Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has been waiting all day
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Speaker 1: Around the NFL. I am Dan Hansis, and I have heroes,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler. It is yes, hard to believe,
Speaker 1: the tenth season for the Around the NFL Podcast covering
Speaker 1: our league, and it all starts right here in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, with the Week one flagship show. Mark
Speaker 1: pinch yourself, baby. I have been pinching myself all day,
Speaker 1: which is was weird. I thought, well, just just saw
Speaker 1: these sounds of like, oh oh, Mark, I'd like him
Speaker 1: from the corner. It was a lot. I enjoy it
Speaker 1: the way I want to. I was studying Mark very
Speaker 1: closely today Greg, as you know, Uh, this is the
Speaker 1: first Sunday of football where Mark's not a Browns fan,
Speaker 1: or so we're being supposedly. So we're going to get
Speaker 1: into that. We're going to get into the the drama
Speaker 1: of Week one, a lot of great dishes, a nice
Speaker 1: start to regular season. But before we get to that,
Speaker 1: let's get to what I thought was maybe the big
Speaker 1: statement of Week one. Let us head to the desert,
Speaker 1: Hardman and Dyer in the back build. At the same
Speaker 1: time they shuttle touchdown Chancehalls City two drives two touchdowns
Speaker 1: a play they love to run to Kelsey, they go
Speaker 1: to Clyde Edwards Hilaire and the Chiefs are on fire
Speaker 1: in this first quarter of the season. Well said by
Speaker 1: Mitch Holt is we're gonna all our friends are coming back.
Speaker 1: Mitch Holt, this is back with us w d A
Speaker 1: F No Tyreek Hill, no problem for Patrick Mahomes, who
Speaker 1: threw for three sixty and five touchdowns in the Chiefs
Speaker 1: over the Cardinals in Arizona, Mark We all felt confident
Speaker 1: in Andy Reid's ability to move forward without Hill, one
Speaker 1: of the best playmakers ever, by the way, but it
Speaker 1: was surprising how immediate and insanely successful they were right
Speaker 1: out of the shoot. I mean, you can look at
Speaker 1: this game. I think in two ways. One the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are I think, way better than we would have even expected,
Speaker 1: and their new offense looks dashing. Or the Cardinals are
Speaker 1: a hot, gigantic roaming dissolving mess. Um. I am giving
Speaker 1: the credit here to the Chiefs because was at the
Speaker 1: first roaming dissolving mess of the season. Yeah, John the box.
Speaker 1: I just thought Patrick Mahomes. I mean, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: almost a tiresome exercise to try to describe Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: when he's playing this way. But the offense, which had
Speaker 1: gone through a transition, it was this whole business like
Speaker 1: can they possibly mask the loss of Tyreek Hill? They
Speaker 1: look better to me? And I know they're playing a
Speaker 1: terrible defense that's compromised at cornerback, but he played a
Speaker 1: nearly perfect first half. I mean, they could have put
Speaker 1: up way more points than they did a few little
Speaker 1: things hadn't happened to them. They lost Harrison Butcker, their
Speaker 1: kicker for part of the game. Um, he looked like
Speaker 1: he was severely injured. And then he came back too,
Speaker 1: So they dodged that bullet. But I think if you
Speaker 1: watched this offense, they're using a lot of two tight
Speaker 1: three tight end sets um. Their running game to me,
Speaker 1: looks much more vibrant. I think that's been maybe one
Speaker 1: thing in the last couple of seasons where the run
Speaker 1: game they didn't really have a classic lead guy and
Speaker 1: sometimes didn't seem to come together. I did today. I
Speaker 1: think Clyde Edwards Selaire looked as good as I've seen
Speaker 1: him look Uh, the wide receiver situation, They're fine, They're fine.
Speaker 1: I just think this this is the Andy Reid one
Speaker 1: game in you have to say they completely succeeded so far.
Speaker 1: I'll t you up like this, because we went into
Speaker 1: the Sunday saying, you know, Mahomes and Rogers to the
Speaker 1: Greats are entering this season with new supporting casts, with
Speaker 1: big changes with the Hall of Fame receiver leaving the
Speaker 1: building and Mahomes and he's your MVP picks, So I
Speaker 1: know you're feeling good about this. Did not miss a
Speaker 1: beat and that's a credit of course to him, but
Speaker 1: also Andy Reid. Yeah, you were saying, you know, Andy
Speaker 1: Reid doesn't get the credit, and you know that he's
Speaker 1: the one cooking up all those grandfather right, He's the
Speaker 1: one who's doing the Belichick what we think Bow Belichick
Speaker 1: should be doing in the offseason. Not that he's not
Speaker 1: doing it too, but he's not doing on like this.
Speaker 1: And it's not just Okay, we're gonna come up with
Speaker 1: these crazy passing plays. It's the running plays where I
Speaker 1: think they get the most creative, and they're using the
Speaker 1: athleticism of their offensive lineman like the big like run
Speaker 1: game type of dorks. And I'm saying this finally a
Speaker 1: guy I think of Chris brown On on Twitter, who
Speaker 1: does smart football. He's noticing how they're doing these like
Speaker 1: power shovel plays at the goal line with their fullbacks,
Speaker 1: which is like taking it all the way back to
Speaker 1: like New Rockney Clark Shaughnessy, like old the old style football,
Speaker 1: but before you even knew what the passing game was.
Speaker 1: And if you can mix a little bit of that
Speaker 1: and the passing game and the brilliance of Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 1: feeling like, Okay, you guys are sleeping on me a
Speaker 1: little bit. This is what you get. Thirty three first
Speaker 1: downs in sixties six plays. I know this is the
Speaker 1: first game, but we will not have a better stat
Speaker 1: in this entire show than that. That is outrageous. I've
Speaker 1: never heard such a thing. Yeah, And Clyde Edwards Hilaire
Speaker 1: is a guy that I know fantasy owners have been
Speaker 1: frustrated because as a former first round pick, he was
Speaker 1: supposed to be an unstoppable chess piece when they brought
Speaker 1: him into the team two years ago, and he kind
Speaker 1: of faded out of the game plan by the end
Speaker 1: of last season. But the way he was being deployed here. Yes,
Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster hits the ground running productive, Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: as dominant as ever. So, yes, the Chiefs are humming.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are gonna be okay, and a reminder that
Speaker 1: they should be seen as the favorite in the a
Speaker 1: f C West. On the other side of the ball here, uh, cessy,
Speaker 1: you know, there's some lipstick on the pig here with
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's numbers. But it was ugly. It was ugly
Speaker 1: all the way around. The offense all right, maybe they
Speaker 1: got put in a bad spot, but the defense wasn't
Speaker 1: even competitive. Well, the defense looks awful. I mean they
Speaker 1: go watch how wide open Chiefs targets are. I mean
Speaker 1: there's there's multiple plays where there's no one around them
Speaker 1: and they and they got They're already bad at cornerback.
Speaker 1: They lost a cornerback in early on the game and
Speaker 1: Byron Murphy. I I don't even know if he came back,
Speaker 1: but it didn't matter. They were just they did not play.
Speaker 1: And on offense, it's like, first of all, I don't
Speaker 1: want to overreact to this one week, but I think
Speaker 1: they have some real issues. Uh, you don't have DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: We get that you lost Rondel Moore days ago. They
Speaker 1: don't really have. They just looked discombobulated to me. And
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray, I mean, when he's good, he's good,
Speaker 1: but I thought that you he missed a bunch of
Speaker 1: wide open guys today. And something that's going on with
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray is his I think he just sometimes maybe
Speaker 1: doesn't see the field. He was also under Darrest a bunch.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a messy, messy outing. And
Speaker 1: after this whole journey where we've resigned the coach, we've
Speaker 1: resigned the GM, we extended the quarterback. Thinking this is
Speaker 1: the vision, this is the offense that you want to say.
Speaker 1: You know, it's the NFC version where Andy Reiden go
Speaker 1: cook it up, but soaking Cliff Kingsbury. That was the
Speaker 1: whole concept here, and they just to me looked like
Speaker 1: they picked up where they left off, which was not
Speaker 1: a good place. What did you say in the news room,
Speaker 1: They should they should just surprise everyone and give another extensions,
Speaker 1: change the narrative, just keep on handing out extensions because
Speaker 1: you're in deep now. The Big Wills and the entire
Speaker 1: Cardinals organization, they were so convinced of being right about
Speaker 1: this QB, this coach and this GM that they were
Speaker 1: handing out money like it was. It was. But it's
Speaker 1: also like every all the concerns that we had about
Speaker 1: the Cardinals how last year ended. Also, you know how
Speaker 1: no defenses throughout Patrick Mahomes's career has blitzed them at all,
Speaker 1: because it's like poison. Uh. Today they decided to try
Speaker 1: to flip the script in Arizona. They were the first
Speaker 1: team in Patrick Mahomes's career to blitz them more than
Speaker 1: half of the snaps that did not work out well,
Speaker 1: it did not farewell for them. How many how many? Uh,
Speaker 1: of all three of us, how many it's week ones
Speaker 1: are we gonna hear it? Okay, but it's fair, it's fair.
Speaker 1: Everything needs to be kept in that mindset because the preseasons,
Speaker 1: you know what it is. Now, it's gonna take time
Speaker 1: for these teams. But the Cardinals, clearly we're not ready.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Justin Reid, by the way, who replaced
Speaker 1: Harrison Butker as place kicker for the Chiefs for in
Speaker 1: the first half and when one of two pt s
Speaker 1: and blasted a kickoff out of the end zone. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I think he's remarkable. It's not the first person you
Speaker 1: can think of a safety as your backup kicker, but
Speaker 1: the first p a t He nailed it out. He
Speaker 1: could be He could be a kickoff specialist. The Colts
Speaker 1: could have used him today. That was the greatest show
Speaker 1: of athleticism I've seen so far this season. All right,
Speaker 1: so Chiefs rolling cards, hurting, Let's check in. Oh, I
Speaker 1: also locked this up. By the way, when you lock
Speaker 1: it so, you don't even want to sweat it, you
Speaker 1: just want to see it's a nice one. You want
Speaker 1: to see. We did. We all did very nice for
Speaker 1: the most part. Everyone. So the Chiefs already set up
Speaker 1: for a huge TNF matchup with an a f C
Speaker 1: West rival this week, and that rival was playing the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Let's get into that game. Shotgun snap looking right, car
Speaker 1: clops a pocket hit crap that he has dropped. The
Speaker 1: ball is up and the charger's habit. Let's chargers have it.
Speaker 1: Showey Bosta Khalil Mac it was a Khalil Max strit sack.
Speaker 1: You heard it there, Matt Money Smith, Daniel Jeremiah k
Speaker 1: y s Are Khalil Max sack fumble of Derek Carr
Speaker 1: on fourth down near midfield was the difference for the Chargers,
Speaker 1: who jumped out to a fast start and held on
Speaker 1: to defeat the Raiders nineteen at Sophi Stadium. Listen, did
Speaker 1: I think that the Chargers We're gonna charge that thing
Speaker 1: up at the end? Yeah? I had. I had some
Speaker 1: serious doubts about Los Angeles ability to close that game out,
Speaker 1: and yet Derek Carr just wasn't gonna let it happen.
Speaker 1: Because this is one of those games with car where
Speaker 1: you start to think, jeez, all the all the criticisms
Speaker 1: that he gets, and they will be pushed back from
Speaker 1: Raider fans or people in the family or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But he put the ball on the ground. He threw
Speaker 1: three interceptions, and I think if they get better quarterback
Speaker 1: playing this game, they do steal it from the Chargers,
Speaker 1: who were were voll able by the end of this game.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not really his thing to make mistakes
Speaker 1: like that. What what were they about? Were they mental
Speaker 1: errors where that the past rush is getting to him
Speaker 1: because Cleio Mac had a day, maybe he just started
Speaker 1: getting a little frantic. It was. I think maybe he
Speaker 1: seemed a little scattered in this game, and it wasn't uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't terrible. He did, for instance, connect
Speaker 1: with Davante Adams repeatedly. Adams had ten catches for a
Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards, forty one yards and a touchdown
Speaker 1: on seventeen targets. So you know, I think this is
Speaker 1: again the week one side of this. It's gonna take
Speaker 1: some time to calibrate this thing and find ways to
Speaker 1: keep Darren Waller involved, to have Hunter Renfro involved. Remember
Speaker 1: how important Renfro was today while they're at a good game,
Speaker 1: four for seventy nine after contract over the weekend. By
Speaker 1: the way, I think with with car you kind of
Speaker 1: saw that, um perhaps maybe he's trying to figure out
Speaker 1: how he wants to do this. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: he got mixed up a little bit of this game.
Speaker 1: I think he got putting a blender and he made
Speaker 1: mistakes that they cost him this game. I mean that's
Speaker 1: two fumbles that he had. Also they were lucky and
Speaker 1: fortunate not to lose them, but one of them, when
Speaker 1: we were watching this together, it was the classic, just
Speaker 1: holding the ball too long and allowing the pressure to
Speaker 1: find him. I mean, he was getting he was he
Speaker 1: was running around back there. I think this one note
Speaker 1: beyond the fact that the Chargers we were wondering and
Speaker 1: almost gave this game away. The defensive parts like Khalil
Speaker 1: Mack looked like he looked great today and and that's big.
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what we were gonna get from
Speaker 1: Kalil mc Necessarily over the course of the season, we'll
Speaker 1: see three sacks, four QB hits, right he fits in
Speaker 1: this defense. Brandon Stilly went and got Hi because he
Speaker 1: knows who he is and right away he was the
Speaker 1: difference in this game. And Keenan Allen went out of
Speaker 1: this game with the hamstring early. Uh, and that was
Speaker 1: you know, we'll keep an eye on that because Alan
Speaker 1: is such an important part of what the Chargers do.
Speaker 1: But you had a guy like DeAndre Carter who stepped
Speaker 1: in and he scores a touchdown. He has another big conversion,
Speaker 1: he goes three for sixty four. Gerald Everett carries in
Speaker 1: um a Raiders defender backing into the end zone for
Speaker 1: another touchdown. That was a crazy play. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: think Herbert played a Herbert game. He starts out his
Speaker 1: season very well, mistake free football and in front of
Speaker 1: a lot of Raiders fans Exame was played across the
Speaker 1: street from us UH the Chargers, and we've talked about
Speaker 1: this with the Rams too. You could tell they they
Speaker 1: figured out how we play in our own building. Now
Speaker 1: it's different than most stadiums, it's different than most teams
Speaker 1: have to deal with. But they took care of business.
Speaker 1: Is a nice way for the Charges to start the
Speaker 1: season because we've seen it too often where they find
Speaker 1: a game like this and it goes away, goes the
Speaker 1: wrong way, and then when they missed the playoffs by
Speaker 1: a game, you're like, oh, what about that week one? Well,
Speaker 1: and they've got the Chiefs next week. You couldnot let
Speaker 1: this one slip away and go in deal with Kansas
Speaker 1: City at oh and one, right, and they you think
Speaker 1: about the difference in that Kansas City game, for instance,
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna be without Keenan Allen, and so now
Speaker 1: you can afford maybe to do that because Herbert's at
Speaker 1: the point where he's making guys better. But I'm a
Speaker 1: little worried about a situation no one had more than
Speaker 1: four targets on this team where it's like DeAndre Carter,
Speaker 1: Trey McKitty had three catches, Xander or Vath had a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I'm just making up names here,
Speaker 1: Whereas Palm, you know, Josh Palmer and Mike Williams, the
Speaker 1: guys you expected didn't do much of anything. On the
Speaker 1: flip side of Mac was the Raiders big acquisition Chandler Jones, who,
Speaker 1: from at least what I read, I gotta watch this closely.
