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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment last stravaganza.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Really,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history that is revealing
Speaker 1: about who you are? Well? Last night I searched what
Speaker 1: is the emoji symbol for? Like can I say pussy
Speaker 1: or vagina or whatever? I forget I'm allowed to say that.
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and figure this. Let's side
Speaker 1: because I know eggplant is the dick emoji and I'm
Speaker 1: making Valentine's Day merch. Hey, you guys can buy them
Speaker 1: at dot com Comedy, dot com slash shop. But I
Speaker 1: wanted I have a joke that's like thank you for
Speaker 1: the dick, but I'm doing it where you can circle
Speaker 1: different ones so you can circle I want to like
Speaker 1: big pussy, like heart, brain, whatever. But I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know the if there is one, and I
Speaker 1: looked it up and I couldn't figure out like a consensus,
Speaker 1: So I just put a picture of a kitty. What
Speaker 1: do you guys think is there? Is it? I've heard taco,
Speaker 1: but that feels the meaning to me. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: like those weird I mean the kitty, that's that's probably
Speaker 1: the best way to go at it as opposed to
Speaker 1: taco which just like I feel like it reminds me
Speaker 1: of that uh pink tacos, like Taco Place which always
Speaker 1: has you may have one of the Century City mall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like back in the day, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: remember something like you'll ruin a pink talk on like
Speaker 1: you are you enjoy miss me with that aggirable bullshit.
Speaker 1: Places like the tacos suck. Yeah. I'm trying to think,
Speaker 1: like because I know on the internet, like you know,
Speaker 1: like you know, the Shade Room or like gossip blogs
Speaker 1: when where they like I feel like the cat face
Speaker 1: one is used a lot and then the other two,
Speaker 1: but then the peach is used for a button. There
Speaker 1: I put the button. There, I put brain, which you
Speaker 1: can interpret either way. You know, you could interpreted the
Speaker 1: Nicki minajway or as but yeah, but I wanted a Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was like. Maybe there's a flower, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's universal, So I just put kitty.
Speaker 1: But the flower that needs to be remedied I think
Speaker 1: yeah's are just also different. You know, maybe it's hard
Speaker 1: to categorize them because they're all just unique. Maybe it
Speaker 1: should be like a snowflake or something. Yeah wow, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to Yeah, maybe that's something we need
Speaker 1: to push for. Alex Schmidt and Jamie loftus need to
Speaker 1: combine their forces of trying to get into emojis being
Speaker 1: made and just be like, what is the thing we
Speaker 1: can all agree upon for this genital representation? So I'm
Speaker 1: behind that, kitty. Are there any other options that we Um,
Speaker 1: there's like so if you look it up, they do
Speaker 1: have like like sets that are like not the Unicode one.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of like actual vagina emojis, which
Speaker 1: is like not what I wanted. Um, but yeah, those
Speaker 1: were the ones I saw. But I guess I guess
Speaker 1: we have less need to be uh sending those emojis.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure to have a little emoji for it,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you get into weird territory like is it
Speaker 1: the cherries? Is it? Is it the oyster that oyster
Speaker 1: above the stream, or is it like the meat bone
Speaker 1: with the bone through it? There is like the third eye,
Speaker 1: which I kind of like because that like the evil
Speaker 1: eye or whatever, the protecting Yeah, okay, I cook a
Speaker 1: ball with that. It's about like keeping out the evil,
Speaker 1: you know. Sure, but I think Georgia O'Keeffe art historians
Speaker 1: on the case to just be like this this will do. Really,
Speaker 1: I was googling, I've I've been really homesick recently since
Speaker 1: I was looking up local business drama in my area.
Speaker 1: There's all so um, the best, the best, well not
Speaker 1: the best, I mean, it's it's this is all upsetting,
Speaker 1: but this drama or like consumer beefs with the businesses,
Speaker 1: there's just always I feel like it happens everywhere, but
Speaker 1: in the Boston ones always really make me laugh of
Speaker 1: just like weird small business drama. And the best one
Speaker 1: there's like this is a pretty well known one at
Speaker 1: this point, but the cat cafe in Boston that was
Speaker 1: like run by a woman who didn't care about cats
Speaker 1: and was like there, uh, So I googled cat cafe
Speaker 1: drama Boston, and that brings you to a slew of
Speaker 1: incredible um short histories of just uh it was just
Speaker 1: a local massive chooses a woman who wanted to start
Speaker 1: a cat cafe. But guess what she didn't know how
Speaker 1: to take care of cats. Uh. Cat lovers immediately got
Speaker 1: angry at her, but she just continued to double down.
Speaker 1: And it was just like real New England mom on
Speaker 1: Facebook energy where she would post these like screeds from
Speaker 1: the cat Cafe page being like everyone who thinks I
Speaker 1: don't know how to take care of a cat is
Speaker 1: a hater and like it was, and it went on
Speaker 1: for years and years, and right right when it's like
Speaker 1: all these people she was working with were like, you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be running a business about cats, uh. And so
Speaker 1: it went on for years. My brother used to live
Speaker 1: near the Cat Cafe, so I relived that drama. And
Speaker 1: then also the puppet theater I used to work out
Speaker 1: in Boston was embezzled from by its own managing director.
Speaker 1: So I was catching up on that drama. There's just
Speaker 1: my my start. I don't know, my algorithm is is
Speaker 1: fucked for like good and bad news. You just hit
Speaker 1: us with there's a lot going on on my Google.
Speaker 1: How much can you embezzle out of a puppet theater?
Speaker 1: All of it? I guess is there a dollar amount?
Speaker 1: What had happened? No, they it was kept pretty quiet.
Speaker 1: It was I was I don't know why. I was
Speaker 1: just like on one and I like contacted all my
Speaker 1: Boston media contacts to be like, why aren't people reporting
Speaker 1: on the puppet embezzlement? And then I did a bunch
Speaker 1: of this is like a month ago. I did a
Speaker 1: ton of research. I sent it to my friend and
Speaker 1: she was like, UM, I'll see what we can do,
Speaker 1: but it's you just got to go through it here.
Speaker 1: It is just what kind of person do you need
Speaker 1: to be to embezzle from a fucking independently run, nonprofit
Speaker 1: puppet theater. That's first fucking kind. I feel like you've
Speaker 1: got to be a bad guy in a Muppets movie,
Speaker 1: Like that's from a puppet I was so upset about it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, people in Boss, it should be
Speaker 1: so mad that people stole for someone stole from a
Speaker 1: puppet theater. But it was like someone at the top
Speaker 1: was just like taking money out of the out of
Speaker 1: the cash, but like what was your connection to the
Speaker 1: puppet theater, just like when you went to or I
Speaker 1: used to work. I used to work there. I enterned
Speaker 1: there in college and then I worked there for a
Speaker 1: little bit. It's a great puppet theater. It seems like
Speaker 1: they're going to be okay, but there was I got like,
Speaker 1: I'm still in their email list, and like a month
Speaker 1: and a half ago, they sent out this wild email
Speaker 1: that was just like an update on the embezzlement scandal.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, because usually it's like do you
Speaker 1: want to watch Shadow Puppets on Zoom? And I'm like no,
Speaker 1: but um so there's you know, just a little a
Speaker 1: little bit of local drama to make me feel closer
Speaker 1: to home. What is something from your search history that
Speaker 1: is revealing about who you are? So my I recently
Speaker 1: searched is tell Me Who I Am? A true story?
