Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, seventy seven,
Speaker 1: Episode one of Jared Day's Eye production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. Uh. It's Monday, March twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien ak. Straight up, now, Jamie,
Speaker 1: Did Samantha really ship on a sidewalk? Oh? No, No,
Speaker 1: did her but do a ship and run? Straight up? Now?
Speaker 1: Tell me? Did her booty really duke on the sidewalk? Oh? Oh,
Speaker 1: guess I'll dig in and have some fun. Uh that
Speaker 1: is courtesy Christie. I'm a Gucci mane uh uh. In
Speaker 1: reference to uh season finale, in which we discussed the
Speaker 1: I guess urban legend, I wasn't even able to find
Speaker 1: any evidence of it being an urban legend that Kim
Speaker 1: Cotrell took a poop on a sidewalk. Our has already
Speaker 1: noted that our show has become just a lot of
Speaker 1: poop talk with disappointment, with disappointment in her eyes. I
Speaker 1: mean it was just she was just doing thumbs down,
Speaker 1: gesturing like, no, it wasn't the eyes. It was a
Speaker 1: full pretty much, And I think that could be expressed
Speaker 1: was beings. It's good because I'm gonna critique someone else's
Speaker 1: musical performance later, so I thought i'd get that out
Speaker 1: of the way up top show show the bar that
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always
Speaker 1: by my co host Mr Miles Grass Miles and you
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien a holds the A two, podding down the
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Speaker 1: One for the money and uh two for the pod.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to thank Skippy all the discord
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Speaker 1: people putting work in on the discord with the ak
Speaker 1: it is really beautiful to see. That's one of those
Speaker 1: songs where Andre is such a good rapper. He's just
Speaker 1: like rapping about whatever. He's like telling a story about
Speaker 1: somebody like asking him a question at the mall or
Speaker 1: something like. He makes it sound so fucking good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's one of the great doing He's like appled up
Speaker 1: to a pet boys with a question and I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: I'm ready for this Andre verse. Yes, uh, we are
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant,
Speaker 1: the talent take Catherine Spire here. I am thanks for
Speaker 1: having me. Hey, hey, hey, yeah I been a while.
Speaker 1: What's new. Yeah, I've been in Utah for three months okay, yeah, um,
Speaker 1: just my parents live here. So I kind of came out,
Speaker 1: um hung out, was being a little bit athletic, and
Speaker 1: then two weeks ago I was it's skiing like a
Speaker 1: real badass, flung myself backward, bruised my tailbone. Have been
Speaker 1: just lying down on my stomach ever since then. So
Speaker 1: that's my spring. What is skate skiing? Okay, so you
Speaker 1: can imagine cross country skiing now sort of imagine that
Speaker 1: instead of going straightforward with the skis, you're kind of
Speaker 1: doing like a rollerblading motion. Yeah. Oh so you're not
Speaker 1: on snow, No you are, okay, yeah, like skis, but
Speaker 1: like imagine if you were had rollerblades, but in some
Speaker 1: wheels they had skis, Oh, but they're that length basically, Wait,
Speaker 1: so what's the difference in like if you're on flat
Speaker 1: land and you're skiing and you kind of use a
Speaker 1: skating motion to like kind of cruise around, like you know,
Speaker 1: you kind of always like on skis you kind of
Speaker 1: do that, so I'm trying to figure out what's the difference.
Speaker 1: So they just on skate skiing. They've made the skis
Speaker 1: like a quarter of the width of regular skis, so
Speaker 1: they just made it more dangerous. That's actually what I'm
Speaker 1: always looking for in my skis. There's actually more danger
Speaker 1: and a higher degree of difficulty. So I'm glad told
Speaker 1: me about that. And then they got me good and
Speaker 1: you busting your tailbone like Steph curry out here. Um,
Speaker 1: so I must not have broken it, because apparently if
Speaker 1: you break it takes a year to heal. And I
Speaker 1: already feel better, but that freaks me out. If I
Speaker 1: just bruised my tailbone, and that was the worst pain
Speaker 1: in my life. Imagine breaking your tailbone. I can't. I
Speaker 1: was actually crying, which I was thinking, like I've broken
Speaker 1: my ankle. I didn't cry then, Like this made me weep.
Speaker 1: It was terrible. I don't recommend it. It's wild, how
Speaker 1: because so much can pass through your tailbone, like up
Speaker 1: your spine too, you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 1: such a Yeah, it's something we got to look out for.
Speaker 1: Those ties we do. Because I remember high school football,
Speaker 1: like I remember freshman year all like, I didn't play
Speaker 1: football because I wanted a summer. So when my friends
Speaker 1: are like, yeah week blah, I was like, yeah, what's
Speaker 1: that weird butt pad you got? It's for your tobone.
Speaker 1: You can get a concussion if you're flowing your toebone.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well, I'm spoken weed concussion through or
Speaker 1: tailbone if you come straight down on that ship. At
Speaker 1: least that was the urban legend that had all the guys.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I looked it up a little bit,
Speaker 1: and all the doctors are like, remember, your tailbone is
Speaker 1: part of your spine, so it's like funny to joke
Speaker 1: about breaking your butt, which it is, like, I find
Speaker 1: the humor in that. It could go wrong for sure.
Speaker 1: I actually had already bought rollerblades for the summer, and
Speaker 1: then I went online and like found like a roller
Speaker 1: derby warehouse and bought padded shorts because I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: too afraid to do anything without tailbone coverage. It's like
Speaker 1: hockey pants and ship Yeah yep. Yeah. Just in general,
Speaker 1: I tend to not I I don't suspect football players
Speaker 1: of being too cautious about concussions or that's why by
Speaker 1: the time you see college football, there's no one has
Speaker 1: that equipment anymore. Like it's a very at that point,
Speaker 1: you like, I've already had three going in here. Come on,
Speaker 1: all right, Katherine, we're going to get to know you
Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna
Speaker 1: tell our listeners a couple of the thing things we're
Speaker 1: talking about. Philipbuster talk is evolving. Uh, we're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about that. We're gonna talk about Sharon Osborne. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about more Game of Thrones prequel revelation. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about Chipotle having a case of dia and it's
Speaker 1: apparently good, like you up, yeah, no, no, I just
Speaker 1: I feel like the publix reception of Chipotle is generally, uh,
Speaker 1: not as positive as mine is personally, So it's good.
Speaker 1: It's good to hear that people are just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is great, well done. Coming after leave Chippotle alone,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about Addison Ray just I'm gonna do some
Speaker 1: confusion trolling, as it was termed before we start recording. Uh,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about I'm just explaining this to me and
Speaker 1: why you like, I'm just it's not bad. Yeah. We'll
Speaker 1: talk about n f T s all of that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Catherine, we like to ask our guests, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history that is revealing about
Speaker 1: what you're up to? Just a lot of like, what's
Speaker 1: the deal with sub stack? Is sub stack transphobic? So
Speaker 1: do you guys know what sub stack is? It's a
Speaker 1: newsletter platform, um, And it hasn't been around that long,
Speaker 1: and it was supposed to be like this great new
Speaker 1: hope for journalists because it's like you can do your
Speaker 1: own thing, you can make your own money, And everyone
Speaker 1: including me, is like, yeah, newslettering, that seems cool. But
Speaker 1: then it turns out that they've been giving money to
Speaker 1: certain writers, writers who tend to be white men, who
Speaker 1: already have a platform, and they're like, no, we're we
Speaker 1: it's private. If people want to talk about us giving
Speaker 1: them money, they can, but it's not up to us.
Speaker 1: It's private. Um. So they're doing that thing where they're
Speaker 1: saying that they're they don't have an editorial platform though,
Speaker 1: like this is an editorial This is just like the
Speaker 1: way that you get your news letter out there. But
Speaker 1: then they pay certain people to use the platform. So
Speaker 1: I would argue that they do have an editorial point
Speaker 1: of view. I mean, and a lot of people have
Speaker 1: been So I have my newsletter on it, and they're
Speaker 1: like paying people to say transphobic stuff. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: other companies are doing well essentially. I mean, if they're
Speaker 1: paying someone who says transphobic stuff, then they're paying someone stuff, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and not that my newsletter makes This is not going
Speaker 1: to change my lifestyle if I don't have a newsletter
Speaker 1: for a while. But it's just I hate how everything like, um,
Speaker 1: what's that thing, the milkshake duck? Like you can milkshake
Speaker 1: duck anything. Eventually everything's bad. Everything turns out to be evil.
