Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one, sixty six,
Speaker 1: Episode one of dais like guys production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where you take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. It's Tuesday, January five, one fifteen
Speaker 1: days until January zero new COVID cases in New Zealand yesterday,
Speaker 1: zero deaths since late September. Uh, and the US is
Speaker 1: a mess. That's just a mess. We'll just leave it
Speaker 1: at that. Um. My name is Jack O'Brien, Ak and
Speaker 1: Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always
Speaker 1: buy my co host, Mr Miles Grag. Miles and Jack
Speaker 1: are back again. Done I twenty twenty one. Thing that
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Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, he really came. No, never never missed
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Speaker 1: Garbelt to Garblow Greta Garblau. Well, Miles, Yeah, we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back. It's been a while. We took a break
Speaker 1: from the show from each other. Great to hear your
Speaker 1: boys like, um, alright, uh, we are thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined in our third right, the hilarious, the talented, There
Speaker 1: brilliant Chelsea Webber Smithy. Hey Chelsea, where you coming to
Speaker 1: us from? What part of the earth are you at?
Speaker 1: I am in Seattle and it's been raining for two weeks.
Speaker 1: I think you can't really walk any Yeah, it's it's uh,
Speaker 1: it's real depressing here. So all you can do is
Speaker 1: does that you're contributing to people's ability to socially distance
Speaker 1: or do you feel like in a place like that,
Speaker 1: where you're accustomed to the rain, it's not much of
Speaker 1: a factor. Well, I feel like you're not going outside
Speaker 1: as much, right, so it feels like maybe you're gonna
Speaker 1: try to get whatever with with people inside. So maybe
Speaker 1: that's bad. But I don't know. I'm not a scientist.
Speaker 1: I'm no scientists, I'm no scientists. Yeah, there is a
Speaker 1: speaking of the rain, there's this article. First of all,
Speaker 1: there was a rain storm in l a that had
Speaker 1: people on Twitter being like, what what is this madness?
Speaker 1: What is this water falling from the sky. But it
Speaker 1: was like extra violent and l A is not prepared,
Speaker 1: like it's just not bill for that much rain. I
Speaker 1: had left two of my trash cans on the curb
Speaker 1: and they were down the street and around the corner.
Speaker 1: They got washed away. It was wild swept away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got swept away, but just in my mind, like
Speaker 1: the storm of stuff, they became sentient and we're like,
Speaker 1: you know, um, but there's a there was an article.
Speaker 1: I have to figure out what magazine it was in.
Speaker 1: But over the uh two weeks that we weren't recording
Speaker 1: about how um, every like two hundred years, there's like
Speaker 1: this massive rainstorm in southern and central California. It's the
Speaker 1: one that's we gotta worry about. It's bad, man, because
Speaker 1: it could wipe out the capital, the entire central valley.
Speaker 1: And it's oh yeah, it's always been. It's like this
Speaker 1: horrific thing. I used always smoke. We didn't think about
Speaker 1: in college of my other like trip like edge Lord.
Speaker 1: Friends are like, no, man, the thing we gotta worry
Speaker 1: about is that delta up there flooding in a huge
Speaker 1: fraud and then what happens. Yeah, it's it's bad for
Speaker 1: central coasts. It's also bad for just everywhere because that's
Speaker 1: they grow like an unprecedented amount of food. It's also
Speaker 1: bad for lots of other parts of California because of
Speaker 1: all the you know, chemicals that are used on the
Speaker 1: farms up there, so those will just flood everywhere and
Speaker 1: then dry up and turn into poison dust. Anyways, what
Speaker 1: do you think like teenagers right now who are smoking?
Speaker 1: Because I did the same thing, except that I had
Speaker 1: a little bit of an apocalypse prepper dad, and so
Speaker 1: you no, no, no, no, no, I still have pepper vibe.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. No, in within reason for sure, but you know,
Speaker 1: casual um, But what are they thinking now? What are
Speaker 1: those kids who are getting too high, you know, alone
Speaker 1: in their house? It must be way more hardcore. Oh
Speaker 1: I feel so yeah. I have a lot of empathy
Speaker 1: for teens right now because I would be tripping if
Speaker 1: I couldn't see my friends and I couldn't do I
Speaker 1: feel like you would be smoking. And the kind of
Speaker 1: thoughts you have given like the world you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: like with automation, man, Like what if we're not even
Speaker 1: smoking the weed anymore? After this? And then like you
Speaker 1: have that moment like it's all I have to offer
Speaker 1: to smoke weed me from the automatons. Oh man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely don't terrible time to be a like young and nihilistic.
Speaker 1: I would say, absolutely, Chelsea. We're going to get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we are going to tell our listeners a couple of
Speaker 1: the things we're talking about. We're getting catch up on
Speaker 1: the stimulus checks. Where we're at with the six hundred
Speaker 1: and the blocking of the two thousand dollar stimulus checks
Speaker 1: in in the United States. The Senate hangs in the
Speaker 1: balance over a election happening in Georgia today. Uh and
Speaker 1: Trump was caught on tape just straight up asking for
Speaker 1: the Georgia's Secretary of State to find votes to make
Speaker 1: him the winner in Georgia, which is wouldn't even win
Speaker 1: him the election. But yeah, then we'll talk about hilarious Baldwin,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about being dead, We'll talk Elatia, We'll talk
Speaker 1: about Duncan Donuts. They got a new hyper extra supercharged
Speaker 1: coffee that I'm excited about. All of that plenty more,
Speaker 1: But Chelsea, first, we like to ask our guest, what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history. That's revealing about who
Speaker 1: you are. Um, what do I have here for you? Um?
Speaker 1: Oh it's all of it is so weird for what
Speaker 1: I do for for the podcast. But today I got
Speaker 1: for you Disney Villain's Gay Drag Queens. So alright, alright,
Speaker 1: So I mean, okay, American hysteria talking about you know,
Speaker 1: one of our before off, Mike Jack loves a little
Speaker 1: Satanic panic panic. You know, mass hysterias. The psychology is
Speaker 1: a science, and that's kind of that's a folk that's
Speaker 1: the that's what you focus on. That's kind of your
Speaker 1: right now. And what's so cool is that Cracked was
Speaker 1: one of my original inspos for learning about the Satanic panic.
Speaker 1: I mean, you guys had like kind of like good
Speaker 1: listicles about different you know, moral panics and stuff, and
Speaker 1: that was really I got. I got ideas from you man.
Speaker 1: So it's really cool. Um but yeah, yeah, hopefully yeah,
Speaker 1: you're you're not gonna like how much it is. It
Speaker 1: all adds up. That's our mentality. No donation too small
Speaker 1: in this church truly. So I was asking, I was like,
Speaker 1: what kind of rabbit hole I'm guessing you're you're saying, well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about on the show what, What's what, What's
Speaker 1: what's in your shirt? What's going on in there? Well,
Speaker 1: so yeah, we've cover a lot of conspiracy theories and
Speaker 1: moral panics, but eventually we kind of have moved into
Speaker 1: sort of a bigger picture of like how American narratives
Speaker 1: and how um, sort of our national mythologies come to
Speaker 1: be with whether that be political or like pop culture.
Speaker 1: And so we're doing a lot more pop culture. And
Speaker 1: so right now, um, I'm focusing on trash talk shows.
Speaker 1: So you know Jerry Springer, geraldo, um, sort of the
Speaker 1: classic fist fight, uh, stuff that people really there was
Speaker 1: like a big outcry about. And so you know, I
Speaker 1: went in just being like, oh, these are such great
Speaker 1: vehicles of hysteria. That's what our seasons about, um, because
Speaker 1: they spread moral panics, you know, I mean Graldo had
Speaker 1: his Satanic panic special. But you know, I I figured
Speaker 1: I'd already talked about all that stuff in different ways.
Speaker 1: So I started reading these academic texts, um, which I
Speaker 1: love to do, about you know, trash talk shows and
Speaker 1: their cultural value. And I just found uh so much
Speaker 1: about visibility and talk shows and about how you know,
Speaker 1: people who were gender non conforming, for example, had no venue. Um,
Speaker 1: and even though they were ridiculed on these shows was
Speaker 1: the one place where someone was letting them speak for themselves.
Speaker 1: And so it's just like all about how activists would
Speaker 1: sneak in their messages and they would actually train each
Speaker 1: other to go on talk shows to say, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get made fun of. People are gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: whoop and yell and be really mean to you, but
Speaker 1: you're gonna have this like fifteen seconds where you can
Speaker 1: say your piece and they would get a bunch of
Speaker 1: letters after. But the problem was that white supremacists also
Speaker 1: did that. I don't know if you guys remember the
Speaker 1: fist fight of GLDO, fame of h you know, roy
Speaker 1: in Iss the black activist and uh the skinhead dude. Um.
