Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, six eight,
Speaker 1: Episode three up ter Days, the production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. It is our first episode of
Speaker 1: the Daily Zeitgeist. When Donald Trump is not the President
Speaker 1: of the United States. Wow, unmore Yeah, thank God. Back
Speaker 1: to brunch, y'all be two b It is Thursday, January one.
Speaker 1: It is uh t minus one day from January twenty,
Speaker 1: so we can stop counting this down. I will delete
Speaker 1: it from the dock. Uh we made it. The motherfucker
Speaker 1: is gone. We will talk about that. My name is
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien a k. My tiredness is killing me and
Speaker 1: I I must confess I'm Jacoby. Jacoby. When it's not Mountain,
Speaker 1: do I lose my mind? Give me a start? Hit
Speaker 1: me baja one more blast. That is courtesy of Samboni Zamboni,
Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miles grond Oh. And it's Miles Gray
Speaker 1: a k A. I thought we'd be stuck with you
Speaker 1: for ever, but that fascist pizza ship has gone away. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's not hard to say goodbye to this pizza ship
Speaker 1: and one more well, it seems to me that just
Speaker 1: in your life like a giant piece of ship. The
Speaker 1: first one is from me, the second one from Christie.
Speaker 1: I'm a Gucci Maine just had there. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of good. It's a lot of good right now, but
Speaker 1: I just had to He had a whole verse, but
Speaker 1: that one hits, you know, like a giant piece of ship. Beautiful.
Speaker 1: We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by the hilarious, the talent to the very first face
Speaker 1: on Mountain Zepmar She is Jamie Left. That's all I
Speaker 1: had to say. I did, I was. I lost my ship.
Speaker 1: When Jennifer Lopez screamed, let's get loud in the middle
Speaker 1: of this land is your land? Yeah that is? It
Speaker 1: was dope people that Woody Guthrie j Lo mash up,
Speaker 1: and it was like, Wow, this is a girl ball
Speaker 1: Us event. She gonna start doing her own ship like
Speaker 1: waiting for tonight and doing it, starting a medley of
Speaker 1: her great night don't be food like Joey from the Block.
Speaker 1: That was some real girl bash it. But I was
Speaker 1: laughing my head off. Yeah I'm not I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: get loud I'm getting I've been getting loud all morning,
Speaker 1: just screaming that, yeah, let's get I was actually we
Speaker 1: were a little worried heading into this recording, just how
Speaker 1: Sunny dealing with everything. Party. He's drunk, man, he's up,
Speaker 1: he started. I was telling Miles off Mike Sunny started
Speaker 1: icing us at five A Bro's ice and Bros. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, wait, my pillow feels weird.
Speaker 1: It turns out there's three smirknof ices under Damn. Sony
Speaker 1: is Jamie's dog, who is all right for new listeners. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so he was. He actually he was dead asleep by
Speaker 1: the time the inacuration happened. That like be passed out
Speaker 1: and you have that blocker on you. I know it
Speaker 1: doesn't it's not a good look to have that blocker
Speaker 1: on you. But you know, free the homies that they
Speaker 1: caught with it. R I p to the homies they
Speaker 1: caught without it. Because when you're getting ice, if you
Speaker 1: have us, if someone tries to ice you and you
Speaker 1: pull out of ice and you go, then they have
Speaker 1: to drink and then everyone looks ridiculous, and look, this
Speaker 1: will be in the lord that people won't know about.
Speaker 1: But when I was doing smearing off icing in the
Speaker 1: streets of Tokyo, there were moments where I would have
Speaker 1: six on me at any given moment because it was
Speaker 1: getting that aggressive and like Batman's utility belt. But how
Speaker 1: did you have them? Well, because it's in Japan, they
Speaker 1: sell Lucy's of smirnoff So I can go to a
Speaker 1: seven eleven and like when someone had their back turned,
Speaker 1: I would be like, oh, yeah, y'all want to check
Speaker 1: out that anime store, like going with like American friends,
Speaker 1: like yeah, going do I'm gonna play it out here.
Speaker 1: I would run down the street to the convenience store
Speaker 1: by like nine smirnoff ices and put in my backpack
Speaker 1: and then just like when they come out and be like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I got you something. It's stupid and I
Speaker 1: mean anyone under like what does does has never been iced.
Speaker 1: It was the best marketing tactic the Devil ever thought of.
Speaker 1: I'm I think people like it, fucking like break dot
Speaker 1: com or something that initially came up with it as
Speaker 1: a bit or something and then it ran away into
Speaker 1: this thing that people were like yes, because when like
Speaker 1: fred Freddie marketing like using a fret too marked it
Speaker 1: your products was like a feasible option. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just picture Sunny being so like next level where it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, because when you get when you start next leveling,
Speaker 1: people shout out to my friend Nick who taught me
Speaker 1: about the one where you disconnect the toilet handle, so
Speaker 1: someone would have to lift the toilet thing to look
Speaker 1: into the tank and you put ice in there and
Speaker 1: they're like and then you just hear some go fuck room.
Speaker 1: That's like the high you chase when you're doing it,
Speaker 1: like at another level. I just picked your Sunny like
Speaker 1: being like I gotta go to the bathroom and he
Speaker 1: just ships out of smear koff ice and it's like like, Gus,
Speaker 1: you've been nice. So yeah, I was sing us all morning.
Speaker 1: Um and yeah, you know, he said some things that
Speaker 1: I'd rather not repeat, but he was very drunk. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do they still smell? Do they still smell? No? Do
Speaker 1: they still sell smearnoff ice? So it's still a product. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I still try to ice. Well back when we can
Speaker 1: see people. I used to try to ice Caitlin, but
Speaker 1: she didn't drink it. She just says, no, keep trying ice.
Speaker 1: Something they don't know what the funk you're talking about
Speaker 1: or not interested and you just like such a piece
Speaker 1: of shit, so weird having to go to be like,
Speaker 1: oh so it's this thing where I hide it, and
Speaker 1: then you have to drink the whole thing in front
Speaker 1: of me because I said so, and you have to
Speaker 1: get on one knee before me as you do very chill. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't have to do any of that, Jamie. Okay, alright, alright,
Speaker 1: what a way to begin our first post Trump record. Listen,
Speaker 1: Let's get loud, folks, Let's get she said it, I
Speaker 1: felt it. Let's get I know. I'm gonna smoke that
Speaker 1: loud jard you smoking on that Trump smoke later that loud.
Speaker 1: All right, Jamie, we're going to get to know you
Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna
Speaker 1: tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
Speaker 1: We will give brief impressions of the inauguration. We know
Speaker 1: yesterday for y'all we're still, you know, living through the
Speaker 1: day of So we'll talk about that. We'll say peace
Speaker 1: out to the past president. Uh, we'll talk about his bills.
Speaker 1: Bills are coming do Yeah, I was too screening the
Speaker 1: inauguration with just a main line of Q and on
Speaker 1: people realizing that Biden hadn't been arrested yet and noon
Speaker 1: was approaching and then had passed. Uh So we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that and just generally how there seems to be
Speaker 1: a flagging of enthusiasm on the right. Um, so we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that. We'll talk about the kick game on
Speaker 1: display at the inauguration, Joe Exotic getting sucked over, just
Speaker 1: the latest person to get sucked over by Trump. And
Speaker 1: we will talk about Armie Hammer. Uh. We will have
Speaker 1: superproducer on a jsnier on to discuss all that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first Jamie, we like to ask our guest, what's
Speaker 1: something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh,
Speaker 1: I've been doing a lot of searches. Uh, so just
Speaker 1: let me know which search jumps out to you. I
Speaker 1: learned that there is an actual saint for mental illness,
Speaker 1: which I thought was really cool. I didn't know she existed.
Speaker 1: Her name's sat Dimfna and if you google her, she's
Speaker 1: really pretty. I found out that one more time period
Speaker 1: like where it's her when? That's when did she get
Speaker 1: her her miracles on? That's a good question. Let me see,
Speaker 1: I just know she's a yeah, thirteenth century. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: So there you go. She was murdered by her father,
Speaker 1: which brings me to my next my next Google search,
Speaker 1: which is the guy who helped make Tetris that murdered
Speaker 1: his family. I watched this long ass YouTube video about
Speaker 1: the making of Tetris because my algorithm is just fun.
Speaker 1: It was like an hour and a half long. It
Speaker 1: was really good, but it was like the history of
Speaker 1: Tetris and and so I just watched the whole thing
Speaker 1: and at the end, like they don't talk about the
Speaker 1: guy who murdered his family um during the video, but
Speaker 1: at the end they just do like the where are
Speaker 1: they now? And it's like this guy went on to
Speaker 1: work at this video game company. This guy went on
Speaker 1: to work at this video game company. This guy killed
Speaker 1: his entire family, this guy went on to work at Nintendo.
Speaker 1: And I was like, hold on, And it was like
Speaker 1: three in the morning. So a Russian, like one of
Speaker 1: the Russian guys who made it, or one of the Americans,
Speaker 1: a man named Vladimir Puck Puck kilco Um. It's very sad.
Speaker 1: It's extreme, like I'm not trying to make light of it.
Speaker 1: It was just very jarring to see at the end
Speaker 1: of a pretty video about tetris. Did the YouTube documentary
Speaker 1: also use the rules of three to have that be
Speaker 1: the third update? Just for it as hard as your presentation?
Speaker 1: Or was that your own comedic taste that you that was?