Speaker 1: What's milkshake duck? Yeah? I don't know what you're talking? Okay,
Speaker 1: So it comes from this meme Oh gosh. Now I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to explain it well, but it's
Speaker 1: comes from meme culture essentially, where like you find out
Speaker 1: that something is or you think that something's really cool, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: the framing of it, yeah, where you see something and
Speaker 1: then you expand the image and you're like, wait, like
Speaker 1: this in this image that milkshakes drinking a duck. Zoom out,
Speaker 1: it has a not a swastika arm band, on its
Speaker 1: foot and you're like yes. So it's like, I mean maybe,
Speaker 1: and maybe that would happen to all of us. Maybe
Speaker 1: we should all get offline before we get milkshake ducks
Speaker 1: because none of us are perfect. So that's what I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about as a first while member of the media
Speaker 1: these days. All right, now, explain to me what is
Speaker 1: a meme? Yeah, just choking? Oh my god, Hey, what's
Speaker 1: Chewbacca mask Lady's people explain memes to me? Like when
Speaker 1: I remember when Cropton was describing TikTok's I think was
Speaker 1: one of my favorite. It's like at this song where
Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, no, no, what is something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? Okay? Um, So this is in my
Speaker 1: own personal opinion, and I'm not a c p A
Speaker 1: or a lawyer, but I think it's overrated. To be
Speaker 1: afraid of the I r S. I think you can
Speaker 1: really like freak out and they are afraid of being audited,
Speaker 1: even if they aren't criminals, and they're afraid that if
Speaker 1: you do do a criminal activity, you will definitely get arrested.
Speaker 1: So from my personal experience, i RS I think I
Speaker 1: was thinking about that. He must have just like been like, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't cheat on my taxes. No, I didn't. Because
Speaker 1: if you're like, yeah, I did, they're like, okay, we're
Speaker 1: setting up a payment plan. My dad's second wife, when
Speaker 1: they were still married, she did do a mouthfeasance, and
Speaker 1: because they're married, he signed all the tax paperwork. And
Speaker 1: then the I R S found out and they were like, hey,
Speaker 1: come on, and they were like, we know, and so
Speaker 1: they put them on a payment plan um just to
Speaker 1: pay off and that's it. And then when my dad died,
Speaker 1: I knew he hadn't finished paying it off because he
Speaker 1: was homeless, so of course he didn't. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: called the I R S and I said, hey, my
Speaker 1: dad died ned money. And the woman said did he
Speaker 1: have a wife And I said no, and she said
Speaker 1: did he have an estate? And I said ha ha
Speaker 1: ha no, and she said, okay, his debt is a
Speaker 1: race and that's it. Like everyone thinks that you're gonna
Speaker 1: if you die with that, you're your people are going
Speaker 1: to have to pay for it. No, so again only
Speaker 1: in my personal experiences, like, but if you funk up
Speaker 1: your taxes, just own up to it and you're going
Speaker 1: to be fine. And the I R S people the
Speaker 1: customer service at the I R. S is actually really nice,
Speaker 1: just takes a while to get ahold of him if
Speaker 1: you want to get him on the phone. Sometimes I've
Speaker 1: as somebody who's yeah, I've had a few run ins
Speaker 1: with the revenue service, and I had the same evolution
Speaker 1: to where I was like, oh, man, like like I
Speaker 1: want to sweep stakes years ago, like the first time
Speaker 1: ever in my life, and like yeah, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it was like a contest but like we like but
Speaker 1: it had a prize and ship and like my band won,
Speaker 1: and like so my dumbass was on the tax paperwork.
Speaker 1: So suddenly I'm getting all these like materials and other
Speaker 1: things that I didn't know. You know, this is the
Speaker 1: time I broke his funk. I don't know how taxes works.
Speaker 1: I was like I don't know, Yeah, just fucking keep it,
Speaker 1: and they're like yeah, motherfucker. He was like eight grand
Speaker 1: I'm like and for the longest time, I thought they
Speaker 1: were going to come to my house, kick the door now,
Speaker 1: like arrest my mom, like set my dog on fire,
Speaker 1: and like be like like what the gonna do until
Speaker 1: I talked to my dad, who was an adult who
Speaker 1: has been through and he's like, just talk to them,
Speaker 1: you fucking idiot, Like, this is not Why do you
Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna happen. I don't know. Wesley Snipes
Speaker 1: went to jail and he's like he was so flagrant
Speaker 1: with it, and I was like, right, okay, right, I
Speaker 1: think I think that ultimately the iris just wants their
Speaker 1: money more than they want to finish you, which is
Speaker 1: so Unamerican, but yeah, they really just want the money.
Speaker 1: Because you can be like we owe this much and
Speaker 1: like can I give you fifty bucks a month? And yeah, yeah, fine, fine, fine,
Speaker 1: I take care man, cat you catch you later out there,
Speaker 1: and you're like, you have motherfucker's knocking on my door
Speaker 1: dropping off like six pound envelopes and ship Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then as soon as you agree to your ten
Speaker 1: dollar a month payment plan, they're like, at the very least,
Speaker 1: just talk to a tax prepared because that was the
Speaker 1: like after my dad and then talking to someone they're
Speaker 1: like okay, Like and you can feel off the energy
Speaker 1: from an accountant when you tell them the situation. They're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so we'll do this, and you're like, wait, I don't
Speaker 1: have to climb a mountain and give a blood offering
Speaker 1: to some kind of deity. No, okay, that's totally like
Speaker 1: when I'm in an airplane and there's turbulence, I immediately
Speaker 1: look for the flight attendants and every time they're just
Speaker 1: like chilling, and I'm like, okay, good. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: my fear comes from a Seinfeld episode where he was audited.
Speaker 1: Did that happen? And he had to find all the
Speaker 1: receipts that he didn't have and yeah yeah, Also, yeah,
Speaker 1: my dad was audited too. I remember as a kid,
Speaker 1: and it was like I remember being too young. I
Speaker 1: remember the word and how stressed my dad was and
Speaker 1: him like looking through boxes and I don't want that.
