Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one six, episode
Speaker 1: one of T Daily's Night Geast, the first and only
Speaker 1: episode of season one sixty five. So we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to pack a lot. And uh, this is a production
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we
Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And I
Speaker 1: want to say up top, fuck Black Rifle Coffee. The
Speaker 1: Black Rifle Coffee company advertised on our show, Uh, not
Speaker 1: voiced by us, but somehow found its way onto our show.
Speaker 1: So this is where we tell you how we feel
Speaker 1: about Black Rifle Coffee. Uh, they're a terrible company. You should,
Speaker 1: by no means patronize. Uh, fuck Black Rifle Coffee. It's Monday, December,
Speaker 1: suck shop. It's Monday December. There are thirty days until January.
Speaker 1: There were zero new COVID cases in New Zealand on Thursday,
Speaker 1: zero deaths. Since late September, there were thirteen new cases
Speaker 1: in all of Australia. So I had this is maya culpa.
Speaker 1: I had been saying, citing the overall Australian number as
Speaker 1: just for Victoria. I think Victoria is just all zeros
Speaker 1: across the board, all the way down. These days. But
Speaker 1: the people over there zeros, all bunch of zeros. UH.
Speaker 1: Australia only at thirteen now continue to be zero deaths
Speaker 1: in the month of December, and in the US there
Speaker 1: were two hundred and thirty eight thousand new cases three thousand,
Speaker 1: two D three deaths UH. Matt K gave me some comparisons.
Speaker 1: D Day had two thousand, five hundred deaths UM Pearl
Speaker 1: Harbor two thousand, four hundred UH, and the reaction to
Speaker 1: that was pretty Yeah, we we paid quite a bit
Speaker 1: of attention when when that happened, when those two things happen, UM,
Speaker 1: and just globally, we have seventeen million cases right now
Speaker 1: in the US UH. India is the next most with
Speaker 1: nine million, Brazil with seven million. UH. We have nowhere
Speaker 1: near as many people as India. We have a fourth
Speaker 1: as many people as India. China is not even in
Speaker 1: the top test. So just trying to keep things in
Speaker 1: perspective about how spectacularly our leadership fucked this thing right up.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien, a k A Podna elevator
Speaker 1: spitting hot takes while I'm going down podon and elevator
Speaker 1: chugging a due for I hit the ground. That is
Speaker 1: courtesy of the Roman King, and also a make good
Speaker 1: for all the Aerosmith fans who are mad that I
Speaker 1: didn't know the that back in the Saddle song by them,
Speaker 1: people like what, uh yeah, and you've never heard Stairway either,
Speaker 1: I guess um, but no, just what's that not? Not
Speaker 1: a not a big deep cut Serosmith fan, or even
Speaker 1: shallow cuts probably. I'm thrilled to be joined as always
Speaker 1: by my co host, Mr Miles grond Well. The weather
Speaker 1: outside delightful, but the COVID rates are frightful. And since
Speaker 1: we've no place to go, let us talk, let us talk,
Speaker 1: let us toe, and we can keep going on there.
Speaker 1: Johnny Davis on the disaccord with it just a just
Speaker 1: a wonderful holiday inspired decade to take us on into
Speaker 1: this mini break or whatever I mean. We don't take
Speaker 1: breaks here at the Loves. The added syllable and discord
Speaker 1: you turned it into disaccord um, a disaccord that is cannon.
Speaker 1: Uh Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our
Speaker 1: third seat by the brilliant and talented Alison Roses. Hello.
Speaker 1: I always forget there is singing that happens on this
Speaker 1: podcast I don't know if the guests normally do, but
Speaker 1: just called suppressed memories the Aerosmith theme pod Pod pod
Speaker 1: Pod and you're living room pod pod pod and living
Speaker 1: room again at a loss. But I'm sure, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that's going to get harassed by Aerosmith Twitter again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a question, Um, what did Black Rifle co
Speaker 1: Coffee do? They advertise there's an ad, but the the
Speaker 1: what started is there like this right wing coffee company
Speaker 1: where they're like patriots drink this. It's like they like
Speaker 1: literally called it like tactical caffeineation for like operators and
Speaker 1: that civilians. It's like this hyped up, hyper militaristic right
Speaker 1: wing fucking take. But they got into some ship when
Speaker 1: Kyle Rittenhouse, the kid who shot the allegedly shot those people,
Speaker 1: Ricky Schroeder and tad to his house right that photo.
Speaker 1: In that photo with Ricky Schroeder, he's wearing a Black
Speaker 1: Rifle Coffee shirt. And but then it got weird because
Speaker 1: then the owner of the company's like, oh, we're not
Speaker 1: we're actually not aligned with that kid, and we're not
Speaker 1: trying to bank we're not we don't like we don't
Speaker 1: support him or anything. And it's a tragedy. And then
Speaker 1: right wing Twitter came for Black Rifle Company coffee because
Speaker 1: they weren't racist enough either way. When you start putting,
Speaker 1: when you start putting on your like I think one
Speaker 1: of them is called like blue Lives Matter car Thin
Speaker 1: Blue Line coffee. It's just like utter trash. It's sucking,
Speaker 1: the antithesis of everything we stand for. But this is
Speaker 1: what happens when you have a huge advertising operation that
Speaker 1: will dynamically insert things and piece of the t d
Speaker 1: Z pie. Yeah exactly, And little did they know the
Speaker 1: listeners are already on a hair trigger and no pun
Speaker 1: intended there, but like to hear something like that and
Speaker 1: be like, oh that, we're pretty trying to be as
Speaker 1: responsible as possible. I think they got their money work.
Speaker 1: You mention them a number of times now. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we said how when I drank the coffee, it gave
Speaker 1: me instant diary. Yeah, and then all my all, my all,
Speaker 1: my grass died in my arm. Yeah we should we
Speaker 1: should mention it also tastes like ship. Not only is
Speaker 1: there a politics bad, it tastes terrible and uh, the
Speaker 1: they don't even have real caffeine. It's it's barely caffeine.
Speaker 1: It's all fake Cain when he said it, I was
Speaker 1: taking a sip of coffee, not that brand. But I
Speaker 1: wanted to do a spit take if this, if there
Speaker 1: was video, I would have that talking to the King
Speaker 1: of spit takes over here. That would You're just holding
Speaker 1: up a black coffee mug, as we said, Hey, Alison,
Speaker 1: why do you keep covering up your T shirt chilly
Speaker 1: in here? Yea covering up with a black rifle coffee.
Speaker 1: You're like, gosh shit, Um, it's a Confederate flag. All right? Wait, wait, Alison,
Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a better, a
Speaker 1: better in a moment. We are better, uh to our
Speaker 1: words today, We're gonna get to know you a little
Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our
Speaker 1: listeners just a few of the things we're talking about. Guys.
Speaker 1: It's the last episode, last regular episode of the year.
Speaker 1: We made it. We are going to be talking about
Speaker 1: things that happened over the past three days. Trump appointees
Speaker 1: describing the utter fucking up of the COVID response. Um,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Dan Crenshaw smearing veterans. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the spike and overdose deaths, uh, Mission impossible,
Speaker 1: set shutting down, all just equally bad news. And then
Speaker 1: die Hard, the director of die Hard, John McTiernan, came
Speaker 1: out with a video that talked about like hidden social
Speaker 1: justice message and die Hard and I want to look
Speaker 1: at that because made me reappreciate die Hard for the
Speaker 1: first time in a little while. All of that plenty more,
Speaker 1: But first, Alison, we like to ask our guest what
Speaker 1: is something premier search history. I searched what shape is
Speaker 1: giraffe poop? And the reason this came up in addition
Speaker 1: to it just being a passion of mine on my podcast.
Speaker 1: So my podcast comes up twice a week Monday's a
Speaker 1: one on one Thursday as a panel show. And on
Speaker 1: the most recent panel show, one of my guest, Jackie Johnson,
Speaker 1: was talking about having just moved into a house that
Speaker 1: has a yard, and I was asking does her dog
Speaker 1: love the yard? And she thought he would, but turns
Speaker 1: out he just goes out there and eats Sorry, she
Speaker 1: the dog is a sheet. She just goes out there
Speaker 1: and eats squirrel. Shoot, yes we're familiar, Yes we know,
Speaker 1: we're familiar with Jackie's dog and these parts. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: apparently all Chooch does in the yard is eat squirrel poop.
