Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. It's thrilled to be back
Speaker 1: in the UK. From a hotel room in West London,
Speaker 1: It's Around the NFL. I'm Dan Kansas, got heroes around
Speaker 1: a table, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, the Grave Digger and
Speaker 1: yes we have made it down the yellow brick road
Speaker 1: back to London and we've got a great week of
Speaker 1: show is coming up. But right now, this will be
Speaker 1: an interesting show to you the listener because it comes
Speaker 1: from speaking personally and I can already tell Mike and
Speaker 1: Padre Mark Sessler, this will be a show coming from
Speaker 1: a zombie fuge state. I mean, you know, we text
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. Dan, We've not slept
Speaker 1: a lot and it's a natural thing when you come
Speaker 1: to multiple time zones away. But I s I am
Speaker 1: feeling it. I'm feeling strange, I'm feeling bizarre. That could
Speaker 1: be a good thing. Yeah, that's when we get our
Speaker 1: best Sessler. I'm looking forward to this right um. So
Speaker 1: coming up this week we have our live show from
Speaker 1: the the O two Forum in Kentish Town and we
Speaker 1: have a show today obviously, we have a show tomorrow
Speaker 1: Tomorrow Wednesday, a little extra Wednesday pop for y'all. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're having fun. We're here in London. We're gonna make
Speaker 1: it count. We are doing a Friday Fun Show from
Speaker 1: somewhere in this fair city at a pub to be
Speaker 1: named later, and then of course our Thursday preview show
Speaker 1: previewing everything in week four and then the flagship program
Speaker 1: after we head to the Hot Toddy. Correct some call
Speaker 1: it the Big Tot. I know that's an issue that
Speaker 1: some people wrestle with it. What is it as the
Speaker 1: Big Tot is the Hot Toddy. We came up with
Speaker 1: Big Todd a couple of years ago and got quite
Speaker 1: a bit of feedback about I think Hot Toddy stuck,
Speaker 1: it's taken over. It has. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: like you know how um Dion Sanders when he broke
Speaker 1: it was Neon Dion and then it was prime time.
Speaker 1: I think Hot Todd he's like the Neon Dion and
Speaker 1: the Big Tot is gonna be prime time when things
Speaker 1: when the dust settled on this, I don't predict that's
Speaker 1: how it's gonna play out, but um I'm with you
Speaker 1: on the on routing for that. So yes, you got
Speaker 1: that Thursday show, Friday Fun Show live from a pub
Speaker 1: and then Sunday, yes, Viking Saints um at Tottenham Hotspur
Speaker 1: Stadium will be there, and then the flagship show. Then
Speaker 1: back on a plane and then that's when great Mark
Speaker 1: I think the bodies shut down and uh, there's just
Speaker 1: nothing left by the time we get back to the States.
Speaker 1: But we don't have to think about that right now.
Speaker 1: We've given ourselves to the sport um and to London.
Speaker 1: And you know we have family scenarios back in the States. Well,
Speaker 1: tough luck for them. I do like the idea of
Speaker 1: um you and I not making it. And then there's
Speaker 1: a giant statue of us outside um SO Stadium, like
Speaker 1: in a like, just like posing. That's another thing that
Speaker 1: won't happen. Completely exhausted, because we are warriors for this
Speaker 1: company of the Shield, I think the company would forget
Speaker 1: about us in roughly a fortnite. You're probably right, all right,
Speaker 1: let's get to it all, starting with closing the door
Speaker 1: on Monday night football. And yes, raise your hand if
Speaker 1: you were watching this damn game at four thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning in your hotel room, Daddy was hit it.
Speaker 1: Graver pill stutter step moved by Parsons Jones fires in
Speaker 1: a pass, he's intercepted by Diggs. He goes down to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys Tick wrapped it all and they have wrapped
Speaker 1: it up Trayvon Diggs. Yeah, nobody's allowed more receiving yards.
Speaker 1: But the man is a playmaker and he gets his
Speaker 1: hands under that ball. Really nice play it clinch four
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys over the New York Giants on Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football at the meadow Lands. Good energy at that
Speaker 1: in this game. Sometimes these NFC East games, Um, especially,
Speaker 1: I know we've talked about a lot of this podcast
Speaker 1: is like how many times do we have to watch
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and Giants? And I get that, But at
Speaker 1: the same time, this was a game that was thirteen
Speaker 1: thirteen in the second half, the Giants went ahead and
Speaker 1: then the Cowboys showed some gumption here. Uh, Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: and I thought, now two starts in, um, there's no
Speaker 1: mistaking and Cooper Rush has been really good for them. Uh,
Speaker 1: this this season could have gone gone off the rails.