Speaker 1: So it's just this and then they would get their
Speaker 1: message their moment, and they trained each other about how
Speaker 1: to be on talk shows. So it's just this like
Speaker 1: so much richer than just being like, oh, it's like
Speaker 1: a mother daughter dominatrix team, you know. Um. So it's
Speaker 1: just I don't know, I always I always find a
Speaker 1: lot more than I think, you know, it always has
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of different value that I didn't
Speaker 1: at all expect, So that that's been my my big
Speaker 1: rabbit hole. And you know, there's so much about class
Speaker 1: and it's it's it is a rabbit hole. But but
Speaker 1: you guys can listen to that episode. So definitely coming
Speaker 1: out because I feel like it almost as when you're
Speaker 1: young and you watch shows like that, it's kind of
Speaker 1: almost sets your expectation for where society is in terms
Speaker 1: of given issue. It's like, wait, someone is having sex
Speaker 1: with their step daughter but they're not related. Boom, yeah right, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's boo. That's boo. And then you're like, oh, trans
Speaker 1: person like maybe being on the low, and then the
Speaker 1: deception back then it's like we were trained to be
Speaker 1: like that's just because that was like the thing. And
Speaker 1: I think it's a really yeah, underrated way of even
Speaker 1: if you're like, oh, these people, this is bullshit, it
Speaker 1: has this effective like the spectacle of it all and
Speaker 1: being like that's the reaction the mass group is having
Speaker 1: to this thing. Um yeah, it's just pure uncut judgment.
Speaker 1: It's like the actual physical embodiment of like public opinion. Right,
Speaker 1: but think about it as like a Twitter thread right,
Speaker 1: everybody's coming on and like basically getting in fist fight,
Speaker 1: like verbal fist fights, and everybody. It's like this horrible,
Speaker 1: horrible and wonderful democratic thing, right, but it's so complicated
Speaker 1: because you don't know what it's too dangerous. But we
Speaker 1: want to protect free speech, and it's just this like
Speaker 1: total for me, it's just a talk show now, but
Speaker 1: it's it's a global, all no holds barred talk show
Speaker 1: that like spills into the streets. Now when you know
Speaker 1: people are getting in like Antifa Trump supporter fistfights we
Speaker 1: made like twitter of a talk show. How much that
Speaker 1: would ease people up to be like, I just watched
Speaker 1: the talk show version where the white supremacist is going
Speaker 1: to go with the you know, anti capitalists whatever, whatever
Speaker 1: the funk you just kind of watch, huh. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: that's a way to do it too. Yeah, But I mean,
Speaker 1: what if we saw each other's what if we saw
Speaker 1: each other's faces again? To you know, like that's a
Speaker 1: that's like a very human thing to miss when you're
Speaker 1: like facial expressions and nationalists are like that guy not
Speaker 1: that cool looking actually, yeah, kind of a dink. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the Captain America with like red laser eyes Avatar
Speaker 1: is way cooler than this whatever I'm witnessing. Edge Lord
Speaker 1: tweets Yeah yeah, maybe I'll maybe I'll go back to
Speaker 1: my reading group. Chelsea. How how does that all tie
Speaker 1: back to uh Disney Villains? Oh god right, Um, well
Speaker 1: that's our next episode is called Disneyfication, So how um,
Speaker 1: how we've kind of cartoonized our culture and ourselves. And
Speaker 1: infantilization is a big theme of you know, childhood being
Speaker 1: a really new thing, um that really didn't exist like
Speaker 1: as as a period of time until after um child
Speaker 1: labor laws were past, and that's like the twenties and thirties,
Speaker 1: and you get this like the child becomes precious, you know,
Speaker 1: you get stuffed animals instead of you know, we make
Speaker 1: soft all of these hard things. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: what that is. And then of course the sort of
Speaker 1: revisionist history is another part of it, and softening our
Speaker 1: history of you know, genocide, slavery, whatever you want. You know,
Speaker 1: all of it is kind of there in Disney, but
Speaker 1: it's it's just like made into like a stuffed animal version. Um.
Speaker 1: And then the Disney Villains is mostly that's a fun
Speaker 1: one because if you go back and you think about
Speaker 1: all of the Disney villains. They're either very effeminate or
Speaker 1: they're very like drag queenie, you know, like you know,
Speaker 1: Ursula is based dude, oh baby, yeah. And I mean
Speaker 1: like Ursula is based on divine so like literally period.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, so yeah, it's like oh right, right, and
Speaker 1: so there's just like this thread and you know the
Speaker 1: lyricist is Jaffar's I don't know, but he's just you know,
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, yeah, it's gay vibes. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: very gay. And I mean Scar right, he's just a
Speaker 1: super super homo and uh, I mean I think of Gaston,
Speaker 1: he's my he's my personal favorite a Disney character. So
Speaker 1: that's that's problematic. But you know it's just he's just
Speaker 1: like throwing himself back on the chair and showing his
Speaker 1: you know, I use antlers and all of my decorating
Speaker 1: and uh so just sort of like what's that about too?
Speaker 1: Like the effeminate because that's also a theme in Horror, right,
Speaker 1: is like the cross dressing you know, um ed Geen
Speaker 1: inspired psycho villain. Um. So it's just I'm just like
Speaker 1: what we do is we just go in every direction possible,
Speaker 1: and then I find like the root and then we
Speaker 1: choose a little. It all down. So right now, Gay
Speaker 1: Disney Villains is my That's where I'm at. Baby, what
Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated? Underrated? Is I had?
Speaker 1: Basically I talked about it already. I talked about talk
Speaker 1: shows and that was my um what I'd written down,
Speaker 1: So I ruined my thing already. But but yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's just such a I recommend this book Freach Freaks,
Speaker 1: talk Back, Um, And of course I'm gonna forget the
Speaker 1: guy's name because I'm an asshole, but um, it's it's
Speaker 1: really great, and it's just a he's a gay academic
Speaker 1: and I think maybe a philosopher. So it's just this
Speaker 1: really fun book about and it talks about freak shows. Gamson,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Yeah, and um talks about freak
Speaker 1: shows and kind of compares sort of the visibility for
Speaker 1: people with disabilities that existed because we look back and
Speaker 1: like pity this thing, which is also really like kind
Speaker 1: of gross because these folks had a lot more agency
Speaker 1: than we give them credit for, you know, and so
Speaker 1: we just it's sort of about like you know, middle
Speaker 1: class pity and all of these different things. Um, so
Speaker 1: that's I just I find I guess I found found
Speaker 1: that trash talk shows are severely underrated, at least as
Speaker 1: um a cultural study. What's something you think is overrated? Um?
Speaker 1: The Flight Attendant the show? Have you guys watched it? Know?
Speaker 1: But the only take I hear from people is being
Speaker 1: like day and I started watching The Flight Attendant as
Speaker 1: if it's like tortured. No one's been unequivocal. It's always
Speaker 1: been like really it's bad, or it's like it's so
Speaker 1: bad it's good, But I don't know, I can't stop
Speaker 1: watching something like is what it's like a freaking like
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent or something on Rotten Tomatoes. So it's
Speaker 1: like everything I've seen on Twitter as people just being
Speaker 1: like I'm obsessed with this. It's so good, so good,
Speaker 1: very positive. Yeah, And it's just like I kept falling
Speaker 1: asleep and I kept like, you know, coming into my
Speaker 1: partners just you know, I'm asking her like what the
Speaker 1: funk is going on? Every one minute? And so eventually
Speaker 1: we just couldn't. Like my brain just doesn't do well
Speaker 1: with that type of that type of thing where you
Speaker 1: have to remember so many different facets. But it's just
Speaker 1: like it's a comic book style like I mostly watch
Speaker 1: like melodramatic murder shows starring teenagers, you know, like or
Speaker 1: like a euphoria euphoria or like the GROSSI or Jersey Shore.
Speaker 1: Those are yeah, yeah, I mean almost basically in that
Speaker 1: fight on the boardwalk, I mean, remember that was almost
Speaker 1: a murder bro it was a one hit like he
Speaker 1: was when he was and he ran away. Just remember me,
Speaker 1: b yeah, I know you can't help it. You're just
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, And I mean how much like that is.
Speaker 1: It's trash talk shows taken to another level where it's
Speaker 1: just like we want to see this fist fight, but
Speaker 1: we're not allowed to have fist fights. But we're like,
Speaker 1: but I'll watch a fist fight. But yeah, so flight Attendant. Sorry.