Speaker 1: And then I was saying, I don't think I could
Speaker 1: even identify squirrel poop in a poop line up, And
Speaker 1: so then we were going around and you know, tackling
Speaker 1: the important issue of whether we could identify squirrel poop,
Speaker 1: and then I brought up I believe giraffe poop is
Speaker 1: cube shaped. And I don't know why I know this,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's because my son is very
Speaker 1: into animals and has all these different zoo books and
Speaker 1: there's like a book called what did they do with
Speaker 1: all that poop? No? What do they do with all
Speaker 1: that poop? Um? I just first, yeah, what do they
Speaker 1: dupe with all that poop? Um? And I just feel
Speaker 1: like I have seen square giraffe poop. And then my producer,
Speaker 1: whom I love, was real slow on the Google, so
Speaker 1: I had to google it. Uh, And anyway, it's sort
Speaker 1: of inconclusive. It's we decided it's cube shaped. I believe
Speaker 1: that maybe that's what I'm thinking of. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: on a very specific podcast episode of Creature Feature talking
Speaker 1: about animal ship, and I remember that I walked to
Speaker 1: it like, wait, hold on, there's cube shaped ship and
Speaker 1: it's wombats. I know, yeah, I know, wombats definitely have
Speaker 1: cube shaped ship. But I think, shout out to all
Speaker 1: the cube shitters out there, and yeah, I don't anyone
Speaker 1: out That's what I was thinking of then, because when
Speaker 1: I finally found a picture of giraffe poop, it was
Speaker 1: more um like we just we described it as cushion
Speaker 1: cut if you know different diamond shapes. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: ship look like yeah, apparently it looks a lot like
Speaker 1: rabbit poop. You think that's what I would have googled.
Speaker 1: But which, by the way, rabbit poop is tricks shaped
Speaker 1: and they made a rabbit the why did they do that?
Speaker 1: Or did they do it on purpose? Right? To be
Speaker 1: for kids? Kids with me? Eat my ship pretty pretty good,
Speaker 1: dunk by the tricks rabbit speaking. I'm just how you
Speaker 1: would know, Like you know, I'm I've I've lived in
Speaker 1: areas where squirrels are frolicking around, and I've had pets,
Speaker 1: and I've never been able to be like, oh my
Speaker 1: dog does is eat squirrel ship? And That's when I'm
Speaker 1: really confused, Like how are you witnessing that I've never
Speaker 1: even been like, oh, there we go, I just stepped
Speaker 1: to more squirrel chis you should have been on this episode.
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying. Um that so what I
Speaker 1: was saying, how do you know? How do you know
Speaker 1: it's not rabbit poop? And are you like, are you
Speaker 1: seeing chow swallow it? Are you just seeing her play
Speaker 1: with it? What's going on? I needed like eight episode
Speaker 1: podcast series looking into this true crime of chooch eating
Speaker 1: squirrel poop. I'm glad we have another fellow truth seeker
Speaker 1: on the show today because I'm not accepting this description
Speaker 1: from Jackie, and when she is on this show again,
Speaker 1: I will press her for more answer. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Let's take this across all the podcasts in America. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: I always assume the circular shape was that way because
Speaker 1: it has the smallest like surface area to volume ratio,
Speaker 1: Like that it was like covering it up so it
Speaker 1: wouldn't smell as much, so like predators couldn't hunt them.
Speaker 1: But I guess, oh my god, we got a scientist
Speaker 1: on our hands. Well I I guess that's not even
Speaker 1: remotely true. I don't I might actually have the worst
Speaker 1: volume to surface area ratio. I don't know. I just
Speaker 1: googled it and it's like the some other shape that
Speaker 1: I can't even pronounce. The ico head icosahedron has the
Speaker 1: lowest surface area to volume ratio. So what does it
Speaker 1: look like it looks I don't know icosahedron, co sahedron,
Speaker 1: How mean sides is that? But I assume because like
Speaker 1: spherical ice cubes, isn't that the whole idea behind them
Speaker 1: is that they don't melt as much because they have
Speaker 1: lower surface area. Um, I just thought it was a
Speaker 1: cool thing from interest board, and I just thought it
Speaker 1: was a way to sell more ice cube trays, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it could be all those So, I mean it makes
Speaker 1: sense because I feel like I got big in Japan
Speaker 1: when like some bartenders like hand cutting spheres of ice
Speaker 1: and like it's the only way to like not water
Speaker 1: down your scotch. But okay, the sphere is the has
Speaker 1: the best ratio, I think, and then I co shedron
Speaker 1: is the one with the second best twenty sides because
Speaker 1: it does anyways, this has been so you mean a
Speaker 1: d N D die you would, right? Exactly? How come
Speaker 1: more animals aren't shipping out d N D die but
Speaker 1: is there actually any animal that does that? There needs
Speaker 1: to be I mean I do when I've had a
Speaker 1: very specific combination of fiber and uh, cheetos. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just do I forgot you're very familiar with Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: we got to know each other. Yeah, that's how that's.
Speaker 1: People are like, why do you guys do it? You know,
Speaker 1: Nicky Glazer was on and but around like the chemistry.
Speaker 1: I'm like, look, I know we know what each other's
Speaker 1: ships look like. That's how we keep it tight on
Speaker 1: this show. It's the part of the pit the dock.
Speaker 1: Every day is doc that we only share with each other,
Speaker 1: is just a history of about movements and quiet. I'm normal, alright.
Speaker 1: And I think you made a mistake because when I
Speaker 1: got a link to the document, there were pictures at
Speaker 1: the beginning, and I just didn't know what that was about. Well,
Speaker 1: consider that you've entered the circle of trust. Thank you
Speaker 1: very much. I do remember a good friend of years ago,
Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, was in his bathroom and
Speaker 1: through the door he yelled, I wish you were a
Speaker 1: guy so that I could invite you in here to
Speaker 1: take a look at this. And that's like one of
Speaker 1: those weird things that I think about so frequently? Is
Speaker 1: that a thing that guys do often? So I have
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I have to tell a really
Speaker 1: gross story right now. This is a very sca scutological
Speaker 1: beginning to this episode. But so my dad, one of eight,
Speaker 1: grew up very you know whatever. You know that they
Speaker 1: were very check to check. It was like in a
Speaker 1: very small apartment in inner city Philadelphia, and him and
Speaker 1: his brother had a competition where they would save giant
Speaker 1: shits in a in a shoebox and like and show
Speaker 1: it to each other. That's amazing, And I think it
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, look how much I full like like uh,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I guess it's a thing with more than
Speaker 1: just like that. I was so desperate to have like
Speaker 1: that affirmed that that was that they weren't the only
Speaker 1: humans who did that. That the second you talked about
Speaker 1: one human doing that, I was like, okay, I gotta
Speaker 1: let this off my check up the game. I wish
Speaker 1: you could talk about it. You're like, okay, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say. Jack. I want to um,
Speaker 1: I want you to feel seen and heard. But to me,
Speaker 1: different between my friend wanted me to come into the
Speaker 1: bathroom and look at his toilet present versus a shoebox,
Speaker 1: like once you take it out of water, if that's
Speaker 1: a whole different animal, I agree, I don't. I can
Speaker 1: only imagine how bad it smelled and how how many questions.
Speaker 1: I don't know that you know the answer, but these
Speaker 1: are things that you could find out. Um, one shoebox.
Speaker 1: Did they have multiple shoeboxes? And how are they even
Speaker 1: getting it out of the toilet? Were they using like
Speaker 1: the kind of netcork like get a goldfish out of clean?
Speaker 1: Do you clean it the clean the box every time?
Speaker 1: Is it a new box? The fact that I work
Speaker 1: didn't ask more follow up questions is I don't know
Speaker 1: what's wrong with me that I wasn't like, wait, weren't ready.