Speaker 1: And I thought, especially in that those three possessions in
Speaker 1: the second half that all produced points where the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were able to take control of this game. Like that's
Speaker 1: the importance of having a competent backup quarterback because by
Speaker 1: the time that comes back, they're gonna be an okay
Speaker 1: position now because they've been able to bank these wins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought he got maybe a little too much credit
Speaker 1: in the win over the Bengals last night. His numbers
Speaker 1: could have been even better if they had made some
Speaker 1: plays for him. Not just that seedee Lamb drop that
Speaker 1: would have been u either a long touchdown or a
Speaker 1: long game, but a couple other nice throws that they
Speaker 1: didn't come down. He played a virtual perfect game. Uh,
Speaker 1: And I thought Lamb taking over in that drive that
Speaker 1: ended up I believe taking the lead, not not tying
Speaker 1: the game, like was the difference having one guy just
Speaker 1: step up. You remember there was a fourth down and
Speaker 1: they decided to go for it. I thought Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: had a great game calling plays. They went for it,
Speaker 1: and I think it was a fourth and medium, fourth
Speaker 1: and fourth. Lamb makes a great catch to convert it
Speaker 1: in tight coverage. He was fourth and fourth the Giants
Speaker 1: right guarded by a Dori Jackson well all night. Then
Speaker 1: the very next play he goes for a big game
Speaker 1: where he runs over defender, makes a guy miss, gets
Speaker 1: to the one, and then the next play after that,
Speaker 1: he catches a one handed touchdown where the other hand
Speaker 1: is pushing Jackson off. They could have called that, they didn't,
Speaker 1: but either way, it was like an amazingly athletic play
Speaker 1: and kind of Seedee Lamb having a I'm the real
Speaker 1: number eighty eight moments. You know, this is why they
Speaker 1: de Bryant's in the house, like I am, I am
Speaker 1: living up to the mark. And I thought that was
Speaker 1: the other takeaway from me, at least on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball, was Ceedee, Lamb needs to be
Speaker 1: that dude for this team, and he hasn't always been
Speaker 1: that dude. Not that he's been a bust by any stretch,
Speaker 1: but he has not always been that dude. And yet
Speaker 1: in this game and money time, so many big plays
Speaker 1: for Lamb. Well, and you know, Lamb after he dropped
Speaker 1: that what would be touchdown, Uh, he went to the
Speaker 1: sideline and you know the story after he was like
Speaker 1: psychologically really messed up by it and teammates had to
Speaker 1: kind of get him back in his focus and to
Speaker 1: come out and finished the game the way he did
Speaker 1: was excellent for the Cowboys. The other thing I loved
Speaker 1: about their offense because when you think about Cowboys Giants
Speaker 1: going way back, and you're right. Then I thought this game,
Speaker 1: I've long been annoyed by the idea that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: and Giants would be just thrust on prime time. They
Speaker 1: get ratings, it's like the four highest rand games. They
Speaker 1: just don't They don't deserve it half the time. But
Speaker 1: this time, I thought this played like an old school
Speaker 1: NFC East showdown. And when they had Jason pete Is
Speaker 1: in there for stretches at left guard and they were
Speaker 1: just having Ezekiel Elliott and totally powdered like pound off
Speaker 1: the left side. That is the kind of football that
Speaker 1: I love to watch. And I thought that that was
Speaker 1: a great approach for Dallas, and I thought, like, we
Speaker 1: have done more if that if Cooper Rush had not
Speaker 1: up and play anyway it was, but they've trusted him
Speaker 1: in two games to do everything at He's thrown sixty
Speaker 1: three passes with so far in two games, and Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy just has let him roll with it. And this
Speaker 1: has been a great stretch for the Cowboys in this sense.
Speaker 1: And I can't believe there are people suggesting that Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush should keep the job. That's just what happens Um,
Speaker 1: you know, human beans. I'm not saying anyone in this
Speaker 1: human beings. This is the Cowboys, it's the brand, it's
Speaker 1: the way they're covered in our league. By the football
Speaker 1: You would respect is Greg but like some people, it's
Speaker 1: out there by the football. Cog sent the justin. Don't
Speaker 1: take out the pregnant pause like you did the other
Speaker 1: show that is supposed to be here. That's you know,
Speaker 1: that's rude, Dan, you know that should be behind clothes.
Speaker 1: Anyone who watched the Friday Fund Show lie gets it.
Speaker 1: It's like an incentive to drive people to YouTube. Um
Speaker 1: that that's not a real story. That's for Skip Bayless
Speaker 1: and Shannon Sharp to scream at each other about on
Speaker 1: Tuesday mornings. Dac is obviously going to have this job
Speaker 1: when he gets back, but they have somebody that they
Speaker 1: can trust behind him. On the other side of it,
Speaker 1: the Giants, who, um, I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: what's going on with the uh and they're it's so
Speaker 1: weird watching them on offense that again, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Again up at four thirty watching this game. Um, Daniel
Speaker 1: Jones was pressured twenty three times tonight last night, Yet today,
Speaker 1: when was it I don't know. According to ESPN, the
Speaker 1: most by a Giants QB since they began tracking pressures
Speaker 1: in two thousand nine, the most for any quarterback in
Speaker 1: the game. It was also sacked five times um and
Speaker 1: just beaten thrown to the turf. He's a tough dude,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. But this isn't gonna last
Speaker 1: much longer. He's going to get injured. And I just
Speaker 1: think that to Marcus Lawrence at three and a half
Speaker 1: sacks um um. I just think the Giants watching them
Speaker 1: on offense and Jones plays his role in this. It's
Speaker 1: so frenetic and kind of anxiety inducing for me because
Speaker 1: there's very little plays that just kind of play out
Speaker 1: in a standard way. It's usually Jones running for his life, scrambling.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna run? Is he gonna throw? Oh, he's
Speaker 1: heading towards the sideline. Okay, now the balls out, or
Speaker 1: he's getting pushed out of bounds in a violent way.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of a tough watch and it's I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's boarding. So I don't mind watching the
Speaker 1: Giants offens, but Jones and the beating he's taking, it's
Speaker 1: just not a workable situation. I think you've got Evan
Speaker 1: Neil got worked over last night bat three weeks right heat,
Speaker 1: so that the lion is the core issue. But then
Speaker 1: on top of it, you lose Sterling Shepard, who is
Speaker 1: coming off an achilles injury and he's gone with the
Speaker 1: knee wan deal. Robinson's not playing ka Darius Tony is
Speaker 1: not playing. Kenny Golladay is a an apparition at this
Speaker 1: point who had a terrible drop in this game. I mean,
Speaker 1: so you've got nothing around other than se Kwon j
Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley, who looks fantastic. But it leaves Jones sort
Speaker 1: of stranded on an island where his best operation, his
Speaker 1: best moves are when he takes off and runs, and
Speaker 1: it's just not a functional offense. But I do think
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones, like the numbers don't look like it.
