Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one sixty seven,
Speaker 1: Episode two of The Daily Nice, the production of My
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a
Speaker 1: deam dive into America's share consciousness. It's Tuesday, January one,
Speaker 1: like seven eight days until January. Uh, my name is
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, a k one more time. Trump's trying to
Speaker 1: coo to day. Oh yeah, oh no, don't call for violence.
Speaker 1: Uh that's courtesy of Soltas. Hannah and I am thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined as always by my co host, Mr
Speaker 1: Miles Gray. Hey, who me is? Perma band man? Twitter?
Speaker 1: Kick me a'll fam crying all night? Forty fives? Got
Speaker 1: no backup plan? Call me barry Man always John barry Man. Wait,
Speaker 1: they got Paula Damn. Rudy's got burners man? My no, no, no,
Speaker 1: thank you to Christie. I'm a Gucci man at Wapple
Speaker 1: House for that rubber band main so inspired. Ak yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean wow now now now now actions are taken,
Speaker 1: so we take it. I'll take it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah Trump Trump got banned at right after we recorded
Speaker 1: our last episode of last week, so um yeah, big Hey,
Speaker 1: who's that? Who's that ghost coming? In. Who's that from
Speaker 1: the from the Wings, the Decent, the Ghost of American Decency.
Speaker 1: She is the hilarious and talented Caitlin Durante. What's up?
Speaker 1: I've got a new anagram to share. This comes from
Speaker 1: a bectel cast Hatreon subscriber, so I don't have their
Speaker 1: Twitter handle. So if this is you at yourself, be known, um.
Speaker 1: But this is from Chris. That's the only way I
Speaker 1: know how to identify them. But the antagram is tinier
Speaker 1: anal duct. Okay, tinier an d tinier an duck. How
Speaker 1: do you have and no, it's tinier. Yeah, you can't
Speaker 1: even see it. Just put it to you if you
Speaker 1: have a pen, just put a dot on your paper.
Speaker 1: There it is. Yes. Caitlin is traditionally brings anagrams for
Speaker 1: her A K s for a new listeners. We have
Speaker 1: heard Latin dancer U T I. We have heard nine
Speaker 1: tip dracula uh. And we got a new entrance into
Speaker 1: the Caitlin Durante anagram Hall of Fame. Tinier anal duct
Speaker 1: anal duct. You're welcome. Yes, I'm just I'm always just
Speaker 1: in awe. It's always liked that had to have been
Speaker 1: every single word. Now and now we're like getting even
Speaker 1: more obscure and specific. You just be Latin answer U
Speaker 1: T I. I thought those are the best, and now
Speaker 1: it's tinier. Yeah, okay, yeah, looking forward to the next
Speaker 1: one than um. Yeah, thank you guys, thank you Chris
Speaker 1: and all the artists, all the Anagram artists. It's truly
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a science and it's an art. Yeah. Yeah, perfect,
Speaker 1: like hacking. Exactly, like hacking. You have to hack the
Speaker 1: letters of my name too. It's really, it is exactly.
Speaker 1: It's like sample based hip hop, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I know that that's familiar, isn't that
Speaker 1: Caitlin Gerante nos Dracula. Yeah, the remix's exactly. Uh. Leonardo
Speaker 1: da Vinci famously big into Anagram's. Uh if you read
Speaker 1: the da Vinci code he put he put his uh
Speaker 1: he put his codes for that would span across time
Speaker 1: and be so diff nobody could figure them out. He
Speaker 1: put them in as word jumbles. Uh. So also the
Speaker 1: da Vinci code written by Leonardo da Vinci. Yes, of course,
Speaker 1: of course. Uh. We're gonna get to know you a
Speaker 1: little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna just
Speaker 1: check in with the news cycle. It seems like just
Speaker 1: generally we're trending towards uh forgiving, forgetting. Is this impeachment
Speaker 1: thing really gonna work out? And then there's some fearmongering
Speaker 1: stuff happening about how they're planning more attacks. So we'll
Speaker 1: check in with all of that. You mean fearmongering to
Speaker 1: dissuade from impeachment, Yeah, to just waite from impeachment, that
Speaker 1: that the there are attacks planned if Trump is removed
Speaker 1: from office before. Yeah, I believe that. I don't think
Speaker 1: that we like, has that ever been the policy of
Speaker 1: any country, let alone fucking America to to be like,
Speaker 1: well they're gonna do terrorism if weed, uh don't do
Speaker 1: what is going to keep the most people safe. So
Speaker 1: let's just sit back and let it ride. So we'll
Speaker 1: talk about that and how the Republicans are asking for healing,
Speaker 1: how we we got impeaching this creep two point oh,
Speaker 1: so maybe we'll hear a little bit of that I'm
Speaker 1: talking about this creep. We'll check in ask the question
Speaker 1: is this a new era of social media? Uh? And
Speaker 1: we will also check in with a Saxon Musk, which
Speaker 1: is the name of one of Elon Musk's Forgotten Children.
Speaker 1: Uh so I just have a tweet from him that
Speaker 1: I want to get you guys, thoughts on all of
Speaker 1: that plenty more, But first, Caitlin, we like to ask
Speaker 1: our guests, what is something from your search history that's
Speaker 1: revealing about who you are? I just googled where and
Speaker 1: when is Paddington three? I need to know. I found
Speaker 1: no new in a nation. I really needed that one,
Speaker 1: really needed that one. Uh there's another even announced? I mean,
Speaker 1: is it in development? Do we know there's a deal.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's in development still. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it's gone to pre production. There's about the
Speaker 1: only thing I know is that Paul King, the director
Speaker 1: of the first two movies, is not returning, or at
Speaker 1: least he wasn't, which is like, I know, it's like,
Speaker 1: oh we need Paul King there. Um. We don't really
Speaker 1: know anything about release dates, what who's who's the villain?
Speaker 1: We know nothing. The only way this could possibly get
Speaker 1: worse is if the Democrats divide the country and go
Speaker 1: forward with impeachment. Then that day it's truly lost. I
Speaker 1: would say, oh my god, I'm sorry everyone. Have there
Speaker 1: been examples where a director directed the first two, and
Speaker 1: then the third one was actually like, okay, it was
Speaker 1: on par with the with the you know, with the
Speaker 1: new director you mean for the third Yeah, with a
Speaker 1: new director for the third movie. I know there are
Speaker 1: some people who ride for Jurassic Park three, but it's
Speaker 1: seen as like not a good one. I think it's
Speaker 1: like film merits who thrive on alternate takes the wrong hill.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, um, but you know Home Alone, we saw
Speaker 1: that that one fall off. Although I don't even know
Speaker 1: if Home Alone two was directed by Chris Columbus, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you Home Alone three was wild as ship. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they recast everything. Do you know if Paddington
Speaker 1: is going to be played by the same Paddington, he
Speaker 1: damn well better I would imagine, so I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: Ben Wishaw is never not going to be Paddington. Now good?
Speaker 1: I know, all right? What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 1: That's um quitting specifically specifically quitting comedy. I think more
Speaker 1: people should quit comedy who are doing comedy. I think
Speaker 1: I should quit comedy. I think we should all just normalize.
Speaker 1: Quitting is like a It's a good thing. Every time
Speaker 1: I've ever quit anything, I felt really great after quitting it.
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we generally associate uh, negative emotions
Speaker 1: are negative, um, you know, uh connotations with quitting, and
Speaker 1: I think it's generally a pretty good thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's all how we look at stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: like if you're quitting something, or you're treating your life
Speaker 1: as a collection of experiences that you sift through and
Speaker 1: some you like and serve you, Others you don't or
Speaker 1: aren't what you thought they'd be, and then you you
Speaker 1: put that aside and you allow yourself to evolve more.
Speaker 1: I think that's like the hard thing too, is like
Speaker 1: creating a language within your mind to make it like
Speaker 1: because the word quitting feels like you're throwing your hands up.
Speaker 1: You're like, I don't have what it yeah, versus like, oh,
Speaker 1: this isn't actually the ideal way I thought my life
Speaker 1: was going through this narrow way I was defining it.
Speaker 1: So now I maybe can let that go in service
Speaker 1: of something that is more appealing to me or more
Speaker 1: fitting or gives me the better feeling as I engage
Speaker 1: with it, because damn, there are times when I remember
Speaker 1: I was like trying to do whatever projects and just
Speaker 1: being like it has to be this and causing myself
Speaker 1: so much distress because I wasn't allowing myself the flexibility
Speaker 1: or elasticity to be like you don't just I didn't
Speaker 1: have to define myself as only being successful in this
Speaker 1: very narrow way versus like what the feeling is I'm
Speaker 1: chasing like am I fulfilled? Versus like am I on SNL? Right?