Speaker 1: But I think it was like so young that it
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, okay, that's a that sounds like
Speaker 1: Uncle Berry the Mad out Treatment, how mad I would
Speaker 1: open it at out of her show, and being like
Speaker 1: a shoe box a simple thing, what's really a shoe
Speaker 1: is really contained? And then you're like, wait, this is
Speaker 1: about some people shopting in a box. But the I
Speaker 1: was gonna say before Jack completely scorched the earth with
Speaker 1: his anecdote, I do have a there is a I
Speaker 1: know somebody. Look, I'm not gonna lie. Yes, I have
Speaker 1: a text threat where we send ship pictures. Do you
Speaker 1: really I don't send them. I don't send him. My
Speaker 1: one friend does it as a bit, and he always
Speaker 1: acts he the bid is always he treats it like
Speaker 1: an art composition where he says what his motivation was
Speaker 1: and what like, what the process was, and then I
Speaker 1: always respond with a scathing art critique of the actual
Speaker 1: the dumpy took. It's really stupid. I don't even know
Speaker 1: I just said that out loud. But that's some insight
Speaker 1: into what do you have a bunch of I think
Speaker 1: we have a bunch of TDZ ads that are gonna
Speaker 1: run on the radio during Christmas break, and so there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a bunch of new people coming to the show.
Speaker 1: And this is gonna be the most recent full episode.
Speaker 1: They hear us opening up with twenty minutes on people
Speaker 1: on us just sharing pictures of poop uh and and
Speaker 1: but this is America, shared consciences, And I defy a
Speaker 1: listener to say they don't know anything about this or
Speaker 1: not their lives hasn't intersected with pooh talk culture. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's around. And it's funny because I was a friend
Speaker 1: of mine who has a really young son who's like
Speaker 1: three or four, had like a play date and one
Speaker 1: of the like, her son's potty trained, but her friend's
Speaker 1: son isn't. So when he went to use like the bathroom,
Speaker 1: like his friend came to because he's like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: not potty trained, and they both just watched him take
Speaker 1: a dump, like up close, like they're both like he
Speaker 1: was pooping, and his friend was like, Okay, okay, let's
Speaker 1: see what you're doing here. Okay, that's cool. And I
Speaker 1: was like, you know what this is just this is
Speaker 1: since the times of the ancients, you know, this is
Speaker 1: just who we are. How old are your kids, Um,
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna be four and two in February. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're around the same spot. And yeah, that's a whole thing.
Speaker 1: The kids like don't want to be lonely when it's happening,
Speaker 1: you know, they feel like they're missing out, just like
Speaker 1: shut them out in a room by themselves. So like
Speaker 1: that's that's the whole thing you have to get your
Speaker 1: mind around. And I do love some people just the
Speaker 1: un potty train kid breaking it down like game tape
Speaker 1: being like oh damn wow, or the one who is
Speaker 1: probably training's like, see, this is what you gotta do,
Speaker 1: and that's that's the difference. Man. You gotta start doing
Speaker 1: that rather than in your pants man, and you will
Speaker 1: get a treat man. Yeah, there's a definite fascination with it.
Speaker 1: My son has come in and said to me, Mommy,
Speaker 1: I want to watch you use this. Like I pointed
Speaker 1: to the toilets, the thing for them. Yeah, it's very
Speaker 1: interesting because like those are like sort of like benchmarks
Speaker 1: of like growth, you know what I mean. Like now
Speaker 1: I'm a toilet user, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: now I'm like and I remember, and this probably goes
Speaker 1: I probably have said this before. I remember when I
Speaker 1: was six years old, my dad got a cam quarter,
Speaker 1: like you know, basically got a cam quarter and the
Speaker 1: first thing that shot on it is me filming my
Speaker 1: own ship. That Christmas morning, I took the camera and
Speaker 1: I'm zooming as a slow push in on a little
Speaker 1: six year old turn And I like, that's just like
Speaker 1: family lure. And now you're a critic on that thread.
Speaker 1: I'm a critic. He went from filmcro to critic. Exactly. Alright, guys,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll get come back. Alice.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about underrated and over it and we're back.
Speaker 1: Uh And Alice, we like to ask our guests, what
Speaker 1: is something you think is underrated. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is like underrated for everyone, but for me, I
Speaker 1: had underrated the value lately of like what I would
Speaker 1: call comfort food TV because my husband and I have
Speaker 1: been watching all these Prestige TV shows, which they're good
Speaker 1: and I enjoyed them. However, we recently got sucked back
Speaker 1: into Vanderpump Rules. I was very into Vanderpump Rules a
Speaker 1: few years ago. Um, I couldn't stop talking about it,
Speaker 1: and somehow I made every podcast appearance I was on
Speaker 1: about it, which I feel like, I'm no now I'm
Speaker 1: doing it about poop um. But and then I just
Speaker 1: sort of fell off and I didn't keep up with it.
Speaker 1: And then we were watching Real Housewives of Salt Lake
Speaker 1: City and I was sort of getting back into the
Speaker 1: Bravo world, and we decided, let's just watch the most
Speaker 1: recent episode of Vanderpump Rules. Even though I we we
Speaker 1: weren't caught up and it is like hanging out with
Speaker 1: old friends. It's so pathetic how comforted we feel the
Speaker 1: fact that we can just dive in. We don't need
Speaker 1: you know, we already know what they're like. Um, and
Speaker 1: like every night now we watch multiple episodes. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I feel good now. I don't feel bad
Speaker 1: about it though. It's like exactly what I needed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no need to feel bad. It's good, it's great. I
Speaker 1: wish I had done it sooner because I've been sort
Speaker 1: of like looking for something to be excited about TV wise,
Speaker 1: and now I'm excited about catching up with my friends
Speaker 1: on vander Pump every night. Yeah, that's like me and
Speaker 1: the ladies of Salt Lake City. I just can't I
Speaker 1: just can't believe. I can't believe what I'm seeing every week.
Speaker 1: Who's your favorite lady and who's your least favorite? Because
Speaker 1: I have I ranked them right? Mary, I hate. I
Speaker 1: can't stand Mary herself. Loathing is just despicable. That whole
Speaker 1: thing of like when I see black people at a
Speaker 1: convenience store, I'll go to another CONVENI I'm like, your yes,
Speaker 1: what are you saying this in front of a group
Speaker 1: of white women like it was like this performative self
Speaker 1: hatred that really rubbed me the wrong way. And then
Speaker 1: Anna started sending me Subreddit posts about how she's a
Speaker 1: full on scammer who says she's a god and like
Speaker 1: forces all the parishioners at her churches to give her
Speaker 1: all this money. H so more than like who I like,
Speaker 1: I just know Mary rubs me the absolute wrong way.
Speaker 1: But I will watch because that's part of the thing
Speaker 1: you took aut something like I need something to get angry.
Speaker 1: I know that's enjoying it. She's the one who is
Speaker 1: married to her grandfather, her step grandfather, her step grandfather,
Speaker 1: and also accused someone of smelling like hospital. Yes, and
Speaker 1: it just the syntax of that bothers me. Is that
Speaker 1: how you say it, like you smell like hospital, smell
Speaker 1: like a hospital, or yeah, it's very brit it's like
Speaker 1: how babies talk. Well. The British also referred to it
Speaker 1: as hospital hospital or oh you smell like sick, right do? I? Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's there. I don't know, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know this thing. It's a it's a mess and a half.
Speaker 1: But it's also interesting because like these people are. There's
Speaker 1: also this layer on top of like vapid house Real
Speaker 1: Housewives culture that's president all the shows. Then you like
Speaker 1: the you know LDS Mormon church layer on top of
Speaker 1: it that's like pushing and pulling the cast members in
Speaker 1: certain directions. So it's all vers to take. I did.
Speaker 1: What I didn't realize is that they're all like there
Speaker 1: are according to the show, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: Mormons who drink, Like I've only known in real life.
Speaker 1: I've only known Mormons who don't, who are like pretty
Speaker 1: you know, as far as I can tell, devout and
Speaker 1: follow the rules, and like, I've never known a Mormon
Speaker 1: in real life who drinks. But the Jack Mormon community,
Speaker 1: that's what they're called Jack Mormons. But is that like
Speaker 1: X Mormon or does that just means grew up Mormon
Speaker 1: Jack Mormon. Yeah, exactly, new Jack Mormon. It's like Jack.