Speaker 1: He played pretty well and he continues to do good things,
Speaker 1: but there's just there's just he's in a non functional
Speaker 1: I think. I don't think it's his fault, but his
Speaker 1: numbers are way worse this year than than any other
Speaker 1: year of his career. Lowest QBR by far, lowest yards
Speaker 1: per attempt by far, Isn't that just the result though,
Speaker 1: of what's going on around I just I totally agree
Speaker 1: with your the way you put it. And he also
Speaker 1: ran for seventy nine yeards. I think for the most
Speaker 1: part he's doing the best he can. But I think
Speaker 1: it it's sort of illuminates a difference between what Brian
Speaker 1: Dable is doing and what Mike McDaniel is doing. And
Speaker 1: I know the personnel is totally different, like I know it,
Speaker 1: but Dabel is doing a good job coaching around his
Speaker 1: offensive line and trying to help Daniel Jones out and
Speaker 1: trying to coach around the lack of talent. Uh. Whereas
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel and his system Kyle Shanni and system that
Speaker 1: McDaniel might be the best at running it improves the
Speaker 1: offensive line, coaches up the offensive line, doesn't coach around it.
Speaker 1: We heard a lot this offseason about the Giants really
Speaker 1: improved their offensive line personnel, it is not worked out.
Speaker 1: Whereas Mike McDaniel took what Miami had and his system
Speaker 1: is just so good that it makes the offensive line
Speaker 1: look much better and it helps the quarterback out. And yeah,
Speaker 1: you need something more out of a top you know,
Speaker 1: eight pick, like like Evan Neil see it in New
Speaker 1: York with both New York teams. You see it um
Speaker 1: with Cincinnati. What's going on there? You can name five
Speaker 1: other teams where the offensive line we heard about it
Speaker 1: all summer was better, and now you see the season
Speaker 1: start and it's like, no, things are not better. You
Speaker 1: mentioned Sterling Sharp Shepherd um mark that it's a bummer
Speaker 1: because he's like a really good guy everybody likes. And
Speaker 1: you could see it when he was on the cart
Speaker 1: and everybody was tapping him up um minutes before that
Speaker 1: play happened. He made a catch and I thought to myself, Oh,
Speaker 1: that's cool, Like he's part of this offense. He has
Speaker 1: a role. He's a guy that he's been kind of
Speaker 1: an a t N favorite over the years, but could
Speaker 1: never stay healthy. And maybe the sear he stays healthy
Speaker 1: and then kind of running at half speed, it looks
Speaker 1: like his knee just explodes in a non contact injury.
Speaker 1: And it's like one of those type of injuries. Right.
Speaker 1: You look at his age and his history and it
Speaker 1: was not the last time we saw we see Sterling Shepherd.
Speaker 1: You hope that's not the case, but it just seems
Speaker 1: like his body refuses UH to cooperate with him, So
Speaker 1: that was very disappointed, and he was only he's only
Speaker 1: on this roster, probably because of guaranteed money. They have
Speaker 1: the highest paid wide receiver room in the entire NFL,
Speaker 1: the Giants, and they're not playing Galada and now they're
Speaker 1: gonna they're not playing either, though they gave Slayton some
Speaker 1: money at some point they gave Shepherd some money like
Speaker 1: some of the lower thirds. You know, when they put
Speaker 1: all the skill position players out. I love how ESPN
Speaker 1: does that on amost every snap. We're just like, what
Speaker 1: is going on here? One of the groups was Hudson, Brita, Sills, James,
Speaker 1: and Shepherd that that's their skill position. Where on the
Speaker 1: other shot side one of the skill position groups during
Speaker 1: the day and I was like, wait, this is the
Speaker 1: Cowboys was Hendershot, Ferguson and McKeon. That sounds like a
Speaker 1: law firm, Like what is going on henders Like hender
Speaker 1: Shot is shown up with some big shot. Hendershot started
Speaker 1: uh post game like fracas, apparently because he was talking
Speaker 1: trash to the Giants. Hendershot like that. Joe Buck was
Speaker 1: not about that. He's like Joe Buck just wanted to
Speaker 1: go home, and there appears to be some type of issue,
Speaker 1: but thankfully well and the opponent in the fracas was
Speaker 1: like confused, but he's like, well, it's just some rookie
Speaker 1: tight end guy. I don't know what he was doing.