Speaker 1: And I'm neither of those podcast stuff? Cool though, I
Speaker 1: mean I think across I think across lots of different professions,
Speaker 1: people are kind of going to be facing the same
Speaker 1: thing because of how the economy is. Ship the bed
Speaker 1: and people who work in restaurants or you know, whatever
Speaker 1: it is, people who have their own shops I think
Speaker 1: are going to be trying to figure out how to
Speaker 1: you know, pivot is the shitty buzzword way of saying it.
Speaker 1: Why are you talking comedy though specifically I don't know.
Speaker 1: I well, I mean just the grind of like doing
Speaker 1: stand up and like that. I mean now that that's
Speaker 1: obsolete or you know, put on hiatus and definitely, um,
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about like if if ever we resume
Speaker 1: like a more sense of normals, like kind of go
Speaker 1: back to the way we were of like being allowed
Speaker 1: to go outdoors and be around people and like go
Speaker 1: to venues and have shows and stuff like that. I'm thinking, like,
Speaker 1: do I even want to go back to that? Do
Speaker 1: I even look? Do I want to keep going like doing? So?
Speaker 1: Why don't know? I'm kind of I'm kind of torn,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, maybe I should just quit. Was I
Speaker 1: even getting that much enjoyment out of it before all this?
Speaker 1: So I've got some things to think about. Got to
Speaker 1: honor yourself though. Number one. I think that's the one
Speaker 1: thing that I've learned overall through you know this and everything,
Speaker 1: is just how much more like, how much more important
Speaker 1: it is to really be focused on your well being
Speaker 1: or sense of like happiness versus like traditionally used to
Speaker 1: be like well if I do this, where I get
Speaker 1: this or I work there, then I can be happy
Speaker 1: and thinking that happiness is like this transactional sequence where
Speaker 1: you can very much engage in happiness, but you have
Speaker 1: to kind of find it and really embrace it. So
Speaker 1: that's what the movie Soul is all about. What got
Speaker 1: me on this train of thinking, yeah, he's chasing it,
Speaker 1: chasing it, Oh boy, is it good? I haven't seen
Speaker 1: so yet I've been trying to get my kids to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I rather enjoyed it. It's good. I was hoping
Speaker 1: it would be black cocoa, but it wasn't, so I
Speaker 1: was like, all right, it's more like it has like
Speaker 1: a very broad human message because you know, just to
Speaker 1: see the characters, I'm like, oh these are African. Okay,
Speaker 1: look was black people done? It pics like a black
Speaker 1: Pixar movie, but it it's sort of transcended it. Not
Speaker 1: that it needed to myopically be this sort of like
Speaker 1: you know, portrait of blackness in America through Pixar filters
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but it ended up being just
Speaker 1: like very like I was like, is this for kids?
Speaker 1: Because I mean I'm over here like second guessing my
Speaker 1: ship watching this. I'm like, yo, this is my kid up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's all these people in their like thirties and forties
Speaker 1: and the older who were like damn, like so really
Speaker 1: spoke to me and in a way that like is
Speaker 1: not really relatable for children. I mean, I guess it's
Speaker 1: like kids who sees it will like take that message
Speaker 1: into their future and like to their like in the
Speaker 1: hobbies and right. But yeah, it's like not the themes
Speaker 1: that the movie explores, like aren't Super four children. It's
Speaker 1: still good, but yeah, like that never that never stopped
Speaker 1: them from like, like we so I put on the
Speaker 1: part of Disney plus that has the Pixar movies trying
Speaker 1: to be like, oh look, this one looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: And they wanted to watch Wally again. There at that
Speaker 1: point where they like, like to watch things a thousand
Speaker 1: times and Wally is still such a great movie. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it does not like it's some dark ship like to
Speaker 1: wrap your mind around. They're like, wait, so why are
Speaker 1: why do they look like that? Now? Why is everybody
Speaker 1: so lazy? Um? Because the right away consumer culture you're like,
Speaker 1: oh um, yeah, but I'm I'm gonna get to Soul
Speaker 1: in the next week hopefully. Yeah, I watched it. I remember,
Speaker 1: like that was the best part of that break when
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, ship, like things that I have never
Speaker 1: seen before are now watchable online. Uh, and I like
Speaker 1: I was never quicker to watch something. I think that's
Speaker 1: like the a interesting part of these films being released
Speaker 1: on digital. It's like it's really it's eliminated all the
Speaker 1: barriers or obstacles for me A lazy like fucking sedentary
Speaker 1: rock person would like have like not going to a movie.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, just press buttons and I'm
Speaker 1: watching The New Grade. I love it. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: just picturing one of those rock people from The Never
Speaker 1: Ending Story. Yes, yes, that should freaked me out. Another
Speaker 1: movie I watched when I was in my thousand movie phase.
Speaker 1: It was Labyrinth, and uh, never any sort of Labyrinth.
Speaker 1: I fucked with Heavy because my mom was like vibe
Speaker 1: with David Bowie. So she's like, yeah, you could watch
Speaker 1: Labyrinth watching labynth wait, what is your thousand movie phase?
Speaker 1: Like you were saying, like, when you're a kid and
Speaker 1: you start watching watching, I only know how to watch.
Speaker 1: Get satisfaction from watching this same piece of content over
Speaker 1: and over and over again. And even when people go
Speaker 1: I remember vividly even as a kid, when I, like
Speaker 1: anybody older cousin, parent, uncle would be like, you know,
Speaker 1: if you like this, you'd really dig that. I was like,
Speaker 1: fuck you, thanks, what do you mean? It's like is
Speaker 1: it this? No? Then no, I'm not what the are
Speaker 1: you talking about? That? It's hard, hard hard past. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my like I have some that are I think universally
Speaker 1: like among just different generations like Jaws and Karate Kid.
Speaker 1: But then teen Wolf watched so many times. Uh, and
Speaker 1: that is just imprinted on on me as like this
Speaker 1: is what you should expect from a movie. Um, you've
Speaker 1: talked before on your Amazing Film podcast, the Bechdel Cast.
Speaker 1: You've talked before about how Titanic is one of those
Speaker 1: movies for you. Oh. Yes, there was an entire summer
Speaker 1: where I watched it every single day twice. I spent
Speaker 1: seven hours a day watching like a full time job.
Speaker 1: I'm twice a day, like for breakfast, Like was there
Speaker 1: a seven hour block or you kind of you punctuated
Speaker 1: your day throughout the day you needed to hit it twice.
Speaker 1: No, no no, no, it was a full no breaks, no
Speaker 1: pe breaks even it was like going into work. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: I get up in the morning. It was back when
Speaker 1: there was on the two VHS tapes, so we'd watched
Speaker 1: the first tape the second one, then have to rewind
Speaker 1: them both and then it just immediately start over after
Speaker 1: rewinding them. You didn't have like the VHS rewinder machine
Speaker 1: on deck. We weren't that rich. We didn't have a
Speaker 1: separate machine for rewinding. Oh man, well, let me tell
Speaker 1: you that that just allowed for just a few more
Speaker 1: viewings of ace vent or a Pet Detective on the right.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated, Caitlin, I think
Speaker 1: making your bed is overrated. Never do it. I think
Speaker 1: it's a waste of time. I think it's a racket,
Speaker 1: and I don't get it. Big bed big What is
Speaker 1: a big military that's a pushing pushing us to make
Speaker 1: our beds. Yeah, exactly, it's there are some people I
Speaker 1: know who like ride really hard for making your bed, Like,
Speaker 1: who are just there's just like it really helps me
Speaker 1: mentally if I make my bed eats their own. I
Speaker 1: don't because I get some people like I understand looking
Speaker 1: at him, like you don't want to get into a
Speaker 1: messy bed, like I I can. I can understand that.
Speaker 1: I don't feel that at all, because I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't give a this only me sleeping in this motherfucker's
Speaker 1: like some secret family has been sleeping into bed all
Speaker 1: day And I'm like, oh, I don't know that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I get the process because I remember, like in
Speaker 1: high school, like one of my first high school girlfriends,
Speaker 1: she was a fucking militant bed maker, and like we
Speaker 1: weren't having sex or nothing like that. You know. It's
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm tutoring and then we make out in
Speaker 1: your room type shit, and I remember like we'll be
Speaker 1: on the bed and she was like, fucking straighten everything up.