Speaker 1: But now everything is digital, like it's such a different
Speaker 1: time now. Yeah, I can summon bank records like that,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. I've heard that like part of if you're
Speaker 1: paying like a private accountant, not like H and R Block,
Speaker 1: but if you're paying big bucks for an accountant kind
Speaker 1: of what you're paying for his protection and not having
Speaker 1: to deal. Yeah, because if they're the ones who did
Speaker 1: your taxes, virus will come to them first. All that
Speaker 1: you say they're they're setting up the taxes codes and
Speaker 1: plans to be so fucking confusing that we can't just
Speaker 1: do it. Are like so many other countries have way
Speaker 1: better processes for this kind of ship, where they're actually
Speaker 1: the ones keeping tabs and be like, okay, here's your bill,
Speaker 1: here's your bill. Yeah, counting on people to like funk
Speaker 1: up and not be able to get the maximum you know,
Speaker 1: return or what they're owed. So it's just but what
Speaker 1: if the restaurant made you figure out the market price
Speaker 1: for like fish that day? We're like, all right, so
Speaker 1: here are the economic conditions and the fish market out
Speaker 1: of Russia, which is where we imported this from. I
Speaker 1: impoured on my fish from Russia. I want to go
Speaker 1: out to eat. But there's actually a column about that
Speaker 1: very thing in the l A Times. I think it
Speaker 1: came out on Friday by Lucas Kwan Peterson, and it's
Speaker 1: about how we don't understand food costs and we should
Speaker 1: all be paying more money. So we've got a lot
Speaker 1: of topics in there. We're paying for cheap, we're paying
Speaker 1: too too little for food. Yeah yeah, in terms of
Speaker 1: like how it how the cost bears out for like
Speaker 1: the restaurant itself to run as a business, or like
Speaker 1: what the actual costs are for the for the product,
Speaker 1: well for the restaurants itself, and then you know, further
Speaker 1: down the supply chain the farms and processors all that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. Yeah, and finally, what is something that
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? I think stamp collecting is underrated,
Speaker 1: especially when you weapon off your stamps. Stamps, what what
Speaker 1: does that even mean? Okay, so my landlord um still
Speaker 1: takes paper checks, and so when I send them in,
Speaker 1: I put a stamp of a clown on the fuck
Speaker 1: you landlord, get your fuck you landlord forever stamps. That
Speaker 1: would actually be dope. Yeah. Yeah, they should just put
Speaker 1: slogans on them for sure. Yeah, if they're not, like
Speaker 1: do you know wildly you're like problematic or racist or
Speaker 1: whatever phobic, Like you should be able to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: clown ass, yes, clears your money. Chump stamps I think
Speaker 1: would be good. I would buy so many rolls of
Speaker 1: those middle finger yes, oh ship, that would be a great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just a middle finger like that would be iconic. Everybody
Speaker 1: would use that. Or side business, you just start a
Speaker 1: paper cope panny that you make like bespoke envelopes to
Speaker 1: send your bills like in that like the asshole each ship,
Speaker 1: you greedy motherfucker. Hope this passive income helps you on
Speaker 1: your course to whatever the funk it is you do
Speaker 1: in that unit that you barely go into that just
Speaker 1: smells like old pottery ship in there. Whatever. Kind of
Speaker 1: a long winded thing, but took my idea and really
Speaker 1: like leveled it up a lot. That's what it's like, Nathan,
Speaker 1: for you for petty ideas. Now I have to ask
Speaker 1: the question, like what when our n f T is
Speaker 1: going to get in the game with the stamp collectors. Guys, wait,
Speaker 1: are you? Are you actually collecting stamps though actually I
Speaker 1: kind of am. Yeah, Like there's a lot of really
Speaker 1: pretty ones. For the past couple of years they've been
Speaker 1: doing gorgeous lunar New Year stamps and then they have
Speaker 1: some that when you were children, did you guys read
Speaker 1: the book The Snowy Day the Little Kid, Just yeah,
Speaker 1: walking through the snow and it's a lot of orange colors. Um,
Speaker 1: they have Snowy Day stay amps now and like it
Speaker 1: kind of makes me cry. So I bought those, of course,
Speaker 1: and Marvin Gay stamps because he's cool, you know, and
Speaker 1: then clown stamps as for a Jack Keats that is
Speaker 1: on my kid's bookshelf right now, And uh, it's never
Speaker 1: not heartbreaking to me when he brings the snowballs in
Speaker 1: in his pocket and then he's like, what what happened?
Speaker 1: Where they go? And why are my pockets wet? Oh?
Speaker 1: I know it's a good book. I just it. Looking
Speaker 1: at this cover, it reminds me of like that metal,
Speaker 1: that Caldecott metal, like that would be on kids books.
Speaker 1: I just had a very visceral response to seeing that
Speaker 1: on a cover, because like, for a while I remember
Speaker 1: that was like that the way the parents would be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's probably good enough to totally, that's probably that will
Speaker 1: do do that that gold or all right, I don't
Speaker 1: get it, don't get it, don't get it. You might
Speaker 1: they might end up not smart. My kid was reared
Speaker 1: on purely Caldecott metal quality works. Yeah it's not I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's better, but all right, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back and we're back.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of like something that is
Speaker 1: equivalent of like Caldecott metal, and the only thing I
Speaker 1: can think of is like the time when I was
Speaker 1: like in middle school, and uh, like the parental advisory
Speaker 1: sticker was like if an album didn't have that, I
Speaker 1: like wasn't with it? Yea, it was like this sucks.
Speaker 1: Why Yeah, what is do we have any I guess
Speaker 1: maybe like a Twitter verified check? Right? Yeah, people that
Speaker 1: are like oh cool and just Twitter response not thinking
Speaker 1: that must must mean famous. Yeah, you're right, and it
Speaker 1: makes me think about shifting standards. Yeah, exactly right. Where
Speaker 1: now it's like, well, is the is the influencer who
Speaker 1: wrote this children's book on black and white race relations?
Speaker 1: Who is a white man? Does heve Twitter verified? Because
Speaker 1: that's what matters to me about this book, not the
Speaker 1: So no further questions. Okay, they are great called called
Speaker 1: let's cancel, cancel culture. Hold on made a second. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's talk filibuster because this conversation is ongoing. It's vital,
Speaker 1: you know, because the whole thing, the whole rub of
Speaker 1: the this administration is Hey, I'm gonna do all this ship, y'all,
Speaker 1: and this ship will get done it. Then there's the filibuster,
Speaker 1: and you have an entire party who's not willing to
Speaker 1: do anything that would benefit anyone except for like higher
Speaker 1: earners in the form of tax cuts. So yeah, in
Speaker 1: the last week things have changed. We talked about how
Speaker 1: Biden has started to soften and he said he's open now.
Speaker 1: Before he said like, I don't think it's necessary. Now
Speaker 1: he said he's open to hearing, you know, ways to
Speaker 1: amend it. Not completely obliterated. Joe Mansion is still aggro,
Speaker 1: but still slightly more open. And Martin Heinrich from New
Speaker 1: Mexico sentator over there, he's down now. He's like, now
Speaker 1: we need to get rid of this ship, like more
Speaker 1: people and some people are coming up like, now we
Speaker 1: gotta we need to fucking end this thing, because you know,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people realize mid terms is
Speaker 1: a real thing and you need people to be enthusiastic
Speaker 1: to go out to vote. Um and if you promise
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff and deliver nonsense, then they're not
Speaker 1: going to be motivated. So Jeff Merkley from Oregon saying
Speaker 1: his whole idea around the filibusters like we have to
Speaker 1: do this ship and his quote unquote, our base is going,
Speaker 1: what a bunch of idiots you are? You campaigned on
Speaker 1: this stuff and you're going to let the Republicans have
Speaker 1: a simple majority pathway well, you just say, well, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but we can't get anything done because McConnell's blocking us.
Speaker 1: They expect us to have They expect us to have
Speaker 1: the same guts to get things done that the Republicans
Speaker 1: had to get their agenda done. Yep, exactly, that's right.
Speaker 1: Everyone is saying, what a bunch of idiots you are.
Speaker 1: That's so crazy to have a politician talking like a
Speaker 1: real person like that. What's going on. He's always like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's pretty outspoken, but yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: think he has to frame it in that way because
Speaker 1: rather than getting caught up on the decorum, it's like, god, no,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be repercussions in the mid terms for not delivering.
Speaker 1: That's it's that simple. It's just purely like they're not
Speaker 1: gonna want to come out because they're gonna think, uh,
Speaker 1: they've just the party's completely taken advantage of their support,
Speaker 1: which they pretty much have been doing for a long
Speaker 1: time now. But here's a moment where you think like
Speaker 1: there's are enough people on the right side of things
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, let's push forward to something aggressive.
Speaker 1: Is the is the thing that's kind of changing their
Speaker 1: tune because it's usually in politics, like something needs to happen.
Speaker 1: There needs to be like pulling, There needs to be
Speaker 1: something that you know, proves to them from a self
Speaker 1: interested perspective that like this isn't their best interest? Is
Speaker 1: it just they're waking up? Is it that the Republicans
Speaker 1: are so aggressively pursuing voter suppression? Like I think it's
Speaker 1: all those things because on one level, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: Biden can't get his agenda done. That's not good for
Speaker 1: him at all, and he knows that, like as much
Speaker 1: as he wants to think maybe there's a bipartisan way
Speaker 1: around it to not get anything done, is it was
Speaker 1: not going to look good for the party in general.
