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Speaker 1: Thursday Night from the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around
Speaker 1: the NFL. The flagship program Sunday Week three recap. Dan
Speaker 1: Hands is here, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, Mark, I can
Speaker 1: hear it. You got a little bounce in your step.
Speaker 1: After the show today, we're gonna be on the plane
Speaker 1: heading over the pond. You're buzzing. International flights offer certain advantages,
Speaker 1: that's all I'll say, yes, yes, yes, we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on Mark. Well though, actually you
Speaker 1: and I, like we all have a lot of um
Speaker 1: insane work to do on the plane, so we're gonna
Speaker 1: keep it under wraps. Were company men. You've now said
Speaker 1: what you planned to do, right, And my biggest benefit
Speaker 1: is that it inspired a new song by Dan Hansas.
Speaker 1: I hope you can share it with the listeners. I
Speaker 1: don't even remember what it is. That's just part of
Speaker 1: the pre show banter um. Probably something about sadness being
Speaker 1: on the plane, you know. Oh yeah, it was waspying
Speaker 1: tonight on the plane, blah blah in your world, in
Speaker 1: your worldview, that song which is decades and decades old.
Speaker 1: Was was a prophetic song about you taking this flight time.
Speaker 1: I think it's built to this moment. That's the problem
Speaker 1: with you, is it. It's what makes me great. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get to it. It's the Sunday Flagship Show and
Speaker 1: it really got off to a great foot about an
Speaker 1: hour ago. Um. The way things are set up in
Speaker 1: our office, we watch everything in the newsroom together and
Speaker 1: our screens are a little behind. UM, so sometimes we
Speaker 1: need to roll over to where the bullpen is, where
Speaker 1: Davialie and Burgo and everybody else is hanging out to
Speaker 1: watch the game so it doesn't get spoiled the real
Speaker 1: the real time with these plaat all four games at
Speaker 1: one great So we roll over, Greggy rolls over, and
Speaker 1: just this was a reminder Greg that even the heroes
Speaker 1: let us down. Sometimes. Greg had Tom Brady driving on
Speaker 1: one screen, Geno Smith dropping on the other. Both of
Speaker 1: those there are teams lost, and you should just say
Speaker 1: it was basically one of the Sattus things. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've never seen Dan happier. I've never seen him so
Speaker 1: just like the inside to see a friend of his
Speaker 1: in pain, too great to the game going down just
Speaker 1: minutes apart. Gina Smith and Tom Brady. It was tough.
Speaker 1: We'll get to those and again, Greg a total pro
Speaker 1: because he was expecting you went through it for so long. Greggy,
Speaker 1: always good things happening to your football life. And now
Speaker 1: the reality of fandom is setting in and you're learning.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit of sweet. It's a real adult.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to those games. But first let's start
Speaker 1: in scorching South Florida. I could be in twenty eighteen
Speaker 1: seconds left, Alan, it goes down, it gets gets back
Speaker 1: up and toss it to McKenzie's trying to get to
Speaker 1: the sideline, trying to cut back into his tackle and
Speaker 1: Golls with seven seconds left ingram the tackle block clock
Speaker 1: it nine. Whoa Jimmy Cefalo. I talked about it last
Speaker 1: week with that great Jets one when Bob was shooes
Speaker 1: and you never get to hear Bob was shoes and
Speaker 1: on an exciting call, great play by play man Seplo.
Speaker 1: Since we've been doing the show, what do you hear
Speaker 1: Sefalo on a big call? You know you have that
Speaker 1: miracle with Gronk that one game, but like once every
Speaker 1: three months, no, that's not true. Once every three years.
Speaker 1: Now you're getting closer. But this is real time. Thank you, Mark,
Speaker 1: You're you're coming up the show already. Uh, Jimmy Sepalo
Speaker 1: with the call, the Miami Dolphins stopped Josh Allen and
Speaker 1: the Bills at the goal line. Then after a butt punt,
Speaker 1: they stopped him again or at least held them in bounds,
Speaker 1: and then got the clock to run out on an
Speaker 1: absurd nineteen win over the previously unstoppable Buffalo Bills. Um Mark,
Speaker 1: despite what you said, football hasn't been this exciting around
Speaker 1: the Dolphins in a long time. And the fact that
Speaker 1: you were able to get a win over the Mighty
Speaker 1: Bills here at three and oh, Miami football is flying high. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think like the narrative coming into this was how
Speaker 1: will Buffalo's secondary handle what Miami did to the Ravens
Speaker 1: last week with Tyreek Hill, with Jail and Waddle. That
Speaker 1: wasn't really the story of this game. I think that,
Speaker 1: you know, Buffalo's offense, which broke the Rams, broke the
Speaker 1: Titans very quickly looked unstoppable. They had increasing breakdown meltdown
Speaker 1: scenarios in this game. And I would talk I would
Speaker 1: talk about four different plays they they had and they
Speaker 1: got increasingly worse. It obviously ended with that, with that
Speaker 1: on the inability to spike the ball and stop the clock.
Speaker 1: But in the in the earlier in the game, they
Speaker 1: had a drive that ended in the Miami twenty and
Speaker 1: then they went ahead and missed the field goal. That's
Speaker 1: Unbuffalo like so far. They had a twenty played drive
Speaker 1: that really, to me, I thought they could have said
Speaker 1: we're gonna re establish the tone in this game. It
Speaker 1: fizzled out into a field goal that's you've missed, You've
Speaker 1: lost three points. And I really think that should have
Speaker 1: been a touchdown that happened at the Miami eleven that
Speaker 1: melted down. Then the drive before that final clock issue scenario,
Speaker 1: fourth and goal, Josh Allen, who has been perfect this season,
Speaker 1: rolls out throws a completely bizarre, on the run, off
Speaker 1: target short ball to Isaiah McKenzie who was just sort
Speaker 1: of sitting there in the end zone with his hands
Speaker 1: out like he was gonna catch a baby or something
Speaker 1: coming off a burning building. And the baby landed well
Speaker 1: short of Isaiah mackenzie's hands, and so well, I first
Speaker 1: the baby did not you know, Buffalo. It lived because
Speaker 1: the Buffalo had one more chance and then time ran
Speaker 1: out and that fourth scenario right there, So that's that's
Speaker 1: the baby is dead. Well, I don't you know, like
Speaker 1: like the Patriots do with their injuries. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: give you the status at the baby. Well, well that's
Speaker 1: not a new thing. You could tell because he's so
Speaker 1: excited that But I mean that to me was the
Speaker 1: story of the game. And I think this Miami defense
Speaker 1: where they kept the coordinator, they kept the system that
Speaker 1: was so smart for Mike McDaniel to handle it that way,
Speaker 1: the team will handle it that way. Their secondary grew
Speaker 1: hotter and hotter as the game went on, and they
Speaker 1: made Buffalo look human. Well, sounded like the conditions were
Speaker 1: a huge factor. A lot of the Bill's players said
Speaker 1: as much. They were dying. Mackenzie got an IVY at
Speaker 1: one point. But it's partly because their offense was tired.
Speaker 1: They had ninety plays in this game and the Dolphins
Speaker 1: had thirty nine. You almost never see a gap like that.
Speaker 1: That's outrageous. They had four hundred ninety seven yards in
Speaker 1: this game, Mark and the Dolphins had two hundred and twelve.
Speaker 1: You give me those two stats, and you would say,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure like the d v o A will
Speaker 1: run the numbers and Dolphins fans will be upset because
Speaker 1: we're not giving them their flowers. We should get to
Speaker 1: giving them some flowers. But you look at those numbers,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure some of the advanced analytics will run
Speaker 1: the numbers of this and they would say, you would
Speaker 1: expect the score of like thirty three sixteen bills. So
Speaker 1: like you're telling me about those key plays, but like,
Speaker 1: how did how did the Dolphins get this done offensively?
Speaker 1: That that officially because it doesn't like to put its crazy.
Speaker 1: So one of the one of their touchdowns was off
Speaker 1: a Josh Allen was off a fumble and they had
Speaker 1: a six yard touchdown drive advantage. They did have legit
Speaker 1: nine yard eighty three yard touchdown drive, but it did
Speaker 1: not it wasn't coming through the big plays that were
Speaker 1: there in the past. We're not in this game. That
Speaker 1: was not the case. Then they had one where they
Speaker 1: took over at their old twenty eight and had a
Speaker 1: regular touchdown drive. So they had too efficient drives, but
Speaker 1: one was a difference maker that was a buff low turnover.
Speaker 1: Dolphins fans, uh you know I just mentioned here and
Speaker 1: they they've been looking for their respect. Here's the respect.
Speaker 1: Like the fans in this game were reported that like
Speaker 1: a huge factor like that that both both players, but
Speaker 1: especially the Dolphins players where they haven't heard hard Rock Stadium,
Speaker 1: this rocking and this loud and a long time. And
Speaker 1: I thought it was telling. On that final play, you know,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins didn't send any extra rushers that Jalen Phillips
Speaker 1: and Melvin Ingram won immediately. Uh, And that's why they
Speaker 1: ended up winning the game. On that play, at that point,
Speaker 1: I still thought that they were gonna set up for
Speaker 1: the Tyler Bass game winner and AGBA one immediately. So
Speaker 1: those three rushers up front beat the Bill's offensive line,
Speaker 1: which has more injury issues. Uh. And that's the key
Speaker 1: play of the game. It's interesting seeing the throw What
Speaker 1: are the players you mentioned there, Mark that when he
Speaker 1: did Josh Allen throw that ball short? It did? It
Speaker 1: just reminds It reminds you that that these guys are
Speaker 1: human and in these conditions. I will I'm really excited
Speaker 1: to see the rematch of this game. I think the
Speaker 1: Bills to me are still the best team in the division,
Speaker 1: but this is what it is. I mean, they are
Speaker 1: now three and they're the only three and note team
Speaker 1: in the a f C now of the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: So this is as big as it gets. Is a
Speaker 1: huge win. And yeah, part of the Miami Dolphins experiences
Speaker 1: where they play their games, especially this time of year,
Speaker 1: that's an advantage and and their players they practiced in
Speaker 1: that through the spring and summer, and that was a
Speaker 1: built in advantage in this game that they took advantage
Speaker 1: of and they were able to keep that. The game
Speaker 1: came very close. Bills fans are wondering why we haven't
Speaker 1: mentioned that Mattillan who had to pick six against the
Speaker 1: Titans to or through a terrible ball. It landed right
Speaker 1: into the midst of Matt Blana, who dropped that. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are just these It's one of these games where
Speaker 1: I think, if you're a Bills fan, where you look
Speaker 1: so dominant there, you could count ten orant eleven little
Speaker 1: plays that changed this thing entirely and put I think
Speaker 1: a lesser performance by Miami's offense, it was enough because
Speaker 1: of Buffalo's mistakes. I thought they been bad in short
Speaker 1: yardage all three weeks so and they were bad in
Speaker 1: short yardage a year ago, so that's something they have
Speaker 1: to clean up and and was a big part I
Speaker 1: think of why they watched this game. And if you
Speaker 1: want a visual for the frustration of the Buffalo Bill's experience,
Speaker 1: look no further than one of the great all time
Speaker 1: I think the all time booth shot for a coordinator group,
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey, the o C having a total conniption after
Speaker 1: time ran out in that game, very frustrating defeat for
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, who were gonna be okay. Was that
Speaker 1: at the end you see a hand coming in. The
Speaker 1: hand comes in I think from another member of the
Speaker 1: Bill staff who realized that this is making n look bad.
Speaker 1: It makes him look good, I think because he cares.
Speaker 1: He's not thrilled up. But you know what happened was
Speaker 1: he's doing that, he's having the connection. The dude next
Speaker 1: to him looks up and sees the CBS monitor playing Conny.
Speaker 1: All right, So there you go. The Dolphins are three,
Speaker 1: the Bills two and one. Looked okay, by the way,
Speaker 1: after the back injury. Yeah, the injury, so I mentioned
Speaker 1: it looked like it was head And then Ian tweeted
Speaker 1: out that his understanding was that that he had tweaked
Speaker 1: his back in the first quarter on a sneak and
Speaker 1: didn't miss time. But I don't, you know, it's hard
Speaker 1: to can say he looked great. It just wasn't a
Speaker 1: great day for two or in a terrible day. There
Speaker 1: was it a head injury labeled as a back injury.
Speaker 1: You know, it was the other way around. It was
Speaker 1: a head injury, you know, But I'm saying, was it something, Oh,
Speaker 1: let's call it a back injury so we don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about certain elements of keeping our quarterback in
Speaker 1: the game. Did you sense any of that? As someone
Speaker 1: who hasn't watched yet, I thought I did not see
Speaker 1: back injury out of the gate. But I'm not one
Speaker 1: of these people that prance around acting like I can
Speaker 1: diagnose what's happening to a player physically. When I see
Speaker 1: people prancing around, like skipping through the streets, it's elbow
Speaker 1: and twitter doctors left the brands, Yeah, all right, let's move.
Speaker 1: There was there was some collateral damage. He locked the
Speaker 1: bills five people, Yes, it was the Westling brothers locked
Speaker 1: the bills and they you know, Nick's video made him
Speaker 1: seem like he was gonna go with the Dolphins. He
Speaker 1: was like, the Dolphins are hot, they're at home. But
Speaker 1: then they pivoted for the Bills. Do they have a
Speaker 1: win yet? Okay, Cincinnati zoo falls. Let's move on to listen. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the Bills superpower in the a f C. They
Speaker 1: go down. How about the Chiefs? They got the windless
Speaker 1: Colts up in week three? They're gonna roll right. Blake
Speaker 1: Clowkers at ten, writing on the stamp, takes looking left.
