Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one sixty nine,
Speaker 1: Episode four of j Dailies. Nice to production of I
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness. Is Thursday, January one.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien, a K I show my thighs.
Speaker 1: I'm blind. The guests here to record the pod. That's
Speaker 1: the best because my name is Jack O'Brien. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: host the pod called Daily's I Geist that is courtesy
Speaker 1: of Johnny Davis off of Spirit in the Sky, which
Speaker 1: we discussed on yesterday's episode. Uh, and I'm thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined as always buy my co host, Mr Miles Grady.
Speaker 1: Day is the greatest day. Yeah tomorrow because Chomp's are gone.
Speaker 1: We one in him out so he voted him da
Speaker 1: da damn boom dapped. When the song goes, shout out
Speaker 1: to copy Colisi on Twitter for that Billy Korg smash
Speaker 1: Pumpy a k a um yeah great. My friends sister
Speaker 1: was in that video. Yo. That ship was legendary at
Speaker 1: my school. They're like your carries in the video in
Speaker 1: the wheel in the Rubber Tiger. Were you uh you
Speaker 1: were a smash Puppy. Uh when the Smash Pumpies were
Speaker 1: out there were you Yeah, yeah, for sure, I think,
Speaker 1: and then Melancholy and the Infinite Sadness Broo when I
Speaker 1: had some heartaches in college, fucking screaming at my radio
Speaker 1: to that one. But then, you know, after that, not
Speaker 1: not much. I haven't really kept up with them since
Speaker 1: Billy Corgan went took a right turn, Yeah hard right. Yeah. Uh, Well,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined by the hilarious and
Speaker 1: talented Mr Mike Drucker. Hello, Hello. I didn't know singing
Speaker 1: would be involved, so I didn't plan anything. Well that's
Speaker 1: that now we started off on the wrong foot. I
Speaker 1: did kind of though, like I kind of wanted. I
Speaker 1: thought it would be funny if you guys just kept
Speaker 1: switching back and forth between songs and never introduced me
Speaker 1: like you did that for ninety minutes. It was just
Speaker 1: a huge prank. And then we just and the show
Speaker 1: and we're like, so, what do you think, man, any
Speaker 1: of those any good? Can we sell those? Yea A awards?
Speaker 1: What do you think from that perspective? Variety Award? Off
Speaker 1: that off the trink of that? Oh man, that trophy
Speaker 1: is so ugly it's such an ugly trophy. Uh, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you for being on. I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: you on Twitter, which is a platform we are both on. Uh.
Speaker 1: We are going we're going to get to know you
Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment, and h I'm
Speaker 1: going to ask you to explain the stock market to me. H,
Speaker 1: just bare bones. But first we're gonna talk about a
Speaker 1: couple of things we're talking about. In addition to Reddit
Speaker 1: coming for Wall Street uh and me just failing to
Speaker 1: understand how that works, We're gonna talk about acquittal two
Speaker 1: fascist boogaloo, where we're standing on that. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about Foxes strategy, how they're what their angle is heading
Speaker 1: into the Biden administration. The James Bond movie is being
Speaker 1: delayed again, so we'll talk about that. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: Ellen maybe uh if we get to it. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about the Hall of Presidents at Disney World, all of
Speaker 1: that plenty more. But first, Mike, we like to ask
Speaker 1: our guests, what is something from your search history that's
Speaker 1: revealing about who you are? My? Uh, okay, so I
Speaker 1: released a book about a video game yester, and so
Speaker 1: my last few searches are like Mike Drucker Silent Hill
Speaker 1: to Mike Drucker Silent Hill to reviews. So it's really narcissism,
Speaker 1: Like my most recent search history is narcissism about whether
Speaker 1: people hate a book about a video game or not. Right.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I was gonna say the Silent Hill too.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like everybody likes it based on
Speaker 1: I've seen passively about your writings on what you I mean,
Speaker 1: Silent Hill two is one of those games where like
Speaker 1: I didn't realize what I had till after the fact. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that's exactly right. It's so good. Yeah, and like, yeah
Speaker 1: I haven't I'm I'm definitely gonna read it. Part of
Speaker 1: me was like, damn, I should have asked him that
Speaker 1: I wanted to read that ship before he came on.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I'm so. People like it. People are working
Speaker 1: with the vision. Um do you think but for something
Speaker 1: like when you write about a video game that you
Speaker 1: love and like its place, Yeah, other people's opinions, can
Speaker 1: they really affect you at that point because you have
Speaker 1: to be so like you're like, you're so secure and
Speaker 1: what's your statement is that it's like I've got that
Speaker 1: out here, You're not seeing the matrix like I am, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: some sometimes, I mean it also sometimes helps you expand
Speaker 1: a bit. Like you know, there's times I've seen people's
Speaker 1: opinions where I'm like, oh, I didn't think of that
Speaker 1: specific thing, and that's a good point. So it doesn't
Speaker 1: like make me dislike it. It's not like if someone's
Speaker 1: like this game, Like a lot of the reviews at
Speaker 1: the time it came out were kind of lukewarm and
Speaker 1: saying it wasn't as good as the first one. So
Speaker 1: it doesn't affect my opinion. But I do like hearing
Speaker 1: what other people think because it was a divisive game
Speaker 1: at the time. And the name of the book is
Speaker 1: Silent Hill too. You just went with you just kind
Speaker 1: of you just like kind of pitched the idea of
Speaker 1: the book to to our listeners real quick. Oh sure,
Speaker 1: Um it's this. Uh, A lot of listeners might be
Speaker 1: more familiar with those thirty three and the third books,
Speaker 1: and each one's about a specific album, and this is
Speaker 1: kind of that. But it's a line of books called
Speaker 1: Boss Fight Books, and each book is about a different
Speaker 1: video game. Um. So this is the seven book in
Speaker 1: the series and the only one I've written. Just to
Speaker 1: be clear, I didn't write all twenty seven right, nice?
Speaker 1: All right? What is something you think is underrated? Um? Underrated?
Speaker 1: I think are like desk accessories. I think people just
Speaker 1: throw random things on their desk, and I think you
Speaker 1: really need to cultivate it. If you have like fifty
Speaker 1: fun copops, it's bad. If you have nothing on your desk,
Speaker 1: you look crazy. It's it's a really careful cultivation process
Speaker 1: that I'm still working on. Yeah, I don't know why
Speaker 1: that was my first thought, but it was. I think
Speaker 1: because I'm always in my bedroom at my desk that
Speaker 1: I'm like, I spend so much time thinking about this, yeah,
Speaker 1: looking at the same thing. Basically, I think that is
Speaker 1: your reality as the desk exactly what do you? Well?
Speaker 1: What do you have on your desk? Let's do a
Speaker 1: little show and tell. What do you go? Let's see
Speaker 1: show and tell. All right, Now it's a little messy
Speaker 1: now because I moved things around to set up to record,
Speaker 1: But I have a Ninja Turtles little melted pops. Whoa
Speaker 1: got got that I got? Let's see? I have a
Speaker 1: card board Nintendo Labo keyboard ship damn ye yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and then I have a fact man O whoa wow.
Speaker 1: So I get it, we get it. We're not going
Speaker 1: to question your game, your interest in gaming based on
Speaker 1: ye please don't question that. That is the one thing
Speaker 1: you can solidly say in your eighties and nineties baby culture,
Speaker 1: with the with the with the teenage mutant industry ice cream.
Speaker 1: I have uh weed weed yep, good, good good weed yep.
Speaker 1: Also good a grinder, honestly all better than mine. So
Speaker 1: far this is better than mine. Then I have a
Speaker 1: miniature sloth in which is also weed, yeah, which is
Speaker 1: a weed. And then it's uh, this thing that's like
Speaker 1: a snail but it has an ed a mom a
Speaker 1: thing as it's show. Is that a is that art?