Speaker 1: Then there's all the voter suppression that's happening, which, if
Speaker 1: it happens, is setting up a game, a rigged game,
Speaker 1: in which it would be very hard for Democrats to
Speaker 1: get reelected even if they were deliver because of how
Speaker 1: rampant the voter suppression is. So it really does behoove
Speaker 1: them to be like, yeah, we need to start getting
Speaker 1: we need to make these reforms real, like nip this
Speaker 1: in the bud, because if we have fair elections, chances
Speaker 1: are we're going to do a lot better than Fuccory
Speaker 1: induced elections. And you know, Biden met with Stacy Abrams
Speaker 1: over the weekend where I'm sure the urgency of passing
Speaker 1: voter reforms was discussed, and there's no way you can't
Speaker 1: link that to filibuster talk, because she's been very vocal
Speaker 1: about do not let this decorum, this idea of like
Speaker 1: not changing the rules of the Senate get in the
Speaker 1: way of like obliterating whatever this form of democracy we
Speaker 1: have is here. And McConnell is still pump faking. It's
Speaker 1: all pump faking. He's heavy, heavy with it. Uh he's not.
Speaker 1: He's not out here shooting. He's just he just knows that, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, his whole tactic is, well, then I will
Speaker 1: burn this mother down and then it will be concealed
Speaker 1: carry and no sanctuary cities and no abortions, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, like all the legislation that they
Speaker 1: would want to pass eventually just lead to Republican losses
Speaker 1: because everything is massively unpopular, Like they're not really they're
Speaker 1: not pushing for things that have like six support, like
Speaker 1: people who want to end up like sanctuary cities pulls low.
Speaker 1: So now you're gonna put other Republicans at risk and
Speaker 1: other elections. So I think he knows too. All he
Speaker 1: can do is be like, don't do it, don't do it,
Speaker 1: because their whole thing is it's just guns, abortion defunding
Speaker 1: and it's nothing new. And I think when they also
Speaker 1: see how you know, seventy of Americans supported the stimulus package,
Speaker 1: that's that looks the Democrats are like, oh shit, maybe
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have listened to the Republicans and watered this down.
Speaker 1: And Republicans are like a funk, people like help. So
Speaker 1: I feel like the Republicans know what they're doing though, right,
Speaker 1: Like that's the I think that's the thing. Like when
Speaker 1: you compare the like Mark luis doing when he was like,
Speaker 1: I mean we should be as at least as aggressive
Speaker 1: as them, Like the Republicans from step one are strategizing
Speaker 1: as we are a insurgent party representing a minority viewpoint
Speaker 1: that is, you know, hateful, and like we have to
Speaker 1: sneak it through and use all these tricks and diplomacy
Speaker 1: and then lying and you know, all this ship to
Speaker 1: get things done, whereas the Democrats, I don't know I
Speaker 1: feel like they don't have the courage of their convictions.
Speaker 1: Oh exactly. I think the Republicans are much more honest
Speaker 1: with themselves about the evil that they want to do
Speaker 1: from the jump, where sometimes with the Democrats, I feel
Speaker 1: like they like are a month behind on Twitter or
Speaker 1: something because they're like, way after the people have spoken,
Speaker 1: they'll be like, hey, oh shoot, oh shoot, we might
Speaker 1: lose the Georgia midterms if we don't do what we
Speaker 1: promised multiple times we would do. Gosh darn it, right.
Speaker 1: I think that's why, you know, they know though, because
Speaker 1: what they want it doesn't pull well. They know that,
Speaker 1: Like they know because we've seen this before. They tried
Speaker 1: to gut Medicare for all, uh and or not Medicare
Speaker 1: for all, but like Obamacare and things like that, and
Speaker 1: there was massive pushback and they retreated, you know, and
Speaker 1: they've tried or like other senators you know, you have
Speaker 1: John McCain be like, oh ship, I can't get down
Speaker 1: with this. Like a lot of pressures is created when
Speaker 1: they try for these things. Not to say that they
Speaker 1: are not able to do them, but that's why mostly
Speaker 1: they like to go for this, you know, stacked the pack,
Speaker 1: the courts and do tax cuts, because that isn't stuff
Speaker 1: that requires a lot like you can just do that
Speaker 1: along party lines and just focusing on like culture war
Speaker 1: things because with like the things that the Democrats are
Speaker 1: actually going after, like truly they're looking for like substantive change,
Speaker 1: which would be harder for Republicans to reverse if they
Speaker 1: if they pass these laws. It's one thing to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: well fund planned parenthood again when we get the Senate
Speaker 1: or the White House or will we'll just take that
Speaker 1: other thing way. So they're playing very different games, and
Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day they know
Speaker 1: what they're doing. But it's a terrible hand they're playing
Speaker 1: right now, and it's so transparently bad that we know,
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell, this is not like, Okay, there's nothing new
Speaker 1: about what you're saying. You try this ship all the
Speaker 1: time without anyone supporting you, and then on the other
Speaker 1: side of it, you have like there's talks now of
Speaker 1: like a group of senators who are Republicans that are
Speaker 1: willing to work in a bipartisan manner. But I don't
Speaker 1: think they're I think that's just some good cop bad
Speaker 1: cops shit. They're still at the same thing, and like
Speaker 1: by offering a group of you know, senators who are
Speaker 1: Republicans that are willing to work, that offers them a
Speaker 1: really easy way to start just deluding it, watering it down,
Speaker 1: arguing about it, versus being like, not funck y'all, you've
Speaker 1: we've we've seen your Your mask is gone, sir. There's
Speaker 1: no mask anymore at this point, and we're not doing
Speaker 1: business with radioactive waste, even though some of it is
Speaker 1: in our own party too. I feel like you're a
Speaker 1: lot more confident um in that Republicans will end up
Speaker 1: flailing than I am. I don't know. I just feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: not that they're gonna flail or whatever, but it's not
Speaker 1: a good It doesn't like in the long term, it
Speaker 1: will not play out. I don't think the same way.
Speaker 1: Like that's why they have to go with such aggressive
Speaker 1: draconian measures that are like so I think abrupt that
Speaker 1: it starts becoming national news very quickly, which is only
Speaker 1: the only reason I think the Democrats now are like, oh, wait,
Speaker 1: how many states are trying to do things that could
Speaker 1: affect us? Huh oh right, that so now we have
Speaker 1: to do something. But yeah, I mean I think with
Speaker 1: all that said, I think the Democrats are more than
Speaker 1: willing to just fall into this fucking stupid bipartisan dance
Speaker 1: where they can everyone can pat themselves on the back,
Speaker 1: act like they did something, didn't do anything, and everybody
Speaker 1: gets to go home and get reelected. That seems more
Speaker 1: likely to me just in general, because that's the that's
Speaker 1: the pace of which, like America changes, it's glacial, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think part of the problem is the
Speaker 1: Democrats are also trying to please the donors and the
Speaker 1: donor class as well as the people, whereas you know,
Speaker 1: the Republican party line, they can openly be trying to
Speaker 1: please the donor class and that will please a lot
Speaker 1: of the same people, or at least they can distract
Speaker 1: them with just It just seems like even though the
Speaker 1: Republicans have a smaller group, like in some ways, they're
Speaker 1: strategically better set up too aggressively pursue their hate. I
Speaker 1: think I think the difference is they're aware of the
Speaker 1: existential threat that faces their party, so they know they
Speaker 1: have to slam the gas. There's no way you can't.
Speaker 1: They can't coast to the end, like it's their last
Speaker 1: hand to play is just the most aggressive voter suppression
Speaker 1: you've ever seen. Um and to try and just like
Speaker 1: lock up the way this country is able to vote
Speaker 1: to stay, just to keep onto that power. There's no like.
Speaker 1: That's why I think the difference the democracts like I
Speaker 1: don't know, like maybe this will go on. They're not there.
Speaker 1: They don't realize that the people themselves are facing existential
Speaker 1: threats and are looking for that same energy from politicians.
Speaker 1: Right now, Democrats do coast, yeah, just like it's all good,
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out. And because I think they're living
Speaker 1: like they think everyone is, like living in two thousand,
Speaker 1: like a twelve or something like that, like yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's fine, it's not that bad. Like the
Speaker 1: pandemic like it was wasn't that bad. I only know
Speaker 1: three people that passed away. So yeah, just a lot
Speaker 1: of I think, just different levels of perception and different
Speaker 1: stakes for different parties. But to everyone's point, the reason
Speaker 1: they are so aggressive is because they know like they
Speaker 1: can't half step. They're just ghoulish ship because if if
Speaker 1: they do evil and slow motion, it allows people to
Speaker 1: sort of like catch on the way, hold on, that's evil. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's talk Sharon Osborne. She other victim. Yeah, you know, poor,
Speaker 1: poor some out for Sharon Osborne who evoked the spell
Speaker 1: of cancel culture by speaking just being like proudly, loudly ignorant,
Speaker 1: paping for a racist that'll usually pull up the councel
Speaker 1: bus to your party. And then the other thing is
Speaker 1: like then when they when people show up and say, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: what the funk was that? That's when you have to
Speaker 1: apologize correctly to try and move forward as a person.