Speaker 1: My assumption, based on like the things I had heard,
Speaker 1: was that it was more of like a straightforward, uh
Speaker 1: like murder mystery, but it's by the dude who made
Speaker 1: Riverdale and apparently like yeah, apparently it was like some
Speaker 1: of them, but it was back in that I've heard
Speaker 1: it heightened kind of like it's where it's just sort
Speaker 1: of a weird, poppy reality. I don't know the person
Speaker 1: who made a Riverdale surely couldn't have written something that
Speaker 1: was slightly exaggerated the mellow drama. That show so huge,
Speaker 1: and I love it. I started, Uh, I just started
Speaker 1: watching Bridgert. I know, I finished Bridgerton. She started her
Speaker 1: new Netflix vehicle. That was some ship I've never seen.
Speaker 1: I'm not even talking. Well, we'll have to We'll have
Speaker 1: to talk about it people. It's I don't know, I
Speaker 1: have a lot to have a lot. I tried to
Speaker 1: get started on that and uh, the my my wife
Speaker 1: was not not interested in it. She wasn't feeling that one.
Speaker 1: But I I from what I've heard, I'm I'm intrigued. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we watched Narcos Mexico instead, and that all right, Let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back. And
Speaker 1: we're back. So the sex D dollar stimulus checks are
Speaker 1: in the mail. The I R. S Is going to
Speaker 1: be putting up a website where you can track whether
Speaker 1: where where your check is at um or they were
Speaker 1: entering people's bank accounts, uh direct deposit over the past
Speaker 1: couple of days, and there was a strange political occurrence
Speaker 1: where both Democrats and Donald Trump were kind of on
Speaker 1: the same page about the idea of a two thousand
Speaker 1: dollar stimulus um, and then it got blocked by Republicans
Speaker 1: and also like some establishment democrats, right, Mitch McConnell's really
Speaker 1: really making a meal of it more than anything. And
Speaker 1: it was funny even to hear Lindsay Graham trying to
Speaker 1: be like, two thousand dollars isn't socialism, guy, it's people
Speaker 1: need the money. And I'm like, and I was like,
Speaker 1: shut the funk up it, wait what. I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: where people were end ng up at the towards the
Speaker 1: end of the year on this thing where I don't Again,
Speaker 1: the calculus was really strange for some Republicans who are like,
Speaker 1: who are acknowledging the suffering of people, and then others
Speaker 1: who were like, you know, nor usually scheduled programming, which
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know. I'm too rich to know
Speaker 1: what the blight of the the working people are, So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh, Venmo, though they're doing their part.
Speaker 1: You could if you have a physical check you can
Speaker 1: cash through Venmo. They're trying to make they're trying to
Speaker 1: make it as easy as possible because people need the
Speaker 1: money fucking immediately. And yeah, they should be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: why don't you avoid going into a check cashing line
Speaker 1: or something like that in the time of COVID or
Speaker 1: something like, let's make this as easy as possible. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the debate around it was really really odd because on
Speaker 1: one hand, you're like, okay, so either Trump, you know,
Speaker 1: I think maybe he's merely just taking this side to
Speaker 1: make it as chaotic for Republicans because he's mad at them,
Speaker 1: because he's surely never actually like had any kind of
Speaker 1: empathy for these people, for anyone really, so yeah, he's
Speaker 1: incapable of that. Well, so those are the That's one
Speaker 1: example of the stakes the of today's election. There are
Speaker 1: two Senate seats in Georgia that are up for grabs.
Speaker 1: I have no idea what's going to happen. Nobody has
Speaker 1: any idea. What's going to happen. Is something that we
Speaker 1: learned in the election. Yeah, just you know, you just
Speaker 1: we just got to floor it in every election is
Speaker 1: just floor it. Who cares? Man? I accidentally made friends
Speaker 1: with a Trump supporter recently. It was one of those
Speaker 1: things where it didn't come out. It's so weird how
Speaker 1: long you can know someone before you know that, like,
Speaker 1: how much you can have in common with someone, and
Speaker 1: then suddenly it's like, oh, like there's just like it's
Speaker 1: so like poison and uh yeah, all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he realized that not, you know, he really he was
Speaker 1: a Christian conservative and I didn't know it. And he
Speaker 1: realized that I was gay and a bunch of other
Speaker 1: you know things, like I was a liberal, and he
Speaker 1: was refied of it. He was so scared of me.
Speaker 1: And he was like, you know, like you guys like
Speaker 1: if you get the if you guys flip the Senate,
Speaker 1: if you flip the Senate, you're gonna have total control.
Speaker 1: And he was terrified, like we were going to do something,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's conspiracy theories, right, of course,
Speaker 1: that's all it is. But it was just really weird
Speaker 1: because I haven't I mean, I'm we're all in our bubbles.
Speaker 1: I don't talk to Trump supporters very often. And it
Speaker 1: was like I'm a small little person, and there was
Speaker 1: like true fear like a liberal person. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: It was bizarre. It was really strange. But then I
Speaker 1: felt a little powerful too. Yeah, and then you're like,
Speaker 1: well then you better fucking watch it. But yeah, oh man,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you were all kinds of weird clothes
Speaker 1: by you got no idea you're a woman now. Because
Speaker 1: whenever I draw the conservative message boards and websites and
Speaker 1: think comments sections, just because I always, that's always where
Speaker 1: I get a taste of where they're at, Like when
Speaker 1: they're talking to each other about out their common shared
Speaker 1: fear as much how liberal people do of being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of like revocation of rights for people, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, being deported, not being seen as human because
Speaker 1: of my gender identity or pres into whatever, etcetera. But
Speaker 1: over there on that side it is the FEMA camps
Speaker 1: are about to go up. Wait till they round you
Speaker 1: up and your mandatory estrogens like and I know it's
Speaker 1: like half flippant, but the energy is there to at
Speaker 1: least keep talking about it. So if if you don't legit,
Speaker 1: believe that. I'm not sure what it is, um, but
Speaker 1: they're their news media has done a great job of
Speaker 1: spinning the pursuit of equality into some kind of like
Speaker 1: aggressive act to take your life, because that's how they're
Speaker 1: looking at things. Yeah, if they became vic you become
Speaker 1: a victim, so you can be an abuser, right, that's
Speaker 1: like pretty classic. Yeah, I feel like the dissonances, like
Speaker 1: they at least a portion of them, have to be
Speaker 1: aware of the fact that the things they are claiming
Speaker 1: out loud or the threats are not the thing they're
Speaker 1: actually afraid of. The things they're actually afraid of is
Speaker 1: you know, the things that white supremacists say out loud,
Speaker 1: like losing ground, uh, white genocide or that even that
Speaker 1: this whole thing that they deny till the ends of
Speaker 1: their lives, white supremacy, systemic racism, whatever, is real. Oh
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That's I think there's people
Speaker 1: who are still even guarding themselves from saying that's real. Um.
Speaker 1: And I think there's even that level. Some people are
Speaker 1: like it's real and whatever, like, but I'm not racist.
Speaker 1: That's one form of it, quote unquote. And then there
Speaker 1: are people like, no, no way, because then what so
Speaker 1: I have things because of just who I how I
Speaker 1: know my parents got divorced once. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: that all over Chelsea. You remember you mentioned bubbles and
Speaker 1: I do what. One way that I think this uh
Speaker 1: election is interesting is it's our first since which I
Speaker 1: mean we should have known. But I think definitively proved
Speaker 1: that polls are just you know, they were just a
Speaker 1: thunder vest that we were wearing to make ourselves feel
Speaker 1: better or feel like we had some grasp on on
Speaker 1: what was happening out there. And I think it's especially uh,
Speaker 1: you know, because I think there's a realization that we
Speaker 1: are all in the social media edited bubbles that give
Speaker 1: us distorted versions of reality, like things like polls. I
Speaker 1: think people want something like that, but it's it's just
Speaker 1: interesting because like five eight for most of this election,
Speaker 1: like wasn't even putting up like aggregator and it's just
Speaker 1: I think people have just generally like given up on
Speaker 1: poles because they were so uh fucked in the president
Speaker 1: presidential election that it's just over for that. I think
Speaker 1: it's like our divining you know, like humans want to
Speaker 1: like divine things and like trying to tell the future,
Speaker 1: and that's just it's just like our official version of
Speaker 1: trying to you know, like tarot cards or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the Democrats need to turn out the vote like
Speaker 1: more than they did in the presidential election, So it's
Speaker 1: a it's an uphill battle. First. I mean there's yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like all the numbers that they can pass
Speaker 1: through or like the ones that indicate at the very
Speaker 1: least a lot of energy down there. Don't know how
Speaker 1: it's gonna split it. It's split the right way for
Speaker 1: the right people last time, but this time, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Just like fucking pedal to the metal, y'all.