Speaker 1: Because do you know that documentary Tell Me Who I Am?
Speaker 1: I think it's pretty recent. And on Childish my parenting
Speaker 1: Ish podcast, uh my co host Craig Fitzsimmons mentioned having
Speaker 1: seen it and he didn't want to tell me in details,
Speaker 1: but it was like so amazing and he's like, just
Speaker 1: go watch it. And then in uh in an Instagram comment,
Speaker 1: a listener was like, I've been listening to Allison for
Speaker 1: years and I think she I know her sensibility and
Speaker 1: I think she shouldn't watch it. It's like the worst
Speaker 1: possible thing happens to kids. It would it was too
Speaker 1: much for me, it would be too much for her.
Speaker 1: Don't watch it. So I thought, okay, I won't. I'll
Speaker 1: just go google the plot summary, which is I Am. I'm.
Speaker 1: I cannot handle horror. I can't handle things that are
Speaker 1: super disturbing, like I have a dark brain that goes
Speaker 1: to those places. Anyway, I don't need outside help. So
Speaker 1: what I do is I won't watch anything awful. I
Speaker 1: just read this like I couldn't even I could not
Speaker 1: get past two episodes of Handmaid's Tale. But I know
Speaker 1: the entire synopsis because I go torture myself by reading
Speaker 1: about it on Wikipedia. So I went to Wikipedia. I
Speaker 1: now know what tell me who I Am is about?
Speaker 1: And I don't know whether I should say or not.
Speaker 1: I don't really think it's a spoiler, because everything I
Speaker 1: encountered that gave a description about it says it. But
Speaker 1: it just I I won't. But I read it and
Speaker 1: I was like, this is so awful. This, And I
Speaker 1: always like there's a part of me that's very naive.
Speaker 1: It's so awful. This can't be a true story. This
Speaker 1: just can't. So I was hoping to find something that
Speaker 1: says that it's a work of fiction or like it's
Speaker 1: a someone made it up, it's a hoax, set it up.
Speaker 1: But all I kept seeing was that it is a
Speaker 1: true story, and that is my Google search history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is dark. I'm I'm looking at it right now,
Speaker 1: and it's like someone's in an accident, loses their memory
Speaker 1: and then they're relying on their twin sibling to like
Speaker 1: fill in the gaps. So there's these this set of
Speaker 1: twins and one of them gets into a motor cycle
Speaker 1: accident and is in a coma and comes out of
Speaker 1: it and doesn't remember anything except like very uh maybe
Speaker 1: like a few very recent memories. Doesn't remember anything and
Speaker 1: is and so his twin brother is filling him in
Speaker 1: on everything, you know, their childhood and everything that happened
Speaker 1: up till now, and paints a pretty rosy picture of it.
Speaker 1: But then it turns out should I I say it,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a spoiler or not. I
Speaker 1: just know broadly, I think that there's a dark family secret.
Speaker 1: It turns out that there was a very dark family secret, yes,
Speaker 1: that involved the two boys, and that the twin covered
Speaker 1: that up, and in doing so, I believe it was
Speaker 1: pretty healing for the one who had the memories because
Speaker 1: he was able to create this fantasy of a good upbringing.
Speaker 1: But then when their mother dies, the twin who had
Speaker 1: the memory loss stumbles onto some things and it's like,
Speaker 1: did something bad happen to us? And then it all
Speaker 1: and and then and I did relate. I do relate
Speaker 1: to this, like goes on this deep becomes obsessed with
Speaker 1: finding out the truth of what really happened. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it. I've only read about it. That's how I
Speaker 1: would be, though. I get very obsessed with, like I
Speaker 1: need to know the truth of something. It's like it's
Speaker 1: a narrative kind of uh idea that we've that we
Speaker 1: were talking about kind of resonating especially recently where um,
Speaker 1: and obviously this is a documentary, and I was talking
Speaker 1: about it in the context of like more fictional movies
Speaker 1: like Memento, where people are intentionally like trying to avoid reality.
Speaker 1: Um and yeah, this seems like one of one of
Speaker 1: those sort of trying to avoid the reality of of
Speaker 1: one's own memories that I think we're seeing a lot
Speaker 1: of in popular culture. Obviously we see a lot of it.
Speaker 1: And then news with Trump supporters and Alex Jones people
Speaker 1: and ship like that. But right, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: there's this question of what is the value of living
Speaker 1: in reality if reality is upsetting and disturbing? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think the matrix is probably the more central idea is
Speaker 1: or the more central text for like that choice between
Speaker 1: do I want to wake up to a reality even
Speaker 1: if that reality is less pleasant than just living in
Speaker 1: the lie? Right? And all the followers of Q who
Speaker 1: have been red pilled to the max man, if they
Speaker 1: have those pill colors, right, they of course believe that
Speaker 1: the rest of us are choosing to stay asleep to
Speaker 1: the reality that they are aware of. It's And now
Speaker 1: they're having a reckoning too. They're having realizing they were
Speaker 1: post legitimately on like can I blue pill back? But
Speaker 1: they do it. I think what they're discovering is that
Speaker 1: they they did choose the blue pill, like like with
Speaker 1: everything with the Trump administration, they have chosen the to
Speaker 1: use like the antonym, like the exact opposite of the truth,
Speaker 1: and you know, or with with Trump, a lot of
Speaker 1: times it comes to the form of accusing the other
Speaker 1: side of what they're doing. And with with the red
Speaker 1: pill people, when they took the blue pill that told
Speaker 1: them like, this is your reality, is that you are
Speaker 1: the hero and everybody else is against you and there's
Speaker 1: a vast conspiracy trying to hold you down and not
Speaker 1: like that you are very privileged compared to a lot
Speaker 1: of the people around you. Uh that they they decided
Speaker 1: to call that red pilling when it's the exact opposite
Speaker 1: of that. Um yeah, yeah, Well, hopefully there's a way
Speaker 1: back for people, because it seems like I'm actually surprised
Speaker 1: after looking more and more like on these forums and
Speaker 1: things that there the way they're the group of people
Speaker 1: who are into the conspiracy theory, who are like legitimately
Speaker 1: trying to be like, guys, I'm pretty we've been had, yeah,
Speaker 1: and we actually need to start dealing with that, because
Speaker 1: like there was one where this the dad wrote He's like,
Speaker 1: I fully just you know, uh, scuttled my relationships to
Speaker 1: my kids in the pursuit of what I thought was
Speaker 1: the truth. And he's like, I have a lot to
Speaker 1: do because I'm realizing I've really massively cut down, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know what my future is because in search
Speaker 1: of this conspiracy theory, I've let my family go and
Speaker 1: now I realized that this is empty. I actually need
Speaker 1: to make amends to have my family as part of
Speaker 1: my life, because that's truly what matters right now. And
Speaker 1: we've been so I mean, there's all kinds, but it's
Speaker 1: interesting when you see that sort of being expressed like ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people need to depth the twelve step program for Q
Speaker 1: and on. I think people coming out of the Q thing.