Speaker 1: It might not be called that anymore, but like when
Speaker 1: I lived in Dayton, a bunch of our best friends
Speaker 1: were Mormon, and that was that was the thing back
Speaker 1: in the nineties that they referred to it as. I've
Speaker 1: also heard of a nomo momo, which is someone who's
Speaker 1: no longer a Mormon, Momo, no more Mormon? Oh got it?
Speaker 1: Not super fans of the Dodgers picture Hideo Nomo. But
Speaker 1: also that U, I mean that wind up it was
Speaker 1: something else. That diagram is an exact circle. I'm so
Speaker 1: tired of that, mean, Alison, what is something you think
Speaker 1: is overrated? Overrated? And this is controversial even it's controversial
Speaker 1: even for me to say it, But of late I
Speaker 1: have felt that sleeping in is a little bit overrated.
Speaker 1: Because I have children, I do not get to sleep
Speaker 1: in very much. However, are my mother in law is
Speaker 1: here and she wakes up early and she loves to
Speaker 1: take care of the kids, or we tell ourselves that.
Speaker 1: So my husband and I have been sleeping in this
Speaker 1: week like like till like there's days where I slept
Speaker 1: into like past eleven. I mean it is, and I
Speaker 1: wake up like get more coming to than waking up alone.
Speaker 1: Even though it feels like, oh I needed that, like
Speaker 1: I need have been needing that for the last five years.
Speaker 1: I also for the rest of the day feel out
Speaker 1: of it and your responsible and gross. It's like I
Speaker 1: can't shake off the gross feeling of I woke up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe kind to yourself, Alison, be kinder today. I have
Speaker 1: that same thing like where I feel like if I
Speaker 1: wake up too later, if I get too much sleep,
Speaker 1: I'm like gruggy the next day. And also like I
Speaker 1: and I can't tell if it's just self like me
Speaker 1: being a where that I got a lot of sleep
Speaker 1: and feeling bad that it also happens with showering. Like
Speaker 1: I have this like kind of loose theory that if
Speaker 1: I don't shower, actually physical like sleep left over all
Speaker 1: my body because like I'm always more tired if I
Speaker 1: don't shower. And I'm like scientist, I can't just be
Speaker 1: like all mental, but I think it is. I think
Speaker 1: it's all mental. I'm just glad we're doing this on
Speaker 1: Zoom because it was it was getting ripe in the studio.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I need I need to shower every
Speaker 1: morning if I want to be like fully awake. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel I get like that whenever I felt bad
Speaker 1: about sleeping in it's because it's so late. I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I only have like a few hours of
Speaker 1: like a day left before like I'm about to shift
Speaker 1: my whole sleep cycle into the night, where I'm like, well, see,
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is because when I wake
Speaker 1: up super late, I'm aware that I needed sleep, and
Speaker 1: the way, the like better way to get it would
Speaker 1: have been to go to bed early instead of staying
Speaker 1: up till two watching vander Pump self care. No matter
Speaker 1: how you got it's good. I'm not. I'm not knocking it,
Speaker 1: and in no way do I want to do I
Speaker 1: want to give it up. I'm just saying I have
Speaker 1: found that it's like a little overrated for me personally,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I can't give it up. I would.
Speaker 1: I just pray for the ability to sleep like I
Speaker 1: did when I was like in puberty or like going
Speaker 1: through puberty or high school, like when my body was
Speaker 1: like this is when you're growing and you will just
Speaker 1: lie dormant and like I never to this day, even
Speaker 1: like with a terrible hangover something, have slept like as
Speaker 1: solidly for such a long time than I did back then.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, so do you not sleep well now? Not?
Speaker 1: I sleep well now, but like even I wake up
Speaker 1: pretty normally, like my rhythms are like I'm up even
Speaker 1: if I sleep late, like I'm just up and I
Speaker 1: can't do the thing where I'm like, well, I want
Speaker 1: to sleep later, I'm really tired. Maybe I get a
Speaker 1: couple of hours. Just can't. It's just that adult ship,
Speaker 1: adult body. I hear that. Well, speaking of adult ship,
Speaker 1: let's let's get back to poop. So, my theory on
Speaker 1: the spherical poop as I've been thinking about it, skittish.
Speaker 1: All the animals that has spherical poop are skittish, like
Speaker 1: you got your DearS, your rabbits, your squirrels. So I
Speaker 1: think it really there is something to that poop scientists
Speaker 1: get at me. You are courage shapes like a fist
Speaker 1: or sword. Well, like humans, there's no design to it
Speaker 1: because we're not scary. Same with dogs right there, they're
Speaker 1: at home girl who used to do rabbit poops? I
Speaker 1: mean we've all been. I've been a home girl who's
Speaker 1: done rabbits. Yeah, I've I've been that home girl as well.
Speaker 1: But it's not but it's not like biologically decreed that
Speaker 1: we do that where now right? Sure? Log it up,
Speaker 1: Kenny Loggins's interesting to any what other animals have such
Speaker 1: wide range of poop shapes? Yeah, I think it's dogs
Speaker 1: us and dogs have evolved to be part of our
Speaker 1: like kind of little ecosystems. So I need to see
Speaker 1: some coyotes ship there. Actually they're copying our style, our ships.
Speaker 1: Bear shit, dog, I'm like, go get your own swag, bro.
Speaker 1: I feel like bear shit is similarly amorphous. So it's
Speaker 1: it's like the stuff that needs to be scared needs
Speaker 1: to keep it in tight little spheres so that like
Speaker 1: the there's little surface area, so the scent isn't going
Speaker 1: out there so that they can be tracked, is my
Speaker 1: my theory. Alright, other poops don't know. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about these Trump apointees who came out towards
Speaker 1: the end of last week and just you know, said
Speaker 1: that basically it had been a complete utter fucking up
Speaker 1: of the COVID response while they were working in the
Speaker 1: c d C. They specifically said that they were being
Speaker 1: encouraged by members of the Trump administration to pursue herd immunity,
Speaker 1: which is basically like let everybody get it except the
Speaker 1: people who it is actively killing, and was completely inadvisable
Speaker 1: and just a confusing of the approach that has left
Speaker 1: us in the condition we're in where the US and
Speaker 1: Brazil are far and away the most fucked up examples
Speaker 1: of how how this can be exacerbated right now. And
Speaker 1: I read that in l A one and twenty residents
Speaker 1: are positive, right, I think it's one in eighty confirmed
Speaker 1: in one in twenties, like probably just haven't been tested.
Speaker 1: And this is sorry, this is like a tangent. We'll
Speaker 1: go back to that story you're talking about. But I
Speaker 1: remember at the very beginning New York. It was like
Speaker 1: terrible in New York, and everyone was kind of applauding California.
Speaker 1: And the theory was, well, in California, you know, in
Speaker 1: New York, everyone on top of each other, so they
Speaker 1: can't socially distance, whereas like in California, we're really doing
Speaker 1: it right, We're spread out up. But now l is
Speaker 1: the epicenter. What happened? I guess we opened too we
Speaker 1: opened too fast. Is that why it's so bad here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a combination. And I think, yeah, the time of
Speaker 1: being in the pandemic, like people are getting just sick
Speaker 1: of it at like more of like the emotional toll
Speaker 1: of like trying to lock down and be responsible, Like
Speaker 1: people are reaching that breaking point while the infection rates
Speaker 1: are going up. And I think they're meeting at an
Speaker 1: awful time. And on top of it. Yeah, like we're
Speaker 1: just we're not doing what we should be doing in
Speaker 1: anything sense. And apparently things apparently these numbers right now
Speaker 1: are not even reflecting Thanksgiving yet. So it's going to
Speaker 1: get worse, be way worse before I get it's around now,
Speaker 1: it's going to hit you. My um, my favorite aspect
Speaker 1: of the all the revelations in the c d C
Speaker 1: was there was an advisor to the hh S who
Speaker 1: tried to get the c d C to downplay something
Speaker 1: in their Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, which is like
Speaker 1: this really important report that they put put out, so
Speaker 1: they were trying to like sense or something. And in
Speaker 1: the email, the guy was explaining this and it was
Speaker 1: a longer quote, but he said something like I'll just
Speaker 1: focus on my favorite part. He spelled President President Net
Speaker 1: President President. Oh no, I see what is this is
Speaker 1: designed to hurt this President net for their reasons which
Speaker 1: I am not interested in, um, which it just it
Speaker 1: just feels like a trolling Twitter response. The only people
Speaker 1: who are in favor of the herd immunity theory were
Speaker 1: people who are trying to open the economy, which was
Speaker 1: the Trumble administration, because their theory of the case was
Speaker 1: this is all an attempt to hurt the economy so
Speaker 1: that he loses because the entire universe revolves around them.