Speaker 1: He's gonna fire up field, pick it up. Accepted by
Speaker 1: the Courts. They accepted by the Colts. It's Rottny mcclouds
Speaker 1: have a reception. Two seconds left, Oh, Matt Taylor w
Speaker 1: f n Y. After Matt Ryan connected with Gilanni Woods
Speaker 1: for the second time, twelve yard touch up past seconds left.
Speaker 1: Rodney mc McLeod gets the I n T with just
Speaker 1: two seconds remaining. It capped a upset win for the Colts,
Speaker 1: who knock knock off the Chiefs twenty to seventeen. The
Speaker 1: Colts improved to one one and one. That's kind of fun.
Speaker 1: The Chief's ball to to one. Greggy, Uh, what's going
Speaker 1: on with the Chiefs offense here? That's that's something I
Speaker 1: wanted to talk because I looked at the box score.
Speaker 1: They had three points in the second half. Both their
Speaker 1: touchdowns came off turnovers where they had a short field.
Speaker 1: Are we back in this place ago? We're worried about
Speaker 1: Casey's offense a little bit, Yes, over the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: If you look at their yards per play, you know
Speaker 1: it's under five and a half. And that's why I
Speaker 1: wanted to lead with that play by Stefan Gilmore making
Speaker 1: the tip. Gilmore made some good plays on third down early,
Speaker 1: covering Travis Kelsey. Their defense kept them in this game
Speaker 1: when Matt Ryan and the offense really struggled. Other than
Speaker 1: like theyre they picked up a one TV where they
Speaker 1: got the ball at the five yard line and then
Speaker 1: they had this last drive which we can get to.
Speaker 1: But the chief the Colts defense, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: like made them feel ordinary for much of the day.
Speaker 1: And I didn't feel like Patrick Mahomes played played bad.
Speaker 1: But then I thought, you know, they only had nine
Speaker 1: drives in this game, and there was a lot of punts,
Speaker 1: and I thought at the end of the game it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a repeat of the a f C
Speaker 1: Championship game when instead of fourteen seconds. It was twenty
Speaker 1: four seconds and yet and they were getting into field
Speaker 1: goal position and Juju smith Schuster, at least according to
Speaker 1: Tony Romo, and this is why a draft Tony Romo
Speaker 1: first overall, he really believed that last interception was on
Speaker 1: Juju smith Schuster faking out Patrick Mahomes not sort of
Speaker 1: reading the coverage or reading what was happening on the
Speaker 1: blitz right and you could see Mahomes double pump and
Speaker 1: then forced it into it and Juju kind of fooled
Speaker 1: Mahomes on that play. And they are working out some
Speaker 1: King's offense. And that is the reminder one while Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hills three and oh and thriving in Miami, despite the
Speaker 1: Week one destruction of Arizona, we're seeing a Chiefs team
Speaker 1: that very much looks like it's trying to figure out
Speaker 1: itself on offen Here's what Mahomes had to say after
Speaker 1: the game about their offensive struggles. We just didn't play
Speaker 1: good enough, especially on the offensive side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Uh starting with me Um. Obviously, we we we missed
Speaker 1: some kicks and stuff like that, but at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, we we had multiple opportunities to score.
Speaker 1: So I mean, we have the final ways to get
Speaker 1: the ball in the end zone, and that starts with
Speaker 1: me a gant just get yards. We gotta be able
Speaker 1: to get in the end zone when we're down there.
Speaker 1: I mean they so they are heard at the kicker
Speaker 1: position because you have Matt Amadol who missed an extra point,
Speaker 1: missed a field goal, and that's something you saw if
Speaker 1: you're watching the game. Mahomes before the half was very
Speaker 1: frustrated and actually sort of jawing with Eric b Enemy
Speaker 1: about the fact that they didn't have a lot of
Speaker 1: time but they didn't really go for a touchdown at
Speaker 1: that point. Um it would have been tough to do,
Speaker 1: But it was more the idea that like, what are
Speaker 1: we doing kind of hanging back, We're in a game
Speaker 1: where we're trying to work out some issues. Because flip
Speaker 1: side this is great for the Cults, I mean, their
Speaker 1: season would have been in total turmoil. But long term,
Speaker 1: I'm watching Matt Ryan and he's he when he's got time,
Speaker 1: its Matt Ryan. But another five sacks today, another fumble,
Speaker 1: It's just, yeah, it seems just to be a sitting
Speaker 1: duck back there. In a long term, this was that's
Speaker 1: a major concern for the greg is it fair to
Speaker 1: say it's kind of a miracle they got pitting them
Speaker 1: back and he obviously played a role in this, but
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor's held under three and a half yards to carry,
Speaker 1: the quarterback, loses two fumbles the Chiefs of your opponent,
Speaker 1: and somehow you kind of steal a win. That's huge
Speaker 1: for the culture. It is because you never know how
Speaker 1: these seasons shake out. These teams will be different in
Speaker 1: December than they are now. And the fact that they
Speaker 1: could bank a win like this when they average under
Speaker 1: four yards per play on offense, I mean, they were
Speaker 1: just lost in terms of what they wanted to do offensively.
Speaker 1: And on that game winning touchdown drive, and that was
Speaker 1: a beautiful touchdown throw and a nice catch by Geolanni Woods.
Speaker 1: He had two catches today, both touchdowns, and that drive
Speaker 1: ended up taking him eight minutes. Each team really only
Speaker 1: had three full drives in the second half, so it's
Speaker 1: one of those types of games. And it took eight
Speaker 1: minutes in part sixteen plays seventies six yards because on
Speaker 1: fourth and fourteen, Chris Jones, the Chief's defensive tackle, got
Speaker 1: a penalty just for something he said to Matt Ryan.
Speaker 1: I would love to know what he said, because well,
Speaker 1: and the ref was right there and heard that's otherwise
Speaker 1: it wouldn't. He was on top of Matt Ryan and
Speaker 1: he stayed a little extra and kind of looked down
Speaker 1: at him. But they didn't throw the penalty for that.
Speaker 1: They both got up and Ryan said something and Jones
Speaker 1: got in his face said something back, and at that
Speaker 1: point it comes out and that ends up being the
Speaker 1: game winning drive. So there was like a million things
Speaker 1: that went against the Chiefs that I think we're somewhat
Speaker 1: lucky for the Colts. They also went for a fake
Speaker 1: field goal Dan because they had already missed uh four
Speaker 1: points from their kicker Amunds. Black Jackie start just digging in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: get deeper and deeper into the hole when he started.
Speaker 1: He could say that he could have been better. But
Speaker 1: all that said, like the normal Chiefs offense would have
Speaker 1: put the game out of reach before then, and they
Speaker 1: did what is the normal Chiefs offense? I guess we
Speaker 1: still don't know yet. Okay, we watched Week one and
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, we do know what it is. The
Speaker 1: defense and Mahomes put it on himself. I thought Mahomes
Speaker 1: played quite well, for the most part, they're running backs.
Speaker 1: Had twenty nine yards on seventeen cars. And we watched
Speaker 1: Mahomes with that one two point conversion, which was he
Speaker 1: had he had an insane two playing version. He had
Speaker 1: insane like side arm to keep a drive going. He
Speaker 1: needs a little more help right now. Alright, So Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes went down, But I mean Tom Brady, Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is at home. Tom Brady will take care of business.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. He can't touch Tom Brady. Right's check in
Speaker 1: at the pirate ship. Snap took Brady, Brady looking waiting, scrambles,
Speaker 1: right throws and so I tipped up into the air?
Speaker 1: Does play Bray Campbell tipped it up into the air,
Speaker 1: and the right side of me hadn't took hellore your dagger.
Speaker 1: The Packers defense finally gets the stuff that is Wayne
Speaker 1: Larvy with the call w R n W. Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: through yards and two touchdowns. But it was the Packers
Speaker 1: defense that got that stop after Tom Brady through a
Speaker 1: beautiful well it was really a great catch by Russell Gage,
Speaker 1: but a ninety yard drive with fourteen seconds remaining, cutting
Speaker 1: it to fourteen twelve, they go for two. They cannot convert,
Speaker 1: so the Bucks fall. They lose for the first time
Speaker 1: this season, and the Packers another team like the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: trying to figure some things out greg on offense, they
Speaker 1: scored just enough to get by the powerhouse Bucks. There's
Speaker 1: so many similarities with these two teams because their quarterbacks
Speaker 1: don't look quite like they were because they don't have
Speaker 1: the receivers. You made it, you know, out before as
Speaker 1: you're leading into this game like it was some like
Speaker 1: heroic underdog matchup that the Packers could win the game
Speaker 1: when Old Tommy doesn't have his number one receiver, Mike Evans,
Speaker 1: doesn't have his number two receiver, Chris Goodwin doesn't have
Speaker 1: number three receiver, Julio Jones, doesn't have his left tackle,
Speaker 1: Donovan Smith, doesn't have his center, and uh. At the end,
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought it was gonna be like one
Speaker 1: of those magical Tom Brady moments, and I was. I
Speaker 1: was crushed because of that, because it just was feeling
Speaker 1: like one of those Patriots games where they somehow stayed
Speaker 1: in it. Because the Bucks defense, to me, is right
Speaker 1: there with the best defense in the league so far
Speaker 1: this season. I might put him number one. Uh, and
Speaker 1: they did a great job keeping this game close, and
Speaker 1: he drives down the field and then it's a delay
Speaker 1: a game that ends up beating him. I know Devandre
Speaker 1: Campbell made the great play on the two, but at
Speaker 1: that point I felt like Tom Brady and the Buck's
Speaker 1: offense had lost that game because of slopping this. He
Speaker 1: took a delay a game that backed him up to
Speaker 1: the seven, and then he's like looking for Todd Bowls.
Speaker 1: He's like, how come you didn't take a time out?
Speaker 1: You didn't have any time out, Tom Brady, and it
Speaker 1: was just like alay a game. Mark turned to me
Speaker 1: because he had joined us in the bullpen at that point.
Speaker 1: He said, hey, listen, you know what actually backs him
Speaker 1: up and lets them do their offense a little better.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be better now that first of all,
Speaker 1: that is how I speak in the news room, just
Speaker 1: to clarifa. They were going to run it though they
Speaker 1: they they even started to run, but I told Mark
Speaker 1: that's the kind of announcer trope when that happens. Oh,
Speaker 1: this actually gives them more to operate. They operate. It
Speaker 1: was also telling operate. They called the run though for
Speaker 1: Lenny four Nette on the original two point conversion, which
Speaker 1: I think tells you about the relative lack of confidence
Speaker 1: in caraman Engauge had had a better day in Jalen Darden,
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley, and they are I mean, the their plan
Speaker 1: is not their plan was never let's throw thirteen balls
Speaker 1: at Russell Gauge. He's a nice piece who should have
Speaker 1: been getting like, you know, the third third receiver treatment.
Speaker 1: Then you've got Cambraid getting six targets, Leonard four Nette
Speaker 1: five catches off of six. These are who you're throwing too.
Speaker 1: He had forty two attempts and they only ran it
Speaker 1: with the running backs, not the plans. I mean Leonard
Speaker 1: Fournette thirty five yards in the ground. So I mean
Speaker 1: it's I'm with you. I think they're one of the
Speaker 1: more dull offenses to watch. But it's not their fault.
Speaker 1: They're missing like five or the six people they played
Speaker 1: until the cavalry comes home. Uh, it opens up the
Speaker 1: playbook a little bit. Evans will be back next week.
Speaker 1: He was suspended. Uh, we don't know about Godwin's Godwin
Speaker 1: or Julio, but the Packers, Julio Jones, what happened? What's
Speaker 1: just so unexpected at this point, I think we've come
Speaker 1: to learn this is the world. Then Week one already
Speaker 1: feels like it happened about ten years ago. With some
Speaker 1: of the things we're talking about. It's a worse knee
Speaker 1: injury than expected. I think Jake Lazer had it as
Speaker 1: a torn PCL or something. Made a catch today. I
Speaker 1: believe that. I mean Cole Beasley. Yeah, it comes in
Speaker 1: tom Brady's d M. He literally was like DM mean
Speaker 1: tom Brady and got got himself signed. I thought they
Speaker 1: might use him a lot. There was a report he
Speaker 1: made a diving catch to keep the first drive going,
Speaker 1: but he was not. How does everyone of tom Brady's
Speaker 1: numbered like they don't have their their careers didn't intersect.
Speaker 1: I think it was Instagram, you know, I guess they
Speaker 1: follow each other. Packers defenses there credit for holding up
Speaker 1: without Alexander. That's a big loss for them. They did
Speaker 1: get back dr back in this game finally, but he
Speaker 1: did not play the whole did he was he in
Speaker 1: and out of the lineup. There was a series I
Speaker 1: saw him on the bench. I think he was mostly
Speaker 1: in there, but I think they tried to limit some
Speaker 1: of his snaps. But he played the majority of any
Speaker 1: looking good the first two drives, even though that Todd
Speaker 1: Bowls recovered, the first two drives were like kind of
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers uh in his aging uh you know, end
Speaker 1: of his era period, like at his absolute best. He
Speaker 1: was like out coaching Bowls personally on all these third
Speaker 1: downs where he knew exactly what was coming. Um the
Speaker 1: magic number here before we move on, We're gonna take
Speaker 1: a break. Um that you would have never guessed. Although
Speaker 1: we kind of were on this a little bit going
Speaker 1: into the game because it felt too early and with
Speaker 1: all the injuries and the Packers trying to figure themselves out,
Speaker 1: this just felt like too early for this game. Six
Speaker 1: hundred is the magic number. That is the total yards
Speaker 1: between the two teams, three five. I want to see
Speaker 1: these guys play again in January. We knew this was
Speaker 1: not going to be some high octane showdown. I also
Speaker 1: like that the Brady Rogers sort of like meet in
Speaker 1: the middle of the field was you know, a little man,
Speaker 1: it's about as cold as did you see the Josh
Speaker 1: Allen to a meet in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: It was like they had just like play the most
Speaker 1: epic Super Bowl was like, I think they were just
Speaker 1: totally exhausted. But it was like Federer and the Doll
Speaker 1: on Friday night, just like crying on each other. I
Speaker 1: know who they are. I know one of them is
Speaker 1: retiring familiar with It was emotional. I imagine two warriors
Speaker 1: of the clay. I think this is a good side
Speaker 1: for the Bucks. By the way, they'll be back in
Speaker 1: a good sign. That Romeo adopts looks like a real
Speaker 1: ball player. That they got targets say catches. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then we continue on with
Speaker 1: the flagship show. All right, we're back. Let's head next
Speaker 1: to the house. The Bobby Craft built Jackson out of
Speaker 1: the gun on third and one. Thanks their hand off.