Speaker 1: I'm like an inspection come out with No, I just
Speaker 1: really like it. Meat. She's like, there's no better feeling
Speaker 1: than when you get into bed and you pull the
Speaker 1: sheets and you can feel this sheet. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: You're just like like yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: good for you. Like I get into it. When I
Speaker 1: get into the hotel, I yanked the bottom part of
Speaker 1: the fucking ship out before I even get in the
Speaker 1: motherfucker because I hate that tuck at the end. Hate. Yes, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: thank you. I am in a My significant other is
Speaker 1: very messy sheet wise, and also will sometimes snack in bed,
Speaker 1: and it is a point of contention between Wow, what
Speaker 1: do you how do you like? Like I will I
Speaker 1: I'm also I'm not like a morning bed maker, but
Speaker 1: I will make the bed before we get in the
Speaker 1: bed at night, just to like have it so that
Speaker 1: there is like one sheet and not just like a
Speaker 1: crumple like over in one corner or something right right right? Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's there's a little goldfish crackers. Cracker crumbs
Speaker 1: are my and then you know my kids will then
Speaker 1: feed off that. Yeah, it's it's like baits, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: That is fucked up though, Like I know that feeling
Speaker 1: you got dirt in your bed and you feel that
Speaker 1: ship on your skinal like what the fun is hitting here?
Speaker 1: Like no, why are my shins being disturbed by goldfish
Speaker 1: crackers just crumbs? Uh? All right, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and then we'll talk about what's happening and we're back.
Speaker 1: Let's just check in with a new cycle. It's moving fast.
Speaker 1: This is our first recording in a couple of days. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know the so I think Pence has officially
Speaker 1: he said he's not gonna dent. It's not gonna happen. Um,
Speaker 1: he said definitely not now he said not, and then
Speaker 1: he said he was still open to it over the weekend.
Speaker 1: But it just seems like more and more people are
Speaker 1: assuming it's not gonna happen. Uh, even though you know,
Speaker 1: those people tried to apparently seemed like they had the
Speaker 1: intent of possibly doing him harm up end, including to
Speaker 1: killing him. The first coordinated chance I witnesses the first
Speaker 1: coordinated chan after they broke through the glass was hang
Speaker 1: Mike Pence. Uh. And they had a gallows set up
Speaker 1: out in front of the Capital and zip ties Um.
Speaker 1: We actually talked on a episode towards the end of
Speaker 1: last week about the security guard. His last name is Goodman. Oh,
Speaker 1: the Capitol Police officer, Yeah, the Capital Police officer who
Speaker 1: was It seemed like he was just full on in
Speaker 1: retreat mode because there's this huge mob and apparently that
Speaker 1: was part of a strategy to lead them away so
Speaker 1: that they didn't hang Mike Pence or anybody else. And
Speaker 1: it worked because you see at the end of that
Speaker 1: video they this angry mob walks into a open sort
Speaker 1: of atrium where there's a bunch of other cops. Um.
Speaker 1: But it's wild because they say the timing of that was,
Speaker 1: like the recording of that moment was maybe around two fourteen,
Speaker 1: is what they think. When he basically gets up to
Speaker 1: the staircase and looks down the hall where the entrance
Speaker 1: to the Senate Chamber is and realized there's no one
Speaker 1: there to guard it. So yeah, like that move was
Speaker 1: just like shoving the dude in the Q shirt and
Speaker 1: then making and luring them the other way is like
Speaker 1: it's wild the old everything about that whole ship is
Speaker 1: just so fucked up, especially now when you see more
Speaker 1: and more the fuck or the very high probability of
Speaker 1: fuccory that was going on within actual enforcement. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: just like it's like every day it just gets way
Speaker 1: more less of a thing you can laugh about, you know.
Speaker 1: It's it's one thing when I was like, whoa, look
Speaker 1: at the Viking dude, ha ha ha he has horns on,
Speaker 1: and then you like you just start seeing like the
Speaker 1: timeline of events and how coordinated things were, and even
Speaker 1: how things weren't coordinated and if they were, could have
Speaker 1: been much more severe. Um. But yeah, but still I
Speaker 1: think there's definitely a group of people I definitely see
Speaker 1: that on the Internet who still think this is just
Speaker 1: some ship to make jokes about. Like, and I get
Speaker 1: that through humor we can make ourselves slightly more comfortable
Speaker 1: in dealing with something so fucked up. I totally get that,
Speaker 1: But like, there are some takes I see that are
Speaker 1: completely dismissing of it as like anything to actually be
Speaker 1: serious about, um and truly just being like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: can you believe these yokels. There's a CNN article about
Speaker 1: how there is currently unprecedented support for Trump's removal from
Speaker 1: office uh and hinges on pass passing uh the impeachment,
Speaker 1: and but then the article like talks most of it
Speaker 1: is spent talking about how, you know, passing the impeachment
Speaker 1: will fail because it won't happen in time and people
Speaker 1: will want to put this whole thing behind them, and
Speaker 1: the Republican populace is still opposed, and it's just it's
Speaker 1: really kind of going back to that both sides where
Speaker 1: one side is the Republican Party, even though that is
Speaker 1: now like a white supremacist hate group, Like they're still
Speaker 1: both sides in it. Like yeah, but on the other hand,
Speaker 1: this these people are on board with it. Um. And
Speaker 1: then there's an article that went up yesterday morning on
Speaker 1: ABC about how, uh, the FBI is saying that there
Speaker 1: is a huge armed uprising that will happen if Trump
Speaker 1: is removed from office. And it's not like so we're
Speaker 1: on it and we're taking these motherfucker's down. That's like
Speaker 1: so like the way it's written again, it's just because
Speaker 1: other outlets who covered that same FBI communicate or just
Speaker 1: sort of like, yeah, this is bad, you see, Um,
Speaker 1: it's not going to stop, because they're already saying, you know,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were saying the reason that
Speaker 1: the Trump twitter was taken down was that tweet when
Speaker 1: he said I won't be at the inauguration, basically giving
Speaker 1: it a green light for violence. Um. And then a
Speaker 1: lot of other people who are much more you know,
Speaker 1: uh up on like ops Sack and how social media
Speaker 1: companies work and how they can actually foresee certain things,
Speaker 1: are like they probably saw, really really saw how much
Speaker 1: activity was happening on their platforms to organize another violent act,
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh shit, okay, like we already let
Speaker 1: that one happenbly, So yeah, it's a it's it's really
Speaker 1: hard to watch too because everybody else. There's certain people
Speaker 1: who are like this is such a clear and present
Speaker 1: danger uh and has been for years decades where but
Speaker 1: even more specifically, let's give them the benefit of the
Speaker 1: down and be like, Okay, you didn't you didn't learn
Speaker 1: about white supremacy till this summer. Okay, if you found
Speaker 1: out this summer and you really didn't do much about it,
Speaker 1: and you still let this guy say all this other
Speaker 1: ship and let him let all this other ship slide,
Speaker 1: and this is where we are. But um, it's it's truly,
Speaker 1: it's like you want the all leadership to be in
Speaker 1: the same place, uh, like on you know, both sides
Speaker 1: of the aisle. But yeah, you're seeing how Republicans are like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna try and like delay you guys
Speaker 1: realizing how much of a cancerous, malignant growth we are
Speaker 1: until it's too late. M hm. The I mean, most
Speaker 1: of the mainstream media coverage of the response to this
Speaker 1: is around Trump's Twitter getting and definitely suspended or you know,
Speaker 1: parlor getting kicked off of all the different platforms where
Speaker 1: people were able to use it. Um. And I feel
Speaker 1: like it's not like that that stuff is should be
Speaker 1: par for the course. But like there there's a story
Speaker 1: about how Fox News is moving it's only news show
Speaker 1: from the seven PM block, uh to the daytime to
Speaker 1: make the evening programming just pure trash. Um, Like they
Speaker 1: they're going to have a no holds barred all around
Speaker 1: like round table of opinion contributors at seven pm instead
Speaker 1: of a news show. Um. And the opinion contributors have
Speaker 1: since the attack on the Capitol have been talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, how it was led by uh Antifa and
Speaker 1: spreading like widely debunked rumors like they're the fact that
Speaker 1: they're still pushing on the Fox News side is I
Speaker 1: think what should be seen as most remarkable by the
Speaker 1: mainstream media, Facebook and Fox, Like that's still a huge
Speaker 1: component to all of this. That's still their diet. Sure
Speaker 1: you took Trump's Twitter away and parlor, but they still
Speaker 1: got Fox, they still got Facebook, And it's from all
Speaker 1: the people that are like monitoring things. Yes, there's fracturing
Speaker 1: happening on the right, especially in the like the alt right,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, okay, well Trump screw us? Is
Speaker 1: he a plant? Is this que is it not? Do
Speaker 1: we go more violent? Do we retreat? And there is
Speaker 1: all this kind of just chaos happening at the moment.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you look at Fox, Fox and Friends
Speaker 1: this morning, Janine Pierro, you know, she compared the d
Speaker 1: platform ing like of on like on platform, parlor and
Speaker 1: ship like that. She said it was quote akin to
Speaker 1: Christal knocked. Yeah, the night of broken glass. Um wow,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that's what's that's but that's
Speaker 1: what I don't know. Half of me is like do
Speaker 1: people know? Dude? Half of these people know what Crystal
Speaker 1: knocked is, probably because it's like of calendar, they date,
Speaker 1: they celebrate, because they're fucking despicable people. But it's it's
Speaker 1: just weird of all this, you know, using these historical
Speaker 1: examples to try and whip people up, who if for
Speaker 1: a moment began to actually like look at what's going on,
Speaker 1: uh wou'd see just how absurd it is. But this,
Speaker 1: but we're not dealing with people who are are reasonable
Speaker 1: or can be reasoned with, Like that much is clear.