Speaker 1: I also think that it's probably a sampling era a
Speaker 1: little bit in the sense that people who have chosen
Speaker 1: to just double down and bury their head in the
Speaker 1: CUE version of things. There's really not a way to
Speaker 1: express that in language that doesn't sound just completely on
Speaker 1: its surface inherently contradictory. And so the only people were
Speaker 1: hearing from are the ones who have reconciled the fact
Speaker 1: that they were living a yeah, yeah totally, but you know,
Speaker 1: so central I think to a lot of this QUE
Speaker 1: stuff is this idea that they've discovered that children are
Speaker 1: being abused all and it goes up to the highest,
Speaker 1: you know, levels in the land, and and I know
Speaker 1: that that's the thing, like I'll see um uh friends
Speaker 1: of friends who are mothers who are not conspiracy theorists.
Speaker 1: As far as I know, start posting stuff on Instagram
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, they're getting sucked into it.
Speaker 1: Stuff about traffic. I mean, yes, of course trafficking of
Speaker 1: kids and people exist, but I can just tell like,
Speaker 1: these are Q memes that you are You're not aware
Speaker 1: that you're reposting this stuff. And it's like, are the
Speaker 1: ones who are sort of waking up to haven't been had?
Speaker 1: Are they realizing that all of that stuff was not
Speaker 1: true they thought it was No. I think that's probably
Speaker 1: an interesting entry point because it's real and there's enough
Speaker 1: on in the real world to indicate that there's validity
Speaker 1: to those claims like of powerful people who have used children,
Speaker 1: just not the ones that they think it is right.
Speaker 1: It's when they go into this other thing of like
Speaker 1: this you know, emergency broadcast system and how the like
Speaker 1: tribunals were going to occur on the news and that's
Speaker 1: how Trump will stay in office. It's like a lot
Speaker 1: of I think those are the things that became like
Speaker 1: the loudest parts about Q and on and things like
Speaker 1: that over the last few months, and I think those
Speaker 1: are the elements that are like now they're really like
Speaker 1: holy shit, Like I was really into that part, but fuck,
Speaker 1: none of it happened. I mean it's isolated thing that
Speaker 1: mothering or parenting instinct of like caring for your child.
Speaker 1: And I mean it's the same thing as the anti
Speaker 1: vax er thing. It's like they figured out a way
Speaker 1: to uh and didn't figure it out. It's just almost
Speaker 1: like an evolutionary natural selection thing where this thing that
Speaker 1: prais on that very specific kind of universal feeling and
Speaker 1: kind of removes it from context. Like it's basically like
Speaker 1: parent caring for your child porn where it's like removed
Speaker 1: and just like sort of made very front and center
Speaker 1: and kind of cheapened, so that that's like you're just
Speaker 1: like playing on that emotion completely out of context in
Speaker 1: a way that's manipulated. Yes, yes, all right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back and we're back. Okay,
Speaker 1: So let's talk about James Lankford. He is a senator
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma, and you know, I think he's a good
Speaker 1: example of like a broader discussion of how politicians on
Speaker 1: the right or conservatives like will never accept how their
Speaker 1: ideology and policies over the last century or so, I
Speaker 1: have just been an actual manifestation of white supremacy because
Speaker 1: it's it's because it's just like, why, I'm not racist,
Speaker 1: I just think the election was stolen, or this has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with race, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because whether they are because they are so ignorant that
Speaker 1: they cannot see the complexity of what they're caught in,
Speaker 1: or they are just just that willfully racist and are like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but I'm gonna be a little deceptive about
Speaker 1: it and use these little word games to dance my
Speaker 1: way out of actually saying, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: all school. I don't think. I don't think black and
Speaker 1: brown people or anybody who's not of my certain culture,
Speaker 1: uh to prosper. So. James Lankford, I think is a
Speaker 1: good example because he's doing the thing where he's pretending
Speaker 1: like he doesn't know what any of this is. Um.
Speaker 1: He signed on at first to that Sedition Caucus letter
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, I'm gonna be one of the
Speaker 1: senators who's gonna fucking we're trying to reverse the course
Speaker 1: of this election, and I will use my vote to
Speaker 1: do that. And then once the ship went down, Uh,
Speaker 1: he reversed course. He was like he's one of the
Speaker 1: few people is like, Okay, that was that a little
Speaker 1: too much? A little too much? Okay, I see what
Speaker 1: I think. Uh, even for me, that was a little
Speaker 1: that was a bridge too far, which is interesting. So
Speaker 1: even though he tried to at the last minute find
Speaker 1: his spirit and soul, a lot of people were like, hmmm,
Speaker 1: I don't think you can escape this, especially the black
Speaker 1: people of Oklahoma. Um, they were very upset as a
Speaker 1: lot of just Oklahoman's were as well, just realizing what
Speaker 1: their senator was participating in, essentially making like, you know,
Speaker 1: as as much as he would say, we just got
Speaker 1: to make sure the election was fair, or we have
Speaker 1: to restore the people's faith in elections, it was just
Speaker 1: about making sure that minority rule was still effective, you know,
Speaker 1: because for a lot of these people watching Georgia go
Speaker 1: full blue faced bust down Fatiana without protesters and violence
Speaker 1: and things like that, and it just simply off the
Speaker 1: strength of you know, people of color getting like maneuvering
Speaker 1: out maneuvering voter suppression. That was shocking. They're like, wait,
Speaker 1: we have all this ship set up so we can
Speaker 1: keep it at least grid locked, but now that it's happening,
Speaker 1: it's like there's a sense of panic because that is
Speaker 1: starting to erode. The effectiveness of that is starting to erode.
Speaker 1: Is more people are also starting to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have voting power. So this was all about taking
Speaker 1: away the votes of these marginalized people. So because of
Speaker 1: the pressure he was under from people like disgusted with
Speaker 1: his vote, he puts out this sort of deflective you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize what was going on letter quote. What
Speaker 1: I did not realize was of all of the national
Speaker 1: conversation about states like Georgia, Pennsylvanian, Michigan was seen as
Speaker 1: casting doubt on the validity of votes coming out of
Speaker 1: predominantly black communities like Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Detroit. After decades
Speaker 1: of fighting for voting rights, many black friends in Oklahoma
Speaker 1: saw this as a direct attack on their right to vote,
Speaker 1: for their vote to matter, and even a belief that
Speaker 1: their votes made an election in our country illegitimate. I
Speaker 1: can assure you my intent to give a vote, to
Speaker 1: give a voice to Oklahomans who had questions what who
Speaker 1: had questions, was never also an intent to diminish the
Speaker 1: voice of any Black American. I should have recognized how
Speaker 1: what I said and what I did could be interpreted
Speaker 1: by many of you. I deeply regret my blindness to
Speaker 1: that perception, and for that, I am sorry. The Tulsa
Speaker 1: massacre is a hundred years old this year. I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry that you feel that way. Yeah, that's what he
Speaker 1: said is I'm sorry you feel that way. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what that apology was. I'm sorry that you saw that
Speaker 1: for that. But I'm gonna say it's not um so
Speaker 1: by smell gas what was going on. It's I'm just
Speaker 1: curious what this blind spott like do you think, you know,
Speaker 1: even Tory and your work encountering interacting with all kinds
Speaker 1: of people, ideologies and racism. What the split is of
Speaker 1: people who are like, you know, actual truly out here
Speaker 1: to ride for racism and the ones that are so
Speaker 1: ignorant and caught up in this like team sports mentality
Speaker 1: that they just can't budge from beginning to see any
Speaker 1: nuance of anything. I don't know, I always trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what the what it is with us senators
Speaker 1: like no, that's all bullshit exactly, Like I'm like, okay, no,
Speaker 1: because you're the smartest racist, um yeah exactly. You know,
Speaker 1: it really really depends I think it varies a lot
Speaker 1: from from place to place. Especially I think that they're, um,
Speaker 1: you know, Oregon kind of has this reputation as being
Speaker 1: like wildly progressive, and it's it's not right, Like we've
Speaker 1: got we have plenty of people here who want to
Speaker 1: disenfranchise people. Um and you know, even people like on
Speaker 1: the east side of the state, they're like, well, you're
Speaker 1: not voting the way that we want and we should
Speaker 1: be able to be in charge even though there's fewer
Speaker 1: people here, So we're just gonna go join Idaho like yus, Like,
Speaker 1: that's not how this works, right, But I mean I
Speaker 1: think it is. It really just kind of depends, but
Speaker 1: there are definitely I think the people like the higher
Speaker 1: up you get, the more people are they know what
Speaker 1: they're doing, right of course, right like the like it's
Speaker 1: it's I would say, people kind of like on the
Speaker 1: lower end of the socio economic ladder, right, the people
Speaker 1: that are used by the white people, that are used
Speaker 1: by powerful people to like oppress through the oppression work
Speaker 1: for them so they don't have to get their hands dirty.