Speaker 1: Lamar will keep it. He's got room, He's the five.
Speaker 1: He walks in, touchs out Robar Jackson with a knockout
Speaker 1: shot on third and one. Lamar sends him flying for
Speaker 1: the eggs sits in Foxborough. I don't know, actually, I
Speaker 1: don't know if there was a taxpayer subsidies involved there,
Speaker 1: if it was all privately funded by the owner. We
Speaker 1: don't know. It was about twenty years ago. Sure, maybe
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, through four touchdown passes, also ran for a touchdown.
Speaker 1: This guy's out of his mind right now. That was
Speaker 1: Jerry Sandusky. By the way, w P A. L and
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens Shook off that bad beat last week
Speaker 1: to the Dolbins with a win over another a f
Speaker 1: C East the Patriots thirty seven twenty six. And now
Speaker 1: we welcome in a friend of the show. And just imagine,
Speaker 1: because now he's getting ready for his marriage, the revenge
Speaker 1: body against any remaining body fat he might have imagine
Speaker 1: Shook's body on his wedding night. I'll just leave it there.
Speaker 1: What's up, Nick, Well, no, I think it's apt you
Speaker 1: put me, you put you put me in a strange
Speaker 1: position where now I'm imagining that and let's just leave it.
Speaker 1: You're throwing you off your access just um, you know.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Nick Shook, because we're gonna be
Speaker 1: traveling to London town, uh tonight, Shook has taken us
Speaker 1: home and closing out the podcast with a little Sunday
Speaker 1: night football discussion. So thank you for that, Shook. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson totally out of his mind. Today he became the
Speaker 1: first player in the Super Bowl era that's according to
Speaker 1: the AP, with three or more passing touchdowns and a
Speaker 1: hundred plus rushing yards and back to back games. Um,
Speaker 1: he is unconscious. And and the New England Patriots, who
Speaker 1: are not a bad defense like everybody else, have no
Speaker 1: answers right now with Jackson, No no answers, no answers whatsoever.
Speaker 1: They got him to throw an interception and and still
Speaker 1: that wasn't enough. They got one of his teammates to fumble,
Speaker 1: and it still wasn't enough. And especially in that final
Speaker 1: moment there where the Ravens do get the ball back
Speaker 1: and Lamar puts it on his shoulders, goes right down
Speaker 1: the field a couple of long completions, runs it in himself.
Speaker 1: As they said, the knockout blow in a game to
Speaker 1: the Patriots had every chance to come back and win.
Speaker 1: In credit to the defense, of course, but Lamar is
Speaker 1: the headline with five total touched ounds. And you know,
Speaker 1: this is what I wrote in What We Learned is
Speaker 1: every time he has a game like this, is price
Speaker 1: just increases. This is he just kind of punctuates what
Speaker 1: how important he is to his franchise. And and the
Speaker 1: credit really, and I know you guys have all noticed
Speaker 1: this through three weeks now is the fact that you
Speaker 1: know Greg Roman has gotten so much. You know, criticism
Speaker 1: for their offense is predictable. They can only run the
Speaker 1: option with him, they still can't throw the football. They
Speaker 1: have answered those questions this season, thanks in large part
Speaker 1: to the development of Rashad Bateman. Devin DuVernay had a
Speaker 1: day today. We know what Mark Andrews brings to the
Speaker 1: table and Lamar delivering the ball to all of them.
Speaker 1: Mark Andrews made an incredible touchdown catching this game over defender.
Speaker 1: I think he had less than a yard of separation.
Speaker 1: He's basically uh. The defender was in his lap when
Speaker 1: he caught the touchdown pass. But it's all thanks to
Speaker 1: Lamar being able to get the ball to him and
Speaker 1: his unpredictability. He can make, you know, guys miss even
Speaker 1: in the pocket. He avoided getting sacked by two rushers
Speaker 1: Josh Josh h and Uh and Matthew Judon, both coming
Speaker 1: at the same time. Neither could get him. He extended
Speaker 1: to play, gets a first down to dead on a
Speaker 1: few occasions. Day not only keeps their offensive float but
Speaker 1: also allows them to explode for points at times. I mean,
Speaker 1: they put thirty seven points on the board today. It
Speaker 1: didn't even really feel like that many points, and yet
Speaker 1: this is who Baltimore is, so, I mean, he's He's fantastic.
Speaker 1: This version, this healthy version of Lamar who's thriving in
Speaker 1: the passing game, obviously confident of his legs. He's a
Speaker 1: cheat code. Here's John Harbaugh who understands what he has
Speaker 1: and probably is nervous about what could happen after the season.
Speaker 1: You don't have him under contract. You're not nice to
Speaker 1: tell me about Lamar Jackson. You know, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just I'm I believe. I believe in him.
Speaker 1: I love him, belive you know, I just believe him
Speaker 1: the day first day we draft him. I kind of
Speaker 1: like that, Greggy, because it's like, hey, remember Lamar, we
Speaker 1: believe me before anybody else. I mean, he's discount. He's
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. You know, they can franchise like he's
Speaker 1: not going anywhere. And you're right, Nick that the price
Speaker 1: goes up. That that's a great problem for them to have.
Speaker 1: It's it's the best version of Lamar acts and we've
Speaker 1: ever seen, you know, as someone who at times almost
Speaker 1: felt like I was defending Lamar's play from the pocket
Speaker 1: during his MVP season. It's still okay to acknowledge that
Speaker 1: he's at another level right now as a passer and
Speaker 1: as a decision maker. He knows when to run when
Speaker 1: not to run. I mean the speed still there when
Speaker 1: when they run QB power he just goes. But I
Speaker 1: watched this game pretty closely too, and and honestly didn't
Speaker 1: feel like the Patriots are playing bad defense. They were
Speaker 1: getting beat by perfect plays that they were in position
Speaker 1: for that Just like, what can you do other than
Speaker 1: like tip their hat to the throw of the corner
Speaker 1: of the end zone. Who was that? To Duvernet was
Speaker 1: just like outrageous, It was outrageous. Duvenet with great job
Speaker 1: by getting his feed in bounds. But you talk about
Speaker 1: perfect plays, The perfect play to me was pulling a
Speaker 1: page at the Kansas City's playbook. The little shovel past
Speaker 1: to Mark Andrews along the goal line for an early touchdown.
Speaker 1: Andrews almost dropped the ball, hangs on and gets the
Speaker 1: end zone. That's the stuff that they can do now
Speaker 1: that they can. It can hit you from all angles,
Speaker 1: does not matter what situation there in. Lamar is able
Speaker 1: to capitalize it on that. And you're right, you know
Speaker 1: you're defending his pocket performance and everything his MVP season,
Speaker 1: he was spectacular, But like you said, he's better now
Speaker 1: than he was then. Does he make a few mistakes
Speaker 1: here and there, Yeah, of course, but the total picture,
Speaker 1: the total package which you get heavily outweighs that and
Speaker 1: if they can put it all together on a week
Speaker 1: by week basis, this is why we a lot of
Speaker 1: people had them win in the North. I mean, they
Speaker 1: look strong. I also thought this was the best game
Speaker 1: we've seen from Mac Jones, and we just watched on
Speaker 1: the YouTube feed that he was obviously heavily limping at
Speaker 1: one point and looked was an agony after that game.
Speaker 1: We're waiting to find out what that injury was that
Speaker 1: could essentially be their season. But did you, let's say
Speaker 1: he gets healthing was did you think that Mac Jones
Speaker 1: played his best game of the of the year so far.
Speaker 1: I mean the bar is kind of low because they've
Speaker 1: been off very low start offensively through through two games.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was a great game, but it
Speaker 1: was good enough to win. Mac also kind of sunk them.
Speaker 1: He threw a pretty bad interception on a desperation he
Speaker 1: even the back of the end zone the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: that had no chance. It was a prayer and uh.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't his fault of course that Nelson Aglar
Speaker 1: fumbled that that should have been a nice catching run
Speaker 1: that could have got them in position again. So it
Speaker 1: wasn't terrible. It wasn't a spectacular percentage over expected today.
Speaker 1: I thought he had some dimes. I thought it was
Speaker 1: an encouraging game for them. For them to put up
Speaker 1: four hundred and fifty yards of offense is encouraging. You
Speaker 1: can't have the turnovers. But it was like a close game.
Speaker 1: You had Agil, as you mentioned, running in Raven's territory
Speaker 1: down five points with about five minutes to go. Wasn't
Speaker 1: like it was a one side of game. But if
Speaker 1: he's out, and there's some Twitter doctors believing while they're
Speaker 1: prancing around that it would might be a high ankle sprain,
Speaker 1: who knows it might be worse if it's helping the
Speaker 1: news from Mike Reporter. The Patriots fear and there is
Speaker 1: speculations still here, but this is Gardy and we liked her.
Speaker 1: Patriots fear that mac Jones suffered tendon and or ligament
Speaker 1: damage that doesn't show an X ray, so that there's
Speaker 1: still but their fear and as he's screaming going down
Speaker 1: those very same steps that Tom Brady once went down
Speaker 1: after blowing does a c L on the eight opener Um,
Speaker 1: you have very huge concerns here, Shookie about the paths
Speaker 1: because if they don't have mac Joe, Like, who is
Speaker 1: there back? Brian Hoy, Oh my good season. I know
Speaker 1: he kind of looks like you shook, so that that's
Speaker 1: personally he's got a Brown's tie, but like that's that
Speaker 1: is not a good look. That's the recipe for five
Speaker 1: and twelve. Yeah, I mean you know what you get
Speaker 1: with him. It's a low ceiling. He's not gonna make
Speaker 1: a ton of mistakes, but he's not gonna elevate you
Speaker 1: and wedding night Shook Brian Hoyer. I would rather not,
Speaker 1: but I just want to say this night and now
Speaker 1: it's getting more at the wedding. All right, let's let's
Speaker 1: move on. Oh oh oh yes, Mr Sessler, Locke Brothers
Speaker 1: once again and the great Great Lock It Up a
Speaker 1: t N lock it Up on Winter let us know
Speaker 1: within an excellent NS throwback cover for a hypothetical video
Speaker 1: game in which we lock games the Bros. The lock Bros.
Speaker 1: We are now eleven and two when we tag team
Speaker 1: a lock, so that's something to keep it. When I
Speaker 1: had suggested after week one when Dan and I did
Speaker 1: this shook that we we locked up a team and
Speaker 1: we wont. I was like, let's do this every week,
Speaker 1: it's like, no, it's not. Actually that's a great idea
Speaker 1: because we're dominant when we'd team up. But it's got
Speaker 1: to be the right. I think we've showed when we
Speaker 1: are both aligned, it's almost always right right. I just
Speaker 1: picked blindly, and then you seem to do the same. So, um,
Speaker 1: I have a trophy that says otherwise, all right, Chuck,
Speaker 1: let's move on. Well, so do I do you? Carolina
Speaker 1: right fielding the shotgun pumps, he's got Labisco shoulf his
Speaker 1: first checks missus welcome home. Let's see that in this
Speaker 1: strof w BT with the call. That is Laviska Chenalt,
Speaker 1: who was acquired in a late training camp trade in
Speaker 1: act of the first couple of games. Now he gets
Speaker 1: a he gets a big opportunity and makes the most
Speaker 1: of it with a sixty seven yard touchdown past from
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield in the fourth quarter. And it is the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers that defeat the New Orleans Saints two to fourteen.
Speaker 1: It snaps a nine game losing streak from that rules team.
Speaker 1: Maybe my pep talk on the Friday Fun Fun Show
Speaker 1: had an effect. I like to think so. Shookie Baker
Speaker 1: only three for one seventy, but with the way I
Speaker 1: guess New Orleans is playing offensively, you don't know, he
Speaker 1: needs to make a ton of plays right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like a hater, but that
Speaker 1: throw that we just showed was Baker's best throw of
Speaker 1: the day and he had to throw it about fifteen
Speaker 1: yards to the flat man. Laviska Enal did the rest
Speaker 1: of the work. I mean, it's still an offensive is struggling.
Speaker 1: Christian McAffrey broke a huntre yards on the ground again,
Speaker 1: but they got to win, and that's the most important thing.
Speaker 1: And a lot of it has to do with the
Speaker 1: Panthers defense, which gave up a ton of yards but
Speaker 1: did not break. They bent a lot, but they did
Speaker 1: not break, uh, And they made some key plays. Mike
Speaker 1: one of my favorite guys in this team for the
Speaker 1: last few years. Frankie Lulu with a nice strip of
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara earlier. Then frank returned that you know, hey,
Speaker 1: freaky hey, when needs Baker Mayfield, when you got freaky
Speaker 1: over they uncle Tony, what do you think about freaky?
Speaker 1: But yeah, this defense, uh yeah, you know the snow Patrol. Greg,
Speaker 1: this is your group, the snow Patrol. They made their
Speaker 1: first appearance this season, got a takeaway and that was
Speaker 1: enough because the Saints offense can't get out of its
Speaker 1: own way. Jamis finally connected with Christal Lovey once. It
Speaker 1: felt like a holiday because he missed him about four
Speaker 1: more times. This offense is struggling for New Orleans right now,
Speaker 1: and it's a surprise they even got fourteen points. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm reading here that Michael Thomas, Jarvis Landry and Trey
Speaker 1: Kuan Smith I'll leave with injuries in the second half
Speaker 1: anything serious there. Potentially Thomas was left for with a foot.