Speaker 1: Is that like something? I got it out of a
Speaker 1: gotcha machine in Japan? So gotchap was like a It's
Speaker 1: like a thing you get in Japan. You put like
Speaker 1: a hundred yen two hundred yen and you twisted out
Speaker 1: a plastic toy comes out. And when I go out there,
Speaker 1: you know, on my annual trips, I'm typically have a
Speaker 1: handful of change, and I'm like, let's say, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hit this gotch up on really quick. And so I
Speaker 1: got this slot and my little snail and so those
Speaker 1: are like art pieces next to my weed. Um, I
Speaker 1: guess it's up to me now to complete the I've
Speaker 1: got a roll of tape, yeah, uh, got an empty
Speaker 1: coffee uh, some rolled up paper towel, pack of gum glasses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so nailing it. And also a old Mac that I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to uh clear off. But oh that iMac from
Speaker 1: two thousand fucking that was my first computer when I
Speaker 1: started correct was this computer and it's it. I just
Speaker 1: plugged it in for the first time in like twelve years,
Speaker 1: and it still works and has all this stuff on it.
Speaker 1: So I think we're we're gonna give it away but
Speaker 1: clear it off. Yeah. I feel like old Max weirdly
Speaker 1: do well on eBay. Like people. I feel like I
Speaker 1: looked up like an old laptop once and they don't
Speaker 1: like go full price or anything, but they I feel
Speaker 1: like they go weirdly well on eBay. Huh. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: had somebody I for like a production I did. I
Speaker 1: had an old iMac like an o G like Launch
Speaker 1: when they have flavors. I had a blueberry iMac that
Speaker 1: I my mom just does not throw sh it away,
Speaker 1: And I remember I needed a prop for this like
Speaker 1: video we were doing. I was like, oh, let me
Speaker 1: get this. I had three people at this convention offer
Speaker 1: me cash for it. It was like exorbitant sums of money.
Speaker 1: But three people were like, oh my god, that can
Speaker 1: I can I buy that off of you. I love
Speaker 1: like old like retro turn of the century max stuff century.
Speaker 1: When I was in Denmark, I went to the design
Speaker 1: of like Danish design museum, the iMac is in their
Speaker 1: line an exhibit like to be like heralded as like
Speaker 1: this real like turning point in design. So I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: Like maybe maybe we were sleeping on that. But I
Speaker 1: need I need some This is a new desk for
Speaker 1: me in the past like a few weeks, and I
Speaker 1: need to I need to spruce it up a little bit,
Speaker 1: give it a little bit of personality. Right now, it
Speaker 1: is purely task oriented and garbage oriented. Uh. I also
Speaker 1: have a just really like old Ralph's shopping bags that
Speaker 1: I throw my trash and just hanging from the mic stand.
Speaker 1: Uh So really I'm not I'm not following the path
Speaker 1: that one should be to keep their space from polluting
Speaker 1: their brain. Um, but hey, this is a good reminder
Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. Mike, what is something you think
Speaker 1: is overrated? Um? I had trouble thinking of something that's overrated.
Speaker 1: But one thing that I think is overrated because I'm
Speaker 1: scared of it's owning a house. I feel like I'd
Speaker 1: rather prefer to think of it as like that's overrated
Speaker 1: then actually engage in something that terrifies me. I'm big too, honestly,
Speaker 1: like Star Wars, like it said, I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, having a baby is that overrated? Let's talk
Speaker 1: about it? Yeah, I'm going to I'm sorry. The city
Speaker 1: are you in, Mike, New York? I'm in New York? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I feel like, did you where did you grow up?
Speaker 1: I grew up in South Florida though, okay, so because
Speaker 1: I feel like I know like people who like I
Speaker 1: have friends who grew up in New York who have
Speaker 1: the very like that block of like home thing. But
Speaker 1: it has the city changed your outlook on that, Like
Speaker 1: has that influenced your feeling of it being overrated? Or
Speaker 1: I think it's more that my parents were bad with
Speaker 1: money when I was a kid, and so for me,
Speaker 1: I was always like, what's the point of doing this?
Speaker 1: It still seems like it doesn't you know, it seems
Speaker 1: like you don't really own the house, not realizing my
Speaker 1: parents were very bad with money at that moment that
Speaker 1: it wasn't like it wasn't just like the bank showing
Speaker 1: up being like, hey guys, we decided we wanted back right,
Speaker 1: this is overrated mom. As a kid, that's how I
Speaker 1: felt like. I was almost like, why do we all?
Speaker 1: Why did you buy this? So I think it's like
Speaker 1: it's less than it is really overrated, but something that
Speaker 1: like in my fad almost I always had a mental
Speaker 1: block on and I'm like, no, nobody, that's not real. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I just love that idea. Yeah they I don't know
Speaker 1: why they kept making the same mistake. Really, that's how
Speaker 1: I felt. Well, that's also the speaks of the power
Speaker 1: of like how much of our financial literacy and idea
Speaker 1: of finances just comes from our parents. Like I have
Speaker 1: parents who didn't make a lot of money but also
Speaker 1: didn't talk about it, so I just grew up being
Speaker 1: like I don't know, I think you work and then
Speaker 1: and then like you could have a kid, but I
Speaker 1: can't always have new shoes, so there's level to it.
Speaker 1: But no one's like you gotta save and my dad
Speaker 1: like not until I was out of college, and I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, man, like the second I got married,
Speaker 1: I started to save him for your college. I was like, what,
Speaker 1: I never you didn't tell me. I'm I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: with nine thousand dollar sneakers on and you're telling me
Speaker 1: now I gotta say, fuck, I'm all fucked up nine dollars.
Speaker 1: I don't have no nine times. Well do you think
Speaker 1: I was at the fucking inauguration and those deal with
Speaker 1: Jordan's no. Uh, yeah, I'm fully financially illiterate, as we're
Speaker 1: about to learn when we discuss uh, wall Street, you
Speaker 1: didn't big on games to the point that I'm very
Speaker 1: similar with Wall Street. I like resent wall Street. I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is all just like made up lingo bullshit fuck off.
Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of America's that way.
Speaker 1: And that's where uh, some of this is coming from.
Speaker 1: But let's take a quick break and we'll come back
Speaker 1: and talk about that and we're back. Uh. And So
Speaker 1: I read an article this morning, which is where my
Speaker 1: entire understanding of this comes from, on Bloomberg dot Com
Speaker 1: that uh covers this story from a Wall Street perspective
Speaker 1: with like amused tolerance. It's like they keep commenting on
Speaker 1: the juvenile tone of the subreddit and making fun of
Speaker 1: the spelling errors. But zoom out real quick, let people
Speaker 1: know what we're even tough because most people like this
Speaker 1: only started beginning. People started talking about the last day,
Speaker 1: and if you're not fully your ear to the internet,
Speaker 1: you might not know what happened. Right, So, yeah, Miles,
Speaker 1: the floor is yours. Why don't you explain? Yeah, as
Speaker 1: the resident guy who just admitted he knows funk all
Speaker 1: about finances, I'm gonna toss this pot potato over to
Speaker 1: Michael Drucker. Hello, Hello, Uh Now, keep in mind that
Speaker 1: I'm going explain some of this wrong so someone will
Speaker 1: listen to this and go, that's not what's happening, and
Speaker 1: that's okay. You're right and you have been so. Basically,
Speaker 1: game Stop, the stock itself has been suffering for about
Speaker 1: a decade because nobody wants to buy video games and
Speaker 1: person any more. People order games off Amazon, they order
Speaker 1: them digitally. You know, people wait in line for a
Speaker 1: PlayStation five. But game stop, if you've been inside a
Speaker 1: sort of a dying store. So the stock price over
Speaker 1: the last decade or so has gone down super low
Speaker 1: to the point where I think it was somewhere like
Speaker 1: in the single digits at one point, but right before
Speaker 1: this it was I think like seventeen dollars or so.