Speaker 1: There's nothing you know, they the from hearing like um
Speaker 1: interviews with people that were at the capital. There were
Speaker 1: some people were just like I don't know, like I'm
Speaker 1: waiting to kind of like take orders. That's why I
Speaker 1: showed up, And other people were like oh when they
Speaker 1: went in the Capitol, I was like this is too
Speaker 1: much for me and I left. UM. But there's but
Speaker 1: every every sort of part of the spectrum is being
Speaker 1: currently represented in this party, and they're all very vocal.
Speaker 1: M yeah. I mean the Crystal Knocked thing really reminds
Speaker 1: me of, you know, some a strategy we've talked about
Speaker 1: them constantly using which is when something is true about them,
Speaker 1: they accuse the opposition of doing it. So, you know,
Speaker 1: the week that they have a attempted coup, uh for
Speaker 1: a fascist uprising, which is what Crystal Knock was like
Speaker 1: a signpost, like big moment in the Nazi uprising. Uh,
Speaker 1: they they start accusing social media for banning them of
Speaker 1: being Crystal Knock, which is uh, you know, it just
Speaker 1: takes the It turns that accusation and that characterization, which
Speaker 1: is obviously much more appropriate coming from the left about
Speaker 1: the right. Um is obviously much more appropriate in that direction,
Speaker 1: but it turns it into a no you are, which
Speaker 1: is kind of deflating, I think, right, that's why they
Speaker 1: do it. I mean it's funny too, because even in
Speaker 1: Krystal Knox, you know, uh, German authorities just watched and
Speaker 1: sat idly by as it happened, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and like they're just there's so many things you can
Speaker 1: map onto what's happening currently in the United States and
Speaker 1: compared to fucking nearly just like not inexhaustible, but plenty
Speaker 1: of modern examples of how not addressing this or taking
Speaker 1: these sort of things seriously over time just becomes a
Speaker 1: completely runaway force that becomes very hard to deal with
Speaker 1: and at times will completely overtake a nation. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like there are people like that's the Fox
Speaker 1: News side is sit back, be like, well, these are
Speaker 1: people or Rush Limbaugh, these are people who uh they're
Speaker 1: saying like we're just you know, sick and tired of
Speaker 1: it and just trying to normalize that ship. And then
Speaker 1: you do have the side of it that is outraged
Speaker 1: and are trying to turn this into like a bright
Speaker 1: line that they crossed. But it's there is certainly that
Speaker 1: contingent that just wants to let this thing slide, like
Speaker 1: who were like, yeah, no, you should be walking that
Speaker 1: old lady out holding her hand and letting everybody leave
Speaker 1: the capital after they stormed it like that is yeah,
Speaker 1: there there is a huge fascism problem in America now
Speaker 1: that there are a lot of people who are openly
Speaker 1: for it, who have been openly for it. And if
Speaker 1: we're not aware of that after this and after you know,
Speaker 1: Fox News is response to this, uh, then we like
Speaker 1: you have to be actively ignoring it to to not
Speaker 1: be aware of that, and you can basically start a
Speaker 1: countdown timer to when these people find a way to
Speaker 1: come back into powerfully and not funk it up a
Speaker 1: second time. Right. Um yeah, all all experts and historic
Speaker 1: fascism are like, this is the first step. This is
Speaker 1: not the final step, or at least traditionally in history,
Speaker 1: it hasn't been the final step. This is the failed
Speaker 1: coup that proceeds the more well put together, more coherently
Speaker 1: planned out coup, which then proceeds the you know, actual
Speaker 1: taking of power. Um. Yeah, but just you know that
Speaker 1: some journalists have done a deep dive into who was
Speaker 1: actually there. Um, they haven't been able to find a
Speaker 1: single left left wing agitator, which I think, you know,
Speaker 1: the right was certainly looking very hard for um, but
Speaker 1: it's you know, there there's a Republican political donor uh
Speaker 1: and CEO of Coegentsia, some shitty named Chicago based data
Speaker 1: analytics firm, uh Cogensia. I don't know, but he was
Speaker 1: arrested with a group of a half dozen Trump supporters
Speaker 1: who clashed with officers Wednesday inside the Capital. Um. He
Speaker 1: had contributed more than twenty five thousand dollars to Trump's campaign. Uh.
Speaker 1: Derek Evans, a Republican recently sworn in the delegate to
Speaker 1: the West Virginia House. Uh live streamed himself and they
Speaker 1: live streamed it. Said he said his name said Evans
Speaker 1: is in the capitol, and you're like, okay, thanks for
Speaker 1: making it easy. There's a lieutenant at Texas Sheriff announced
Speaker 1: Thursday he had reported one of his lieutenants to the
Speaker 1: FBI after she posted photos of herself on social media
Speaker 1: with a crowd. Um Seattle PD. They know at least
Speaker 1: two of their like on duty, Well they weren't on duty,
Speaker 1: but people who are from the department were there too,
Speaker 1: and all over. Yeah, I mean it's like that's all
Speaker 1: it takes, you know, like you you need buy in from, like,
Speaker 1: you know, the moneyed people in Mago world, which are
Speaker 1: a lot of these people like that that sort of
Speaker 1: hotel lobby scene that we saw right after where people
Speaker 1: just kicking back, sipping drinks, everybody looking sort of like
Speaker 1: up pretty, you know, upper middle class to upper class
Speaker 1: gen xers, boomers, who what have you that they're The
Speaker 1: analysis too is like, you know, for as much even
Speaker 1: I would and I think we would even talk about
Speaker 1: how um poor people are manipulated into sort of seduced
Speaker 1: by this sort of ideology, which is true obviously, but
Speaker 1: the there's this other thing that's really interesting is that
Speaker 1: a lot of the uh, like a lot of the
Speaker 1: contingent that was there too, are like people who are
Speaker 1: like the like wealthier people of the areas in which
Speaker 1: they live in. Um, not necessarily when you compare that
Speaker 1: to like the entire United States, but like demographically for
Speaker 1: where they are, they meet those things as well. And
Speaker 1: so there's just this it really it's a broad coalition
Speaker 1: of people, but there's a lot of money invested in
Speaker 1: it too, because when Charlie Kirk is bragging now we
Speaker 1: don't know that he said the Turning Point had paid
Speaker 1: for eight plus busses of people to be taken up there. Um,
Speaker 1: it's not just yeah, there's people who clearly have the
Speaker 1: money to be there themselves. Then there's also people who
Speaker 1: are able, like willing to enable this for those who
Speaker 1: don't have the means to be Like, I will make
Speaker 1: I will physically get you there, but I just need
Speaker 1: the chaos from you, and I will use you for
Speaker 1: my own aims. And that's what makes I think the
Speaker 1: future of this like it's such a multi level problem
Speaker 1: aside from the social media, like the dark money spending,
Speaker 1: we don't know who the fuck is actually funding all this,
Speaker 1: Like people are funding this. People funded all of this
Speaker 1: ship that went down last week. They from the people
Speaker 1: who you know, there's like there are um sort of
Speaker 1: like uh go fund me type things for like patriots
Speaker 1: who are in need of financial assistance that they will
Speaker 1: help subsidize your travel to get you to an event
Speaker 1: and things like that. So it is definitely like we
Speaker 1: have a lot of light that we have to shine
Speaker 1: across the across the board. Um. But again, these are
Speaker 1: all things that a lot of people have been saying
Speaker 1: from the beginning, like you've got to get this like
Speaker 1: weird dark money where you don't know where it comes
Speaker 1: from out of politics, because yeah, it allows things to
Speaker 1: be like I'll basically pay for thousands of people to
Speaker 1: just be there and then you do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: Then hopefully you know, match gasoline boom. Yeah. And I
Speaker 1: think I think there's a need on the part of
Speaker 1: mainstream Democrats to acknowledge that these right wing institutions that
Speaker 1: are asking for unity from the Democratic Party are actually
Speaker 1: you know, they're either have ties to fascism or are
Speaker 1: enabled actively enabling fascism, like Turning Point USA is needs
Speaker 1: to be yeah, into non existence. Yeah, there's this woman,
Speaker 1: Christinea Malaman and in the article just like listing all
Speaker 1: the people who have been identified using social media them say,
Speaker 1: shouting their names like you said as they entered the capital. Um.