Speaker 1: Like I don't think that most of them, no, explicitly, right,
Speaker 1: I think if if you sat down with them, you
Speaker 1: might be able to get them to a point where
Speaker 1: they're like, Okay, I see if you're saying, like, I
Speaker 1: see how this adds up, I disagree with you still
Speaker 1: and still, you know, these are so many because I see,
Speaker 1: like the one thing, especially in looking at like, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of right wing chatter on the internet and
Speaker 1: just seeing how that conversation is going, a lot of
Speaker 1: them have arrived to the point of just saying, uh, well,
Speaker 1: every if if we don't agree with them, we're racist,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And that's and like and
Speaker 1: everything's white supremacy because it is. But it's almost like
Speaker 1: how do you talk to someone who you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it was like it's like intervening with someone
Speaker 1: Sometimes you say drinking problem and it's like the alarn't
Speaker 1: like they that can't be heard or whatever it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a shutdown and again, and so no meaningful
Speaker 1: communication can occur at that point. And I'm also curious,
Speaker 1: like is there because I also understand if for them
Speaker 1: there they've completely been robbed of any context nuance that
Speaker 1: true them. It's just saying every they say, it's just
Speaker 1: that well it isn't because I'm not I've never participated
Speaker 1: in a lynch mob or I've never said this, so
Speaker 1: like that's just getting fired up without like. So that's
Speaker 1: why I'm always just like, I don't even know how
Speaker 1: a corner can begin begin to be turned if I don't,
Speaker 1: and then it's almost like and I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: coddle racist people, but I'm like, is there another way
Speaker 1: that it has to be explained to even begin for
Speaker 1: something to like thaw or begin to melt. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's why I'm just like, Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: really sure, because it's like we do. I mean, working
Speaker 1: class white people and working class people of color have
Speaker 1: so much to make common cause over right, Like they
Speaker 1: deal with so many of the same issues. They both
Speaker 1: have a government that doesn't give a funk about them,
Speaker 1: um and like their needs and how they're going to
Speaker 1: pay their bills and get healthcare right, So I think
Speaker 1: that I don't think that they're going to hear it
Speaker 1: from people of color. I really don't write, and they don't.
Speaker 1: They feel very sensitive, I think fairly um about being
Speaker 1: taught down to and and like condescended to because they
Speaker 1: feel like rich people already do that to them, um,
Speaker 1: and so I think that that was kind of I
Speaker 1: think that was like a big part of why they
Speaker 1: rallied behind Trump was they were like, oh, he's going
Speaker 1: to be a bully for us, right, Like he's going
Speaker 1: to throw people around for us. Um. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that there are conversations that can
Speaker 1: be had, but I don't think that those conversations starting
Speaker 1: out like I think that's white people work essentially, is
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Hey, look like we're all getting screwed
Speaker 1: over if we all just work together on this one issue, right,
Speaker 1: And that's what's been most effective, like at least in
Speaker 1: the research that I've seen in the US, is that
Speaker 1: you know, you don't have to do like the party thing.
Speaker 1: Just find a bunch of people who are affected by
Speaker 1: one single issue and make that the thing that you
Speaker 1: focus on. The everybody im board with whatever it is,
Speaker 1: right like labor rights or minimum wage or health care access,
Speaker 1: and you just focus on that one thing that that
Speaker 1: can actually get people to work together um as opposed
Speaker 1: to being like, well you just need to be a
Speaker 1: left just right, or you need to be more progressive,
Speaker 1: or you're just right. Because it's like you're What they
Speaker 1: hear is you're too stupid to know like what's best
Speaker 1: for you, And well we do. I mean, I do
Speaker 1: believe that they're voting against their own self interest, right. Um.
Speaker 1: I think that we also have to engage with the
Speaker 1: fact that, you know, if you feel like someone has
Speaker 1: said to you, well, you're stupid, but actually sit down,
Speaker 1: because I need to tell you what's what, Like, people
Speaker 1: aren't really going to go for that. I think that
Speaker 1: there has to be Um, I think, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's white people work. I think that those conversations had
Speaker 1: to be had and I don't know that again it's
Speaker 1: going to be like a political party thing, but I
Speaker 1: think on issues you can get people who would identify
Speaker 1: as conservative to make common cause with more compressive ideas
Speaker 1: because like that anger of not having ship, or feeling
Speaker 1: like your bills are adding up or whatever is being
Speaker 1: reprojected onto this like fucking Schumer blood ship and then
Speaker 1: like at a certain point, like it's gonna hollow you
Speaker 1: out because you can only without actually addressing your material
Speaker 1: needs that potentially could be solved through better policy, right right.
Speaker 1: And a lot of it too is they see they're like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, minorities don't deserve assistance, right, and like why
Speaker 1: should they be able to cut in line? I mean
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the exact same thing with the
Speaker 1: COVID vaccine of like, well how come those people get
Speaker 1: to cut in line? Like what are they more important
Speaker 1: than me? Um? So I think, you know, there's very
Speaker 1: much that attitude of like, well, like undocumented people, that's
Speaker 1: not what they say, or stealing all of our health care.
Speaker 1: So I'm opposed to universal health care because I don't
Speaker 1: want illegals to have it. Like that's that's an argue.
Speaker 1: That's a very common argument, right, um, And it's one
Speaker 1: of those things you have to explain, was like this
Speaker 1: isn't as it's not zero sum, like health care isn't
Speaker 1: just because someone who is undocumented gets healthcare doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you don't also get healthare right exactly? So I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think if you make it about the issue, like
Speaker 1: a specific issue, instead of about politics, you get a
Speaker 1: lot farther with that. I think just gotta be gotta
Speaker 1: say everything for everyone, that's all. I'm honest, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Because it's true. That's why I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's this team sports ship, the second, it's attached to
Speaker 1: this person is a Democrat, this person because it happens,
Speaker 1: it's it's all over the place. I mean, yes, like
Speaker 1: it's but this is what it is, you know, like
Speaker 1: because this is everyone's retreating to their corners. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like if there is a way to just
Speaker 1: like just to speak to the human exist, your condition,
Speaker 1: the existence, the lived experience of being a person being
Speaker 1: like more food, you know what I mean? Fucking free food?