Speaker 1: And there's this Reddit group called Wall Street Bets, and
Speaker 1: what Wall Street Bets is is basically them saying, like
Speaker 1: them picking stock to sort of like an informal Reddit
Speaker 1: group full of stock memes, but they kind of encourage
Speaker 1: each other to do things. And what they sort of
Speaker 1: realized was because game Stop stock is so bad that
Speaker 1: a lot of hedge funds were shorting it. And shorting
Speaker 1: it is where I'm bad at explaining things. Basically, it's
Speaker 1: what happens kind of in trading places explanation. They put
Speaker 1: a bet that it will go down, that it will
Speaker 1: lose money. It's basically putting your money on them. You're saying, basically,
Speaker 1: I will buy it for full price because it will
Speaker 1: whatever um. And then the so what they did was
Speaker 1: the Reddit threat. They decided, let's all buy it, so
Speaker 1: kind of like a legal pump and dump scam, sort
Speaker 1: of like back in the day when people try to
Speaker 1: pump penny stocks up by like everyone buy the penny
Speaker 1: stocks and then they dumped them immediately. Um that's what
Speaker 1: they did. They pumped up game Stop stock, and because
Speaker 1: they were all buying it, everyone starts buying it. And
Speaker 1: as is the case with the stock market, because nothing
Speaker 1: makes sense, the more people who bought it, the more
Speaker 1: people were willing to spend on it, to the point
Speaker 1: where it's now worth like three hundred dollars um. What
Speaker 1: that did was it basically bankrupted a bunch of head
Speaker 1: fund hedge funds that were like, did not expect to
Speaker 1: have to owe three hundred dollars per stock Stop Stop
Speaker 1: that they bought for seventeen dollars or bought even cheaper
Speaker 1: or whatever. So, yeah, they owe a lot of money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the head funds do. Which now the conversation, uh,
Speaker 1: that you're seeing is like the Biden administration is thinking
Speaker 1: about like bail or at least considering the question of
Speaker 1: whether they should bail out some of these head funds.
Speaker 1: Which so the thing that is exciting to me about
Speaker 1: this is not I don't think it's a good a
Speaker 1: good time to now invest in game Stop because it
Speaker 1: seems like that's that's how some people are taking it,
Speaker 1: and uh, it seems like the jig is up a
Speaker 1: little bit, like the people. Yeah, like once it becomes
Speaker 1: a national news story, that's when it's probably not a
Speaker 1: good idea to to put your money on it. But
Speaker 1: just the idea that a stock valuation can be completely
Speaker 1: independent from reality is something that I think we It's
Speaker 1: almost like it works as a as satire of like
Speaker 1: what has happened in the stock market for the past year, uh,
Speaker 1: with with the pandemic and businesses like downsize and going
Speaker 1: out of business, firing people. Uh, you know, it being
Speaker 1: for the average American one of the worst economic times
Speaker 1: ever and then the stock market being at its peak
Speaker 1: like peeking and not you know, taking any of the
Speaker 1: damage on and so like the idea that they were like,
Speaker 1: let's just do that, but to one stock and funck
Speaker 1: over some of the people who have been benefiting off
Speaker 1: of that, like in a very vague way where I
Speaker 1: don't understand any of the dynamics. Uh, superproducer on a
Speaker 1: Hosnie understands the stock market and has kind of tried
Speaker 1: to explain it to me, and I, uh my brain
Speaker 1: resists it. It's like I'm allergic to uh understanding it.
Speaker 1: But it's Uh, they're they're just in a turn in
Speaker 1: a broad narrative sense. The idea that they are satirizing
Speaker 1: the stock market, well putting a bunch of billionaires uh
Speaker 1: in financial trouble is is interesting to me. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: secondary thing is watching like the fomo play out though,
Speaker 1: because that's where it gets dicey, you know, like like
Speaker 1: I was saying before we went on Mike, Like, there
Speaker 1: are also in all the numerous interviews that came out
Speaker 1: of the story, like there were people who saw what
Speaker 1: happened Monday when it was like when it was already
Speaker 1: taking off and got in or like I put in
Speaker 1: all my savings and I put four thousand dollars into it,
Speaker 1: and then they realized where they were at and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh ship, they had to sell it off and they
Speaker 1: ended up losing like six hundred bucks. But they're saying like,
Speaker 1: if I hadn't actually realized that, I would have lost
Speaker 1: all of my money trying to just play this like
Speaker 1: like not knowing enough about the stock market and just
Speaker 1: seeing what I saw on Reddit and reacting to that.
Speaker 1: So it's definitely it's interesting to see who who can
Speaker 1: benefit from it, who gets sort of like sucked into
Speaker 1: the momentum of like wanting to play the game without
Speaker 1: knowing and then yeah to Anna, Josane was trying to
Speaker 1: explain to me this morning, like what it made me
Speaker 1: think of. So in Shawshank Redemption, when Andy Dufrain like
Speaker 1: locks himself in the office and plays the music even
Speaker 1: though he knows he's going to get his ass kicked
Speaker 1: by the warden, it's kind of like that is like
Speaker 1: how I think of what they're doing is they're like
Speaker 1: fun these people, and we know it's going to blow
Speaker 1: up in our face. But there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: who are now getting in and who are going to
Speaker 1: lose their their money. So it's almost like if everybody
Speaker 1: who heard the music also got the ship kicked out
Speaker 1: of them, which makes us scene not quite as cool.
Speaker 1: It's like not great if he's risking everybody else's safety, right, No, exactly,
Speaker 1: And also like you know, there's people on that Reddit
Speaker 1: threat who were in early enough where they made a
Speaker 1: crazy amount of money and they're probably like I would
Speaker 1: get out right now as the fools are coming in.
Speaker 1: It's which really it is. There's like I'm not as
Speaker 1: worried about those redditors as I am worried about like
Speaker 1: our parents and grandparents who are like, oh, I remember games,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll put I'll put eight thousand dollars and
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like that's what worries me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Wall Street is inherently predatory, and there's always there,
Speaker 1: always has to be somebody who's a loser, right, who's
Speaker 1: going to lose out? And you can almost guarantee that
Speaker 1: it's not going to be the hedge fund billionaires in
Speaker 1: the end, like it maybe in the short run, or
Speaker 1: they cynically start like co opting this reddit to start
Speaker 1: manipulating the markets through like redditors, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and really be like no, but this is how we
Speaker 1: gonna make move. This is the new game. I mean really,
Speaker 1: that's that's possible too, is people just go, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is what I gotta do. I create a person online
Speaker 1: and try to put my own stocks. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: like it is sort of the I think the people
Speaker 1: in that subreddit would hope, like, well they couldn't learn
Speaker 1: to like authentically, Like it's the sort of authenticity thing
Speaker 1: where that's the thing you can't fake that corporations are
Speaker 1: constantly trying to fake, like trying to find a way
Speaker 1: to sponsor people who speak authentically and who communicate meaning
Speaker 1: to people authentically. But yeah, I think the overall reason
Speaker 1: people are super excited about this is because it seems
Speaker 1: like what like a a very real sort of dynamic
Speaker 1: illustration of the haves and have nots, and like that
Speaker 1: the breakdown in what the stock market is supposed to do,
Speaker 1: which is rep you know, represent value in some real
Speaker 1: world way, and now it's currently like a game being
Speaker 1: played by mostly very wealthy people and they're able to
Speaker 1: fix the rules to insulate themselves from, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: any sort of representation the value. I just wanna read
Speaker 1: what on a road like explaining what shorting is, uh,
Speaker 1: And so she said, shorting is when you borrow shares
Speaker 1: and then you sell immediately, in which then you can
Speaker 1: grab them later for a lower price, give them back
Speaker 1: to who you borrowed them from originally, and then you
Speaker 1: pocket the difference. Like that couldn't be further from making
Speaker 1: sense to me. So dumb when it comes to this
Speaker 1: market Watch story is not helping when I Google is
Speaker 1: sharing sharing, and that's why I'm like, fuck it, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna just deal with meme stocks. Now for
Speaker 1: the lolls. I I. Yeah, I've had shorting explained to
Speaker 1: me so many times, including in movie form by Adam McKay,
Speaker 1: and I it's almost like looking at a photograph in
Speaker 1: West World where I'm just like, this doesn't look like
Speaker 1: anything to me, Like I don't understand, Like my brain
Speaker 1: just goes like, no, this isn't a thing, right. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's interesting because this uh Bloomberg article is like the
Speaker 1: way they make sense of this story is all about like, uh,
Speaker 1: them having these big breaks where it's revealed that uh,
Speaker 1: some influential investor was actually long on game stop and
Speaker 1: that's like where these surgeons are coming from, instead of
Speaker 1: like they really under under rate the idea that it's
Speaker 1: just like kind of being done. Uh like every established
Speaker 1: power group. It's like that it could be even in politics,
Speaker 1: like was it activists. I don't know, ye, actually I
Speaker 1: think it was actually because Joe Biden was so appealing.