Speaker 1: But she is like a higher up in Turning Point USA,
Speaker 1: Like she's an ambassador for them. Uh, it's actually interesting.
Speaker 1: She's like the Forrest Gump of bullshit Trump activity is.
Speaker 1: She was the organizer of that boat parade in Oregon
Speaker 1: where all those boats got She's like one of the
Speaker 1: in the leadership for like the Young Republicans. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um.
Speaker 1: But she also has pictures with Donald Trump Jr. And
Speaker 1: Roger Stone and it's you know, and there's a business
Speaker 1: owner from Utica, New York. Like it's it's all sorts
Speaker 1: of people who have power in their communities. Like you
Speaker 1: were saying, well, it's like these are people who are
Speaker 1: wealthy people in their communities who are and they could
Speaker 1: take it. And again they're taking advantage of people in
Speaker 1: a lower socio economic class than them by being like,
Speaker 1: oh I can get these people turned up because they
Speaker 1: look up to me and I look up to him
Speaker 1: and they look like it's like this just you know,
Speaker 1: the snake eats its own tail. Um, but the unity
Speaker 1: cheers are just so fucking Anybody who for a second
Speaker 1: entertains these things, I mean, please enlist to be on
Speaker 1: the front lines to fight these people in a few years.
Speaker 1: Like if you really think that you can just be like,
Speaker 1: oh hey, Like it's like a I don't even know,
Speaker 1: we I don't know. I'm running out of examples of
Speaker 1: what this bullshit is like. But you know, there's Les Eldon,
Speaker 1: who is a representative from New York and this is
Speaker 1: like the kind of takes we're seeing across conservative media
Speaker 1: and even like weird centrist dem apologist media. Uh, Wednesday's
Speaker 1: violence was terrible, but some people need to take a
Speaker 1: deep breath, breadth breath, like the breath anyway and look
Speaker 1: in the mirror. Those who committed acts of violence in
Speaker 1: the capital must be held accountable. But THEEMS and media
Speaker 1: eager to use Wednesday to settle political scores would only
Speaker 1: be dividing our country more. You divided the country, you
Speaker 1: are dividing the country. It's only gonna divide more Republicans.
Speaker 1: And there's a thing. I saw this like take on
Speaker 1: Twitter all the time, that sort of Um, you don't
Speaker 1: heal with insurrectionists, you deal with insurrectionists. That's that's what
Speaker 1: has to have you. You have to deal with these people,
Speaker 1: because all they're saying it's like this, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like a guy has a fucking
Speaker 1: gun and he's walking close to you, but he's smiling.
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, I don't know, he has
Speaker 1: a fucking gun. What are you talking about. It's like nobody,
Speaker 1: but he looks nice and he was he was sorry
Speaker 1: about the last time he shot everybody and wasn't smiling
Speaker 1: that time. And he has Nancy a little friendship bracelets
Speaker 1: he wants to give us. Oh those are zip ties.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah no. And that's what people will happen, Like
Speaker 1: they're so used to not seeing each other as a threat,
Speaker 1: especially like or seeing this white supremacy like manifest into
Speaker 1: this mob or whatever and be like, oh, that's that's
Speaker 1: a problem. Because these people actually came here to stop
Speaker 1: anything from moving forward past Donald Trump, any kind of
Speaker 1: progress past that is what they were saying, Oh, this
Speaker 1: is our red line, Like the most progress will tolerate.
Speaker 1: Is Donald Trump anything passed that, well, then it all
Speaker 1: bets are off because that's a threat to whatever a
Speaker 1: diet I'm ingesting. But it probably has to do with
Speaker 1: American exceptionalism and white exceptionals. Just to continue with these examples, Uh,
Speaker 1: the Minority leader McCarthy also saying the same thing. Our
Speaker 1: country is not just divided, we are deeply hurt. The
Speaker 1: task ahead for the next Congress and incoming Biden administration
Speaker 1: couldn't be more momentous. First of all, Okay, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: now it's on them, but to deliver a better America
Speaker 1: for all partisans of all stripes. Uh, first, must unite
Speaker 1: as Americans and show our country that a peaceful transfer
Speaker 1: of power has occurred. Impeaching the president with just twelve
Speaker 1: days left in his term only divide our country more.
Speaker 1: What do you mean more? You can't divide it more
Speaker 1: than people saying we're here to fucking chop off one
Speaker 1: branch of the government through violence or overturn an election.
Speaker 1: It's like triangulation. But uh, Clinton kind of made an
Speaker 1: art form of this thing where he would take what's
Speaker 1: on the right, take what's on the left, triangulate in
Speaker 1: the middle and like that would be the most popular
Speaker 1: position that he could take on anything, and that ended
Speaker 1: up with him basically governing as a Republican UM. But
Speaker 1: that's sort of a cheap hoode for the old form
Speaker 1: of how the government operated, when both the Democrats and
Speaker 1: Republicans were kind of working within the system, even though
Speaker 1: they were like had fucked up values, like they at
Speaker 1: least agreed on what the rules were UM. And now
Speaker 1: that is no longer the case. But we have a
Speaker 1: leader coming into power who you know, he the first
Speaker 1: time you heard unity coming out of someone's mouth after
Speaker 1: the events of Wednesday the sixth, were you know, Biden
Speaker 1: saying like, we need to come together. And it's just
Speaker 1: I feel like he's uniquely like a sitting duck to
Speaker 1: be targeted with this sort of unity bullshit. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would be shocked if he put any muscle, uh, any
Speaker 1: political capital behind the impeachment and removal of Trump or
Speaker 1: the holding accountable the people who stormed the capital. I
Speaker 1: mean know that it'll be interesting to see because he's
Speaker 1: he's he's has such a romantic idea of making out
Speaker 1: with these Nazis, like they're gonna be like, oh, don't worry.
Speaker 1: Once I kiss them, they're gonna snap out of it
Speaker 1: and everything will be okay right now, Like anybody who
Speaker 1: is saying and because you know they're really doing the
Speaker 1: right is doing the most to throw this like distraction
Speaker 1: flash bang down of like self victimhood and censorship to
Speaker 1: completely take the conversation away from the Republican Party just
Speaker 1: lead an insurrection and five people are dead because of it.
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about that. I don't care about the
Speaker 1: other stuff because if he is insurrection good or bad,
Speaker 1: you know, like can we and then if that's bad,
Speaker 1: then let's really keep going further in there to actually
Speaker 1: keep this thing focused, because all that does is because
Speaker 1: too many people are stupid and just watch TV and
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I don't know, they're not I guess
Speaker 1: on TV they're not as mad that they almost tried
Speaker 1: to kill every like a bunch of people are calling risk.
Speaker 1: I guess we can move on based on like the
Speaker 1: cues I'm getting on TV. It's bad, but you know,
Speaker 1: I will say this with the censorship thing, you know, Twitter,
Speaker 1: permanent band and like all and he tried to flop
Speaker 1: from like burner account to burner account. There was like
Speaker 1: whackle mole. They were just banning people left and right.