Speaker 1: You know, it's going to be crazy. It's so it's
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, it's so crazy it's and
Speaker 1: it's tough too, because the other part of it is,
Speaker 1: again we're seeing the same group of activists and organizers
Speaker 1: who were turning people out for the presidential back to
Speaker 1: work for this runoff. And I'm just you know, this
Speaker 1: is going to bring up the conversation again of who
Speaker 1: who knows how people are responding on the ground. Is
Speaker 1: it the Nancy nine thousand dollar refrigerator crew, or is
Speaker 1: it activists who are having the same lived experiences as
Speaker 1: the people that are voting. And I have a feeling,
Speaker 1: if you know, if there's a way to actually you know,
Speaker 1: even fucking split get you know, get at the very least,
Speaker 1: if we can get to fifty fifty. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what we'd have to do anyway to win both seats.
Speaker 1: But to get there. Um, I would have to really
Speaker 1: bring this discussion up again because while there are you know,
Speaker 1: John Assaff likes to say like he's you know, for
Speaker 1: one thing one day and then against it the other
Speaker 1: because he's a politician trying to get elected and not
Speaker 1: really like a person of like pure conviction trying to
Speaker 1: enter office, Like he's a politician. Like what that means
Speaker 1: going forward? And who were actually giving greater influence to
Speaker 1: But I don't know, but we're we're clearly seeing the
Speaker 1: establishment wants to hold onto that ball as long as possible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean. An additional sort of factor or variable that
Speaker 1: entered the equation over the weekend was that the President
Speaker 1: Donald Trump was caught on tape just like straight up
Speaker 1: asking for the Georgia Secretary of State to uh to
Speaker 1: find votes to make him winner in Georgia, winner, chicken
Speaker 1: dinner everything. But would that even make a difference? Would
Speaker 1: Georgia make it a difference? That's what the question that
Speaker 1: occurred to me was, So does he have this already
Speaker 1: somewhere else, like to you need he's what it was?
Speaker 1: It's three oh eight is what Biden has, So he
Speaker 1: would go down to two ninety and I'm sorry you
Speaker 1: you need it. You needed some other ones too, And
Speaker 1: I guess in those days there's gonna be democrats there
Speaker 1: and other like republicans or people with spines who are like,
Speaker 1: oh no, yeah, that that that's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: But he's sewing the idea. And that's the dangerous part, right.
Speaker 1: It's like he's sewing to the people, like if he
Speaker 1: were to somehow get Georgia flip, then it would make everything,
Speaker 1: would start the process. Yeah, yeah, I mean just listening
Speaker 1: because again, here's the thing. It's it's this is another
Speaker 1: one of those examples where we're laughing at the attempted
Speaker 1: coup because we have the most low energy coup on
Speaker 1: the in the history of mankind. Uh, in the form
Speaker 1: of just like suggesting like as he's on, sorry on
Speaker 1: a date, like what you're into, Like just like a
Speaker 1: very creed like what are you saying, dude? This is
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable because you're asking someone to completely commit fraud.
Speaker 1: And I just want to play this clip. Are parts
Speaker 1: of it where I don't know how what psych like
Speaker 1: rhetorical strategy the president of I forget it. Why am
Speaker 1: I even trying to think there's are going to be
Speaker 1: repeated on Monday night, along with others that we're going
Speaker 1: to have by that time, which are much more substantially.
Speaker 1: But and the people of Georgia arranging the people of
Speaker 1: the country, right, And there's nothing wrong with saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, that you recalculated. Well, Mr President, the
Speaker 1: challenge that you have is the data you have is wrong.
Speaker 1: I mean, why dude, that Raethlisberger has been probably waiting
Speaker 1: for that all He's been doing push ups to just
Speaker 1: flap back with that. It sounds like what every bureaucrat
Speaker 1: like would love to say when like the numbers are
Speaker 1: on your side and you're like, I'm sorry, but what's
Speaker 1: talking is straight the challenge you have, Yeah, there's the
Speaker 1: So there's one one problem with that approach is that
Speaker 1: it's not true. The numbers you have are completely wrong. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He's saying, like, I need you to find these eleven
Speaker 1: thousand votes. So look, all I want to do is
Speaker 1: I just want to find eleven thousand, seven eight votes,
Speaker 1: which is one more than we have because we won
Speaker 1: the state that is. Yeah, so he lost by eleven thousand,
Speaker 1: seven nine. So he's just like, give me, give me
Speaker 1: the extra vote. Just give me one, then say you're recalculating,
Speaker 1: that's how I need, and then I will deploy my
Speaker 1: army of goon lawyers who have then spread conspiracy theories
Speaker 1: like whatever fucking lynn Wood is now saying it's like
Speaker 1: some I don't know, there's like some reptile squad. You know.
Speaker 1: This is my this is my ship. I can tell
Speaker 1: you the entire history of the Illuminati story from you know,
Speaker 1: the very beginning of America, from the illuminated who smoke weed?
Speaker 1: Yeah us, yeah, I remember, dude, I read I read
Speaker 1: the Illuminati like, oh ship, Yeah, dude, I was illuminated.
Speaker 1: I'm a former conspiracy theorist, that's how. But back when
Speaker 1: the conspiracy theories were like more on the left, you know,
Speaker 1: like that with like you know, loose change in the
Speaker 1: Zeitgeist to the movies like Geist and all that garment. Well,
Speaker 1: somebody said an anti Semitic thing to me and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, WHOA, what am I into here? And
Speaker 1: then I you know, dove into like the the old
Speaker 1: history of this story and how you know it's been
Speaker 1: it's been sanitized, but still has the same heart, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's just kming and it's really coming back now
Speaker 1: with the Satanic panic, which we yeah, it's it's fantastic
Speaker 1: because yeah, there are I saw many clips of people
Speaker 1: praying for the forces of Christ to ride in on
Speaker 1: a fucking golden Pegasus to like bash Capitol Hills head
Speaker 1: open and make sure that Trump remains God God president.
Speaker 1: And of course you've got to get rid of the
Speaker 1: Satanic pedophiles. That's that's the you can leave those alone.
Speaker 1: But then, what's this photo of your president with said
Speaker 1: satanic Is there any Satanic Satanism? Shout out to Satanists
Speaker 1: who are also challenging, like up in the courts now
Speaker 1: doing their thing to be like okay, well you know,
Speaker 1: if people want to throw around their freedom of religion
Speaker 1: to funk with people, uh many people can play that
Speaker 1: game too. Um anyway, so shout out satan um. I
Speaker 1: remember the first time someone was like, I was like,
Speaker 1: do you even know what Satanism is? Because I said, like,
Speaker 1: this is like maybe in college and like you should
Speaker 1: eat it. And I was like, because Christ is about abstinence, okay,
Speaker 1: whereas like satan is about indulgence to a certain point
Speaker 1: and understand like okay, whoa, whoa, yeah, I was just
Speaker 1: like many things like if you can't respect someone, do
Speaker 1: not have them in your home. I'm like, yo, that's
Speaker 1: just actually good man, like, don't be fake. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's very chill. It's a very children Yeah. No one
Speaker 1: on the reality shows a Satanist. That's what we found
Speaker 1: out because there would be no drama if you follow
Speaker 1: these things. But that makes sense. Yeah, this, Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know the the whole evolution of this pressure
Speaker 1: campaign to thwart the will of the people. It's really something.
Speaker 1: And even like to how we cover elections, like we're
Speaker 1: also looking at this. This isn't getting better because Fox
Speaker 1: and oh A, n and News Matter, they all stay
Speaker 1: on their version of like slightly just keeping that just
Speaker 1: starting a little bit, never fully dumping it out and
Speaker 1: be like, no, you gotta get off that. I mean
Speaker 1: some parts of Fox have, but it's clear that since
Speaker 1: Ray Eatings is their god, uh, then they just have
Speaker 1: to pivot to like feeding as much air time to
Speaker 1: these fantastic nonsense as possible. Yeah. And as we were
Speaker 1: talking about, I guess the strategy would be that he
Speaker 1: has leverage in Georgia because he knows that they want
Speaker 1: to turn out the vote and when when the Senate seats,
Speaker 1: and so I think his strategy is probably you know,
Speaker 1: used that to be like this would energize the people.
Speaker 1: The people are mad if you overturned the presidential election,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have get them energized. Otherwise you have this.
Speaker 1: You know, he's basically holding them hostage. Um. But he's
Speaker 1: I mean it's straight up like the it's as bad
Speaker 1: as the water Gate tapes. Like he's just on the phone,
Speaker 1: uh days before the election, being like find me, you know,
Speaker 1: hook it up, yeah, and then threatening them with legal action.