Speaker 1: You forget about that, So let's let's ignore that. Maybe
Speaker 1: there are other things that could threaten the power structure,
Speaker 1: right um, but yeah, I mean if they do bailout
Speaker 1: hedge funds, like I think, then the story becomes more
Speaker 1: significant because then it becomes even greater affront to the
Speaker 1: or just like a greater illustration of the disconnect there. Yea,
Speaker 1: and the fact that they are I I forget who
Speaker 1: wrote it on Twitter, but somebody was like, so they've
Speaker 1: owed us two thousand dollars and I haven't been able
Speaker 1: to get that out, but you know they're gonna managed
Speaker 1: to bail these hedge funds out the next week. It's
Speaker 1: just frustrating. Yeah. So you guys a like a louder
Speaker 1: voice in these people's ears, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that that's what you're competing against. And when you have
Speaker 1: a ton of people, like when politicians are surrounded by
Speaker 1: these people, they think that's what the world is. Like
Speaker 1: this saying I made up money talks. But let's talk
Speaker 1: acquittal because or you know, impeachment. Um, it's looking like
Speaker 1: acquittal too. Fascist boogaloo. Yeah, we talked on a couple
Speaker 1: of days ago on trending, uh that senators voted for
Speaker 1: emotion that was basically saying Trump's second impeachment it wasn't
Speaker 1: constitutional because uh, you know, he's out office, he's a
Speaker 1: private citizen. Leave him alone, you guys, hasn't he been
Speaker 1: through enough. What hasn't he been through enough bodies? What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? So yeah, because of that we
Speaker 1: talked about, that means twelve Republicans are gonna have to
Speaker 1: emerge from the depths of hades to try and reclaim
Speaker 1: their humanity in order to actually convict the president or
Speaker 1: ex president in a Senate trial. Um. I don't know
Speaker 1: if that that's gonna work, because it seems like the
Speaker 1: party is getting behind Trump again based on a lot
Speaker 1: of the like recent polling. And you know, John Thune,
Speaker 1: he's a Republican senator. He said, you know, just because
Speaker 1: we voted on the constitutionality of the impeachment, isn't gonna
Speaker 1: necessarily bind us to a vote to convict. And I'm like, sure, Jan,
Speaker 1: that's that's nice to say out loud, to try and
Speaker 1: pretend you're not just some craven asshole, but that's what
Speaker 1: it is. And yes, So now in the impeachment managers
Speaker 1: in Trump's defense, they have until February eight to get
Speaker 1: their arguments and everything in order. But like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think the one thing people the positive outlook on
Speaker 1: this possibility of Republicans coming around is like, well, maybe
Speaker 1: if the evidence is so fucked up and putrid and irrefutable,
Speaker 1: they will these power hungry boot throaters will actually figure
Speaker 1: out that this isn't the way to go. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, I don't know. I don't think so,
Speaker 1: I don't think that. I mean some of the Republicans
Speaker 1: even said things like, you know, like we're not saying
Speaker 1: we're not seeing anything from witnesses, and it's like, you
Speaker 1: guys were there. You weren't there, You were right there.
Speaker 1: Like what are you talking about? You saw that, you
Speaker 1: heard it. What do you mean there's no witnesses you experience. Actually,
Speaker 1: maybe you shouldn't even be participating if that's you need
Speaker 1: more information on the fact that your lie, your safety
Speaker 1: was threatened by insurrection. Okay, okay, um, can't we just
Speaker 1: let it go? Man? My god, move on. This is
Speaker 1: not good for the country. But what's fucked up is
Speaker 1: that fucking strategy is gonna work. They're gonna can we
Speaker 1: just move on their way through and at this fucking
Speaker 1: coup attempt and we have, like most people have been screaming,
Speaker 1: check the receipts of history. This doesn't this doesn't end
Speaker 1: with them coming back in ten years being like we
Speaker 1: were so wrong. My gosh, we're actually, you know what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. We we're volunteering ourselves to go to
Speaker 1: jail for that because that was so much like that
Speaker 1: ain't happening. They're coming. They're gonna knuckle up and go
Speaker 1: in the lab and get smarter and come back and
Speaker 1: figure out a way to do it, you know, by
Speaker 1: hacking the system of governance is how it works. But
Speaker 1: there has been evidence right that there there was more coordination.
Speaker 1: Has anything come of that? Have there been any additional
Speaker 1: developments that of like who was involved on the inside,
Speaker 1: and like beyond just Trump giving the speech, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a couple Congress people, people in Congress whom especially
Speaker 1: uh I forget her name, but one of the Q
Speaker 1: and on one of the two Q and on ones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's been accused of like giving people that were at
Speaker 1: the protested tour of Congress beforehand. UM and also like
Speaker 1: two of them have been like they have a history
Speaker 1: of posting things like we want to kill Nancy. Like
Speaker 1: one of them liked to post about killing Nancy Pelosi.
Speaker 1: UM another has like they've both written online believing in
Speaker 1: Q and all the violence against Democrats that would involve.
Speaker 1: So there's kind of evidence that they helped, but it's
Speaker 1: not like direct photographic evidence that they helped. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think because there's so many ongoing investigations that are
Speaker 1: being kept so close that like, I don't know when
Speaker 1: we're actually gonna understand the totality of everything. Like I
Speaker 1: think one thing is seeing I think more Reese only
Speaker 1: is about all of the video shows how Proud Boys
Speaker 1: were very much fundamental in really getting people riled up
Speaker 1: and being like the focal point of a lot of
Speaker 1: like these points of contact and entry um and the
Speaker 1: fact that they've been so chummy with Roger Stone and
Speaker 1: the and the Republican you know establishment that you know,
Speaker 1: you can there's inferences that can be made, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's why I'm like curious what happens February,
Speaker 1: what we learned, more, what they present, because if if
Speaker 1: they're only going to be like, hey, uh, as I
Speaker 1: present this case, the prosecution says, y'all were there right?
Speaker 1: All right? The prosecution rests. If we do that, it's
Speaker 1: fucking not not good. And I hope that you're gonna
Speaker 1: come harder than that, because these people are are you know,
Speaker 1: so willing to just shut their brain off and be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what, I don't know what the hell
Speaker 1: I'm sorry January Secks, is that a date? I don't
Speaker 1: know anything to me? Alright, let's talk about how Fox
Speaker 1: is dealing with the new reality other than you know,
Speaker 1: falling in the ratings a little bit, uh thinking about
Speaker 1: I think replacing their CEO is one of the rumors
Speaker 1: going around. Um, but you know, they they do still
Speaker 1: have to fill twenty four hours of news every day
Speaker 1: and they have a pretty clear strategy. Mile as you
Speaker 1: were saying, it just seems, you know, it's like we
Speaker 1: all everyone knew this growing into Biden being inaugurated. It's like,
Speaker 1: watch this second, the clock changes and Biden's president, that
Speaker 1: COVID was suddenly going to be a thing that a
Speaker 1: president is responsible for and how dare he let fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand people die and is for whatever stat they were
Speaker 1: throwing out there like like clockwork, because it's it's it's
Speaker 1: all horseshit, And they started, you know, taling these daily
Speaker 1: deaths is like part of like you know, they're sort
Speaker 1: of graphic package every day, and you know, by pivoting
Speaker 1: and making that a thing to like rally the no
Speaker 1: brain supporter around. They can really create this like disingenuous
Speaker 1: narrative they can take into mid terms, which is pandemic
Speaker 1: is so out of control, Joe Biden, what the fuck? UM?