Speaker 1: Uh Ray Shawn Slater shut down pretty well throughout the game.
Speaker 1: They're they're great in this. I like this Tray mckittie.
Speaker 1: I think that's I don't know if that's a real name,
Speaker 1: but that's like a Sessler named Xander Horrorveth also felt
Speaker 1: like Assessler there is there is a tendency for, you know,
Speaker 1: to get on the quarterback too much and then not
Speaker 1: bring up the offensive line, and I think that was
Speaker 1: a issue in this game so well. He was sacked
Speaker 1: six times car and UM Vegas was shifting around their unit.
Speaker 1: I used three different uh combinations UM in their offensive
Speaker 1: line trying to find that stability. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: this is a their work in progress. They have the
Speaker 1: Cardinals next week, so that's a team. Depending how you
Speaker 1: look at it, you know that you're either getting the
Speaker 1: Cardinals at a time or the worst time, But that
Speaker 1: becomes an important game for the Raiders because you know
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna be often running this one quick question,
Speaker 1: like Josh McDaniels, did you notice Josh McDaniels esque elements
Speaker 1: to the offense? Was it was just a lot of
Speaker 1: focus on Davontadas because the run, the ground game did
Speaker 1: not did Number one. I can't give you a real
Speaker 1: take on the Josh McDaniels ask uh flare to the offense.
Speaker 1: All I could tell you is that it didn't do much.
Speaker 1: They didn't do enough shots. Did he seem as agitated
Speaker 1: and or fired up as he was at points of
Speaker 1: his Broncos career. You know what, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: go back and watch the Josh McDaniels sideline shots as well.
Speaker 1: We didn't, So we didn't. We're putting a lot of
Speaker 1: heat on We didn't help you out there with questions.
Speaker 1: Let's now, So those are two like games that are interesting.
Speaker 1: So you have the Chiefs making a huge statement, the
Speaker 1: Cardinals laying an egg, the Chargers refusing to Charger, and
Speaker 1: the Raiders that there are a lot of hype stumbling
Speaker 1: out of the Gates. But now let's get to something fun.
Speaker 1: Let's get to a crazy ending. Sorry grave Digger, go
Speaker 1: to Nashville. Jones takes the snap, rolls right, shovel pass
Speaker 1: for Barkley Parkley in to the two point conversion all
Speaker 1: a little shovel past his sake one and then he
Speaker 1: did the rest, taking on defenders and a giant house
Speaker 1: the League twenty with one oh six A goo that's
Speaker 1: playing the win Bob ha Yes it is Bob Papa
Speaker 1: and Carl Banks with the call w F A N
Speaker 1: Hey you know what that? Hey, this is Carl Rigo
Speaker 1: park I'll tell you what there, Jean Table and Joe Judge.
Speaker 1: One guy plays to win, one guy doesn't play at all.
Speaker 1: I'll hang up and listen. It's also not wrong that
Speaker 1: call Daniel Jones and a one yard touchdown past Chris
Speaker 1: me arc. And it was followed by that gutsy two
Speaker 1: point conversion by I don't care if it's if it's
Speaker 1: my arc, it's ARC. Understand you're taking editorial, you know,
Speaker 1: freeweight freebees with that, but I don't approve uh gutsy
Speaker 1: two one conversion by se Kwon Barkley there and then
Speaker 1: setting up big bone Randy to push a forty seven
Speaker 1: yard or which or pull forty seven yard or which
Speaker 1: Greggy I predicted in the newsroom live even pointed to
Speaker 1: the exact spot in the screen to go. Dan literally
Speaker 1: like trace the arc of where the ball was going
Speaker 1: to go in front of a stunned newsroom. And then
Speaker 1: when exactly where that arc was I was But after
Speaker 1: the Jets play back, I could use a w and
Speaker 1: I got one. Anyway, it all added up to a
Speaker 1: stunning Giants win over the Titans. Let's spring in a
Speaker 1: devastated grave Digger who you know this is his maiden
Speaker 1: UM flagship program as our main producer, and uh you
Speaker 1: know we asked him to be our voice on this one,
Speaker 1: to follow this game to cover and then helped us,
Speaker 1: help us dissect it. And this is a tough way
Speaker 1: to get thrown into the fire. How you doing, buddy.
Speaker 1: You know it's all good. It's just football. It's not
Speaker 1: like my life or anything. I mean, you seemed like
Speaker 1: a sad puppy talk about half an hour ago. It's
Speaker 1: definitely disappointing way to open the season, obviously, but weak
Speaker 1: ones are like this all around the league right now.
Speaker 1: Packers losing rams losing you know, you can never because
Speaker 1: this is a game that Tennessee was in control of.
Speaker 1: Where did things start to kind of spin out for him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The Titans looked like the dominant team in the first half,
Speaker 1: winning in all phases, explosive punt return, forcing three and
Speaker 1: ounce they were getting after. Daniel Jones had like four
Speaker 1: or five sacks in the first half, I think, and
Speaker 1: then in the second half they gave up big plays.
Speaker 1: It was like the Giants weren't moving the ball effectively
Speaker 1: on Tennessee, but they had a huge shot to Sterling
Speaker 1: Shepard for a touchdown and explosive se Quon Barkley sixty
Speaker 1: eight yard run, another thirty three yard run, and with
Speaker 1: nine minutes left, the Giants were poised to tie the
Speaker 1: game twenty to thirteen, and Daniel Jones made a horrible decision,
Speaker 1: really the only bad decision he made all day, looking
Speaker 1: in the end zone and just stared down a receiver.
Speaker 1: A Monty Hooker was all over it from the beginning
Speaker 1: and broke on it and intercepted it in the end zone.
Speaker 1: It was like, all right, Titans can close this out
Speaker 1: now with the ball nine minutes to go, at their
Speaker 1: own twenty yard line. Titans go three and out quickly
Speaker 1: punted away, the Giants get a huge run from se
Speaker 1: Kuon Barkley at thirty three yard run and then, um,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, development, and I understand that se Kuan
Speaker 1: is on a New York Giant, Giant team that even
Speaker 1: today's result notwithstanding, is a work in progress and a
Speaker 1: team that's rebuilding. But that makes them interesting in the
Speaker 1: NFC East. If he's gonna have a hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: four total yards are excuse me, a hundred ninety four
Speaker 1: total yards. He had the two point conversion. The longest
Speaker 1: run from play from scrimmage for the Giants since Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones is eight yards. Stumble run on a prime time
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. That was huge. That helped
Speaker 1: turn in this game as well. Yeah, se Kwon Berkeley
Speaker 1: was borderline on stubble. I mean, even when it felt
Speaker 1: like the Titans were bottling him up, he was mustling
Speaker 1: forward for for extra yards. And the difference in the
Speaker 1: game I think was the explosive plays. I mean, the
Speaker 1: Giants had big explosive plays that set them up for scores.
Speaker 1: The Titans had a couple big explosives in the passing game,
Speaker 1: but not enough to sustain success on offense, and like
Speaker 1: keep the Giants offense off the field at the end
Speaker 1: of the game when they had to close it out,
Speaker 1: and I thought Tannehill looked pretty good. He had a
Speaker 1: couple of misses in there, but overall pretty good game
Speaker 1: for Tannehill. Derrick Henry, I will say, looks a step
Speaker 1: slower than he does when he's at his peak, and
Speaker 1: that could just be early season Derrick Henry. He he
Speaker 1: usually takes a few weeks to really get going. Or
Speaker 1: it could be a twenty eight year old running back
Speaker 1: coming off a major foot injury that doesn't have the
Speaker 1: same juice he used to have. But I do think
Speaker 1: if you're a Giants fan, you have to be encouraged
Speaker 1: by the way they stuck with it, because at halftime
Speaker 1: it felt like this was gonna end in a blowout
Speaker 1: for Tennessee, and the Giants came out in the second
Speaker 1: half and made all the pavel teams don't give up.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I know, I get that that's
Speaker 1: a joke, but like um, I do think that this
Speaker 1: was a big day for Brian Table because a couple
Speaker 1: of things. I think we showed it during our highlight
Speaker 1: package too. He got in the face of Daniel Jones
Speaker 1: after that one mistaken was just drawing him out. I
Speaker 1: like that. I think it's like he's chanting. So this
Speaker 1: is your one year to figure out what you are,
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, or you're out of here. And the coaching
Speaker 1: decision at the end to point instead of tying it up.
Speaker 1: How many compare that to what Lovey Smith did in
Speaker 1: Houston today, which we'll get too late head coach who
Speaker 1: did and everything else in their own goal compared virtually
Speaker 1: any coach in the league because they're down to point there.
Speaker 1: The analytics would actually say, I don't know this for effects,
Speaker 1: but I'm guessing it would be much more down on
Speaker 1: going for the two there because there's still a minute
Speaker 1: left that you give the other team a chance to
Speaker 1: go win. That's more traditionally a place you just take
Speaker 1: the points because there's a minute left, the other team
Speaker 1: gets set up to win, which the Titans you know
Speaker 1: did by the way, So you're taking all that risks
Speaker 1: without the payoff. But I love that. It's trusting your
Speaker 1: best player, say Kwan Barkley, and I'm so glad I
Speaker 1: got to see that highlight before. You know, as we're
Speaker 1: we're talking, if you're watching us on YouTube, it's it's
Speaker 1: also going up there, um for all our audio listeners.
Speaker 1: His lateral quickness on that play is what got it done.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Titans linebacker is in position to many
Speaker 1: and he can just scow it. And you could see
Speaker 1: that in a little bit of practice footage and the
Speaker 1: preseason that we saw of Barkley that like, wow, that
Speaker 1: lateral explosion, Uh is absolutely back. Another preseason star, Kyle Phillips,
Speaker 1: who we kept talking up, was the leading receiver the time,
Speaker 1: by the way, because his numbers looked like he maybe
Speaker 1: stopped finally, you know, indulging in edibles before practicing games.
Speaker 1: Raylon Burks looked pretty good. I mean, he had a
Speaker 1: few big catches. He was targeted on another one that
Speaker 1: that Um didn't come down with, but he looked pretty good.
Speaker 1: Kyle Phillips was pretty good. But Kyle Phillips had a
Speaker 1: almost killer muffed punt which is what set up the
Speaker 1: Amani hook again it but he ran a perfect round minute,
Speaker 1: perfect catch to set up the game winning play and
Speaker 1: that was that was a timing type of throw that
Speaker 1: you have to trust he's gonna be exactly where it was.
Speaker 1: And it gets me to one thing that drives me crazy.
Speaker 1: In the NFL, how badly botched that end of game
Speaker 1: sequence was by Rabo, the head coach of the Year,
Speaker 1: did not play that very well. He they used a
Speaker 1: time out to prevent a delay of game. Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: had to snap off, but they had already called the
Speaker 1: time out to prevent the delay. I would have rather
Speaker 1: taken five yards at that point than I then I
Speaker 1: wouldn't waste the time out. So use your time out.
Speaker 1: You had two or three plays left there. Instead they
Speaker 1: back up three or four yards to make big bone.
Speaker 1: Randy hit it right to Dan's don't I don't know
Speaker 1: why do this? Don't ever settle for a forty five
Speaker 1: to forty yards running a quick ur in the moment
Speaker 1: as well, This is not the guys just stroking it
Speaker 1: in practice. You need to give them more h latitude there.
Speaker 1: And you put your kicker in a bad spot and
Speaker 1: he failed you. And that's the way it is. And
Speaker 1: by the way, they also looked like you knew who
Speaker 1: was gonna miss that kick. Went to look on his face.
Speaker 1: I just well, look on his face that um, the Titans. Now,
Speaker 1: they do this for a reason, the schedule makers. They
Speaker 1: give you the cookie to start the season at home
Speaker 1: against the g Men, and then they say, we're giving
Speaker 1: you the cookie because we're sending you to Buffalo next week.
Speaker 1: And guess what Monday night they have to now play
Speaker 1: the Bills the Titans, and the Giants get the Panthers.
Speaker 1: So they're potentially set up for a nice start to
Speaker 1: their season. We're just getting started here. Let's take a
Speaker 1: break and then we're gonna We're gonna welcome in an
Speaker 1: old friend, all right, and welcome back. Here we are.
Speaker 1: I told you a friend was joining us. Mary is
Speaker 1: a man ready to be married. Now, Nick Shook, welcome
Speaker 1: back to the flagship program. It's another season together in
Speaker 1: congratulations on your upcoming nuptials. Sir, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: You know, I hate to kill the running podcast bit,
Speaker 1: but long enough I had to get the job done.
Speaker 1: You know, how much do you how much credit do
Speaker 1: you give Dan and and this show question forgetting it done?
Speaker 1: Because it had been putting pressure on you for a
Speaker 1: long time. I would give it to get the ball rolling,
Speaker 1: and then you know, and the other was me. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's a lot, right, you know, I know, I'm just
Speaker 1: kidding you got you guys gave me a little nudge,
Speaker 1: but it was gonna happen regardless. Uh I was actually
Speaker 1: waiting to make it real special in l A and
Speaker 1: then uh I got tired of waiting and just said, well,
Speaker 1: there's a nice speech on Lake Erie in the sun setting.
Speaker 1: And I woke up that morning it was just said,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it today. Would you did you put the
Speaker 1: ring on a credit card? Or do you have that
Speaker 1: cash stored away like a wise investor? Funny that you
Speaker 1: asked that. Interestingly enough, when I first met her, how
Speaker 1: much I didn't have a sit I didn't have a
Speaker 1: savings account, and that was my inspiration actually started savings
Speaker 1: account was because I one day I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: I think she might be the savings account for that month.
Speaker 1: All right, congratulations chook. Let's dig in on some a
Speaker 1: f C North heat, starting with a trip to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Checking in with the defending American Football Conference champions straight
Speaker 1: away to kick good snap down kickers on its way
Speaker 1: that kickers long enough, high en up, and it's good
Speaker 1: that kicking on the Steelers survive in Cincinnati. Howard happened.
Speaker 1: It'll take you an hour, me an hour to tell you.
Speaker 1: Bill He'll grow with it. Called w d V E.
Speaker 1: That might have been Craig Wolfley yelling in the background.
Speaker 1: Chris Bobswell kick the fifty three yard field goals time
Speaker 1: expirering overtime, and the Steelers overcome t J. Watts injury
Speaker 1: late in the fourth quarter to beat the Bengals. It
Speaker 1: was sloppy from both sides, but at the end shook
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh's win. Here felt like a near miracle. You had
Speaker 1: the Bengals failing to convert a p A T at
Speaker 1: the end of regulation that would have won the game.
Speaker 1: Then they have a short field goal blocked at think
Speaker 1: the snapper was involved in both miss q's here, and
Speaker 1: that opened the door for Trabinsky and then Boswell to
Speaker 1: get it done. And we'll get to we'll get to
Speaker 1: t J. Watt in a second, but first let's focus
Speaker 1: on what was a gutty win for Pittsburgh. Gutty win
Speaker 1: powered by their defense. I mean we we we I
Speaker 1: think Greg would attest to this to the Steelers defense
Speaker 1: has a reputation for being good, but it wasn't as
Speaker 1: good as maybe we thought last year. They reversed that narrative.