Speaker 1: Snapchat took him down. I think there's like a quick
Speaker 1: lock whatever that is, but it's gonna be He doesn't
Speaker 1: really use Snapchat anyway. Facebook and Instagram have a short
Speaker 1: to medium band and we don't know what indefinite means,
Speaker 1: but that's what they said. Shopify and PayPal have pieced out,
Speaker 1: but Parlor is the one that is really the one
Speaker 1: that people are using to focus on because Parlor will
Speaker 1: happen to completely skull fucked, as I would say. They've
Speaker 1: been taken off of the Apple Store, the Google play Store,
Speaker 1: Amazon isn't hosting the actual servers anymore, and they don't
Speaker 1: have any way to make transactions. The CEO went on
Speaker 1: Fox and said, uh, like Amazon, Apple and Google were
Speaker 1: attempting to quote actually destroy the entire your company. And
Speaker 1: he also added that he had been quote ditched by
Speaker 1: their lawyers. Um, and you hate to see it. And
Speaker 1: you also hate to see that A ton of hackers,
Speaker 1: whether they scraped and hacked all this information off of
Speaker 1: there to the point where nine point nine percent of
Speaker 1: its content has been saved with like raw geo targeting,
Speaker 1: like geo location data affixed to every piece of content
Speaker 1: from there. So whether that is actually used in a
Speaker 1: meaningful way, I don't know, but it'll be hard to
Speaker 1: feign ignorance and be like, well, we just don't know
Speaker 1: who these people are, because there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: outside of law enforcement, especially like people have been doing
Speaker 1: a lot of anti fascist work and reporting to be like, no,
Speaker 1: we need to do that, we need to capture this,
Speaker 1: gotta figure out. Let's save it all. People, if you
Speaker 1: find live streams, we need to save it all because
Speaker 1: who knows what law enforcement's gonna say when they go, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Facebook said they deleted it, so
Speaker 1: I don't know what we can do, And then you
Speaker 1: go high, there's all this ship, please look at it. Um.
Speaker 1: But that's really that's a wild thing to think as well,
Speaker 1: that they have over fifty six terabytes worth of ship
Speaker 1: from there um. And some were even claiming that they
Speaker 1: were able to get to the data that had people's
Speaker 1: like Licece driver's licenses. To become like a true patriot
Speaker 1: poster on parlor, you had to scan your driver's license
Speaker 1: so that they knew you were a real person. And
Speaker 1: so they have access to to that for like some
Speaker 1: of the bigger influencers on on that platform, So it
Speaker 1: should be fairly easy. I mean, you think, you think,
Speaker 1: you think it's you think, how is how is the
Speaker 1: FBI still asking us to like give them tips? Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there are arrests happening, but also
Speaker 1: it seems like I don't know that in other instances
Speaker 1: they would be all over this ship. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's Uh, I don't know. I really don't know how
Speaker 1: how they think or operate over there. But I mean
Speaker 1: there's a lot of also like damning allegations against the
Speaker 1: FBI and their response while things are going down at
Speaker 1: the Capitol as well. Um, but it makes sense because
Speaker 1: Trump has spent the like the interim since the election
Speaker 1: putting fucking stooges in these positions like in the Pentagon
Speaker 1: and ship. So yeah, when you need them suddenly, it's
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna have people like Devin Noonass best best
Speaker 1: boy in the building being like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I guess I didn't see anything, and then just slowly, um,
Speaker 1: you know, just hamshering the response. Yeah, it's been disappointing
Speaker 1: just across the board. The law enforcement response yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That's why it's like it's so weird
Speaker 1: because I'm like, well, I probably would have been like,
Speaker 1: they're not gonna do ship and then when like they're
Speaker 1: possibly not doing as much as they could, it's like, fuck, yeah, there,
Speaker 1: that's there. We'll we'll we'll see who who what side
Speaker 1: people are on. But that's why I think, Um, whatever
Speaker 1: Democrats do is going to be an indication of just
Speaker 1: how serious they take this threat. Regardless of what Joe
Speaker 1: Biden says, like you'd hope in Congress, they're like, I
Speaker 1: don't care what fucking Joe said. I was like we
Speaker 1: were hiding, uh and we heard these people screaming, and
Speaker 1: I would have hated to be on the other side
Speaker 1: of that door without any protection. Um, and see where
Speaker 1: they go with that. Yeah, Uh my hopes are not high.
Speaker 1: Despite what Pete Buddhaja just campaign would tell me, they're
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back and we're back. And so the House is
Speaker 1: moving to impeach now. Um, And yeah, that that was
Speaker 1: a that was a big deal when that used to happen.
Speaker 1: We we did like four straight weeks of content about
Speaker 1: the last time he was impeached. But now everything's happening
Speaker 1: so fast and there's so many bad things that he's
Speaker 1: done that it just seems like it's, Uh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but what have you read anything Miles or Caitlin about
Speaker 1: like how likely they are to succeeded? It all depends,
Speaker 1: you know. That's why, Like there's one where it's like,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's wait till uh Biden's been in a
Speaker 1: hundred days or after the inauguration. So the Senate math
Speaker 1: is different. Um, and others are like, you know, there
Speaker 1: are people there are Republicans in the Senate that like, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna no, McConnell hasn't really said anything. I
Speaker 1: don't know what will happen. That's what's so, you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's why you're like, you look at what it
Speaker 1: takes because the House can just get it through purely
Speaker 1: on their majority, But then what happens when it goes
Speaker 1: to the Senate and what form does it take? Do
Speaker 1: you have to then have the Chief Justice preside over
Speaker 1: like the hearing the Senate trial or do they just
Speaker 1: take a vote? There's so many ways to do it, uh,
Speaker 1: and my head was spending over the weekend just trying
Speaker 1: to like catch up with all these like wonky like
Speaker 1: scholars who are like, well, there's this way, then there's
Speaker 1: this way. But if you do it this way, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Like God, conpense just be like
Speaker 1: this motherfucker tried to have me killed, So I'm not
Speaker 1: playing that anymore. So I hear there you go uh
Speaker 1: amendment boom boom uh. And there's even report but that's
Speaker 1: that's not easy too. So all it it's just everyone
Speaker 1: seems like, yes, we know it's so hard to do,
Speaker 1: but I was like, oh, but it's so hard, and
Speaker 1: you know, maybe then we'll forget about it. It's just
Speaker 1: the connection between how urgent this is and then being
Speaker 1: caught up in like the obstacles to it is just
Speaker 1: like so stupid because you're like, well, then, so the
Speaker 1: alternative is just to be very passive about it, right.
Speaker 1: That doesn't seem helpful? No, not at all. Did you
Speaker 1: guys read the like two d posts analysis of Trump's
Speaker 1: speech on on Twitter. This dude just like went piece
Speaker 1: by piece through every part of Trump's speech and just
Speaker 1: kind of laid out how openly and clearly he was
Speaker 1: using language that that crowd would have understood to tell them,
Speaker 1: uh to go to go up and raise you know,
Speaker 1: uh basically do what they did. But hopefully you know
Speaker 1: they he he did. He made these like chilling things
Speaker 1: like in the alternative Mike Pence isn't gonna want to
Speaker 1: know what happens to him or ship like that. That
Speaker 1: was just straight up like you know, a death threat
Speaker 1: um or a threat of violence. And then another another
Speaker 1: interesting note is that he keeps being like, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna go up there and we're gonna like he's gonna
Speaker 1: be with the crowd. And then he went back and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, hung out back stage with his son listening
Speaker 1: to Gloria and then went to the White House and
Speaker 1: watched on watched on TV, and then complained that they
Speaker 1: looked poor. Really did you read that headline? Yeah, as
Speaker 1: he was watching, he was making complaints about the appearance
Speaker 1: of the fucking insurrectionists that they looked low class. I
Speaker 1: don't know why that's surprising to me, I don't know what,
Speaker 1: but like, but that's just so real, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like that whole that whole ideology is based
Speaker 1: on exploiting people weaker and poorer than you for your
Speaker 1: own your own gains and not giving a fuck even
Speaker 1: if they're even people who supports you are dying Like
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm just trying to fucking stay out
Speaker 1: of jail, dude. Also, I'll take your money to Wait.
Speaker 1: Who does he who does he think voted for him?
Speaker 1: Does he think like everyone's a millionaire? Oh? Yeah, Taylor Swift, Beyonce,
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt, Jennifer Enniston, all the cute people, only Cutei's
Speaker 1: voted for me? I don't know. Yeah, I mean, but
Speaker 1: that just shows how even then his ego is so
Speaker 1: wrapped up in all of it that it's it's not
Speaker 1: even the pure pursuit of power. Like if it was,
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have give them a funk if they all
Speaker 1: looked like shit and couldn't read like Dan Santa, But
Speaker 1: like the fact that he it's just more like he
Speaker 1: also wants it to like look slick, like oh, like
Speaker 1: where's Giselle and Tom Brady Like I mean, like, what
Speaker 1: the are you talking about? Like it's still this weird,
Speaker 1: it's still very theatrical, and it's it's interesting to see
Speaker 1: the levels of people who are actually connected to the
Speaker 1: severity of what had happened, and those that like are
Speaker 1: not because clearly we saw the lines of like oath
Speaker 1: keepers that were like you know, serpenting through the crowds
Speaker 1: very in a very organized fashion to get to the doors,
Speaker 1: and like there were people with their clearly motherfucker's with
Speaker 1: the plan who used these big gass crowds for cover. Um.