Speaker 1: That was my own little flourish, But yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: It's very sad, but it was just it woke me
Speaker 1: right the funk up at it was finishing this YouTube
Speaker 1: video and then I was googling. I've been really homesick
Speaker 1: recently since I was looking up local business drama in
Speaker 1: my area. There's all so um the best, the best,
Speaker 1: well not the best, I mean it's it's this is
Speaker 1: all upsetting, but this drama or like consumer beefs with
Speaker 1: the businesses. There's just always I feel like it happens everywhere,
Speaker 1: but in the Boston ones always really make me laugh
Speaker 1: of just like weird small all business drama and the
Speaker 1: best one there's like this is a pretty well known
Speaker 1: one at this point, but the cat cafe in Boston
Speaker 1: that was like run by a woman who didn't care
Speaker 1: about cats and was like there, uh so I googled
Speaker 1: cat cafe drama Boston, and that brings you to a
Speaker 1: slew of incredible um short histories of just uh. It
Speaker 1: was just a local Massachusetts woman who wanted to start
Speaker 1: a cat cafe, but guess what, she didn't know how
Speaker 1: to take care of cats. Uh. Cat lovers immediately got
Speaker 1: angry at her, but she just continued to double down.
Speaker 1: And it was just like real New England mom on
Speaker 1: Facebook energy where she would post these like screeds from
Speaker 1: the cat cafe page being like everyone who thinks I
Speaker 1: don't know how to take care of a cat is
Speaker 1: a hater and like it was, and it went on
Speaker 1: for years and years, and right right when it's like
Speaker 1: all these people she was working with were like, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be run a business about cats, uh. And so
Speaker 1: it went on for years. My brother used to live
Speaker 1: near the cat cafe, so I relived that drama. And
Speaker 1: then also the puppet theater I used to work out
Speaker 1: in Boston was embezzled from by its own managing director,
Speaker 1: so I was catching up on that drama. There's just
Speaker 1: my start. I don't know, my algorithm is is fucked
Speaker 1: for like a mix of good and bad news. You
Speaker 1: just hit us with. There's a lot going on on
Speaker 1: my Google how much can you embezzle out of a
Speaker 1: puppet theater? All of it? I guess, is there a
Speaker 1: dollar amount? What had happened? No, they it was kept
Speaker 1: pretty quiet. It was I was I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I was just like on one and I like contacted
Speaker 1: all my Boston media contacts to be like, why aren't
Speaker 1: people reporting on the puppet embezzlement? And then I did
Speaker 1: a bunch of this is like a month ago. I
Speaker 1: did a ton of research. I sent it to my
Speaker 1: friend and she was like, um, I'll see what we
Speaker 1: can do, but it's you just got to go through
Speaker 1: it here. It is just like what kind of person
Speaker 1: do you need to be to embezzle from a fucking
Speaker 1: independently run, nonprofit puppet theater. That's first fucking kind. I
Speaker 1: feel like you've got to be a bad guy in
Speaker 1: a Muppets movie, Like that's from a puppet I was
Speaker 1: so upset about it, and I was like, people in
Speaker 1: Boston should be so mad that people stole for someone
Speaker 1: stole from a puppet theater. But it was like someone
Speaker 1: at the top was just like taking money out of
Speaker 1: the out of the cash bo Like what was your
Speaker 1: connection to the puppet theater, just like when you went
Speaker 1: to or I used to work. I used to work there.
Speaker 1: I enterned there in college and then I worked there
Speaker 1: for a little bit. It's a great puppet theater. It
Speaker 1: seems like they're going to be okay, but there was
Speaker 1: I got like, I'm still in their email list, and
Speaker 1: like a month and a half ago, they sent out
Speaker 1: this wild email that was just like an update on
Speaker 1: the embezzlement scandal. I was like, oh, because usually it's
Speaker 1: like do you want to watch Shadow Puppets on Zoom?
Speaker 1: And I'm like no, But um, so there's you know,
Speaker 1: just a little a little bit of local drama to
Speaker 1: make me feel closer to home. Nice. What is something
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? Um, chromatica oreos as anyone? I
Speaker 1: feel like, have you talked about chromatic green? We have not. No,
Speaker 1: But I've noticed how you're steady been posting some just
Speaker 1: wonderful snack foods on your social media, Uh, to the
Speaker 1: point where I'm like, Okay, it's this is becoming aficionado
Speaker 1: levels of cash food that she's like picking up. So
Speaker 1: is it just the color? Is there something new? What's
Speaker 1: what's going on with CHROMATICA. I'm just surprised that more
Speaker 1: people weren't talking about CHROMATICA oreos because it's a ridiculous
Speaker 1: premise if you don't know what CHROMATICA oreos are. Their
Speaker 1: oreo tie ins too. Lady Gaga's album that came out
Speaker 1: a year ago really unclear why I these exist, but
Speaker 1: she announced like last month. It was also a really
Speaker 1: funny announcement video because she posted on Twitter a video
Speaker 1: of her like fully lying down, giving it two being like,
Speaker 1: by the way, CHROMATICA oreos are coming out soon, and
Speaker 1: everyone was like, hold on, wow, this you're not lying.
Speaker 1: This screencap is her laying on a bed like this,
Speaker 1: and she's like, yeah, guys, check this out. I don't
Speaker 1: know I'm laying down. She's got about her energy to
Speaker 1: be the most person, the most extra person of all
Speaker 1: time at an inauguration or just anywhere in public. There
Speaker 1: was I really wanted. But then it was like she
Speaker 1: she announced them, and then no chromatic oreos for a
Speaker 1: long time, and I was like, I feel like I
Speaker 1: I followed the people on Twitter who would have found them, right,
Speaker 1: and then finally we found chromatical oreos. Got six packs
Speaker 1: of chromatical oreos and now they're just gone. They're done,
Speaker 1: They're lost to time. They didn't come, they didn't hit
Speaker 1: shelves because I was actually listening to WHO Weekly and
Speaker 1: they were saying they were saying that like they are
Speaker 1: on a slow drip where they're they released like the
Speaker 1: small individual sized and then pretty soon it's going to
Speaker 1: be yeah, they're the silver pack or the pink pack.
Speaker 1: I mean the silver, like the six six cookie silver. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we went to we went to seven eleven and
Speaker 1: we cleared them out of chromatic oreos, which was fucked up.
Speaker 1: We but then once their display was gone, it was
Speaker 1: just gone. Because I was going to go back and
Speaker 1: be like, what's going on with the chromatica oreos display?
Speaker 1: Could I take it off your hands? Um? But it
Speaker 1: was already gone. So I'm glad. I'm glad to hear
Speaker 1: that they are coming back because they were good. I
Speaker 1: think that they were just like golden Oreos that were
Speaker 1: done pink. But they have and then it has this
Speaker 1: little um I think they talked about this on WHO
Speaker 1: Weekly to the they have like a little QR code
Speaker 1: that you scan and then you can make Lady Gaga
Speaker 1: say a message to you. Hell yeah, and the messages
Speaker 1: they played on Who Weekly were like, uh, you can
Speaker 1: do anything. Like people say things are impossible, but they're
Speaker 1: not everyone. Yeah, mine was mine was kindness rules all
Speaker 1: and that's like thank you, Lady Gaga. CHROMATICA oreos. That
Speaker 1: hurt pack twenty bucks is the cheapest. I'm seeing it
Speaker 1: on eBay, fuck who and also oreos on eBay. That's
Speaker 1: a that's a new level. Yeah. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't even know if I'm there. I hope that your children,
Speaker 1: grandchildren go like, what's all what's all this stuff of
Speaker 1: your closet? Grandma's these stuff bears and Lady Gaga oreos
Speaker 1: like they're some supposed to pay for your college. This
Speaker 1: is my beanie babies. Oh I'm seeing the pink pack. Wow. Wow, Wow.
Speaker 1: People are really selling their Cromatic oreos on market. The
Speaker 1: resellers every game up five dollars. Every game is fucked
Speaker 1: up because reselling. You know, wow, what happened to fans
Speaker 1: just having the ship because they loved it. I did
Speaker 1: save all of my rappers, we just put them in
Speaker 1: a drawer. But I ate every single CHROMATICA oreo, and
Speaker 1: I had like forty. That's one of the lyrics from
Speaker 1: that Faith Hill song right, eat every single don't just say, um,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Okay, this is
Speaker 1: an inauguration related one. I don't. I think it's overrated
Speaker 1: when there are these events where they would normally be
Speaker 1: people and then there's not people, so they just put
Speaker 1: little items where the people would normally be. I don't
Speaker 1: like it, especially when they did it with the flags.
Speaker 1: It made it it was really bleak. I'm like, this
Speaker 1: looks like memorial. Yeah, it looks like a memorial like
Speaker 1: in a way. Then it's like it's not. It's not
Speaker 1: the funniest one. I just thought that was like a
Speaker 1: little like it was just bizarre to keep cutting to
Speaker 1: like a yield full of flags, isn't it. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: first of all, can we use that money for literally
Speaker 1: anything else and then just not have that shot? It
Speaker 1: was all left over from like Milannia's public events. I
Speaker 1: think just like we got a bunch of blacks man,
Speaker 1: how did that was? So that was I don't like it.
Speaker 1: But the funniest one, Um, I was watching the New
Speaker 1: Year's the time score New Year's he've covered a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and where either of you watching it.