Speaker 1: That narrative today. I mean, they came out like Gangbusters.
Speaker 1: Make a Fitzpatrick picks off, Joe Burrows first past the
Speaker 1: season for a pick six. T J. Watt jumps up
Speaker 1: and gets a pick, there's a forced fumble. They're all
Speaker 1: over him all day. That revamped offensive line struggled, specifically
Speaker 1: a left guard, and the Steelers took advantage of that.
Speaker 1: They put them on short fields. Travisky didn't have to
Speaker 1: do too much offensively because two of their fourth scoring
Speaker 1: drives started in Cincinnati territory. It wasn't until they actually
Speaker 1: kicked the game winner that they went close to the
Speaker 1: length of the field to get in position for that,
Speaker 1: and that wasn't even close really to the length of
Speaker 1: the field that they start on their own twenties. So
Speaker 1: all the credit in the world goes to their defense,
Speaker 1: their offense to us and steps to take forward. But man,
Speaker 1: this is a group that made some editions in the
Speaker 1: off season, and all of those editions really paid off.
Speaker 1: Cam Sutton had a nice up and down performance where
Speaker 1: he made some big plays, had some also some big errors,
Speaker 1: but redeemed himself. If you're a Steelers fan, you gotta
Speaker 1: feel excited, not because of what you saw necessarily from
Speaker 1: Mr Bisky, but the fact that that defense is looks
Speaker 1: like it's back to where you expect it to be.
Speaker 1: And if it can be like this all year, then
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in every game you play. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: is it going to be like that without t J
Speaker 1: Watt He he left for the pectorial injury. The report
Speaker 1: is that, uh, you know they're they're feeling fearing it's
Speaker 1: a torn pectorial injury. He was almost seen mouthing I
Speaker 1: tore my peck, so that that's what they think and
Speaker 1: that will usually keep you out for much of the season. Uh.
Speaker 1: And their thin there, And yes, I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching it. But it's pretty rare
Speaker 1: that you win a game or a game needs to
Speaker 1: go to overtime. When you win the turnover battle five zero,
Speaker 1: it's like a little bit of a double edged sword
Speaker 1: there where you you lost the first down battle thirty
Speaker 1: two to thirteen. Uh. And it's great that they ended
Speaker 1: up getting the win there, but you would almost expect
Speaker 1: that them to win by more in that kind of situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't sustain the offense that you wanted. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: Travisky hit some passes that you were like, Okay, look
Speaker 1: he looks pretty decent. Pat Freremouth down the sideline. Find
Speaker 1: a couple of different guys down the sideline. But if
Speaker 1: you look at it statistically, very average twenty one thirty
Speaker 1: eight of passer rating below eighty. And they lost the
Speaker 1: time of possession battle in a big way that like
Speaker 1: you mentioned with the first down difference, they didn't sustain
Speaker 1: drives for most of the day. Naja Harris was his
Speaker 1: rushing yards overexpected were in the negative, so they didn't
Speaker 1: block well enough for him to really He left with
Speaker 1: the foot injury and he had a Letts let Frank
Speaker 1: injury and can't choose. So that's concerning. Keep an eye
Speaker 1: on that. It's the same foot. Yeah, the Bengals at
Speaker 1: the ball for forty three minutes and forty three seconds.
Speaker 1: Uh in this game. It did go through overtime to
Speaker 1: the very end. But yeah, that would be my concern.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking forward to watching this game because yes,
Speaker 1: it's a gutty win, maybe a miracle win, but two
Speaker 1: one yards of total offense and maybe not Johiris down
Speaker 1: now and now you take out T. J. Watt for
Speaker 1: maybe the season, maybe into deep into the second half,
Speaker 1: and you you feel like Mark that maybe the Steelers,
Speaker 1: even with the win today, there's reason to be concerned. Well,
Speaker 1: I think there's Their offensive line is a major concern.
Speaker 1: They're lucky that they have Mr Rabinsky. What the assets
Speaker 1: that you bring his mobility is escapability. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to work themselves out of jams
Speaker 1: week after week. This this kind of was with the
Speaker 1: weirdest game. I was watching this from wire to wire
Speaker 1: and there's one of the weirdest performances. I have to
Speaker 1: ask you this a thought, Nick, because you look at
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and I the Bengals all offseason. I feel
Speaker 1: like they were being disrespected a little bit as and
Speaker 1: thinking people they might tail off a little bit, but
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was the reason that you had faith they
Speaker 1: get back to where they were. Uh. Did you come
Speaker 1: out of this with genuine concern for Joe Burrow? Is
Speaker 1: it just an off day? It felt more like an
Speaker 1: off day, some rust, some lack of reps. I mean
Speaker 1: he did miss miss a good portion of training camp.
Speaker 1: With that appendix, removal, so it felt like he was
Speaker 1: kind of shaking off the rust and he made some
Speaker 1: bad decisions. He was also pressured into some bad decisions.
Speaker 1: Like I said, the left guard was a huge problem
Speaker 1: for me watching their offensive line play because that's supposed
Speaker 1: to be the one weakness that they improved in the
Speaker 1: off season and it just didn't stand up today. It
Speaker 1: didn't hold up against the test of the Steelers front.
Speaker 1: And you give Pittsburgh some credit, but you know, he
Speaker 1: still made plays. He still got them in situations to
Speaker 1: be able to score and lead them back. But I
Speaker 1: mean they they're in the red zone on multiple occasions
Speaker 1: and struggling to get three yards, struggling to get into
Speaker 1: the end zone when they're on the doorstep of the
Speaker 1: goal line. They need fourth down to be able to
Speaker 1: score the game tying touchdown. They leave points on the
Speaker 1: board just before halftime because again they're right on the
Speaker 1: doorstep of the end zone and they don't convert. So
Speaker 1: their strength with Burrow is down field, but when the
Speaker 1: field gets shortened, I am a little concerned about their
Speaker 1: ability to move the football. They're they're not gonna face
Speaker 1: his defense like this every week. But so I mean
Speaker 1: to answer your question in kind of a rambling way.
Speaker 1: It was more rust than anything. I still have confidence,
Speaker 1: and then he still made the plays. I think he
Speaker 1: just gotta get his feet underneath them. The uh. This
Speaker 1: was a really fun game to watch. By the end
Speaker 1: of it, it was almost exhausting because those late games
Speaker 1: start and you're like, all right, guys, let's wrap this up.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a little sloppy. My favorite call call,
Speaker 1: and I think Greg and I both reacted in real
Speaker 1: time to it was Iron Eagle. Boswell won the game
Speaker 1: with a long kick, but he nearly won it earlier
Speaker 1: and over time with a kick at the last moment
Speaker 1: knuckled and drilled the upright at like eighty seven miles
Speaker 1: per hour. Let's listen in too, Iron Eagle with the
Speaker 1: call from boss Well, Oh god, what is happening here?
Speaker 1: Grave joking, we might wanna trim what is happening here
Speaker 1: for our own show going forward? All right, chook. So
Speaker 1: that's the situation with the Steelers, that's the situation of
Speaker 1: the Bengals. And by the way, go to Dallas to
Speaker 1: get the Cowboys next week at oh and one. Now
Speaker 1: I want to come down there for and you know,
Speaker 1: the I know one last thing on that because it's
Speaker 1: so important. They had the game one on the late
Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase touchdown as time expired, uh, and they get
Speaker 1: the p A t blocked by who else makea Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: And then there was an issue on the snap as
Speaker 1: well on the short field goal kick. What was the
Speaker 1: background there with the snapper and what happened with the
Speaker 1: Bengals the back room was that was not their starting
Speaker 1: long snapper. That was a replacement who was thrown in there?
Speaker 1: And obviously they had that feels like the underrated like
Speaker 1: plot line in football, whether it's a long snapper or
Speaker 1: the kicker, there's nobody behind him you could trust. So
Speaker 1: there there's nothing worse though, like for for a Bengal
Speaker 1: season that was just riding as high as possible until
Speaker 1: the very end last year. To lose to the Steelers
Speaker 1: at home, missing these two types of kicks, that's as
Speaker 1: bad as as bad as it gets. All right, and
Speaker 1: let's now move to listen. We don't know where Mark's
Speaker 1: journey is as a fan, but I know Shookie. He's
Speaker 1: born in Bread, he's Ohio. And the Browns had a
Speaker 1: game today against the Carolina Panthers, and it ended well
Speaker 1: up for work. We did snee on the ground at
Speaker 1: killing over the ball back, he's into it, rind end
Speaker 1: On ranting to kick it up and it is hit.
Speaker 1: It is good, Gork, but that seconds the ball game
Speaker 1: great called by Jim Donovan w k r K. Here's
Speaker 1: the quote from Mark Adam Sessler immediately to my left,
Speaker 1: not my middle name, Oh god, Cleveland, just one. What
Speaker 1: does it mean? We're gonna get into that later? What
Speaker 1: was the inflection all about? What was in his professional
Speaker 1: in his head? Rookie Cad York kicked to go ahead
Speaker 1: fifty eight yard field goal of eight seconds to play.
Speaker 1: Cream Hunt scored two times and the Brown said, Baker,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have anybody up vengeance denied win over
Speaker 1: the Panthers for the Browns in Charlotte Chookie. The Browns
Speaker 1: had a messy off off season, to say the least,
Speaker 1: but a dramatic win in the season opener is how
Speaker 1: they wanted to turn the page. Yeah, and part of
Speaker 1: the off season transition included a replacement of color commentator
Speaker 1: in the booth. The person you here screaming and almost
Speaker 1: voice cracking is Nathan's Girv, the senior broadcaster for the
Speaker 1: team commentary debut, shout out to him and understanding that
Speaker 1: he couldn't control his emotions and then usiastic individual. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he certainly is. Uh so, I mean this this is
Speaker 1: a game that result wise surprised me. I had picked
Speaker 1: the Panthers and and got all the heat from the
Speaker 1: Browns fans this week understandably so um and mainly because
Speaker 1: I didn't think the Browns can actually put up this
Speaker 1: many points. Not that is a lot of points, but
Speaker 1: if you watch their offense in this game, they can't
Speaker 1: move the ball very consistently unless it's on the ground.
Speaker 1: They ran the crap out of the football on the ground,
Speaker 1: had over two hundred rushing yards as a team I
Speaker 1: think the finish of two seventeen on the ground. Obviously
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb carrying the way with a hundred forty one carries,
Speaker 1: but Kareem Hunt was really the X factor offensively. He
Speaker 1: had a touchdown reception lined up as a full back
Speaker 1: in the eye formation on the goal line, which is
Speaker 1: a dead giveaway fullback flat. Hello, they're gonna throw at
Speaker 1: the Hunt in the flat look out for that. The
Speaker 1: Panthers did not but he also ripped that regime. Yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. Not not prepared in the situation, but the
Speaker 1: personnel but that and then Donovan People's Jones made a
Speaker 1: handful of really clutched catches throughout the game. That's the
Speaker 1: guy that the Browns are really gonna need to step
Speaker 1: up offensively. So the story of the game is controlled
Speaker 1: the clock, controlled possession on the ground, and did enough
Speaker 1: defensively to help yourself feel position wise getting situations where
Speaker 1: you can maybe put some points on the board. They
Speaker 1: left a lot of points out there on the field, however,
Speaker 1: which is concerning and goes back to why I picked
Speaker 1: them to lose this game. Cookie the and as much
Speaker 1: as we can deride Caroline's coaching staff, the idea that
Speaker 1: anyone thinks that Jacoby were set with that surrounding cast
Speaker 1: of playmakers is gonna put up big points. Nobody thinks
Speaker 1: that so was sharp was Caroline is stack in the box?
Speaker 1: We have eight nine facing uh these two running backs,
Speaker 1: because that feels like how everyone should be playing the
Speaker 1: Browns and they shouldn't be able to move the at all,
Speaker 1: not in a per down basis. There were times where
Speaker 1: I only saw six guys in the box, and you
Speaker 1: gotta credit the Browns offensive line. The one thing they've
Speaker 1: been able to do under Kevin Stefanski is block well
Speaker 1: on outside runs. They were able to do that very
Speaker 1: effectively today and give Nick Chuck just enough room to
Speaker 1: hit that one cut and burst up the field and
Speaker 1: rip off some nice runs. I think I saw a
Speaker 1: graphic late in the game where it was average down
Speaker 1: in distance on third down, the Panthers were something like
Speaker 1: ten plus and the Browns are at six point six.
Speaker 1: And that all goes back to the fact that you
Speaker 1: can stay on schedule in first and second down to
Speaker 1: ruin the football. Even late when they had to get
Speaker 1: in position to kick that game winning field goal, they
Speaker 1: were still going to the run because they knew it
Speaker 1: was their best way to move the football. So they're
Speaker 1: built to be able to win games like this if
Speaker 1: they can get defensive stops. They played a really good
Speaker 1: half defensively until the final possession for the Panthers. They
Speaker 1: had some blown coverages and then the avalanche came. Because
Speaker 1: again they blew some coverages. It looked like Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: was going to lead a comeback win, but ultimately the
Speaker 1: Browns got something that they never get in this situation,
Speaker 1: which is a clutch kick. Usually they're on the losing
Speaker 1: end of this situation. I'm sitting there watching it bridgets here.
Speaker 1: You know, now, my fiance, no chance he makes this chance,
Speaker 1: he makes this that he's he's not making this field goal.
Speaker 1: They're losing this game, and he drilled it. So the
Speaker 1: turn of events for the brown When the last time
Speaker 1: they won an opener with I mean I mentioned this
Speaker 1: four hundred times on the broadcast, was the first year
Speaker 1: I moved to l A, which is two thousand four.
Speaker 1: That is an absurd um anti streak right there. So
Speaker 1: this was big for the Browns. It sure was Shookie.
Speaker 1: Any other thoughts about Mayfield. Did you think that he
Speaker 1: played well in this game? I know it started off
Speaker 1: extremely slowly, but he really came on and almost stole it.
Speaker 1: He was puture in the first half. A lot of
Speaker 1: the familiar things for Baker, passes, knockdown to the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, really ugly interception, throwne offense looking out of sync.
Speaker 1: But when guys were open, he did find them and
Speaker 1: he really hit his stride. In the second half, especially
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, it looked like a textbook Mayfield
Speaker 1: comeback game, but this time he did not end up
Speaker 1: on the winning end. This was a tough spot. I
Speaker 1: I wanted both of these teams to lose, and not
Speaker 1: that I was a huge Baker fan before the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but he completely lost me. So I
Speaker 1: was rooting against him, and then of course rooting against
Speaker 1: the Browns sort of semi permanently. So it was like
Speaker 1: there was no way to win this game. What was
Speaker 1: up with the Christian McCaffrey usage here? Only fourteen touches?
Speaker 1: Is this go back to them now just being so
Speaker 1: paranoid about him getting hurt that they're really trying to
Speaker 1: ease him out of the offense a little bit. Well,
Speaker 1: they tried to get him the ball early, and the
Speaker 1: Browns did a really good job of bottling him up.
Speaker 1: It wasn't until the second half that he really made
Speaker 1: a difference. He had a nice run on third and
Speaker 1: seven where he broke four tackles to move the chains
Speaker 1: on one of their key scoring drives. But yeah, just
Speaker 1: not a big enough of a focal part of the offense.