Speaker 1: While actively having like a huge hand in exacerbating like
Speaker 1: the behaviors of people that is making this pandemic really
Speaker 1: hard to contain. UM. On top of obviously the lack
Speaker 1: of financial support for people. I mean, that will always
Speaker 1: be an unseid thing that is known UM. But more
Speaker 1: specifically with Fox's hand they're really like they're They're really
Speaker 1: good at riling these people up. So that's why this
Speaker 1: handity clip from UM Tuesday night really stuck out, because
Speaker 1: he's openly questioning the vaccine to his millions of viewers,
Speaker 1: when before when when Trump was president, they're like, thank god,
Speaker 1: the vaccine is coming. If you remember, this is very clear,
Speaker 1: and I think Fiser announced that they had it just
Speaker 1: to screw the president over Bubba. So the vaccine was
Speaker 1: good then, but cut two now when Joe Biden is president,
Speaker 1: and then this is you get all right, I don't
Speaker 1: know when my number gets called. I'm actually beginning to
Speaker 1: have doubts. I've been telling my friends I'm gonna get
Speaker 1: the vaccine that you know, half of them agree and
Speaker 1: the other half think I'm absolutely nuts. They wouldn't take
Speaker 1: it in a million years. I don't know who to
Speaker 1: listen to. I don't know. Why do you get all weird,
Speaker 1: drunk folksy stuff. I couldn't stop. I couldn't help myself
Speaker 1: but make the like, like the face he was making,
Speaker 1: it's just like real, like I'll let me level with
Speaker 1: your folks. I don't, I don't. I don't believe him,
Speaker 1: but I do want to imagine it would be like
Speaker 1: vaccine that's nuts, Like right, friends, a full half of
Speaker 1: his friend it's like, yeah, his like life is like
Speaker 1: a Benny Hill fucking sketch. Vaccine No, and then the
Speaker 1: like scientists like you better take it, Shan, it's fucking chaotic.
Speaker 1: But yeah, this is what he's saying to because you know,
Speaker 1: this is what happens. They say stuff like this, and
Speaker 1: then it's gonna end up in the weird chain emails.
Speaker 1: Your aunt sends you being like, well, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: at the vaccine though, you know, because Hannity is openly
Speaker 1: questioning it, and it seems like that's in a really
Speaker 1: effective tactic, you know, just to keep to prolong the
Speaker 1: pain of the pandemic because it's going to affect the economy,
Speaker 1: which you're like, well they bludge and Trump because he
Speaker 1: doesn't know how to do anything that they're all. It's
Speaker 1: just becomes so cynical even I mean, it's always been
Speaker 1: down this path. But when you have a vaccine that
Speaker 1: even godhead Robert Rupert Murdoch took that you're still gonna
Speaker 1: do it, it's like, come the funk on, like, just
Speaker 1: just relaxed, what is this? But that's what they want
Speaker 1: to do. Well he took it, and look his ratings
Speaker 1: went down. Man, I'm just saying, yeah, you act like
Speaker 1: those things are unconnected. I do wonder because they spent
Speaker 1: so much time be acting like the pandemic was overrated
Speaker 1: to the point that uh, people, you know, we're will
Speaker 1: to put their life lives on the line and uh,
Speaker 1: you know protest and grocery stores and catch COVID and
Speaker 1: die and you know, with their dying breaths tweet Trump.
Speaker 1: I do wonder like that has to be at least
Speaker 1: partially responsible for the drop in their their viewership right there,
Speaker 1: Like no longer presenting a coherent like version of the world.
Speaker 1: I feel like even like before, at least they were
Speaker 1: presenting one that all held together but was you know
Speaker 1: obviously uh, completely corrupt and self serving. Uh. But now
Speaker 1: it's like they their facts are kind of all over
Speaker 1: the place and it's not it's not clear like what
Speaker 1: how these things can both be true? Right? And I
Speaker 1: also think that a lot of that, like you know,
Speaker 1: the things like the like yeah exactly, things like also
Speaker 1: the you know, calling Arizona during the election, like there
Speaker 1: were I think that one Fox News is so happy
Speaker 1: Bidens in office because it's just someone to push against.
Speaker 1: But they start I feel like they also started to
Speaker 1: lose ratings because they just wouldn't go full as crazy
Speaker 1: the way oh A n would or like right, like
Speaker 1: they would be like, okay, we can't say that we
Speaker 1: need to uh murder all the Democrats, and people are
Speaker 1: like all right, we're done with the liberals. But I
Speaker 1: think Biden's back now they could be like, you know,
Speaker 1: everything's communism, everything socialism because they don't have to condemn
Speaker 1: Trump anymore. So people I think will come back, right Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's it's you know, it's a hard
Speaker 1: energy to keep up the bloodthirst, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: after a while, you if you were really on Like,
Speaker 1: there are people who clearly have an agenda, and those
Speaker 1: are the people who need to be looked out of
Speaker 1: We're watched out for um. But there are also people who,
Speaker 1: like you can tell just were they were ride in
Speaker 1: this wave, and some people like you know, because I'm
Speaker 1: already seeing even on like my my reports from Facebook
Speaker 1: that I get from other people, they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's some like kind of like not talking as
Speaker 1: loud anymore. And I think like a lot of people
Speaker 1: trying to feel like do I want to be like
Speaker 1: so angry that I want to kill people everyday energy?
Speaker 1: Or do I want to Because just as much as
Speaker 1: like liberals want to get back to brunch, I'm sure
Speaker 1: they're conservatives who else just want to get back to
Speaker 1: their daily consumption culture with a tinge of de facto
Speaker 1: white supremacy. Um. But yeah, like it's it's I'm curious
Speaker 1: to see how those numbers end up, because yeah, Jack,
Speaker 1: to your point, like before Fox at least had like
Speaker 1: Linda Lafi and levels of world building that you could
Speaker 1: operate within. And you're like, yes, this. Of course, what
Speaker 1: you're saying is different. I already know this from season three,
Speaker 1: Like that's true. But now we're like in the later
Speaker 1: seasons of Lost, where it's like the oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know how that how that works out in the
Speaker 1: long run. But the Polar Bears, yeah, they were dead
Speaker 1: the whole time. It was bullshit the whole time. Always
Speaker 1: was nothing matters, nothing matters. I mean that's how we
Speaker 1: felt for a long time too. Anybody who wasn't, oh
Speaker 1: so nothing matters. It's all just yeah, alright, let's take
Speaker 1: another quick break and we'll come back and talk about
Speaker 1: James Bond maybe and we're back, uh and yeah, let's
Speaker 1: talk about this James Bond movie because our writer J
Speaker 1: M McNabb is speculating that maybe it's just that this
Speaker 1: movie is so profoundly cursed and we're all just suffering
Speaker 1: the consequences of of how bad make curse this movie is,
Speaker 1: like the pandemic was created as a result of whatever
Speaker 1: curse was put on this movie. Um, so he just
Speaker 1: gave he gave us a rundown of sort of where
Speaker 1: where we started and where we're at now, because they
Speaker 1: just announced that they're pushing it back yet again to
Speaker 1: the point that now they have to uh probably do
Speaker 1: reshoots because the technology is now out of date from
Speaker 1: when they first shot the movie. Um, wasn't it supposed
Speaker 1: to come out before the pandemic? It was it was
Speaker 1: supposed to come out in November, So we're supposed to
Speaker 1: come out then. Yeah, the product place was fucked. Yeah
Speaker 1: it's now looking at October eight. So it's interesting because
Speaker 1: it started with this piece of consumer culture that I
Speaker 1: don't understand, but it's becoming more prevalent where people who
Speaker 1: are fans of a thing really like are are most like.
Speaker 1: It used to be that you didn't want the band
Speaker 1: you liked to succeed because then all the fake gas
Speaker 1: fans would come along. You'd be like, I don't like
Speaker 1: him anymore. But now it's like you will like the
Speaker 1: The two heads of the two biggest James Bond fan
Speaker 1: sites on the Internet, we're imploring the studio to delay
Speaker 1: the release, uh from April until the summer of because
Speaker 1: they didn't want it to fail due to the pandemic.
Speaker 1: They were like making business decisions to try and like
Speaker 1: expand the audience because the summer we're gonna be out
Speaker 1: of the Woods the movies. Yeah, um, but it's almost
Speaker 1: impressive how like fucked the movie was from the beginning.
