Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season one, Episode two
Speaker 1: of Days Guys, the production of I Heart Radio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: America's share courches. It's Tuesday, December eight forty some odd
Speaker 1: days until January. My name is Jack O'Brien a k
Speaker 1: Come along and ride on a Juliani voyage. Die di'm
Speaker 1: melting hair, die a fart on the mic as I
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Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Speaker 1: Mr Miles gra triumphantly sitting on their behinds Cobra drank fidgets,
Speaker 1: spending in time, the green light flashes, bass soap goes up,
Speaker 1: learning and churning. The news always sucks. They definitely maneuver
Speaker 1: the Daily Landscape episodes produced fast Wood gets that our
Speaker 1: dake reckless and wild with hot takes. They burned, but
Speaker 1: their premises potent as I gang off, learn and then
Speaker 1: so then okay, and then we can go do do
Speaker 1: dot dot do? They have the persistence, They have what
Speaker 1: we need. Jack's not alone, all alone. He's got miles
Speaker 1: high as fuck on weed. Anyway, That's it Christiema Gucci
Speaker 1: Man always. I always love it hearing cake, especially for
Speaker 1: a band dork like me playing trumpet, and there weren't
Speaker 1: really bands like vibing with troum on this side, be like, oh,
Speaker 1: y'all don't funk with jazz. Try saying that as a
Speaker 1: ten year old, this was a great song for me.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I feel like the Eades ruined brass
Speaker 1: for a little bit because like they just had that dramatic,
Speaker 1: sexy uh saxophone always always playing as like a sax
Speaker 1: solo and now I mean Herb Albert and like Chuck Mangione,
Speaker 1: like they took trumpet into like it's catchy. But you know,
Speaker 1: like you're not being like, oh did you see Herb Alpert,
Speaker 1: Like I'm I'm hopping on that the second I see you. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's it's different than jazz. But hey, you know we
Speaker 1: got we have cake though. Yeah, yeah, that's well. We
Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
Speaker 1: the hilarious, the talented Allison Steven say, Hi, hello, oh
Speaker 1: come back, how are you doing? You know? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: perpetually evolving. I feel like it's you should you're not
Speaker 1: allowed to say that you're good, even if it's like
Speaker 1: the standard thing you have to say. I feel like
Speaker 1: just not allowed to be like, yeah, my god, I'm
Speaker 1: so good. And it was supposed to set off our
Speaker 1: electric shock callers for asking how are you? Because what's new?
Speaker 1: What's new? What's anything new? Anything good? On TV? Well?
Speaker 1: I did are? I told you earlier, but I had
Speaker 1: I did just come back from the hospital a few
Speaker 1: days ago, right, yes, you're for fun. Yeah, just get
Speaker 1: some stuff rearranged. Like what if my heart was like
Speaker 1: that on this side? Yeah, what do you think? Doc? Know?
Speaker 1: I had to get my gall bladder removed? Oh ship, Ye,
Speaker 1: it's ah, and I the like even in your description
Speaker 1: of I went to the e er and they were like, NA,
Speaker 1: you're good, go home, which is like, you know, I've
Speaker 1: unfortunately had friends have told that to them and ship
Speaker 1: went horribly south when they went home. And I'm just
Speaker 1: so glad that despite that happening, and you're going back
Speaker 1: in another doctor like, okay, we gotta get your gall
Speaker 1: bladder out that you're okay, Thank the Lord, Thank the Lord. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I find that gall bladder removal is rarely an elective surgery.
Speaker 1: It's usually things are going bad. At that point, we
Speaker 1: all know I need to lose weight. I was like,
Speaker 1: what if I just like four ounces from the morbid
Speaker 1: idiot beside of me is do you can you ask
Speaker 1: for your extracted biological organ after the I asked and
Speaker 1: they said I couldn't. Oh, fuck you right, fuck you?
Speaker 1: You know, And I don't want to get into the
Speaker 1: financials of it, but i'd imagine you know that they're
Speaker 1: going to charge insurance whoever, whoever you know, if you
Speaker 1: or whoever's footing the bill, that's a lot of money
Speaker 1: that should come with the free trash park that comes
Speaker 1: with it. I shouldn't be able to get my gallbladder
Speaker 1: in a jar or some ship. Would you save it though?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know we asked those questions, and even
Speaker 1: if they said, yeah, you want it to be like no,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just curious. I would I would have
Speaker 1: saved it. And the little gall stones is it small? Apparently? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like a teeny little They like took it out
Speaker 1: of my belly button. Oh wow, that's pretty cool. I
Speaker 1: am so ignorant about most things medical, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, I hear anything that's inside your bottom, like
Speaker 1: So that's the size of a volleyball. You know that,
Speaker 1: I actually don't. I don't know the answer, e button.
Speaker 1: So I'm just imagining it like the size of a quarter.
Speaker 1: I think mentally that's what I needed to be or
Speaker 1: at most of the thing. Agent Smith pulls on puts
Speaker 1: on Neo's belly button in the right. I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: I have to imagine that was exactly how your procedure
Speaker 1: went in the back up a speeding cab. Yeah, with
Speaker 1: like some weird laser like hold on, I've got it,
Speaker 1: I'm tracking it on. Wow, that that sounds like a lot,
Speaker 1: especially the way I'm imagining it. So we're very very happy,
Speaker 1: resilient happy back here people postop guests who are coming
Speaker 1: out of medical procedures, people who were battling COVID. So
Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Alright, Well, let's tell the listeners what
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about, and then we'll get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better. Allison. Uh. First, we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about spiked feste uh coming at you from
Speaker 1: the Trump administration. We're gonna talk about Kelly Leffler's debate performance.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about how Melbourne Melbourne. Uh, and the
Speaker 1: state of Victoria and Australia. How they're approaching the COVID
Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic. Uh. They for the past four weeks have
Speaker 1: had checking my numbers here, zero new cases of COVID nineteen.
Speaker 1: So well, we'll talk about how they pulled that off. Hint,
Speaker 1: it's exactly what. They didn't come up with any new ideas, guys,
Speaker 1: they they just did the damn thing. Uh. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about Staten Island, a bar in Staten Island and its
Speaker 1: relationship to one Pete Davidson. Uh. We will talk about
Speaker 1: the new release, the new report on the Havana syndrome. Uh,
Speaker 1: that you know, as an ongoing story we like to cover.
Speaker 1: We like to talk about anytime there's new evidence that
Speaker 1: enters the scene got a new angle, not really actually
Speaker 1: but well, you know, still still very foggy, but uh, well,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about it all of that plenty more. But first, Alison,
Speaker 1: we like task our guests, what's something from your search
Speaker 1: history that's revealing about who you are? I recently googled
Speaker 1: if hamsters can chew on Palo Santo Santo like for
Speaker 1: them to? It's if it's safe for them to nod Ato.
Speaker 1: That is the most like silver Lake Google thing I've
Speaker 1: ever heard in my life. I think, if you don't
Speaker 1: know what Paolo Santo is like, it's if you've ever
Speaker 1: if wherever you're in the country, if you have some
Speaker 1: crunchy friends who are like seemingly just lighting a shard
Speaker 1: of wood on fire and being like, the vibe in
Speaker 1: here is so great. Superproducer Nick Stump famously kept his
Speaker 1: control room just just piping with the Polo Santo smoke.
Speaker 1: So is it safe though? Clear's negative energy? It's as
Speaker 1: Sage apparently Plessantro is canceled though, is what I've heard.
Speaker 1: Canceled Little Saint Paulo the person on themselves. Okay, I
Speaker 1: think like white people like myself, who are like, can
Speaker 1: I answer to you on it? Like take it back?
Speaker 1: Don't let him have it with taking it back? What
Speaker 1: does it smell like when it's burning? Like, is it petulish?
Speaker 1: When we look at it smells pretty damn good. I
Speaker 1: think it smells better okay for it over stage for sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: any like place where they're selling crystals is like like
Speaker 1: Putuli gave way to Sage, which gave way to Polo Santo, Right, now,
Speaker 1: you know, go to your local crystal shop. If you
Speaker 1: don't know that's it probably smells like Polo Santo in there.