Speaker 1: What free food? Yeah? For who? For who? Anybody? You
Speaker 1: need food? Come through, bro, you got it for you.
Speaker 1: What do you need? What you need? What you need?
Speaker 1: We got it, what you need, We got it party,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And you hope. But again,
Speaker 1: because it's a zero sum game, it's almost like that
Speaker 1: conservatives look at even generosity as still being like, well,
Speaker 1: it's finite, you know, And that's what that's what they're
Speaker 1: told by their political leaders quote unquote, is that if
Speaker 1: other people get some, that's less for you. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: we're not going to give anybody anything like that's the
Speaker 1: that's the part they don't say. It's like, Okay, so
Speaker 1: all the massive wealth hoarding, they're like, oh, don't look
Speaker 1: at all this wealth hoarding happening right here. It's the
Speaker 1: same conversation anybody has, most people, I think everybody has
Speaker 1: if they ever asked for a raise at their job, Well,
Speaker 1: you know, if we if we did that then or
Speaker 1: I just got to see, there's just not enough right now,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like it's and it's I
Speaker 1: and if if you were talking to a CEO, they're
Speaker 1: not having those conversations, were like, well, could they make
Speaker 1: less and then wouldn't that create the money? Isn't that
Speaker 1: a way to do that for me? Oh well, but
Speaker 1: first of all, what the shut the funk up. We're
Speaker 1: never going to do that, just sort of like where
Speaker 1: we're at, like we don't even have the imagination as
Speaker 1: a nation to be like, yeah, but what about you?
Speaker 1: Though you got it? You got it, so run your ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because we don't got it,
Speaker 1: because because we're tired of being told, hey, you know
Speaker 1: if you know, because if I do that, then this
Speaker 1: guy is gonna want eyes for their kid, and then
Speaker 1: the the other person wants a neck brace. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like you funk that, but you live in a
Speaker 1: fucking golden whatever the fuck? Uh you know, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: what we hope the discourse can begin to like more
Speaker 1: people have that imagination to be like all the things
Speaker 1: are possible. It's just that like we got to stop
Speaker 1: acting like you want Elon Musk to have you know,
Speaker 1: eleventy billion dollars and that's like his right to do that,
Speaker 1: or you know, Jeff Bays, any of these fucking people.
Speaker 1: Just those graphs showing how how these billionaires made out
Speaker 1: over the last year, Like would I don't know how
Speaker 1: you look at that and think that's cool. That's cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like that's cool. That's cool that the people who already
Speaker 1: had more money than they could ever spend in their lives,
Speaker 1: um like, are doubling their their net worth or adding
Speaker 1: increasing it by and and then look at what's happening,
Speaker 1: because it's truely, they're drinking our fucking milkshake. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. They're drinking our fucking milkshake from all
Speaker 1: the way across the room in their mansions. And then
Speaker 1: we're still over here fighting each other not realizing like, actually,
Speaker 1: you're drinking the milkshake, motherfucker. They're drinking the milkshake over there.
Speaker 1: The billionaires are, they've been they're out there, they're fucking
Speaker 1: drinking so much of it, Yeah, pointing fingers at each
Speaker 1: other when no one has the ability to drink the
Speaker 1: milkshake anyway, This Paul Thomas, this Paul Thomas Anderson metaphor
Speaker 1: brought to you by a stoner bro You know, I
Speaker 1: got a look. I gotta give it up from my
Speaker 1: valley brethren. In terms of like the the racists who
Speaker 1: felt empowered and like legitimized by the Trump presidency, there
Speaker 1: does seem like there's like an a very immediate reaction
Speaker 1: of either crawling back in their holes or being like,
Speaker 1: but what what what happened? Like there? You know, there's
Speaker 1: still the people we we talked about how Q isn't
Speaker 1: going anywhere, Q and on isn't going anywhere. But there
Speaker 1: are like a lot of posts from people in the
Speaker 1: Q forums who are like, I mean, there's legitimately a
Speaker 1: post that says, huh, I guess we were wrong. Like
Speaker 1: there the guy says, funk this sham. I want to
Speaker 1: puke like it. Just I couldn't. I couldn't stop reading
Speaker 1: these screen caps from Q forums of where's the damn storm?
Speaker 1: What happened? Why didn't the plan work? The number one
Speaker 1: post on the Q and On like with their version
Speaker 1: of Reddit is just guys question work. That's beautiful. I
Speaker 1: mean if it's also nice to see or like kind
Speaker 1: of heartening to see that d platforming really like it
Speaker 1: really does do something to properly d platform and it's
Speaker 1: like it's still I'll never get over how long it
Speaker 1: took um all the social media billionaires to d platform Trump.
Speaker 1: But it's like had an immediate effect. It's and it's
Speaker 1: i mean, didn't what's his name Watkins made a post
Speaker 1: as well, Who's Watkins? The Ron Watkins they say is cute?
Speaker 1: Is cute? Yeah? Yeah, And he was just like, well
Speaker 1: then like the vibe of the boss was like Q
Speaker 1: and On was was it was more about the friends
Speaker 1: we made actual major Q and On Booster, who some
Speaker 1: suspected of being Q himself. Post Uh posted a note
Speaker 1: of resignation on his Telegram channel and is uh quote,
Speaker 1: we have a new president sworn in and it is
Speaker 1: our responsibility as citizens to respect the Constitution as we
Speaker 1: enter into the next administration. Please remember all the friends
Speaker 1: and happy memories we made together over the past few years.
Speaker 1: What a piece of ship along the way. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: also now to be like, let's let's respect the constitution.
Speaker 1: I don't want any liability here. The words I'm saying
Speaker 1: is play nice now, even though we were fucking gassing
Speaker 1: you all up on this bullshit. I love also in
Speaker 1: that the screen grab you have from that queue forum
Speaker 1: where someone was like, do any and all federal agents
Speaker 1: browsing this website? Every post I have ever made is satire.
Speaker 1: They're doing that, and they're doing that online craft. You
Speaker 1: may not use my post to incriminate me. Uh, not fair,
Speaker 1: not fair. I am sovereign. There's just one when you
Speaker 1: get a little too let's it loud and then get bad. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a there's one section I just want to read
Speaker 1: word for word. Well, I'm the official laughing stock of
Speaker 1: my family. Now awesome. And then someone this is embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Here come all excuses now. And then somebody was responding
Speaker 1: to a comment, so where's the shockun awe question mark?
Speaker 1: And I guess this was like at eleven thirty, and
Speaker 1: this person responded. Q also said noon exclamation point. I
Speaker 1: will start kicking people, kicking people for their attitudes. We
Speaker 1: are patriots. You stand here and hold the line with us,
Speaker 1: or you can leave your choice. Uh, and Noon came
Speaker 1: in with and it went part he was not heard from? Uh,
Speaker 1: let's and the final one in that is OMG, none
Speaker 1: of this was real. I mean, you know what if
Speaker 1: you have somebody that is willing to own up that
Speaker 1: they came this far and it didn't happen, Um, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe she'd be like, Okay, so do you want to
Speaker 1: talk about how do you want to make amends? Now?