Speaker 1: But that apology wasn't that great and didn't show much
Speaker 1: growth or a willingness to see a new perspective. So
Speaker 1: things are getting rocky. And now there's like talk that
Speaker 1: she's gonna walk from that show that people don't watch
Speaker 1: and essentially demanding money on the way out. So this
Speaker 1: is from paid six quote. The network will have to
Speaker 1: pay her a sizeable settlement to keep her quiet after this,
Speaker 1: the source set she could write a book, She would
Speaker 1: do a world of interviews. She knows where all the
Speaker 1: bodies are buried. What the the Trump administration? It's probably
Speaker 1: just severance payment or yeah, I don't think well it
Speaker 1: takes yeah exactly exactly. She kind of makes me think of.
Speaker 1: I feel like this is a thing that sometimes happens
Speaker 1: with specifically reality TV personalities, especially women who get famous
Speaker 1: at first and beloved because they're so outspoken. It kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me of Ninie Leaks from Real Housewives of
Speaker 1: Atlanta and Bethany Frankel from Real Housewives of New York,
Speaker 1: where everyone first season everyone's like, oh, she just says
Speaker 1: what's on her mind. She's a hoop, which was the
Speaker 1: same thing with Sharon Osborne when her show was on,
Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, yeah, everything I say is hilarious
Speaker 1: and good, and then they keep talking. Everyone's like, yeah, oh,
Speaker 1: you didn't realize they were editing that show. That's the difference. Fam.
Speaker 1: We didn't just say hit the switch Sharon and go off, honey.
Speaker 1: Uh no. And that's the thing. I'm curious to know
Speaker 1: what the like this weird bodies are buried thing is
Speaker 1: so sure. But they also go on to say like,
Speaker 1: she's blaming the show runners for like her comments because
Speaker 1: they didn't prepare her, which I think is fair to
Speaker 1: a certain extent. More so that like, if you're running
Speaker 1: a show and it was clear based on the other
Speaker 1: stories that came out about Sharon Osborne how she was
Speaker 1: saying wild racist ship all the time that if one
Speaker 1: of your whole co hosts or hosts is a known
Speaker 1: racist ghoul, maybe don't include them in a nuanced conversation
Speaker 1: around race as a show runner. But that's a very
Speaker 1: good point, like or everybody is so ignorant over there,
Speaker 1: like no, she'll be fine, Like we're all kind of
Speaker 1: in this weird fucking headspace where we don't even see
Speaker 1: the nuance of anything either. And then they're like, oh ship,
Speaker 1: right right, right, that's a hot take. They probably didn't
Speaker 1: know how offensive she was. It takes white people a
Speaker 1: long time. Yeah, I mean an alternate theory would be
Speaker 1: that she's awful to deal with and they just set
Speaker 1: her up for it because they get off the show,
Speaker 1: which I think that is that probably happens behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah more often than people would. You know, you
Speaker 1: can't uh like win the battle of like, well, we're
Speaker 1: just not going to bring her back because there's agents,
Speaker 1: managers and politics, all all sorts of you know, stupid
Speaker 1: bullshit studio politics involved, and so you have to get
Speaker 1: mocka bellion. They just set her up. She pulled up
Speaker 1: to the toll booth and the dude just ducked. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She was like, what's going on with this toll booth?
Speaker 1: And then they came out with the Tommy guns. Look
Speaker 1: at how they massacred my Sharon. Alright, let's talk briefly
Speaker 1: about some Game of Thrones prequel news. I guess just
Speaker 1: a question for everybody, how many to your knowledge Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones like added series have did you know existed? Now?
Speaker 1: If you could say, off top books are like going
Speaker 1: into TV things that were going to become TV. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think generally we like heard of like their gonna
Speaker 1: do something like one of those like Muder like something
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, so there are right now there's three
Speaker 1: like in development, The Long Night, House of the Dragon
Speaker 1: and Tales of Dunk and Egg. That's the one I
Speaker 1: was thinking of, which sounds like a really fun animated
Speaker 1: series about fun. That's the better call Saul of like,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the Dunk and Egg verse is
Speaker 1: quite about. But now they're like adding two more shows
Speaker 1: or no, I'm sorry there for a second, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: three more shows. Oh, thank you, thank you. Nine Voyages
Speaker 1: also known as Sneez Snake, Flea Bottom Uh and ten
Speaker 1: thousand ships. I believe that is c Snake, but I
Speaker 1: wish it were Sneeze Snake because that would be fun.
Speaker 1: There's also talk of a possible animated series Children. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know Catherine Children. I'm protesting in
Speaker 1: the streets. This is like, no, absolutely not for various reasons.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I shouldn't have expected you to know that
Speaker 1: was no. I don't. I'm just saying I'm more than anything.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do some confusion trolling. I'm just confused,
Speaker 1: like what's going on with HBO. Like, I'm sure these
Speaker 1: are probably compelling stories, and I'll probably watch them if
Speaker 1: they're you know, they're budgeted properly and they're not all white,
Speaker 1: but they are, like, I don't it sounds like HBO
Speaker 1: is just like like cannot get past the glory days
Speaker 1: of when the series was on. So like their new
Speaker 1: trick is to just like have a bunch of deluded
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones I p out there to try and
Speaker 1: like cobble together some like Behemoth Vultron ratings thing that
Speaker 1: like gives you the equivalent of But I'm like, can't
Speaker 1: you'll develop new ship like y'all saw McKenzie what they said,
Speaker 1: the industry like will gain money if you if you
Speaker 1: tell diverse stories. You don't want to do that. Fucking
Speaker 1: even jaw Rule figured new songs after Holla, even though
Speaker 1: but yeah, I too, am just asking questions. But I
Speaker 1: thought that, well, maybe now I'm not asking a questions.
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking maybe they're trying to use these new
Speaker 1: series to sort of right the wrongs. Because Game of Thrones,
Speaker 1: the TV show was misogynists, it was racist. It was like,
Speaker 1: actually the sexual violence on it what I thought was
Speaker 1: really awful. Um, and then I thought people hated the
Speaker 1: last season, in the last episode especially, so are they
Speaker 1: like trying to go back in and like be like,
Speaker 1: oh no, we have like all these different character lines
Speaker 1: and stuff, you're gonna love it. No, they're just lazy.
Speaker 1: Never mind, that's so stupid. I think they think they
Speaker 1: smell blood in the water and they're like, yet, money, money, money,
Speaker 1: let's do it. I want people to not watch it.
Speaker 1: I want to make people not watch it, Like, can
Speaker 1: nobody watch it? I think I think people it's like
Speaker 1: just it's just like that weird X you know, like
Speaker 1: where seventy of the memories are like decent it and
Speaker 1: you're like, but you know, what ended for a reason.
Speaker 1: You know, the ship ended for a reason. And as
Speaker 1: much as like there was there was a lot of good,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of off that, Like I'm a different person now,
Speaker 1: Um I'm not the same I wasn't. But with the X,
Speaker 1: I feel like the happy memories float to the top,
Speaker 1: whereas I think all anybody remembers about Game of Thrones
Speaker 1: is that last or like that's all That's what sticks
Speaker 1: with me? Is that what it all depends on who
Speaker 1: broke up with who? You know, that's where that's that's
Speaker 1: how you know which memory is gonna take precedence. Also,
Speaker 1: are we just all being incredibly online people who just
Speaker 1: read what Twitter? What is set on Twitter? But actually,
Speaker 1: the vast majority of people loved the last season. No.