Speaker 1: M okay, I will do that the second that I'm
Speaker 1: going to make a bee line for that, the second
Speaker 1: this uh lockdown of this lift or like musicians especially
Speaker 1: love it. I think that's why Nick had it too,
Speaker 1: because I've never been like with vibe musicians who if
Speaker 1: you were playing with them or in a sad Shian
Speaker 1: or like a rehearsal where they were just like, let
Speaker 1: me just get the polo go on a little bit,
Speaker 1: just like it out. Like. That's why it's such a
Speaker 1: sober like thing in my mind, because like so many
Speaker 1: rehearsal spaces just spelled like weed, like uh paps and
Speaker 1: you know Paulo Santo. Alison, how are you enjoying your
Speaker 1: Paolo Santo? Are you like lighting a Is it just
Speaker 1: like a stick that you light always? Literally it's like
Speaker 1: do I have it on me? No, it's literally just
Speaker 1: like a stick. Yeah, it's the most uninteresting thing to see.
Speaker 1: You know, it's very basic. It smells really good, clears
Speaker 1: negative negative energy if you're into that stuff. But I
Speaker 1: have a pet hamster and he needed a new chew toy,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm you know, post recovery surgery mode,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, I have Palo Santo. Like can
Speaker 1: giving that? Yeah, like give you something to entertain yourself with.
Speaker 1: I ultimately decided not to, even though I couldn't find
Speaker 1: a straight answer on Polo Santo specifically, it seemed like
Speaker 1: it might be too risky of a wood for a hamster.
Speaker 1: Would you pivot to? I ended up just waiting, and
Speaker 1: I ended up just waiting and asked my sister to
Speaker 1: go to Peco for me, and she got pencil shaped
Speaker 1: wood choo things. Ah. Yeah, should have experimented with the polosanto.
Speaker 1: Maybe it Maybe it would have changed the whole vibe
Speaker 1: of the hamster. So hamster cho toys just just would
Speaker 1: Is that kind of the I could talk about hamsters forever,
Speaker 1: so don't get me started. But it's they are very finicky,
Speaker 1: fragile creatures, and I don't understand why we sell them
Speaker 1: to like five year olds, Like that's not okay. They
Speaker 1: actually very high maintenance animals and even like the type
Speaker 1: of wood they choose important because some what is poisonous
Speaker 1: to them. Another would is isn't like pine is bad
Speaker 1: for them, like stuff like that they can choke on
Speaker 1: some and not on others, or like some are like poison.
Speaker 1: I don't know basically, so yeah, it matters what kind
Speaker 1: of wol do they chew? For the record, you know,
Speaker 1: Allison is on her stenographer's keyboard right now, just all
Speaker 1: that typing you hear? Is that transcribing everything the minutes
Speaker 1: of this episode? Alison? What is something you think is underrated? Uh?
Speaker 1: I need to think about this because I really don't. Okay,
Speaker 1: has is anybody fucking with Pluto TV? I've seen mention
Speaker 1: of Pluto TV and I know the words as a sequence.
Speaker 1: It's like that app prayer you know your Roku device
Speaker 1: or whatever your whatever that it's called. Don't know, yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: And it's like it's you can watch channels, but all
Speaker 1: the channels are really specific and it kind of amazing.
Speaker 1: Like there's a channel that's just playing uh mtvs. The
Speaker 1: Challenge NonStop. Yeah, there's random mass channels that just play
Speaker 1: like one show or like a genre kind of fun.
Speaker 1: It's fun to also like have channels again where you're
Speaker 1: like searching through things, right and going up and down.
Speaker 1: So when you go to the channel for the challenge.
Speaker 1: It's just you enter at a place where whatever like
Speaker 1: rotation there on, like everybody's watching it at the same time.
Speaker 1: You have no choice in the matter. I feel I
Speaker 1: feel like un certain channels. Yeah, I feel like that's
Speaker 1: got to be like a thing that's coming is just
Speaker 1: back to linear stuff that people can all enjoy together.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, it's too of having to make decisions. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm like even like DVRs fucking of like even being like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, it's Sunday, I'm gonna go turn this on.
Speaker 1: Like I've completely like catterized that sensation out of my
Speaker 1: soul of like being like thing being tied to a day.
Speaker 1: Obviously because of the pandemic, like linear time is also
Speaker 1: a bit wonky at the moment. But I just feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like trying to even select anything is like the cheesecake
Speaker 1: factory menu, you know, by like exponent ten of like
Speaker 1: overwhelming you know, feelings of too much variety, Yeah, cheesecake
Speaker 1: factory ization of America. Yeah, and look at look at
Speaker 1: him now begging for that money. I have a nervous
Speaker 1: breakdown every time I get to the cheesecake factory. That's
Speaker 1: why again. I'll say it again, Chicken littles. Don't even
Speaker 1: show me, just don't show me the fucking menu. I
Speaker 1: want chicken littles. Let's go. Yeah, It's like they're chicken
Speaker 1: Tenders but has mashed potatoes. So first time I ordered
Speaker 1: on a date, I was like, see, I'm I ain't
Speaker 1: no kid sat fries and chicken tenders. He's chicken and
Speaker 1: little with mashed putain a little. We were corn cobs
Speaker 1: stuck in it. But they've named their chicken tenders after
Speaker 1: the character who uh from from the cartoon who thought
Speaker 1: this guy was falling? Um, just to give it a
Speaker 1: personal kick. Know who you're eating when we're look people
Speaker 1: know other factory goons as we call ourselves when we
Speaker 1: pull up to the factory to the fact, you know,
Speaker 1: we know what time it is. We're just there for
Speaker 1: the food. We don't look too much into the names,
Speaker 1: like like a unionized or not yet not yet. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of a lot of interesting takes on
Speaker 1: union unionizing within the fact gang um. But we'll see. Alison,
Speaker 1: what's something you think is overrated? I mean I really
Speaker 1: could not think of anything I want. I was like, okay, baby,
Speaker 1: since I'm going on this polutot thing we're talking about,
Speaker 1: Like I could say Netflix, because personally I'm sick of Netflix.
Speaker 1: I can't find anything to watch anymore. It's interesting to
Speaker 1: me they took away a lot of the stuff I
Speaker 1: liked would they take away? They took away Frasier. That's it.
Speaker 1: That's the only thing I watched. Where's Fraser right now?
Speaker 1: Because Luckily is on Hulu? Oh shit? Okay, So I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I'm very ready to be done with Netflix
Speaker 1: unless they want to give me a fucking shower or something,
Speaker 1: in which case I'm loving it. And it's actually I'm
Speaker 1: the joke, not Netflix, all right, Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's it is like Netflix is almost now just it's
Speaker 1: like almost like what HBO became, where it's not so
Speaker 1: much about like what's on there, but the thing that
Speaker 1: only they make where I'm like, oh, ship right, that's
Speaker 1: only on Netflix versus before you like, oh, put Netflix
Speaker 1: on It's got everything now, I'm like, fuck that. Like
Speaker 1: I don't even like my que anymore or like my
Speaker 1: list that I've put together. I'm like, I don't think
Speaker 1: I've touched my cue, and like three years it's just
Speaker 1: that I was interested in I Haven't a Child, the
Speaker 1: literally from six years ago, the follow up documentary to
Speaker 1: the Brazilian film City of God, like the ten year
Speaker 1: anniversary retrospective documentary, like talking to the child actors from it,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, this ship is dope. And that
Speaker 1: was that I put that que have not watched it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got that Orson Wells documentary and the new Orson
Speaker 1: Wells like the Color of the Wind or whatever at
Speaker 1: the top of my thing. And I feel stuff you
Speaker 1: put to the queue is things that you're like, I
Speaker 1: should watch this exactly. It's aspirational. But that's a a
Speaker 1: black and white movie by or some Wells that people
Speaker 1: were like, it's pretty good if you're or some Wells.
Speaker 1: Completest is a real Uh, it's a real stopper. Apparently
Speaker 1: for me. Every time I see it, I just like
Speaker 1: get a little anxious and move on. Um, I we
Speaker 1: have those, we have those pieces of content. Yeah. My
Speaker 1: que is that documentary The Family, which like I know,
Speaker 1: like I'm not going to be surprised by anything I
Speaker 1: see in it, so I'm like whatever, if I get
Speaker 1: to it, I get to it. Uh. And then Black
Speaker 1: Godfather because my grandpa used to hang out with that
Speaker 1: dude and my grandpa and my dad was like, it
Speaker 1: should check that out. Man. There's a bunch of Just
Speaker 1: now that the top ten lists year end lists are
Speaker 1: coming out, it seems like a lot of the movies
Speaker 1: that people are putting on their top ten lists are
Speaker 1: just like documentaries that I've never heard of, because yeah,
Speaker 1: a bunch of like wild documentaries came out this year. Uh,
Speaker 1: because nobody was like, we gotta wait until the box
Speaker 1: office comes back for these streaming a sort of their
Speaker 1: national natural environment, so maybe we can do some doc
Speaker 1: Rerex Man Tiger King Bro. Yeah, that's one of the
Speaker 1: exactly was most united. Yeah, we were. It was like
Speaker 1: the early days of the Pan Demmick when we were
Speaker 1: just like this is fun and it's that part of
Speaker 1: the cartoon where like the character goes off the cliff
Speaker 1: and yeah, he hasn't kicked in yet, and you're like, ha, wow, seriously,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. And we're back, and we've been since the
Speaker 1: election results seemed to solidify around a Biden victory. UM,
Speaker 1: we have been wondering what what his inauguration is going
Speaker 1: to look like, and particularly what the president, the current president,
Speaker 1: the former president, the lamb duck president Trump is going
Speaker 1: to be doing at that time. It's pretty unheard of
Speaker 1: for the president not to they're hand handing power over. Uh.