Speaker 1: That's the thing I'm trying to figure out, right because
Speaker 1: if clearly there are people who are like truly or
Speaker 1: like what the fuck I played myself there? I feel
Speaker 1: like there has to be a way to, like you
Speaker 1: want to capitalize on that energy to try and get
Speaker 1: people to return to the information age on some level.
Speaker 1: But Jesus, I do want to just play this one
Speaker 1: thing of this Q and on guy who's so disappointed
Speaker 1: at Noon who is posting and just like come on, guys,
Speaker 1: like let's just to stay together. Well, Patriots were all
Speaker 1: probably doing the same thing watching this inauguration. You know,
Speaker 1: we've been told to watch it carefully because a lot
Speaker 1: of it could be nonsense, fake. Um. You know, only
Speaker 1: time will tell, But you know I'm in Scott McKay.
Speaker 1: They've all told us that this thing has to go
Speaker 1: all the way through for it to be completed. The
Speaker 1: inaugurgation before makes a move. So I think we're all
Speaker 1: sitting here waiting, waiting for something to happen. I don't
Speaker 1: think this is over yet, fellas, guys and girls, Okay,
Speaker 1: thanks inclusive. What about the non binary que people? Know? Okay,
Speaker 1: just making sure we're que stands on that, alright, ladies
Speaker 1: and a gentleman. But wow, they were yeah, they were really.
Speaker 1: The goal posts were shifting, and like there was some
Speaker 1: other people on Twitter who were monitoring in real time
Speaker 1: showing that they're like there was a there was like
Speaker 1: a very distinct moment at noon where a couple of
Speaker 1: people tried to push the goalposts even further and people like, no,
Speaker 1: fuck this, and like I started devouring the fucking like
Speaker 1: the thread. Don't worry about it. It's just front late
Speaker 1: military precision. I do wonder like if there's there, like
Speaker 1: there's a clear need to like do some mass de radicalization,
Speaker 1: especially for people who are newly um saying, like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: everything that I have been like burning every bridge in
Speaker 1: my life and giving into every prejudice I've ever had
Speaker 1: was based on this gigantic lie, and it's like, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not it's not. I wonder if there will be
Speaker 1: some sort of figure or ideology that emerges that is
Speaker 1: actually helpful in de radicalizing. I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's so like what what is gonna What are which
Speaker 1: direction are are these people gonna go? Right there? Does
Speaker 1: seem like some of the institutions are losing momentum, Like
Speaker 1: even Fox News is now like it's always way out
Speaker 1: in front, first in the ratings, and now it's lagging.
Speaker 1: It's third ever since the election. I think just the
Speaker 1: fact that they don't have a coherent truth they can
Speaker 1: kind of rally behind, like there, uh, the news part
Speaker 1: of their reporting, like the stuff that happens during the
Speaker 1: day just now completely contradicts the stuff that they're saying
Speaker 1: at night. Um. Tucker Carlson is usually way out front,
Speaker 1: number one in the ratings. He's now like fourth, Um,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean that you're you're seeing even like
Speaker 1: polling shift around About twenty percent of Republicans say they
Speaker 1: approve of conviction in the latest poll, uh, conviction of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump in the in the Senate, which is an
Speaker 1: increase from fourteen percent of Republicans saying that uh, just
Speaker 1: like a week before. And that's that's you know, the
Speaker 1: fact that it's moving in that direction as we get
Speaker 1: further away from um, the event is I think somewhat significant, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's you'd hope. And that's probably like the
Speaker 1: self preservation mechanism of a lot of these fucking ghouls
Speaker 1: who are just absolute monsters the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: being like, Okay, I'm gonna lean hard into this thing
Speaker 1: and then maybe that will absolve me, or at least
Speaker 1: people will weigh that against you know, the all the
Speaker 1: dumb shit I did because like we have this weird
Speaker 1: thing in America too, or like you could have a
Speaker 1: lifetime of being racist, but you could be like, no,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think black lives matter, and suddenly
Speaker 1: it's if it completely erased your history or like how
Speaker 1: you've spoken about things. Not that people can change, but
Speaker 1: there's a very cynical way of like trying to suddenly
Speaker 1: be like, no, I'm on this side, to try and
Speaker 1: appear like you have been correct, and I maybe there's
Speaker 1: that and maybe we just benefit from that that they
Speaker 1: just they so badly want to hide their own sins
Speaker 1: that they they're just like fucking all vote for impeachment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but then we will continue to pretend. I'm sure a
Speaker 1: lot of people continue to pretend or treat those their
Speaker 1: fellow senators, Congress people like oh, that was so great
Speaker 1: of you to do that, even though like you raw
Speaker 1: rod the insurrection and we almost all got got that's
Speaker 1: I mean, then that's what's so infuriating about the unity
Speaker 1: message that's being made literally two weeks after a violent insurrection,
Speaker 1: like funk off, you know, funk off. Um yeah, that's
Speaker 1: never not going to be fucking infuriating. Guys, Hug this
Speaker 1: weed whacker that's on real close to your face. It's
Speaker 1: the weed whacker. Unity with it. No, it's fun their No,
Speaker 1: they turn it off or take the gas out and
Speaker 1: then maybe we can talk, right. Yeah, it's it's so frustrating,
Speaker 1: and it's like and it's so frustrating to have like
Speaker 1: people in your life who were like, why aren't you like,
Speaker 1: come on, let's all, let's all hold hands, like it's
Speaker 1: gonna be fine. It's like that, that's not that's not
Speaker 1: two weeks later language period, like boy if um yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to. I need to check in with my
Speaker 1: family member who went QUE and stopped talking to all
Speaker 1: of us. I wonder how she's doing today. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean there were people who are like on like extremism Twitter,
Speaker 1: and they're like, you know, if if someone reaches out
Speaker 1: to you who went Q and tries to come back,
Speaker 1: like trying maybe make it, if if it feels sincere,
Speaker 1: maybe you have a chance at it. But you never know.
Speaker 1: But it's like, it's weird now that we're also finding,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to find like our empathy for these
Speaker 1: people who are completely lied to, but but the fallout
Speaker 1: of their misinformation diet was translating into direct violence. It's
Speaker 1: it's all like a very fucking weird. It feels like
Speaker 1: a fucking comic book where like like a Damon Lindeloff
Speaker 1: show or like we're having an out deal with all
Speaker 1: these people who are like wearing white all the time
Speaker 1: and not talking and smoking cigarettes. I'm like, okay, hey, um,
Speaker 1: you've done black pilling a second. Let's be happy. I
Speaker 1: don't know who how do we? How do I do this?
Speaker 1: It's hard. Yeah, it's it's hard because you It's it's
Speaker 1: like it feels like basically impossible to it's it seems like, okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm off here, but just the way even the
Speaker 1: tone of like the embarrassing messages on those forums is like, oh,
Speaker 1: we were wrong, so like sorry are bad? Forgive us
Speaker 1: right away, and it's like that can't be how it goes.
Speaker 1: But then like how do you access your empathy to
Speaker 1: like get they But it's like it's I don't know,
Speaker 1: just the expectation of like, oh, whoop, sees, I have
Speaker 1: been part of a violent death gult for four years
Speaker 1: and saying the most fucked up ship you can imagine
Speaker 1: and believing it and now whoops, I'm sorry, so you
Speaker 1: have to forgive me right away? Or was like yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it just feels like I don't know it just like
Speaker 1: forgive me kill you. Yeah, kind of like I I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't have it. Yeah, it's early doors.