Speaker 1: I mean when you look at the when you look
Speaker 1: at the IMDb scores, it's like for the public, the
Speaker 1: ones that the public is able to vote on, it
Speaker 1: was like universally in the nines, like unprecedentedly hive every
Speaker 1: episode up until like the starting with episode three of
Speaker 1: the last season. It was like down in the sixes,
Speaker 1: Everyone's like what the fuck? Uh? It just it seemed
Speaker 1: like that there was broadly a consensus that the the ending,
Speaker 1: they lost the plot. But to that point, I think
Speaker 1: there are people who are thinking of the sevent the
Speaker 1: good times and are ready for that. What you do
Speaker 1: in text, yeah, I would be like, what am I doing.
Speaker 1: I'm subscribing to HBO Max Honey. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: people are waiting for those texts. But but those texts,
Speaker 1: which will come in the form of trailers, will say
Speaker 1: a lot because I'm curious to know when they start
Speaker 1: trickling out that I think that will really give us
Speaker 1: a true gauge of like how much we're willing to
Speaker 1: go back to wester Rose or if we're just kind
Speaker 1: of like maybe do something like new. I'm more confident
Speaker 1: that I will want to see Avatar six than I
Speaker 1: am that I want to see like any of these
Speaker 1: things or that's but like they seem like they're in
Speaker 1: the same family of things that I can't imagine giving
Speaker 1: a shit about in the future that people will probably
Speaker 1: just because of the sheer amount of money and talent
Speaker 1: and energy putting into it. It's like, well, I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess we're watching this ship or or you know,
Speaker 1: could be one of those things are like, look, plenty
Speaker 1: of things you want to development and go out of development.
Speaker 1: So in the process they may they may realize that
Speaker 1: this isn't the way. But I don't know, especially shows
Speaker 1: from HBO that are somehow tied to Game of Thrones
Speaker 1: such as Confederate or Confederate uh from from Benny off Ice? Yes,
Speaker 1: what if? Like no, not what? Just what if? Shut up?
Speaker 1: What if? I fuck you up about that? All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and let's talk really briefly. Are you
Speaker 1: guys Casada fans like good sometimes Katherine is a food expert, writer, journalist,
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Speaker 1: condiments that they're giving you in this like it looks
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Speaker 1: don't feel like cooking. All right, let's can we talk
Speaker 1: about Addison Ray real quick? Yes? I love I love
Speaker 1: Addison big fan. Yeah, I know you've been telling me.
Speaker 1: You've been saying, there's this artist that I really want
Speaker 1: you to check out for a long time now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was saying, like, forget Aretha Franklin, forget Billie Holiday,
Speaker 1: forget Beyonce. It's all about this Addison Ray character. I
Speaker 1: mean really something else, really something, And by that, by that,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know who the funk this person
Speaker 1: is or what they're doing, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is dancing. But it's also a great mirror to
Speaker 1: know how old I am. Yeah, exactly. This is a
Speaker 1: Sophie special where uh what one of our youngest EPs
Speaker 1: sent it to the thread and was like, I request
Speaker 1: you cover this on Daily Zeit guys. And I watched
Speaker 1: the video and was just kind of confused. Like even
Speaker 1: Joel was like, wait, is this the new Friday? Like
Speaker 1: is this a joke where you like laugh at the
Speaker 1: person but like they're not in on the joke? Uh?
Speaker 1: Or and uh, I'm still not sure right because so
Speaker 1: her TikTok, she's the second most followed person on TikTok.
Speaker 1: Her TikTok's are her doing dances and she like when
Speaker 1: she's doing a dance right in front of her phone
Speaker 1: and that's all she's doing, and like they're all like
Speaker 1: ten seconds, and she screws up halfway through them, like
Speaker 1: makes a funny face, and I I was like, ah, my dad,
Speaker 1: And then that's the end of it, and that's how
Speaker 1: all of them end. And then so her this music
Speaker 1: video is just a straight up like influenced by you know,
Speaker 1: like classic like j Lo Britney spears like music videos
Speaker 1: with like change of wardrobe every two seconds. Uh. Backup
Speaker 1: dancers that she's dancing with, you know, they're clearly hired
Speaker 1: a choreographer, but she looks just like so out of
Speaker 1: her element, the faces she's making and the like how
Speaker 1: bad she looks when she's dancing on the video make
Speaker 1: it seem like made me suspect it was a really
Speaker 1: nuanced confusion form. Now I'm just confused because I'm just
Speaker 1: it's doing numbers. It doesn't numbers um And just as
Speaker 1: somebody who likes dance dancing and those choreographers uh and
Speaker 1: knows that industry, you know, she should have done the
Speaker 1: thing where like don't put don't put dancers around you
Speaker 1: who are killing the choreo like that that that enhances
Speaker 1: your lack of being on beat and you know, hitting,
Speaker 1: hitting the fucking counts. But I don't know, it's just
Speaker 1: like I'm old. And that's when I realized, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know she was. I know this is what
Speaker 1: kids like. I'm old too, but I it used to
Speaker 1: be a girl. And her appeal actually reminds me a
Speaker 1: lot of how Britney spears, How Britney spears appeal to girls,
Speaker 1: Like she can kind of ends right right right right,
Speaker 1: She definitely has flat abs, but like she's cute, right yeah,
Speaker 1: but like Brittney, Yeah, do you do you agree though
Speaker 1: that this that Addison Ray is like, not like, she's
Speaker 1: more awkward. I think a passable professional purpose looks very
Speaker 1: very comfortable on campus. I was shocked to find out
Speaker 1: that this person is on camera for a living on
Speaker 1: phone Yeah cameras. But yeah, but well, actually, did you
Speaker 1: know she got an actual record deal? Yeah, exactly. This
Speaker 1: this song is produced by like famous like producers who
Speaker 1: work with like Justin Bieber and yeah, but sometimes you
Speaker 1: just want to pay I mean, you know, but she's um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I actually thought she was sixteen
Speaker 1: because I was like, this girl is the most popular
Speaker 1: girl at school, but she's actually a dork. But then
Speaker 1: I found out she was funny, and I was like embarrassing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know cool. I just take all of this with
Speaker 1: a grin of I called Nickelodeon, Nintendo call Yer on
Speaker 1: a call. We were doing a development call and somebody
Speaker 1: mentioned the show a show that was on Nickelodeon. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, isn't that that show from Nintendo? Uh?
Speaker 1: And everyone was like uh, And I just hung up
Speaker 1: and uh tendered my resignation immediately. But yeah, so this
Speaker 1: is all old man ship. But I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: from anybody who irrespective of age. If you've seen music
Speaker 1: videos before, like you have some context for trying to
Speaker 1: understand what genre this is supposed to be um and
Speaker 1: it's it's uh, it has some strange elements to it.
Speaker 1: And I just watch the Addison ray compilation on mute
Speaker 1: and you will and you will start hallucinating. I'm not joking.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm like, what the but you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's it's it's to your point, though, there
Speaker 1: is like an accessibility, like she's democratizing what it means
Speaker 1: to even be a pop star because it's not you're not.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be hitting like Beyonce does on stage.
Speaker 1: You just have a you could do a little body rolling,
Speaker 1: you've got a little bit of a voice or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I think maybe this is just kind of the
Speaker 1: natural evolution as we see like how many apps in
Speaker 1: different like forms of social media are giving people in
Speaker 1: roads to like more traditional careers. I also think there's
Speaker 1: a white girl thing here too, where she's like Jack
Speaker 1: kind of to your point, she's a little bit like
Speaker 1: I'm just goofing, yeah, yeah, pay me money, and it
Speaker 1: works and it's ridiculous. I'm not taking it too seriously,
Speaker 1: So if I messed up, that wasn't the point. Okay,
Speaker 1: exactly right. Yes, she largely has the energy of like,
Speaker 1: uh cheerleader who's like only really like half into into
Speaker 1: the dance choreography and is more just like kind of
Speaker 1: chilling on the sideline. Like that's her. I get. I
Speaker 1: like watching the TikTok compilation, I'm like, I get why
Speaker 1: people are into her as a TikToker, but the music
Speaker 1: videos so as old people were, like, as people who
Speaker 1: remember Hype Williams music videos in the hey day of MTV,
Speaker 1: we cannot say people are doing a disservice to you,
Speaker 1: Addison right with this video. I don't want to see
Speaker 1: the edge of your seamless backdrop in a music video.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't want to. That's just a production
Speaker 1: value thing, and that's me being a snobby production person.