Speaker 1: I watched I watched one that was like a live
Speaker 1: stream at nine o'clock Pacific time, but it was so
Speaker 1: there the Times Square it was I mean, it was
Speaker 1: obviously dystopian, but it was sponsored completely by um Planet
Speaker 1: Fitness for some reason. It was like New Year's Eve
Speaker 1: brought to you by Planet Fitness, and where and where
Speaker 1: the people were. They had Planet Fitness waggy inflatable arm
Speaker 1: guys just go in all night. It was so I
Speaker 1: really don't that was the funniest should've ever seen in
Speaker 1: my life. But I just think it's a weird. I'm like,
Speaker 1: we know that there's not people there. You're not tricking
Speaker 1: me into big Wow, what a full Inauguration Square is
Speaker 1: packed right now? What a misguided sponsorship. That's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing that you worry about the morning after
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve. That's yeah, that's someone having like Christmas
Speaker 1: tree clean up themed Christmas decorations. It's like, that's not
Speaker 1: what we're here for. It's like, no one should be
Speaker 1: going to fucking Planet Fitness right now anyways, like what
Speaker 1: are we Oh? It was really funny though. Also get
Speaker 1: a picture someone in the suite of Planet Fitness was
Speaker 1: probably Look, dude, Joe Biden's gonna be president. The pandemic
Speaker 1: is gonna finally end, and people are gonna be flooding
Speaker 1: back into Jim's. We gotta get ahead of it and
Speaker 1: get our name out there. Are New Year's because you
Speaker 1: know the resolutions. That's when we do our business. And
Speaker 1: with Binden in office, it's going to be like a
Speaker 1: light switch. Boys. I'm like, I think there's some it's
Speaker 1: so aggressively misguided, like to your point of I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess some states, Yeah, like they are. They're a
Speaker 1: little bit more relaxed because the situation might not be
Speaker 1: his dire, so people can patronize the gym or go
Speaker 1: to a gym, but like ship from my from out here,
Speaker 1: I'm like, can't even go outside. Tell you who was
Speaker 1: more relaxed was Garth Brooks at the inauguration just walking
Speaker 1: around without a mask on, just fucking talking right at
Speaker 1: the President's face like a yeah, like a Trump just
Speaker 1: bringing a little piece of Americans who refused to wear
Speaker 1: masks to uh to the inauguration. Yes, everyone was what
Speaker 1: a wild energy there when he was trying to make
Speaker 1: that thing happened, when he was like all right. It
Speaker 1: sounded like a Vic Burger video. It was sounded so
Speaker 1: like just like you could hear his like mouth sounds
Speaker 1: like you could just hear his lips smacking together. You're like, sir,
Speaker 1: it's a nice idea, but it's not working. Yeah, I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I started singing it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like feel right right, And then I was like
Speaker 1: their magic, Like what do you? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like nothing, you're singing with Garth brooks Um. That was
Speaker 1: a bad and objectively bad performance of amazing grace like
Speaker 1: I can think of. I think like at of the
Speaker 1: US population would have done a better job. But my
Speaker 1: four year old was like, can you put this song
Speaker 1: on my uh playlist? Because I think like it. Hearing
Speaker 1: someone who is bad, who was like a mediocre singer
Speaker 1: sing it, you really like it shows off the quality
Speaker 1: of the song. For some reason, there was a bright side. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My kids also thought I was like, come, come look
Speaker 1: at the new president. And they heard come look at
Speaker 1: the new present, and they thought they were getting a present.
Speaker 1: And so most of the inauguration was a bit down.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, let's take a quick break and we'll
Speaker 1: be right back and we're back, and should we give
Speaker 1: just a few of our inaugural impressions? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: you go first, who are you going to do an
Speaker 1: impression of? No? Come on? What what were you guys thoughts?
Speaker 1: It was fine. I don't know, I'm I think to me,
Speaker 1: I was just like, I'm glad he said white supremacy
Speaker 1: the words out loud. I don't think. I don't think
Speaker 1: presidents ever said that, especially during an inauguration, So uh cool.
Speaker 1: But it's more like, you know, it's just I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm I was trying to take the moment for what
Speaker 1: it was like, truly, just to you know. I wasn't
Speaker 1: really able to relax after the election because I don't know,
Speaker 1: because you know, because everything that fucking went down in
Speaker 1: between men and today, um, and I was like, until
Speaker 1: I see this motherfucker truly just turned into a tiny
Speaker 1: dot on a plane and vanish into the sky, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to field. So aside from like
Speaker 1: my immediate worry for the future of the country, I
Speaker 1: tried to just let it be a pleasant moment where
Speaker 1: there was trying to be some sense of like order
Speaker 1: again in terms of like how this this thing worked
Speaker 1: over there in d C. So that was I think
Speaker 1: more than anything. I was just like that the energy
Speaker 1: I was taking in more than like the individual details
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, I felt a relief when it hit
Speaker 1: noon and Biden didn't get arrested by Q and the
Speaker 1: Q and on people were real fired up. But also
Speaker 1: that was when Trump no longer had access to the
Speaker 1: nuclear a coach, So I was do you see the
Speaker 1: video where they were walking the football in No, I'm
Speaker 1: not lying. That was truly the moment. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, okay, I just like there it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just the time changing on my on my phone was like, yes, okay,
Speaker 1: we can breathe a sigh of relief and then begin
Speaker 1: to inhale a breath of air to right, like making
Speaker 1: sure this guy delivers on a lot of the ship
Speaker 1: that he promised people. But yeah, in the moment, it
Speaker 1: felt nice and a man Gorman shout out to her,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, he's very incredible. She's a star,
Speaker 1: is what I said. When she's a star, look at kids.
Speaker 1: You should watch her. She's a kid to look at her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did think she was younger than she is. I
Speaker 1: was like, this child has more presence than anybody else.
Speaker 1: But she's twenty two. But I got very nervous when
Speaker 1: I saw Bill Clinton talking to her loan afterwards. I
Speaker 1: was like, can we like shut it down? You can
Speaker 1: see the Secret Service guy tackle her, like like get
Speaker 1: down here. Yeah, there was a whole just seeing it
Speaker 1: was also just weird to see like the passage of
Speaker 1: time that had occurred, because I vividly remember watching the
Speaker 1: inauguration four years ago in my underwear and it was
Speaker 1: raining in l A. And I was like, Jesus fucked up.
Speaker 1: There we go and that American carnage fucking speech he
Speaker 1: gave and it was like yeah, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: then to realize that that we had gotten past it,
Speaker 1: and but all the damage I was done, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it was, it was a lot of It was just
Speaker 1: very surreal, I think, to see it all happen. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely some relief and then other stuff that's just like
Speaker 1: god damn it. There's so much to do, like and
Speaker 1: there's so much to like hold to account. That's why
Speaker 1: I think it's important to like treat this at least
Speaker 1: one day. Uh, you know, as we record this, it's
Speaker 1: still inauguration day, but like just to fucking remember, like
Speaker 1: okay that that actually we can punctuate the end of
Speaker 1: that administration. Yeah, and like feel the relief of that
Speaker 1: and then still just be like okay, but now, you know,
Speaker 1: keep the strength up to not just completely go back
Speaker 1: to normal because the media is like love they're starting
Speaker 1: out like eleven again, like we were talking narrative. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like, who glad that was over? Like there, yeah
Speaker 1: that no, back to brunch. I mean it goes without
Speaker 1: saying that like that is garbage, but you know, it's
Speaker 1: a good week to join your local tenants union. Um.
Speaker 1: The we've been talking about just overall, like the the
Speaker 1: idea that or I've been talking about this, the the
Speaker 1: idea that the presidency is sort of a blend of um,
Speaker 1: the monarchy and actually like having power to end the world. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that was many They really like just the way
Speaker 1: that all the pop and circumstance that goes into that,
Speaker 1: like the it really like drives at home the god
Speaker 1: ordained like religious nature of the Guttenberg Bible. Yeah. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, okay, the political theater is a bit especially
Speaker 1: in a year that's been all political theater and like
Speaker 1: bad community polity. I was kind of bummed out, and
Speaker 1: not like because I'm like, oh they sank He's gone,
Speaker 1: but like truly Trump just took such a dump on
Speaker 1: the idea of what this thing is that like it
Speaker 1: kind of helped like wash away any magic or mystery
Speaker 1: that I was sort of like, I'm like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: Like here we go with the fancy fanfare and all
Speaker 1: this other stuff that for whatever reason, like I just
Speaker 1: became more cynical looking at it, or just have the
Speaker 1: feeling of like it's it's the value has been demand
Speaker 1: inish to the point where it looks like meaningless. I
Speaker 1: liked Bernie. I feel like Bernie Sanders's vibe was the
Speaker 1: most appropriate of anyone up there, looking like he just
Speaker 1: came from a Burlington cope factory, just with some Yeah,
Speaker 1: he had Mittens on by like a teacher in Vermont
Speaker 1: who like super dope, and the all the other presidents
Speaker 1: had on those like O J is a toner black
Speaker 1: leather gloves that I'm always How did those last? How
Speaker 1: are they still like the de facto cold weather glove
Speaker 1: for people? Are they comfortable? I've never worn leather gloves
Speaker 1: my mom got like a promo pair for some movie
Speaker 1: because she always gets all this stuff like from junks,
Speaker 1: and that's a sinister thing to send someone the leather clubs?
Speaker 1: Was it for the people versus o js? No, it's
Speaker 1: for this TV show Fargo. Okay, No, they are a crime.
Speaker 1: They're they're perfect glows. But I remember seeing him like,
Speaker 1: what is this for people versus o j Obviously, but
Speaker 1: I mean it's not like their leather on the inside.
Speaker 1: They're just like fleece lined. So but there for when
Speaker 1: when I wear them, I feel like a cop or something,
Speaker 1: and I don't like I'm like, give me the mittens.
Speaker 1: Aesthetic is weird? I liked. I like Bernie's mittens. I
Speaker 1: like that he brought an envelope with him. He was like,
Speaker 1: I'm going back to work, right Yeah, He's like, wrap
Speaker 1: this up the post. I'm pretty sure the last pickup
Speaker 1: point for this mailboxes in about thirty minutes and shout
Speaker 1: out to social media. We we give social media a
Speaker 1: lot of ship for bringing about the dissolution of society,
Speaker 1: but the photoshop game with a photoshopping Bernie into various
Speaker 1: like onto the New York City subway, onto various places
Speaker 1: that he looked appropriate for was in full effect and
Speaker 1: well done. Hell yeah, all right, let's say, uh, piece
Speaker 1: out to that piece of ship um who just left
Speaker 1: office and just kind of get our heads around you
Speaker 1: know where he where he's at because he wasn't at
Speaker 1: the inauguration, which was nice, God, thank god, Yeah it
Speaker 1: was I didn't I didn't realize how I like, how
Speaker 1: glaring his absence would be um after I don't know,
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, you really do notice when
Speaker 1: every other living president is sitting there and the worst
Speaker 1: person on earth is not sitting there. Right, Biden acknowledged
Speaker 1: like in Jimmy Carter can't be here because old understood.