Speaker 1: Why is he talking? Smacked us? Part of it is
Speaker 1: they were playing the Cowboys defense too, who's given up
Speaker 1: three touchdowns in three weeks, tying uh their all time
Speaker 1: record here for the best. Did you hear Troy aikman
Speaker 1: um push back on the Micah Parsons Lawrence Taylor camp.
Speaker 1: He's like, I get it. I see what people are saying.
Speaker 1: That's a very Troy like I played with Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 1: He's like, we're not there yet. With Micah Parsons. Thank you, Troy,
Speaker 1: my friend. And he was very sick. He miss practice.
Speaker 1: All he did get a couple of quarterback kids. They moved,
Speaker 1: they played moving around again. By the way, that was
Speaker 1: another you know the talk about oh, let's just turn
Speaker 1: them loose from the edge, but apparently that is not
Speaker 1: the place. He's not the only guy. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: Or Armstrong had a good you know, Lawrence had a
Speaker 1: good game. We're getting we're getting we're like in a
Speaker 1: zombie fugus. We've been talking thirty minutes about this game.
Speaker 1: Now we've only been talking like eight minutes. It's been
Speaker 1: a totally normal question. This this statue that would be
Speaker 1: outside of SOFI when we perish? What are we? What
Speaker 1: our bodies doing in the statue? Why would they make
Speaker 1: the statue because we're because we're revered. We died. We
Speaker 1: died in an effort to raise the league the plane
Speaker 1: like like what happened? How did you know? You just
Speaker 1: want a hard Just so think of it this way.
Speaker 1: Jet Laggon did a podcast, Yeah, this is why you
Speaker 1: would not be the one sort of maybe a bunch
Speaker 1: of pills and went to sleep, and you know he
Speaker 1: acts like everybody else has to be on the same page.
Speaker 1: We're all natural, Greg, and you know we've been we've
Speaker 1: been grinding. And the statue would be Mark and I
Speaker 1: in a heroic way like holding onto each other, like
Speaker 1: holding each other up by baggage climb, baggage claim back
Speaker 1: in l a X like lifting and then that's where
Speaker 1: we we fade away as we're trying to lift our
Speaker 1: bags off the belt. And then that's what the statue is.
Speaker 1: Another option would be um Dan trying to but I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's he succeeded or not, but trying
Speaker 1: to get some sleep, all snuggled up in business class,
Speaker 1: you know when I went to and then I look
Speaker 1: over to the site marked and marked and lay out
Speaker 1: the bed. Almost everyone laid out the bed. No so
Speaker 1: on you know, not to get in the weeds. But
Speaker 1: like the there's a button apparently that you pressed so
Speaker 1: that the these two items turned into a bed. And
Speaker 1: I was actually like trying to get some work done inside.
Speaker 1: Was not tired. I can't sleep in general. And at
Speaker 1: one point it's stewardess and older women commercials, would you
Speaker 1: like me to come over and make your bed funerals?
Speaker 1: Like that's too embarrassing. I can't have this woman do
Speaker 1: this for me. So I just said I'm going no
Speaker 1: bed all night long. Did you guys notice or were
Speaker 1: you too far up in the business class section when
Speaker 1: somebody tried to hit a vape in the bathroom right
Speaker 1: in front of Jessica and I my seats, and the
Speaker 1: smoke alarm went off, lights flashing like sirens blaring in
Speaker 1: the middle of the flight, in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: I woke up and thought the plane was going down.
Speaker 1: They keep all that riff right, the sound proofdling. I
Speaker 1: can't believe you wait until now to tell us that
Speaker 1: that's scary. It was crazy. The most horrifying thing I've
Speaker 1: ever heard what happened to the to the vapor. So
Speaker 1: he stood outside the bath the when these two flight
Speaker 1: attendants came over, a man and woman. They were like,
Speaker 1: were you smoking in the bathroom? And he's like, uh,
Speaker 1: are you smoking in the loop. He's like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: and they're like, we need you to tell us right
Speaker 1: now the smoke alarms going off. I can smell it
Speaker 1: on your breath, and like it was crazy. And the
Speaker 1: flight attendant was like the captain will make a decision.
Speaker 1: He seemed to like go off, like, I mean, we're
Speaker 1: we're miles over the Atlantic Ocean, so what's the decision.
Speaker 1: Apparently there's like two thousand dollar fine or something. No.
Speaker 1: I know someone that happened to Uh. I do a
Speaker 1: podcast with him that he was detained coming off the
Speaker 1: plane because of that. At one Why would why would
Speaker 1: anyone do that? Why would you do that? St Yeah,
Speaker 1: I speaking at detained. We almost got detained when we
Speaker 1: when we landed. Well, before we get to that, I
Speaker 1: just want to button up what happened again? And uh
Speaker 1: in coach with the graver. Um graver also dumped a
Speaker 1: full glass of wine on Jessica's lap, and this poor
Speaker 1: girl um to walk all the way to the bathroom
Speaker 1: with a soaking lap with people, you know, whispering potentially.