Speaker 1: And yet it's impossible to imagine him doing that. Nope,
Speaker 1: despite what even Lindsay Graham has been saying, like because
Speaker 1: you know, Lindsay Graham's even you know, he's got to
Speaker 1: play the part of just sick of fan but also
Speaker 1: like trying to like wink at like a reality based
Speaker 1: people in the political world, like, but I get what's
Speaker 1: going on to but just just I'm kind of going
Speaker 1: through it right now, so just bear with me. Um.
Speaker 1: He was saying, quote, if Biden winds up winning, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he should attend like doing the same thing, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: if he ends up he is whin. He did wind
Speaker 1: up winning by like an over eight million votes now
Speaker 1: and counting, and quote he's quote, I just think it's
Speaker 1: good for the country, would be good for him. Okay,
Speaker 1: Lindsey cut to what we were speculating from the beginning
Speaker 1: about what will happen if Donald Trump loses. It's called
Speaker 1: the funk out of here. I'm gonna do my own
Speaker 1: counter programming on the exact same day because I'm spiteful
Speaker 1: and petty and i have nothing else going on for me.
Speaker 1: And that's where we're at. Um there there, the rumors
Speaker 1: are flying now. Quote. The tentative plan would involve Trump
Speaker 1: departing on Marine one before flying to his primary residents
Speaker 1: of Florida for a four campaign rally. Jesus m m
Speaker 1: m m exactly. It was never he was never gonna
Speaker 1: be there. He was always going to do his own
Speaker 1: fucking thing and completely ignore what's happening in d c U.
Speaker 1: Then when they reached out, I think Axios reached out
Speaker 1: to the White House to be like, Okay, what's going on.
Speaker 1: We're hearing a lot about this. Um, this is what
Speaker 1: they This is from the White House spokesman Judd Dear saying,
Speaker 1: quote anonymous sources who claimed to know what the president
Speaker 1: is or is not considering having no idea. When President
Speaker 1: Trump has an announcement about his plans for January twenty,
Speaker 1: he will let you know, which to me just says, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's doing that ship, except he'll get mad if any
Speaker 1: of us leak it before he can put that ship
Speaker 1: on Twitter and then see the likes come in because
Speaker 1: that's kind of his whole thing. Now, Um yeah, wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this could be the beginning of sort of
Speaker 1: what we had speculated might happen, which is like Trump
Speaker 1: is the shadow president. It's just they're undermining everything that
Speaker 1: the actual administration does the entire time and is basically
Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes, like giving marching orders to
Speaker 1: the you know, chunk of the country who still supports
Speaker 1: him and thinks he got robbed. It's not as big
Speaker 1: of a chunk as we think it is, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's going down. Well, yeah, you can only stay so
Speaker 1: angry at things you can't prove for a while. Like
Speaker 1: I get like the dude people who lost their manufacturing
Speaker 1: jobs and still have that energy for immigrants. Not that
Speaker 1: I say it's reasonable or rational, but like you can
Speaker 1: at least point to data in your life and say,
Speaker 1: I'm still unemployed. My existence is not what I think
Speaker 1: it could be. I have this anger to now be
Speaker 1: redirected into xenophobia, whereas like this ship, there's nothing aside
Speaker 1: from like unless you're purely we're just on that train
Speaker 1: of like this can't be happening. It's hard to look
Speaker 1: every day and be like, well, there really isn't shift
Speaker 1: for me to sink my teeth into, like from from
Speaker 1: a place that's really going to inspire sincere outrage aside
Speaker 1: from just taking an l in the culture war. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for this to be happening around the whole like nexium
Speaker 1: like buzz or whatever, when that whole, like it just
Speaker 1: it felt so much like wow, this is a cult,
Speaker 1: Like this is how people and cults think, where no
Speaker 1: matter what you throw it, then that's like fact. It's
Speaker 1: just like now sorry, my leader says opposite. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: I think it's a It's also like those scenes and
Speaker 1: like cult films were like the cult, like it starts
Speaker 1: off as like this non cult thing, but as it
Speaker 1: starts turning into the cult, like they start shedding the
Speaker 1: like reasonable people who are like oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like I think, okay, y'all do that. They're like, see
Speaker 1: the nonbelievers are gone. And then it's like accelerating, and
Speaker 1: I think we're in that stage now where they're shedding
Speaker 1: people like not that they're going against the Trump campaign,
Speaker 1: but they're less inspired by like what the programming is
Speaker 1: when they tune in right, Um, so NBC will presumably
Speaker 1: be covering this instead of the inauguration if we if
Speaker 1: we're we learned anything from the actual presidential campaign though,
Speaker 1: I mean, do you think he's got I mean I
Speaker 1: know that sure he says to like keep the momentum up,
Speaker 1: but like we've seen, like he what he already raised,
Speaker 1: like a hundred eighty million off the backs of his
Speaker 1: stopped to steal nonsense, where three fourths of the money
Speaker 1: donated can go to whatever the funk he wants. I
Speaker 1: gets stipulated in those donations. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is truly too that he has the energy or
Speaker 1: he just knows this is the best way, this is
Speaker 1: the best market employ to get more asses in the
Speaker 1: seats for whatever is going to happen on January. Energy
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be the thing that's going to stop him.
Speaker 1: He seems like, you know, the thing that makes him
Speaker 1: so toxic as a human being is also the thing
Speaker 1: that drives him, which is like the gaping sucking wound
Speaker 1: where other people have souls, Like that's the thing that
Speaker 1: is just driving him. Vacuum. Yeah, just like so much
Speaker 1: pain that like he is not acknowledging and like that
Speaker 1: apparently works as like a internal combustion engine of just
Speaker 1: grief and like all all the human feelings that the
Speaker 1: rest of us have that he is not acknowledging and
Speaker 1: are just like being disintegrated. H Maybe we just need
Speaker 1: like the ghost of his dad to be like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm proud of you. Look I fucked up. Kid. Could
Speaker 1: have done it differently. I totally would have. Man, I
Speaker 1: should have been there for you, and I wasn't and
Speaker 1: I did. It eats me up in hell every day
Speaker 1: it does. But you know what, buddy will be together
Speaker 1: in about fourteen hours. So um, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's it's it's almost like he's using the arrogance
Speaker 1: as the steam to power his dreams um as one
Speaker 1: Kanye West once said, But yeah it is. I don't.
Speaker 1: He definitely needs the cheers and as long as that's going,
Speaker 1: he'll just say whatever he has to. But there was
Speaker 1: I think it's in the New Republic or Mother Jones,
Speaker 1: like they were pointing out, like one theme about a
Speaker 1: lot of his speeches throughout the last four years was
Speaker 1: how he would always lament about his old life publicly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like how he was just like you know, maybe
Speaker 1: I should just go back, you know, I had a
Speaker 1: lot of good stuff. They're like, I don't know why
Speaker 1: I do this, Like if maybe at some level of
Speaker 1: that thinking will also overtake him where it's like he
Speaker 1: likes the optics of the confrontation, but deep down doesn't
Speaker 1: he just want to swing his golf club all day
Speaker 1: and just yell at a TV and not have to lead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at the same time, like he I think that's part
Speaker 1: of his narrative, right, the central like myth that they're
Speaker 1: trying to build around his presidency, that like he didn't
Speaker 1: need to do this, and he like he didn't want
Speaker 1: to successful. I was having so much fun on and
Speaker 1: then but like in terms of the things that feed
Speaker 1: his like poisonous uh soul, I feel like the just
Speaker 1: you can't beat the public attention that he's gotten, Like
Speaker 1: no human has gobbled up the sheer like mass of
Speaker 1: attention and human like willpower and um thinking that he has.