Speaker 1: There was something like being he tried to call Brad
Speaker 1: like eighteen times or some ship before you picked up damn.
Speaker 1: Like after that, I was like, funk, all right, I
Speaker 1: gotta I have to talk to this fo. He's like
Speaker 1: you got all the recording gear ready? Yeah? Exactly, turned
Speaker 1: me up in my headphone. Okay, just one thing about
Speaker 1: all this. As we talk about this and laugh about it,
Speaker 1: these are crimes. Okay. As much as we like this
Speaker 1: motherfucker is so bad on the phone, um that is
Speaker 1: you know, so many legal experts are like, um, so
Speaker 1: I think we need to are y'all need to impeach
Speaker 1: him again? Are there going to be investigations? These are
Speaker 1: this is like election fraud that he's attempting, and these
Speaker 1: are like things you can't pardon yourself from. Is that true?
Speaker 1: You can't pardon yourself from them? No, Unfortunately, unfortunately you
Speaker 1: cannot do that because these are also charges would be
Speaker 1: state charges to Oh, it's all kinds of bad, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. But that's the other thing is we
Speaker 1: have all these moments where are we like everything, so
Speaker 1: the wheels are completely have come off this thing that
Speaker 1: our you know, our soapbox derby cars fully on fire,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if this we're still have enough
Speaker 1: to have any kind of reckoning about anything. Um, and
Speaker 1: we're just gonna set ourselves up for something worse next
Speaker 1: time if we don't do anything right. One thing that
Speaker 1: you know, as the landscape is changing and you know,
Speaker 1: a Democrat is entering the White House. Uh, the right
Speaker 1: the um conservative media is kind of scrambling to to
Speaker 1: be the next Fox News because Fox News took a
Speaker 1: hit when uh they didn't go along with with Trump's
Speaker 1: attempt to invalidate the election. Uh. And Ben Shapiro has
Speaker 1: his eyes on Hollywood baby stars in his eyes. Look.
Speaker 1: With the help of his cousin Marrow Wilson of Mrs
Speaker 1: doubt Fire fame, they're teaming up. Now I'm joking. I
Speaker 1: know they're I know they're cousins, but they don't talk
Speaker 1: um so the Daily Wire, like he said, they're dipping
Speaker 1: their foot in his uh. I guess it's the co
Speaker 1: founder or partner of the at the Daily Wire, This guy,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Boring, great name. UM have talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: like why like why they're dabbling now, Okay, So I
Speaker 1: just want to just this is what their ten thousand
Speaker 1: foot view is of their new production company called Phobia Films.
Speaker 1: Um it's called I don't know what it's called actually,
Speaker 1: but this is what he said. Right now, we're developing
Speaker 1: three projects internally, two series and a feature. Since announcing
Speaker 1: our move into the space, we've heard from quite a
Speaker 1: few filmmakers with outside the box pitches unlikely to find
Speaker 1: a home in the current political climate. If people continue
Speaker 1: to subscribe, as we believe they will, we'll be acquiring
Speaker 1: more and more projects. If you're fed up with the
Speaker 1: cultural edicts of our country's self appointed moral overlords in
Speaker 1: Hollywood and legacy media, stay tuned. That was sort of
Speaker 1: the Okay, Now I'm curious what kind of pitches that means,
Speaker 1: because these are great youth is ms, outside the box
Speaker 1: pitches unlikely to find a home in the current political climate.
Speaker 1: So you mean problematic dumb ship that no self respecting
Speaker 1: person would touch because it's dangerous and toxic to people
Speaker 1: that would view it. But okay, But like, do you
Speaker 1: guys ever think about what Republicans watch on TV? Because
Speaker 1: there's not like I guess it's like prime Time right,
Speaker 1: because it's like, if you watch Netflix, it's just not
Speaker 1: going to be something I feel like conservative Christian Republicans
Speaker 1: are gonna want to watch. And I settled on probably
Speaker 1: just like a lot of Hallmark. No, they just hate that.
Speaker 1: They just hate that they don't have anything as good
Speaker 1: like I love to show. Yeah, I just have like
Speaker 1: a weird six, says out loud, just like when she's
Speaker 1: Olivia Pope. But yeah, I don't know. I think you're
Speaker 1: onto something with Hallmark though, I mean those we we've
Speaker 1: examined the ideological content of Hallmark movies Beautiful Magic, No
Speaker 1: Magic in the Christmas ones. I've tried, I've tried writing
Speaker 1: Christmas movies. That's the thing I heard. They don't. They don't.
Speaker 1: They don't develop Christmas films that have magic in them.
Speaker 1: Not anymore. I don't think there used to be. There
Speaker 1: used to be, and there was a moment, I think
Speaker 1: because they were getting more of a Christian conservative audience
Speaker 1: and they didn't like the blending of any kind of
Speaker 1: mysticism around the Messiah's birth. Okay, even if it is
Speaker 1: for a high school couple to fall back in love
Speaker 1: when homeboy moves back from the city, that's always that's always,
Speaker 1: did you guys? Okay, did you guys? Cannot remember the
Speaker 1: name of it. But Melissa's Joan Heart just dropped a
Speaker 1: Christmas movie and she is playing the number one podcaster
Speaker 1: in America and it's a Christmas and it was they
Speaker 1: do not know what podcasts are. She did a live
Speaker 1: podcast at one point and all of her friends and
Speaker 1: family were standing outside and someone goes, someone goes up
Speaker 1: your podcasts gone viral. She goes, my podcast gone viral,
Speaker 1: and we're just kind of like, okay, i'd have to
Speaker 1: see this, Yeah you go. I'm sorry to remember the
Speaker 1: name of it. And it's called Oh Wow, is called
Speaker 1: stream It or skip it. No, that's the that's that's article. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's called Dear Christmas. As to your point, J literally
Speaker 1: description as America's number one podcast, and you never really
Speaker 1: understand what he shows about. It's kind of like about
Speaker 1: Christmas relationships. I can't a holiday rom com about a
Speaker 1: podcaster having some will she won't she flirtation with a
Speaker 1: toe truck driver. Yeah, it's like the whole like she
Speaker 1: comes back and like meets a working classman and like,
Speaker 1: you know, he's he's it's just like it's I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a template. It's it. It's the same. Every movie
Speaker 1: is pretty much the same. I prefer the murder ones
Speaker 1: also on Lifetime. Those are yeah, perfect, those are bloody
Speaker 1: test What was the one, uh that we watched on
Speaker 1: Netflix that was basically a Hallmark movie just without like
Speaker 1: with a slightly better cast. It was like something The Runaway,
Speaker 1: The Lost Husband or something where she goes to a farm.
Speaker 1: Oh you watch that one? Yeah, yeah, that's right, watch
Speaker 1: that one. It's that's the only Katie Holmes. No, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know. That was another movie that came out recently,
Speaker 1: but it was. It was in the top ten, and
Speaker 1: you know it's political content is very much the city
Speaker 1: and even the suburbs are evil and living on a
Speaker 1: farm is the only good way. And the male romantic
Speaker 1: lead is a apocalypse prep because if you have neighbors
Speaker 1: that are diverse and different than you, they can point
Speaker 1: out the bullshit that you're on. Right, That's why I
Speaker 1: prefer the farm where it's quiet and I can exist
Speaker 1: without any feedback on how I'm treating people, but not
Speaker 1: to you know, straight too far from Ben Shapiro's exploits.
Speaker 1: I do want to say that this film. They have
Speaker 1: a film that they acquired in Venice. Okay, this is great, Um,
Speaker 1: ready to say it right now. So if you want
Speaker 1: to know what's going on with them, oh boy, because,
Speaker 1: like you said, outside the box, in a political climate
Speaker 1: that is un nice to nasty people. The film they're
Speaker 1: making is called Run, Hide, Fight, And this is from
Speaker 1: Jeremy Boring is it's this film is ultimately a movie
Speaker 1: about courage in the face of evil. This is a
Speaker 1: gut wrenching film that does not offer easy talking points,
Speaker 1: which is why liberal Hollywood executives have refused to distribute it.