Speaker 1: But but he did not acknowledge that. He did shout
Speaker 1: out Mike Pence but yeah, and then salty punk motherfucker
Speaker 1: you worked with. I guess I forget his name, but
Speaker 1: he's not here, but yeah, he's satisfying. See Pence, Pence
Speaker 1: get in the suburban and go away. It was nice.
Speaker 1: I didn't even wake up to watch the Trump like,
Speaker 1: get the funk out of here fest. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just saw a couple of pictures and I'm not really
Speaker 1: interested and give or give a funk about what he
Speaker 1: said because piece the funk out, but I know that
Speaker 1: the very least he did vow to return. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: then the other thing that was coming along with that
Speaker 1: is that, you know, he's also been talking about splitting
Speaker 1: off Third Party talk now making the Patriot Party and
Speaker 1: really taking his little fucking missing from misinformed humanoid toys
Speaker 1: of supporters and making his own little thing. So that
Speaker 1: would be interesting because that would be look a split
Speaker 1: GOP whatever movement. Uh great, figured like I'd love to
Speaker 1: see them try and unify against anything, but who knows.
Speaker 1: I mean, but they're more alike than they are dissimilar.
Speaker 1: So at the end of the day, it's more just
Speaker 1: like the GEOP just wasn't outwardly racist enough for that.
Speaker 1: Now I now have like a visceral reaction to when
Speaker 1: anyone uses the word unity. I'm like, sounds like something
Speaker 1: is on the way, saying okay fascists. Yeah. But I mean,
Speaker 1: if if that does happen, that also opens it up
Speaker 1: for actual progressives to break off from the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: which would be and then like, now what you're gonna
Speaker 1: do because now we've yeah yeah, um, but so you
Speaker 1: know he's down in Florida now, Uh, and he's you know,
Speaker 1: the new reality that he's dealing with is setting in
Speaker 1: for him. Uh, one thing that's gonna hit well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd hope. So, I mean it kind of has to
Speaker 1: because he's facing legal challenges and financially he's kind of fucked. Right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Golf courses are just been fucked by the
Speaker 1: pandemic um and basically anything that has the word Trump
Speaker 1: on it is just toxic and going into a death
Speaker 1: spiral um. You know, like the places that we're making
Speaker 1: money throughout you know, despite his brand toxicity and all
Speaker 1: that was Bedminster in New Jersey, uh and mar Lago
Speaker 1: and the Trump Hotel and DC because they were sort
Speaker 1: of like these places where everyone would be like, oh dude,
Speaker 1: if you hang out around there, like there's a chance
Speaker 1: you'll intersect with someone in the administration. And that's like
Speaker 1: where the power brokering was happening. But now that that
Speaker 1: ship's poof like they're like they're like, oh funk that,
Speaker 1: Like that might as well just be an abandoned like
Speaker 1: fucking Halloween store or some ship. So now and see,
Speaker 1: all these problems were before he tried to skull funk
Speaker 1: the capital with the insurrection, so on top of that,
Speaker 1: there's all this other fallout. So his forty Wall Street
Speaker 1: property tenants are just fleeing. Girl Scouts of America are gone.
Speaker 1: The p g A is like, dude, we're not doing
Speaker 1: anything with you and any of your golf courses. The
Speaker 1: City of New York's terminating all kinds of like contracts
Speaker 1: with him, um and and more than anything, it's the
Speaker 1: fact that he has no banks that will actually help him,
Speaker 1: like his biggest creditor Deutsche Bank, who does literally business
Speaker 1: with anyone fucking terrorists, narco trafficer, whatever the funk anything like,
Speaker 1: we don't give a funk. If you can be clever
Speaker 1: with it will turn the other way. They're like, sorry, um,
Speaker 1: we can't really lend to you anymore. And right now
Speaker 1: he's got about half billion dollars in bills okay to
Speaker 1: two lenders, most of it is owed to Deutsche Bank.
Speaker 1: And you know he these these loans are guaranteed by
Speaker 1: by Trump himself, being his personal assets could be at
Speaker 1: stake if he defaults, So you love to see it.
Speaker 1: You'll love to see it. I yeah, I mean Deutsche
Speaker 1: Bank dropping out on him. I mean, I'm I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I honestly wasn't sure if that was ever going to
Speaker 1: happen because they've been in business for so long at
Speaker 1: this point. This is that was beautiful. It was beautiful
Speaker 1: to see. Yeah. The thing that I think is weird,
Speaker 1: right because he only they estimated he's got maybe what
Speaker 1: a hundred fifty million in cash, So to make up
Speaker 1: to that other three fifty that's going to require a
Speaker 1: fire sale or some other dark shit. I don't like
Speaker 1: if that means monetizing your knowledge of you know, being
Speaker 1: in office and trying to sell that to people or whatever,
Speaker 1: that means count on the good wheel, goodwill of Vladimir
Speaker 1: Putin to I can't imagine you think this if he
Speaker 1: thought the wires were tapped at Trump Tower, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that. I don't think he can even
Speaker 1: fart without fucking three feds like listening to relationship. So
Speaker 1: I'm hoping for him like a lb J style ex presidency.
Speaker 1: LBJ like the day he left the office, was like
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna start smoking again, I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: drinking heavily, and was like gone in you know, a
Speaker 1: couple of years, just like couldn't couldn't hack it. And
Speaker 1: like when you see pictures of him, he has like
Speaker 1: long like a mullet and like long fingernails. Was just
Speaker 1: like completely fell apart. Uh. Yeah. The other thing though,
Speaker 1: just to dunk on him one last time, you know,
Speaker 1: because I think we need to dunk on this fucking, shitty,
Speaker 1: fucking guy as many times as possible. Um is his
Speaker 1: legal troubles. Let's not forget the legal ship he's facing
Speaker 1: New York. It's ugly. The New York Attorney General, Manhattan
Speaker 1: d A. They're all looking into the Trump administration or
Speaker 1: the Trump organization for tax shit. The Manhattan d A
Speaker 1: is building a criminal case around that. Oh that's not pardonable. Um.
Speaker 1: He also has death all the defamation lawsuits from the
Speaker 1: sexual assaults he's been accused of. Let's not forget all
Speaker 1: of that ship that. He doesn't have the henchman, the
Speaker 1: agents of Fucory to delay this ship anymore. Like he's
Speaker 1: just a regular violating piece of ship now. And he's exposed.
Speaker 1: On top of that, the Washington d c. Attorney General
Speaker 1: is looking into stuff around the inaugural committee and all
Speaker 1: the financial ship that was going on there. Then the
Speaker 1: attack on the Capitol. Okay, like that is another thing.
Speaker 1: The fucking dominion voting machine stuff. Dominions suing him are
Speaker 1: the dominions suing Sidney pal for a billion dollars. So
Speaker 1: he is I don't the proper fucked, I think is
Speaker 1: the word by all traditional measures. And you know what,
Speaker 1: I will say this, like I hope there is justice
Speaker 1: or whatever at the very least him doing on my
Speaker 1: pillow informercial where he plays van O White to Mike
Speaker 1: Lindell pass a jack um, where he's like, it would
Speaker 1: be so fitting that he becomes second fit of to somebody.
Speaker 1: But I feel like you'll probably try to do his
Speaker 1: own kind of shitty master class thing, you know, like
Speaker 1: trying to pull one of those to be like, how
Speaker 1: did I like, because he's done that five hundred times
Speaker 1: and now he's got this whole another like level of
Speaker 1: evil clout to um, you're getting how to destroy the
Speaker 1: world master class. You know, things around the table people
Speaker 1: have been so you know, like they fell for his
Speaker 1: Trump University. There was like a guy there's an article
Speaker 1: and Reuters the ap about someone who was grifted by
Speaker 1: a guy Trump pardoned, who like he's like, but I
Speaker 1: support the president and he pardoned the guy who took
Speaker 1: my life savings. You're like, uh and yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: there does seem to be you know, obviously, like like
Speaker 1: we were mentioning up top, like America full of systemic racism,
Speaker 1: passive status quo, white supremacy. None of that is changing
Speaker 1: without the hard, brutal work, you know, that's the status quo.
Speaker 1: It takes pain to make that change. But in terms
Speaker 1: of like the the racists who felt empowered and like
Speaker 1: legitimized by the Trump presidency, there does seem like there's
Speaker 1: like an a very immediate reaction of either crawling back
Speaker 1: in their holes or being like but what what what happened?
Speaker 1: Like there? You know, there's still the people we we
Speaker 1: talked about how Q isn't going anywhere. Q and on
Speaker 1: doesn't go anywhere. But there are like a lot of
Speaker 1: posts from people in the Q forums who are like,
Speaker 1: I mean, there's legitimately a post that says, huh, I
Speaker 1: guess we were wrong. Like there the guy says, fun
Speaker 1: this sham. I want to puke like it just I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't stop reading these screen caps from Q forums
Speaker 1: of where's the damn storm? What happened? Why didn't the
Speaker 1: plan work? The number one post on the Q and
Speaker 1: On like their version of Reddit is just a guys
Speaker 1: question work if it's also nice to see or like
Speaker 1: kind of heartening to see that d platforming really like
Speaker 1: it really does do something to properly d platform and
Speaker 1: it's like it's still I'll never get over how long
Speaker 1: it took um all the social media billionaires to d
Speaker 1: platform Trump. But it's like had an immediate effect. It
Speaker 1: really has. It's and it's I mean, didn't what's his
Speaker 1: name Watkins made a post as well, Who's Watkins? The
Speaker 1: Ron Watkins, the guy who is cute? Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: he's just like, well then, like the vibe of the
Speaker 1: boss was like Q and On was was it was
Speaker 1: more about the friends we made actual major Q and
Speaker 1: On Booster, who some suspected of being Q himself. Post
Speaker 1: Uh posted a note of resignation on his telegram channel
Speaker 1: and his uh quote, we have a new president sworn in,
Speaker 1: and it is our responsibility as citizens to respect the
Speaker 1: Constitution as we enter into the next administration. Please remember
Speaker 1: all the friends and happy memories we made together over
Speaker 1: the past few years. What did piece of ship friends
Speaker 1: we made around along the way. Yeah, but also now
Speaker 1: to be like, let's let's respect the constitution. I don't
Speaker 1: want any liability here. The words I'm saying is play
Speaker 1: nice now, even though we were fucking gassing you all
Speaker 1: up on this bullshit. I love also in that the
Speaker 1: screen grab you have from that queue forum where someone
Speaker 1: was like, do any and all federal agents browsing this website?