Speaker 1: So it's originally scheduled, like I said, to come out November,
Speaker 1: delayed after the original director, Danny Boyle quit due to
Speaker 1: creative differences. Apparently his script ideas were, according to sources,
Speaker 1: quote crazy and quote mad cap, and rumor had it
Speaker 1: he wanted to kill off James Bond. Yeah, which I
Speaker 1: actually really like that idea because this being Daniel Craig's
Speaker 1: last movie, like officially you can, like, I like the
Speaker 1: fan theory that James Bond is actually a code name.
Speaker 1: That's why the actor keeps changing is because there they
Speaker 1: are all different people inhabiting this role that was created
Speaker 1: for m I six called James Bond. Uh, But that
Speaker 1: doesn't really fit within the U universe of the movie.
Speaker 1: What is it, Danny Boyle James Bond dying scene? Look
Speaker 1: like is he like oding on Heroin or something like
Speaker 1: I'm curious, like how dark? Because you know, like because
Speaker 1: in the first one, what was the first Double seven
Speaker 1: with Daniel Craig Casino Royal, Yeah, right, and that one
Speaker 1: was like, oh ship, like he's kind of you know
Speaker 1: what I mean and like that. I feel like that
Speaker 1: helped everybody be like, Yo, this new James Bond actually
Speaker 1: takes a series like what if a guy killed a
Speaker 1: bunch of people and all these women killed and drank
Speaker 1: a ton and kind of we didn't have a lot
Speaker 1: of therapy. Uh, this is where you end up. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that would have been I would have been interested in
Speaker 1: seeing that. Um. So their next choice was awesome True
Speaker 1: Detectives Carrie Fukanaga. But then Daniel Craig injured himself during
Speaker 1: filming had to get ankle surgery. A controlled explosion on
Speaker 1: set this is a separate incident wasn't so controlled and
Speaker 1: ended up injuring a crew member and damaging the sound stage. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then there were rumors that there was a mutiny
Speaker 1: on the set because Fukunaga was constantly missing work in
Speaker 1: order to play his PlayStation, which he denied. He said
Speaker 1: his quote was, as for my PS four relationship, if
Speaker 1: my Red Dead redemption to progresses any indication, it's been
Speaker 1: stunted at six for months, and if anyone spoils the
Speaker 1: end for me before I wrap by, I'm going to
Speaker 1: be pissed. So Uh, that doesn't that sounds like it
Speaker 1: sounds like you were playing Red Dead Redemption the progress
Speaker 1: argument really, I mean, can you do you have screen
Speaker 1: caps of your progress before? Because it could just be
Speaker 1: that you're stalling out trying to achieve something and you're
Speaker 1: at whatever. I mean, we don't need gamer forensics to enter,
Speaker 1: but I like them that, like it went that like
Speaker 1: your director at James Bond movie. But you're like, no, man,
Speaker 1: I just got a new hat, Like I think, I
Speaker 1: think to keep going around for a little bit. You're like,
Speaker 1: the online mode just came out, and I think would
Speaker 1: be a moonshiner. You can make more money. It's not
Speaker 1: as fun, but you definitely get more money to buy
Speaker 1: stuff for your character. Look at my guy, he's so
Speaker 1: fucked up looking. Huh. Also, that seems so long ago.
Speaker 1: That's another testament how long this movie he's been in
Speaker 1: production Redemption too, Like, oh fuck years ago. Uh. Grays
Speaker 1: Jones was brought in for a cameo quit on the
Speaker 1: spot because she didn't like the size of her role. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then after all of that, the pandemic hit couldn't
Speaker 1: be released. Apple and Netflix offered to buy the movie,
Speaker 1: but MGM wanted six hundred million dollars and so they
Speaker 1: didn't do that, but a big So the reshoots is
Speaker 1: actually kind of a big deal because the movie is
Speaker 1: like all James Bond movies or at least partially uh
Speaker 1: funded by product placement. Heineken supposedly paid forty five million
Speaker 1: dollars to have Daniel Craig sipped their beer at that
Speaker 1: and that one of the Daniel Craig James Bonds I
Speaker 1: don't even remember. But so there's like Nokia devices that
Speaker 1: he's using, which are already outdated, and uh, we'll look
Speaker 1: very old by the time the movie comes out, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to reshoot or use Uh. They've actually
Speaker 1: like digitally altered a shot from the trailer to update
Speaker 1: the Nokia equipment. So maybe they can just do that
Speaker 1: for the whole movie. But I'm sure, like what for cars,
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna be able to like completely update
Speaker 1: the car toil like this year's model. I love it.
Speaker 1: I love that ship, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: just that second, those those secondary deliverable as you have
Speaker 1: as a production You're like, dude, oh fuckal fuck, what
Speaker 1: does the new one look like? It's completely fucking different.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's not we might as well just
Speaker 1: eat the fucking lawsuit because it's gonna cost more to
Speaker 1: try and reshoot with the fucking phone. It's this sounds
Speaker 1: this so funny, Like whoever's figuring that out in real time?
Speaker 1: I just feel so awful for But also they're probably
Speaker 1: being paid exorbitant sums of money, so do you they're
Speaker 1: they're probably being paying, but the special effects person that
Speaker 1: they're putting it only not being paid. There. It's like
Speaker 1: the same guy who had to replace Superman's mustache and
Speaker 1: Justice League again, like the studios like doxing that VFX
Speaker 1: artist because it's like, I don't know, man, you should
Speaker 1: check out this guy his email, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you should ask him what the hell was going on
Speaker 1: with that? Huh? That's man? Oh well, I I hope
Speaker 1: it comes out and it's incident free, but oh well,
Speaker 1: have we still have? Have they even figured out who
Speaker 1: the next James Bond was? Or was that always just
Speaker 1: going to be a controversial thing because they mentioned someone
Speaker 1: that was not a white cis gendered man. I think
Speaker 1: the second I think that there was like a lot
Speaker 1: of talk about it. I think because Daniel Craig, it
Speaker 1: sounded for a bit like he might have not even
Speaker 1: done this one, Like wasn't there like a big talk
Speaker 1: about that? So I think that he came back and
Speaker 1: then they're like, well, we'll address that later when people
Speaker 1: forget Yeah, right, he would sounded like as nihilistic as
Speaker 1: any movie star has ever sounded about. Like a role.
Speaker 1: It was like, I hate this role. James Bond used
Speaker 1: to die and then like immediately did a one A D.
Speaker 1: It was very very funny to see that no Kia
Speaker 1: check landed on his doorstep. Yeah. The the mustache thing
Speaker 1: that you just reference is that that's a real story, right,
Speaker 1: That's a real story that really happened. You can see
Speaker 1: that on YouTube. The basically they he wouldn't shave his
Speaker 1: mustache for I think when he was doing Mission Possible, right,
Speaker 1: the most important part of that character was the mustache,
Speaker 1: and they need to do a reshoot. He wouldn't shave it,
Speaker 1: and so Warner had to pay someone to like digitally
Speaker 1: erase a mustache in the shot. Because he's Superman is Superman,
Speaker 1: he usually doesn't have like a Freddie Mercury mustache. Um. So,
Speaker 1: but the thing is it almost looks it looks almost
Speaker 1: like they just took clay and just wrapped it over
Speaker 1: his lip, so it still has like the contours of
Speaker 1: a mustache a little bit. It just looks flesh covered
Speaker 1: and like the mouth moving looks it looks. It looks
Speaker 1: like if you and I down did Maya and did
Speaker 1: like a two hour training video on it and then
Speaker 1: replaced footage of Superman just got a ken doll mouth
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Yeah, just let him rock the mustache.
Speaker 1: We're like, hey, I forgot to shave. Man. If you
Speaker 1: knew how fast this thing grows, like, you'd have a
Speaker 1: whole movie and me just shaving. Okay, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Yeah uh I I was going to say that that
Speaker 1: would hurt his ability to disguise himself as Clark Kent,
Speaker 1: but it's not like any other part of his face
Speaker 1: is covered up. His eyes. Yeah, Um, has anyone done
Speaker 1: know like a funny mockumentary about like Clark Kent's co
Speaker 1: workers putting together that he was Superman. Just that guy
Speaker 1: is Superman, not kidd Superman that I don't know. It
Speaker 1: looks at side by side photo it's him, you fucking idiot,
Speaker 1: But he has that guy has a cool curl right,
Speaker 1: they do some Superman's change the side that his hair
Speaker 1: has parted on because like having it parted, sweeping from
Speaker 1: left to right is alpha, so that's what Superman has.