Speaker 1: And that is like the ultimate execution of a narcissist, right,
Speaker 1: Like of a narcissist fantasy is to be the center
Speaker 1: of attention. Like I I feel like that's probably gonna
Speaker 1: proved to be a pretty toxic um or pretty like
Speaker 1: attractive potion for him to just give up cold turkey.
Speaker 1: Do you think he can jump the shark, so to speak.
Speaker 1: I mean his like attempt at you know, like like
Speaker 1: any any operation that is about staying relevant or keeping
Speaker 1: interest of people that are watching, Like there will always
Speaker 1: be that moment like, oh, okay, you did all you
Speaker 1: didn't have to do that. But it's so weird to
Speaker 1: think because his whole presidency is you didn't have your
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing any of this. Um. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's like a moment where it becomes
Speaker 1: a little too much for everyone involved. I think I
Speaker 1: think he'll definitely have trouble like unifying the message and
Speaker 1: all the attention around himself like he did when he
Speaker 1: was the president. It's like still wild. Every time I
Speaker 1: think about the fact that like he was the president,
Speaker 1: still is the President's pretty wild. So that was like
Speaker 1: a big part of like the unprecedented just like fusion
Speaker 1: machine of like what was that could be? That could be? Alright? Um,
Speaker 1: I mean to be fair, like with the way the
Speaker 1: liberal media is, like Joe Biden has some pretty good ghostwriters.
Speaker 1: Trumput only a little pump because even I mean, would
Speaker 1: Weezy sign up for the for the clap back, you know,
Speaker 1: because he's already been like because there people speculating about
Speaker 1: that was a difference, like fifty didn't like Wheezy must
Speaker 1: have got a check since he posed and everything. So
Speaker 1: oh yeah, they all I think basically all of them
Speaker 1: got checks. Um. That was part of the strategy, which
Speaker 1: is just like the most condescending, shitty strategy. Your soul
Speaker 1: to another soulless peddler. Right, let's talk about Kelly Leffler.
Speaker 1: Is that how you pronounced? Yeah? Yeah, So she had
Speaker 1: a debate over the weekend that was I actually didn't
Speaker 1: watch I just saw the sort of ripples from it
Speaker 1: on social media. Most people did. Yeah yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: it seems like it was just a great uh performance
Speaker 1: of being just out of touch with reality. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: this joy just These runoff races are again the focal
Speaker 1: point of American politics because if the Democrats win both,
Speaker 1: then they can control the Senate, you know, and then
Speaker 1: you have Kamala Harris being the tie breaking vote as
Speaker 1: Mike Pence was um this last administration. So everyone's like,
Speaker 1: oh funk, what's going on there? You know John Ausoff
Speaker 1: and and David Purdue is one of the races where
Speaker 1: Perdue has been just thoroughly fucked up in like the
Speaker 1: debates before, while Austof has done really cool things to
Speaker 1: let progressives down by being like, I'm not really here
Speaker 1: to defund the police or medicare for really anyone, but um,
Speaker 1: so you know you have that going on. And David
Speaker 1: Purdue has now just declined to debate at all, like
Speaker 1: Ausof goes up against an empty podium now when they
Speaker 1: have debates. Kelly Leffler, on the other hand, she's she's
Speaker 1: got her head in the in the wall Street clouds
Speaker 1: or something. But because she still is debating Raphael Warnock
Speaker 1: in their race, And I just want to let you know,
Speaker 1: like for people who don't who follow like we you
Speaker 1: hear us say the name. You know, Kelly Leffler is
Speaker 1: under serious scrutiny right now for all of the stocks,
Speaker 1: like millions of dollars worth of stocks she dumped when
Speaker 1: she caught wind of the pandemic, hitting like she was
Speaker 1: briefed on it. And she goes around and instead of
Speaker 1: like cell cell cells, um, like you know, and got
Speaker 1: the jump on any other traders um. And just to
Speaker 1: keep another thing in mind, she's also I think the
Speaker 1: wealthiest senator ever and her husband is the chairman of
Speaker 1: the fucking New York Stock Exchange. This is this is
Speaker 1: the fucking group that we're dealing with when we talk
Speaker 1: about Kelly Leffler. So the absolute fucking rot that is,
Speaker 1: you know, the representatives in our government are just these
Speaker 1: corporate wealth hoarders who want to put a mask on
Speaker 1: and pretending they're a working person and be like, I'm
Speaker 1: fighting for you. So this debate, I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: thought she was gonna have do much of anything impressive
Speaker 1: because she's been on the stop to steal nonsense, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: So this one was just sort of like one of
Speaker 1: those moments where you just see like a person who
Speaker 1: I don't know, like she just took a handful of
Speaker 1: greed pills before she went on the stage, because her
Speaker 1: performance has no soul um and she lies so casually,
Speaker 1: um like like in a time when the fucking stakes
Speaker 1: could not be higher for her constituents or anyone in
Speaker 1: this country right now. So let's start off with um.
Speaker 1: This first moment where she's just they're they're asking her, Hey,
Speaker 1: which thing do you think Trump lost? And she pivots
Speaker 1: into socialism? Bad? Did you believe that the election was rigged? Look, Greg,
Speaker 1: it's very clear that there were issues in this election.
Speaker 1: There are two hundred and fifty investigations open, including an
Speaker 1: investigation into one of my opponents organizations, you know, for
Speaker 1: voter fraud. And we have to make sure that Georgian's
Speaker 1: trust this process because of what's at stake in this election.
Speaker 1: You know, the promise that Chuck Shumer made was to
Speaker 1: fundamental change America, and I'm making sure that we don't
Speaker 1: go down the road of socialism. Okay, so again, did
Speaker 1: the did the president lose socialism? But also you kind
Speaker 1: of you kind of winked there because you said everything's
Speaker 1: at stake, meaning that Trump isn't president, and if you
Speaker 1: lose the Senate, then the Libs will be drinking your tears,
Speaker 1: so to speak. So you know, but that's one way
Speaker 1: to put it. That. Moving on in the debate, what's
Speaker 1: kind of cool is that they get to ask each
Speaker 1: other questions, like rather than have a moderator do like
Speaker 1: there are moderators that ask questions, but also they can
Speaker 1: ask just pointed debate questions to each other. So, Raphael Warnock,
Speaker 1: you know a fucking a pastor who, by the way,
Speaker 1: Kelly Leffler has been to his church and sat with
Speaker 1: him on like MLK Day and things like that, while
Speaker 1: she also is like he's a radical, blah blah blah. Okay,
Speaker 1: check yourself, Kelly. Um. He asked her just sort of fundamentally,
Speaker 1: like you, where are your priorities at? And again, really
Speaker 1: not great answer from her. You dumped mill millions of
Speaker 1: dollars of stock in order to protect your own investments,
Speaker 1: and then weeks later, when there came an opportunity to
Speaker 1: give ordinary Georgians an extra six hundred dollars of relief,
Speaker 1: you said you saw no need and called it counterproductive.
Speaker 1: Why do you think it's counterproductive to help ordinary Jordan's
Speaker 1: in the middle of a pandemic? Well, thank you for
Speaker 1: that question, because I've been completely exonerated. Those are lies
Speaker 1: perpetrated by the left wing media and Democrats to distract
Speaker 1: from their radical agenda. Since I got to the Senate,
Speaker 1: I've worked hard to deliver relief to Georgians during this pandemic. Okay,
Speaker 1: So she goes on and just waffles, But yeah, right,
Speaker 1: that she was I don't know where that even came from,
Speaker 1: aside from literally just saying that out loud. David Purdue
Speaker 1: is also running ads saying he's been completely exonerated, Like dude,
Speaker 1: you're under investigation, Like there's not there's nothing even remotely
Speaker 1: resembling exoneration for you. So again very casually, Oh no,
Speaker 1: like just I don't know what this is, Like what's
Speaker 1: the indication is here? Like you get to a certain
Speaker 1: point where like you just know, like it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what I say, I just have to go up and
Speaker 1: if I don't get too fired up, I'll just lie
Speaker 1: and then everything's all good. The dead eyes are are noteworthy.