Speaker 1: And and the big reason was they just had no
Speaker 1: rhythm offensively, They had no opportunity to kind of continuously
Speaker 1: feed him the football because they were constantly behind schedule
Speaker 1: third and long and the Browns knew that the screens
Speaker 1: were coming and it just didn't give a lot of opportunities. Now,
Speaker 1: he did score touchdown going airborne, which I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: don't get hurt. Just because of how he's gotten hurt
Speaker 1: in the past, I would anticipate that they work him
Speaker 1: in more because that's their best chance. No matter who
Speaker 1: they haven't receiver and tight end, he's still their best
Speaker 1: chance ago win games. So they have to be feeding
Speaker 1: him more than they did on Sunday. All right, So
Speaker 1: now let's talk, um, Greg, I'll start with you in
Speaker 1: this just me, Um, where did you? Where did you
Speaker 1: see Cessler? I was sessy in the newsroom to you,
Speaker 1: and we've known him for a decade and no one
Speaker 1: loves the Browns more than Mark Sessler and shook you.
Speaker 1: He shook you know, and in the distant rear view,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Nick, like this was this was the Mark
Speaker 1: that we knew was in love. And I thought some
Speaker 1: of the comments he was making maybe spoke to that
Speaker 1: was still inside him, which was my curiosity entering Sunday's act, right,
Speaker 1: I mean it really You can even go back to
Speaker 1: Wednesday or so on our text thread when he found
Speaker 1: out that this was Shooks game and he was like,
Speaker 1: what that Shooks gape? That that right, there was the
Speaker 1: early that was an early tale. But it's like you
Speaker 1: can even you can watch it, you can still watch it.
Speaker 1: Well that's kind of the point, right, And then you
Speaker 1: you mentioned that quote that he said, oh god, the
Speaker 1: Browns one, and I'll let you talk about the tone
Speaker 1: of that quote. But one thing I've noticed by the way,
Speaker 1: it PM Eastern when apparently the quarterback for Cleveland did
Speaker 1: something Jacobe were set making a play, right, right, I
Speaker 1: do remember it was a rare sight in. But if
Speaker 1: you kind of just make that a different game, is
Speaker 1: he's saying Kirk Cousins making a play in that situation.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't hear that. Well. So one thing
Speaker 1: I've noticed over the years with Mark though, is post
Speaker 1: Browns game. So I'm gonna take it till the game's over.
Speaker 1: We'll get to you. Mark, just hang on a second
Speaker 1: post Browns game following a victory. Um, he'll be really
Speaker 1: excited for the early parts of the next game. He'll
Speaker 1: be super into it. He'll be like really fired up
Speaker 1: about what's happening to Kyler Murray and Patrick Mahomes in
Speaker 1: certain things. If they win, if they lose. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: a it's a little bit more of a quieter Mark,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And he had a special
Speaker 1: sort of zeal, even a yeah exactly. Everything had a
Speaker 1: little more light to it. So just well, this is
Speaker 1: your impression. Do you have any take on this? And
Speaker 1: think you've been watching from a distance with Mark? I
Speaker 1: think it's Greg summed up best in a text. He
Speaker 1: asked me what my games were for this week, and
Speaker 1: of course I listed the Browns and UH and the Panthers,
Speaker 1: and he texted me back, you will make it easier
Speaker 1: for Mark to give up the Browns, And I said,
Speaker 1: I will bear his cross. That's nice of you all.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything to add about Did you feel anything,
Speaker 1: you know, flicker inside you during that stirring come back
Speaker 1: there at the end. I'm trying to explain this to
Speaker 1: you probably twice three times a week. I'm comfortable with
Speaker 1: my decision. And I actually was enjoying football more in
Speaker 1: general today because I wasn't emotionally attached to one team
Speaker 1: and like I again, that did not really I know,
Speaker 1: I know what we're attempting to do here, Um Greg,
Speaker 1: I think that I was. I was probably commenting on
Speaker 1: eight or nine games today. Now we have to read
Speaker 1: into that. He's gonna try to camouflage it in as
Speaker 1: we're going to do conversations like this. But the thing
Speaker 1: that gets me more than anything is him repeating insistently,
Speaker 1: I feel nothing. It's no different than any other game.
Speaker 1: So how could that even be possible? How could you
Speaker 1: feel nothing? Even if you're somehow landing in the middle.
Speaker 1: You still have all this history you have Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: was the guy you have de Sean Watson and that
Speaker 1: idea which turned you off so much. You have all
Speaker 1: your years of the Browns, and yet that lands on
Speaker 1: I feel nothing. That doesn't all add up. Even if
Speaker 1: it's confusing, and you surely feel something, that's your psychology
Speaker 1: and this is not I don't want you to see.
Speaker 1: This is ganging up on you. Mark. It's really It's
Speaker 1: an important in terms of the podcast and a character
Speaker 1: study of of someone that we work with very closely
Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of this, and the investigation
Speaker 1: will continue as the season continue one thing. For for
Speaker 1: Nick and for other people. I am like, I have
Speaker 1: nothing against people that are sticking with the Browns, that
Speaker 1: are longtime, lifelong Browns fans. I'm happy for them when
Speaker 1: they win. It's just I have removed myself from the
Speaker 1: situation than a bridge fortely excited about what's occurring. I'll
Speaker 1: say this as somebody who had many huddle up conversations
Speaker 1: with Cessler in the newsroom back in the day after
Speaker 1: the brown suffered yet another excruciating loss. I find it
Speaker 1: hard to believe that he will be able to separate
Speaker 1: so easily than to the course of this season. We'll
Speaker 1: leave it at that. Nick Shook from Cleveland checking in.
Speaker 1: We'll see you next week, buddy. Thanks guys. All right,
Speaker 1: let's ook you with some quirkers there big time. Let's
Speaker 1: take a break and we'll be right back. All right,
Speaker 1: We say goodbye to Shook and let us head to
Speaker 1: the NFC North. Wild stuff going on here. Well that's
Speaker 1: strong maybe so right, just starting great call there by
Speaker 1: Paul Allen kf A. And you know we're old enough
Speaker 1: to have seen Randy Moss at his apex with the Vikings,
Speaker 1: and I didn't think I've ever see anybody that could
Speaker 1: approach Mosson probably won't, but the fact that the Vikings
Speaker 1: have another absolute monster stud in his early twenties with
Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson, that's nice. That's that's riches. Justin Jefferson went
Speaker 1: off for four and two touchdowns, leading the Vikings with
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins of course, to a seven win over the
Speaker 1: Packers and Kevin O'Connell's debut, and this one is a
Speaker 1: tough way greg for the Packers to begin their defense
Speaker 1: at the NFC North title. No. Looking so hapless on
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball was shocking to me. And
Speaker 1: maybe actually I shouldn't be as shocked because as Justin Jefferson,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, like is a big time player, Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook is a big time player. Daniel Hunter and now
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith who had great, great games that both of
Speaker 1: them are big time players. And there's this idea that
Speaker 1: the Vikings are just blah, they're boring, they're the same
Speaker 1: team every year and maybe that's where they'll land this year.
Speaker 1: But they do have awesome players at the heart of it.
Speaker 1: If they don't get in their own way. And most
Speaker 1: of the second half was spent with Hansas, who had
Speaker 1: a lot of correct predictions, mid game predictions that went
Speaker 1: well for him today. But what didn't go well with
Speaker 1: him saying, Oh, the Vikings are gonna viking here, and
Speaker 1: this one's gonna keep getting closer, keep getting closer. And
Speaker 1: you know what, it didn't because their defense stood up,
Speaker 1: their offense held the ball enough in the second half,
Speaker 1: even if they really only got a couple of field
Speaker 1: goals there. And most importantly, as you mentioned justin Jefferson
Speaker 1: is just outrageous. You can you mentioned he's not gonna
Speaker 1: be another Moss. Well, Randy Moss is the only player
Speaker 1: in NFL history to have as many hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: yard games this young, this stage of his Jeffers, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he it was a fascination to watch him.
Speaker 1: And I think the flip side of this was that
Speaker 1: this was not last year's Packers on offense or the
Speaker 1: year before or the year before, because the Davante Adams
Speaker 1: free Packers, unlike the Chiefs missing Tyreek Hill, did not
Speaker 1: have an answer. And I thought that Aaron Rodgers, you
Speaker 1: know that in the first half especially, they had one
Speaker 1: drive out of seven that went from more than thirteen yards.
Speaker 1: They looked confused. To me, there were big mistakes I
Speaker 1: and we we talked about this too as a group
Speaker 1: that Christian Watson dropped what would have been a home
Speaker 1: run touchdown that would have been that was literally the
Speaker 1: first pass of the season, would have been a seventy
Speaker 1: five yards. They held it up in a way I
Speaker 1: think to send him. I don't know if they dialed
Speaker 1: up to send a message, but they dialed it up
Speaker 1: knowing like, Okay, here's the first play of the season.
Speaker 1: Can we get Watson for seventy five perfect throw by
Speaker 1: Rodgers and yeah, it goes right through his hand. They
Speaker 1: had a J. Dillon stuffed on the goal line in
Speaker 1: a in a possession that would have changed this game,
Speaker 1: because I know what you're saying, Dan, Because the Viking
Speaker 1: were hot and then they cooled down significantly for such
Speaker 1: a long stretch of time that you could see the
Speaker 1: Packers with a wide open door to get back into
Speaker 1: the game. But Aaron Rodgers looked as frustrated as I've
Speaker 1: seen him in a long time, and he looked a
Speaker 1: little banged up at stretches. For me too, he was
Speaker 1: getting hit hard, and this to me was a very
Speaker 1: harbinger of doom for the Packers, although I can think
Speaker 1: remember how they started last year too. I'll use it again.
Speaker 1: It's just week one, so we don't want to get
Speaker 1: too ahead of ourselves, but you're right, it's not a
Speaker 1: great start for them. And I'll tell exactly the moment
Speaker 1: where I was like, Okay, I know the vikings. We
Speaker 1: all know the vikings. We know that the Packers have done,
Speaker 1: especially in the regular season under La Flora, with Rogers
Speaker 1: winning back to back m v ps. They got it,
Speaker 1: they were down twenty nothing. Uh in the second quarter,
Speaker 1: they get they get the touchdown, they finally get on
Speaker 1: the board seven place, seventy five yards. Then they get
Speaker 1: a punt, so now they have the ball back in
Speaker 1: the third quarter down twenty seven, and I'm thinking myself,
Speaker 1: they're gonna go down the field. They're gonna make it.
Speaker 1: And then that Minnesota offense, which under the prior regime
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousin is there, can go to sleep. They
Speaker 1: could be on fire for stretches, and then they can
Speaker 1: go into deep funks when they go into a three
Speaker 1: and out binge. And I thought it was gonna be
Speaker 1: a situation where Rogers has the ball down six late
Speaker 1: in the game. And yet credit to Minnesota's defense because
Speaker 1: the fact that Minnesota, despite all this great fireworks from Jefferson,
Speaker 1: they only finished with twenty three points in this game,
Speaker 1: but they made its stand up because the Vikings defense
Speaker 1: did not let Aaron Rodgers get things rolling. And you
Speaker 1: definitely felt it. Greg. I mean, I know Davante Adams
Speaker 1: did well with Derrick car statistically today, but you felt
Speaker 1: there were moments in the game where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is where Davante would give him a big pick
Speaker 1: me up. And it's gonna take time, you think, for
Speaker 1: the Packers to find that A J. Dillon was their
Speaker 1: leading receiver. And then beyond that, it was nice to
Speaker 1: see Robert touny In back in the mix. He looks good.
Speaker 1: Beyond that, they're two leading white Outs where Dubs and
Speaker 1: and Watson two rookies, and so I think it will
Speaker 1: come eventually. Uh you know they Sammy Watkins was in
Speaker 1: this game and didn't make a big differ. Alan Lazard
Speaker 1: hopefully returns. They were missing a lot of players, so
Speaker 1: David Baktier and Elton Jenkins Elkton Jenkins, like it's a
Speaker 1: very hard name to You're just not use both both
Speaker 1: players were cautiously expected to play in this game, and
Speaker 1: so you went and then they neither one of them did.
Speaker 1: And they also lost Runyon Uh their starting guard during
Speaker 1: the game. So suddenly you're down three offensive lineman. So
Speaker 1: if you're trying to make this receiver salad kind of work, uh,
Speaker 1: you at least need to have that really strong offensive line.
Speaker 1: The combination of the two made it look like their
Speaker 1: last game that they played, which was against the forty nine,
Speaker 1: I mean, which was against the forty niners in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: If you're not protecting them and you don't have those
Speaker 1: guys out wide, you're just gonna be a total mess.
Speaker 1: And the Vikings were extremely physical, like Zadarius Smith, DJ
Speaker 1: want Um Uh Hunter. They all look fresh. And I
Speaker 1: give their coaching staff um some credit here because it's
Speaker 1: a new coaching staff ed. Donna tells the defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: he had a play at the goal line that really
Speaker 1: mixed up Rodgers. I think Greg Olsen, who did a
Speaker 1: great job in his first game officially as the number
Speaker 1: one guy, like really explained it and he confused Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: And they have a new coaching staff on both sides.
Speaker 1: It was a very common composed game where I think
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins played with a lot of clarity. So if
Speaker 1: we want to give the coach to some credit, we
Speaker 1: give it to them. Maybe it's just the players. Either way,
Speaker 1: it was like a very a very strong opening salvo.
Speaker 1: If you're if you're O'Connell, I mean you're you're having
Speaker 1: to deal with the Packers in week one, and like
Speaker 1: it kind of tells you everything that this journey could
Speaker 1: be for them. And so I love the win. I
Speaker 1: mean I get concerned for Aaron Rodgers. There was a
Speaker 1: play where three Vikings defenders essentially just descended on him
Speaker 1: and destroyed him and it resulted in a fumble. And
Speaker 1: it's like we Aaron Rodgers has not built like Josh Allen. I.
Speaker 1: You always just worry about the Aaron Rodgers collar RNE situation.
Speaker 1: Things like that. He looked uncomfortable and it's just like
Speaker 1: he also is a kind of guy that if you're
Speaker 1: gonna get him agitated and frustrated early on, you're gonna
Speaker 1: hear about it. And I cannot wait to see what
Speaker 1: his comments are. The Packers get the Bears at home
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football next week. The Vikings get the Eagles
Speaker 1: on Monday Night football next week. That's gonna be a
Speaker 1: great early school Who miss their lock? Only one person
Speaker 1: missed their lock this week? Who, well, couldn't not the
Speaker 1: Titans fan hopefully not. Yeah, you know to read digging
Speaker 1: his own grave, I mean was flying high. He introduced
Speaker 1: Jessica for the first time really meaningfully into social situation. Yes,
Speaker 1: we met her briefly at the holiday party, but that
Speaker 1: was kind of at the point in the relationship where
Speaker 1: Graver was, you know, we weren't trying to keep it
Speaker 1: on the download a little bit um and it was
Speaker 1: slightly suspicious. That was wonderful and he left just feeling
Speaker 1: I think great about everything. He's part of the team
Speaker 1: and is it's great one. At the holiday party, they
Speaker 1: were in the shadows, right, and I felt like when
Speaker 1: we got together on the eve of the season, it
Speaker 1: was stepping into the light and it was a wonderful time.