Speaker 1: And I think just similarly, I've heard this overall sort
Speaker 1: of model of the globe as like starting in Japan
Speaker 1: and moving westward, you go from a more like collectivist
Speaker 1: view of the world just in terms of like traditional
Speaker 1: like values to and then like ending in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: is like the most individualistic like view of the world. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that probably plays into some of
Speaker 1: why the US is so bad and also why l
Speaker 1: A is now the epicenter. Is like, even after we
Speaker 1: now know like what's so bad about like or how
Speaker 1: the virus operates, we're still willing to you know, it's
Speaker 1: more about us as Angelinos, as Californians than it is
Speaker 1: about like the reality. It's more, you know, I think
Speaker 1: I think Californians tend to be more up their own
Speaker 1: ass than probably uh, the rest of the world. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the people that move here. Honestly, I think that's the problem.
Speaker 1: You know, people here though, you know, I think we're
Speaker 1: the salt, We're the real We're the real Americans who
Speaker 1: get it. It's all the other people, well, but it's
Speaker 1: more than any place I've ever lived, like composed of
Speaker 1: people who are like, yes, that is my shunkri law.
Speaker 1: That is where I will go to actualize myself the
Speaker 1: torment of my high school. And I will make it
Speaker 1: there and prove to them I am not that person.
Speaker 1: What about us who lived here? And also it sucked,
Speaker 1: but we're still here. But yeah, I think with also
Speaker 1: the like you're saying, especially l A, like New York,
Speaker 1: You're like you're saying, you're on top of each other.
Speaker 1: There's a sense of your community, whether you like it
Speaker 1: or not. In New York, like l A, you're in
Speaker 1: your car, You're just you're fucking closed the funk off.
Speaker 1: And I think it's really easy. The weather too, plays
Speaker 1: a huge part where it's almost like, well the weather
Speaker 1: is nice, how could like there's all these things that
Speaker 1: I think act on people's subconsciousness that just are force
Speaker 1: multipliers for how bad we're screwing. The is up and
Speaker 1: on top of it, like the communication is absolute dogshit,
Speaker 1: whether it's coming from the county or the state. It's
Speaker 1: like half the time I'm having I'm seeking it out
Speaker 1: through news articles more than like it passively coming to
Speaker 1: me because they're trying to inform the residents of what's happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you guys feel about businesses that are defying
Speaker 1: the stay at home order or the shutdown order? And
Speaker 1: like still, um, you know, like there's a restaurant. I'm
Speaker 1: in Burbank and there's a guy in Burbank who's making
Speaker 1: news right now because he refuses to shut down his
Speaker 1: restaurant because he and my My visceral response is fuck you,
Speaker 1: you are selfish and near endangeram people. But then it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, his argument is like, look, this is you know,
Speaker 1: my whole life has been about building this business. It's
Speaker 1: all I have, and I've got a hundred percent bills
Speaker 1: and I'm making you know, ten percent if I just
Speaker 1: do to go orders, I'm making ten percent profit. Not profit.
Speaker 1: I'm like making earning ten percent of what I normally
Speaker 1: make in d dada, And like he's and lose this
Speaker 1: business and lose everything. I have compassion, but I still
Speaker 1: feel like it doesn't it doesn't make it okay to
Speaker 1: endanger people. At the same time, like, obviously I feel
Speaker 1: the government should pay people to stay home. That's the answer, right,
Speaker 1: That's that's that's exactly what it is. Like it's so
Speaker 1: easy to understand that impulse of someone who's like, well,
Speaker 1: my b how the so you want me to just die,
Speaker 1: lay down and die basically as a business with no help,
Speaker 1: like I can't do that. Yeah. My one issue is
Speaker 1: that usually the people who are like fuck the government,
Speaker 1: stay home order are also are They're rarely the type
Speaker 1: of people who are like, pay me to stay home.
Speaker 1: They're more the people who are like, you can't tell
Speaker 1: me what to do. I'm this is America, um, And
Speaker 1: that I think is a fundamental misunderstanding of the problem.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, the conversation needs to shift from we
Speaker 1: need to be able to make money to it should
Speaker 1: be the government needs to be paying us, the government
Speaker 1: needs to be sorting out my bills. Not but everyone's
Speaker 1: so fucking odeed on the bootstrap ship that even in
Speaker 1: this situation, it's like I gotta do this, and yes,
Speaker 1: like you're saying, endanger other people their own employees in
Speaker 1: the midst of all of this, when you think like, oh,
Speaker 1: y'all are so close to the to the socialism part
Speaker 1: of it, to like understanding like what's fair, what's equitable,
Speaker 1: what is actually necessary and can acknowledge like, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Don't worry though that you can't work because the government
Speaker 1: is here to take people from people who you know,
Speaker 1: tax them, and the money is there to subsidize things.
Speaker 1: And Jesus, when you look at the countries that are
Speaker 1: like have been subsidizing lost wages for people, it's it's
Speaker 1: so fucked up to look at like how other countries
Speaker 1: are handling and here it's purely like I don't know,
Speaker 1: just burn up, burn up upon reentry. That's sort of
Speaker 1: the strategy. I know that we like people understand that,
Speaker 1: like we the number of cases that we've had in
Speaker 1: this country is so much more than other countries. But
Speaker 1: just like in doing that opening that I've been doing
Speaker 1: for the past week of just the number of cases,
Speaker 1: number of deaths compared to other countries, and then like
Speaker 1: I added the context of like doing research into like
Speaker 1: the portion of like how much smaller we are than
Speaker 1: China and India and like how we're so comparable to
Speaker 1: other countries. It's just like anybody who is not viewing
Speaker 1: this as a stress test of like, Okay, this version
Speaker 1: of running a country is not working. Like that you
Speaker 1: have to be burying your head in the ground. Like
Speaker 1: these values do not function. Not values, I mean they are,
Speaker 1: they're just in a completely wrong direction. I was thinking
Speaker 1: about that today and this is um it's a really
Speaker 1: like it sounds snobby and elitist maybe, but it's like
Speaker 1: this country is so fucking stupid. Yes, yeah, well we're
Speaker 1: just so corrupted or I mean, you know, collectively, the
Speaker 1: culture is just corrupted by greed and consumption, and that's
Speaker 1: those are like the gods of this country. It's also
Speaker 1: science and paranoia, and and I think a lot of
Speaker 1: those are born out of like this singular focus to
Speaker 1: just create value, you know, create as much shareholder value,
Speaker 1: to accumulate as much bullshit as possible. So if anything
Speaker 1: runs counter to that and it's an obstacle, then yeah,
Speaker 1: fox science. If if science is getting in the way
Speaker 1: of making money, then from science, If science the poor
Speaker 1: people are getting in the way of making money, than
Speaker 1: fun poor people. Like It's it's a very simple equation
Speaker 1: you just have to put like, is it in the
Speaker 1: way of making money, then chances are that thing gets
Speaker 1: fucked and completely demolished in the pursuit of making money,
Speaker 1: and that I I don't know, like you think we've
Speaker 1: experienced enough pain collectively as a nation to begin to
Speaker 1: have a reckoning with that. But I think it's just
Speaker 1: so it's fundamentally the foundation that the entire country is
Speaker 1: built upon. It's it's like being like our colors red, white,
Speaker 1: and blue, and you're like, what do you mean? Right?