Speaker 1: Oh no, that poor girl. What happened? She must have
Speaker 1: an issue right um? And then she had nothing to
Speaker 1: change into, so she had to put on her boyfriend's jeans.
Speaker 1: And that's how she arrived in London. The chic woman
Speaker 1: get one of the more fashion conscious places in the
Speaker 1: world here in London, and she's wearing men's wranglers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in a large green sweacha. Yeah, I want to see
Speaker 1: if I could sneak wranglers pass there, but little b
Speaker 1: r some br jeans. Yeah, that was an unfortunate situation
Speaker 1: that I regret a lot. But you guys seem to
Speaker 1: have amended fences since from what we've witnessed. Yes, she
Speaker 1: wasn't too mad, thankfully. But then yeah, we do get
Speaker 1: to them. We get to the airport, we go through,
Speaker 1: we pick up our bags, we have to go through
Speaker 1: customs and Uh, we had gotten a bunch of paperwork
Speaker 1: saying do not go to this well line over here,
Speaker 1: go to this other one. Real people people to the
Speaker 1: to the live show. You know, we're we're, um, you
Speaker 1: know I have to We're coming here for work, so
Speaker 1: we have to do some work visa stuff and um,
Speaker 1: we do as we're told. Yes, And immediately upon handing
Speaker 1: over the paperwork. Um, the employees at the Heathrow Airport
Speaker 1: were extremely offended that we would ever be in this line.
Speaker 1: And then a supervisor woman comes over and she goes,
Speaker 1: you're not supposed to be here, yeah, holding up the
Speaker 1: entire line Like whoa. We were browbeaten by her. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know this wasn't on purpose, lady, just just stand
Speaker 1: off to the side. And then they stuck it to
Speaker 1: the Yankees and he's They made a sit there for
Speaker 1: twelve minutes waiting. It was a rude awakening, people waiting
Speaker 1: right now for us to talk about football again. I
Speaker 1: think they're liking this. I think they're liking the injustices
Speaker 1: that have been rained down upon. Uh. Do you know
Speaker 1: like the Daniel Steel novels, um like Pete Fabio where
Speaker 1: the shirts open and and then maybe the there's a
Speaker 1: a beautiful woman like hanging off him, clinging off his
Speaker 1: ling and cheese, and she's very like a flowy but
Speaker 1: also showy lingerie top or something. That's how I picture
Speaker 1: our statue holding onto me. We're both dying, but I'm
Speaker 1: like trying to keep us alive. And what are you
Speaker 1: dying that? I'm still unclear about our effort effort, effort
Speaker 1: that we've done already on the like they stuff to
Speaker 1: list something on the well, but you don't need to.
Speaker 1: Hard work is like I've ever been listed as a
Speaker 1: cause of death. You're like, oh, what did old fatigue?
Speaker 1: So in the cold town where I grew up, there
Speaker 1: was there was a way to die of hard work,
Speaker 1: and that was you go down to the mine and
Speaker 1: you put in the double shift and you just never
Speaker 1: come up. You go down, you don't come up. And
Speaker 1: I lost a lot of friends dads like that. West
Speaker 1: Westchester's most livable town and it's Rockland County and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, when I think about the coal life, um,
Speaker 1: and then I think about the transition from business class
Speaker 1: to picking up the bags that they can bear a belt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are parallels. After the trip to London, staying in
Speaker 1: the luxury hotels. My favorite part of all this is
Speaker 1: like four minutes into the Cowboys Giants Dock, You're like,
Speaker 1: why are we talking about minutes? All right? Uh? To
Speaker 1: your leg by the way, and this this statue that's
Speaker 1: the I don't I don't understand that to pull yourself
Speaker 1: up to my impressive biceps so I can lift you.
Speaker 1: But I have been now ground down, and well we
Speaker 1: haven't talked about this much because we're work family. Now
Speaker 1: the three of us are tied at the hip. Well,
Speaker 1: i'd include Graver in that. When you say the three
Speaker 1: of us that you who are you eliminating? Oh? He doesn't.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the seat that turns into a bed,
Speaker 1: so he's not on the trip in a tangible way.
Speaker 1: Let's face it. We've had a lot of producers over
Speaker 1: the years, but for for you know, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: us three three. It's like I'm just saying, like you
Speaker 1: do you know, like if we were in a regular family,
Speaker 1: were at the age you want to start thinking about
Speaker 1: your will and who's leaving one to who and what's
Speaker 1: going to happen now if this happens, because we should
Speaker 1: get it in paper, if we leave it to our
Speaker 1: respective this does happen, Like you know that RSS feed
Speaker 1: for the podcast. There are a lot of subscribers on this,
Speaker 1: So would would you be okay, like if we still
Speaker 1: use the around the NFL name moving forward in your honor?
Speaker 1: I could guess you'll wait until you'll wait until like
Speaker 1: I'm literally under the ground and in the coffin, and
Speaker 1: then you'll like stomp the dirt to make sure it's
Speaker 1: not loose, and then you'll try to shift it over
Speaker 1: to the j r VP. That football. He's definitely keeping
Speaker 1: this football. I just wanted you to know, like if
Speaker 1: something happens to me and the statue over their dead
Speaker 1: bodies so they can't get up even if they wanted to.