Speaker 1: But Clark Kent has it parted the other way, as
Speaker 1: if he combs his hair with his left hand, which
Speaker 1: is some beta ship obviously. But I just I love
Speaker 1: the the lore about fucking Clark Kent, but I love
Speaker 1: the idea that Superman, like most of the time, is
Speaker 1: spent not like taking the thing off, but like fixing
Speaker 1: his hair as people are like about to die. He's
Speaker 1: like in the mirror, like ship. Don't look like a cock,
Speaker 1: you idiot. Wait a minute to a man's half potted
Speaker 1: on the wrong side, the real Superman. It's super cock.
Speaker 1: Get him alright, let's talk. Let's talk Ellen. Ellen has
Speaker 1: one year left on our contract for a show. About
Speaker 1: six months from now, negotiations will begin to discuss the
Speaker 1: future of the show. But it seems like she may
Speaker 1: have had enough bullying uh from other people to on
Speaker 1: her for now. In this page six article, which if
Speaker 1: these tawboys they've been they've been taking us for a
Speaker 1: ride the last couple of weeks, especially that heartbreaking revelation
Speaker 1: that Jane Korkowski was not in fact with Michael Lindel,
Speaker 1: but I'm a Mike Lindel Korkowski truther, so that that
Speaker 1: love story will go on in my heart. Um but yeah,
Speaker 1: the whole thing with this is, you know, she owns
Speaker 1: the rights to the show, so she's basically in fully
Speaker 1: in control of what happens, you know, like she doesn't
Speaker 1: have to like they can't be like, well, we're renewing
Speaker 1: it and it's our show, so you gotta do it,
Speaker 1: or Funk's like now, I don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: And the reports and page six seemed to be about
Speaker 1: it's all the exposure and fucking accountability around her mistreatment
Speaker 1: of people that is wearing her down and she just
Speaker 1: wants to go to Elysium with all the other bazillionaires
Speaker 1: in this guy and just not be bothered by it anymore.
Speaker 1: Um So yeah, that's where she's at. And then like
Speaker 1: in the article, like well who will take the thrown
Speaker 1: Apparently Kelly Clarkson has been eating into her ratings since
Speaker 1: the summer, not like in a huge way, but that
Speaker 1: I guess when you're measuring where the audiences are shifting
Speaker 1: Kelly Clarkson maybe the new Ellen. I guess maybe. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Kelly's a star. I've heard Kelly Clarkson
Speaker 1: of her. Drew Barrymore. Part of me also, like my
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory head thinks that maybe like Kelly Clarkson or
Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore's people are the one that see that article
Speaker 1: of Ellen thinking of leaving. Yeah, who seated all the
Speaker 1: all the things. Ellen's actually really sweet to everybody behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, and uh no one believes me. Um Drew
Speaker 1: Barrymore man fucking master technic technician. I'm saying, though we've
Speaker 1: we've we've been fooled for decades and then the knife
Speaker 1: comes out. For those first couple of episodes were a
Speaker 1: little rocky though. Yeah they were one up for all
Speaker 1: the wrong reasons. Psychotic show, Yeah, just weird. It was like,
Speaker 1: does anybody making this show know what a talk show is? Or? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 1: But I kind of liked it about it because it
Speaker 1: felt like it almost felt like someone like as much
Speaker 1: as the cliche is like we just made a show
Speaker 1: in our basement, but with a budget, that's what it
Speaker 1: feels like. A show like like I have one friend
Speaker 1: who does food segments on it, and they're like they
Speaker 1: just went like, hey, do you want to come on
Speaker 1: and test snacks? And he was like sure. So like
Speaker 1: like it feels like it's a podcast with a ton
Speaker 1: of TV money. Yeah, God, one of these networks do
Speaker 1: that over here. We can use snack tests. We're already
Speaker 1: doing passive product placement anyway, because we're so consumer brained
Speaker 1: from being American. Your product placement for weed, Yeah, exactly that,
Speaker 1: and then like just talking ad nauseum about yeah, we're
Speaker 1: chills for sure. Yeah, I can be ill prepared with
Speaker 1: the best of them. You heard my take on the
Speaker 1: stock market up top right, and that's what the Drew
Speaker 1: Barrymore segment felt like. But it is a thing. I
Speaker 1: would watch them though, to your point, Mike, because it's
Speaker 1: it's so different. It's like just such aint. You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess this. I'm like in my mind, I had
Speaker 1: to come around and like, I guess this is what
Speaker 1: it would be if Drew Barrymore had a talk show,
Speaker 1: like more realistically than a host that happens to be
Speaker 1: Drew Barrymore. Yes, yeah, it almost feels a little bit
Speaker 1: like between two ferns. But it's not a joke, like
Speaker 1: it's like thing run seriously, like I mean, she's having
Speaker 1: fun with it. She's not dead serious, but like sense
Speaker 1: of like, oh this is weird and it's like authentically. Yeah.
Speaker 1: There there is this overall trend I've I've seen like
Speaker 1: in a couple of places where celebrities who have come
Speaker 1: under criticism for being bad humans are are now like
Speaker 1: really bitter. They like, no, they can't come out and
Speaker 1: say it. But I was just noticing Bill Simmons on
Speaker 1: his podcast on an ad on his show so I've
Speaker 1: heard it like a dozen times, talks about how Steph
Speaker 1: Curry put up sixty two points in response to his
Speaker 1: haters on social media, and he was like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I know how it feels. That's what social media is
Speaker 1: for people to criticize people more successful than them. Because
Speaker 1: he caught shipped for hiring a bunch of like white
Speaker 1: dudes and uh for his like very white dude, fifty
Speaker 1: year old economic and racial politics on a sports show.
Speaker 1: But he he takes it as like they're just haters
Speaker 1: who don't like my success. Man. Oh yeah, where anybody
Speaker 1: who starts just redefines accountability as haters. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's when you that's when you crossed the rubicon into bullshit,
Speaker 1: like you've fully you're like, that's when you always notice like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're not You're no longer willing to even hold a
Speaker 1: place in your mind where someone could have an opinion
Speaker 1: that like, Okay, that's that might be valid or that's
Speaker 1: an interesting viewpoint on something versus the blanket. Oh, they're
Speaker 1: just haters, you know what I mean, They're just that's
Speaker 1: what they do. They're just haters. They hate that I'm
Speaker 1: a white supremacist. That's what it is like. And finally,
Speaker 1: let's talk Disney's Hall of Presidents at disney World, which
Speaker 1: is which is open? I guess so out well, they've
Speaker 1: escaped and it's bad news for Floridians. So I guess
Speaker 1: it's closed right now as they're updating it with a
Speaker 1: robo Biden. But I hadn't really followed, Like the Trump
Speaker 1: bot has already been a huge problem for Disney, and
Speaker 1: the attraction now requires live human security guards because of
Speaker 1: the heckling and derision that Trump gets. Um, and they
Speaker 1: added large spikes near the stage to protract to protect
Speaker 1: the animatronic Trump, which is very easy. Um wild like
Speaker 1: I mean like anti tank hedgehogs on D Day, like
Speaker 1: what I love the idea of the happiest place on Earth,
Speaker 1: installing spikes. It's just like they let a tiny little
Speaker 1: bit of politics through and it's just like splodes. Just
Speaker 1: have like George Washington give a little speech and then
Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln waves and get out, like we don't need
Speaker 1: the current president speaking. Yeah. They apparently Trump's robot wax
Speaker 1: is poetically about America, which isn't just like a false
Speaker 1: representation of him as a president. Uh, it's not what
Speaker 1: he wanted to record for Disney. According to one of
Speaker 1: his aids, Trump tried to brag about his private real
Speaker 1: estate business and make inaccurate claims while recording the speech
Speaker 1: he sent to Disney, and they had to like edit
Speaker 1: around it. Um, honestly, the era of Trump comedy is over.