Speaker 1: We're we're actually sharing your screen and why and watching
Speaker 1: it and there there's just a like and a smile
Speaker 1: though on top of it, she has this like tight
Speaker 1: lips smile when he's asking the question and then she
Speaker 1: goes into the answer and like nothing changes from the
Speaker 1: nose up. It's just the eyes are like lifeless, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're just like quin when he's talking about the
Speaker 1: USS Indianapolis going down, dull lifeless eyes like a doll,
Speaker 1: like a dolls eyes. Yeah, it's there. I don't know
Speaker 1: speaking of the dolls eyes. I do have to say,
Speaker 1: she looks like they put a like extra large dolls
Speaker 1: hair on a extra medium person's like body. Her like
Speaker 1: it's it's not like her hair looks amazing. It's like
Speaker 1: very long and luscious, but it's just weird. It's like missized.
Speaker 1: It's like they like her wig. Her wig jumped to
Speaker 1: the shark. Her wig is it's very real housewives slash
Speaker 1: big little lies kind of hair where it's like wigs.
Speaker 1: And then lastly she has another moment where she again
Speaker 1: we're talking about accusations of fucking insider trading, okay, where
Speaker 1: someone is using their proximity to the decision making apparatus
Speaker 1: is apparatuses in this country to benefit themselves by using
Speaker 1: this knowledge, not to warn the constituents, but to warn
Speaker 1: her fucking stock portfolio managers how to get her money. Right. So,
Speaker 1: one of the moderators asked a very fair question, just
Speaker 1: straight up, you know, should fucking sitting people in Congress
Speaker 1: be allowed to trade stocks? Should members of Congress be
Speaker 1: barred from trading stocks? Look? Straight up, what's at stake
Speaker 1: here in this election is the American dream. That's what's
Speaker 1: under attack. When they attack me for a lie, a
Speaker 1: left wing media lie conspired with the Democrats. By this
Speaker 1: is an attack on every single Georgian who gets up
Speaker 1: every day to work hard to provide a better life
Speaker 1: for their family, that wants to live the American dream. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's what the fun that's brand on the American dream brand.
Speaker 1: Also like skips a couple of sentences and just like
Speaker 1: there's like an internal edit in the middle of that
Speaker 1: where like she just goes from one sentence to the
Speaker 1: next without any like it's like halfway through one sentence,
Speaker 1: she just moves to the next one. It's very uncanny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that is. Yeah, it's what all the Republicans and
Speaker 1: people now are taking notes from Trump and they're like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: turns out we don't actually we don't have to directly
Speaker 1: answer questions. Yeah, because I think of reality. Hey, guys, white,
Speaker 1: don't worry about me. I'm white. Don't worry about me.
Speaker 1: If just if I'm making money, don't worry about me.
Speaker 1: What's Raphael war knock up to the pastor of a church.
Speaker 1: Oh god, what what could he be doing? Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's this whole thing of Also this like paras social
Speaker 1: relationship to the billionaire class, like this fucked up class
Speaker 1: solidarity where they always disingenuously be like, I mean, they're
Speaker 1: trying to take my right to fucking skull fuck the
Speaker 1: stock market and you know, funck over working people. Um,
Speaker 1: that's an attack against y'all too. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you get that, poor people, they're coming for you too.
Speaker 1: If I can't fucking pillage and just take what you know,
Speaker 1: just completely manipulate my stocks with the information I have,
Speaker 1: that's an attack on you too. You also come on
Speaker 1: pull up for me. Mm hmm, Yeah, it's it's an
Speaker 1: attack on our ability to wake up and work. And
Speaker 1: her her decision to not react with policy to protect
Speaker 1: the people who she's supposed to be governing, but instead
Speaker 1: to react with uh, you know, protecting her own financial
Speaker 1: position is an attack. Pointing that out as an attack
Speaker 1: on can you imagine like any other situation, like you
Speaker 1: got caught cheating, like in a relationship, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you see, that's a seem to know, we're not doing
Speaker 1: that right now, because what you're doing is attacking the
Speaker 1: core values of this country, which is the freedom of choice. Okay,
Speaker 1: and I chose to sleep with that other person. Now
Speaker 1: if we're gonna go there, I mean, we might have
Speaker 1: this is a constitutional argument now, like and that's sort
Speaker 1: of the same disingenuous place they speak from all the
Speaker 1: time and are almost like they treat decency as absurdity,
Speaker 1: and like that's the thing now, and they are in
Speaker 1: a way they've they've effectively communicated that sentiment to a
Speaker 1: large group of people. So I want to talk about
Speaker 1: because I mean, like you were mentioning up top, she
Speaker 1: was one of you know at the time when Trump
Speaker 1: was saying, we know it's airborne, It's very scary. It's
Speaker 1: going to be like one of the biggest uh, you know,
Speaker 1: security problems that we faced as a country, and like
Speaker 1: decades when he was acknowledging that he knew that while
Speaker 1: saying to the public it's not as big a deal,
Speaker 1: she was getting that same information that it was going
Speaker 1: to be a massive health concern. Not doing anything and
Speaker 1: selling selling off her stocks, like she to reflect the
Speaker 1: information that she or to prove that she knew what
Speaker 1: was is actually happening in reality. So that is how
Speaker 1: US politicians, the people who are responsible for governing our
Speaker 1: state states are governing. I think that's a good sample
Speaker 1: of like how how you know, broadly, just the kind
Speaker 1: of intellectual corruption of the two parties that run America
Speaker 1: have affected the people and made it difficult to contain
Speaker 1: this virus. So do as I say, not as I do. Right,
Speaker 1: So Australia has a counter factual counterpoint to that example
Speaker 1: in Victoria, which is where the city Melbourne is located,
Speaker 1: and they were during the second Wave. They were the
Speaker 1: hardest hit state. It's case, numbers were dwarfing those in
Speaker 1: every other state, including New South Wales which is where
Speaker 1: Sydney is um And so their policymakers decided toy. They
Speaker 1: listened to a a bunch of experts who came up
Speaker 1: with this idea to what they were calling Gopher zero,
Speaker 1: which is just like it's just sorry to interrupt. I
Speaker 1: get aroused when I hear saying and they're listening to experts,
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, like fuck really wow, that's so hot. You're
Speaker 1: you know, you fucking acknowledge what you don't know? Sot
Speaker 1: in my veins. They were like, we tried flattening the curve,
Speaker 1: we tried slowing the spread. We feel like those you know,
Speaker 1: because you're trying to just muster public support around a
Speaker 1: thing that's sort of diffuse and ill defined. Uh, we're
Speaker 1: going to do this thing called Gopher zero. Uh. This
Speaker 1: involved a Stage four lockdown where most businesses were closed,
Speaker 1: There was a nightly curfew. Residents were ordered to stay
Speaker 1: within five kilometers of their home all for all of
Speaker 1: August and into September UM with the explicit goal of
Speaker 1: eventually reaching zero new cases. Now again, this is not
Speaker 1: some you know place that is known for just being obedient,
Speaker 1: and this is Australia. You know. They they're pretty rough
Speaker 1: and tumbleful convicts, right, they're all they don't funk with.
Speaker 1: It's not like they're just right like a lot of
Speaker 1: former English colonies. Some of us don't know how to act.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they wake up and salute the queen every morning. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is Australia. And so they set this goal. They
Speaker 1: established underlying components that were needed and provided strong social support.
Speaker 1: So they expanded testing including random pulled testing and testing
Speaker 1: for workers in essential industries, twenty four hour turnarounds for
Speaker 1: test results, contact tracing, mandatory isolation um and but most importantly,
Speaker 1: they made it easier for businesses and workers by providing
Speaker 1: subsidies to businesses to keep people employed by increasing their
Speaker 1: unemployment benefits. And the experts said, a system that relies
Speaker 1: on self isolation, in which people are unable or refused
Speaker 1: to self isolate, cannot succeed. So they enacted policies that
Speaker 1: made it so you had to isolate and do the
Speaker 1: things that were necessary to improve public safety. And for
Speaker 1: four weeks now they haven't seen a single new case
Speaker 1: of coronavirus for four weeks. They did the very difficult thing. Uh,
Speaker 1: and it's not complicated, it's it is difficult. It's hard.