Speaker 1: And then you have people who, like I've just been
Speaker 1: I've been trying to read as many interviews of the
Speaker 1: actual people who went in who were just kind of
Speaker 1: like some people like yeah, and then we got in
Speaker 1: there and and then we showed them and it's like
Speaker 1: what and he showed them what you didn't And there's
Speaker 1: like this thing where that's I think the dangerous part
Speaker 1: is like those people who found themselves walking in and
Speaker 1: then kind of being confused when they were in there
Speaker 1: and being like, oh, huh, what do we do? Oh
Speaker 1: I'm on a no fly list now? Um, like those
Speaker 1: people getting them to that next point where they know
Speaker 1: what to do. Is what is the actual danger here?
Speaker 1: Is Like there's plenty of people who were who just
Speaker 1: went to the fascism show, uh and realized, Oh, I
Speaker 1: think I kind of vibe with this. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: fascism was the headliner. I thought I was there for Trump,
Speaker 1: but fascism closed the show out and I some people
Speaker 1: didn't funk with it. Some people have been you know,
Speaker 1: down since like their first couple of albums, and I
Speaker 1: just heard it, like I heard some stuff. But now
Speaker 1: I'm kind of interested because it kind of made me
Speaker 1: feel powerful in a way that put me diametrically opposed
Speaker 1: to all these other things that I've been ingesting saying
Speaker 1: that these are the forces I'm working against um And
Speaker 1: that's what I think, you know, that's that radicalization process
Speaker 1: that you don't people need to begin to think about
Speaker 1: and what deep platforming means in terms of emboldening those people,
Speaker 1: because you're damn sure not going to storm a capital
Speaker 1: if you didn't think a president had your back, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? The just over over the weekend,
Speaker 1: I was kind of researching a lot of like stuff
Speaker 1: about historic fascism for no no real reason whatsoever, and
Speaker 1: one of the experts was pointing out that like yet
Speaker 1: another red flag we should have seen a long time ago,
Speaker 1: is that fascists are typically disgusted by their supporters, like
Speaker 1: fascist leaders are oftentimes the way that Trump is towards
Speaker 1: his supporters here, they're just kind of a means to
Speaker 1: an end that uh, because it's driven so much by narcissism,
Speaker 1: and for the narcissist, nothing that they're trying to fill
Speaker 1: the hole in the middle of their soul with is
Speaker 1: ever good enough. So, you know, he hates the supporters
Speaker 1: for the same reason he hates Donald Trump Jr. Um.
Speaker 1: It's they they don't live up to his image of
Speaker 1: what you know, how what it would take, Yeah, what
Speaker 1: what it would take to make him happy, which that
Speaker 1: that's never going to happen. So um, that's kind of
Speaker 1: why it's this perpetual uh despair machine, both internally and
Speaker 1: then out olternally. Is I think the correct alternal? Um?
Speaker 1: I wonder is that why Hitler had Hugo Boss designed
Speaker 1: the Nazi uniforms. Probably he's like, honey, these these uniforms
Speaker 1: are a mess. If you go boxing here and we
Speaker 1: need to we need a head to toe makeover. Now
Speaker 1: he was he was a pr He was obsessed with
Speaker 1: pr and looks and well right, and that's you know,
Speaker 1: it's the beer hall push that failed in his asses
Speaker 1: in jail. He starts being like, all right, so I
Speaker 1: need to I need to fine tune this propaganda now
Speaker 1: exactly like and that's what is you know again, just
Speaker 1: like anything, you want to do something bad enough, and
Speaker 1: you get fucking thwarded, you'll go back to the lab
Speaker 1: and try and figure out how to do that ship better. Um,
Speaker 1: and that problem. Like to think that that process is
Speaker 1: an emotion. I think it's just so naive and foolish.
Speaker 1: And as much as you know, even as you listen
Speaker 1: to this show, you might not want to acknowledge that
Speaker 1: there is a growing issue of fascism in the United States,
Speaker 1: but make no mistake, this is something that our lives
Speaker 1: are are are not going to be the same, and
Speaker 1: we are going to have to confront this issue head
Speaker 1: on for anything to happen. Because the you've clearly seen
Speaker 1: there are people even that you think will protect you,
Speaker 1: that are in on it. Uh that or at least
Speaker 1: don't give a funk to the point that you know
Speaker 1: you are protected or you are safe. And I think,
Speaker 1: you know, really accepting that is going to be the
Speaker 1: first step of the citizens of this country to actually
Speaker 1: be participating actively in you know, snuffing this ship out
Speaker 1: because it's not going to be handled just by Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelutho and Chuck Schumer, which is why all this talk
Speaker 1: about like unity and we have to unify like from
Speaker 1: Republicans and Dems is it's just like it feels like
Speaker 1: it's just brushing this very real issue of fascism under
Speaker 1: the rug and it's just like, forget about that. It's unity,
Speaker 1: that's what we need to focus on. And it's like yeah, no,
Speaker 1: mm hmm. It's just like what happens to any huge issue.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh no, I'm telling you all. You know,
Speaker 1: white supremacy and racism is a big issue in this
Speaker 1: country centuries later, you know what I mean? And what's
Speaker 1: going to happen if people do the And I get it.
Speaker 1: You don't want to think you live in a country
Speaker 1: where you might have to confront fascism directly or have
Speaker 1: that ship on your doorstep and decide what you would do,
Speaker 1: uh like to you know, speak up against it or
Speaker 1: call somebody out or really try and figure if you
Speaker 1: have a hand in probably doing something to take someone's
Speaker 1: influence away or draped. I don't know, whatever it is.
Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable, but that's the thing people have to accept
Speaker 1: and you can tell, like for people who are like
Speaker 1: joking and being like ha ha, like it's all you
Speaker 1: know whatever, it's past, it's not it really isn't. It
Speaker 1: really really isn't. And and I don't mean that to
Speaker 1: like you throw people off, but it's just you can't
Speaker 1: you can't look at what happened and you can't say
Speaker 1: that this isn't gonna radicalize more people, that this isn't
Speaker 1: going to This ends on January twenty. I mean, people
Speaker 1: on fucking TV be like guys, on January though, Joe
Speaker 1: Biden will be president and we can find uh huh huh,
Speaker 1: we'll go back to you know, mass shootings from white
Speaker 1: supremacists that are just swept under the rug and then
Speaker 1: presumably more and more coordinated fascism um one. So you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of tying this all into the social media
Speaker 1: movement of you know, Trump being uh band from Twitter,
Speaker 1: and you know, we were talking about the beer hall pushed.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me that like fascists at that time.