Speaker 1: So think about that. They about your relationship and all
Speaker 1: the good things you have in you. That's what I
Speaker 1: would say. This is what I would if I were
Speaker 1: to sing a little song for go ahead. His team lost,
Speaker 1: He lost his luck. When it rains, it pours but
Speaker 1: he still has Jessica. You know, we don't get that
Speaker 1: song with lost right, No, that's not this is my
Speaker 1: I care about his well being. Like he's saying that
Speaker 1: song in the back to Uh. He was really like
Speaker 1: full throadd it was beautiful. Um. And speaking of the
Speaker 1: vikingsst they have the Eagles on Monday night, but they
Speaker 1: also have a game in London against the Saints. Saints
Speaker 1: and we'll be there and we're gonna be doing our
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Speaker 1: NFL London. Here we go. Let's move on to the
Speaker 1: highest scoring game of Week one and went down at
Speaker 1: ford Field. Get the grid out hurts thanks to slip.
Speaker 1: He's pumping. He is going out of this foot the
Speaker 1: fourth snline by A J. Brown. He works at four
Speaker 1: across the five fourth class a great Oh, no grave digger. Oh.
Speaker 1: He brings out the bongos. That's a pro. Give me
Speaker 1: the Bunages, give me the Bunagles. He's still got Jessica.
Speaker 1: He's still got Jessica. Even though A J. Brown went
Speaker 1: off today in in a Eagles uniform, that is Meryl
Speaker 1: Reese w I p with the call. Jalen Hurts three
Speaker 1: thirty three total yards in a touchdown. A J. Brown
Speaker 1: a career high, tying a hundred fifty five yards in
Speaker 1: his debut with the Eggles, and Philly holds on five
Speaker 1: over the Lions at Ford Field. The Eagles scored twenty
Speaker 1: four points in the second quarter. They were up seventeen
Speaker 1: and the fourth and then Jared Goff in Detroit. They
Speaker 1: put some lipstick on that piggy greggy. But the Eagles
Speaker 1: are gonna be a problem for defenses, aren't they. A. J.
Speaker 1: Brown is gonna be a problem. I'm digging the grave
Speaker 1: of that trade. It was a bad idea. You could
Speaker 1: have found the money to keep the Okay, Okay, I
Speaker 1: agree with Greg. Should have found the money. They could
Speaker 1: have figured it out. Of course, we don't need to
Speaker 1: know Justin doesn't go home and then suddenly Jessica is
Speaker 1: annoyed with him about something off the cuff to he
Speaker 1: does not need it today. It's a totally fair point.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, A J. Brown was the difference
Speaker 1: in this game. I believe if A J. Brown was
Speaker 1: not on this team, if the Eagles had not made
Speaker 1: this trade, they actually lose this game because while some
Speaker 1: uh parts of this matchup were similar to a year ago,
Speaker 1: ultimately Philadelphia ran the ball when they needed to. It
Speaker 1: was not just lipstick on a pig. I mean at
Speaker 1: the very end of the game that Peoples needed to
Speaker 1: get multiple first downs to assault this game away, and
Speaker 1: they were able to buy running and they took a
Speaker 1: very gutsy fourth in one call where Jalen Hurts barely
Speaker 1: got it um or else they would have turned the
Speaker 1: ball back over the Lions, who might have just won
Speaker 1: this game the way their offense was going. But A J.
Speaker 1: Brown's ability to make contested catch is in tight traffic
Speaker 1: and then make a couple of plays after the catch.
Speaker 1: After he made those tough catches made Jalen Hurts look
Speaker 1: better because I think those were the same throws he
Speaker 1: threw last year and they just went incomplete or they
Speaker 1: were like a seven yard game. It's the guy that
Speaker 1: the Eagles have been looking for for years to be
Speaker 1: that type of guy that makes the quarterback better, and
Speaker 1: that's what they have in play here right now. What
Speaker 1: so DeVante Smith, though I'm looking at his line zero yards,
Speaker 1: zero four targets, Brown definitely had most of the attention.
Speaker 1: I think Smith had a drop in there. Um, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be concerned about that, just because their offense was
Speaker 1: extremely efficient. This was not a game with a ton
Speaker 1: of possessions. Considering how many points were scored, I believe
Speaker 1: including the last drive, which was very effective, they won
Speaker 1: the game on it. They only had ten drives and
Speaker 1: you put up thirty eight points. That that wasn't a
Speaker 1: problem Jalen Hurts. His legs also, which I still think
Speaker 1: are weirdly overlooked, were the other difference too, because early
Speaker 1: in the game they did not really play well on offense.
Speaker 1: He was getting confused by blitzes, and yet the Lions
Speaker 1: were blitzing and getting to Jalen Hurts and he was
Speaker 1: making them pay with his legs. He ends up with
Speaker 1: ninety yards on the ground. Very few of those were
Speaker 1: called runs. He had a couple effective called runs, but
Speaker 1: most of them were scrambles where it's like, this drive's
Speaker 1: gonna end unless Jalen Hurts goes and picks up fourteen
Speaker 1: yards here, let's go pick up for it. I feel
Speaker 1: very close to Dan Campbell after covering the Hard Knocks
Speaker 1: season with Colleen Wolfe Um. I do want to hear
Speaker 1: from UH coach Grit himself after the loss. Let's see
Speaker 1: how Campbell was doing. This is game one and we
Speaker 1: got a long season here, and I said, the good
Speaker 1: news is that we didn't play very well and we
Speaker 1: lost by three. That's what you can take away from
Speaker 1: this now if we just take this whole approach where
Speaker 1: every week it's like, well we play, you know, we
Speaker 1: lost by three, Well we lost by three, we lost
Speaker 1: by three, Then what are we doing? So we gotta
Speaker 1: clean this up and UH, we gotta be better. We
Speaker 1: gotta be a lot better in all areas. He's right,
Speaker 1: because they have now graduated from it being good enough
Speaker 1: to be competitive. That was last year and that's why
Speaker 1: everybody liked them, because they they were very easy to
Speaker 1: root for. But I'm not saying you needed to win
Speaker 1: this game. But this can't be the story of the
Speaker 1: Lions again or else it's not really working. I mean,
Speaker 1: if we look at week one and say, the outcomes
Speaker 1: are far more variable and bizarre than you're gonna get
Speaker 1: over the course of other weeks. Typically, they lost to
Speaker 1: Philadelphia forty four to six a year ago, and that
Speaker 1: was in the middle of the season, and that by
Speaker 1: that point the Eagles had figured out what they wanted
Speaker 1: to be a run heavy jugg or not. But I'd
Speaker 1: look at this game for the Lions and say, number one,
Speaker 1: they started off with a great drive out of the gate,
Speaker 1: and they looked like they kind of did in the
Speaker 1: preseason to me. I know, they gave up a ton
Speaker 1: of points, but I think it's a tough team on
Speaker 1: both sides of the line. They didn't They only got
Speaker 1: one sack on Hurts today. I mean, he's really well
Speaker 1: protected by that line in general. But this is not
Speaker 1: a disaster for Detroit. On any looks great, yes, but
Speaker 1: I think you're playing in one of the more dangerous
Speaker 1: offenses around now. I mean, the Lions are one of
Speaker 1: the worst defenses in the league last year. I think
Speaker 1: their secondary has potential to be one of the worst
Speaker 1: in the league. I think at moments they played fairly well,
Speaker 1: and but Campbell was like, we got to improve in
Speaker 1: all phases. Uh no, your defense is lousy. You need
Speaker 1: to improve your defense. And I know Goff struggled late
Speaker 1: in the second quarter. He had like thirteen yards and
Speaker 1: so they started slow offensively, but they still put up
Speaker 1: thirty five and Swift had the best game of his career.
Speaker 1: They were missing two offensive linemen at guard and they
Speaker 1: ran really well. So I don't know, it just seems
Speaker 1: like a defensive problem to me. Seventeen rushes for Hurts
Speaker 1: is that it seems a little high. You okay with
Speaker 1: that the ball that much, it was a lot high.
Speaker 1: It was not most of them were not called. So
Speaker 1: you mentioned like there was only one sack. They got
Speaker 1: free rushers and they blitzed and confused him quite a bit,
Speaker 1: and then he would just beat the free rushers and that.
Speaker 1: But it also I think speaks to how teams will
Speaker 1: attack the Eagles because he They didn't really have a
Speaker 1: lot of answers passing wise early for that, but his
Speaker 1: his legs were the answer. Let us oh oh oh yes, Markie,
Speaker 1: you and I you and I both. That's a good
Speaker 1: way to start. We should pick the same team every week.
Speaker 1: That doesn't sound because I can I tell you what.
Speaker 1: Let's not fight it. Can I tell you why? Because
Speaker 1: it was agitating Greg. No that it was. It was
Speaker 1: wanted into a psychological jar and we twisted him into
Speaker 1: like an emotional pretzel and that was fun. It distressed him.
Speaker 1: If you could upset Greg physically or emotionally, then it's like, alright,
Speaker 1: that that's what I try to do. That's not I
Speaker 1: don't want to do that, Greg, but just knowing it
Speaker 1: happens occasionally, it's like, oh Greg's human, he feels things
Speaker 1: and I could can I can connect and physically I'm
Speaker 1: struggling on this Sunday. It added a nice element to
Speaker 1: you know, we spend nine ten hours together on Sundays.
Speaker 1: It added in a nice element to um. Yes, Gregg's
Speaker 1: gutting through um some he's not feeling great, so we
Speaker 1: appreciate you not feeling well. And then I asked, is
Speaker 1: it possible that you're going to be giving us what
Speaker 1: you have And I'm sitting two feet away from Greg
Speaker 1: and I didn't get a clear answer on that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then we're gonna be locking up something together. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be headlocking Rosenthump from the infirmary. Let's take a brain.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Let's roll on kenth Play of
Speaker 1: the drive for the Bears. I formation under center fields,
Speaker 1: takes and fakes, quit time, lovest quick to the anode, touchdown,
Speaker 1: touchdown Theirs. He feathered it in their beautif plays, crapped
Speaker 1: it in the end zone, Jeff Jonny act with a
Speaker 1: called W B B M. I like that move that
Speaker 1: econymious st Brown where you catch the touchdown or you
Speaker 1: crossed into the end zone then you fire the ball
Speaker 1: into the wall. It's always better when it's the era
Speaker 1: in someone else's building and it's their logo and you
Speaker 1: hit their logo with the ball. But in this case,
Speaker 1: he fired into the Chicago Bears logo. And that's fine
Speaker 1: because everything's fine around the Bears right now because the
Speaker 1: Eberflus Revolution is upon us. Justin fields through two second
Speaker 1: half touchdowns, including that go ahead score to equan st Brown,
Speaker 1: Eddie Jackson set up TV with an interception, and yes,
Speaker 1: the Bears beat the Niners nineteen ten on a rainy
Speaker 1: day in Chicago. A Mark sela, weather is the ultimate equalizer,
Speaker 1: Am I right? Well, you're dead right, and I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised that you are. But this the rain in this game. Uh,
Speaker 1: at times it became manageable, but there were moments of
Speaker 1: intense downpour. I mean, it's certainly it's almost hard to
Speaker 1: evaluate the quarterback playing. This was gonna be my my
Speaker 1: follow up question, which is how much do you put
Speaker 1: in this game because of the other how much did
Speaker 1: that play a role or should be given be given?
Speaker 1: Chicago a lot of credit for what happened. I did
Speaker 1: give them credit just because the Niners, if anything, you
Speaker 1: believe in their defense entirely. And when Justin Fields, who
Speaker 1: had nineteen yards in the first half and really was
Speaker 1: not a fact or he found holes in the Niner
Speaker 1: secondary to make some big plays. He had a fifty
Speaker 1: one yard touchdown strike he had that one do a
Speaker 1: nick with me as St. Brown, I mean where he
Speaker 1: had two guys open on that. I thought he saw
Speaker 1: the field field well there, so he made the most
Speaker 1: of it. Uh. I. Both teams ran the ball thirty
Speaker 1: seven times, but I think the Niners probably came into
Speaker 1: the game wanting to do that to begin with. They
Speaker 1: Trey Lance was not going to the air very early
Speaker 1: on because of the weather. But Trey Lance to me,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a real week to week journey
Speaker 1: with Trey Lance because he will always do things in
Speaker 1: a game that make you believe. But there were times
Speaker 1: when he looked really lost to me, and he generated
Speaker 1: three points in the second half. They couldn't get out
Speaker 1: of their own way. It just it's quarterback. Looks like
Speaker 1: it will be a liability at times, but again because
Speaker 1: of the because of the weather, because of the weather,
Speaker 1: he's been all over the map all summer, and I
Speaker 1: think it's just it's a lot like they really broke
Speaker 1: down the fact that, like this Niner's offense, while it's
Speaker 1: quarterback friendly and your it's well coached, the terminology, the
Speaker 1: whole mental process of taking on what what they're asking
Speaker 1: a quarterback to do takes time. It's not easy. And
Speaker 1: this is someone that has not played a lot of
Speaker 1: football in the past couple of years, and he's got
Speaker 1: the gifts. I mean, I thought there were a couple
Speaker 1: of times when Trey Lance uh stood up in the
Speaker 1: pocket and made a throw when he could have in
Speaker 1: a different place. If he were a little bit less
Speaker 1: lower on its maturity at this point on the field,
Speaker 1: he would have taken off to scramble like I mean,
Speaker 1: he tried to make plays, but they just they this
Speaker 1: was not their day. And I really thought that some
Speaker 1: of defensive breakdowns led to tray Lander led to Justin
Speaker 1: Fields saving it for the Bears. This is a big win.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a Super Bowl type team the Niners,
Speaker 1: and people were looking at the Bears as a bottom
Speaker 1: five operations. They're clearly rebuilding. I don't think anyone expected
Speaker 1: this to happen. It's a it's a nice moment for Chicago,
Speaker 1: right They only had two d and four total yards.
Speaker 1: They were outgained by a hundred and twenty seven yards.
Speaker 1: So it's not a traditional win. But who Caress and
Speaker 1: the forty Niners in terms of bad whether it's like that,
Speaker 1: that's how they got to the NFC Championship as they
Speaker 1: found a way to win a bad weather game, losing
Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell so early in the game. Uh, it did
Speaker 1: not sound like a back Jeff Wilson came in. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't know, to be honest, Like
Speaker 1: it wasn't helpful at all, But isn't it every season
Speaker 1: that are losing running backs? Like but I feel like
Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell was so easily the number one most talented
Speaker 1: guy on that team. They could have used George that most.
Speaker 1: It's not there. And and one thing to watch really
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, and and I will
Speaker 1: when I watch this game, is that they have four
Speaker 1: new offensive line starters, none of them with pedigree, almost
Speaker 1: none of them with any playing experience, almost none of them,
Speaker 1: you know, being drafted in the first five rounds. On
Speaker 1: most teams, that's all anyone would talk about. But because
Speaker 1: it's the forty niners and they will get mcglinchie back,
Speaker 1: who's hurt, people are just like, well, Shanahan always figures
Speaker 1: it out. But it's it's something to watch. It is
Speaker 1: and you know, yards and penalties just to sloppy starts
Speaker 1: of this season. I'm gonna watch this game. I want
Speaker 1: to figure out what's going on. I already Bears fans
Speaker 1: getting on me and the mentions because I had the
Speaker 1: Bears at thirty two in the power rankings, like, well,
Speaker 1: we beat your team at number three. Well, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's that's fair. It's a nice win for them. But
Speaker 1: I do want to see both of these teams on
Speaker 1: a dry track and see where things are a week
Speaker 1: from now. But taking nothing away from Chicago, that's a
Speaker 1: big win. Uh. And again a city that's starving for
Speaker 1: anything of interest to beat the Niners, who came within
Speaker 1: a fourth quarter of meltdown of going to the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl last year. Very nice, very nice start, all right,
Speaker 1: let us keep moving on. Let's head to Miami, Miamis.