Speaker 1: Every post I have ever made is satire. They're doing that,
Speaker 1: and they're doing that online craft. You may not use
Speaker 1: my post to incriminate me. Uh. Not fair, not fair.
Speaker 1: I am sovereign. There's just when you get a little
Speaker 1: too let's get loud and then get bad. Uh, there's
Speaker 1: a there's one section I just want to read word
Speaker 1: for word. Well, I'm the official laughing stock of my family.
Speaker 1: Now awesome. And then someone this is embarrassing. Here come
Speaker 1: all excuses now. And then somebody was responding to a comment,
Speaker 1: so where is the shock and awe? Question mark? And
Speaker 1: I guess this was like at eleven thirty, and this
Speaker 1: person responded. Q also said noon exclamation point. I will
Speaker 1: start kicking people, kicking people for their attitudes. We are patriots.
Speaker 1: You stand here and hold the line with us or
Speaker 1: you can leave your choice. Uh and Noon came and
Speaker 1: went and it went fart he was not heard from.
Speaker 1: Uh let's and then the final one in that is, OMG,
Speaker 1: none of this was real. I mean, you know what
Speaker 1: they if you have somebody that is willing to own
Speaker 1: up that they came this far and it didn't happen. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe she's like, okay, so do you want
Speaker 1: to talk about how do you want to make amends?
Speaker 1: Now that's the thing I'm trying to figure out, right
Speaker 1: because if clearly there are people who are like truly
Speaker 1: or like what the fuck I played myself there? I
Speaker 1: feel like there has to be a way to, like,
Speaker 1: you want to capitalize on that energy to try and
Speaker 1: get people to return to the information age on some level.
Speaker 1: But Jesus, I do want to just play this one
Speaker 1: thing of this Q and on guy who's so disappointed
Speaker 1: at noon who is posting and just like come on, guys, like,
Speaker 1: let's just to stay together. Well, patriots, we're all probably
Speaker 1: doing the same thing watching this inauguration. You know, we've
Speaker 1: been told to watch it carefully because a lot of
Speaker 1: it could be nonsense, fake. Um, you know, only time
Speaker 1: will tell, but you know, Simon Scott McKay, they've all
Speaker 1: told us that this thing has to go all the
Speaker 1: way through for it to be completed. The inauguration before
Speaker 1: makes a move. So I think we're all sitting here waiting,
Speaker 1: waiting for something to happen. I don't think this is
Speaker 1: over yet, fellas, guys and girls inclusive. What about the
Speaker 1: non binary que people? Know, okay, just making sure we're
Speaker 1: que stands on that, alright, ladies and a gentleman. But wow,
Speaker 1: they were yeah, they were really. The goal posts were shifting,
Speaker 1: and like there were some other people on Twitter who
Speaker 1: were monitoring in real time showing that they're like there
Speaker 1: was a there was like a very distinct moment at
Speaker 1: noon where a couple of people tried to push the
Speaker 1: goalposts even further and people like, no, fuck this, and
Speaker 1: like I started devouring the fucking like the thread. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about it. He's just running late military precision by as.
Speaker 1: I do wonder like if there's there, like there's a
Speaker 1: clear need to like do some mass de radicalization, especially
Speaker 1: for people who are newly um saying like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: everything that I have been like burning every bridge in
Speaker 1: my life and giving into every prejudice I've ever had
Speaker 1: was based on this gigantic lie. And it's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not. I wonder if there will be
Speaker 1: some sort of figure or ideology that emerges that is
Speaker 1: actually helpful in de radicalizing. I don't I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's so like, what what is gonna what are which
Speaker 1: direction are are these people gonna go? Right there? Does
Speaker 1: seem like some of the institutions are losing momentum, Like
Speaker 1: even Fox News is now like it's always way out
Speaker 1: in front, first in the ratings, and now it's lagging.
Speaker 1: It's third ever since the election. I think just the
Speaker 1: fact that they don't have a coherent truth they can
Speaker 1: kind of rally behind, like there, uh, the news part
Speaker 1: of their reporting, like the stuff that happens during the
Speaker 1: day just now completely contradicts the stuff that they're saying
Speaker 1: at night. Um. Tucker Carlson is usually way out front,
Speaker 1: number one in the ratings, he's now like fourth. Um.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that you're you're seeing even like
Speaker 1: pulling shift around about pent of Republicans say they approve
Speaker 1: of conviction in the latest poll, uh conviction of Donald
Speaker 1: Trump in the in the Senate, which is an increase
Speaker 1: from fourteen percent of Republicans saying that just like a
Speaker 1: week before. And that's that's you know, the fact that
Speaker 1: it's moving in that direction as we get further away
Speaker 1: from the event is I think somewhat significant, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's you'd hope. And that's probably like the
Speaker 1: self preservation mechanism of a lot of these fucking ghouls
Speaker 1: who are just absolute monsters the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: being like, Okay, I'm gonna lean hard into this thing
Speaker 1: and then maybe that will absolve me, or at least
Speaker 1: people will weigh that against you know that all the
Speaker 1: dumb shit I did because like we have this weird
Speaker 1: thing in America too, or like you could have a
Speaker 1: lifetime of being racist, but you could be like, no,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think black lives matter, and suddenly
Speaker 1: it's if it completely erased your history or like how
Speaker 1: you've spoken about things. Not that people can change. But
Speaker 1: there's a very cynical way of like trying to suddenly
Speaker 1: be like, no, I'm on this side, to try and
Speaker 1: appear like you have been correct, and I maybe there's
Speaker 1: that and maybe we just benefit from that that they
Speaker 1: just they so badly want to hide their own sins
Speaker 1: that they they're just like sucking all vote for impeachment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then we will continue to pretend. I'm sure a
Speaker 1: lot of people continue to pretend or treat those their
Speaker 1: fellow senators Congress people like oh, that was so great
Speaker 1: of you to do that, even though like you raw
Speaker 1: rod the insurrection and we almost all got got that's
Speaker 1: I mean, then that's what's so infuriating about the unity
Speaker 1: message that's being made literally two weeks after a violent insurrection,
Speaker 1: like fuck off you know off? Um yeah, that's never
Speaker 1: not going to be fucking infuriating. Guys, hug this weed
Speaker 1: whacker that's on real close to your face. It's the
Speaker 1: weed whacker. Unity with it. No, it's fun. No, No,
Speaker 1: they turn it off or take the gas out and
Speaker 1: then maybe we can talk, right. Yeah, it's it's so frustrating,
Speaker 1: and it's like and it's so frustrating to have like
Speaker 1: people in your life who were like, why aren't you like,
Speaker 1: come on, let's all, let's all hold hands, like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. It's like that's not that's not two
Speaker 1: weeks later language period, like if um, yeah, I need
Speaker 1: to I need to check in with my family member
Speaker 1: who went QUE and stopped talking to all of us.
Speaker 1: I wonder how she's doing today. Yeah. I mean there
Speaker 1: were people who are like on like extremism Twitter, and
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, if if someone reaches out to
Speaker 1: you who went Q and tries to come back, like
Speaker 1: trying maybe make it, if if it feels sincere, maybe
Speaker 1: you have a chance at it. But you never. But
Speaker 1: it's like, it's weird now that we're also finding, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to find like our empathy for these people who
Speaker 1: are completely lied to, but but the fallout of their
Speaker 1: misinformation diet was translating into direct violence. It's it's all
Speaker 1: like a very fucking weird. It feels like a fucking
Speaker 1: comic book where like like a Damon Lindeloff show or
Speaker 1: like we're having an out deal with all these people
Speaker 1: who are like wearing white all the time and not
Speaker 1: talking and smoking cigarettes. I'm like, okay, hey, um, you've
Speaker 1: done black pilling a second, let's be happy. I don't
Speaker 1: know who how do we? How do I do this?
Speaker 1: It's hard? Yeah, it's it's hard because you it's it's
Speaker 1: like it feels like basically impossible to it's it seems like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm off here, but just the way even the
Speaker 1: tone of like the embarrassing messages on those forums is like, oh,
Speaker 1: we were wrong, so like sorry are bad? Forgive us
Speaker 1: right away, and it's like that can't be how it goes.
Speaker 1: But then like how do you access your empathy to
Speaker 1: like they? But it's like it's I don't know, just
Speaker 1: the expectation of like, oh, whoop, sees, I have been
Speaker 1: part of a violent desk gult for four years and
Speaker 1: saying the most fucked up ship you can imagine and
Speaker 1: believing it and now whoops, I'm sorry, so you have
Speaker 1: to forgive me right away or I said it was wrong,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, it just feels like I don't know
Speaker 1: it just like forgive me, I'm gonna kill you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of like I don't know. Yeah, it's early doors process,
Speaker 1: it's early doors. It's only fucking I D plus one,
Speaker 1: so you know, guaranteed everyone's feelings are going to change
Speaker 1: on it. But yeah, I mean, I just think of
Speaker 1: how much things have shifted since the sixth of like
Speaker 1: our understanding of everything, like what the funk to like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is so putrid so yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can see a lot of journalists on
Speaker 1: Twitter right now who are like, if you've got cute
Speaker 1: relative of uh and you've checked it on, hit me up,
Speaker 1: trying to write an article on this right now. I
Speaker 1: think that's like every journalist is trying to New York
Speaker 1: Times wants to go to a Q diner to check
Speaker 1: in with all the Trump supporters. Can't wait for that
Speaker 1: episode of The Daily Yeah, we went to a que diner.