Speaker 1: Jarvis I don't think returning. He got hurt, pretty elate.
Speaker 1: Traycon Smith came in because Jarvis was hurt and ended
Speaker 1: up making a difference, but none of it mattered to London,
Speaker 1: which is that is not a good sign. Like that.
Speaker 1: They're often should be much better this year because they
Speaker 1: have all these receivers, but it hasn't been through three game.
Speaker 1: Through three games, I don't think give a healthy quarterback either, right,
Speaker 1: And I think there's questions there. This is a very
Speaker 1: interesting time. I think for the Saints heading over to
Speaker 1: London to play Minnesota. What will be there at that game?
Speaker 1: And I just get the sensors a lot of tension
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of pressure on this group because
Speaker 1: they kept everyone together. And I'm just keeping an eye
Speaker 1: out on for drama with this Saints ting. I'm just
Speaker 1: keeping an eye out. You know what we're gonna do.
Speaker 1: Drama nugget. Yeah, let's hear some du notice today. First
Speaker 1: sideline shot at Andy Dalton, m m, well that's look,
Speaker 1: I think he maybe should be playing in this game.
Speaker 1: That Jamis has a fractures in his back. But that's
Speaker 1: more like a nugget of you know, the Fox announcers
Speaker 1: keying in on a potential storyline. You're not saying, was
Speaker 1: there a shot of like Andy Dalton looking suspicious or
Speaker 1: looking like an eye roll after Jameis Winston pass sailed
Speaker 1: over receiver's head, anything like that. That's what we're looking for.
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. The Gingerman's eyebrows, they are very expressive. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that was a nugget, but I mean it
Speaker 1: will note it will note it absolutely anything else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: think about with the Saints, by the way, they have
Speaker 1: a near miraculous win against the Falcons in week one.
Speaker 1: They're that close to oh and three right now, So Greg,
Speaker 1: you're right. And when you have a banged up team now,
Speaker 1: including a quarterback reportedly playing with four fractures in his back,
Speaker 1: enjoy the ten hour plane ride and uh, the strange
Speaker 1: week to come in London and the out of your
Speaker 1: sort's unique prep week to come. This is tough spot
Speaker 1: for them. Their opponent feeling good, Chookie, We're feeling good
Speaker 1: about you closing out the show, so thank you. We'll
Speaker 1: say goodbye for now, and then you'll rejoin the audience
Speaker 1: and a little fireside chat with the great Nick Shook,
Speaker 1: you know, come into my office, we'll chat and they'll
Speaker 1: be on a plane. Safe travels, guys. Thank you all right,
Speaker 1: let us there goes Nick Shook, always a pro. Speaking
Speaker 1: of the Vikings, the opponent of the Saints in London,
Speaker 1: they're feeling good. Cousins on the shotgun with no time out,
Speaker 1: takes the snaps, great drop, He's gonna fire right, Vikings
Speaker 1: taken seven and this place says, get out Paul Allen
Speaker 1: and Pete Versa k f A and I mean the bonga.
Speaker 1: We just needs team of al ver to celebrate. It
Speaker 1: was a great back and forth game. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: not how this works. I don't think we could put
Speaker 1: you on the plane after it. Well, but he's traveling
Speaker 1: with our equipment. Yeah, his his other significant other. Yes,
Speaker 1: so she needs she can do my job in London.
Speaker 1: Mark's angling to spend time with yours. That is an inaccurates.
Speaker 1: She is a very nice person. But just take the owl,
Speaker 1: hare Graver, take this out. The Minnesota Vikings come back
Speaker 1: on the Detroit lines, the team of a T L
Speaker 1: K J Osborne with that go ahead twenty yard touchdown
Speaker 1: pass from Kirk Cousins with forty five seconds to play.
Speaker 1: And it was a tough one boys. You know, I
Speaker 1: was watching this with my brother Kevin. Danger hands is
Speaker 1: today and they have it. They have it. They're in
Speaker 1: the second half of this game. They get a huge stop.
Speaker 1: Minnesota turned the ball over on downs at its forty
Speaker 1: seven with two thirty two to go, and Detroit takes over.
Speaker 1: They get in position where Dan Campbell has a has
Speaker 1: an option with about seventy seconds left in regulation, go
Speaker 1: for it, punt the ball away, play defense and hold off,
Speaker 1: or try a fifty four yard field goal from Austin Cybert.
Speaker 1: That's what he goes with. He pushes it wide right,
Speaker 1: gives the Vikings a short field, and Kirk Cousins does
Speaker 1: the rest. After the game, this is what Dan Campbell
Speaker 1: had to say. He took some ownership here. I regret
Speaker 1: that decision. I really do, Dave. I I hate it
Speaker 1: and I do feel like I cost our team. I
Speaker 1: really do about it. And that's great, And again being
Speaker 1: accountable as a head coach is very important. But it
Speaker 1: is once again another reminder with the Lions and they're
Speaker 1: fun watch. Um not as fun today when they lose
Speaker 1: their top wide receiver and the top running back to injuries.
Speaker 1: But um, they haven't figured out really had to win yet.
Speaker 1: This has been happened, This happened last year, but they
Speaker 1: were more talent poor last year. They're still learning how
Speaker 1: to win games, and they let this one get away.
Speaker 1: They should not have lost this game. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a tough one to swell, especially if they are what
Speaker 1: we think Mark, which is a team that could be
Speaker 1: frisky and hanging around in December in the playoff race. Well,
Speaker 1: now another team that could be in that wild card
Speaker 1: race has a big tiebreaker. Well they are they are frisky, right, Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they would have been nice to
Speaker 1: pull this out because it's a division game, and it
Speaker 1: would have confirmed the fact that again, they ran the
Speaker 1: ball really well. I just think they've got weapon They've
Speaker 1: got weapons that people wouldn't have expected. In the passing game.
Speaker 1: I mean, we knew st Brown was good, but Josh
Speaker 1: Reynolds had six catches from I don't know if you
Speaker 1: need or want Jared Goff to be throwing the ball
Speaker 1: forty one times, but I don't think golf, who I
Speaker 1: think gets typically kind of just slammed and panned by
Speaker 1: people like he's he's pretty I don't think you have.
Speaker 1: But I'm just like you guys are using pretty well,
Speaker 1: he's playing playing five. I have killed golf for you
Speaker 1: don't want to know in part the reason why he's
Speaker 1: throwing the ball out. They had the ball a lot
Speaker 1: in this game. They ran a ton of plays. But also, uh,
Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift is haven't he has a recurring issue? Here?
Speaker 1: Is it? A foot or an ankle. I think he
Speaker 1: has an ankle injury, but now he also has a
Speaker 1: shoulder injury on top of it. So he's banged up.
Speaker 1: And a monros st Brown is hurting this game and
Speaker 1: he's banged up. And you saw when you take those
Speaker 1: two guys out of a primary role in the offense,
Speaker 1: they kind of came down to earth. And that that's
Speaker 1: gonna affect Yard Goff because, like we've said, with Goff,
Speaker 1: if he has these weapons and the offensive line is
Speaker 1: protecting him, he could absolutely light up a defense. But
Speaker 1: they were definitely hurt by the injuries. And to credit
Speaker 1: the Vikings, that was a game that was slipping away.
Speaker 1: It looked like it was over after that midfield turnover,
Speaker 1: and they showed some gumption boys after especially a very
Speaker 1: ugly Monday night loss to Philly fourteen entering the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter division game. That's massive. The Lions injuries, as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: have been cascading. I mean they've been missing two or
Speaker 1: three offensive lineman this whole season. And then with your weapons,
Speaker 1: you feel for him and uh, Lions fans, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess we're being welcomed into your into your den.
Speaker 1: And um, this was a painful one. Don't put it
Speaker 1: on us, uh you know, but now no one would.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't because this has been happening before we came along.
Speaker 1: But I do from somehow I feel a little responsible
Speaker 1: that they were up twenty fourteen in our first game
Speaker 1: and then have just like a total heartbreaker. Now I
Speaker 1: take no responsible. This team has been losing for like
Speaker 1: four eons, like we were. We jumped on and there
Speaker 1: is there is an interesting team as they've been since
Speaker 1: we've been born. It's it's too bad that that that
Speaker 1: game winning touchdown by Cousins too. It was a confusion.
Speaker 1: Uh what that's not I mean there were a couple
Speaker 1: of Wayne Fonts teams back in the day. I forgot
Speaker 1: about that. But this this is getting there bad misscommunication
Speaker 1: in the secondary of winning touchdown touchdown. Nobody says it
Speaker 1: that way. That'd be weird if I did. Jeff A.
Speaker 1: Kudas had a good game. He's a guy that's a
Speaker 1: bright spot. We've talked about rodrigue Um. But what they
Speaker 1: did they shut down Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson got again quieted.
Speaker 1: That's two straight weeks after looking completely unstoppable in Week one,
Speaker 1: So they're they're definitely positives because what I really wanted
Speaker 1: to see from the Lions is growth on defense, because
Speaker 1: that's when you could really start to buy in and
Speaker 1: if they just could have gotten that last stop. But
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell's right, he should have never went for that
Speaker 1: field goal unless you got justin Tucker. You should have
Speaker 1: punted that ball away. In my opinion, pin them and
Speaker 1: then give your defense a real shot to get a stop.
Speaker 1: They're not good enough to make that stop at midfield
Speaker 1: at this point, and I think Campbell knew it, and
Speaker 1: he instantly had regret. He would have gone for it, right,
Speaker 1: or go for it? Or go for it? What was
Speaker 1: the down and distance? It was fourth and four at
Speaker 1: the thirties six. You're in an in between area where
Speaker 1: punts are. Arians haven't been like one of the heaviest
Speaker 1: fourth down go for a teams in the NFL. Fourth
Speaker 1: and fourth very six. Yeah, that's a go for me.
Speaker 1: But it is it is That is not from right now, am.
Speaker 1: It's like that was we talked about on Thursday. That
Speaker 1: was so says he looked as bad as any quarterback
Speaker 1: in the league on Monday night against the Eagles, and
Speaker 1: of course he comes back and he wasn't lights out tonight.
Speaker 1: He missed today, he missed some throws, but he made
Speaker 1: the one he's wide open to. I don't like this
Speaker 1: justin Jefferson fourteen yards business off six targets. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're that's They've got to figure that out when you
Speaker 1: when you have the year he had as a rookie
Speaker 1: and then you're one of the defining storylines of week one. Obviously,
Speaker 1: teams are like all the way zoned in on him,
Speaker 1: and it's on our friend. They were ignoring him before
Speaker 1: the storyline after week went oh, now he's being moved around,
Speaker 1: and now we know how to use them to his
Speaker 1: best abilities. It's like, all right, now, what keV Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, we were the ones saying that, and you're
Speaker 1: everyone was saying it was like that there was one
Speaker 1: little kick at the door from Mike Zimmer and his
Speaker 1: previous staff, like you didn't actually even know how to
Speaker 1: use this dude. All right, Well, some now find a
Speaker 1: way to adapt to the adapts, adapts to the adjustments
Speaker 1: being made. You know what I'm saying. Let's take a break,
Speaker 1: all right, we're back, let us move on check in
Speaker 1: with the defending Chips. It's a jet set. Cooper Cups
Speaker 1: got the ends twenty tam Cooper Cup speederbird touch down.
Speaker 1: A did Cooper Cups for today? It's Sunday, of course
Speaker 1: he did. Oh, that's why J B. Long, That's what
Speaker 1: it is. Nice line KSPN Cooper Cup with the twenty
Speaker 1: yard touchdown run. At that point in the game, he
Speaker 1: was the team's leading receiver and rusher. That's what he
Speaker 1: means to this offense. And it wasn't a big offensive
Speaker 1: day by the Rams. Mattew Stafford in fact, didn't throw
Speaker 1: a touchdown passing if that's happened since he's joined Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: But the defense, the defense he a true great to
Speaker 1: do on both sides, and they shut down and throttle
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. Final Rams over Cards. Rams approved to two
Speaker 1: and one, Cards fall to one and two. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: a funky, weird game. UM. In some ways, not the
Speaker 1: most thrilling game. Not not the shootout. Maybe some of
Speaker 1: us thought it could have been Allen Robinson let a
Speaker 1: goal line pass go through his hands that could have
Speaker 1: been a touchdown for Stafford. Uh. Kyler Murray through forteen yards,
Speaker 1: but he did it on fifty eight attempts. And you
Speaker 1: know the Hollywood Brown move is working. Let's start with
Speaker 1: the Cards in that he certainly does have that chemistry
Speaker 1: with Kyler, and he went fourteen for one forty on
Speaker 1: seventeen targets. But there was a moment this game when
Speaker 1: they were down laid by two scores and they took
Speaker 1: over deep in their own end, the Cardinals, and you
Speaker 1: kind of need urgency and you need quick, quick, quick
Speaker 1: score there to stay alive, and there just wasn't there.
Speaker 1: Mark they have inability to be explosive on offense, and
Speaker 1: there's too much wait for Kyler to bring magic worked
Speaker 1: last week not this week. Yeah, I mean, if you
Speaker 1: take the twenty minutes or so last week where the
Speaker 1: Cardinals turned electric, their offense has been a sputtering disaster
Speaker 1: lacking urgency. I mean, I think it is a coaching
Speaker 1: to some degree when you know you're playing a good
Speaker 1: Rams defense. Except the Rams defense that got flamed by
Speaker 1: Buffalo and put a looted a bunch of points against
Speaker 1: the Falcons. So this shouldn't have been a an invisible
Speaker 1: spot for for Arizona. If their offense is for real.