Speaker 1: Let's come into got him footballs out touchdown Miami. Ingram
Speaker 1: picked it up on the bounce. Yes that Melvin Ingram,
Speaker 1: no gloves on, doesn't wear the gloves I always like that,
Speaker 1: no tape. Driss player Jimmy Cephalo w q A M
Speaker 1: with the call, Safety Brandon Jones screamed off the corner,
Speaker 1: walloped mac Jones. The ensuing fumble scooped up and running
Speaker 1: for a score by Ingram. The signature played for the
Speaker 1: Dolphins in a twenty seven win over the Patriots and
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel's debut as head coach of the Dolphins uh
Speaker 1: to a tongue of voloa through for to seventy and
Speaker 1: a touchdown flash some chemistry Tyreek Hill, who was involved
Speaker 1: early and often. Um, But this was about the defense
Speaker 1: and they were the star in this game. And the
Speaker 1: Patriots managed a single scoring drive on a day that
Speaker 1: ended with mac Jones dipping into an X ray room
Speaker 1: to get his back looked at. They canceled his subsequent
Speaker 1: um press availability because of that. So as we record this,
Speaker 1: we don't know if that's a serious issue or what.
Speaker 1: But here we are, Gregg, this is where we're at
Speaker 1: right now. I thought that the Patriots the score tells
Speaker 1: you know, you score once and all these drives are
Speaker 1: not a good day for the offense. The fact that
Speaker 1: Mac Jones could be hurt, that could be a disaster
Speaker 1: for this offense. But I think the second commater night
Speaker 1: night if um, it was the second quarter where they
Speaker 1: let the game go away. The second quarter. When you
Speaker 1: watch this game, you'll say, oh, that's the Patriots offense
Speaker 1: that we heard about all summer. The rest of the game,
Speaker 1: they they found they moved the ball at times on
Speaker 1: the ground, especially, so it wasn't an out and out disaster.
Speaker 1: Um that you might expect, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: results are results, and this is a relatively easy win
Speaker 1: from Miami, despite the fact that it looks like it
Speaker 1: was somewhat close, right, I mean, trying to take some
Speaker 1: sort of moral victory, and I've seen You're not the
Speaker 1: only one positioning it this way. I could. I've seen
Speaker 1: it sort in some Patriots circles like well, actually, the
Speaker 1: running game looked pretty professional for most of it. They
Speaker 1: just had to go away from it and they moved
Speaker 1: the ball. It's like if you're trying to spin positives
Speaker 1: out of a seven point performance where you lose by
Speaker 1: thirteen against a Dolphins team, that's you know, it's not
Speaker 1: seventy two Dolphins here. Uh. That just shows you where
Speaker 1: the bar is right now, and it's at a different
Speaker 1: level than than I think I can remember in the
Speaker 1: last twenty years. It's concerning they did lose the turnover
Speaker 1: battle three to nothing that there's no way they're going
Speaker 1: to be able to survive that way that's been there.
Speaker 1: Their most consistent aspect to the Bill Belichick regime is
Speaker 1: turnover margin. Even with Mac Jones last year, it's one
Speaker 1: of the ways they ended up being in the top
Speaker 1: ten in scoring as they had all these short fields
Speaker 1: and that's that's the way they're gonna have to win
Speaker 1: this year. And it was the opposite today. The Athletic
Speaker 1: wrote it this way. The scheme was bad, the receivers
Speaker 1: couldn't get open, the line struggled, a bad day all
Speaker 1: around for the offense. And I guess what I'm concerned
Speaker 1: about a little bit is because I think that we
Speaker 1: were contemplating a reality where like the regular season begins, uh,
Speaker 1: switches flipped in all this summertime, issues, problems, concerns over
Speaker 1: the offense go away, and it's it seems to me
Speaker 1: to be I don't know. I mean, I've been more
Speaker 1: optimistic others. I didn't even think that would happen. I
Speaker 1: think this is gonna take time. But I don't think
Speaker 1: it's cold. It's it's not. You can't say it's a
Speaker 1: good start. I want to know, like, who are the
Speaker 1: playmakers on this team. Kendrick Born led the team in
Speaker 1: receiving last year, didn't even play until the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: He's been in the doghouse. I don't know what can
Speaker 1: they afford to stuff like And this is maybe he's
Speaker 1: getting to her like a more broad um insight on
Speaker 1: the Patriots or an attempt at insight that you could
Speaker 1: us you can get away with that stuff when Tom
Speaker 1: Brady was the quarterback, if born as a guy that
Speaker 1: can make plays, get him on the field, figure out
Speaker 1: whatever it is, get it worked out, or get him
Speaker 1: out of the building and find someone else that can
Speaker 1: make those plays. So I wasn't overly uh one over
Speaker 1: by TWA and the offense, yet I know it was
Speaker 1: an again a nice win. You get, you beat New
Speaker 1: England again, which is becoming a regular thing for the
Speaker 1: Dolphins lately. But I still need to see more from
Speaker 1: their offense. Will be interesting how they do against Baltimore.
Speaker 1: In Baltimore. The Ravens played very well against the Jets
Speaker 1: on defense today. But the Patriots, we're gonna see Greggy,
Speaker 1: especially if mac Jones is injured. That's a major problem. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're early is not easy as well. I do think
Speaker 1: that you can look at certain situations with two uh
Speaker 1: and in this game, you know, first getting the ball
Speaker 1: that much to Tyreek Hill and letting him make some
Speaker 1: plays after the catch early, but that forty two yard
Speaker 1: touchdown to Jalen Waddle with eighteen seconds left in the
Speaker 1: first half. You know, probably the key playing the game
Speaker 1: along with that fumble return for the touchdown that's on
Speaker 1: a fourth and seven in a in an awkward part
Speaker 1: of the field, that with that much time left, there's
Speaker 1: twenty four seconds left to start to play that if
Speaker 1: if it's an incompletion there, you know, the Patriots have
Speaker 1: twenty seconds to to go get a field goal. But
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel, um, I think showing some stones, showing some
Speaker 1: confidence in his young quarterback. For yeah, we can call
Speaker 1: them stones. I've we've learned what we can talk about.
Speaker 1: You can talk stones that you know, that's showing something
Speaker 1: that's a that's not a short fourth down to go for,
Speaker 1: and for him to reward that confidence with a nice
Speaker 1: strike that that Jalen Waddle does the work. That's great.
Speaker 1: Trying who's on the call for CBS in this game.
Speaker 1: Maybe he was Dan Fouts, Fouts is still there, right,
Speaker 1: Fouts gone, I can't remember. Whoever it was was saying, oh,
Speaker 1: they should not be doing this, they should not be
Speaker 1: going for this fourth down near midfield for the reasons
Speaker 1: Greg said. And then Jalen Wattle catches ball and stride
Speaker 1: and he's gone. So that was kind of a turning
Speaker 1: point in this game, I do. Tyree Hill did speak
Speaker 1: with Adam Arceletta along with Greg Gumbels. He completely it
Speaker 1: was Archiletta who's doubting it, and then Archieletta said, you
Speaker 1: know what that take I take that back anyway, Tyree Hill.
Speaker 1: He was wearing his uh, the viper what are they called,
Speaker 1: pit vipers? Whatever those classes are, it's not gonna age
Speaker 1: well and keeps asking us unanswerable questions. The pit pit vipers?
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Graver? You're young. I got
Speaker 1: thumbs up from people. He's wearing the pit vipers and
Speaker 1: the pit vipers. I just want to let everybody know
Speaker 1: that lived through the early nineties as a teen when
Speaker 1: stuff like this was popular. It's gonna look really stupid
Speaker 1: and like ten twelve years I see what I see
Speaker 1: what you're looking at now. Yeah, that's a hideous choice
Speaker 1: for He was watching his pit vipers in the locker
Speaker 1: room and talking up Mike McDaniels, who has stones for days.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I said this outside man like, hey McDaniels,
Speaker 1: he's gonna need a wheelbarrow man for the can because
Speaker 1: you got a lot of you know what, I'm saying
Speaker 1: so Gussie called by him we had two um ways
Speaker 1: to describe men's testicles that were bleeped out there, but
Speaker 1: just no, that's what he was referring to. The man's
Speaker 1: got gumption. He also called Hi McDaniels. I would maybe
Speaker 1: at some point, because you know, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of writers and others did the same out of the gate.
Speaker 1: But your your head coach's last name is McDaniel. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna let you know. I didn't even realize I
Speaker 1: was stealing Tyreek Hill's bit there, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I took his point. I I said that he had
Speaker 1: I thought you were I thought you were just building tonight.
Speaker 1: It was a reference to it because we are like
Speaker 1: um some people that we've worked out over the years.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of one in particular who no longer is
Speaker 1: at our company, but we used to do a show
Speaker 1: with him. If you would say something in a pre
Speaker 1: show meeting, he would always steal whatever your point is
Speaker 1: and then use it on the show. That was kind
Speaker 1: of what I did to Tyreek Hill right there. Well,
Speaker 1: I think he'll get over it. And by the way,
Speaker 1: there was a at hard Rock Stadium. There was a
Speaker 1: stadium fire. Someone left on their their grill and then
Speaker 1: it blew up a bunch of cars. So you can
Speaker 1: connect that to the Patriots and their offense however you want.
Speaker 1: But it was an implosion of some kind for New England.
Speaker 1: And let's see how they get back on track. If
Speaker 1: they can, let's move on to another a f C
Speaker 1: East team that once again is trying to get back
Speaker 1: on track. The Jets hosted the Ravens at the Meadow Ends.
Speaker 1: Lamar winding up going deep for Batman. He's got him touchdown.
Speaker 1: Third touchdown today for Lamar Jackson and that was a
Speaker 1: strike from deep fifty five yards. How long? How long
Speaker 1: must we sing this song? Hellong? Hellong? Jerry Sandusky with
Speaker 1: the call w B A L. Lamar Jackson threw three
Speaker 1: touchdown passes, including two to Devonne do Rene. I mean,
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? I touchdowns or whatever? The
Speaker 1: Ravens roll past the Jets on a rainy Sunday, very
Speaker 1: very talented group. Jackson went seventeen of thirty two thirteen
Speaker 1: yards touched under Seoan Bateman through one pick uh. This
Speaker 1: came after ESPN reported that Jackson had turned down a
Speaker 1: five year extension worth more than two fifty million dollars.
Speaker 1: So he's pulling, he's doing the iron judge move. He's
Speaker 1: betting on himself, and he says, I'm going to be
Speaker 1: the highest paid player in the world after I finished
Speaker 1: this season. So starting off well for Jackson didn't run
Speaker 1: much in this game. Uh. In fact, Ravens didn't do
Speaker 1: much in this game on offense. Initially, the Jets defense
Speaker 1: came out flying around, but the Ravens defense was better
Speaker 1: because and part of that is Jets don't have Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: The Jets have Joe Flacco and Joe Flacco in front
Speaker 1: of a line that can't really block well right now,
Speaker 1: with George Fans struggling specifically after being moving back to
Speaker 1: left tackle, after being at right tackle, after being at
Speaker 1: left tackle, snip snap, snip snap, and then they lost
Speaker 1: their right tackle right they had a rookie. Uh, they
Speaker 1: put in a rookie. I might have missed that. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that if he went out with Anyway,
Speaker 1: the point is that Jets could not move the ball.
Speaker 1: The Ravens made enough plays and then in the third
Speaker 1: quarter hit on a couple of big ones and this
Speaker 1: game was over. So very disappointing if your Jets fan,
Speaker 1: if you're a Ravens fan, it's a big turn the
Speaker 1: page after last year's frustrations and you move on with
Speaker 1: the w in your back pocket you were expecting to get.
Speaker 1: Are you concerned, I know that you said the defense
Speaker 1: came out playing well for the Jets. Are you concerned
Speaker 1: about the coaching overall, the offensive coaching or is it
Speaker 1: just the Joe Flacco can't do it anymore? Yeah? I don't.
Speaker 1: I think with Jets fans we're just sick of it.
Speaker 1: It's just like, come on now, I don't want to
Speaker 1: hear any excuses. I think Robert Salo and Joe Douglas
Speaker 1: and and you could say, yeah, sure, Joe Flacco was
Speaker 1: in there, so whatever. But at the same time, we've
Speaker 1: heard some not so great things about Zack Wilson's development
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, and he's coming off a bad rookie year.
Speaker 1: So the idea, now we're gonna switch. You're gonna ask
Speaker 1: Jets fans now to switch from Oh, let's get behind
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco. Maybe we'll keep the job too. Oh man,
Speaker 1: if we could just get Zack Wilson back, we need
Speaker 1: to Flacco more than any people outside the Flacco family. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: so when we're expected, when we're being told by Robert
Speaker 1: Salo what a great player Joe Flacco still is. And
Speaker 1: then this is the performance by the offense. Yeah, it's disappointing.
Speaker 1: And it was a sloppy performance overall by the Jets,
Speaker 1: who dropped, drop touchdown passes, fumbled the ball, just didn't
Speaker 1: play well. And uh, you know, on the raven side,
Speaker 1: just a great job by their defense, which obviously had
Speaker 1: a nice assignment in Week one, but they just took
Speaker 1: care of business and they were able on offense to
Speaker 1: get by. We didn't have Ronnie Stanley in this game,
Speaker 1: the left tackle, but then Juwan James, who the poor
Speaker 1: guy just can't stay healthy. He goes out again and
Speaker 1: gets carded. So they finished the game with their third
Speaker 1: string left tackle. But they're still moving the ball and
Speaker 1: scoring points when they need to in this game. So
Speaker 1: they're just two franchises in different places. And if you're
Speaker 1: a Jets fan, it is not too soon to panic
Speaker 1: because this is not supposed to be the way this
Speaker 1: game played out. My dad, Keith Hanss, who was supposed
Speaker 1: to give us a dispatch today, he went to the
Speaker 1: meadow Lands with some family friends, did the whole tailgating
Speaker 1: and went there and got rained on and watched a
Speaker 1: team no show, and it's just like enough, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go. Let's start doing something and giving the fans
Speaker 1: something to at least root for, because again the calendar changes,
Speaker 1: nothing seems to change for the Jets. Good job by
Speaker 1: oh it sure is. I think I think the Ravens,
Speaker 1: who are still short some key players. J K. Dobbins
Speaker 1: was out, you know, we know Gus Edwards is out,
Speaker 1: so Kenyan Drake was there, you know, leading rusher and
Speaker 1: uh well, if you want to call it that, running games.
Speaker 1: So that's a little that's a little bit of a concern.
Speaker 1: But I think they have to feel good. Granted it's
Speaker 1: against the Jets, but they have their secondary back and
Speaker 1: they're like a back to front type of defense. Make
Speaker 1: the other quarterback hold the ball so that the pressure
Speaker 1: can get there. And I went into this game, you know,
Speaker 1: really thinking if there is a weakness on this entire team,
Speaker 1: it's their pass thrush. They did get eleven quarterback hits.