Speaker 1: It's like just or just don't. And they had some
Speaker 1: interesting thoughts, they had some pretty good ideas. They just
Speaker 1: wanted better efficient government. And it turns out that they're
Speaker 1: actually really sorry, yes, very sorry. Sorry. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back. And
Speaker 1: we're back, and in the theme of dealing with having
Speaker 1: stepped in ship and trying to you know, clean it off,
Speaker 1: we come to the story of Army Hammer, who has
Speaker 1: been in the headlines. You know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: sensationalist headlines about him being a cannibal and uh. But
Speaker 1: it also seems like the more you dig into it,
Speaker 1: the more it's a story of just a straight up abuser. Um.
Speaker 1: And so we are joined by superproducer on A. Hosni,
Speaker 1: who has been digging into this. Uh and yeah, Anna welcome.
Speaker 1: First of all, Hi, thanks for having me. Great to
Speaker 1: have you here. I say that as if I'm not
Speaker 1: always just sitting here. Yeah, the first time a long time. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: I mean this is one that we you know, first
Speaker 1: it first started hitting, was trending on social media a
Speaker 1: while back, but we wanted to do some research figure
Speaker 1: out what exactly was happening. Um. And it was something
Speaker 1: that popped up for you because you were already following
Speaker 1: the woman who came forward with the screen caps right
Speaker 1: of her. No. So I was following Armie Hammer on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and you know, I started to see all this stuff
Speaker 1: come out about him on Twitter where people were saying,
Speaker 1: you know, he's a cannibal and whatnot. And I was like, what, like,
Speaker 1: what a what a weird thing to be accused of.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm going I'm gonna look into it.
Speaker 1: I was. I was genuinely curious. I was like, is
Speaker 1: this person at cannibal like what he seems? So? And
Speaker 1: I had to say, he see, he seems very bland
Speaker 1: to me. Okay, I don't know exactly when I started
Speaker 1: following him on Instagram just at some point um, and
Speaker 1: so I was like, I'm I want to know more
Speaker 1: and I want to understand why all these people are
Speaker 1: talking about this. So I went deep. I went very deep.
Speaker 1: I went so deep that I I there were a
Speaker 1: few nights I struggled to sleep because of how much
Speaker 1: I read into this, Because at first it comes off
Speaker 1: as this like joke on Twitter of like ha, he's
Speaker 1: a cannibal, he can eat me, like all this stuff,
Speaker 1: of like he's so hot. I have no problem with that,
Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, you know, there's always some baseline
Speaker 1: that this is this is working from. So like I
Speaker 1: was like, I need to understand that further, and I
Speaker 1: to understand like are these jokes appropriate? Like I truly
Speaker 1: didn't know how I felt about them. You know, I
Speaker 1: started looking further at the screenshots. I looked more at
Speaker 1: the hashtags of his name on Twitter and on Instagram,
Speaker 1: and that took me to this woman's Twitter at House
Speaker 1: of Fi. Fi is e f f I E so
Speaker 1: house of Fi. I recommend following her yourself if you
Speaker 1: need to also go down this hole. It is very dark.
Speaker 1: Let me just warn you beforehand. And so I started
Speaker 1: following her, and she is the original person who accused
Speaker 1: him of not necessarily being a cannibal. That was just
Speaker 1: what he called himself in a screenshot he at one
Speaker 1: point where I'm houn to percent a cannibal. But she's
Speaker 1: the first one who accused him of basically creating an
Speaker 1: environment that led to her abuse by him. So she
Speaker 1: came out. She was of course attacked by people who
Speaker 1: um follow and support him by like posting screenshots saying
Speaker 1: that she's lying and all this stuff that she admitted
Speaker 1: to lying, but I guess there was just a lot
Speaker 1: of like photoshop work done to attack her further for
Speaker 1: coming out to talk about this abuse. But if you
Speaker 1: go and follow her on Instagram, which I did to
Speaker 1: further kind of understand what was happening. And you know,
Speaker 1: I I have a my first instinct, you have to
Speaker 1: believe the women, like I'm sorry, you know, you might
Speaker 1: see this person that you thought has been so bland
Speaker 1: your whole life and just like an actor who does
Speaker 1: interesting roles. But I feel like now more than ever,
Speaker 1: we've learned people are not who they appear to be.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to diagnose him. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on with him. He does seem to have
Speaker 1: a lack of care of the situation, like he has
Speaker 1: come out and called all these accusations bullshit. But it
Speaker 1: appears that Armie Hammer has a UM. He's into a
Speaker 1: kink known as c n C which is consensual non consent,
Speaker 1: and so he likes to engage in, you know, dom
Speaker 1: submissive relationships with women who um, I believe at the
Speaker 1: time are consenting to be in a relationship with him
Speaker 1: because he is who he is and he is very charming,
Speaker 1: and that unfortunately led to a bunch of women um
Speaker 1: being manipulated, gas lit and abused by him. And I
Speaker 1: know I'm not saying I'm not I'm not king shaming.
Speaker 1: C n C play it's also known as rape play.
Speaker 1: If if both parties are consenting to this, there is
Speaker 1: nothing wrong with that. That is their business. It's not
Speaker 1: our business to judge them for having this kink that
Speaker 1: they like to take part in. It is what it is.
Speaker 1: People enjoy certain things and they get off on certain
Speaker 1: things and situations like this too, it like ends up
Speaker 1: harming those entire communities and attacking like further stigmatic in
Speaker 1: communities for people who are like doing it safely and
Speaker 1: with consent and not fucking power trip. Right. So the
Speaker 1: problem with Armie Hammer that we learn in this screen,
Speaker 1: in these screenshots is he does not use safe words,
Speaker 1: which I've read further is if someone asks you to
Speaker 1: take part in something like this this sort of kink
Speaker 1: and does not allow you to have a safe word,
Speaker 1: huge red flag because you need to be able to
Speaker 1: protect yourself and you need your boundary set. It can
Speaker 1: lead to places that you can get hurt. You have
Speaker 1: to be able to say no and have the other
Speaker 1: person here you. So he does not work with safe words.
Speaker 1: He also did not provide much after care for these women,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm going to get a little graphic.
Speaker 1: This included putting a belt around their neck and clasping it,
Speaker 1: you know, cutting them with knives and sucking their blood
Speaker 1: like very cannibalistic things that have been you know, like
Speaker 1: dropped out because of like the media loves to pick
Speaker 1: these little nug gets. Like one of his ex girlfriends.
Speaker 1: She's an app founder the flash d app. I'm not
Speaker 1: really that familiar with the app, Courtney Vussakovic. She came
Speaker 1: out and talked to Page six about her relationship with
Speaker 1: Armie Hammer Um and how it basically led her having
Speaker 1: to go into a program for PTSD and trauma after
Speaker 1: dating him because it was just such an unhealthy, toxic relationship.
Speaker 1: The headline of her article said that he wanted to
Speaker 1: barbecue and eat me. That's missing the point, Like there
Speaker 1: was serious abuse going on, and that's what the mainstream
Speaker 1: media picked up, you know, so like a lot of
Speaker 1: that is happening, and we need to really focus in
Speaker 1: on the actual abuse, the gas lighting, the manipulation, um,
Speaker 1: the lack of care for these women that he's engaging in.
Speaker 1: The CNC play with and house of Effie is the
Speaker 1: one who kind of she came out and kind of
Speaker 1: spearheaded this conversation, but many women have reached out to her,
Speaker 1: and she's posted a lot of anonymous screenshots of other women.
Speaker 1: So it looks like there is a giant group of women,
Speaker 1: most of them who are too afraid to come out
Speaker 1: due to the fact that there is, you know, an
Speaker 1: a power dynamic of Army Hammer being an actor and
Speaker 1: having power and having a group of people working for
Speaker 1: him to try and silence these accusations. So if you
Speaker 1: don't take our word for it, because you're like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, he seems this this or that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, like go go look at it yourself, Like
Speaker 1: when there are hundreds of screenshots telling you this person
Speaker 1: is abusing these women, I mean, I don't know. Like
Speaker 1: to me, it's pretty clear cut, like this man is
Speaker 1: an abuser. He's a serial abuser. There's many women have
Speaker 1: come forward. A lot of them have spoken out about
Speaker 1: the trauma they experience in the fact that they would
Speaker 1: have to go to the e R to deal with
Speaker 1: certain situations that he put them in, and the fact
Speaker 1: that he only commented on one thing, which is this
Speaker 1: is bullshit. I will not take these accusations seriously, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then now it's like the the
Speaker 1: the narrative is kind of me back around to him
Speaker 1: giving this half ast apology, and it seems like the
Speaker 1: only thing he's really going to be taken to account
Speaker 1: for is dropping out of a fucking rom com. Like
Speaker 1: it's even I especially I find the yeah, the media
Speaker 1: angles that this has taken to be ridiculous, Like as
Speaker 1: frustrating as it is to see the cannibal memes and
Speaker 1: all this ship, it's like it's because of the headlines
Speaker 1: that are being written, like no one is reading these
Speaker 1: entire stories, and the fact that you are pulling out
Speaker 1: the most shocking thing about it and ignoring the fact
Speaker 1: that this is not funny. This is and I think
Speaker 1: that Army Hammer benefits from people doing it, from people
Speaker 1: making it like what a weird guy, why would you
Speaker 1: do this, instead of saying like Army Hammer has been
Speaker 1: incredibly accused of horrific abuse, Like it's all the headlines
Speaker 1: that you read, even when you google his name is
Speaker 1: all just like end those horrific d ms. It's like
Speaker 1: that's where they just sort of ice a late that
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, he's on the loose with the d
Speaker 1: m s and yeah, completely. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: the strength of coming from a you know, dynastic wealthy family,
Speaker 1: although I don't know he doesn't have access to that
Speaker 1: money anymore, but like or that machine of just like
Speaker 1: because it's almost like you like what you're saying. You
Speaker 1: look at him, and we have this media fed like
Speaker 1: idea that like the blonde haired, blue eyed white man
Speaker 1: is virtuous and like there's a lot of hurdles to
Speaker 1: get over to be like that guy is actually just
Speaker 1: just uh um, perpetrating heinous abuse. Yeah, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know what. I don't know what it's going to
Speaker 1: take for the conversation to change. It's almost like the
Speaker 1: cannibal thing is working on the same level he was
Speaker 1: working on to like kind of smoke screen his abuse,
Speaker 1: where like the idea of Kank and b D s
Speaker 1: M is a screen and that's like the story focuses
Speaker 1: on the cannibal ism and not the fact that women
Speaker 1: who were in relationships with him said they were abusive relationships,
Speaker 1: and like that's kind of how he was working where
Speaker 1: he was like, no, I'm just like a kicky guy
Speaker 1: who is into these like very specific types of arrangements,
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, that's how you are screening, probably
Speaker 1: from yourself and from others the fact that you're an abuser.