Speaker 1: You have like individual people defending their own right to
Speaker 1: be exploited, like it is my American god given right
Speaker 1: to be completely exploited by this system. And it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you break through to someone who
Speaker 1: feels that way? Yeah, yeah, how do you break through
Speaker 1: to the guy who has like Trump tattoos on his
Speaker 1: arm and is saying like, with his dying breaths, dying
Speaker 1: from COVID is like Trump, you know, even even as
Speaker 1: he was like he started out being like plandemic, this
Speaker 1: is all made up, is dying of COVID and is
Speaker 1: still with his dying breath being like trumpy Like that's
Speaker 1: and there were more like many people like that. Let's
Speaker 1: talk Dan crunch are real quick, just because I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of the news cycle about him has
Speaker 1: gotten overtaken with his SNL ship, his uh, you know,
Speaker 1: embarrassing avengers, false valor. He's like trying to pass himself
Speaker 1: off as an avenger um. But the reality of who
Speaker 1: this dude is uh recently came up as um. Basically,
Speaker 1: there was a v A investigation a veteran alleged that
Speaker 1: she was sexually assaulted at a v A facility, and
Speaker 1: the v A secretary, Robert Wilkie, was just straightaway trying
Speaker 1: to smear her, and Crenshaw like was with him on
Speaker 1: that and like basically approached him and said that he
Speaker 1: knew of her from serving together, and that she was
Speaker 1: known for making up allegations. Uh, which to put that
Speaker 1: in perspective read any account of what it's like to
Speaker 1: be a woman in the modern military, it makes like
Speaker 1: the workplace from Madmen seemed like wildly progressive like that
Speaker 1: to this day it is wild like the ship that
Speaker 1: they are still getting away with and letting themselves and
Speaker 1: just the standards they hold themselves to. And this asshole
Speaker 1: is like part of part of that problem. And he's
Speaker 1: he's the guy who's you know, out here using the
Speaker 1: fact that he was a veteran to pig up himself.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile he's smearing actual veterans who have actual problems
Speaker 1: and are trying to fix fixed systemic issues with the military.
Speaker 1: Um right, So just a real piece of ship through
Speaker 1: and through and being honest enough to want to create
Speaker 1: change for people after them to not to prevent these
Speaker 1: things from happening. And then Dan Crenshaw is just like
Speaker 1: noth like, that's what you're using your time for, is
Speaker 1: just to just smear someone who's trying to do good
Speaker 1: because you're playing on whatever side of this argument. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and they were saying it's going to make
Speaker 1: it worse for more women who want to come forward
Speaker 1: seeing how this was handled and seeing how there will
Speaker 1: you know, they've shut down, there won't be an investigation
Speaker 1: or they've shut it down. Um. She claimed that the
Speaker 1: guy rammed his lower body into hers and said, you
Speaker 1: look like you could use a good time. Isn't that
Speaker 1: so gross? Yeah? I mean yeah, that documentary, I don't know,
Speaker 1: have you seen the Invisible War that was? Um? If
Speaker 1: I saw, I think I saw it on HBO. It's
Speaker 1: like a Kirby Dick documentary just talking about you know,
Speaker 1: the culture, you know, rape culture, and the how prevalent
Speaker 1: assaults and things are in the in the military, and
Speaker 1: it's really it's shocking because, yeah, for it's a problem
Speaker 1: that's so out in the open and known, but then
Speaker 1: there's also this culture of fear around being able to
Speaker 1: speak up about it and to just to be on
Speaker 1: the side of like perpetuating or protect that, you know,
Speaker 1: the the ongoing culture of assault in the in the
Speaker 1: military just sucked up and yeah, yeah, and just shouldn't
Speaker 1: expected from someone like Dan Crenshaw who's just shown himself
Speaker 1: to have no character at all, aside from wanting to
Speaker 1: play a literal fucking Marvel character. Right, Yeah, watched The
Speaker 1: Invisible War instead of a Marvel movie. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be right back, and
Speaker 1: we're back. Let's talk about Mission Impossible. We we've been
Speaker 1: tracking Tom cruise Is flipouts on the on the trending
Speaker 1: episodes past at the end of last week. But apparently, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been just whiling. I believe it's called uh in
Speaker 1: academic circles. And so they apparently they have shut down
Speaker 1: production on the Mission Impossible movie. And it's not because
Speaker 1: of any COVID like misbehavior. It is because he would
Speaker 1: I guess he got a cent he he saw himself
Speaker 1: in the mirror of these rants. Someone's like, oh, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe all Tommy needs a break. Yeah, he's apparently. Uh
Speaker 1: Friday was like the last day of shooting, and he
Speaker 1: was I guess the planets for him to go to
Speaker 1: Miami to be with his DJ extraordinary son Connor, to
Speaker 1: fucking you know, hang out for the holidays or something.
Speaker 1: But it's just very they're not saying it's obviously obviously
Speaker 1: not from anything to with COVID, but there's no real
Speaker 1: explanation why he's doing that. But I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people like, yeah, maybe he uh he saw a
Speaker 1: look a little bit of cringe from that leaked grant. Uh.
Speaker 1: The other thing that's really interesting is on TMZ there
Speaker 1: because they're just the messiest over there. They were pointing
Speaker 1: out that the mask that Tom Cruise is always being
Speaker 1: pictured in on this set, there's the one that the
Speaker 1: CDs CDC is like, Yo, don't fucking wear those valved masks.
Speaker 1: Those are actually worse because like they're designed to release
Speaker 1: a bunch of are as you exhale very quickly, so
Speaker 1: many things. Yeah, you're just jet shooting out your droplets
Speaker 1: off out the sides of that thing. And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a quote. This type of mask may not
Speaker 1: prevent you from spreading COVID nineteen to others. The hole
Speaker 1: in the material may allow your respiratory droplets to escape
Speaker 1: and reach others. Yeah, it's more for people like fighting
Speaker 1: forest fires, uh, and you know, preventing them from inhaling
Speaker 1: dangerous things. But it has no benefit if you're trying
Speaker 1: to prevent the spread of disease because everything that you're
Speaker 1: exhaling is getting out there. But it does protect you,
Speaker 1: like Allison said, So that's what I think. It's a
Speaker 1: very appropriate mask given the circumstances. It's like the rich
Speaker 1: guy wears the mask that's like, wow, fuck y'all, like
Speaker 1: literally in that I don't trust you, so I'm wearing this,
Speaker 1: And also I don't give a funk what happens to
Speaker 1: you based on what I'm exhaling. So cool. I saw
Speaker 1: a lot of debate about his rant, Like, I saw
Speaker 1: a lot of people defending it and relating to it
Speaker 1: because they also have been very frustrated in their workplaces
Speaker 1: with people not doing what they're supposed to protocol wise.
Speaker 1: But then I saw people saying that well, just first
Speaker 1: of all, coming after Tom Cruise, because he's like the
Speaker 1: face of scientology, which is a pretty um, you know,
Speaker 1: problematic and corrupt organization and criminal. But then also saying
Speaker 1: that he was and this is kind of my emotional
Speaker 1: reaction to his rant, was like, you are taking it
Speaker 1: too far, and you're just excoriating an employee and kind
Speaker 1: of emotionally abusing them. Yeah, taking out on the corporations
Speaker 1: that are putting you in that position, not the like
Speaker 1: small time workers work for you, Like, that's not on them.
Speaker 1: That is a systemic issue. And the fact that you
Speaker 1: are this hyped up and stressed out and from talking
Speaker 1: to the insurance companies and the studios means that you
Speaker 1: should have a different relationship to those insurance companies in
Speaker 1: those studios because you are externalizing you're you're externalizing they're inherent,
Speaker 1: Like treat everybody like ponds that we're moving around to
Speaker 1: create value kind of worldview and treating treating them like
Speaker 1: they're inhuman like that. There's never an excuse to talk
Speaker 1: to people like that. But also he's a couch jumper,
Speaker 1: so I feel like he's got this potential to be
Speaker 1: sort of manic like this. Anyway, Oh, for sure, he's Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's we're just we're all we're like we get like,
Speaker 1: we like where he's coming from in that, like we yes,
Speaker 1: people need to act out of what's in the best
Speaker 1: interests for others given the situation. But yeah, in this context,
Speaker 1: it's like, let's be real, so many of these things
Speaker 1: that they're saying are essential are not essential. And it's tough.