Speaker 1: It's about a mass shooting. Okay, that's what this film
Speaker 1: is about. Okay, and this is what one of the
Speaker 1: people who made the film said. We're proud to work
Speaker 1: with The Daily Wires, the exclusive North American distributor of
Speaker 1: the film. The Daily Wires policy of not publishing the
Speaker 1: names of mass shooters made it an ideal partner. That's
Speaker 1: all you're looking for when distributing a film. We should talk. Uh,
Speaker 1: if this film has a political viewpoint, it's that we
Speaker 1: should not make terrorists famous. It's the heroes whose names
Speaker 1: we should remember. He continued. We spent years carefully developing
Speaker 1: this movie in in consultation with law enforcement veterans and
Speaker 1: shooting victims to immerse people into a realistic portrayal of
Speaker 1: what it's like to experience one of these tragedies. So
Speaker 1: it's n r A propaganda sounds like yeah, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like the heroes are the right. The heroes are the
Speaker 1: ones that shoot the bad guy, and that's where we
Speaker 1: should make famous the clap backers. Yeah, the clappers back
Speaker 1: and show how everybody should be packing at school. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just you know, but again, this is the thing
Speaker 1: like when you when they come out there and they're
Speaker 1: saying they're ethos is like outside the box, thinking that
Speaker 1: that just means you need you need some weird stuff
Speaker 1: to reinforce your fucked up worldview of like the cruel
Speaker 1: unusual world where nobody's safe and self reliance is the
Speaker 1: only answer, not anything else. No politician could save us with,
Speaker 1: you know, regulating these things. We must whatever. I don't
Speaker 1: even know what. I couldn't even bring myself to watch
Speaker 1: the trailer, but um, they'll probably be picking up an oscar. Yeah,
Speaker 1: can you matchine film waunchers? All right, let's take another
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back
Speaker 1: and just checking in with a couple of the things
Speaker 1: that went viral. I believe the kids are calling it
Speaker 1: over when while we weren't recording number one podcast we
Speaker 1: had that went viral. Uh, your podcast just went viral.
Speaker 1: It's like the second she stops recording, it just went
Speaker 1: out on the internet. It's viral. And then they kiss,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think maybe that I don't know
Speaker 1: if I finished, but there might have been a hint
Speaker 1: of implication that he was Santa Claus because he was
Speaker 1: a man obsessed with Christmas and his name get ready
Speaker 1: Chris mass no no yeah, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's Chris. Yeah, all right, we're okay, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take I'm like that Escobar narcoes me where
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna look out, sit on a swing set
Speaker 1: by myself bags, just thinking about how on the nose
Speaker 1: that was. It's a terror mass. Oh my name is
Speaker 1: christ Moss. That would have been better. Yeah. So Ilaria Baldwin, Uh,
Speaker 1: let's just play it. Let's just play this clip of
Speaker 1: her talking. Well, we'll start it off just like some
Speaker 1: examples of of her talking in her Spanish accent. Okay,
Speaker 1: so authentic. I didn't just full disclosure I have. I
Speaker 1: did the thing where I removed myself from the Internet
Speaker 1: for two weeks. That's because because you know, fifty weeks
Speaker 1: out of the year, we're mainlining this ship like straight
Speaker 1: through our eyeballs and years and everything. Uh So I
Speaker 1: found out like only a couple of weeks ago or
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago about what had transpired. So
Speaker 1: the gist is that Alec Baldwin's wife, right, yes, is
Speaker 1: actually not Spanish, although she's been out here being like
Speaker 1: I'm from if Pain, yeah okay, and I'm like and
Speaker 1: her real name is Hillary, correct, that's the whole that's
Speaker 1: the whole gag years to go by Hillary. So there's
Speaker 1: some aspects where if you wanted to give her the
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt, you could see where It's like
Speaker 1: she went by Hillary when she lived in Boston, uh,
Speaker 1: which I don't know. It's like you have to be
Speaker 1: pretty flexible to bend over far enough to give her
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. But like there's you know,
Speaker 1: like her explanation for that is, Yeah, when I was
Speaker 1: in America, I went by Hillary, and when I was
Speaker 1: with my Spanish family, I went by Hilaria. And when
Speaker 1: I was in Ghana, I was Kuam. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean, at least I can do that. I'm I'm black,
Speaker 1: but there, yeah, I get it when you go to
Speaker 1: a place like because in Ghana, like the day of
Speaker 1: the week you're born is like your nickname. So I
Speaker 1: was I was Saturday, I'm Quam, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, okay, but I didn't come back on some whatever.
Speaker 1: It's funny when people try and thread the needle, the
Speaker 1: the appropriation needle like this, it's a needle. You can't thread.
Speaker 1: If the needle says appropriation, don't thread it because when
Speaker 1: you do, you're engaging in it. So I guess this
Speaker 1: is a super cut Jack. You found called six times
Speaker 1: her dubious accident has gone wrong on camera. Yes, how's
Speaker 1: married life? Married life is really nice? You know, it
Speaker 1: feels different. It really feels different. But I didn't think
Speaker 1: it was going to be different, but it feels quite different.
Speaker 1: What's the thing that's surprised you the most? Um, I
Speaker 1: think just the fact that it feels different. And we
Speaker 1: would like to say husband and wife a lot. I come, husband, husband,
Speaker 1: where are you? Well? He took me out to Montauk.
Speaker 1: He said that was as close as he could get
Speaker 1: to Spain, to my family and to run because we
Speaker 1: really like round as well. And he got down on
Speaker 1: his knee and then I remember the rest because I
Speaker 1: started crying. Oh. And then we went to Montauk because
Speaker 1: he wanted to say that it was like Ma Jorka
Speaker 1: and to remind me of my family in a pain.
Speaker 1: And I was just so chilled the way he did
Speaker 1: so actually really really thoughtful of him. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: one thing is that it doesn't seem like she's trying
Speaker 1: to hide the fact that she's going back and forth
Speaker 1: between slappy it is sloppy, but let listen to this
Speaker 1: next one. This next one is really this is even
Speaker 1: like yeah, okay, and very feel ingredients. We had tomatoes,
Speaker 1: we have cucumber, cucumbers. It's not easy, and I think,
Speaker 1: how do you say in English? Uh, cucumbers? Come on, peppino, peppino?
Speaker 1: Come on, come on. We got to know these things
Speaker 1: if we're gonna scam. Get the funk a vocal? Right?
Speaker 1: Do we do we keep? Do we go further? The
Speaker 1: rest of it is more people being like and this
Speaker 1: is how she actually talks, which you kind of heard
Speaker 1: at the end of uh, the story of she and
Speaker 1: Alec getting engaged, which is just is any of her?
Speaker 1: Is she a descendant of any person who is a Spaniard?
Speaker 1: So her she's like my my family is lots of
Speaker 1: jack sounded like her now? Or she also she does
Speaker 1: have relatives who lived there, but she claims she's born
Speaker 1: in Spain and she's not from Spain. She she was
Speaker 1: not just born in Boston. Oh my god, I need
Speaker 1: jerk get. I have a like a little bit more
Speaker 1: hesitancy when it comes to like, I don't know because
Speaker 1: because were working podcasting and we've see like women's voices
Speaker 1: get policed so much. I like have like a knee jerk,
Speaker 1: you know, the way that a woman guest or you know,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. We'll get like negative feedback on vocal
Speaker 1: fry and like I speak in nothing but vocal fry.
Speaker 1: But it's like a woman will get called out for
Speaker 1: that like that, I don't know, like that that you're
Speaker 1: trying to make sure you were applying a fucked up
Speaker 1: patriarchical double standard or something to Baldwin. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: just I'm looking at this straight up as accent work.
Speaker 1: People listen to this show. I like accents, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: like ear for accents. I like to pick them apart.
Speaker 1: You know, if I was going to speak like somebody
Speaker 1: from saying, you know, speaking like this in the back
Speaker 1: of my throat more. But because I have that experience
Speaker 1: talking to people like I don't know hearing this and
Speaker 1: that's shitty and that's offensive too. But all that to
Speaker 1: say is looking at it like this, it's just grinds
Speaker 1: my gears that you are completely jettisoning who you are
Speaker 1: as a person in exchange for whatever fuckery this is.
Speaker 1: Because it's not that interesting and all it's proven Elatia.
Speaker 1: Is that you managed to you know, the scheme or
Speaker 1: convinced Alec Baldwin that's you're from Spain. That's not really
Speaker 1: a feat in my eyes. So maybe does he care anymore?
Speaker 1: Like does he know what is Alec? Now? That is?