Speaker 1: They start with four punts, none of those drives, three
Speaker 1: of those drives don't go for more than eight yards.
Speaker 1: One doesn't go the one goes for sixteen. Then you're
Speaker 1: kicking field goals? Do you want to be a field
Speaker 1: goal offense? Tried to survive in this division, in the
Speaker 1: NFC in general, I I just see a team that
Speaker 1: we this. They started slow last week too, Kyler started slow,
Speaker 1: the parts around them did, and it seems to just
Speaker 1: be in a problem to get going early and to
Speaker 1: keep pace with the team. You can't. You can't attempt
Speaker 1: to come back every week and wait if you're good
Speaker 1: new you can't do it in sluggish nature that we
Speaker 1: saw today. Yeah, I think the Rams are just trying
Speaker 1: to survive this early portion of the season. They were
Speaker 1: down two more cornerbacks on top of their other injuries. Uh,
Speaker 1: they lost Havenstein in this game. I don't know if
Speaker 1: he returned the right tackle, which would be a massive injury.
Speaker 1: And they're just it almost feels like they're just kind
Speaker 1: of warming up into this season, and it's nice if
Speaker 1: you can get some wins along the way, which they've done.
Speaker 1: They also got Aaron Donald a sack today and that's
Speaker 1: his hundreds. He is the fastest defensive tackle in the
Speaker 1: history of the NFL to reach a hundred secks reportably player. Yes,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, and that's what we were talking about it
Speaker 1: last Sunday. Mark, I feel the same way after this
Speaker 1: game where the Rams are not playing at peak efficiency
Speaker 1: by any stretch, but this is they maybe have a
Speaker 1: quote unquote Super Bowl hangover, but they're they won two
Speaker 1: of three here and there to start the season, and
Speaker 1: and you assume they're going to get better. Um one
Speaker 1: aspect of the game that was getting better and then
Speaker 1: ceased to be getting better because you cannot fumble your
Speaker 1: the goal line when you have a chance to ice
Speaker 1: a game. Cam Acres, he was you know, he was
Speaker 1: going to be the highlight. He took over early in
Speaker 1: the second half and had a great drive where he
Speaker 1: carved up the car. You're going to reward him to you,
Speaker 1: that's like the That's one of the most important things
Speaker 1: you do as a host is reward players with highlights. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta reward people for achievements and hard work. And
Speaker 1: Daniel is flying tonight on a plane. Reward yourself, potentially.
Speaker 1: Cam Acres had a fourteen yard touchdown run and I
Speaker 1: was thinking myself, you know what, that's nice. The Rams
Speaker 1: need a running game. And just when you started to
Speaker 1: feel good about it, yes, he coughs the ball up
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, gives the Cardinals life. But like
Speaker 1: I said, and and Cam and McVeigh had a moment
Speaker 1: on the sidelines where it didn't seem like he was
Speaker 1: headed to the doghouse. It was more like, bro protect it.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be like Belichick would have buried him under
Speaker 1: six ft on the ground, he will be gone. He
Speaker 1: would be gone. So the Rams fine, move on, get
Speaker 1: the w. The Cardinals still very unimpressive other than a
Speaker 1: magical second half and big time playing overtime. That's where
Speaker 1: we're at with this. Oh, by the way, you you
Speaker 1: get all hot in the pants Greg about Tony Romo
Speaker 1: and this and that. I only care about Sundays with
Speaker 1: Sanchise now. Mark Sanchez is the breakout star for me
Speaker 1: of the commentator game right now. And uh he said
Speaker 1: some funky stuff last week and it let us wondering
Speaker 1: did he just even admit that he has a like
Speaker 1: a joke writer. Um, here is another Sunday with Sanchise.
Speaker 1: Let's slug his game. He's gonna have to change his neighbor.
Speaker 1: Sakira man whatever whatever wherever. That guy's right to play
Speaker 1: some football. He's talking about square neck. Uh, that's a
Speaker 1: twenty two year old Shakira single. It's not even like
Speaker 1: a hip slot don't lie reference. I don't know even
Speaker 1: know that People was a huge she was a huge
Speaker 1: star in Colombia and around the world, and then she
Speaker 1: put out an English speaking language and had that as
Speaker 1: a big breakout. It was like, it's like whatever, whatever,
Speaker 1: unless unless you're in the way. He said it like,
Speaker 1: you know, like the words, like the lyrics are what
Speaker 1: you think of when you think of Shakira and Sakira
Speaker 1: and squar Nick don't even sound alike. I mean it
Speaker 1: was like like that's a stretch. You know that there's nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's certainly m a stretch whenever Wherever
Speaker 1: released October two. You're right, I do remember that time
Speaker 1: he mark Santa's say the words whatever whenever his hips.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just like didn't Also, I wish
Speaker 1: someone for Sakira would have helped her out. She named
Speaker 1: her first album, uh, laundry Service. That's just not a
Speaker 1: great album title. But you know we have a lock
Speaker 1: that's right. I locked it up I've locked against the
Speaker 1: Cardinals all three weeks. Really, unfortunately they've played. They played
Speaker 1: the Panthers next. You're two and one. Perfect if it
Speaker 1: wasn't for that little guy Kyler, perfect too, if it
Speaker 1: wasn't the guy with a giant helmet and the little seat.
Speaker 1: Let's move on, check in with what happened across the street.
Speaker 1: Blood bath for the other l A team. Give it
Speaker 1: to James Robinson. He's got it in more forty thirty five,
Speaker 1: thirty five, twenty tifteen ten five touchdown on fourth down.
Speaker 1: James Robinson pro close for those score. Yeah. I just
Speaker 1: realized Greg doesn't even because he's four in age thirty
Speaker 1: two standing up, he doesn't even know the pop culture reference.
Speaker 1: He just dropped the Scooby Doo reference. Greg actually turned
Speaker 1: into a bad guy from Scooby Doo, and I would
Speaker 1: have gotten away with it too. If you don't know
Speaker 1: that bit, you don't know that everyone knows the bit
Speaker 1: at the you know the amusement park. I mean we
Speaker 1: know it's from watching Scooby Doo. He knows because other
Speaker 1: people of reference Scooby Doo. Frank Frangie the Jaguars Radio
Speaker 1: Network with the call James ro Robinson Man, he's looked
Speaker 1: good all year rang long, coming off that Achilles injury.
Speaker 1: He ran for a hundred on the nose and a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence stack in good games now to sixty two
Speaker 1: and three touches, and guess what the Jaguars beat up
Speaker 1: the Chargers and the beat up Justin Herbert to ten
Speaker 1: whoa and Mark tell us it wasn't this bad man
Speaker 1: by the way, the Jaguars snapping eight teen game road
Speaker 1: losing streak. You know what I don't. I don't like
Speaker 1: the way I set you up there, Mark, The Chargers
Speaker 1: will get to But how about these Jaguars, I I
Speaker 1: tell you, Like Doug Peterson, it's one of the things
Speaker 1: where it could have gone sideways because all offseason long,
Speaker 1: we've sort of guaranteed that I don't think he is
Speaker 1: right now. I don't think he is because it's working.
Speaker 1: Like we said, Trevor Lawrence would benefit be the primary beneficiary,
Speaker 1: and he is. Like when is the last time, if
Speaker 1: it's ever happened that at one point the Jaguars today
Speaker 1: field goal, field goal in a row, touchdown, field goal,
Speaker 1: end of half. You know, it was like one play touchdown, touchdown,
Speaker 1: touchdown and just sent the Chargers into another dimension. But now,
Speaker 1: to be fair, I think number one two weeks in
Speaker 1: a row, Trevor Lawrence has made major steps and I
Speaker 1: think if you watch this game, what I think about
Speaker 1: him is that he seems to it and it's so
Speaker 1: clear this just wasn't the case and last year's disorganized attack.
Speaker 1: He's well coached. He seems calm. He had one point
Speaker 1: had a rusher all over him and made a calm completion.
Speaker 1: It's like last year this stuff was not happening. He's
Speaker 1: got great chemistry with Christian Kirk. James Robinson's running the
Speaker 1: ball the way that you mentioned, and they were playing
Speaker 1: a Chargers team that we're extremely vulnerable. It starts with
Speaker 1: the fact that Justin Herbert is playing with cracked rib cartilage,
Speaker 1: and it shows I think he's he doesn't want to here,
Speaker 1: He's not wanting to take the hits. I think it's
Speaker 1: down downfield velocity is affected. That said, he had a
Speaker 1: throw in this game that kind of reminded me of
Speaker 1: last week after he took the hit and made the
Speaker 1: incredible completion. But Joey Bosa went out of this game.
Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray went out that had a lot to do
Speaker 1: with zero pass rush and getting run all over Rashawn Slater.
Speaker 1: You're star left tackle is gone. Corey Linsley was gone
Speaker 1: after last week, so your your offensive line is reduced
Speaker 1: by two quality players. Keenan Allen wasn't in this game.
Speaker 1: J C. Jackson wasn't. So Kenneth Murray left with an
Speaker 1: injury like this is unbelievable. Yeah so, I mean that
Speaker 1: doesn't take away from the fact that Jacksonville just they
Speaker 1: took advantage of that and blew the doors off. But
Speaker 1: this wasn't the Chargers team that we expected to see.
Speaker 1: And Brandon Staley, this is a bad loss. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't care what who's injured. Everyone's got injuries. This
Speaker 1: is just a bad loss. And I think Brandon Stanley's lost.
Speaker 1: How is Justin Herbert playing with two minutes to go
Speaker 1: in this game with damaged ribs that you don't know
Speaker 1: if he's going to recover from that at any point
Speaker 1: this season. If you have a chance to get him
Speaker 1: out of the game and not take any more hits
Speaker 1: and prepare for the next game, what what are we doing? Man?
Speaker 1: They um you know responded Staley did by saying Justin
Speaker 1: that was up to Justin and it's like last week,
Speaker 1: it's not up to Justine. Like he insisted, he didn't
Speaker 1: want to let down his team as you can make
Speaker 1: decisions on on how to handle your best players that
Speaker 1: those are important. Now the Chargers are devastated, I think
Speaker 1: after this game for for a number of reasons, but
Speaker 1: you still want them to handle it better. Lindsay Theory
Speaker 1: or Theory of ESPN said, the locker room cleared out
Speaker 1: as quickly as I've ever seen from a home team
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and she said it was interesting that
Speaker 1: today's a crossroads for them how it was handled. Only
Speaker 1: two team captains available after the game to address the
Speaker 1: loss with reporters, and you of all the injuries and
Speaker 1: they they're really concerning Joey Bosa with with the groin,
Speaker 1: and you know, Keenan Allen didn't play in this game.
Speaker 1: They've really missed, Lindsay, they're they're not the same. I
Speaker 1: mean Lindsley as a Pro Bowl type center. The injury
Speaker 1: to Rashaan Slater, and we'll get the final word on
Speaker 1: what they're it is, but to me, it doesn't sound good.
Speaker 1: That could absolutely change the course of their season, because
Speaker 1: if you're starting Storm Norton and Trey Pipkins for a
Speaker 1: long time or for the rest of the season, it's
Speaker 1: just even if Herbert's healthy, it's not the same. This
Speaker 1: is the most ominous feeling we've had about any team
Speaker 1: we've discussed on the show so far this season. The
Speaker 1: charges right now for a team that is historically disappointed,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of product crumbs. It's still very early.
Speaker 1: It's only three games. J C. Jackson didn't that's five
Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers, literally, five probos. Let's get the Jaguars just
Speaker 1: a little bit of love though. I mean James James Robinson.
Speaker 1: James Robinson division back off and a chill. He's better
Speaker 1: than any running back in my memory. He has made
Speaker 1: all that. Like Urban Meyer is at home watching this
Speaker 1: being like, hmm, that guy should have maybe uh leaned
Speaker 1: into that guy, James Robinson, that like, that guy is good.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing about Trevor Lawrence so is I don't
Speaker 1: think he's did he look did he have to make
Speaker 1: spectacular places? Almost that he's not making spectacular place last
Speaker 1: two weeks. He looks like a system orderback and they're
Speaker 1: building him up because I think the spectacular plays because
Speaker 1: of his talent will come. The fact that they're this
Speaker 1: good with him just kind of moving the ball with
Speaker 1: quick throws is a great sign. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: I don't think they're putting it on him to make
Speaker 1: those kind of plays yet, but his floor is raised
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot. It's awesome. Good job, Jacks fans
Speaker 1: deserve it. Among the best fans in the NFL, all right,
Speaker 1: according to Greg. I mean, I don't disagree, but I
Speaker 1: don't know how we're measuring them. So let's move on.
Speaker 1: Let's talk zeusus got work to do on that plane.
Speaker 1: By the way, because I do the power rankings and
Speaker 1: the Dolphins just beat the Bills. It's like the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are the number one team? Are you going to put
Speaker 1: them over the Bills? Because I mean it was to
Speaker 1: watch it, right, but I mean I don't know how
Speaker 1: to watch it. But there's a case to be made.
Speaker 1: Where were there before the Dolphins? I think seven or something.
Speaker 1: I think there is one other team though that maybe
Speaker 1: if I feel like it's too soon for the Dolphins
Speaker 1: again that type of love. There's a team in the
Speaker 1: NFC East. Oh, I like it. You're right, about this.