Speaker 1: Like when you know, you have people like I have
Speaker 1: family who works in production. They're going to CRUI in
Speaker 1: the new COVID age where there's like the zones and
Speaker 1: the testing and things like that, but that's all because
Speaker 1: the studios can't shut off the spigot of like the
Speaker 1: of the revenue flowing and all of it sort of
Speaker 1: like leads to like what we couldn't we could just
Speaker 1: handle this like an actual pandemic, and we have to say,
Speaker 1: I know, we're used to the slog and the grind
Speaker 1: of like this economy that we're in, but we actually
Speaker 1: have to stop it and we have to start re
Speaker 1: funneling funds in the right directions to a keep you know,
Speaker 1: keep everyone safe. But that's the thing we're just not
Speaker 1: able to get fundamentally, Like it's just like, well, but
Speaker 1: if some people are like really good about it? Can
Speaker 1: they go and still make money for people? And like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's reports on how some hospitals are, like
Speaker 1: there's a hospital in California that's being used as a
Speaker 1: as a set when it can be when it can
Speaker 1: actually be used as a fucking hospital. But what's going
Speaker 1: to help more people? Joyous entertainment or you know, yeah
Speaker 1: yeah this you know directed TV holiday film that takes
Speaker 1: place in a whimsical hospital or you know, I see
Speaker 1: you beds. But sure, um, all right, let's talk about
Speaker 1: die Hard, Uh, the subject that I'm sure you guys
Speaker 1: have all been waiting to talk about. Um. No, Well,
Speaker 1: so our writer JM pointed out that, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he's he's written he actually wrote a piece back when
Speaker 1: we were at Cracked about how not just Die Hard
Speaker 1: as a Christmas movie, but how it's kind of like
Speaker 1: a socialist Christmas movie. Um, and John McTiernan came out,
Speaker 1: the director and basically just validated everything Jam was talking about,
Speaker 1: like word for word, uh, in a in a pretty
Speaker 1: cool way. So basically he said that he when it
Speaker 1: came to him, the script was the terrorists were leftist terrorists,
Speaker 1: and like John McClain was just you know, authority. He
Speaker 1: represented authority and was like a by the book's cop
Speaker 1: or like a cop who got became a bug in
Speaker 1: the ointment because he happened to be there, and he
Speaker 1: changed it so that they were, you know, thieves who
Speaker 1: were motivated by capitalism. Uh. They were robbing people who
Speaker 1: like all the authority figures are who work at the company.
Speaker 1: Are these like corporate empty suits who are like useless
Speaker 1: the the head of the company, yeah, ellis, but even
Speaker 1: the head of the company, uh dies rather than giving
Speaker 1: up a password like two that would allow his company
Speaker 1: to be like robbed. I've always been I've always been
Speaker 1: like what is he doing? And the point that you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be like that he's dying for a ridiculous cause,
Speaker 1: which is like this runaway what McTiernan calls unregulated cowboy capitalism.
Speaker 1: And he said he was actually like he had been
Speaker 1: sent the script uh like seven times and kept telling
Speaker 1: Jill Sliver no, And then he was watching It's a
Speaker 1: Wonderful Life, specifically the Potterville scene, which he says is
Speaker 1: the clearest demonstration of and criticism of runaway, unregulated cowboy
Speaker 1: capitalism and movies um, and that's what inspired him. He
Speaker 1: also talks about how these paintings in the Louver were
Speaker 1: like how he was thinking about it, how like they
Speaker 1: would these artists would paint like these nobles or like
Speaker 1: these monarchs, and you would actually see like some small
Speaker 1: detail that they actually put all their artistry into, because
Speaker 1: like that was where they could just get their release
Speaker 1: and like do the thing they wanted to, because the
Speaker 1: king would have very specific ideas about how they wanted
Speaker 1: to be portrayed. And so he's basically saying that by
Speaker 1: making a Christmas movie, it's a wonderful life and die
Speaker 1: Hard can sneak in these sort of revolutionary anti capital
Speaker 1: ideas and yeah, just hearing him lay it out, it's
Speaker 1: in a u it's like a twelve minute YouTube video,
Speaker 1: but it's really it's really cool. He talks about how
Speaker 1: the villains are reagan Omics personified in that like Gruber says,
Speaker 1: I'm an exceptional thief. Reagan would always use the word
Speaker 1: exceptional about like calling America exceptional and exceptional nation. Every
Speaker 1: rich guy or bureaucrat is an idiot, and like the
Speaker 1: people who are actually you know, doing good in the
Speaker 1: movie are John McClain who jam wrote about how Holly,
Speaker 1: his ex wife, is like sort of represents America and
Speaker 1: she's being wooed over to this like form of eighties capitalism,
Speaker 1: like hard charging corporate bullshit, and like they give her
Speaker 1: the gift of the watch and like she has this office.
Speaker 1: But then McClain is like this more blue collar cop obviously,
Speaker 1: but he has never written in a limousine and like him, him,
Speaker 1: Argyle and pal al Pal are like the only kind
Speaker 1: of good people in the movie, and then Holly kind
Speaker 1: of comes over to their side at the end. I
Speaker 1: love this reading of it. I have a question. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say something which is going to change how
Speaker 1: everyone feels about me. I fear I have here it goes,
Speaker 1: I haven't seen die Hards. Okay, thank you, you've seen
Speaker 1: the rock though, right now? What does cut the mics?
Speaker 1: Cut the mics? Question? But this reading of it, like
Speaker 1: the average would anyone aside from JM like, is that
Speaker 1: how apparent is this to someone watching it? So I
Speaker 1: this was my favorite movie when I was eight die
Speaker 1: Hard and it's I'm realizing the values did bleed through
Speaker 1: a little bit and just sort of the emptiness of
Speaker 1: the capitalist enterprise, the emptiness of the thieves just you know,
Speaker 1: like they seem like it seems like, yeah, what this
Speaker 1: is all? All these people are being killed for these
Speaker 1: bonds that are just pieces of paper that are snowing
Speaker 1: down like from the building like at the end and
Speaker 1: are just like meaningless, like and yeah, you learn to
Speaker 1: think of at least the leadership in the FBI and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, and corporate America as just complete empty idiot
Speaker 1: m hmm, what should I see it? At least I
Speaker 1: think it's still one of my five favorite movies. And
Speaker 1: it's like it's like it's like a good sort of
Speaker 1: you know, Christmas film. You know, it's like one of
Speaker 1: those Christmas films. It's like is it a Christmas film?
Speaker 1: And you're like, yeah, it's yeah, I'm all called a
Speaker 1: Christmas film. I feel like recently this idea that it's
Speaker 1: a Christmas film has caught on. Yeah, doesn't it feel
Speaker 1: very recent. It's been a like online conversation for a while.
Speaker 1: Like it was like a meme, like my favorite Christmas
Speaker 1: movie is die Hard was like a meme that like
Speaker 1: was sort of a cool thing to say on Reddit
Speaker 1: decades ago, and then uh, now it's like crossed over
Speaker 1: to the mainstream, and it's like the conversation that people are,
Speaker 1: you know, that morning news casters would like have with
Speaker 1: each other. Now I feel like, what will they think
Speaker 1: of next? I'll tell you what my favorite movie is, Sally.
Speaker 1: It's die Hard, I know, I know, but I love
Speaker 1: the machine Guns. I gotta tell you it's my favorite
Speaker 1: Christmas next act, she just says, what will they think
Speaker 1: of next? Yeah? Yeah, But I do love the idea
Speaker 1: of the king losing control of the content being like
Speaker 1: a thing that you can track throughout throughout history, and
Speaker 1: like the our king is obviously this vast, you know,
Speaker 1: network of values around consumer capitalism, and so being able
Speaker 1: to sneak a critique of that into a movie that
Speaker 1: directly appeals to people who were the very core of
Speaker 1: those value you know, the eighties was all about like
Speaker 1: Stallone going to Vietnam and re winning the Vietnam War
Speaker 1: in history, getting all those POWs back from the camps
Speaker 1: where they were still totally being held by the Vietnamese government. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you know Schwarzenegger, that was like the authoritarian ideology
Speaker 1: of America from the eighties sort of personified in movies.