Speaker 1: Like this GQ headline sums up the inability of like
Speaker 1: men to hold each other accountable. I mean, assuming you
Speaker 1: know Gentlemen's Quarterly, But like the headline is army Hammer
Speaker 1: cannibalism allegations. How common is a cannibalism fetish? Which is
Speaker 1: like so besides the point, it's still such a thing
Speaker 1: where it's the way that these stories, like I it's
Speaker 1: going back to what you're saying, and it's just like
Speaker 1: who who are we believing and why are we believing
Speaker 1: them versus why aren't we believing other victims? And what
Speaker 1: does that say about like where we're at in terms
Speaker 1: of actually believing victims of abuse. And it seems like
Speaker 1: part of the reason no one was believing um house
Speaker 1: of Effi at the first at first is because she
Speaker 1: didn't have any power and no one knew who she was,
Speaker 1: and so it was very easy, especially when it's someone
Speaker 1: who doesn't have a ton of cloud and power. That
Speaker 1: seems to be one of the only ways to really
Speaker 1: get your story out in a meaningful way. And I
Speaker 1: find that so fucking bleak because it's like, here are
Speaker 1: a ton of women who have credible, you know, accusations
Speaker 1: against this guy, but none of them are, you know,
Speaker 1: have a ton of power. And and you always see
Speaker 1: these kind of contrarians being like, well then why didn't
Speaker 1: they like bring it to the media, white like, for
Speaker 1: all we know they fucking did. It is so hard
Speaker 1: to get stories like that reported. There are so many
Speaker 1: stories about famous men that have almost gotten reported and
Speaker 1: then they get pulled at the last second for whatever
Speaker 1: fucking reason. And I feel like, especially after, like it
Speaker 1: was so upsetting, but all so um, I don't when
Speaker 1: when FKA Twigs came out against shy Ala buff like
Speaker 1: last month, that was a huge thing and and and
Speaker 1: I think it certainly helped that she had some power
Speaker 1: in that situation. She she you know, people listen to
Speaker 1: what she said because she has a certain amount of
Speaker 1: cloud and she has a certain amount of people who
Speaker 1: are going to listen to what she has to say.
Speaker 1: But I don't think that that is always extended to
Speaker 1: just normal people who are like so often the victims
Speaker 1: of abuse. I just fucking hate it, man, Like, if
Speaker 1: you ever have the thought in your head, like why
Speaker 1: didn't they just bring it to the media, it's because
Speaker 1: it's fucking impossible. It's literally fucking impossible. As someone who
Speaker 1: has tried time and time again to get stories like
Speaker 1: this broken, it is, it's it's a miracle when it
Speaker 1: actually happens. So yeah, it is so Also another big
Speaker 1: thing is like when people say why didn't they leave,
Speaker 1: why didn't they stop? It's not simple like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're talking out of person who aid on Also younger,
Speaker 1: more vulnerable people, Like when you're stuck in this sort
Speaker 1: of toxic relationship, it's not like it's not easy. There's
Speaker 1: nothing easy about it. It's not so black and white,
Speaker 1: like you can't just be like, I don't know, that
Speaker 1: may be uncomfortable. I'm out. Some people might be able to,
Speaker 1: but some people cannot. So you have to respect that
Speaker 1: they're in their own position trying to figure something out.
Speaker 1: And it looked like it took the House of Effie
Speaker 1: years to come out about this, years to try and
Speaker 1: discuss this, and I think a lot of the women
Speaker 1: still feel like they can't come out about it because
Speaker 1: they're so scared, because the power dynamics are so unbalanced,
Speaker 1: Like you can't, I don't know. You can't blame these
Speaker 1: people for, you know, not being able to get out
Speaker 1: of a toxic situation on top of them, you can't
Speaker 1: on top of that, you can't blame them for not
Speaker 1: being able to come forward sooner the second it happened.
Speaker 1: You know, it's just you're you're putting in an impossible
Speaker 1: situation and it takes a lot of strength to put
Speaker 1: yourself forward. Like House of Effie did um. We don't
Speaker 1: know this woman like we don't know her name exactly,
Speaker 1: Like she is keeping herself private for a reason while
Speaker 1: at the same time being followed by almost seventy people,
Speaker 1: and yet this is still not mainstream news. Seventy people
Speaker 1: are reading what she's writing and following her, and yet
Speaker 1: still not mainstream news. It's just something about how like
Speaker 1: he's got a fetish Yeah, yeah, it's just it's just like,
Speaker 1: I mean, these headlines I feel like just say everything
Speaker 1: about like, well is this you know, I hope that
Speaker 1: this story continues to get like actually responsibly covered, but
Speaker 1: so far there's just fucking I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: we have these sort of inabilities to describe things as
Speaker 1: they are. We have a media apparatus that isn't equipped
Speaker 1: to talk about consent, to talk about abuse, to talk
Speaker 1: about white supremacy, to talk about a lot of these things.
Speaker 1: So like it ends up and it's like, oh, some
Speaker 1: charged language from the president because you don't you don't
Speaker 1: have the actual critical thinking or the experience to look
Speaker 1: at it and say, oh, no, this is I need
Speaker 1: to describe this as it is rather than like euphemistically,
Speaker 1: because there's a pattern, I guess in the culture of
Speaker 1: like reporting on these things in this country to be
Speaker 1: very euphemistic and yeah, like it's the like the balance
Speaker 1: of headlines that are actually you can tell they're trying
Speaker 1: to indicate like their elements of abuse allegations in this
Speaker 1: story that actually need to be looked at, and ones
Speaker 1: that are like whoa like wild man Army Hammer admits
Speaker 1: to secret Instagram account that's two days ago, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And it's weird because this a lot
Speaker 1: of these are also coming from like the tabloids who
Speaker 1: like we're loving him before, you know what I mean, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: look at him, he's like wow, bla, we love picturesque
Speaker 1: family that you can tell like they're it's like they're
Speaker 1: having trouble putting this person down or like understanding how
Speaker 1: severe the situation is versus just pivoting to like the
Speaker 1: easy headline that sort of ignores how serious something is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I also just want to say to me, like
Speaker 1: the most telling thing is just kind of the lack
Speaker 1: of shame coming from him, like he all these screenshots
Speaker 1: were looking at their from his verified Instagram account. He
Speaker 1: doesn't care, like he's I don't know what his situation is. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to diagnose this guy. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: like his actions are also very telling to me, like
Speaker 1: he's just kind of acting like, well shit, And to me,
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, if I was accused of abusing someone
Speaker 1: and I look, who knows how how i'd react, but
Speaker 1: I would react. I don't know. Like to me, it
Speaker 1: feels like I don't know what this guy's deal is,
Speaker 1: but it feels so flippant the way he's acting about it.
Speaker 1: And that's like and I'm truly going off what I've
Speaker 1: read in the tabloids of how people have been seeing
Speaker 1: him acting. So I don't Again, I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: But like to me, it's like that's that's not good.
Speaker 1: We shouldn't have someone who's so like that's a scary thing,
Speaker 1: Like that's a scary person to be out on the streets,
Speaker 1: like to me in my opinion, because like it makes
Speaker 1: me incredibly uncomfortable. Again, like I told you, when I
Speaker 1: first dive deep into this, it fucked me up. You
Speaker 1: you just you you feel like you just never know
Speaker 1: who people are. And this situation just has scared me
Speaker 1: in a way of like who are these people hiding
Speaker 1: in plain sight? And we should be more diligent and
Speaker 1: pointing out abuse like this because we need to protect people,
Speaker 1: and we need to protect women who again women we
Speaker 1: get murdered by men. Like it's not even a joke
Speaker 1: like this that we don't know what could have possibly
Speaker 1: happened between Army and these women. We don't know anything.