Speaker 1: We're family, all right, Let's pause right here and take
Speaker 1: a break. We'll be right back. All right, here we go,
Speaker 1: Let's get to the news. Taylor. It's a great moment
Speaker 1: in Pro Bowl history, and we've got a little Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl coming up. Dancy, Yes, the audio of podcasting, that
Speaker 1: was what happened. That was the late Sean Taylor making
Speaker 1: a hit. That was the Sean Taylor blowing up the
Speaker 1: punter play the only play anyone's ever remembered from the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, which is no more right. Okay, that will
Speaker 1: be coming up later, but first let us get to
Speaker 1: the bolt Bolpocalypse, Bolt Apocalypse, Charges season going down, Flames,
Speaker 1: Charge Apocalypse, Bolt Lips, Bolt Lips Gross the Chargers was
Speaker 1: Angel Lips. The Chargers are in a bad spot. After
Speaker 1: winning their season opening, they've lost two straight games. They
Speaker 1: got blown out at home by the Jaguars on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and now they have a long list of injuries and
Speaker 1: key injuries. Um Joey Bosa's week to week is that
Speaker 1: a groin It's a significant groin injury which may play
Speaker 1: him place him on injured reserve, so it's like minimum
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa missing weeks. Potentially Jalen Guiton, who's an important
Speaker 1: piece of their offense wide receiver. He tore his a
Speaker 1: c l on Sunday. He's out for the year. But
Speaker 1: the big one here, bigger than anything, is left tackle
Speaker 1: Shawn Slater, who had a breakout rookie year, guy that's
Speaker 1: seen as a lynch pin for what they're doing. He
Speaker 1: suffered torn biceps UH, was torn bicep tendon UH in
Speaker 1: the loss of the Jaguars. He's going to be out
Speaker 1: for the season and Greggy we already know justin Herbert's
Speaker 1: physical situation, he's not a cent with that rib cartilage issue.
Speaker 1: Now you take away his most important blocker, and it
Speaker 1: just feels, like we talked about it on Sunday, ominous
Speaker 1: vibes around the Charges right now, it keeps getting worse
Speaker 1: right now, It's so depressing. I mean, Slater was a
Speaker 1: second team All Pro as a rookie, so he's the
Speaker 1: second best left tackle in the game. I think the
Speaker 1: real tape heads would have put him right there to
Speaker 1: right behind Trent Williams uh a week a year ago.
Speaker 1: I think there's a strong argument that he's the most valuable,
Speaker 1: you know, non quarterback in the league because of the
Speaker 1: drop off of what it means for the Chargers offense
Speaker 1: to what's next. Storm Norton came in and gave up
Speaker 1: eight pressures in twenty three snaps on Sunday. He's struggled.
Speaker 1: He was kind of the reason, uh that they lost
Speaker 1: that Week eighteen game. I believe he struggled. You have
Speaker 1: Trey Pipkins on one cries crushed him, right, Uh, you
Speaker 1: have Trey Pipkins on one side. They might try to
Speaker 1: move him over. They also have a rookie uh Slater.
Speaker 1: I mean, I forget what his name is this plane
Speaker 1: guard right now that maybe they could try out there,
Speaker 1: But either way, it's such a dramatic fall off from
Speaker 1: one of the very best players in the entire NFL.
Speaker 1: It's just it just kind of crushes their passing game.
Speaker 1: And they're already, at least right now, the worst running
Speaker 1: rushing game in the league, which has been a big
Speaker 1: surprise there thirty second and yards per carry before content
Speaker 1: thirty one and rushing d v o w A, and
Speaker 1: it gets worse without Slater. It does sound like Corey
Speaker 1: Lindsley the center, will be back relatively soon. He was
Speaker 1: questionable for week three, so that helps. Because when they
Speaker 1: didn't have him in there also along with the absence
Speaker 1: of Slater and you had Justin Herbert playing, you know,
Speaker 1: with in pain and a little more hesitant and than
Speaker 1: I thought that we've ever really ever seen him. That
Speaker 1: was not a good combination. And it's just like this
Speaker 1: was a team that I thought a f C title
Speaker 1: game type material and now the future is totally cloudy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the guy's name I was talking about was a rookie
Speaker 1: Jamari Sailor, who's a sixth round rookie who's looked okay
Speaker 1: at Garden, played left tackle in college. It's like, we've
Speaker 1: seen what Storm Norton is. It hasn't worked. They also
Speaker 1: have a left guard, Matt Feiler, who played really well
Speaker 1: last year, and it's been like kind of a speed bump.
Speaker 1: So you just mentioned it, Dan, like all these teams
Speaker 1: that the offensive line was supposed to be better and
Speaker 1: now the Chargers is way worse. UH. In other injury news,
Speaker 1: Patriots quarterback Mac Jones has a severe high ankle sprain. UM.
Speaker 1: The belief at this time is that he'll be able
Speaker 1: to avoid void surgery. This happened on the last play
Speaker 1: on Sunday UH in their loss UH to the Ravens.