Speaker 1: Let's looking hurt firing, he clutter of the cover of
Speaker 1: the ends. He wants sky. They cut that off. You
Speaker 1: know what, they don't have a number one and a
Speaker 1: number two. Receive them play a two number one. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, Philly is let and Merril Reese is is
Speaker 1: caught up in the hype machine. Is everybody else. But
Speaker 1: you know what, Hype isn't the right word because we're
Speaker 1: seeing results, not receipts. Results. Jalen Hurts the DeVonta Smith
Speaker 1: for the touchdown, and once again it is the Eagles
Speaker 1: who are just dominating with an easy win to eight
Speaker 1: over the Washington Commanders, who are down zip in this
Speaker 1: game before safety. Obviously they got an attack on score
Speaker 1: here um to make it somewhat respectable. But mark Um,
Speaker 1: both sides of the ball humming for the Eagles right now. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean, think of what their secondary did to Minnesota
Speaker 1: week ago. This game, different units step up entirely. And
Speaker 1: it's the offense who at halftime had three twenty two
Speaker 1: yards to fifty for Washington and that was not with
Speaker 1: a tilted time of possession. It was real. It was
Speaker 1: essentially even they just Jalen Hurts just simply caught fire.
Speaker 1: And it is connection with DeVonta Smith, and it is
Speaker 1: a j Brown who like, if you're gonna handle one,
Speaker 1: you can't handle the other. And it is a true
Speaker 1: pick your poison type scenario. And Jalen Hurts makes all
Speaker 1: of it so much harder to defend because if you're
Speaker 1: off him, off he goes. And the defense on the
Speaker 1: flip side. You know Carson Wentz, we've seen him go
Speaker 1: good half, bad half, and so certainly we saw the
Speaker 1: bad half again. So would the script follow the way
Speaker 1: it did last week? Well there was no chance for
Speaker 1: it too, because the Eagles absolutely separated Cartson Smith. Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz into about forty five parts with a no team
Speaker 1: has done this nine slacks and sound like a game pass.
Speaker 1: I want to watch that nine sacks in this game?
Speaker 1: Are you guys interested in the reel of Carson Wentz?
Speaker 1: So yes, I am here. It is fact, Goes Wins.
Speaker 1: He's looking he has sucked, thank god, fuck bumble long
Speaker 1: went back and they've hit him a back, goes Glens.
Speaker 1: He has think, drip talks there sucks love. The four
Speaker 1: he's been harrass he's hit here comes from they've gone
Speaker 1: about game I know it does, but it was like
Speaker 1: every four minutes in this game and it went certainly
Speaker 1: is someone who's gonna hold onto the ball and walk
Speaker 1: into a couple of these We've seen that before. He
Speaker 1: had a chance, and Washington's line has not been that
Speaker 1: bad this season. It's not been that has not been
Speaker 1: the story every game. But like he did have no
Speaker 1: chance and their offense was completely defunct and there was
Speaker 1: no comeback in this one. I want to hear from
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts here because one of my favorite quotes of
Speaker 1: the young season came from Jalen Hurts talking about DeVonta Smith, who,
Speaker 1: by the way, had a career high hundred sixty nine
Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown on those eight catches. A J.
Speaker 1: Brown also had a good day and a touchdown, So yes,
Speaker 1: they are humming here. Here's what Jalen Hurts to say
Speaker 1: about Davonta Smith. But eyes, he may be a little slid,
Speaker 1: but he plays like a big boy. And he is
Speaker 1: when when his numbers called, I know you're asking the phone.
Speaker 1: By the eyes, he might be a little slight, but
Speaker 1: he plays like a big boy. He's a guy. When
Speaker 1: his numbers called, I know he'll answer. The phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe. I couldn't believe the narrative after Week
Speaker 1: one of like like, well it's Davonta Smith gonna get
Speaker 1: lost in the offense. Like have you watched Davante Smith
Speaker 1: played football? The only concern I ever had that that
Speaker 1: he stays on the field because you look at him
Speaker 1: and he's slight, but he's tough despite that. And they
Speaker 1: have two ones. That was a great way to put it.
Speaker 1: He is an incredible young receiver. They everyone hits on
Speaker 1: early receivers lately except for Jalen Reagor, Like you can't
Speaker 1: miss every early receiver the last few years has been amazing.
Speaker 1: And and coming off of that package we looked at
Speaker 1: of Wentz getting hit Brandon Graham had five QB hits alone.
Speaker 1: They had seventeen. They're putting up crooked numbers in terms
Speaker 1: of QB hits. I've never heard of seventeen. Is that
Speaker 1: a record? I mean, if you have seventeen QB hits
Speaker 1: and then you have the offense playing the way it is,
Speaker 1: it's pretty much it looks like there's just there's no
Speaker 1: overt weakness at this point. My way too early. Week
Speaker 1: three m V p rankings. I got Lamar Hurts, Josh
Speaker 1: Allen one two three. I think that's right. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: would be my top three. That is an unbelievable situation
Speaker 1: they have cooking in Philly. Now, like we saw what
Speaker 1: the bills, things change. They will be challenged soon enough,
Speaker 1: and they will you know, even go down and they
Speaker 1: have to stay healthy and don't want to be the
Speaker 1: next charges. But where this team is. You get why everybody,
Speaker 1: including Merril Reese is this is better than I ever
Speaker 1: could have imagined. But one of the reasons I picked
Speaker 1: them to make this when the Super Bowl was because
Speaker 1: I thought they could get the one seed because the
Speaker 1: schedule is cake and you look at the schedule ahead
Speaker 1: and they're gonna to be decent sized favorites until about
Speaker 1: week eleven. Yeah, they are well set up to get
Speaker 1: the number one seed potentially, especially with the issues for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys this year. All right, let's take a break
Speaker 1: and then uh roll on. Welcome back. All right, the
Speaker 1: defending a f C champions don't have a win entering
Speaker 1: week three. What happened at the Meadowlands. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: him burrow back to throw plot fight, Tyler Boyd spreading
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field of lunches for the
Speaker 1: end zone touchdown sidals on the final play of the
Speaker 1: quarter as Tyler Boyd pinballed off two defenders and took
Speaker 1: it to the house. You guys know, it's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite things. I love the partner in the booth
Speaker 1: who just forgets that he's being paid and he's just
Speaker 1: cheering for his team. I mean, they are getting by
Speaker 1: the Bengals, so yeah, I mean that felt desperate though.
Speaker 1: That felt like we're rowing two and we need this
Speaker 1: dead Horde and Dave Lap with the call w c
Speaker 1: k Y Joe Burrow and the bank. You know it's
Speaker 1: too easy for that. They got the big win and
Speaker 1: the offense looked like the offense for the first time
Speaker 1: in a long time. I mean even before the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Burrow through three touchdown passes, the defending a f C champions.
Speaker 1: They get that first win over the season. They just
Speaker 1: take out the Jets seven to twelve. Uh. They made
Speaker 1: some Greg You've taken some pot shots at Zach Taylor
Speaker 1: in recent days, and I thought he made a smart move.
Speaker 1: He picked up the black polo and he pulled it
Speaker 1: over his head and he said, I know we always
Speaker 1: when we win the coin toss, we defer to the
Speaker 1: second half, but we need some more urgency. They win
Speaker 1: the coin toss for the first time, I think since
Speaker 1: Taylor has been the coach. They say we take the ball,
Speaker 1: They go right down the field. They scored touchdown and
Speaker 1: it was kind of over at that point. And and
Speaker 1: you know, the score looks like it wasn't a total blowout,
Speaker 1: but this game never felt competitive. Uh. The Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 1: were a much better, more complete team, cleaner team, less
Speaker 1: some mistakes, better um protection of Joe Burrow. The running
Speaker 1: game is still a little man. But other than that,
Speaker 1: took care of business against the Jets. Team that, other
Speaker 1: than a two minute miracle there against the Browns, has
Speaker 1: been bad. I mean, you talked about the Chargers as
Speaker 1: the most ominous team that we've discussed, and so tonight
Speaker 1: I think you're right. But as of a couple of
Speaker 1: days ago, it kind of was the Bengals because they
Speaker 1: were in a rough, rough spot. And you're right, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a get right game, and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: it's a true measuring stick against the Jets team that
Speaker 1: they have issues, but they came out and got they
Speaker 1: came out and did. I thought Burrow looked good from
Speaker 1: what I saw, But I am concerned because I think
Speaker 1: what's set them up in weeks prior where they can't
Speaker 1: soften up a defense is that ground game. And I
Speaker 1: don't when I let's see Joe mix and running for
Speaker 1: twenty four yards off of twelve carries, that is not
Speaker 1: what was happening last year when they were good prior
Speaker 1: to the playoffs, and in the playoffs, they were dominating teams,
Speaker 1: especially in their own division, with the ground game. And
Speaker 1: so I just want to see that down the stretch
Speaker 1: fix itself or I don't think this is a Bengals
Speaker 1: are fine situation. Well, this is probably Joe Flacco's last star,
Speaker 1: at least in this stretch of games. Zach Wilson's reportedly
Speaker 1: gonna be ready for next week. There's no reason to
Speaker 1: think that that they're not going right back to him.
Speaker 1: Uh what what were you most disappointed by? Because I'm
Speaker 1: actually surprised. You know, we talked before the show and
Speaker 1: you were pretty down on the defense, Dan, But you know,
Speaker 1: I look at the box score and it doesn't look
Speaker 1: too bad. Five yards per play for the Bengals. You know,
Speaker 1: A game where they lose the turnover margin four to one.
Speaker 1: I would be, you know, normally pointing more fingers at
Speaker 1: the offense, but you seem disappointed that Like Sala's defense,
Speaker 1: which does look good on paper, and I think it's
Speaker 1: had moments this year, but it's been it's been a
Speaker 1: little up and down. Tell what I like about the defense. Obviously,
Speaker 1: they did a good job stop in the run this week.
Speaker 1: Last week against the Browns. Not so much. UM. They
Speaker 1: give up too many big plays. There's too many miscommunications.
Speaker 1: I like Sauce Garden a lot, and he he played
Speaker 1: a role in UM once again, Jamar Chase being very quiet.
Speaker 1: He even gotten Jamaar Chase's head a little bit, I
Speaker 1: thought at a point point in this game, even though
Speaker 1: Chase did have a touchdown six for twenty nine. But
Speaker 1: in general, the defense has been a difference maker. The
Speaker 1: pass rush does not get home. For all the talk
Speaker 1: we heard about how deep their front seven is, how
Speaker 1: Karl Lawson's back, I'm just I'm not seeing them taking
Speaker 1: that step defensively. And on the Flacco side of things, Listen,
Speaker 1: you could argue for a team that's UM in transition
Speaker 1: and trying to build this is kind of fine the
Speaker 1: way and end up playing out because there's no there's
Speaker 1: no indecision here. Flacco cannot move and more problematic beyond
Speaker 1: just the stone age opponent aspect of it is he
Speaker 1: can't hold onto the ball. You every time this guy
Speaker 1: gets hit, that ball is out. So in addition to
Speaker 1: having zero mobility and to make off platform and plays,
Speaker 1: he is a turnover machine. He threw two interceptions, fumbled
Speaker 1: a bunch of times. It's time to move to Zack
Speaker 1: and see what he can do. And if he can't,
Speaker 1: it could get ugly. We gotta find out out. But
Speaker 1: goodwin by Cincinnati. They get to one and two and um,
Speaker 1: I think they got some of their mojo back to
Speaker 1: Let's see if that carries over. Let's now move on
Speaker 1: to what went down in Nashville. Speaking of teams that
Speaker 1: need a w tay get it off card throw short,
Speaker 1: it was him, Mike Cole dead fire knocked it down.
Speaker 1: It's Runey forded twenty two. Nice job underneath by Cole.
Speaker 1: Jop a fire too. Do you know right where they
Speaker 1: were going with it? Mike Keith Date McGinness. They called
Speaker 1: w g f X. Yes, the Raiders pulled within two late,
Speaker 1: but it was the defense that gets that stopped the
Speaker 1: failed two point conversion is the difference for the Titans
Speaker 1: who get that win in the cornered Animal Game two
Speaker 1: over the windless still windless Raiders. And I believe there
Speaker 1: was a report after the game that Josh McDaniels, Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, now off to another rough start to
Speaker 1: coaching for although you got off to a really good
Speaker 1: start in Denver six and are things absolutely imploded? He's
Speaker 1: going in the opposite direction. And I believe there was
Speaker 1: a report that he had a meeting with the long
Speaker 1: meeting with Mark Davis before the press conference. So it's
Speaker 1: not just like you're gonna meeting, but we're gonna have
Speaker 1: this meeting in a way that every reporter knows you're having. Alright,
Speaker 1: Grave Digger, I know all the bad job by you,
Speaker 1: justin let's be fair. You should not have picked against
Speaker 1: your team. Reverse jinks. You know, Ryan Tannehill throw us
Speaker 1: for two sixty four. He has two touchdowns, one passing,
Speaker 1: one rushing. Derrick Henry finally gets going a little bit.
Speaker 1: How in the first game post Taylor Luan losing your
Speaker 1: left tackle to a knee injury. How are you feeling
Speaker 1: about them at the end of this game, still a
Speaker 1: lot of concern, to be honest. The defense was allowing
Speaker 1: the Raiders to pretty much march up and down the field,
Speaker 1: but it was nice to see the offensive line got
Speaker 1: some real push in the run game in this one,
Speaker 1: and that has not been the case the first two weeks.
Speaker 1: Henry had some holes, he was also bouncing off defenders
Speaker 1: spinning down the field, picking up yards after contact, just
Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry that we've gotten used to. So it
Speaker 1: was nice to see that even without Taylor Lawan, they
Speaker 1: could run the ball effectively. The past protection wasn't great,
Speaker 1: but Tannehill did a good job getting the ball out
Speaker 1: and avoiding pressure, except for one near disaster strip sack
Speaker 1: that the Titans jumped on at the end of the game.