Speaker 1: But look, it's a pandemic. I get it, Like, you
Speaker 1: can't really hit that many locations, so you found one
Speaker 1: studio that was unscrupulous enough to have that many people
Speaker 1: in there without masks on to make your video. So yeah,
Speaker 1: shut up. Oh there was another thing I think her
Speaker 1: TikTok personality. Um, there's the luxury is extremely apparent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's on vacation a lot. Yeah, and when she's doing
Speaker 1: it like at home, you know, just kesh stuff, it's
Speaker 1: like in a million dollars, yes, and like in the
Speaker 1: backseat of an suv and stuff. So I think it's
Speaker 1: aspirational on that. Yeah. Yeah, where it's like studio, like
Speaker 1: her family's studio apartment. I guess that's too real, too real.
Speaker 1: No one wants that we need that escapism because yeah,
Speaker 1: her house is so sparse on my oh you'r y'all
Speaker 1: are drug dealers based on the decor and there, well
Speaker 1: actually is a rented house. I know. This is something
Speaker 1: that yeah, yeah, exactly. Her boyfriend, according to Sophie in
Speaker 1: the research that we did with Sophie just texting us
Speaker 1: like five sentences this morning, her boyfriend was one of
Speaker 1: the people who had the TikTok mansion parties, the pandemic
Speaker 1: that where the city. I just at the power down,
Speaker 1: So you know, it's probably she's probably kicking it in
Speaker 1: the one of those influencer fraternity. When I thought she
Speaker 1: was a child um and she would have other people
Speaker 1: in her little videos, I was like, oh, they're high
Speaker 1: school friends. But then I found out. No, they're all
Speaker 1: famous TikTokers too. Yeah right, they're all making millions. Apologies
Speaker 1: to the younger listeners as we try and understand the
Speaker 1: new culture like our older relatives did before us, and
Speaker 1: you will inevitably one day do the same. Right. Welcome
Speaker 1: to Wash Tom, Welcome to Wash Jurassic Walk. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk really briefly about my favorite new flavor of prangle.
Speaker 1: See guys, I'm not washed. Uh. It's called uh, what's
Speaker 1: the Fringle Crypto crisp, And it's not even a real
Speaker 1: flavor very it's a limited edition r P fucking n
Speaker 1: f T RFP. Uh it's a limited edition and f
Speaker 1: t uh and they're issuing. They issued fifty of them,
Speaker 1: and I guess they're charging a hundred and eighty dollars
Speaker 1: worth of some cryptocurrency for them. Yeah. The main uh
Speaker 1: like energy I've seen posts the n f T thing,
Speaker 1: like I do feel like I get it now I
Speaker 1: understand why, Like what n f T s are. It
Speaker 1: seems like the main energy is rich people being like
Speaker 1: fuck I missed out on it, Like like people who
Speaker 1: run businesses just like scrambling to get to take advantage
Speaker 1: advantage of what they're realizing is free money. Ye Oh,
Speaker 1: this is just I thought that when you ordered it,
Speaker 1: you got the special can of pringles. No, this is
Speaker 1: just a piece of Nope, yeah, got it. Just uh
Speaker 1: that non fungible token. Pizza Hut Canada got in on
Speaker 1: the action, selling eight bits style pizza slices which were
Speaker 1: listed at around seventeen cents. The first slice ended up
Speaker 1: going for almost nine thousand dollars. And the only one
Speaker 1: that seemed like that I understood is Taco Bell sold
Speaker 1: out in just thirty minutes when they tried something similar.
Speaker 1: But those n f t s were attached to real
Speaker 1: world five gift cards. So yeah, is this the like
Speaker 1: digital version of lining up for new sneakers? I mean
Speaker 1: it's it's more like I think it's it's allowing many
Speaker 1: people to fuck with money more than anything, you know,
Speaker 1: because now you can essentially you can launder money that
Speaker 1: you can use like it's like the way art has
Speaker 1: been operated, Like you know, art is like a tax
Speaker 1: saving people. There's the way the fine art world moves.
Speaker 1: It's making it just much easier and I think digitized
Speaker 1: now for people to kind of get away with the
Speaker 1: same things. Of like, oh yeah, let me put this
Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars this gift. Don't ask where it came from.
Speaker 1: I just owned this nine baby, uh, and then we
Speaker 1: can figure out how to you know, convert it from there. Uh.
Speaker 1: I forgot about the crime element, right, It is like
Speaker 1: the sneaker thing in the sense that there is the
Speaker 1: whole appeal is that there's a limited supply, right, Like
Speaker 1: that's so people are paying exorbitant amounts of money because
Speaker 1: there's a limited supply, and like these are That's the
Speaker 1: whole point of these is that by definition there's a
Speaker 1: limited numbering. You can't like replicate them, I mean not
Speaker 1: to mention the absolute just devastating amount of energy uses,
Speaker 1: uh to mind all the crypto So I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's just it's like a perfect like we're finding such
Speaker 1: interesting ways to destroy ourselves constantly, and this is like
Speaker 1: really something. I was like, you've you're attaching value this
Speaker 1: vapor ware that also takes so much computing power that
Speaker 1: it's exacerbating climate the climate crisis. Are a huge contributor
Speaker 1: to it, and like in the face just it's in
Speaker 1: the chase of this ethereal fucking it's just you know
Speaker 1: philosophers when they are able to reignite human life on
Speaker 1: whatever planet they inevitably go to. We'll talk about this moment.
Speaker 1: I hope, Jack, are you training your You're well, they're
Speaker 1: probably too old for it, but when you have grandchildren,
Speaker 1: you got to train them for their mad Max future. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, my kids are foreign too, so it will
Speaker 1: probably be their kids who need to know how to
Speaker 1: like whield swords and water from a do you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah? Yeah, Now I'm I'm more training
Speaker 1: my kids with handguns because I think guns will still
Speaker 1: exist when they grow up. But then, yeah, their kids
Speaker 1: will definitely need more bladed But he's fine. One of
Speaker 1: his kids is Spider Man, so he'll be sucking it
Speaker 1: up anyway. I bet that will be something that happens
Speaker 1: in the apocalyptic world where people then don the made
Speaker 1: up garbs of the folkloric heroes of our time, the Avengers,
Speaker 1: and then there will be a version of Freud in
Speaker 1: two thousand years who's like he has a Spider Man
Speaker 1: complex because he uh sublimates all his sexual psycho sexual
Speaker 1: feelings through his great aunt. Uh. This is such a
Speaker 1: weird world. I'm sorry, world. I tried I tried to
Speaker 1: people if you can hear we try, We're trying, man,
Speaker 1: I recycled. Yeah, I'm sorry that the Gang of Iron
Speaker 1: Men is now, you know, one of the most dangerous
Speaker 1: marauding bands of bandits in the nation. We didn't see
Speaker 1: it like that, Oh my god. But yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I think the way this is
Speaker 1: being covered is does this like mean that this is
Speaker 1: an extra like washed thing that's gonna look like uh
Speaker 1: slap bracelets and like slap bracelets that lost people millions
Speaker 1: of dollars in five years or is it just the
Speaker 1: first step on the road to legitimacy. Um. And I
Speaker 1: think people are hoping it makes makes things more legitimate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's but it's got more. They want it
Speaker 1: too bad. The people want it too bad for it
Speaker 1: to just be beanie babies. Do you not remember how
Speaker 1: much people thought they were going to be millionaires off
Speaker 1: their bean babies. I guess the right people want it
Speaker 1: too bad in this case, Like whereas beanie babies was
Speaker 1: like a subculture and it was like you know, people
Speaker 1: on eBay, this is like now tied to financial markets. Uh.
Speaker 1: But then you know, once once the revolution happens. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they'll they'll lose value. I'm just gonna look because
Speaker 1: I always like to do this when we bring up
Speaker 1: beanie babies. I like to do the thing where I
Speaker 1: go on eBay and I check what a Princess Diana
Speaker 1: bear is going for because that used to be one
Speaker 1: of the hottest beanie babies. And wouldn't you know it,
Speaker 1: right now the people are still trying to sell it
Speaker 1: for ten dollars. Yeah, the ask versus the bid is
Speaker 1: always thousand dollars and then it's like eighteen dollars shipping.