Speaker 1: That is my question that I think is the most
Speaker 1: interesting question is between them how she spoke to her
Speaker 1: husband because you noticed that the accent was stronger at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the relationship and then it starts to
Speaker 1: fade a little bit and she's not really doing it
Speaker 1: as much anymore. Um if that was something that he
Speaker 1: noticed and like what what was going on in his
Speaker 1: head when that was happening. Um, But yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: I agree as somebody, uh you know, I like you
Speaker 1: would pull the off one thousand times better than her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just like that, like if it did slip and
Speaker 1: Alec Baldwin is just so unaware and not observant at all,
Speaker 1: like where it was like it was there the whole time,
Speaker 1: like a super cut of all these moments like, bro,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna finish your Sam Adams bro alright pal,
Speaker 1: And it's like I said, I'm more if half finished
Speaker 1: bleath party on harder, like I don't know, I don't know, blessed, blessed,
Speaker 1: blessed the attempted scam of Elodia. Yeah, entertained. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just like the audacity though it's just truly, man, I
Speaker 1: guess was it her thing? I'm just I don't know
Speaker 1: if this is a thing of how someone who is
Speaker 1: so unhappy with just being you know, a white American person,
Speaker 1: like yes, that you're going like, fuck, what's the most
Speaker 1: adjacent thing I could be? Believably, I'll dye my hair
Speaker 1: black or dark her than it is. And I'm like
Speaker 1: do like a Catherine Zeta Jones like Penelope Cruz thing,
Speaker 1: And I don't know, I mean part of me, like
Speaker 1: you know, I feel for that because there's like people
Speaker 1: you go to school with who like you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you change your name, you did the whole thing, like
Speaker 1: you you you became this whole other person. And I
Speaker 1: get down on one level, you know, like we all
Speaker 1: we are all evolving as people, but not to the
Speaker 1: point of saying, like, you know, be one thing, like
Speaker 1: you're a straight lace and now you're into like punk
Speaker 1: rock or whatever, versus like I'm white Hillar, I'm white
Speaker 1: Hilary from Boston and now I'm Elatia because I went
Speaker 1: through Spain one and you they're they're definitely people I
Speaker 1: knew who went to went abroad for a year or
Speaker 1: a semester and came back with new personalities and uh,
Speaker 1: you know right, but well, Lindsay Lohan, you guys like
Speaker 1: like that is some that is some deep remember that
Speaker 1: I live once she was trying to save that family. Yes,
Speaker 1: that people of America. What do you want? Like we
Speaker 1: want to leave us alone? And that to say, like
Speaker 1: what is up with like like her personal life, Like
Speaker 1: you're saying like there's gotta be other And I don't
Speaker 1: mean Lindsay Lohan going through it to Laudia or whatever. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, like there's got to be other stuff. Like
Speaker 1: that's a symptom of a bigger problem. So I just wonder,
Speaker 1: like what other like what other how this affects other
Speaker 1: parts of her or what you know, what breeds this
Speaker 1: impetus right to do this just like I just thought
Speaker 1: it was kind of got carried away. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You never just lose yourself in an accent and just
Speaker 1: do it for six years and then do it for
Speaker 1: the entirety of your adult life. Never do that and
Speaker 1: like scam people out of their organs and stuff. Not.
Speaker 1: Come on, there's definitely some subterfuge going on with regards
Speaker 1: to like she claims that she moved to America when
Speaker 1: she was nineteen to go to m y U and
Speaker 1: like she grew up and people are like, dude, I
Speaker 1: want to high school with her? Was Hillary? She was
Speaker 1: just a girl from you know, Massachusetts, from Cambridge. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm I always these stories are just
Speaker 1: so funny to me because I you know, because when
Speaker 1: it all, when it all falls down, you just left
Speaker 1: with this like just going through your like and why
Speaker 1: did you think this was working? Yeah, we're doing a
Speaker 1: next season. I think we're gonna do personality hoaxes. So
Speaker 1: each episode is going to be somebody who like and
Speaker 1: how that's like how single people and stories can change
Speaker 1: the entire culture with bullshit, you know. I mean that
Speaker 1: was the satanic panic was you know, fueled by like
Speaker 1: Michelle remembers in these fake memoirs that that then affected everything.
Speaker 1: I mean, so I'm really excited about that. But this
Speaker 1: is like a mild version of somebody creating like and
Speaker 1: I mean, there are some crazy stories that go like
Speaker 1: way back in time too. You know, what have been
Speaker 1: easier if she just says she was Eliia Baldwin. But
Speaker 1: she's like, no, I grew up here. Yeah, I still,
Speaker 1: I still, you know, I feel spain in my heart.
Speaker 1: That's why I just vibe like this, and that nobody
Speaker 1: would ask anything. Yeah, exactly, that's the truth, would have
Speaker 1: made her free, But she like that. That's how you
Speaker 1: can tell there's more. They're like you were saying, Chelsea,
Speaker 1: that there's like a core of you know, dysfunction of
Speaker 1: something that a rejection of your family because at that
Speaker 1: point you're no longer the person that your parents named
Speaker 1: you to be. So therefore it's a rejection of that,
Speaker 1: is it of them? I mean, would maybe this is
Speaker 1: a whole you know, a line of study, whole demanded,
Speaker 1: whole discipline can be born out of. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: talked about Ariana Grande having grown up as Ariana Grandy
Speaker 1: like that that was how her last name was pronounced. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at least that's Italian. Yeah, and she's just letting other
Speaker 1: people fill in the dots with her darker complexion to
Speaker 1: be like, I don't know maybe I don't say anything
Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna tight rope pocket up here. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: people were also so being dad is more recent. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is when I started wondering, like if we're because
Speaker 1: this dude is a total like prick. He refers to
Speaker 1: himself positively as apocalypse dead, Like that's a dope thing.
Speaker 1: He's like. Then I went into fool the road mode,
Speaker 1: but like, none of the stuff that's doing is yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not like the whole story of the
Speaker 1: road is this dude just sacrificing everything to keep this
Speaker 1: child alive. And this dude is just arbitrarily maybe not
Speaker 1: feeding his daughter for six hours for a Twitter thread
Speaker 1: for a Twitter thread to you know, order to teach
Speaker 1: her some lesson about self reliance. But it was just
Speaker 1: and then he thought it was worth being like, and
Speaker 1: this is dope. This is how parents parenting should work.
Speaker 1: Another thing, when you were writing these things down, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, fuck, well I've been out the loop.
Speaker 1: I don't know who the funk being dad to it all.
Speaker 1: Because I'm curious when you tells you said you grew
Speaker 1: up with a prepper dad, like this was born out
Speaker 1: of he said his daughter wanted baked beans and didn't
Speaker 1: know how to use a can opener, so, as he says,
Speaker 1: he found our teaching moment to have his hungry nine
Speaker 1: year old daughter struggle with a can opener for hours
Speaker 1: in order to like teach some lesson about how to
Speaker 1: fucking to be more self reliant. And then everyone's like, yo,
Speaker 1: this is a terrible look for you, Like this is
Speaker 1: like it's a funny bit in a script, that's a
Speaker 1: throwaway thing, but to make to center your identity as
Speaker 1: a father around this is a misstep. Yeah. Well, and
Speaker 1: also a big question I have is she wants baked beans? Right?
Speaker 1: That was That was my other question That just created
Speaker 1: an image in my mind of his pantry, just being
Speaker 1: like that big beans is like one of the last
Speaker 1: canned goods that you have in your pantry when you're
Speaker 1: just like, you know, I'm not gonna lie by big
Speaker 1: beans on a regular Yeah, I likes bean, But there's
Speaker 1: always a cannaba bean. Yeah, there's always a canna bake
Speaker 1: beans somewhere. Like every household if you look long enough,
Speaker 1: has an old canna bake beans. It's that and then
Speaker 1: mustard in the refrigerator, old mustard in the refrigerator, like
Speaker 1: the last two things that are like a crusty bunch
Speaker 1: of mustard at the top of it. Yeah. So the
Speaker 1: guy the dude deleted his Twitter to deleted his Twitter
Speaker 1: because he had some wild problematic ship in the past
Speaker 1: were like eleven he was using the R word and
Speaker 1: gay as a like derogatory term and just not what
Speaker 1: a shock. Yeah yeah, that guy who made the hungry
Speaker 1: can opener teacher did this. Yeah, um, what is the
Speaker 1: I mean? Also, like you when you're hungry, have you
Speaker 1: dealt with hungry children? Yeah, that's I don't. I'm not
Speaker 1: even a parent, but I've dealt with hungry niece's nephews, kids, kids,
Speaker 1: my friends kids, And I'm like, yo, you don't want
Speaker 1: anything to do with the child getting because Ship, all
Speaker 1: bets are off when you reach that point. I'm like, oh, Ship,
Speaker 1: they're frying out on lack of calories. Uh that you
Speaker 1: somehow like yeah, yeah, yeah, struggle motherfucker, and then will
Speaker 1: be the new protagonists in a Cormick McCarthy book. I'm
Speaker 1: writing in my mind some narcissist behavior. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's yeah, did you get any lessons like that? L
Speaker 1: What was the closest, like, what's a message your prepper
Speaker 1: father at least was like I have anything, just know this. Well,
Speaker 1: it was mora on the spiritual side, like yeah, like
Speaker 1: it was a twelve thing solve was the apocalypse versus
Speaker 1: like a biblical apocalypse, right, it was like the New
Speaker 1: Age version. So it was more like, you know, getting
Speaker 1: prepared spiritually because it was gonna be you know, the
Speaker 1: Age of Aquarius. We're all gonna pass into the New
Speaker 1: Era of Love. But first there's going to be like
Speaker 1: all the volcanoes on Earth they're going to explode at
Speaker 1: the same time and you know, floods and all that ship. So,
Speaker 1: I mean I learned how to like, you know, we'd
Speaker 1: watch like those investigation discovery shows that are really they're
Speaker 1: not invested, you know whatever Discovery channel where they teach
Speaker 1: you how to yeah, like purified water or whatever. And
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, it was not that, but
Speaker 1: it was definitely not like it was. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was definitely like an apocalyptic but he's got to
Speaker 1: get ready, you know. But he wasn't going to make
Speaker 1: me not eat, you know what I mean. But I
Speaker 1: was also older, you know, this was is more recent
Speaker 1: than you as like a late teen. It was always there,
Speaker 1: you know, it was always like here's a bunch of water,
Speaker 1: here was a bunch of canned food. We're ready for X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z. You know. It was same thing with
Speaker 1: Reagan in nuclear war. You know, nuclear working on I'm
Speaker 1: working on it. I get a lot of complaints. That's
Speaker 1: like one of my number one dude, what was it?