Speaker 1: But he's gonna miss time. ESPNS Adam Schefter reports Jones
Speaker 1: is likely to miss multiple games. Uh. We saw how
Speaker 1: much painting was in Mark when the injury occurred. UM.
Speaker 1: This these are something as we know from following this
Speaker 1: this game for a long time. A high ankle sprain
Speaker 1: does not heal overnight. You could easily reaggravate it. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you don't get better until after the season. So now
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, not the most fleet of foot guy to
Speaker 1: start with, has a lower body injury that he has
Speaker 1: to work through, and he might not even be on
Speaker 1: the field for multiple weeks. Brian Hoyer the backup right,
Speaker 1: and Brian Hoyer, who has been on the Patriots roughly
Speaker 1: twelve times at this point UM and seems to simply
Speaker 1: be there to be able to use the cafeteria for meals,
Speaker 1: is now thrust into the starting role and so but
Speaker 1: Hoyer at least has some experience. But this offense already limited,
Speaker 1: certainly from a passing game angle. I think you're just
Speaker 1: gonna look at ramondre Stevenson, Damian Harris just being used
Speaker 1: a ton in the run game. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many weeks this will be, but they've got the Packers,
Speaker 1: the Lions, and the Browns up next to me. New
Speaker 1: England already was a fringe team UM struggling for identity
Speaker 1: on this side of the ball, and their further further
Speaker 1: lost right your whole thing last year, Dan, that the
Speaker 1: Patriots are just another team. I think really is hit
Speaker 1: home for me more than ever this year because they
Speaker 1: have that Cam Newton here and it was kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: Brady just left. Let's see what this is like in
Speaker 1: the world. Then last year, you know, at one point
Speaker 1: they did win eight straight games, and they had a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. They were an interesting team that had a
Speaker 1: very poor finished. I wouldn't say they were just another team.
Speaker 1: Now they truly are like thet game every week that
Speaker 1: we talked about, or they don't get mentioned on certain
Speaker 1: national shows, and this just buries them further. I know
Speaker 1: I might be a homer, but I really took a
Speaker 1: lot of positives out of the Week three game. I
Speaker 1: thought their offense looked quite good. They actually have the
Speaker 1: number one rushing d v o A in the entire
Speaker 1: NFL this season, so that's come along pretty quickly. And
Speaker 1: I thought Mac made a couple of big mistakes, but
Speaker 1: also you know, they were getting big plays and moving
Speaker 1: the ball, and now they're just like, what's what is
Speaker 1: the point of the Patriots right now? They are in
Speaker 1: a lot of trouble. I agree with you, but and
Speaker 1: that was the thing with their their offense. It's it's better,
Speaker 1: it is improving as we as the season uh begins
Speaker 1: to take shape. But Mac Jones can't throw three interceptions
Speaker 1: and some of them were very bad because they don't
Speaker 1: have enough fire power, especially against a team like Baltimore,
Speaker 1: which is why the Lock brothers said we have to
Speaker 1: lock that game up. Well, there was you know, we
Speaker 1: just operate in in deep worlds of logic and that's
Speaker 1: all we did there, justin you're just another team when
Speaker 1: you're ten and a half point underdogs this week. I
Speaker 1: can't remember the Patriots being underdogs by that much in
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah, And I did get I had the
Speaker 1: same thought like when I was watching this game, because
Speaker 1: it's at Foxborough and it wasn't by any stretch of
Speaker 1: a game that was high on the radar national And
Speaker 1: it's just like I did cross my mind. That building
Speaker 1: has seen so many of the biggest spotlight games of
Speaker 1: the last twenty years, and it feels different there now,
Speaker 1: and you know it is. It's not the worst thing.
Speaker 1: You gotta spread the wealth. That was part of the
Speaker 1: reason why me and so many other NFL fms were
Speaker 1: so sick of the Patriots. After a while, other fan
Speaker 1: bases should get to experience glory Pats fans hanging there.
Speaker 1: I'd assume those season ticket holders will continue to fill
Speaker 1: that building without any issue. Now that they're going through
Speaker 1: hard times. They're that loyal of a fan base. Greg,
Speaker 1: whoa you You're not gonna suddenly find something else to
Speaker 1: do on Sunday. I've been burying their crowd for years
Speaker 1: as uh, spoiled just in terms of they don't make
Speaker 1: a lot of noise. It's not allowed crowd and people
Speaker 1: are like, oh, it's cold, you can't like clap that
Speaker 1: much in the in the cold. It's like they figure
Speaker 1: it out in Buffalo. So you're right, it'll be a
Speaker 1: big testy. They're spoiled, all right, Another big test Tampa.
Speaker 1: The Tampa Bay Buccaneers are preparing for a huge Sunday
Speaker 1: night game against the Chiefs. Um and guess what they
Speaker 1: have to deal with? Weather stuff. Hurricane Ian set to
Speaker 1: move over Florida's west coast Wednesday into Thursday, so the
Speaker 1: Bucks are temporarily relocating to South Florida. The team announced
Speaker 1: Monday evening. Um they leave on Tuesday, spend a week
Speaker 1: practicing at the Dolphins training complex in Miami Gardens Gardens
Speaker 1: through the end of the week if necessary, and it's
Speaker 1: also in play that they might have to move the
Speaker 1: game itself. Um So Mark that is for a Bucks
Speaker 1: team that's just trying to grind through things right now,
Speaker 1: missing so many players on the field. This is just
Speaker 1: another layer of challenge, and we hope everyone in South
Speaker 1: Florida is safe and Hurricane Ian doesn't do anything right.