Speaker 1: They had to make sacrifices. But the government stepped up
Speaker 1: and was like, Okay, we're going to cover the costs
Speaker 1: to your businesses, to you personally, We're going to cover
Speaker 1: those costs for the next two months so that thereafter
Speaker 1: we can get back to something approximating normal life. And
Speaker 1: now they're down at zero. Now they're you know, talking
Speaker 1: making decisions like well if a case, if a single
Speaker 1: case pops up, will we still have normal Christmas, like
Speaker 1: you know, shopping and all the things that you would
Speaker 1: expect there to be in any capitalist society. But they
Speaker 1: are starting from a place of zero new cases in
Speaker 1: the last four weeks. And yeah, I just think. I mean,
Speaker 1: the US government is actively choosing not to do the
Speaker 1: difficult things it would require to stop the pandemic. Like
Speaker 1: that's what that story tells me. They're not providing the
Speaker 1: economic safety net, they're not setting a goal for all
Speaker 1: Americans to follow a k leadership. Um. This would definitely
Speaker 1: be more challenging in the US since Australia is more
Speaker 1: politically homogeneous, But the US just isn't even trying. They're
Speaker 1: not even like beginning the process because yeah, because these
Speaker 1: solutions are just run diametrically opposed to how the American
Speaker 1: system has operated, which is sort of like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: help people sometimes, like let's be real, man, there's enough
Speaker 1: money here to be extracted out of the wherever that
Speaker 1: you should be able to bootstrap it the funk up
Speaker 1: the whole time. And this idea that like you have
Speaker 1: to come through and provide Yes, that's how you eliminate
Speaker 1: the need for people to even like have the reason
Speaker 1: to go outside. Like even like if you're debating someone,
Speaker 1: if someone's like, well heyo, man, get back in your house,
Speaker 1: and they say, well, I gotta get out here and work, man,
Speaker 1: I have no fucking choice. What do you want me
Speaker 1: to fucking do like not eat or get evictive. No,
Speaker 1: like I have to be out here. Then you would
Speaker 1: be like, okay, bet so, then what I have to
Speaker 1: do is figure out how you I can eliminate those
Speaker 1: pressures for you. So then I'll have to be like,
Speaker 1: oh is it that hard to stay at home? Your
Speaker 1: rent is paid for, I'm subsidizing your income. All you
Speaker 1: gotta do is stay the funk at home until this
Speaker 1: ship blows over. But we don't have that here. It's
Speaker 1: just like, hey, man, if if you can't, God bless
Speaker 1: stay at home. And if you can't, God bless man
Speaker 1: because it's rough out there and there's no there's no um.
Speaker 1: We just don't have like that real like duty to
Speaker 1: our citizens that most countries do in general. And what
Speaker 1: would be tough about implementing this now is people would
Speaker 1: be like, well, we already had a lockdown, why would
Speaker 1: we do this again? It didn't work the first time.
Speaker 1: But it's like Australia did like a legit lockdown, where
Speaker 1: we did like a half asked lockdown, But that's not
Speaker 1: going to get through to most people now at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the only way you could is if you
Speaker 1: really did both like like every money, Yeah, every other
Speaker 1: country got the picture. It's like, right, give them money.
Speaker 1: Stop the suck of bills and debts and things like that. That,
Speaker 1: unfortunately is like the heartbeat of America, which is sort
Speaker 1: of like, hey man, your debts are calling, so you
Speaker 1: better get out of bed. Take that away, and more
Speaker 1: people can focus on like oh right, oh wow, damn,
Speaker 1: it's like that they're actually paying me to stay home. Right,
Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna get They're going to get used to
Speaker 1: it though. That's we we have to fight communisms so
Speaker 1: much to the point that we can't even let people
Speaker 1: survive a pandemic by helping them pay for their life.
Speaker 1: Well we do a lockdown, because that that will be
Speaker 1: they have it too good. Yeah, it's definitely a very
Speaker 1: deep problem, uh, in the American psyche collectively. But it's
Speaker 1: the media. It's the politicians, like how the media covers
Speaker 1: the politicians and how the politicians lead, uh, that really
Speaker 1: is preventing this from happening. And even like when at
Speaker 1: the beginning we were saying, when looking at like the
Speaker 1: really shitty you know, when we were comparing other countries
Speaker 1: lockdown situations to our own very early on, and we're like,
Speaker 1: why are they reopening because like, even we're not economist,
Speaker 1: but you'd think the best version of a reopening situation
Speaker 1: is one in which you can reopen because you you
Speaker 1: have it under control, and being like any business owner,
Speaker 1: like it's dude, I can't just open up at with
Speaker 1: only like of the consumers out there. Like the version
Speaker 1: that's best for me is you get this ship in
Speaker 1: order and we can somewhat have some kind of same
Speaker 1: safety and movement that we did prior. Obviously with some
Speaker 1: you know edits here and there, But you think that
Speaker 1: at that point you can just tell the money it's
Speaker 1: it's gonna run smoother if you eliminate this and just
Speaker 1: go through the halting of everything for for the interim,
Speaker 1: but whatever, I gotta keep your money going, yeah, even
Speaker 1: if it's worse for the long run. That's the thing
Speaker 1: that seems like a real difference between America now. In
Speaker 1: America when it was supposedly great, like during World War Two,
Speaker 1: where they would like do rations and you know, make
Speaker 1: sacrifices in the short run for long term benefit, and
Speaker 1: now it seems like the government and the populists aren't
Speaker 1: like really down with them. But we'll see, all right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and
Speaker 1: talk about Pete Davidson. And we're back and let's talk
Speaker 1: about Staten Island, our Victoria, our Melbourne. Uh, Staten Island,
Speaker 1: s I n y. Yeah. You know, there's there's a
Speaker 1: bar there that's been getting a lot of attention. And
Speaker 1: this just comes off the heels of what we were
Speaker 1: just talking about with Australia, Like before we get into
Speaker 1: like laughing at like businesses that are staying open in
Speaker 1: the midst of a pandemic. I think it's always important
Speaker 1: to point out that, you know, the thwarting of these
Speaker 1: restrictions would would be a natural response for anyone when
Speaker 1: the government gives small businesses fucking no financial re courses
Speaker 1: whatsoever to stay afloat. You're like, well, then what do
Speaker 1: I Yes, people are going to try and stay open
Speaker 1: because they have to get money. I get that. So
Speaker 1: I just I'm always thinking of that in the back
Speaker 1: of my mind, is that we just have this barbaric
Speaker 1: way of handling the whole Yeah, but Miles, the thing
Speaker 1: is that the state of New York is only one
Speaker 1: of the largest economies on the planet, so there's no
Speaker 1: way they could fund the business like Victoria, the financial
Speaker 1: center of the globe, Victoria, Australia. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: like you know which, it's just so funny too, because
Speaker 1: for all these businesses that are like staying open, like
Speaker 1: they're just like one idea away from embracing socialism, because
Speaker 1: rather than being like, let me infect people with my business,
Speaker 1: it should be subsidize our lost revenue like you did
Speaker 1: for the fucking airlines. Why the funk does a corporation
Speaker 1: get the day off and I have to almost die
Speaker 1: every night. It's just it's just one if you were
Speaker 1: just like at the railway, you just have to pull
Speaker 1: the fucking thing to get the train, just to go
Speaker 1: the other way. You know, the energy is still there,
Speaker 1: it's just going to the wrong fucking station. When it
Speaker 1: should be like give us our fucking money rather than
Speaker 1: like let me kill so anyway, this pub it's called
Speaker 1: Max Public House in Staten Island, they've been the focal
Speaker 1: point of a lot of these like pandemic things. They
Speaker 1: declared themselves like an autonomous zone at a certain point
Speaker 1: to be like we are there for like sovereign businesses
Speaker 1: who don't abide by the laws of the land. Um,
Speaker 1: and they are the manager of this place. Was arrested
Speaker 1: again on Sunday night for opening and serving and like
Speaker 1: being cheeky and just being like no, I'm just people
Speaker 1: are coming in and I'm taking donations. Um. And that's
Speaker 1: what was going on, even though the donation is resembles
Speaker 1: the menu pricing. UM. So he this guy was arrested.
Speaker 1: He was also like when he was when they were
Speaker 1: attempting the arrest, he almost fucking like he hit a
Speaker 1: cop with his car and was like trying to flee.
Speaker 1: It was very intense, and Pete Davidson has like talked
Speaker 1: about it on Weekend Update, like just being like, look
Speaker 1: at these cry babies. You know, I thought like doing
Speaker 1: his whole thing, like talking about it and after this
Speaker 1: like arrest apparently this so there is a fucking press
Speaker 1: conference with a lawyer who came out just who goes
Speaker 1: by the name Mr Tobacco, and I wanted to address
Speaker 1: all the hate duration he's seen from thirty Rock. Uh,
Speaker 1: he knows who we know who he's talking about. To
Speaker 1: come at Pete Davidson even like evokes his dead father
Speaker 1: at a certain point. I'm just gonna play just check
Speaker 1: out again, imagine what a seedy guy who's proclaiming to
Speaker 1: be a lawyer who doesn't want to be named first
Speaker 1: of all, it was to just be known as Mr
Speaker 1: Tobacco is caping for these people in this culture war battle.