Speaker 1: There could be women who are so truly abused that
Speaker 1: cannot speak out, Like I feel like this is there's
Speaker 1: this is just like truly the tip of the iceberg
Speaker 1: in my eyes, Like I hope more women can come out,
Speaker 1: but it's a dark place. And I just also want
Speaker 1: to point out when you are tweeting this kind of
Speaker 1: stuff of like he can eat me, Like you're doing
Speaker 1: that in spite of these women who suffered abuse from him,
Speaker 1: So just think about that before you just call him
Speaker 1: accounibal and try and laugh about it, because like I
Speaker 1: can't even imagine what these women are going through. And
Speaker 1: how like much of a meme this turned into, like yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm sorry, I've been deep guys, and uh, I
Speaker 1: just want this to be taken seriously. Yeah, And it's
Speaker 1: also like a very harsh reminder that there that there
Speaker 1: are only certain kinds of victims of abuse who are
Speaker 1: made space for in the media, and even that is new,
Speaker 1: like having space for victims of abuse at all, but
Speaker 1: this story just clearly indicates that there is not you
Speaker 1: know that there it's I feel like there's just still
Speaker 1: a lot of attention given to quote unquote the perfect
Speaker 1: victim and there that's not how it works, That's not
Speaker 1: how the majority of abuse goes. And just like educate
Speaker 1: yourself on this ship because this, like this media narrative
Speaker 1: is helping to really just army or his career should
Speaker 1: be fucking over, but all he had to do is
Speaker 1: drop out of a single movie, Like it's it if
Speaker 1: his career rebounds from this I'm fucking joke or flying
Speaker 1: um Yeah, yeah, I mean that that also goes back
Speaker 1: to kind of one of the like just the amount
Speaker 1: of incentive that is there for you know, each each
Speaker 1: actor at this level is kind of their own like
Speaker 1: corporation that has like people whose entire job is to
Speaker 1: make sure they get that next role so they can
Speaker 1: get like, uh, their next paycheck, and so they're you know,
Speaker 1: I think one of the tweets was, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: he benefits from the most nepotism, Yeah person can benefit from,
Speaker 1: right he is Yeah, he comes from generational wealth. He
Speaker 1: comes from that whole like level of privilege and just
Speaker 1: removal from any sorts of consequences or the reality that
Speaker 1: the rest of us deal with. Um, he's a six
Speaker 1: four like good looking guys, so he has that going
Speaker 1: like that against his ability to experience reality. And then
Speaker 1: he has an entire you know, a company of people
Speaker 1: around him who are working around the clock to make
Speaker 1: sure that he is marketable. So like, it's just the
Speaker 1: levels are incredible. Uh, and yeah, thank you an A
Speaker 1: for you know, doing the research and coming on. Of course,
Speaker 1: I want to had one thing now, you know, after
Speaker 1: having watched Call Me by Your Name and really thinking
Speaker 1: about it in retrospect, it does come off as a
Speaker 1: movie that is about grooming and for be a young
Speaker 1: man to be the like love interest of this older man.
Speaker 1: And I don't know, these things are not sitting right
Speaker 1: with me anymore now that I'm making all these connections.
Speaker 1: I don't like this, and I think we need to
Speaker 1: pay attention to that. I mean to pay attention to
Speaker 1: the work they're making and be like, well, what's going
Speaker 1: on here? Because like I'm just saying, we need to
Speaker 1: be asking questions even when your army hammer. You don't
Speaker 1: just get away with it. There has to be a
Speaker 1: ton of complicitness going on around you, um, in order
Speaker 1: for things to stay quiet this long. Like it's yeah,
Speaker 1: are so depressing because you just you know that there's
Speaker 1: just so many of these stories that literally cannot get
Speaker 1: out because of the systems that, um that kind of
Speaker 1: keep victims oppressed or keep them scared. Yeah. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: whould have thought the great grandson of a guy who
Speaker 1: is just blowing up the coal, just making a bunch
Speaker 1: of coal, pumping gas like friends with Al Gore's dad. Uh, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, like leads to a culture where I guess,
Speaker 1: like it's it. There's like there's funnels for a lot
Speaker 1: of these people to end up like the way they are.
Speaker 1: But like when you look at this, you're like this
Speaker 1: just looks you know, when there are people who walk
Speaker 1: around here thinking they can do whatever the funk they want,
Speaker 1: and they're they're in environments where they see that there
Speaker 1: are very little consequences for their actions, and then it
Speaker 1: gets to places like this too. And also just like
Speaker 1: you're saying, and there's also just a lack of accountability
Speaker 1: with other people who are again don't want to rock
Speaker 1: the boat or whatever. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're putting someone else at risks
Speaker 1: just to save yourself the discomfort of saying what's right
Speaker 1: or or actually protecting somebody. Yeah, they think they can
Speaker 1: get away with it, and for centuries they have literally
Speaker 1: and even I mean especially with like I guarantee, if
Speaker 1: he gets called out on this, which he probably won't,
Speaker 1: he will say, I'm sorry, make a donation, call it
Speaker 1: a day, and not change his behavior because that's just
Speaker 1: how people fucking work. That's like every person who worked
Speaker 1: with Woody Allen in the last you know, five to
Speaker 1: ten fucking years, if they get called out on it
Speaker 1: and they're like, ops, my bad, I'm so oh you noticed,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm gonna give you know, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: a thousand dollars to this place, and then, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't need to answer and I don't need to
Speaker 1: think about this critically, just like ah saw that, huh,
Speaker 1: like you fucking knew when you worked with you know,
Speaker 1: Woody Allen in you fucking ship head, Like it just
Speaker 1: is so the the level of disingenuousness. It's not shocking,
Speaker 1: but it's just sometimes it's so playgrant. It's just yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah on a where can people find you? Follow you? Here?
Speaker 1: You all that good stuff. Um, I'm at Anna host
Speaker 1: n A on Twitter. But again, if you want to, um,
Speaker 1: learn more about what's going on. But it's very serious
Speaker 1: trigger warning. This is very very dark subject matter. You
Speaker 1: can follow at House of f E that's E F
Speaker 1: f I E on Instagram. Just request you will. You
Speaker 1: will learn a lot about what's going on. And uh yeah,
Speaker 1: just you know, remember to believe women. Okay, just believe women.
Speaker 1: A lot happens behind closed doors, and this the way
Speaker 1: we react to it is why people do or don't
Speaker 1: speak out to talk about their own abuse. So it's
Speaker 1: very important to give space. And I know it sounds
Speaker 1: like very therapy talk, but it is. We have to
Speaker 1: give space for these kind of things, not therapy. It's
Speaker 1: just like I need people to feel comfortable speak out
Speaker 1: about their abuse. So but also therapy for society too. Yes,
Speaker 1: we do need therapy. I guess all the same thing. Jamie,
Speaker 1: where can people find you and follow you? You can
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter dot com at Jamie Loftus help Instagram,
Speaker 1: Jamie christ Superstar and listen to Lialia podcast. Yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: where is there a tweeter some of the work of
Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying. Yeah, there are two inauguration
Speaker 1: tweets that I like to The first one I was
Speaker 1: Julio Taurus who said, uh, he's quoting Amy Klovichar. Uh,
Speaker 1: well that was great Amy Klovichar, right after j LO saying,
Speaker 1: which it did fully happen. And then this one, this
Speaker 1: is hard to describe, but it's okay. This is from
Speaker 1: Sarah Camplin. Uh. It's a picture of her cat as
Speaker 1: j LO saying let's get loud and the cat wakes up.
Speaker 1: I'd hope it's really funny. Let's get loud. Really Uh,
Speaker 1: you know it's sustained. It really sustained me. And let's
Speaker 1: get loud everybody. I mean, yes, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is, whatever that means to you, Let's get loud.
Speaker 1: Oh I love a vague platitude. Anyways, those are my tweets.
Speaker 1: Miles where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter,
Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray. Uh. Also for fiance a
Speaker 1: four some ninety day talk. Some tweets that I like
Speaker 1: one is from the at Q and on Anonymous from
Speaker 1: the Q and on Anonymous podcast, they tuted I trusted
Speaker 1: the plan and all I got was this stupid feeling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you hate to see it. Also, another one
Speaker 1: is from at Out from the Zone. It's a picture
Speaker 1: because you know, Lady Gaga and j Lo like greeted
Speaker 1: the National Guard like on their way into the Capitol,
Speaker 1: just you know, to make nice and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: But there's this photo where like it's Lady Gaga like
Speaker 1: in her very like this cool white thing. It's not
Speaker 1: like her the dress you war to sing. It's got
Speaker 1: some like white cape code on standing upright, and there's
Speaker 1: like these soldiers like like right across from her. And
Speaker 1: the caption is find Brittney Spears free her like this
Speaker 1: like they are like, yes, okay, thank you, Lady Gaga.
Speaker 1: Will I had one? I had that same picture, Bring
Speaker 1: the National Guards done this year right that that picture
Speaker 1: caption by Mike Tag Find Madonna bring her to me. Everyone.
Speaker 1: Everyone's gotta take on that one. Uh. I'll just I
Speaker 1: liked Brendan o'har's tweet Biden finds left behind baron Trump
Speaker 1: wandering the White Hall, White house Halls. Hey man, that's all. Uh.
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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as the song we ride out on miles,
Speaker 1: What are we riding into this post world? Too much pressure?
Speaker 1: Time to roll up? You know that fucking pack Let
Speaker 1: him know, goodbye, good raidings, rolled up your career. This
Speaker 1: track is called rolled Up from Many Sings in Mac
Speaker 1: DeMarco and it's just nice and easy. Just put it on.
Speaker 1: Do what you ever, do what you do to relax,
Speaker 1: you know, rub your own feet, rub your partner's feet, uh,
Speaker 1: sip of something, but yeah, just take a fucking deep breath, y'all. Uh.
Speaker 1: It was what an awful, awful period. And for those
Speaker 1: of y'all who got more focused on what is happening
Speaker 1: in our world, thank you, because the more people that
Speaker 1: are doing that, it will help ensure a better outcome
Speaker 1: for all people. So uh, take a deep breath, and
Speaker 1: well keep on, keep it on, really right? Hey, are
Speaker 1: you gonna go bold? I'm gonna go extremely bold. Yeah,
Speaker 1: where they put I'm gonna dare I say, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get loud. That's all you're gonna say. You're just gonna
Speaker 1: get to the ordering windows, say let's get loud, and
Speaker 1: they're just they're like say less. All right, all right,
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Speaker 1: There you are all. I got a baby Chad this
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