Speaker 1: You know, I've talked before on this show about how
Speaker 1: the creator of the loud speaker blamed himself for the
Speaker 1: rise of fashion. Yeah, because it was this new technology
Speaker 1: that enabled uh, one person to reach a stadium full
Speaker 1: of people as opposed to uh, just you know whoever
Speaker 1: was in earshot. And I that is an explanation that
Speaker 1: gets swept under the rug because it's not interesting and
Speaker 1: it's just kind of weird to think back of like
Speaker 1: technology we take for granted as something that when it's
Speaker 1: new and unregulated and people don't know how to deal
Speaker 1: with it can lead to the rise of these authoritarian
Speaker 1: and fascists, you know, hate groups that turn into like
Speaker 1: national governments that wage war. But one of the commissioners
Speaker 1: that the EU or the EU commissioner was speculating that,
Speaker 1: you know, this could be the a turning point for
Speaker 1: social media and for just big tech in general if
Speaker 1: they actually you know, follow through and keep using their
Speaker 1: platforms to persecute or prosecute fascism and you know, fight fascism,
Speaker 1: because you know, the thing that is needed is is
Speaker 1: for them too. I don't know, like they need to
Speaker 1: take responsibility as publishers, not as platforms. They need to
Speaker 1: quit it with this platform ship because when they act
Speaker 1: like they're just a platform and everything is unregulated, fascism
Speaker 1: just inherently wins out like the they need to be
Speaker 1: putting at least as much money into the regulating of
Speaker 1: the nation that's getting spread on their platforms as they
Speaker 1: put into trying to grow their platforms, if not more like,
Speaker 1: I mean, they also just put an entire industry of
Speaker 1: fact checkers and journalists out of business, So like, go
Speaker 1: hire all of them and put them on fact checking
Speaker 1: and having some responsibility and what your platform is used
Speaker 1: for because it is used as a publishing tool and
Speaker 1: you're just not not acknowledging that. Yeah. Uh and even
Speaker 1: the man if if if you have to explain censorship
Speaker 1: people again, I'm sorry you do. It's so sad how
Speaker 1: people just go like you can't, I can't do racism
Speaker 1: wherever I want. This is censorship. Now. That's like if
Speaker 1: you get arrested. Uh, and they're just saying based on
Speaker 1: just solely what just you can't say that you're arrested
Speaker 1: for saying that, now, for committing for saying that, for
Speaker 1: having a too hot you're arrested. No, just saying you're
Speaker 1: engaging with a private company, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: and you you have ventured in agreement by using their
Speaker 1: services and for them to just fucking mind the ship
Speaker 1: out of your data. Uh, for you to say that
Speaker 1: ship and when you and and when you violate it,
Speaker 1: that's when you're taken off. And I think even people
Speaker 1: to like there are people that are much more intelligent
Speaker 1: who understand this is not a censorship thing. Um. But
Speaker 1: I think the the interesting take on I've seen it
Speaker 1: is like what, I think this just demonstrates the gigantic
Speaker 1: power of big tech though too that a couple of
Speaker 1: companies go all right, yeah, yeah, yeah, let's pull the
Speaker 1: plug on this and studden like it's quiet yeah, And
Speaker 1: then you're like, so what does this mean exactly? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but monopoly or something? What's going on here? Because I
Speaker 1: think that's another issue that obviously has to be addressed
Speaker 1: as well. But the idea of you know, all this
Speaker 1: other ship is just such a deflection from you know,
Speaker 1: five people lost their lives because this person in the
Speaker 1: Republican Party just basically you know, bankrolled in insurrection Loki
Speaker 1: and use a bunch of stooges and people on Twitter
Speaker 1: to kind of keep the momentum going. Um on the stuff.
Speaker 1: I've retweeted this guy Gabel de la Hey who tweeted
Speaker 1: just to be clear, the president being able to invade
Speaker 1: your consciousness anywhere at any time to spout off psychotic
Speaker 1: nonsense is way more or welly in than the president
Speaker 1: not being allowed to do that. Um, which I think
Speaker 1: is a good way to kind of put the whole
Speaker 1: thing into perspective. Right yeah, I like you were saying
Speaker 1: just the immense power that that these platforms have and
Speaker 1: that they have totally just taken for granted or you know,
Speaker 1: claimed that they aren't responsible for, uh wielding right up
Speaker 1: to this point, like that this needs to be a
Speaker 1: huge focus of And also it would create jobs and
Speaker 1: that's the most important thing in America. Oh yeah, hell yeah,
Speaker 1: a dog, You're creating jobs in the capital man, all
Speaker 1: that cleanup. Caitlin, It's been a pleasure having you on
Speaker 1: the daily Zeygeist as always. Where can people find you
Speaker 1: and follow you? You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram,
Speaker 1: those wonderful social media platforms that are so good and
Speaker 1: helpful at Caitlin Durante, and you can check out my website,
Speaker 1: I guess Caitlin dand dot com. I don't know why
Speaker 1: you would do that, especially now that I'm quitting comedy officially. No,
Speaker 1: but um oh and then listen to the podcast that
Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus and I do, the Bechtel Cast, which is
Speaker 1: all about feminist film analysis. It's a great show. Um.
Speaker 1: Is there a tweet or some of the work of
Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying. Yes, I have a tweet
Speaker 1: from at I'm in Georgio Palamne, very funny comic who
Speaker 1: said no one has consistently presented a better case to
Speaker 1: defund the police than the police. And another one from
Speaker 1: him as well that I just retweeted, relevant to our
Speaker 1: conversation earlier. If you want unity, you're more than welcome
Speaker 1: to join us in condemning and toppling white supremacy. So
Speaker 1: that's from Solomon Miles. Where you can people find you?
Speaker 1: What's tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram at Miles of
Speaker 1: Gray also for to day Fiance if you just want to,
Speaker 1: you know, vibe out on some reality, you know, just
Speaker 1: vibe purely, purely. Um, let's see some tweets that I like. First,
Speaker 1: there's this one. I'm gonna just send it to the chat.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping you'll have seen this one. Uh. It's it's
Speaker 1: the image that makes this truly Uh. And to remember
Speaker 1: it's like this little boy just in like this oversized
Speaker 1: coat and it just says, took my brother to Target.
Speaker 1: But like the kids, he looks like a Java from
Speaker 1: Star Wars because this little boys wearing a quote so
Speaker 1: big it just looks like a walking coat, like the
Speaker 1: guys just taking photos of it, like walking around Target
Speaker 1: boys like so just it's just funny, man, It's just so.
Speaker 1: It's just sincere, you know, I needed something like that.
Speaker 1: I didn't need any like you know, capitalist ship capital
Speaker 1: storming ship posts to laugh at anymore because I started
Speaker 1: to wear it in. But also this other one is
Speaker 1: from Patti Harrison at party Harderson, Uh for all the
Speaker 1: Babu frick hlive out there, She tweets, paws up. They
Speaker 1: just cast Babu Frick as the new Samantha and Sex
Speaker 1: in the City because I think the reports are that
Speaker 1: Samantha might not be the reboot or whatever whatever the
Speaker 1: new thing is so and not fuck it. Yeah, Babu frick,
Speaker 1: I'm here for that. I would actually make the show
Speaker 1: in interesting, seriously, like if they had to treat Babu
Speaker 1: Frick as Babu frick like and not as like Samanthan
Speaker 1: like and Babu, like, what's going on with you? And
Speaker 1: I just feel like I would watch a show where
Speaker 1: Charlotte and Babu talk about Babu's failed relationship with a
Speaker 1: gallerist who he thinks is just using him for, you know,
Speaker 1: repairs on her droids. Frick representation. Where where's it? Frick? Jamie?
Speaker 1: Come on now right this episode, right this, Jamie, I
Speaker 1: implore you, right this speculative episode of six in the
Speaker 1: City where Samantha has been replaced by Babu. Frick tweet
Speaker 1: I've been enjoying. Uh. Elon Musk at Elon Musk on
Speaker 1: January nine, tweeted my fourteen year old son Saxon said
Speaker 1: he feels like one will be a good year. I agree,
Speaker 1: let us all make it so. Uh And I just wow.
Speaker 1: First of all, I can't believe there's a dude named
Speaker 1: Musk Saxon or Saxon Musk out there. Yeah, just wild
Speaker 1: and such a This is like two days after the
Speaker 1: Stormy of the Capitol. Uh. I think one day after
Speaker 1: he was named the richest human being on the planet Earth,
Speaker 1: possibly in the history of the planet Earth. Um, so,
Speaker 1: just dynamite self awareness. Hell yeah, no, there's no no, No,
Speaker 1: like white person born in generational wealth has any kind
Speaker 1: of awareness. I mean maybe like the one Disney granddaughter.
Speaker 1: You know, there's very few class traders like that, you know,
Speaker 1: because you know, we remember the little boy he had
Speaker 1: who's went around with the emeralds in his pocket. Hm.
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Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as the song we ride out
Speaker 1: on miles What are we riding into this fine week upon? Uh?
Speaker 1: This is another one from Alpa Goda. I know we
Speaker 1: went on Alpacoda yesterday, but I was just reading more
Speaker 1: about al Pa Goda. This guy started off like scoring
Speaker 1: films and then kind of just like maybe I can
Speaker 1: start making like instrumental like music as well. And this
Speaker 1: album that the song Black that we wrote out on
Speaker 1: earlier was from is like a bunch of these like
Speaker 1: voice notes and like ideas that he kind of put
Speaker 1: together and wanted every track to sort of feel like
Speaker 1: a film, like where it feels like there's an like
Speaker 1: an establishing shot, like he thinks very much like a
Speaker 1: like a cinematographer as he makes music. So I kind
Speaker 1: of started listening again to that, and it sort of
Speaker 1: makes the music very, very enjoyable. Uh So, this one
Speaker 1: is called Steel by al Pa Goda, and you know,
Speaker 1: check out the whole album. It's really nice to have
Speaker 1: on in the background and do work or read or whatever.
Speaker 1: So Il Pagoda, this one's steal. And just close your
Speaker 1: eyes and see the movie where the fascists are helped
Speaker 1: to account and then the people of good of good
Speaker 1: minded and good conscience helped to restore order and equality
Speaker 1: to the land. M stop the steel more like yeah?
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