Speaker 1: That you have mega millionaires on the national spotlight like
Speaker 1: the folks on Saturday Night Live, um, and instead of
Speaker 1: making fun of their friends and the local business owners
Speaker 1: who are broke and crushed and bankrupt, instead of coming
Speaker 1: down here as fellow Staten Islanders and standing up for
Speaker 1: them and bringing a positive light to this thing, what
Speaker 1: they want to do is go on national TV and
Speaker 1: try to humiliate the little man when he's down. And
Speaker 1: to me, that's quite disgusting. And as I mentioned before,
Speaker 1: my dad was a member of the n y p D,
Speaker 1: the King of Staton Islands. Dad was a proud fireman
Speaker 1: and a great friend of mine. And I saw a
Speaker 1: Staton Islanders heavily come out and support him, his mom,
Speaker 1: his family and everyone else in a time of need
Speaker 1: after nine eleven when I cried for his father. So
Speaker 1: when I hear stuff like this, it hits me emotionally
Speaker 1: when I think, Wow, if you came out of your
Speaker 1: perch in your affluent neighborhood and came down here and
Speaker 1: told the liberal left this is a good thing because
Speaker 1: it's about all freedom and liberty. We probably wouldn't be
Speaker 1: standing here today talking about a political prisoner who was
Speaker 1: the victim of my view, a political ambush. Missed the tobacco,
Speaker 1: please missed the tobacco. Wow. He had the thing where,
Speaker 1: like you, you just had enough drinks to get a
Speaker 1: good performance out, but you had like a quartership too
Speaker 1: many where you start s learning a little bit like
Speaker 1: if you if you drink, you know that you have
Speaker 1: a drink bro just to see you know, we saw
Speaker 1: his father there, and I'm getting a little emotional, like
Speaker 1: the cadence was a little like could be great acting,
Speaker 1: could be a little bit of a little rum go
Speaker 1: before going out there. But this idea of like again,
Speaker 1: we're seeing the thing where he's like, these businesses are
Speaker 1: being crushed by who by her? From? What What is
Speaker 1: the situation in which that allowed for the crush Because
Speaker 1: on some level they do know that people are being
Speaker 1: adversely affective. But it's got to fucking connect the next
Speaker 1: dot you fuck, it's not Pete Davidson laughing at you
Speaker 1: at the fucking government has absolutely turned their back on people.
Speaker 1: That's what it is, right. He immediately couches it as
Speaker 1: like a question of liberty and that, but yeah, it's
Speaker 1: again we're just trying to how do we go that
Speaker 1: next step because it yes, you're so caught up in
Speaker 1: this language of freedom or liberty, but there it's absolutely
Speaker 1: and like it's too abstract that the government would have
Speaker 1: any hand in ensuring their well being as American citizens.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we've talked before about how in
Speaker 1: other countries they view the apotheosis of America as the
Speaker 1: gangster because they just you know, strong armed people get
Speaker 1: get the money they need. And this dude, definitely uh
Speaker 1: is given off mobbed up vibes. And I think Americans
Speaker 1: like there there's a big portion of America that would
Speaker 1: rather be corrupt than like socialist. For I meant, whether
Speaker 1: that's true or whether that's just like part of the
Speaker 1: like central myth of America. I feel like the the
Speaker 1: idea that you know, Mr Tobacco is more American than uh,
Speaker 1: somebody who's trying to unionize truly, And it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: because all of our stories aren't about helping each other
Speaker 1: or helping others. All the stories of America in history
Speaker 1: about kicking someone's ass. Who fucking wants it? The fucking Brits, bro,
Speaker 1: I'll kick your ass. The fucking Slavers, Bro. You get
Speaker 1: your ass kicked. The Nazis. You're fucking done, bro. Like,
Speaker 1: it's never like who needs it? The like? People who
Speaker 1: are handy capable, Like do we need the like? Actually
Speaker 1: subsidize better lives for them, the working poor, the invisible homeless, Like,
Speaker 1: it's never it's just about ass kicking. It's never about
Speaker 1: fucking embracing. So yeah, like it. It totally makes sense
Speaker 1: that we're always just to funking like, well, who's winning? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Well here's the deal. We're all losing. Actually, so how
Speaker 1: about that? All right, and let's do a quick update
Speaker 1: on the Havana syndrome. Shout out to Zeitgang. Can't name
Speaker 1: all of the people who for this article to me,
Speaker 1: but every time a new new development happens, it gets
Speaker 1: brought to my attention. I appreciate you' all. So The
Speaker 1: New York Times, a bunch of mainstream media outlets m
Speaker 1: MPR wrote about this new report from nineteen experts those
Speaker 1: commissioned by the State Department, and they're interpreting it as
Speaker 1: a pretty firm declaration that the Havana syndrome was the
Speaker 1: result of a malicious attack with directed microwaves. The report
Speaker 1: itself doesn't really say that. They basically say that that
Speaker 1: is possible and the most likely scenario, while also making
Speaker 1: room for the possibility that it's psychosomatic. The symptoms are,
Speaker 1: you know, the things that their interpretation of the report,
Speaker 1: because I haven't read all like sixty pages of the report,
Speaker 1: but the thing that their interpretation of the report leaves
Speaker 1: out is like how diffuse the symptoms are. There's like
Speaker 1: this diplomat in China who supposedly experienced the same thing,
Speaker 1: but he like heard marbles dropping on the floor above him,
Speaker 1: whereas all the people in Cuba heard like a high
Speaker 1: pitched wine. Uh it's so, which um summary of what diserence?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, So I just like launched into this
Speaker 1: assuming alright, so what marbles. It's a really good point,
Speaker 1: Thank you, Alison. So the Vena syndrome is basically a
Speaker 1: bunch of diplomats in Havana from two thousand sixteen to
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen started like hearing weird noises and then
Speaker 1: suffering symptoms of like uh, nausea, confusion, forgetfulness, some of
Speaker 1: them like lost their balance for like prolonged periods, and
Speaker 1: they speculated that they were the victims of like a
Speaker 1: targeted attack, and it started spreading. They were like, you know,
Speaker 1: forty of them in the Havana location. This led to
Speaker 1: the Trump administration pulling diplomats out of Cuba. Um. A
Speaker 1: lot of them are also like CIA agents who were
Speaker 1: like undercover as diplomats. But basically the weapons that they
Speaker 1: described in the first place are not possible via physics,
Speaker 1: Like there's no way to do a sound wave thing
Speaker 1: like and not only that, but like scientists like don't
Speaker 1: think that you could cause the problems that they're describing
Speaker 1: with sound waves. And the more that people have reported
Speaker 1: on it, the more there's a very plausible case that
Speaker 1: it is in fact like psychosomatic um and that basically,
Speaker 1: you know, they were in new environments. For instance, they
Speaker 1: recorded the sound that they thought was making it that
Speaker 1: was coming from the weapon, and biologists were like, that's
Speaker 1: actually just a type of cricket that's only in Cuba
Speaker 1: that you've never heard before. So they were hearing weird
Speaker 1: sounds feeling weird ways. Um. And the question is whether,
Speaker 1: like the actual physical symptoms we're psychosomatic, or whether they
Speaker 1: were caused by what the State Department is now speculating
Speaker 1: our microwave weapons. And they're pretty clearly connecting it to Russia.
Speaker 1: They're like, Russia has experimented with these before. Um, but nobody,
Speaker 1: like a lot of countries have have experimented with trying
Speaker 1: to create microwave weapons that are untraceable like these up
Speaker 1: here to be uh and can be targeted like this,
Speaker 1: and people like don't even get beyond the initial testing phase.
Speaker 1: It's just not a thing that scientists think is feasible. Um.