Speaker 1: Come on if you can. If I'm gonna give you
Speaker 1: for that ship, you ship it for free. Let's be
Speaker 1: real here, but there are so many for people who
Speaker 1: are picturing uh, like some beanie baby that captures the
Speaker 1: beauty of Princess Diana and beanie baby form. No, it's
Speaker 1: just a white teddy, a beanie baby with a purple
Speaker 1: heart on a purple beanie baby with a white heart
Speaker 1: rose or something. So let's bless up rolls. That would
Speaker 1: be fun. O. God, can you imagine like the stories
Speaker 1: of like this person doesn't know what to do with
Speaker 1: their three million dollar gifts that is now worth nothing
Speaker 1: and they're trying to bring around their forty character blockchain
Speaker 1: code to pay for medical I can really see that happening,
Speaker 1: even with the finest people backing it. It's just so stupid.
Speaker 1: That's why every clubhouse room is this is the topic
Speaker 1: of conversation, and I feel like every time I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the fun you're talking about photography? Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: I put my n F T into my photograph and
Speaker 1: that's how Uh yeah, it's It does seem like the
Speaker 1: thing that usually happens is that like the market gets
Speaker 1: flooded because the but he realizes, oh, ship, we can
Speaker 1: make so much money off of these, So we make
Speaker 1: so many pugs, are so many beanie babies. So that
Speaker 1: is one thing that has going for it. But I
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm just yeah, just get out if look,
Speaker 1: if you're laundering money, we get it. Good for you.
Speaker 1: I found an interesting way to do it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that I'm cool with. Yeah, above board stuff, above board
Speaker 1: money laundering, you know what I mean, the cool kind. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe Pizza Hut should be focused less on uh they're
Speaker 1: pixelated slices of pizza and more on real world pizza.
Speaker 1: They still haven't quite figured that one, and I think
Speaker 1: it'll end up being is the people who are able
Speaker 1: to manufacture the scarcity are the ones that are going
Speaker 1: to get rich. I don't know if it's going to
Speaker 1: be the thing that by being in possession of it,
Speaker 1: you're then going to be like a good thing. I
Speaker 1: bought that million dollar gift because now it's worth three
Speaker 1: billy uh Catherine before we say goodbye, do you have
Speaker 1: a pay in on chain pizza? Chain pizza like Pizza Hut,
Speaker 1: Papa John's, Dominoes, Litteral Caesar's. In what order would you
Speaker 1: put those? Okay? I think this is like a familiarity thing,
Speaker 1: and Dominoes is my favorite because that's the one we
Speaker 1: had growing up, and it's only one of the chain
Speaker 1: pizza places that I would order from. Now we're on
Speaker 1: the same we're all we all agree moving on. I
Speaker 1: do think yeah, that settled that, although again I'll always
Speaker 1: shout out I do think they have a superior product
Speaker 1: now because of their own they're owning up to the
Speaker 1: fact that their previous pizza sucks. That was a hilarious
Speaker 1: ad campaign, but it was It's true. The crust is
Speaker 1: better now, the like Jackiet, whatch as we keep talking
Speaker 1: about this, they still said, funck no Dominoes Dominoes Daily.
Speaker 1: I don't know if y' all thought about that, And
Speaker 1: they're like, who are you get away from us? We
Speaker 1: want to talk to a podcast people know about. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it still makes sense. We just I
Speaker 1: need to now learn the lesson not to surprise their
Speaker 1: CEO at his home and certainly not dressed as a
Speaker 1: Domino's delivery driver who just made an errant stop to
Speaker 1: begin the conversation about sponsoring up the podcast and also
Speaker 1: revealing you don't work for domin I had a lot
Speaker 1: of issues with the way you're going about it, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think this time I will be dressed as the
Speaker 1: North Uh. Catherine, it has been such a pleasure having you.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? Um? Well,
Speaker 1: let's see. My podcast is called smart Mouth, which is
Speaker 1: two words, not one. Um, so you can find that anywhere.
Speaker 1: I'm on Instagram at smart Mouth Podcast. I do have
Speaker 1: the newsletter I was talking about before, which is smart
Speaker 1: Mouth dot sub stack dot com. Yeah, that's all my stuff,
Speaker 1: all right? Is there a tweet or some of the
Speaker 1: work of social media you've been enjoying. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: know why this correct me at but a woman named
Speaker 1: Lorie Charles who's on Twitter at the Stuff of Memes.
Speaker 1: This is what she wrote me. I'm gonna go Old
Speaker 1: Testament on your ass you. Oh no, you're donkey. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can talk now. Okay, listen up, asshole.
Speaker 1: I demand better working conditions. I found that delightful. That's great.
Speaker 1: Um Miles, where can people find you? What the tweet
Speaker 1: you've been? Oh? Man? Uh? Just Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network,
Speaker 1: Miles of Gray. Go on Twitch if you want to
Speaker 1: watch me and Sophia Alexander talk about reality TV for
Speaker 1: twenty day fiance is the name of that pot or podcast?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Whatever you wanna do, brouh.
Speaker 1: Let's see, um my, mamma. Some tweets that I'm liking.
Speaker 1: The first one is from Molly Lambert, which is just
Speaker 1: interesting because I know the Snyder cut has been out
Speaker 1: there and people are all talking about it. Says watching
Speaker 1: the Snyder cut absolutely not one clue what is happening.
Speaker 1: It's like a gray scale c G. I Koyana Scotti
Speaker 1: to me, movies are back, so I love to see it.
Speaker 1: Love to see it um. And then another one was
Speaker 1: one I had retweeted from a friend of mine who
Speaker 1: works at the l A. Times. It's from Mr Mark Potts.
Speaker 1: So anyway, he has a photo and this this weeek
Speaker 1: kind of blew up. He said. It seems like the
Speaker 1: company letting people send in thank you messages along I
Speaker 1: four oh five isn't checking the attached photos. And there
Speaker 1: are these digital billboards and on the side of the
Speaker 1: road it's like it's mostly like thank you the first responders.
Speaker 1: It says thank you police, and it has a name.
Speaker 1: The photo is Chris Dorner's and that ship was blasted
Speaker 1: on the four oh five and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: somebody's somebody's playing some games. Yeah, and then like just
Speaker 1: once this like I was looking back at this tweet
Speaker 1: like so many news people like do you know where
Speaker 1: this was? What's going on? Because yeah, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: a that's a pretty that's a pretty spicy one. M
Speaker 1: hm uh. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Let's see here.
Speaker 1: Clark Jones at the Clark Jones tweeted, whoever named it,
Speaker 1: did you redo? Was really having fun? Um Find me
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. Find us on Twitter
Speaker 1: at Daily Zeke. Guys were at the Daily Zygeist on Instagram.
Speaker 1: We have a Facebook fan page on a website, Daily
Speaker 1: zichys dot com where we post our episodes on our
Speaker 1: foot notes where we link off to the information that
Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as a
Speaker 1: song recommendation, Miles, what song would you recommend people check
Speaker 1: out today? This track is a remix of the Weekend's
Speaker 1: Crew Love grew Um but it's by Shlomo and it's
Speaker 1: like it's just got It's so dark if you thought
Speaker 1: the Weekend including us sound darker and more conflicted, because
Speaker 1: this is like before he started getting real poppy. This
Speaker 1: remix Weekend Cool Love Remix by Shlomo s h l
Speaker 1: O h m O. Just adult producer all around. But
Speaker 1: you have to get this on SoundCloud, baby, but the
Speaker 1: link will be in the footnotes. Also just from p
Speaker 1: J Evans, I think has been killing it lately. He
Speaker 1: had a tweet that made me laugh out loud where
Speaker 1: he said loudly a movie theater watching night at the museum.
Speaker 1: This never fucking happened. I just looked at him the
Speaker 1: energy for that. Uh yeah, all right you can go
Speaker 1: check out the SloMo remix. The Daily Zeitgeist is a
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Speaker 1: going to do it for this morning. We are back
Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we will
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