Speaker 1: I know it's against Joe Flacco throwing the ball fifty
Speaker 1: nine times. Fifty nine times Joe Flacco through a fifty
Speaker 1: nine times. I know it was. You know that's because
Speaker 1: of the guess the opener against Peyton Manning, like he
Speaker 1: looked really old. And we know that Joe, even in
Speaker 1: the best of times, was never a mobile guy. But
Speaker 1: when you really have these statues behind an offensive line,
Speaker 1: it does remind you, especially in the modern game as
Speaker 1: fast as it is now, when you have a guy
Speaker 1: can't make any yardage up, it can evade the pressure
Speaker 1: and turn negatives into um positive plays and scramble and
Speaker 1: get yards. It just puts you in an even tougher
Speaker 1: box in terms of your offense. So very poor start.
Speaker 1: No excuses for Sale or Douglas or anyone else. That's
Speaker 1: enough of this, Like, you need to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to be competitive in your building to start a season.
Speaker 1: You've got seventy five thousand Jets fans who put up
Speaker 1: with BS for a decade straight, and that's how you
Speaker 1: started this season. They sat in the rain and waited
Speaker 1: for three and a half hours for something to cheer for,
Speaker 1: and you gave them nothing. This is no longer acceptable.
Speaker 1: It has been acceptable for half a decade. Now we're
Speaker 1: not gonna take it Jets fans are going to boo
Speaker 1: boo lustily and everyone heads will roll. If this happens again,
Speaker 1: we shall see You're going to You're going to Cleveland
Speaker 1: next week. We'll see how that goes. I don't my
Speaker 1: guard's up about this season. After a performance like that,
Speaker 1: should we take a break? I think yes? Oh man, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break and uh continue on. All right,
Speaker 1: we're back. Let's get to a great rivalry game. New
Speaker 1: Orleans and Atlanta. They hate each other. Let's see what
Speaker 1: happened in Georgia. Twenty three seconds loft Will Lots, kick
Speaker 1: is down and the kick is good. Well, Lots puts
Speaker 1: the Saints off top. What's nineteen seconds to playing? Mike
Speaker 1: Costs with the call w W L Lots. They missed
Speaker 1: Lots last year. Now they got him back. He had
Speaker 1: a core injury. He kicked a fifty one yard field
Speaker 1: goal nineteen seconds to play. After Jameis Winston lead a
Speaker 1: pair of late touchdown drives and the SATs steel to
Speaker 1: twenty six victory away from the Falcons and Dennis Allen's
Speaker 1: coaching debut mark. The Saints struggled to get into a
Speaker 1: groove offensively, but they did just in time. This game
Speaker 1: was insane. I think, you know, with twelve minutes to
Speaker 1: go in the final quarter, the Saints were down twenty
Speaker 1: six to ten, and I imagine myself coming on this
Speaker 1: show to talk with you about what I had witnessed,
Speaker 1: and it was all Falcons who put the heat on
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston early on. I had to pivot, but I
Speaker 1: want to talk about them to start, because you know,
Speaker 1: that's another team that I think people just said bottom
Speaker 1: three material, no skill position players, all sorts of issues
Speaker 1: on defense. Dean P's came out in this the defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator going after Winston, going after that line, and they
Speaker 1: were winning the battle. And then at some point in
Speaker 1: that fourth quarter, Jamis Winston turned magical and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we we know he can do this kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But he over the course of these two touchdown drives,
Speaker 1: went eleven for twelve for a hundred and fifty seven
Speaker 1: hundred fifty seven yards and hitting money two point conversion
Speaker 1: as well. I think that they're receiving Corpsy got will
Speaker 1: Let's back. But Jarvis Lander had a hundred and fourteen
Speaker 1: yards and a couple of big plays in this big
Speaker 1: signing for very little for very little. Chris Lavy had
Speaker 1: got going, Michael Thomas the reson they were not connecting
Speaker 1: early on, and Jamis winstonets and throws that were a
Speaker 1: little bit behind. They got hot towards the end and
Speaker 1: you could just see the chemistry. And it kind of
Speaker 1: for me with New Orleans because I I they're a
Speaker 1: weird team there are They told us all offseason that
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill was going to be a tight end. We
Speaker 1: just should ever believed him. But he was taking direct
Speaker 1: snaps out of the backfield and making all sorts of
Speaker 1: big plays too, And so the Saints, not surprisingly are
Speaker 1: a fun watch, but I was real concerned about him
Speaker 1: through three plus quarters until they turn it around. And
Speaker 1: if you're the Falcons number one, This Corderrel Patterson thing,
Speaker 1: which a year ago I thought was just gonna be
Speaker 1: maybe a one year kind of flash in the pan
Speaker 1: undred and twenty yards of twenty two carries, had some
Speaker 1: big plays in this and was taking it to the
Speaker 1: Saints defense as well. Marcus Mariota, He's not perfect, but
Speaker 1: I also think that they're the way the Arthur Smith
Speaker 1: uses these guys like the Falcons were fun to watch.
Speaker 1: I can not expect This is the worst loss. They
Speaker 1: totally gagged and it is a bad loss. But I
Speaker 1: just think expectations wise though, if we're gonna look at
Speaker 1: them as a middle mid range team, I mean, they
Speaker 1: can do some things. It is a disappointing loss because
Speaker 1: you cannot crumble that way they had the Saints in
Speaker 1: Week one at home. The fact that it's the Saints,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the Saints. I choked before the game.
Speaker 1: The fact that I didn't draft this game. It's my
Speaker 1: own fault. I've said it so many times on this show.
Speaker 1: You guys are sick of it. This is the best
Speaker 1: rivalry in the NFL because the fans hate each other.
Speaker 1: I think more than any two fan bases hate each other,
Speaker 1: and the game's always deliver. You might have that you
Speaker 1: know number eight and you know Fox team on the call,
Speaker 1: but who cares. This was the best game of the day,
Speaker 1: just just for the insanity that you score seventeen points
Speaker 1: in the last eleven minutes and then you have the
Speaker 1: Saints players Duncan on the Falcons like in their press
Speaker 1: cont it's like waving Falcons flags like it's a real rivalry.
Speaker 1: And to lose it at home in front of your
Speaker 1: stunned fans. It's as bad of a loss as you
Speaker 1: could have. And for what for Winston? I mean you
Speaker 1: mentioned it. In those three drives he had one in
Speaker 1: completion in two hundred and thirteen yards in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: he was he was like Pique Joe Montana for one
Speaker 1: quarter of his life work. I mean, they're they're very
Speaker 1: solid team. They have a good defense, and they have
Speaker 1: a nice running game. And these receivers. Now if this
Speaker 1: is Landry and Landry's gotta stay healthy. Of course that's
Speaker 1: been an issue. Michael Thomas of course has to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: But you add those guys on the field, and if
Speaker 1: a is a guy that's going to continue to develop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Thomas was literally foaming at the mouth at one point.
Speaker 1: Did you see that, Mark? I think it was maybe
Speaker 1: after the two points. I think he might need to
Speaker 1: get a Raby ship. He was just so fired up
Speaker 1: after scoring. He had two touchdowns that and he was
Speaker 1: just like a guy. It was this trash talking on
Speaker 1: the sideline. I'm not sure to who and then spit
Speaker 1: was all over his own that. I think you've now
Speaker 1: laid out everything that could possibly because like they missed
Speaker 1: that intensity though, like he one thing I remember from
Speaker 1: that run and he was so young in it back
Speaker 1: in what seventeen when they probably should have won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He was like their team leader as a
Speaker 1: rookie and a second year player. And so if he's healthy,
Speaker 1: I think he adds like a something special even beyond
Speaker 1: his production. I'll ask you this mark. So I think
Speaker 1: it's great the Cordell Patterson has a chance to, you know,
Speaker 1: put together another really productive season. Here has certainly started
Speaker 1: out well. Mariota's numbers don't look terrible, not overwhelming. Drake
Speaker 1: London was involved in his first game. But how is
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts only have two catches for nineteen yards? I
Speaker 1: mean that has to be for this Mariota thing to work,
Speaker 1: He's got to have that chemistry with Pitts, who is
Speaker 1: supposed to be a guy that's putting up big numbers
Speaker 1: every week. Now is the answers year two? He struggled together.
Speaker 1: I I if that's more of a Saints matchup thing,
Speaker 1: because I I want to give that more time. But
Speaker 1: you know, this is supposed to be a matchup proof.
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe you know credit to Dennis Allen
Speaker 1: and company. There, they took him out. I mean he
Speaker 1: he had seven targets into two catches. So it wasn't
Speaker 1: as if Mariotta totally ignored him, just it was not
Speaker 1: a productive day. I like Drake London made a couple
Speaker 1: of big plays in this too. I mean, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I get what you're saying that it's the worst loss,
Speaker 1: but the expectations for the Falcons were like five. I
Speaker 1: just mean, if you're there and you're a fan, or
Speaker 1: it would suck, but like high that you were at
Speaker 1: with twelve minutes left to losing that games, I thought
Speaker 1: it was promising in the past rush that that we
Speaker 1: thought didn't even exist in Atlanta. Alright, so oh pull
Speaker 1: that one out, bros. The Cincinnati Zoo. They get a
Speaker 1: lock out of that game. You shouldn't. They should have
Speaker 1: to give it back, and this is it's a good
Speaker 1: harbinger for them though, if they can pull this out
Speaker 1: of it. They did a big Crystal Lave a game too,
Speaker 1: and he didn't have give it to him. Then he
Speaker 1: made a key revoked the block try next week, Crystal
Speaker 1: Lovey did not have a big game. I think he
Speaker 1: did help helps set up you know that It's like
Speaker 1: Mark's elaborate sandwich props. You gotta nail all of it.
Speaker 1: You can't leave this horse shoes. This is not a
Speaker 1: hand grename. All right, Let's move on to Houston. You're
Speaker 1: smelling upset sort of chip for blankets ship to try
Speaker 1: to win the game. For the Indianapolis Colts, Hawk is
Speaker 1: the holder, snap is down, the kick is up. It's good.
Speaker 1: The Texas cocked like a chip messing. That's the sound
Speaker 1: of that kick beering right. Don Rodrigo blakenship blanket and
Speaker 1: yanked it. Lego Man pushed it. Matt Ryan rallied Indianapolis
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter to force overtime against the Texans
Speaker 1: and his Cults debut, but neither team could score in overtime.
Speaker 1: Both blanked in their two possessions in the extra period,
Speaker 1: blank and Ship, blank and yanked final Houston. Sometimes sometimes
Speaker 1: uh tie is a loss. Sometimes it tie feels like
Speaker 1: a win. If you're the Texans and Lovey Smith, you're
Speaker 1: up twenty to three entering the fourth quarter. But how
Speaker 1: about let's talk, Greggy. Let's talk Houston punting the ball
Speaker 1: at midfield and overtime and playing for a tie, Because
Speaker 1: I mean if you want listen, you hire Lovey Smith,
Speaker 1: You're gonna get Lovey Smith things. And we like Lovey Smith,
Speaker 1: but I didn't like who plays for a tie in anything?
Speaker 1: Really weird? Lov Smith plays for a tie? What was
Speaker 1: the down and distance? It wasn't like fourth and thirty six. No,
Speaker 1: it was fourth and three from the forty nine yard
Speaker 1: line with seconds. What what are we doing? Fourth and
Speaker 1: read from midfield? Here Here was Lovey Smith's explanation for
Speaker 1: white Beard. These are the announcers talking about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's hear it. I mean, if you have nothing to lose,
Speaker 1: if your love you here, No, they're gonna punt. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is playing for the tie, but but nothing a
Speaker 1: tie is better than what also from from beyond all
Speaker 1: of it than what are you telling your locker rooms saying,
Speaker 1: hey man, nobody thought were gonna win, and you know
Speaker 1: we almost won, but we didn't lose, so we're actually
Speaker 1: cool with a tie. Fourth and twelve, fourth and fifteen, Okay,
Speaker 1: I get it. Fourth and three. You're one completion away
Speaker 1: from being in field goal range and scoring one of
Speaker 1: the biggest upsets of Week one that that would stick
Speaker 1: to my ribs as a fan of that team and
Speaker 1: and he basically said, like a tie is better than
Speaker 1: a loss. He said, I thought a tie was better
Speaker 1: than a potential loss. And uh, he said, we it's
Speaker 1: not like he also said, in kind of throwing his
Speaker 1: own team under the bus, it's not like we were
Speaker 1: playing our best defense at the time. We were drained.
Speaker 1: I would have said, in love his defense, they weren't
Speaker 1: playing the best offense on at the time. They did
Speaker 1: not look like a team that was equally good to
Speaker 1: the Colts. They were outgained by more than two hundred yards.
Speaker 1: There were many, uh lucky moments for the Texans in
Speaker 1: this game. They made a Jerry Hughes made a great
Speaker 1: interception on a screenplay, but that was a little flukey,
Speaker 1: like Alec Pierce of the Colts dropped a wide open
Speaker 1: touchdown that they ended up getting no points off of
Speaker 1: the Colts in the first half. That the Colts Rodrigo
Speaker 1: Blanketship not only missed that kick, but kicked two kickoffs
Speaker 1: out of bounds I believe in a row, or at
Speaker 1: least two out of three in the second half. You
Speaker 1: know what the Texans did with those kids, Absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: These were the Texans offense at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: And I think this is what Lovey might have and thinking,
Speaker 1: and he just didn't want to say it. He's saying,
Speaker 1: our defense might be tired. Uh, here was Davis Mills
Speaker 1: in the second half. Punt fumble, punt, punt, pun, punt,
Speaker 1: and Davis Mills his numbers were fine, thirty seven to
Speaker 1: forty for two. This was an ultimate you gotta watch
Speaker 1: the game performance because in key moments he was inaccurate.
Speaker 1: He made some bad decisions, and I know they just
Speaker 1: didn't all come back to haunt him, but he just
Speaker 1: he wasn't right, and especially down the stretch of that game,
Speaker 1: they were like hanging on for dear life, and I
Speaker 1: guess they sort of did. I just added up all
Speaker 1: those second half drives. You mentioned. They had seventy three
Speaker 1: total yards in the second half. I am not I
Speaker 1: don't agree with the decision at all, but I mean
Speaker 1: I can understand a defensive minded love you Smith not
Speaker 1: really trusting this offense today. He was. He was for seeing,
Speaker 1: let's sit down, saying you gotta make gonna go for it.
Speaker 1: He was seeing a situation where the worst, you know,
Speaker 1: a terrible game, and he knew what that loss felt
Speaker 1: like for a second because he was expecting black and
Speaker 1: Chips kick to go in. They had blown the game,
Speaker 1: and Frank Reich did the Mike Rabele thing. He kind
Speaker 1: of set up for a long blank and chip kick
Speaker 1: instead of keeping the pedal on the gas. There and
Speaker 1: a real coaching exhibition here. Um, I think you know
Speaker 1: what you're explaining, and I'm gonna watch us tomorrow. Like
Speaker 1: what Lovely Smith can't say is what he feels in
Speaker 1: that situation. And he didn't coach his team last year.
Speaker 1: He's new. His feeling is my team is not good enough.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take a tie as as a win
Speaker 1: for us because we're lucky to even be in this position.