Speaker 1: It's early doors. It's only fucking I D plus one,
Speaker 1: so you know guaranteed everyone's feelings are going to change
Speaker 1: on it. But yeah, I mean, I just think of
Speaker 1: how much things have shifted since the sixth of like
Speaker 1: our understanding of everything, like what the funk to like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is putrid. So yeah, we'll see.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can you see a lot of journalists
Speaker 1: on Twitter right now who are like, if you've got
Speaker 1: Q relatives, uh and you've checked on, hit me up,
Speaker 1: trying to write an article on this right now. And
Speaker 1: I think that's like every journalist is trying to time
Speaker 1: wants to go to a Q diner to check in
Speaker 1: with all the Trump supporters. Can't wait for that episode
Speaker 1: of the Daily Yeah, we went to a QUE diner.
Speaker 1: It's like just or just don't And they had some
Speaker 1: interesting thoughts, they had some pretty good ideas. They just
Speaker 1: wanted better efficient government. And it turns out that they're
Speaker 1: actually really sorry. Yes, I'm very sorry. Sorry, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break, will be right back and
Speaker 1: we're back. Uh, what is something you think is underrated? Teresa? Underrated?
Speaker 1: Or what did I say for this? Oh? Um? Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do the sentence version telling me if it
Speaker 1: makes sense social media as systems? Does this make sense
Speaker 1: they're doing to ex explain more? No, that's good, okay,
Speaker 1: because I know we all hate on Twitter and TikTok
Speaker 1: or whatever for the individual like toxicity that we get.
Speaker 1: But recently, as I came on last time a while
Speaker 1: ago talk about AI and I believe it or not,
Speaker 1: journeyed further into this depth. But you know how neural
Speaker 1: networks are like systems like you're like the short version
Speaker 1: is like your brain has organic systems like your olympic system,
Speaker 1: your prefrontal cortex, and then organs or whatever, but they
Speaker 1: all work together to make you. And I think we're
Speaker 1: getting to the point where social media, like platforms like Twitter, TikTok, Facebook,
Speaker 1: they're not all just ways for humans individually to interact
Speaker 1: or create communities anymore. The platform itself has become a
Speaker 1: system like people using it actually change the platform as
Speaker 1: an organ like one will eventually function more like the
Speaker 1: heart and the brain, and they're not all going to
Speaker 1: sub in for each other. We're already getting to that point,
Speaker 1: like TikTok isn't just one where people who like social
Speaker 1: media get on it. People get on it to do TikTok,
Speaker 1: whereas it used to be you followed the new thing.
Speaker 1: So I think we're getting to that point, and I
Speaker 1: think it's a good thing because I think it'll take
Speaker 1: away the individualistic, like negative stuff and make it so
Speaker 1: we all are almost like cells. And atoms adding our
Speaker 1: positive you know, the positivity will win out because the
Speaker 1: flow is going to go towards like human nature in
Speaker 1: hopefully survival way, like the way that your brain adapts
Speaker 1: to survive. I think these platforms are going to become
Speaker 1: interactive systems in the internet. Body does that makes sense?
Speaker 1: Looking very out into the future, I'm like, woke, we're there. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like people are sacrificing their own individuality for like whatever
Speaker 1: is going to make the overall system like operate more efficiently,
Speaker 1: or whatever is going to like get more attention in
Speaker 1: the overall system, like on Twitter or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But I don't think it's a bad thing. It's not
Speaker 1: that individuals you'll lose anything. It's that in the same
Speaker 1: way that you know, you jack, when your body is healthy,
Speaker 1: your heart's healthy, everything benefits. So by acting in your
Speaker 1: own best interests, we are now connected at a threshold
Speaker 1: that will keep the body surviving, which is like human
Speaker 1: nature in the Internet. Yeah, I mean, it's it's super interesting.
Speaker 1: I could see a future where people are harnessing that
Speaker 1: to do good and bad because it is like people
Speaker 1: have you know, been like when are we going to
Speaker 1: reach the singularity? Win as a I gonna happen, and
Speaker 1: like suddenly, you know, artificial intelligence is beyond human comprehension.
Speaker 1: And I feel like this is a form of the
Speaker 1: singularity where we are all individual neurons like contributing to
Speaker 1: an overall like sort of hive mind organism. I think
Speaker 1: that's yeah, But don't worry the the the AI won't
Speaker 1: take over in an evil way. Once you get there,
Speaker 1: you'll let go of your ego. I think I'm already there,
Speaker 1: and then you'll realize that, uh, if you believe in
Speaker 1: the common good, it will keep going that way. But
Speaker 1: it is really scary. Yeah, that's scary. Yeah, I'm just
Speaker 1: because it's hard for me to think of these platforms
Speaker 1: working without people's egos being healthy too, you know, because
Speaker 1: I think it cancels out at a certain point. Well,
Speaker 1: so like for example, Trump never got on TikTok, and
Speaker 1: people have many reasons why I like data, but I
Speaker 1: also think I think he's probably been on it secretly. TikTok.
Speaker 1: The like algorithm shows you you're subconscious, like it knows
Speaker 1: you better, not in a way like that Facebook tells
Speaker 1: you what to buy in a way that it will
Speaker 1: literally be like we know you were in an abusive relationship,
Speaker 1: whether you say or not, and then they'll start showing
Speaker 1: you how to heal. And I think if you're a
Speaker 1: narcissist or someone like with Trump tendencies, you're gonna see
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff you don't want to see because
Speaker 1: your subconscious is reflecting the parts that you don't want
Speaker 1: to see. And so I don't think people like him
Speaker 1: want to be on TikTok, right, But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: from the like, But then there are people who participate
Speaker 1: on the content creation side, good or bad too that
Speaker 1: I also see, like your ego to absolutely needs to
Speaker 1: be healthy enough to sort of continue in the pattern
Speaker 1: of like putting yourself out there for the views, to
Speaker 1: keep sort of feeding that relationship to the platform. But
Speaker 1: I think it I think it all depends. Like you're saying,
Speaker 1: there are people in it for different reasons. Other people
Speaker 1: might not be as ego centered when they're participating. But
Speaker 1: I think one of the reasons why I've even like
Speaker 1: my relationship over time with social media has changes, Like
Speaker 1: there was an element about like reinforcing my ego to
Speaker 1: the posting that was not was like not very healthy
Speaker 1: for me or like what was was feeding a lot
Speaker 1: of other like subconscious insecurities or whatever, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh god, this is like torturous in a way. But
Speaker 1: I think we're all made differently, you know. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: I agree. I definitely had moments of like yeah, posting
Speaker 1: kind of like subtweets, But I would also argue that
Speaker 1: I had to go through that phase of my life
Speaker 1: to now come out on the other side. So not
Speaker 1: to say you have to, but if you lead into
Speaker 1: all your tendencies, you end up healing yourself faster. I
Speaker 1: don't know, as that was really bananas, but I I
Speaker 1: feel like I do feel like it's scott and smoother
Speaker 1: using social media in that way. Sure, I mean I
Speaker 1: think it's more more, uh, it's less bananas than just
Speaker 1: assuming that all these social media platforms are just like
Speaker 1: there and not a acting us in some profound way
Speaker 1: as a as a society like that. I mean, there
Speaker 1: was a news story over the weekend that Trump being banned,
Speaker 1: like disinformation about the election went down, and I reply
Speaker 1: to that was like, do we will we look back
Speaker 1: on the social media era as like the way somebody
Speaker 1: who is in recovery looks back on like a you
Speaker 1: know what they did while they were under the influence,
Speaker 1: and but I I also feel like that might have
Speaker 1: been specific to having a president who was using social
Speaker 1: media in that way. But there is there is that
Speaker 1: power right there. There is the ability for somebody to
Speaker 1: come in and completely take over if it's not regulated
Speaker 1: in some way that is has an eye towards the
Speaker 1: overall health of society as opposed to the you know
Speaker 1: what is driving revenue. Well, I see it as the
Speaker 1: same way as like when you first get your trust broken,
Speaker 1: you might be like, oh, I better not trust anymore.