Speaker 1: But that's so funny to me. Imagine a recording booth
Speaker 1: and they're like this will take fifteen minutes there, just
Speaker 1: just say the line, and it taking eight hours bocking forth.
Speaker 1: It's like that episode of The Crown where a Thatchers
Speaker 1: like has to give a take on apartheid and they're like,
Speaker 1: what about this way he's like, no, no, I gotta
Speaker 1: talk about Trump steaks. Gotta talk about Trump steaks in
Speaker 1: this one. Sorry, it's no like you have fucking Abrahamily
Speaker 1: can talk about the Civil War that you get the
Speaker 1: fucking salesman Trump root fuck. They're not good with politics. Huh.
Speaker 1: Maybe Disneys just keep the fucking head out of this
Speaker 1: ship forever. They're thinking of instead of doing that, they're
Speaker 1: thinking of rebranding the attraction. Uh. And there were rumors
Speaker 1: that they were going to completely over all it with
Speaker 1: input of Lin Manuel Miranda and weird Al, which would
Speaker 1: be yeah, I would take that, please too. Talented musicians
Speaker 1: and a guy who famously doesn't say bad words like
Speaker 1: that feels what much than fucking anything? Yeah? Fine, Disney
Speaker 1: always gets the great musicians in the end. They might
Speaker 1: be giants. They got them hot Dog, Hot Dog, Hot
Speaker 1: diggity Dog. That's the That's one of my kid's favorite songs.
Speaker 1: It's the Disney Mickey Mouse like Clubhouse theme song by
Speaker 1: they might be giants. Uh. I wonder what current musicians
Speaker 1: will will be Disney musicians in the future. Chance maybe?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess see a chance the rapper doing
Speaker 1: kid rap. Oh yeah, I feel like I feel like
Speaker 1: you you have a family phase, you hate your and rap,
Speaker 1: you have your like five years of like we're gonna
Speaker 1: make kids movies and we're gonna make some fun at
Speaker 1: music and then we're back to real exactly. Like if
Speaker 1: if ice Cube can go from n W A T
Speaker 1: are we there yet? And you know, West Side Gun
Speaker 1: and the whole Griselda gang could be doing fucking kids
Speaker 1: Bob versions of fucking all the hits and the cardib
Speaker 1: is going to be the new Mr. Rogers, Like it's
Speaker 1: it's look at the end of the day, it's about
Speaker 1: to check. And if someone's willing to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: gangster guy, you want to be in a kid movie
Speaker 1: for money? Like yeah, yeah, for sure, I mean. And
Speaker 1: also like, you know, when you grew up in your
Speaker 1: fifteen listening to a rapper and you're, you know, thirty
Speaker 1: six and you have kids, you're you still like that rapper,
Speaker 1: right of course? You know, you're like DMX is Daddy Daycare,
Speaker 1: dmxican that Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer cover and people
Speaker 1: loved it right right right exactly. How the fund did
Speaker 1: I miss that DMX to Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer
Speaker 1: cover a couple of years ago, but it's on Spotify now. Ship.
Speaker 1: It was like when he wasn't using the computer at
Speaker 1: all and he just like got kind of sober, and
Speaker 1: every like every radio station he went to, people will
Speaker 1: be like, let's make a viral video DMX. Just get
Speaker 1: him to read this thing or ask him if he
Speaker 1: knows about Google, because there's acting what the fun is Google? Google?
Speaker 1: And you're like, okay, shit, Uh well, Mike, it's been
Speaker 1: so fun having you. Man, where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you? Read you? Um, you can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Mike Drucker and Mike k E d r
Speaker 1: u c k y r um on Instagram at Mike
Speaker 1: Drucker is dead because the other name was taken and
Speaker 1: uh what Please watch Full Front wisamantheby ten thirty Wednesdays
Speaker 1: on TBS and also read my book Silent Hill from
Speaker 1: Boss Fight Books. Yeah, we're out on the charts because
Speaker 1: I know you were watching yourself on the chart. I
Speaker 1: think this morning I was number seven on video game books,
Speaker 1: which is actually pretty good because all of them are
Speaker 1: like Minecraft books. They're like weirdly vaguely horny teenage Minecraft
Speaker 1: to even rise a little bit, feels good. Yeah, to
Speaker 1: break through all that Minecraft noise, for sure is the
Speaker 1: Minecraft Minecraft books are like fan fiction type thing. Like
Speaker 1: there's a lot that are fan Amazon's very loosey goosey
Speaker 1: with like fan fiction publishing, and so some are fan
Speaker 1: fiction and some are like official uh novelizations. So it's
Speaker 1: a mixture of the two. Got it. It's not like
Speaker 1: how to be good at Minecraft. It's like this person
Speaker 1: guides or for Jack. Yeah. Uh. And is there a
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Yes, Uh, my favorite tweet of all time.
Speaker 1: I need to I need to find it because I
Speaker 1: had it up and then it went away. Give me
Speaker 1: a second, there we go. Uh. Do you guys know
Speaker 1: d C. Pearson. Yeah, he was in that comedy group
Speaker 1: Derek Um. So there's a tweet that I think about, maybe,
Speaker 1: I don't know, once a week. And it's from two
Speaker 1: thousand eighteen, and he posts a picture of a snack
Speaker 1: called goji maka snacker rooms, and what he writes above
Speaker 1: it is I sent used to to whack that freaking guy,
Speaker 1: and instead you screwed it up like a couple of
Speaker 1: and then it says Gogi Maca snacker rooms, and it
Speaker 1: always makes me laugh, just the idea of Goji Marca
Speaker 1: snackers being like an italianate snack roons. These guys a
Speaker 1: bunch of I always laughed at it. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: Gogi Marca snacker Room. Zach Miles, where you can people
Speaker 1: find you? What's tweeting? Twitter, Instagram? Miles A. Gray Also
Speaker 1: for Fiance the other podcast if you want to talk
Speaker 1: about Fance and the aforementioned can Abyss. Some tweets that
Speaker 1: I like, both from Reductress. I haven't haven't shown my
Speaker 1: love to my favorite headline writers over their Reductress. First
Speaker 1: one at Reductress, By the time I get vaccinated, will
Speaker 1: it even be cool anymore? That's true? This like is
Speaker 1: a woman out? And then another one from Reductress how
Speaker 1: to Love Yourself even though the tattoo artists didn't post
Speaker 1: a pick of your tattoo. Oh that's funny. I know
Speaker 1: people who have gone, you know, like in the before times,
Speaker 1: who are like, I'm going to go to this artist
Speaker 1: or whatever, like I've been doing a lot of research,
Speaker 1: I want, I want this piece by this artist, and
Speaker 1: then like they don't post it and I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 1: where's the thing? I don't I think I think they
Speaker 1: gotta wait, or maybe they want to wait till it's
Speaker 1: like fully done and healed or something. So the pain
Speaker 1: of the tattoo artist's so funny. Couple of tweets have
Speaker 1: been enjoying. One from robbed Delaney pro tip you can
Speaker 1: probably fit five or six honeyed hands with you in
Speaker 1: your coffin if they cut your legs off. And then
Speaker 1: Andy Ryan tweeted two elderly British ladies greeting each other
Speaker 1: and it's a bag that says l o verra on
Speaker 1: it Ala thera and the other one says evening Primrose oil.
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Speaker 1: as well as a song we ride out on miles
Speaker 1: What are we riding out on today? Just more easy
Speaker 1: background tunes, you know. But for the hip hop heads,
Speaker 1: you'll probably recognize this one because it is from cal
Speaker 1: Jadeer the fucking marimba, mallet vibraphone. God, it's called Aquarius.
Speaker 1: And if you're a fan of the tribe called Quest
Speaker 1: album Midnight Marauders, Keep Keep Bouncing, you might remember it
Speaker 1: from that. So yeah, check that out. All cal Jaders
Speaker 1: ship is really dope if you're into that jat So
Speaker 1: let's take it there alright, we're gonna ride out on that.
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