Speaker 1: But it's just weird when it's that close and it's
Speaker 1: twenty two three entering the fourth quarter. It's the gutless
Speaker 1: move the week. It's also like that little time left,
Speaker 1: like all you there would be under twenty seconds to
Speaker 1: go for you to stop them from getting into field
Speaker 1: goal range. Let's let's have a little confidence. But before
Speaker 1: moving on quickly, though, I have to give Reich some
Speaker 1: credit and Jonathan Taylor even more. The Colts are the
Speaker 1: only team in the NFL who falls down three score
Speaker 1: and catches up with the running game. They stayed very
Speaker 1: run heavy. In fact, I thought they kind of went
Speaker 1: away from the run a little too much in the
Speaker 1: third quarter, and as they were making that comeback, it
Speaker 1: was almost all running. They were down three scores. They
Speaker 1: took a field goal early in that process to make
Speaker 1: it fourteen points, and I was like, oh, you're taking
Speaker 1: the field goal to make it fourteen And they just
Speaker 1: kept handing the ball off to Jonathan Taylor, who had
Speaker 1: thirty one carries for a hundred and sixty one yards
Speaker 1: and it worked even down three scores. He was the
Speaker 1: key to the company. So he's the man. Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: also threw fifty passes. It's Matt Ryan well protected behind
Speaker 1: this line. I kept reading that the first staff especially,
Speaker 1: he was under a lot of I don't like that.
Speaker 1: For Matt Ryan. I thought he played okay in this game.
Speaker 1: He was not bad. Uh the first half. He was
Speaker 1: under a lot of pressure. All right, Let's head towards
Speaker 1: our nation's capital, well near it. On the third and
Speaker 1: eight jacksonal break six towards to polly Kill. Talk about
Speaker 1: the rookie faith and he has some of the best
Speaker 1: hands there are London. We are saying that action Day Weinstein,
Speaker 1: Julie Donaldson, w B I g with the call. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this, if you are a fantasy person, go
Speaker 1: to your waiverward. Just make sure John Dodson's not, you know,
Speaker 1: accounted for it. If he's not, get him on your
Speaker 1: roster because that guy is gonna be an instant contributor.
Speaker 1: Nugget was one of my nugs, one of my takeaways
Speaker 1: from a win for the Commanders who took command in
Speaker 1: Week one, beat the Jaguars and uh Carson Wentz. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what. Not a perfect game, not by any stretch.
Speaker 1: He threw interceptions on consecutive plays, and at that point
Speaker 1: the Jaguars took the lead as a result of his mistakes.
Speaker 1: But he rebounded and he had his first four touchdown
Speaker 1: game since, A faithful day in his career, a faithful
Speaker 1: day in the history of the Philadelphia Eagles. The day
Speaker 1: toris a c l on his left knee while on
Speaker 1: that scramble in December. So does that mean like this
Speaker 1: is the Wents that's here now, the guy that was
Speaker 1: gonna win m VP that year before he blew out
Speaker 1: his knee. No, that he still looks like Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: uh to me and the good and the bad. But
Speaker 1: it was a reminder of Wentz, who was a punching
Speaker 1: bag um really for years now, but especially this summer.
Speaker 1: And it was kind of seen as a joke that
Speaker 1: Washington could even think it could work with him, that
Speaker 1: when Wentz is feeling it and he can get going
Speaker 1: and he can make plays and he can move an offense.
Speaker 1: And that's what he did because this was a game,
Speaker 1: uh mark, where the Jaguars looked like they were gonna
Speaker 1: take command, like they had taken the punches, they had
Speaker 1: said thank you Carson Wentz for these gifts, and now
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a huge win and we're gonna show
Speaker 1: that we're not the same old Jacks. No. Wentz recovered
Speaker 1: and so did Washington and now they're wanted decided to
Speaker 1: really go ahead and start well. I mean, and you
Speaker 1: know it, Wentz had his mistakes, and that's my thing
Speaker 1: with Wentz is he's going to be productive. But you're
Speaker 1: waiting for that killer scenario, that killer action. That's not
Speaker 1: a perfect quarter at all. But Trevor Lawrence, who you know,
Speaker 1: we all project to have a big season for the environment,
Speaker 1: around him. That's so much better at this point. He
Speaker 1: had a terrible interception at the end of this game.
Speaker 1: He did he did it was a I want to
Speaker 1: think what the down a distance was, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: a um situation where he needed to make the throw
Speaker 1: he did. He kind of threw it up for grabs
Speaker 1: and under threw it and that was essentially uh the
Speaker 1: end of the game. And this was a team that
Speaker 1: was last in turnover margin last year minus twenty UM,
Speaker 1: but they were able to force three turnovers in this game,
Speaker 1: two interceptions and a fumble recovery. Um. The two picks
Speaker 1: set up ten points, so they you know, tray Von
Speaker 1: Walker had a interception on a screen pass attempt by Wentz.
Speaker 1: He had a sack as well, so that that was
Speaker 1: a very good sign um. But now we need Lawrence
Speaker 1: to clean an up a little bit. He was flagged
Speaker 1: twice for intentional grounding. He had the interception that Mark
Speaker 1: is alluding to. So they didn't show their ability, even
Speaker 1: with Doug Peterson there to find a way to win
Speaker 1: a game. But they were right there. They they're just losing.
Speaker 1: Is such a habit for this team that there's all
Speaker 1: these players that have been around for a few years,
Speaker 1: and I know there's a new players. I mean, they've
Speaker 1: done more losing than any team in the NFL, and
Speaker 1: like that's in the DNA. They they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: change it at some point soon. But they did get
Speaker 1: a lot of production out of you know, Christian Kirk,
Speaker 1: ands A Jones there their free agent pickups and E
Speaker 1: t N had a decent games in Dropper at a
Speaker 1: decent game, did have a decent game, but he also
Speaker 1: dropped a fourth in gold swing pass wide open. It
Speaker 1: was a little high. We should have had it and
Speaker 1: there was right And there was another one where he
Speaker 1: was open for a touchdown and Lawrence missed him. So
Speaker 1: it's those little things that are actually big things. And
Speaker 1: if you're Washington fan, I mean, this is sort of
Speaker 1: what you drew up on paper, especially a year ago.
Speaker 1: But now like Curtis Samuel had a game, like he
Speaker 1: caught eight passes, John Dotson is in the mix, caught
Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns, mccoran had one big play. Antonio
Speaker 1: Gibson is now the main dude again and puts up
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty two yards like they have players
Speaker 1: around Wentz. It's just like against better teams, are those
Speaker 1: interceptions gonna hurt more? I mean, Graver came down and
Speaker 1: here I know justin you were watching this game, and
Speaker 1: it's like he was like, yeah, I thought Wentz played
Speaker 1: pretty well except for those two terrible interception. I just
Speaker 1: was thinking, like, how many times has that been said
Speaker 1: about Wentz in his career? That's that's sort of the experience.
Speaker 1: I will say this. I read this um somewhere after
Speaker 1: the game and I thought it was interesting because it
Speaker 1: was well, let me say what it is. So Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz goes to the sideline after throwing the uh second
Speaker 1: interception on consecutive plays, goes there and he looks at
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera on the sideline head coach, and Rivera says
Speaker 1: to him, hey, you're gonna have to win this. Wentz responded,
Speaker 1: I will before walking away. It's dramatic. It's a nice lead.
Speaker 1: But you know what else it is. It's the opposite
Speaker 1: of Carson Wentz is Indianapolis experience where Frank Reich had
Speaker 1: no confidence and especially as the season went along and
Speaker 1: you could see I'm thinking of that Saturday December again
Speaker 1: against the Patriots, or like trying to hold on for
Speaker 1: dear life and wouldn't even let him make a throw.
Speaker 1: Like if Rivera is a little outside the box and
Speaker 1: gives Carson wants a chance, maybe he gets some mojo
Speaker 1: cooking and Washington surprises people. We'll see one game in.
Speaker 1: It's a nice day for the Commanders. We got the
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz experience, and we're gonna get it again. I
Speaker 1: mean that, yeah, man, that's fair. But it's also a
Speaker 1: great example saying I will and then doing it of
Speaker 1: taking command kind of yeah, he's like getting ready to
Speaker 1: you know, kind of I will. He was alluding to
Speaker 1: this day. This was it was all building to this moment.
Speaker 1: All right. We got one more game, Sunday night football.
Speaker 1: We sent Greg home not feeling well, but we got
Speaker 1: some business to get to from Jaral World. A bad
Speaker 1: night at Jaral World for the home team. First of
Speaker 1: go for fun, yes, sir, touchdown Tom Brady to Mike
Speaker 1: Evans like old times. It was the only touchdown of
Speaker 1: the game, but throwing a few more field goals and
Speaker 1: it was more than enough for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Speaker 1: but begin their season on a winning note nineteen to
Speaker 1: three over the Cowboys. And if you're the Cowboys or
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan, this could not have been worse. Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: fourteen and thirty four yards, no touchdowns, an interception, bangs
Speaker 1: his hand uh during a pass rush um by the
Speaker 1: Bucks late in the game, X rays and the worst
Speaker 1: news the Cowboys could get he needs surgery for an
Speaker 1: injury in the joint above the thumb of his right hand.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, team owner, tells reporters shortly after the game,
Speaker 1: He's going to be out several weeks. So Mark not
Speaker 1: only and we'll get to the Bucks, but I think
Speaker 1: the Cowboys of the story coming out of this game,
Speaker 1: not only do you no show uh in your opener
Speaker 1: at home, you now lose your quarterback. And when you
Speaker 1: combine those two things, it paints a very ominous picture
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys near and potentially long term future this season. Well,
Speaker 1: even before this happened, the energy around this team tonight,
Speaker 1: their performance on offense, what was lacking, what was missing
Speaker 1: what we thought would be missing, which was wide receiver strength, depth,
Speaker 1: and it was they cannot win on the outside. And
Speaker 1: even before Dak Prescott was injured, this was not the
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott were used to seeing. This might have been
Speaker 1: one of his worst games that I can recall, and
Speaker 1: there were moments where he just was out of sync.
Speaker 1: We're talking about guys like Ceedee Lamon need to step up.
Speaker 1: It's just not the case tonight. And so the offense
Speaker 1: looked lacking. And what is even more concerning because I
Speaker 1: don't know how long he'll be gone, obviously, but they've
Speaker 1: got the Bengals, then the Giants, who look a little
Speaker 1: spicy right now, then Washington, and then if it goes
Speaker 1: on beyond that, the Rams and Eagles, and what I
Speaker 1: think what we've seen from Cooper Rush tells you Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush is not adequate to come in and win games,
Speaker 1: and he was. He was a big mess tonight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we need to know more about how long that's going
Speaker 1: to be out, but it sounds like this is not
Speaker 1: going to be something. It might be October, who knows,
Speaker 1: but it's it's a situation that this season is in
Speaker 1: deep trouble immediately for the Cowboys. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: an overreaction. And you're right, Dak Prescott before he went
Speaker 1: out was not having a good game, and Ceedee Lamb
Speaker 1: he had a bad game. And these are two very
Speaker 1: good players that need to be great for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to win this division and get back to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And one night only neither played well and now one's
Speaker 1: on the shelf, and it's the most important guy to
Speaker 1: the team, and so you have to keep an eye
Speaker 1: on how the Cowboys handled this because he had Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush is not one of the better backups in football,
Speaker 1: and this could be, this could be the recipe. Let's
Speaker 1: be honest, for one of those oh and three one
Speaker 1: in five type starts and all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 1: all over for Dallas. So that that's a devastating setback
Speaker 1: for the team, both from a game and from a
Speaker 1: long term respect with dak Out on the on the
Speaker 1: buck side, you know, I thought, even though the scoreboard
Speaker 1: doesn't tell the story of an exciting game nineteen to three,
Speaker 1: they only had one touchdown, but they also didn't punt
Speaker 1: until late in the third quarter. They controlled the flow.
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette looked great running for a hundred and twenty
Speaker 1: seven yards on six yards to carry. Mike Evans did
Speaker 1: Mike Evans things. Julio Jones. I know, the thing with
Speaker 1: him is you can't just view him as, oh, this
Speaker 1: is who he's gonna be because he can't stay healthy anymore.
Speaker 1: But this version of Julio Jones still looks explosive and
Speaker 1: could be a big time guy for the Bucks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean they had a Tom Brady. Best throw of
Speaker 1: the night was that forty eight yard shot to Julio Jones.
Speaker 1: Great catch, great catch, great throw. There's chemistries are using him.
Speaker 1: He had two sweeps as well, So I liked the
Speaker 1: Julio Jones fit in this. They did lose Donovan Smith,
Speaker 1: their tackle. Chris Godwin came in and then left the
Speaker 1: game as well, and it was elo for Donovan Smith,
Speaker 1: and we'll see, we'll know more about that. So both
Speaker 1: of these teams cannot use anyone else along the offensive line.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys also lost Connor McGovern and Terrence Steele
Speaker 1: operates as a penalty machine. So I just see concern
Speaker 1: all all over the place for the Cowboys when it
Speaker 1: comes to Tampa Bay. You know, they they looked more powerful. Obviously,
Speaker 1: was not the most watchable game on the planet, but
Speaker 1: I'm not leaving with much concern. I think there's still
Speaker 1: the Bucks, the same Bucks were used to Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think and obviously Bruce arians is upstairs now he
Speaker 1: so Himan literally wearing like a Hawaiian shirt. While he's
Speaker 1: he's cellnically working, he's acknowledging on the telecast and interviews.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, golf two or three times a week. This
Speaker 1: is a very nice job for Bruce Arians and it's
Speaker 1: a nice job for Todd Bowls because this team. You
Speaker 1: could see the way the defense swarmed, and that's another
Speaker 1: issue with Dallas. The offensive line, which we talked about
Speaker 1: during the summer, did not look good. They were overmatched
Speaker 1: in this game. So the Tampa Bay defense looked excellent
Speaker 1: in this game. And Brady is going to have bigger
Speaker 1: statistical days, but I didn't see anything to be concerned
Speaker 1: about him. It's been a kind of a funky, weird
Speaker 1: offseason for him. I think it's all systems go for
Speaker 1: the Bucks to uh to, you know, and you know
Speaker 1: what it's about with Tampa Bay at this point. Stay
Speaker 1: healthy enough and then win. You're ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen
Speaker 1: games and see what happens in January. With Tom Brady
Speaker 1: a quarterback, they're on the right track. The Cowboys the
Speaker 1: opposite of that, absolutely, And then in the Saints. We'll
Speaker 1: tangle with the Bucks next week and what happened last season.
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see that one very fune. All right,
Speaker 1: so we'll have more on uh Dak Prescott and where
Speaker 1: he's at on our Tuesday show when we're all back
Speaker 1: together and Greg will be hopefully feeling better by then.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Greg Our next a t N show of
Speaker 1: any kind will be tomorrow night, the Monday night football
Speaker 1: recap of the final game of Week one, Seahawks versus
Speaker 1: Broncos RUSS Bowl one, So keep uh stay tuned. Stephen
Speaker 1: Ruiz joining us for that one. Very nice. We love
Speaker 1: Stephen Ruiz. He is great, so that would be great conversation,
Speaker 1: so be there for that again. Go to Ticketmaster around
Speaker 1: the NFL Live show from London. Uh, we marked down
Speaker 1: some of the prices for the balcony seats, so we
Speaker 1: want to make sure you guys are at that show
Speaker 1: so we can all celebrate football together in London. And
Speaker 1: that's it. I think we're all done. Great show, mark
Speaker 1: wrap it up season ten of a t N Season
Speaker 1: thirteen for us here with the company. Let's make this
Speaker 1: one the best one yet. Buddy, I planned to great.
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