Speaker 1: But then over time, when you start leaning into learning lessons,
Speaker 1: you realize, like, trust is one of my good qualities.
Speaker 1: I just have to learn how to discern who to trust.
Speaker 1: And I think Trump taking advantage of a lot of
Speaker 1: his followers is similar, Like they do have trauma bonds,
Speaker 1: but he it's not. The idea isn't to never trust,
Speaker 1: is to figure out how to like spot the red flags,
Speaker 1: because the trust part will actually make the community stronger
Speaker 1: if people know how to discern. I don't know, now
Speaker 1: that sounds really boring. I am a comedian, but I
Speaker 1: haven't done and that's almost a year there is a
Speaker 1: mirror to it, but it requires a level of self
Speaker 1: awareness and openness to self examination, I think, to get
Speaker 1: those lessons out of it because many people don't, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I worry that there's a lot of like I've noticed
Speaker 1: in pop culture there being a trend of The only
Speaker 1: example that's to mind is Memento, But like, I think
Speaker 1: there are a lot of movies where it's like people
Speaker 1: intentionally ignore something to like give their life meaning they like.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that is a reflection of something
Speaker 1: we're seeing more and more as technology and culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like intentional cognitive dissonance, which I think could get you
Speaker 1: in trouble on the what what you're talking about? Can
Speaker 1: I steal a minute of the show just to talk
Speaker 1: parent child programming? Alison? Did your child watch Blippy at all? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had a big Blippy phase and then he came
Speaker 1: out of it, and then just like three days ago,
Speaker 1: he asked to watch Blippy again. So we're headed to Blippyville.
Speaker 1: Did you know about the scandal? Yes? I did, and
Speaker 1: I found out about this. I love it, tell them
Speaker 1: because this is too good to be true. Blippy is
Speaker 1: a dude who just it's like it's the way entertainment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the way entertainment works in like the digital age
Speaker 1: where he was just like a cool uncle who was
Speaker 1: making videos for his nephews to entertain them and became
Speaker 1: like a viral sensation. And so now he has like
Speaker 1: a whole children's entertainment media YouTube empire. And then it
Speaker 1: comes out that in the early teens two thousand thirteen video, Uh,
Speaker 1: there's a video of him taking a ship on his
Speaker 1: friend's ass. Right, So his name is Steve, his real
Speaker 1: name is Stephen John's and he was a gross out comedian.
Speaker 1: What was his he has stage name, I don't know,
Speaker 1: do you remember? Yeah, it was Ploppy, Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: ploppy before oh Man, oh my god Boy and underwear
Speaker 1: Man I think were his nicknames, or at least those
Speaker 1: were the videos that got him. Steven J. Grossman, that's
Speaker 1: what it was called himself, Stephen J. Gross No, sorry,
Speaker 1: Stephen John is his He was born as Stephen Grossman.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's even a third or fourth name
Speaker 1: that he went by. Um no, I hear it is sorry,
Speaker 1: Steazy Grossman. Steazyman. You know that's a real nickname that
Speaker 1: he had in high school. Steazy Grossman. It's amazing that
Speaker 1: he didn't even put a dent in his success as
Speaker 1: a children's entertainer. Well, I think the two things were
Speaker 1: not like nobody knew about them, that they were the
Speaker 1: same person for a little while, and then it's just
Speaker 1: coming out. But yeah, I guess it came out in
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, and you're right, it hasn't really made a dent.
Speaker 1: He's still Uh, he's still that dude. But the video
Speaker 1: wasn't like, Okay, I know you said he took a
Speaker 1: dump on his friend's ass. Dude, he was doing a
Speaker 1: parody Harlem Shake video. Yeah, that really kind of comes
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. Uh to to to quote to quote
Speaker 1: BuzzFeed News. Uh, in a hard R rated twist in
Speaker 1: a two thousand thirteen video that BuzzFeed News has reviewed, uh,
Speaker 1: Stephen Blippy John takes an explosive diarrhea ship on his
Speaker 1: nude friend's ass and a truly shocking rendition of the
Speaker 1: Harlem Shake meat. Uh So yeah, I do love BuzzFeed
Speaker 1: News is uh like ability to kind of code switch
Speaker 1: between BuzzFeed News has learned and review footage and then
Speaker 1: being like diary a ship, a new friends assum interesting
Speaker 1: that that's hard are. I mean, I guess that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mean feel like it's if that if I suddenly
Speaker 1: saw that, I would feel like I need more warning
Speaker 1: than just an R rating. Yeah. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a hard R. I I think that is poor writing
Speaker 1: on on whoever wrote that BuzzFeed News articles to the topless.
Speaker 1: Oh she's great, So it's a little bit. It's a
Speaker 1: little bit harder than a hard ARE. Yeah, it's her
Speaker 1: beat diary is ships. Yeah, No, she's actually very I
Speaker 1: hate to see what she thinks is like like n
Speaker 1: C seven. Yeah, it's just people being like what she
Speaker 1: thinks is R right? Yeah, um anyway, yeah, I know right,
Speaker 1: like this is not that. And he was able to
Speaker 1: just come out and be like, yeah I did some
Speaker 1: gross out stuff. I mean, look I get that. I've
Speaker 1: you know, people doing try and comedy on the internet.
Speaker 1: You to make some experiment with some dumb ship and
Speaker 1: then you're like, Okay, that's not it. But like I'm
Speaker 1: for you as parents when you see a thing we're like,
Speaker 1: oh my kid likes this entertainer, where do you put
Speaker 1: bad Harlem shake shitting video? In terms of like you
Speaker 1: can't watch this like, how low is that? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like racism as a person or violent
Speaker 1: abut you know, like of just transgressions that are revealed
Speaker 1: about someone, You're like, oh, actually, this, this actually negates
Speaker 1: all the work they've done. I have two boys. They
Speaker 1: have probably described what what happened in that video before,
Speaker 1: just because poop jokes are like the funniest thing in
Speaker 1: the world to them, and just like saying poop on
Speaker 1: somebody who's pooping would probably be a thing that they
Speaker 1: would describe. So there's definitely like when I first saw Oblipia,
Speaker 1: I was like, this is weird because he's like a
Speaker 1: middle aged dude who's dressed like a I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's like a guy who's like, do you want government
Speaker 1: cash for like the question? He looks Nephew, yes, yes
Speaker 1: he does. That's exactly right. Uh, alright, we we've completely
Speaker 1: derailed this show. This is absolutely not what people tune
Speaker 1: in to hear about. All right, that's gonna do it
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