Speaker 1: That could have been pretty terrible, but it happened. I mean,
Speaker 1: they didn't score in the second half, so you must
Speaker 1: have been sweating it. It felt very much like the
Speaker 1: Raiders Cardinals game, but the difference, it's like the two
Speaker 1: point conversion doesn't happen for the Roars. Aren't that close
Speaker 1: to being winning. A couple of these games felt like
Speaker 1: the Titans Giants Week one game where the Titans get
Speaker 1: up to a big halftime lead and then completely do
Speaker 1: nothing on offense in the second half. That's and give
Speaker 1: up some big plays. The Titans run defense also didn't
Speaker 1: look very good. The the Raiders ran the ball nineteen
Speaker 1: times that they averaged um six point Sorry, they averaged
Speaker 1: five point one yards per carry, but the only ran
Speaker 1: at nineteen times and that's part of being down by
Speaker 1: two scores for the second half. But the Titans run
Speaker 1: defense has not looked good all season, and the Raiders
Speaker 1: didn't really take advantage of that. I am happy, but
Speaker 1: the Titans secondary was pretty game. They were if they
Speaker 1: were brutal. But Davante Adams ends up with thirty six
Speaker 1: yards and then mac Collins has a hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: and I know he had a big six yard playing there,
Speaker 1: but that he's still had eight eight catches. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not really the script you would imagine for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: So Terrence Mitchell, who was signed off the Steelers practice
Speaker 1: squad by the Titans earlier this week, played a ton
Speaker 1: of snaps outside at cornerback. Caleb Farley healthy played one snap,
Speaker 1: So what does that say about Caleb Farley's development probably
Speaker 1: not good things. But Mac Collins was torching Terrence Mitchell.
Speaker 1: I mean he looked totally lost down the field. And
Speaker 1: Davante Adams His used to his usages puzzling to me,
Speaker 1: because I get it they're moving him around a lot
Speaker 1: to try to like throw off the defense or whatever.
Speaker 1: He's lining up inside a lot. He was in the
Speaker 1: slot a lot in this game. But when he was
Speaker 1: in the slot, the Titans would have the nickel cornerback
Speaker 1: on him and then a linebacker was like there to
Speaker 1: bracket him because he kept running these little short routes
Speaker 1: over the middle and wasn't really that open very often.
Speaker 1: And I mean ten targets, Like seeing that he had
Speaker 1: ten targets is actually surprising to be watched. After watching
Speaker 1: the game, it didn't felt like he was that much
Speaker 1: of a go to guy for them, and they need
Speaker 1: a second guy. Ren Froze hurt and hasn't produced. Waller
Speaker 1: could have caught a ball at the goal line that
Speaker 1: ended up being picked off. I mean, that's about as
Speaker 1: big a play as you can have in a game.
Speaker 1: It flips, you know, the seven points of the ball
Speaker 1: to the other team. Uh. They remind me a lot
Speaker 1: of the John Gruden Raiders in that that those teams
Speaker 1: always moved the ball and couldn't finish drives. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's if it the Derek Carr thing or what,
Speaker 1: but that that was a team that could move it
Speaker 1: up and down the field and and couldn't really capital
Speaker 1: this Raider like the the whole Raiders thing this whole
Speaker 1: off season, which now I'm now I'm piqued and slightly um,
Speaker 1: I'm annoyed. Now. They spent all offseason saying like, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: you know you're counting us out in this division. Blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. You don't understand what we are. But it's
Speaker 1: your own three. Come back to us, Raiders, you're the
Speaker 1: the oh and three team in the league. And by
Speaker 1: the way, come back to his n f A f
Speaker 1: C West. You're not that impressive to me either. The
Speaker 1: game was the red zone for sure, Raiders two for
Speaker 1: six and the red zone Titans scored touchdowns in their
Speaker 1: trips to the red zone. That's what That's what it did.
Speaker 1: In to what you were talking about earlier, Greg, that's
Speaker 1: three losses to start the season for the Raiders by
Speaker 1: combined thirteen points and they had a chance to win
Speaker 1: at the end of all of those games. But still
Speaker 1: the vibes also ominous, not moribund, but ominous. Let's move
Speaker 1: on fourth down at eighteen at eight Smith Atlanta trying
Speaker 1: to get there. There's Gino to his right. Put a
Speaker 1: crow down field. That is sept that Ritchie Grant's got
Speaker 1: this one. Fifteen slides down nineteen yard line. Ritchie Grant
Speaker 1: tubs up with his first career interception. That was Geno
Speaker 1: Smith throwing the interception that doom the Seattle seahaw Hawks
Speaker 1: in a kind of a fun game to watch between
Speaker 1: two teams that probably aren't gonna be dancing. There won't
Speaker 1: be prancing either making erroneous injury guestimates, but they won't
Speaker 1: be dancing in the playoffs either, But they can entertain
Speaker 1: us on a Sunday in September. That's how I felt
Speaker 1: Falcons over Seahawks. Marcus Mariota had his obligatory um turnover
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter that almost killed his team, but overall,
Speaker 1: I thought he looked pretty good in this game. Cordrel Patterson, man,
Speaker 1: what else can you say about this man? He's had
Speaker 1: a hundred forty one yards on a touchdown. Um, I
Speaker 1: hope you didn't have him on your bench and fantasy
Speaker 1: I did. Uh? Really, how good is your team? Not
Speaker 1: very good? Kyle Pitts, Drake London, they both make an impact.
Speaker 1: So the offense of the Falcons continues to be frisky
Speaker 1: and uh. And when it came down to a geno
Speaker 1: how to make a play there, he could not make
Speaker 1: the play. So the Seattle Seahawks dropped their second straight.
Speaker 1: It was tough, do you know, on the move? Playmaking
Speaker 1: not really his strength. Uh. It did remind me of
Speaker 1: last year's couple of games before the Jaguars game, where
Speaker 1: he played pretty well and then at the end of
Speaker 1: it fell apart. I mean, he had a great game
Speaker 1: until that moment. Three five yards, two touchdowns, was almost
Speaker 1: perfect in the first half. The both teams are going
Speaker 1: up and down the field. But he hasn't put together
Speaker 1: two great halfs. And as much as Pete Carroll's talking about,
Speaker 1: like we gotta, you know, let Gino throw more, h
Speaker 1: he's earned it. I don't know if forty four throws
Speaker 1: is the recipe here for the Seahawks and giving up
Speaker 1: more than ten yards per throw to Marcus Mariota. I
Speaker 1: mean their defense is a mess, one of the bottom
Speaker 1: five defenses in the league, and having Gino throw forty
Speaker 1: five times, it's it's just been a lot. Greg Rosalt
Speaker 1: sweet three hours ago. If you combine Geno's first half
Speaker 1: against Denver in his first half today, you'd have a
Speaker 1: beautiful baby. I think that that was a great sweet.
Speaker 1: It was like if you combine them, like if they
Speaker 1: made love to each other, you just had a beautiful
Speaker 1: football baby. That's the problem, because that's what you have
Speaker 1: to do with squint enough with Gino Smith to concoct him.
Speaker 1: He's performing as well as you could possibly hope. The
Speaker 1: rest of the team is not helping out very much,
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, they're not gonna win trying to throw
Speaker 1: the ball, you know. I just think Gino Smith is
Speaker 1: who he is, and like I think he also he
Speaker 1: is when he's protected and things are good. He's a
Speaker 1: clean quarterback and he's I think he's impressed me more
Speaker 1: than I thought he would have overall. But I think
Speaker 1: what Pete Carroll and John Schnyder were trying to sell
Speaker 1: two Seahawks fans before this season was Gino Smith will
Speaker 1: be enough if we can run the ball really well,
Speaker 1: and that's what we planned to do. And if our
Speaker 1: defense is competent and the defense is incompetent and the
Speaker 1: running game is well, that's a great point. Mark, Well
Speaker 1: it is. It's actually dead on why Gino Smith is crumbling.
Speaker 1: Just feel like they deserved to be one and two.
Speaker 1: So that I kind of got was legitimately very good
Speaker 1: in the first half in this game, they just couldn't
Speaker 1: put it together and just heads up to Fox just
Speaker 1: and this goes for all telecasts. The world we live
Speaker 1: in now, there's a lot of drones out there, and
Speaker 1: every once in a while a drone flies into an
Speaker 1: airspace where it's not supposed to be. And it led
Speaker 1: to a five minute to lay in the game, and
Speaker 1: it's unfortunate they throw to a commercial break. He used
Speaker 1: the bathroom, or you get a drink or whatever you
Speaker 1: want to do. Come back, sit down. I'm ready to
Speaker 1: watch the game. I don't need to throwing it down
Speaker 1: to the sideline reporter telling me drone update. Don't care
Speaker 1: and I could guess what happened. I'm with you, and
Speaker 1: I find it not necessary like it happened. What did
Speaker 1: you want them to do? Well, they had to say why,
Speaker 1: but it happened at Patriots practice last year. But Conn
Speaker 1: or our friend did Um have an added nugget that
Speaker 1: the telecast, which I think is adding something to it,
Speaker 1: said that the drone had appeared over the University of
Speaker 1: Washington football game yesterday, but then simply went row and
Speaker 1: began began flying over the stadium today like it was
Speaker 1: in control. It just like took off on its own.
Speaker 1: From a technology angle, slightly concerned. But the most accurate treat,
Speaker 1: like the truest tweet I saw day, was from our
Speaker 1: friend Danny Jamieson, who said, this whole drone thing felt
Speaker 1: like a Mark Sessler sandwich prop that was never made
Speaker 1: like this. This was your cornered Mark. You should have
Speaker 1: just right predicted it. Yeah. I was gonna say, Tommy
Speaker 1: Lee Jones and the fugit have had it right. I
Speaker 1: don't care. Well, I mean I don't care about that either. Well,
Speaker 1: that would be notable. He's a U S marshal. His
Speaker 1: job was only and that was by the way impromped
Speaker 1: by Tommy Lee Jones. I don't care, Um that his
Speaker 1: job is not to decide guilt or innocence of Harrison
Speaker 1: Ford's character. The Great Richard Kimball. His job is to
Speaker 1: bring him to justice. You reel him in and then
Speaker 1: you put him. Then Tommy Lee Jones goes on with
Speaker 1: the rest of his day. So what he told was
Speaker 1: trying to tell Dr Richard Kimball there is like, hey man,
Speaker 1: it's not personal. I'm doing my job here. Well that's
Speaker 1: your opinion. I think it's a correct one great movie.
Speaker 1: One more then Sunday Night Football. Back to Mills intercepted
Speaker 1: in their hands Quart Smith tripped up by Mills. Do
Speaker 1: it this Baby, do it dance is piss in the
Speaker 1: hands Smith on the near side, it's picked off. Bears
Speaker 1: defense turns him over. Jeff Johnny I go with a
Speaker 1: called w B b M. Roquan Smith big seals another
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears wor. The Bears are two in one after
Speaker 1: victory over Lovey Smith. The former Bears coach in the
Speaker 1: Houston Texans, Greggy uh Good job by Clear Herbert here
Speaker 1: stepped in for an injured David Montgomery, and the Bears
Speaker 1: all all things considered, have to be feeling pretty good
Speaker 1: about by Herbert, Good job by Roquan Smith. Good job
Speaker 1: by both of these teams, serving up a highly entertaining game.
Speaker 1: Back and forth under a twelve and a half, a
Speaker 1: lot of offense in the first half. I ended up
Speaker 1: taking this game in the and I was thoroughly entertained,
Speaker 1: and it couldn't have been a more Bears victory. Roquan Smith,
Speaker 1: who even before that interception was one of these stories
Speaker 1: of the game. He was absolutely everywhere, sixteen tackles in
Speaker 1: the game. Uh, and then making that interception. Uh, that's
Speaker 1: a Bears like historical linebacker type of game. And then
Speaker 1: the running game like had to have Bears fans going
Speaker 1: crazy that they put up to eighty one on the ground,
Speaker 1: mostly Herbert who to me has looked even better than
Speaker 1: David Montgarmy. Hopefully Montgarmy can get healthy, but they did
Speaker 1: not need him today. Running defense, it was a Bears
Speaker 1: type of this is their teams like this to pop up.
Speaker 1: I can think of a No, the game actually really
Speaker 1: was entertaining. I I really was. It was back and forth.
Speaker 1: I can think of teams like this terrible two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine Eric Mangini team that started like oh and
Speaker 1: ten and then they're like, we can't do anything that
Speaker 1: modern offenses do, so we're just gonna run the ball. NonStop,
Speaker 1: And we could look at the Eagles last year where
Speaker 1: the Hurts was a different quarterback. You just run the
Speaker 1: ball NonStop, and so I if I'm in Chicago, because
Speaker 1: that is how they climbed into the game with Green
Speaker 1: Bay a week ago. This forty attempts for two eighty
Speaker 1: one yards at seven yards carry, but behind what we
Speaker 1: thought was a terrible line, not a terrible run block line.
Speaker 1: Apparently Mark was going to give us the old the
Speaker 1: Mangini Browns dropped a bomb on the Patriots. I thought
Speaker 1: we were getting that direct that was the next season,
Speaker 1: and that had to do with it. That was not
Speaker 1: the same approach I was. I was so excited, but
Speaker 1: that this game, this game would not have looked like
Speaker 1: that one. That that's so that would not have been
Speaker 1: a good place to insert that memory that I've used
Speaker 1: more than I was excited for it. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: if you're a Bears fan, like you can look at
Speaker 1: this and say, if they can take this approach, you're
Speaker 1: two in one who thought they'd be two in one.
Speaker 1: Sneak these wins in this rebuilding year and win anyway
Speaker 1: you can. It says a lot about your coaching study.
Speaker 1: This might be this might be the high point of
Speaker 1: the season, or they might be three and one next
Speaker 1: week after playing the Giants. There are there are some concerns.