Speaker 1: Because he says he's He's like Homer saying nuclear and
Speaker 1: some I'm saying Duke and he's like nuclear. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: And finally, just to let people know, I will only
Speaker 1: be drinking Duncan coffee from now on because they have
Speaker 1: introduced I mean, Starbucks kind of did this with their
Speaker 1: blonde roast, but Donkeys is like straight up making it
Speaker 1: the point that this has extra caffeine, extra charged coffee
Speaker 1: they call it. And so I don't. I only bring
Speaker 1: it because I don't. We always talk about whenever there's
Speaker 1: new caffeine and you're the caffeine goat, uh, where no
Speaker 1: amount of caffeine in your stomach will affect you like
Speaker 1: a goat. Um, we're in this one, Okay, We're talking
Speaker 1: more caffeine for you as someone who's got his eye
Speaker 1: on Caffeine tomb Raider or whatever. That website is Caffeine Observer, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is just as ridiculous. I'm like, no, Miles, cafe Inform,
Speaker 1: Caffeine Informer, Caffeine tumor rater. Uh this caffeine Informer. I
Speaker 1: pulled up what they're they're caffeine mg s are as
Speaker 1: they stand. What are we talking about when we're adding
Speaker 1: another on? So? I mean you go on a small,
Speaker 1: you go from one fifty milligrams to that's the extra
Speaker 1: charged small on extra large, though extra large extra charged,
Speaker 1: which is twenty four fluid ounces normal coffee is three
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty milligrams too too much caffeine for anyone
Speaker 1: sitting extra charged is four hundred and thirty one milligrams.
Speaker 1: That's what are you likening that too? Because as you
Speaker 1: just said, three sixty at twenty four ounces is way
Speaker 1: too much. Yes, you dreamed that whole. If let's say,
Speaker 1: what happens to Jack O'Brien here sixty milligrams, I get nervous,
Speaker 1: I feel bad about myself. Starr. It just like turns
Speaker 1: on itself. You know, it's like too much. That's where
Speaker 1: you crossed the rubicon. Yeah, but but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, some people are. I just feel like when
Speaker 1: you're at that level of like caffeine dependency, it's it
Speaker 1: starts to turn on itself a little bit, or at
Speaker 1: least it's affecting how you behave the rest of the day. Uh,
Speaker 1: at least in my in my experience. But other people,
Speaker 1: you know, other people have bodies that are just like unbreakable.
Speaker 1: They can just yeah, I want to I wanna sip
Speaker 1: that because I it's weird. I'm caffeine sensitive to a point,
Speaker 1: but there are definitely times when I can just out
Speaker 1: of nowhere be like, oh, I'm having a panic attack
Speaker 1: from caffeine. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm gonna do it on
Speaker 1: on an episode, on an upcoming episode, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the extra large to the dome like this, like tapping,
Speaker 1: You're like, what is that? Dripping? It shorts out? And
Speaker 1: that's the last year of UH all right, Chelsea, it
Speaker 1: has been so fun having you as always on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you? You can
Speaker 1: find us our shows American Hysteria and it's on probably
Speaker 1: all podcast apps within reason and uh. You can also
Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at a mayor Hysteria and on
Speaker 1: Instagram at American Hysteria Podcast. And thank you both Jack
Speaker 1: and Miles. This has been so fun. I love coming
Speaker 1: on your shop. It's always so fun. Uh and not
Speaker 1: our show. It's always so fun having you. It's always
Speaker 1: so fun every other time else it is that's fair? Um?
Speaker 1: Where and is there a tweet or some other work
Speaker 1: of social media you've been enjoying? Oh? Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: one tweet here from December thirty one from uh Solomon
Speaker 1: Georgio and it just says if you didn't accomplish anything
Speaker 1: in it's okay because nobody cares. It's kind of nice.
Speaker 1: It's like a good mantra. Really nobody gives a fun Miles,
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? And what's tweet you've been enjoying? Uh?
Speaker 1: You could find me Twitter or Instagram at Miles of
Speaker 1: Gray and yeah, also other podcast for tweet Fiance Talking Fiance.
Speaker 1: It's been a while since I've had to run through
Speaker 1: all this at the end of an episode, so bear
Speaker 1: with me. Okay, tweet that I like from my co
Speaker 1: host on Fiance, Sophia Alexander at the Sophia s f
Speaker 1: I y a tweets being dad, But it's me teaching
Speaker 1: dudes to find the clip. Just land there for six hours. Uh,
Speaker 1: then you and then you're the real being daddy. Uh.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien
Speaker 1: tweet I've been enjoying MMn. Zini tweeted. A shark could
Speaker 1: swin faster than me, but I could probably run faster
Speaker 1: than a shark. So in a triathlon, it would all
Speaker 1: come down to who is the better cyclist. That's so
Speaker 1: nice ship. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
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Speaker 1: or we post our episodes and our footnote. We we
Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in
Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as the song we ride out
Speaker 1: on miles. What are we writing into this new year?
Speaker 1: Upon oh Man? So on January or December thirty one,
Speaker 1: we found out that M F. Doom passed away back
Speaker 1: in October. I'm I think anybody who you know likes
Speaker 1: hip hop has intersected with his work at some point
Speaker 1: or another. I fucking love M F. Doom. I fuck
Speaker 1: like all this ship that was coming like when he
Speaker 1: was really putting shut out like Mad Villainy and the
Speaker 1: King Guiterarus all this stuff. This was coming out when
Speaker 1: I was like in high school going into college, and
Speaker 1: you're very much like, you know, that's like a very
Speaker 1: formative period for your for your music listening. Oh. Hearing
Speaker 1: that like really kind of turned me onto getting off
Speaker 1: with like bling bling rap, which I was very much
Speaker 1: into going into the century for all the younger is
Speaker 1: out there, um and like going in and just like
Speaker 1: you know, getting into this really lyrical hip hop. He
Speaker 1: wasn't one of the just greatest rhyme speakers, sayers, I'll
Speaker 1: fucking love all of his work. Um. So this is
Speaker 1: a track with him and another person who was dear
Speaker 1: to my heart, Ja Dilla. Uh. It's called Gazillion Ear
Speaker 1: uh and it's from that two thousand nine album Born
Speaker 1: Like This. But yeah, this is just the do get
Speaker 1: into m F. Doom. It's one of those people where
Speaker 1: you'll probably if you just heard about it. It's because
Speaker 1: even artists who you liked, who you didn't necessarily associate
Speaker 1: with hip hop were like, man, m F. Doom, that's
Speaker 1: fucking heavy. Um and and and then pretty much anyone
Speaker 1: who likes a rapper paid their respects because yeah, you
Speaker 1: couldn't be into this and not fuck with metal fingers.
Speaker 1: So yeah, shout out to you recipees and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: get into the music getting and also, you know what,
Speaker 1: tell somebody you love him today. You never know, because
Speaker 1: you never know. Just tell somebody. Really, it seems weird
Speaker 1: to do, but just let people know, let him know.
Speaker 1: That's a good thing to do, all right. Well. The
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