Speaker 1: So the New York Times, uh So, here's a here's
Speaker 1: a quote from the New New York Times article. They say,
Speaker 1: though couched in careful scientific language, the new report reveals
Speaker 1: strong evidence that the incidents were the result of a
Speaker 1: malicious attack. It attributes the illness too directed and pulsed
Speaker 1: rather than continuous energy, implying that the victim's exposure was
Speaker 1: targeted and not the result of more common sources of
Speaker 1: microwave energy such as cell phones. Um. But that's that's
Speaker 1: like a very specific interpretation of the events. Like that
Speaker 1: they basically went looking for a imaginary weapon that could
Speaker 1: possibly explain these symptoms and came up with these microwave
Speaker 1: weapons again that no U. S. Scientists is aware of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't exist. So I think that we probably underestimate
Speaker 1: how open the New York Times and like our national
Speaker 1: media are to being influenced by government, you know, either
Speaker 1: propaganda or the CIA, like false information being planned by
Speaker 1: the CIA, even in stories that don't involve the CIA,
Speaker 1: and the story directly involves the CIA. So I get
Speaker 1: the sense that that's what's happening here, is that the
Speaker 1: CIA and the State Department are like leaning on your
Speaker 1: New York's Times and uh mprs to kind of take
Speaker 1: this very specific interpretation make it seem like, okay, so
Speaker 1: nobody was imagining anything. Um, it's a very I think
Speaker 1: the whole way it's being covered severely under rates like
Speaker 1: the strangeness and is a goal reality of the placebo
Speaker 1: effect and you know, the possibility that psychosomatic illnesses are real,
Speaker 1: they actually have manifestations in the body. It's not nobody's
Speaker 1: making anything up. They're experiencing the symptoms. It's just the
Speaker 1: cause of the symptoms is not some outside like laser beam.
Speaker 1: It's in fact the fact that they had heard there
Speaker 1: was an outside laser beam those targeting them hurt a
Speaker 1: weird noise, and we're experiencing a lot of symptoms that
Speaker 1: come along with like aging, like you know, forgetfulness and
Speaker 1: less energy and um, loss of equilibrium. Those are all
Speaker 1: things that happened with aging. UM. So I don't like
Speaker 1: in reading this, I am no more convinced that it
Speaker 1: is an actual, like sci fi weapon that we don't
Speaker 1: know about. I think that version is very interesting, and
Speaker 1: like I hope to find evidence that really suggests that
Speaker 1: that is what's happening here. I just like haven't seen
Speaker 1: it in any of the reporting on on the examinations.
Speaker 1: And then the other option I think is equally interesting
Speaker 1: and is being discounted as like just I think people
Speaker 1: like one of the most overlooked mysteries in our day
Speaker 1: to day lives is the power of the human mind
Speaker 1: to cause physical changes in the body, like the placebo
Speaker 1: effect is something that all scientists have to acknowledge that,
Speaker 1: like the color of a pill you take before bedtime
Speaker 1: affects how your body goes to sleep, the ability of
Speaker 1: Placebo's to affect someone's recovery from surgery like that it
Speaker 1: changes our body in ways that like doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: it should be possible. And it's also like a limit
Speaker 1: of the scientific method because like anything that is regards
Speaker 1: the human mind like that is limited by the Heisenberg
Speaker 1: principle of like being able to observe it. By observing it,
Speaker 1: you're changing how it actually functions. And so it's like
Speaker 1: the the idea that this central scientific mystery could cause
Speaker 1: like a world war is like kind of uh, just
Speaker 1: as big a mind fuck as the idea that Russia
Speaker 1: has like some secret sci fi weapon that they're hiding
Speaker 1: from us um or just is there anything to the
Speaker 1: Like the way they're even contextualizing it is like completely
Speaker 1: like sort of eliminated the possibilities that it could be,
Speaker 1: like because they're just very myopically looking at like certain
Speaker 1: well they so they made it, made the possibility of
Speaker 1: psychosmatic um psychological like causes possible in their early days,
Speaker 1: and like that's always been something that's being considered, but
Speaker 1: the people who suffered it are really like rail against
Speaker 1: that and are really pissed and feel like they're being abandoned,
Speaker 1: Like there's a whole movement of people who were tired
Speaker 1: because these injuries and are like you're leaving us out
Speaker 1: to dry, You're calling us crazy, and that's not what
Speaker 1: that means in any case. And yeah, there's just it's
Speaker 1: a it's a very complicated again, like the anytime you're
Speaker 1: dealing with a illness with a psychological cause, like just
Speaker 1: the suggestion of that is kind of puts you in
Speaker 1: this mind fuck quandary of like, well by saying that
Speaker 1: that's the cause, then that affects the psyche of the
Speaker 1: person for whom that is true, and therefore, you know,
Speaker 1: it just like keeps going down this weird reflexive rabbit
Speaker 1: hole that is kind of impossible to deal with. So
Speaker 1: it's like this fissure in the scientific method like that
Speaker 1: we are seeing like kind of open up a little
Speaker 1: bit and get more attention to the point that it
Speaker 1: could cause heightened tensions with Russia, which is always scary.
Speaker 1: So pretty they just need some Palo Santo. I think
Speaker 1: that might be where we're at. I think, yeah, the
Speaker 1: CIA is notoriously underutilizes Paulo Santo. Another uh smudging and
Speaker 1: energy Jackson I flooded the streets of silver Lake, Paulo Santo. Man,
Speaker 1: you don't know, man, you don't get the hipsters. Bro.
Speaker 1: That's right, trying to keep us distract holding crystals and
Speaker 1: now looking at socialism, you know what I mean, looking
Speaker 1: at social media? Yeah, and not socialism. Uh shout out
Speaker 1: to Natalie Shure, who continues to be very interesting to
Speaker 1: read on this subject. And uh yeah, if anybody has
Speaker 1: interesting you know, I've read the I've read this straightforward
Speaker 1: like mainstream media articles. But if you're seeing people who
Speaker 1: have interesting takes or other interpretations or pieces of evidence
Speaker 1: that I'm missing that point to it having a physical origin, like,
Speaker 1: please hit me up on social because this is not
Speaker 1: a thing where I'm like, I've made up my mind.
Speaker 1: I think no matter what is going on, this is
Speaker 1: so interesting. Um yeah, yeah, fellow Havannah Truthers, the Havannah Knights,
Speaker 1: but with a can Yeah yeah, dang that would that
Speaker 1: would be an NBA team right now in an alternate history, Alison,
Speaker 1: where can people find you and follow you? And what's
Speaker 1: a tweet or some other work of social media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying. I can be found on Twitter at just
Speaker 1: about glad. And also if you have an audible subscription,
Speaker 1: you can listen to my Audible original like Mother starring
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Speaker 1: pretty h it's intimidating. That's not your mom, right? She
Speaker 1: not in real life? I was like, I missed something.
Speaker 1: Is Alison's mom Susie askem Alison Muse in the stage
Speaker 1: name mom? Can you do a podcast with memin to
Speaker 1: the podcast? No, she plays my mom though show. So
Speaker 1: that's very cool. Check it out. Man love Susie is.
Speaker 1: It's cool to work with her? Yeah, very cool. She's
Speaker 1: like very funny. Yeah, I can only imagine. And Okay,
Speaker 1: here's a funny tweet that I liked from Nick nimurrof
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Speaker 1: world one tweet at a time, Miles, where can people
Speaker 1: find you in? What the tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? Twitter?
Speaker 1: Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also other podcasts for Twenty
Speaker 1: Day Fiancee and Twitter. I haven't nothing. I haven't been
Speaker 1: on so some media recently, so unfortunately I will I
Speaker 1: will defer to you. Yeah yeah, um all right. A
Speaker 1: couple of tweets I've been enjoying. Uh. Jason Arducy that
Speaker 1: can't be his real name, Split single band or Ducci
Speaker 1: uh tweeted retweeted a headline that we actually didn't talk about.
Speaker 1: On today's episode, Giuliani brates reporters for questioning election claims,
Speaker 1: saying I know crimes. I can smell them, and Jason
Speaker 1: said not anymore, uh because he has COVID. UH. Garmer
Speaker 1: four at Fourth Dog tweeted, I keep thinking about this
Speaker 1: and it's a screen cap of a post on our
Speaker 1: physics on Reddit that says what to do if I
Speaker 1: have theories? And then in the comments, I contacted a
Speaker 1: college and they ignored me. Yo University. I got theories?
Speaker 1: U c l A hold on he can I got theories?
Speaker 1: Man about some physics could up end everything we know?
Speaker 1: And then Ben Acker tweeted, there should be a part
Speaker 1: between dreams and wake up where your brain has to
Speaker 1: explain what it was going for. Uh, notes Sessionion a
Speaker 1: little sweaty brain, but can tell me why were you
Speaker 1: fighting underwater? Why were you and your bull fighting underwater? Yeah? Um? Anyways,
Speaker 1: you can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as the song we ride out on Miles.
Speaker 1: What are we riding out on today? Oh? Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: they're not doesn't need to be a lot of wordplay,
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