Speaker 1: Justin Fields looks to me like like the most lost
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. Today was a nightmare. The fact
Speaker 1: that they won this game with him throwing as ineffectively
Speaker 1: as he has a couple of really bad picks and
Speaker 1: just a couple of plays where it just didn't seem
Speaker 1: like the entire passing operation knew what was happening. It
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a miracle that they could
Speaker 1: win despite that, So that that part of the equation
Speaker 1: is concerning. And yeah, they've they've run it now a
Speaker 1: hundred and four times Dan this year and doing a
Speaker 1: little quick math, they've passed it forty five. I mean,
Speaker 1: when was the last time that's happened in the NFL?
Speaker 1: And you know who they are at least, how did
Speaker 1: David Mills? David Mills look Davis Mills, Uh, he had
Speaker 1: that interception brutal Get me on this plane. They they
Speaker 1: were inside the ten yard line. Good Mills was a
Speaker 1: guy in the crowd though, I want to know, like,
Speaker 1: but his experience was like I'm leaving. He's like the
Speaker 1: brother of Brad Pitt from seven. He looked like a
Speaker 1: real NFL quarterback who made a bunch of a nice plays.
Speaker 1: But he had two terrible interceptions that were Pierce look great, Mills,
Speaker 1: you know they had. Uh he had an interception on
Speaker 1: the goal line where he forced it in there, and uh,
Speaker 1: it was a bad play by him. I think a
Speaker 1: nice play by the by the bid. That's why I
Speaker 1: always do that. By the way, David Mills is the
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt character from seven, and it has been in
Speaker 1: my head for the entire Davis Mills run. But Mills
Speaker 1: did that like young quarterback thing. He like predetermined what
Speaker 1: he was gonna do on that Roquan Smith intercepted and
Speaker 1: even predetermined I'm gonna look them off and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go back to this guy and throw it no
Speaker 1: matter what. And he did look him off, but he
Speaker 1: didn't look to see if it had any effect on
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith, who didn't bite on it at all, and
Speaker 1: so it ruined an otherwise pretty good game. Justin Fields
Speaker 1: was his own worst critic in this game. He said
Speaker 1: that he played like trash, so obviously a lot of
Speaker 1: work to be done on that offense. You want to
Speaker 1: see them grow as an offense and get more, you know,
Speaker 1: some offensive fireworks in the passing game. But they've won
Speaker 1: two out of three and they get the Giants and
Speaker 1: Commanders sandwiched by the Vikings over the next three weeks,
Speaker 1: so we'll see where the Bears are at all. Right,
Speaker 1: that's it for us, right, um, we are going to
Speaker 1: um now sign off, gather our personal affects. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go eat at the huddle rub and that head to
Speaker 1: Los Angeles International Airport, the Tom the David Mills International
Speaker 1: whatever um Nick Shook is going to take us out
Speaker 1: here with the Sunday night football recap um between the
Speaker 1: de Ver Broncos and San Francisco forty Niners, and you
Speaker 1: will hear from us next on Tuesday from London, God willing,
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for watching the stream until next week
Speaker 1: onto London. Jerio Nope, neither. It's well if you are
Speaker 1: sick choosing not to last time out, possibout fifteen seconds,
Speaker 1: Garoppolo just trying to get it out. Wilkeson has it
Speaker 1: on the run. What's the football? Denver's got it, and
Speaker 1: Denver's got this long, Mike Terriico and Chris Collinsworth on
Speaker 1: the call for NBC Sunday Night is home to the
Speaker 1: bright lights of prime time. But all games are not
Speaker 1: created equal, And if anybody had any questions about that,
Speaker 1: they learned that on Sunday Night when the dead ver
Speaker 1: Broncos pulled out their second straight win from the jaws
Speaker 1: of defeat, with Melvin Gordon's one yard touchdown run pushing
Speaker 1: them past the one and two by a riveting final
Speaker 1: of eleven to ten. Yes, it took one sustained drive
Speaker 1: for the Broncos to get past the fourty niners and,
Speaker 1: perhaps more importantly, exercise the demon that has plagued them
Speaker 1: for the last two games. That demon being the fact
Speaker 1: that when they get into gold to ghost situations, they
Speaker 1: can't score a touchdown. They finally did that tonight in
Speaker 1: the win over the forty niners, and then hung on
Speaker 1: with some great defensive play calling, you know, daring Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo to play the side, giving him the sidelines, daring
Speaker 1: him to play the middle of the field where they
Speaker 1: forced an interception, a predictable interception, and really, uh kind
Speaker 1: of a bummer for the redemption narrative. That Jimmy Garoppolo
Speaker 1: was riding into the week. You know, a guy who
Speaker 1: came back, restructured his contract, ends up in the starting
Speaker 1: role again for the forty Niners, you know, by unfortunate circumstance,
Speaker 1: and he's here to prove that he should have been
Speaker 1: here all along, that maybe his time in San Francisco
Speaker 1: was not over, and forty fans were unfortunately reminded of
Speaker 1: why the franchise was trying to move on from him
Speaker 1: with his decision making in this game. That's not the
Speaker 1: only turnover he had. The only other bad play he had.
Speaker 1: Dani Orlovski got some great new company in the rare club,
Speaker 1: the unenviable club of quarterbacks who were uh seen well
Speaker 1: essentially cemented their legacy by running out of the back
Speaker 1: of the end zone to get a safety. Those two
Speaker 1: points actually mattered a whole lot for the Broncos, considering
Speaker 1: the fact that they won eleven to ten, but it's
Speaker 1: far from the only statistics that mattered in this game.
Speaker 1: That was well pretty ugly. Okay, one for ten on
Speaker 1: third down for the forty Niners. That's not gonna get
Speaker 1: it done. Six for nineteen for the Broncos also really
Speaker 1: not gonna get it done. But unlike pass games for
Speaker 1: the Broncos, they were a little more organized. They came
Speaker 1: out of the huddle and actually had the play called
Speaker 1: and we're able to get set before the play clock
Speaker 1: ran down. Those Broncos fans didn't need to count down
Speaker 1: the play clock for them, as they had, you know,
Speaker 1: in a sarcastic tone in the week before. But for
Speaker 1: a second straight week, the Broncos come away with a
Speaker 1: win that kind of doesn't really feel like a win,
Speaker 1: but they all count the same. Broncos now two and one,
Speaker 1: tied to top the a f C West in the
Speaker 1: division in which was supposed to be the most difficult
Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL, And somehow, some way,
Speaker 1: despite all their disorganization, the are sitting pretty thanks in
Speaker 1: large part to the way their defense played in this game,
Speaker 1: forcing three turnovers. In this game against the forty Niners,
Speaker 1: offense takes a step back. You know what you get
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo. He's a quarterback that doesn't have a
Speaker 1: super high ceiling, but can manage a game for you. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: he has not often been the quarterback they can go
Speaker 1: win a game for you, and once they found themselves
Speaker 1: trailing by just a single point. He proved again that
Speaker 1: he was not quite that guy. He finished eighteen two
Speaker 1: eleven yards, a touchdown, and that fateful interception. Niners also
Speaker 1: lacking a huge contribution from Deebo Sanlan, who got deemed
Speaker 1: dinged up in this game. Finished the five catches for
Speaker 1: seventy three yards, but didn't make an impact on the ground.
Speaker 1: You know, coming into tonight's game, I picked personally, I
Speaker 1: picked the Broncos in a one point win, seventeen to sixteen,
Speaker 1: a more conventional score. Before this game, only one had
Speaker 1: ever ended in an eleven to ten score in the
Speaker 1: history of the NFL. We now have to, but it
Speaker 1: was a difficult path to get there. The Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: constantly running into the same struggles that have played them
Speaker 1: for the first three weeks. Russell Wilson hanging out to
Speaker 1: the football too long, the offense stalling, making mistakes either
Speaker 1: with penalties or just inaccuracy. There was a situation in
Speaker 1: the second half where, actually late in the first half,
Speaker 1: where Russell Wilson in the offense start on their own one.
Speaker 1: They get all the way down into the Niners territory.
Speaker 1: They're sustaining a drive and then a false start on
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy knocks him back for five yards, then a
Speaker 1: holding on Garrett Bowls knocks him back another ten yards.
Speaker 1: Before you know it, a promising drive ends in a punt.
Speaker 1: Another situation happened to them in the second half where
Speaker 1: they were also forced to punt, and for a while,
Speaker 1: as many people were watching and expressing on Twitter, we
Speaker 1: were wondering if maybe this would end in a seven
Speaker 1: to five game, which is a score fitting more of
Speaker 1: a of a baseball diamond than a football field. But
Speaker 1: luckily the Broncos did find a way to get the
Speaker 1: offense moving failed on the two point conversion which left
Speaker 1: it at eleven attempt, but they were able to able
Speaker 1: to hang on defensively. That's kind of the story for
Speaker 1: both of these teams. Two really good defensive performances. If
Speaker 1: we get past the offensive struggles they were kind of
Speaker 1: caused by defenses. You've got good pass rushes from the Broncos.
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory came up with a key sack, Joey nick
Speaker 1: Bosa excuse me, making key sacks per usual or at
Speaker 1: least causing pressures. Niners putting together pretty good defensive performance overall,
Speaker 1: even guys in the back end of the defense, Sir
Speaker 1: Various Award being another one, breaking up a big pass
Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson attempted for Jerry Judy in the second half.
Speaker 1: But you do, you know, you come away from this
Speaker 1: game kind of feeling like, hey, you know, the Niners
Speaker 1: at one and two, they don't have a ton of
Speaker 1: reasons to be optimistic because Jimmy Garoppolo is their quarterback.
Speaker 1: But then again, this is the game they're gonna wish
Speaker 1: they had back because they know they could have gone
Speaker 1: and wanted if things had you know, played out a
Speaker 1: little bit differently. Broncos. Meanwhile, I gotta feel fortunate to
Speaker 1: be two and one considering all the things they've run into.
Speaker 1: Still not organized offensively, Russell Wilson missing open targets on
Speaker 1: third down, the offense still not hitting that rhythm, and
Speaker 1: inexplicably play calling going away from the running game when
Speaker 1: it's proven to be their strength. They still are not
Speaker 1: running the ball enough, and they're still not getting Javonte
Speaker 1: Williams enough carries. You know, I looked, I took a
Speaker 1: note down during the game where I thought, you know,
Speaker 1: Nathano Hackett and his offense kind of looks like, you know,
Speaker 1: he's playing Madden right now and he just can't resist
Speaker 1: calling that deep shot. It's they've been running the ball
Speaker 1: the way down the field, but you know what, I
Speaker 1: gotta mix it up. I gotta throw the football and
Speaker 1: before you know it, they're behind schedule. So luckily for
Speaker 1: the Broncos, they were able to end that goal to
Speaker 1: go touch down this streak with that touchdown in the
Speaker 1: final quarter. But as Chris Collinsworth said in the first half,
Speaker 1: there are some things going on that they are just
Speaker 1: not together, and it looked like that for much of
Speaker 1: the game. You gotta give credit to the forty Niners
Speaker 1: for playing solid defense. Of course, offense, like we said,
Speaker 1: not so much. Uh Niners also were without Eric Armstead
Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time. But they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to go back to the drawing board and
Speaker 1: figure out, Hey, how do we get better than one
Speaker 1: and two right now? Because this is our situation going forward.
Speaker 1: We are a team quarterback by Jimmy Garoppolo, were without
Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell. We gotta use Deebo Samuel more than we
Speaker 1: did on Sunday night. The bright side for both teams,
Speaker 1: not that it matters all that much unless you're a
Speaker 1: fan of special teams. It is the one third of
Speaker 1: the game. It's the third phase of the game. Punt
Speaker 1: coverage was incredible, multiple punts down inside the five, down
Speaker 1: to the one or two yard line, setting up long fields.
Speaker 1: Neither team really able to dig themselves out of it.
Speaker 1: The Broncos able to get across the midfield before they
Speaker 1: again ran into their own struggles. But overall, Sunday Night football,
Speaker 1: we've seen better games. We've seen I guess we've seen
Speaker 1: worse games. Uh, you hope that the Broncos kind of
Speaker 1: get things sorted out. The reason I picked the Broncos
Speaker 1: going into this week is I was on board with
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. I I I pretty much thought, you know, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, they can't run into these issues forever, right. Uh.
Speaker 1: Eventually did get them ironed out. Well, they didn't quite
Speaker 1: get them ironed out on Sunday Night, but they got
Speaker 1: him ironed out when the time, I guess was most
Speaker 1: important late in the in the game, be able to
Speaker 1: sustain to drive Russell Wilson using his legs, doing something
Speaker 1: that he hadn't done for the majority of his first
Speaker 1: couple of games of the Broncos this season. So thinks
Speaker 1: that we got used to seeing him do in Seattle,
Speaker 1: extending plays with his feet, scrambling for yards, not making
Speaker 1: mistakes with the football. He did that in that final
Speaker 1: drive and then he ripped a great pass down the
Speaker 1: sideline of Courtland Sutton, great actual or throw that sent
Speaker 1: them up for a score. For the first time. We
Speaker 1: saw shades and went off off. This offense should be
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson at quarterback. We'll see if they can
Speaker 1: sustain it. But they come away too and one they're
Speaker 1: moving on victorious Niners. Meanwhile, I gotta go back and
Speaker 1: figure out what went wrong and how they can set
Speaker 1: up going forward. Not much else to say about this
Speaker 1: game other than that, uh, you know, it is what
Speaker 1: it is. It was a Sunday night, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: call a clunker, but it wasn't the most entertaining game. Luckily,
Speaker 1: we got Monday night on deck tomorrow and the guys
Speaker 1: are on their way to London as I speak right now.
Speaker 1: They're getting ready for a full week's worth of coverage
Speaker 1: as the NFL starts its international series over in London.
Speaker 1: So for Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, Dan Hansis. I'm Nick Shook,
Speaker 1: wrapping up your Sunday night coverage, flying solo here while
Speaker 1: those guys fly across the Atlantic Ocean, and as always,
Speaker 1: heed the call.