Speaker 1: And then they created this action movie where it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: sarcastic blue collar cop who like thinks all the you know,
Speaker 1: Reaganism is ridiculous. Yeah, it's funny because then when he
Speaker 1: works with like Schwarzenegger again it's last action hero that's
Speaker 1: like a very like self aware thing, and he's almost like, look,
Speaker 1: I know we worked together on Predator. He's like, but
Speaker 1: I got some let's get let's like lean into this
Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger thing a little bit more. Yeah. Sorry, mctiernan's got
Speaker 1: his eye out. Okay, all right, Yeah, anyways, Alison, it's
Speaker 1: been a pleasure having you. Sorry for just rambling about
Speaker 1: action movies for the last ten minutes, but it's okay.
Speaker 1: My mind just went to a place which had poop
Speaker 1: and shoe boxes. Now it's good. I need, I need, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to see die Hard. I need to catch up. Um.
Speaker 1: I think my favorite movie when I was eight was
Speaker 1: probably Short Circuit. Ah, I was up there for me
Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, that was a good one. It was
Speaker 1: also like the first hard R rated movie that I
Speaker 1: had seen, and I think it just like blew my
Speaker 1: little mind. I was like, what batteries not batteries not included?
Speaker 1: I think it was mine before short because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: little robots when I was a kid, like yeah, um yeah,
Speaker 1: And then you're like, are these characters offensive? Look? Man,
Speaker 1: let's it was the eighties man. We were trying to
Speaker 1: figure it out. Yeah. Yeah, Alison, where can people find you?
Speaker 1: Follow you here? You all that? Yes, please listen to
Speaker 1: my podcast Allison Rosen is your new best friend and
Speaker 1: my parenting ish And I say ish because you don't
Speaker 1: need to have kids to listen to it. I say,
Speaker 1: like half of our litteners don't. My parenting podcast that
Speaker 1: I do with Greg fitz Simmons, it's called childish. Um.
Speaker 1: Follow me on social media at Allison Rosen a l
Speaker 1: I s O, n R OSC n UM. I'm also
Speaker 1: on Patreon, I'm on cameo, and I'm on YouTube, YouTube
Speaker 1: dot com, slash Allison Rosen awesome. And is there a
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Oh? Yes, um, let me find it? Okay,
Speaker 1: So um, I actually don't know the people who tweeted this, however,
Speaker 1: Uh someone called She's witty, shitty and a little and
Speaker 1: then dot dot dot because it's just a screen grub.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the rest of the name is.
Speaker 1: Um wrote, not everyone will get this, and it's a
Speaker 1: pie and on the edge of the pie is like
Speaker 1: three point one four one, you know pie, the number
Speaker 1: pie going all the way around it, the circumference of it.
Speaker 1: And then uh, someone named father Abraham quote tweeted it
Speaker 1: and said literally everyone will get this, And it just
Speaker 1: cracked me up because I love when people I think
Speaker 1: that they're smarter than everyone and someone's like, no, that's
Speaker 1: pretty bag. Not everyone's going to get this kind of
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit of a math nerd. No, no, miles,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? What's tweet you've been enjoying? Oh? Man? Uh? Twitter? Instagram,
Speaker 1: miles of gray. Also four twenty day fiance if you
Speaker 1: want to hear me talk ninety day. Uh. A couple
Speaker 1: of tweets, like a lot of people were tagging us
Speaker 1: in this one tweet from at not like the soup
Speaker 1: and it looks like a thin blue line flag, but
Speaker 1: rather than like the sort of cobalt royal blue that
Speaker 1: we're used seeing for those police flags, it's a tinge.
Speaker 1: It's just a bit greener than tiffany blue, which we
Speaker 1: all know is the true color of blast and this
Speaker 1: flag apparently someone that this caption around says the thin
Speaker 1: Baja blast line represents our hard working taco bell workers
Speaker 1: who put their lives online every day, certains delicious, gut
Speaker 1: wrenching food, providing providing Baja blast for the masses, and
Speaker 1: saying no, I do not know when potatoes are coming back,
Speaker 1: all for like ten dollars an hour. So yes, true heroes.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see a play on that uh flag
Speaker 1: when it's not um, you know, caping for systemic racism.
Speaker 1: A couple other tweets I like, um This one is
Speaker 1: from at m M l x x X sith Lord.
Speaker 1: It says, bro, we really at zero percent icy you
Speaker 1: capacity in the fun King mall is open l m A,
Speaker 1: oh my god exactly. And another one is from Simon
Speaker 1: Gibson at Simeon Gibson. Six dollars is what rich people
Speaker 1: think poor people think is a lot of money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's exactly. It's precisely the issue we are having.
Speaker 1: But aside from that, we just have goons who are
Speaker 1: so out of touch of their humanity they don't know
Speaker 1: how most people are living day to day. I like
Speaker 1: to tweet by eat Lover's pizza. That said, next Stimulus
Speaker 1: is going to be one of these, and it's just
Speaker 1: one of those twenty percent off bed, bath and beyond,
Speaker 1: so you get anytime you're new to a neighbor, at
Speaker 1: least combine them. If I got two, can it? Nope,
Speaker 1: that does not work. And if you haven't tried that,
Speaker 1: you We've tried, real ones have tried. Yes, Yes, at
Speaker 1: Rax King is dead, tweeted Guy Fierry. Looks like if
Speaker 1: Santa Claus was in Sugar Ray. Um, that's yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that. I like that. Uh. You can find me
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore. O'Brien, you can find us
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily Zeitgeist
Speaker 1: on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website,
Speaker 1: Daily zeitgeist dot com, where we post our episodes and
Speaker 1: our footnotes where we link off to the information that
Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as the
Speaker 1: song we ride out on Miles what are we riding
Speaker 1: out on? And into the holiday break up poem? I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, is it really a break We're still coming
Speaker 1: with it to give you the takes over the next
Speaker 1: few weeks. Uh, this is a track another track from
Speaker 1: Dirty Art Club, one of my favorite like a little
Speaker 1: sample based artists, and this one's called Plastic drip uh
Speaker 1: and it just got again. I love sample based music
Speaker 1: because it's really like the collage of music, if I
Speaker 1: were to compare it to art. It's just really taking
Speaker 1: from all of these things, putting them together and presenting
Speaker 1: us a complete thought with elements that seem familiar yet
Speaker 1: are giving us something new. So shout out to Dirty
Speaker 1: Art Club and this track Plastic Drip. I don't know
Speaker 1: why the title appealed to me because the idea I've
Speaker 1: been having a whole struggle with drip and what when
Speaker 1: I wear outfits anymore? When I go out and say
Speaker 1: I would like to wear a nice sweater, and I
Speaker 1: just want to get in touch with that again. I
Speaker 1: think next next time we zoom, I'm gonna start wearing
Speaker 1: like a suit or something outfit I couldn't. I could
Speaker 1: award to a holiday party, but I couldn't. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just rock them on these Zoom calls. But anyway, that
Speaker 1: was my I like this track, Plastic Drip. I hope
Speaker 1: you do too, and I hope you'll have a great
Speaker 1: holiday next time we zoom, I will be wearing this
Speaker 1: same sweatshirt and the same hat. Yeah, cut to me
Speaker 1: doing the same ship. Also, like I'll say this ship
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I don't know that trying it's all bullshit.
Speaker 1: I think I don't know when I'm coming back. I
Speaker 1: hope it's soon. But I'm just gonna sit in this
Speaker 1: chair and not move till then, so I'll be in
Speaker 1: the same outfit. Thank you, thank you. Thanks all right.
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Speaker 1: tomorrow with some year end episode, some holiday themed episodes
Speaker 1: coming at you over the next couple of weeks. Uh.
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