Speaker 1: Not the time they were, um hoping for a naughty
Speaker 1: little rainstorm to interrupt their scheduling. I do wonder how
Speaker 1: many times NFL network producers will turn this into a
Speaker 1: m something based around Rapidport when he shows up. We
Speaker 1: can they watch when it's like threatening human life. Little
Speaker 1: rainstorm is a little bit Yeah, I don't think I'll
Speaker 1: do it. It's a little bit Mark easy, dude, because
Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know yet. Hopefully here goes
Speaker 1: to this. This is how this plays out. I make
Speaker 1: my comment and then Greg comes in and absolutely very
Speaker 1: very nice, even handed. We care about the people. I
Speaker 1: care about the people too. I don't want I just
Speaker 1: leaving yoursel of open. This was because right into this
Speaker 1: as a former resident guys of New Orleans who had hurricanes, Um,
Speaker 1: it's scary time. It's a scary time. Hopefully it just
Speaker 1: it doesn't hit as bad as some of the uh
Speaker 1: most aggressive forecasts have for it. Because if it does,
Speaker 1: then the game will be on Sunday. I would like
Speaker 1: to see it. How about this? Can I correct one?
Speaker 1: I would like to see it. You know, sometimes it
Speaker 1: takes all the attention we think it's gonna hit land
Speaker 1: and cause chaos. How about just ebb back out to
Speaker 1: see and just affect the fish we're looking for. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm hoping will happen. Well, what we want
Speaker 1: is for it to be a quote, naughty little rainstorm
Speaker 1: but over the sea. Well, well, Mark is like a
Speaker 1: bunch of little bits of like, hey, hurricane Ian like
Speaker 1: break in the world with his breaking news a walk away.
Speaker 1: The same thing occurred to me yesterday when I saw
Speaker 1: this Mark. But okay, so just at least you know
Speaker 1: that we're cover from that standpoint because the NFL and
Speaker 1: and sports guys who think hurricanes named after people is
Speaker 1: a funny thing by its nature, which I've never been into.
Speaker 1: But like I could see it happening with Ian, They're
Speaker 1: not gonna do it because they don't want to potentially
Speaker 1: look insensitive. I understand that now. Anyway, in all seriousness,
Speaker 1: I hope everyone is gonna be safe in South Florida,
Speaker 1: and this thing does just affect the whales, all right,
Speaker 1: and other new North you'll get something North Florida because
Speaker 1: they're going to South Florida right to escape it, right,
Speaker 1: thank you. Other injuries, Myles Garrett was in a scary
Speaker 1: car accident um near the Brown's practice facility. His Porsche
Speaker 1: flipped multiple times. He was transported to the hospital non threatening,
Speaker 1: non life threatening injuries. But we don't have a lot
Speaker 1: more other than that right now, uh do we? Well,
Speaker 1: they did just report that that he was avoiding an
Speaker 1: animal on a wet road and overcorrected, according to Tom Pellisera.
Speaker 1: But more tests are being done. So that was reported
Speaker 1: as we were taping here. That's a sleepy little area
Speaker 1: out there. I wonder what what was going on here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's but that's we don't this kind of
Speaker 1: he got. He left the hospital the same day, which
Speaker 1: is good. But we don't know anything else. So we'll
Speaker 1: see if Myles Garrett plays this weekend or soon. But
Speaker 1: I hope he's okay. I covered the Little League Regional
Speaker 1: World Series Regional semifinals in Bingham to New York in
Speaker 1: two thousand three, and um funnily enough, um Ian Rapport
Speaker 1: was covering the Westchester teams up there. I was covering
Speaker 1: the Rockland teams and it was a big deal for me.
Speaker 1: I was I was going on a road trip, I
Speaker 1: was staying in a hotel. I was covering this event.
Speaker 1: It was you filing these you know, gamers and everything
Speaker 1: over the phone. It was a pretty big deal for
Speaker 1: a twenty three year old at the time. And I
Speaker 1: finished it after the West Nyak Little League team made
Speaker 1: it to like the I think maybe the semifinal round,
Speaker 1: and then was defeated filed. The story was Sunday night,
Speaker 1: probably like midnight. I get in the car and Binghamton too,
Speaker 1: um where I lived at the time in Pearl River,
Speaker 1: was I don't know, five hours away and uh so
Speaker 1: I'm driving through the middle of the night in this
Speaker 1: rental car and I'll never forget. And this is kind
Speaker 1: of before cell phones, or maybe I had a cell
Speaker 1: phone but probably didn't have any reception. The darkest, scariest
Speaker 1: highway in the middle of the night in upstate New
Speaker 1: York at eighty miles per hour, cutting through the darkness,
Speaker 1: and then I seen the headlights and it was too
Speaker 1: late to move. A deer, stupid, such a stupid deer
Speaker 1: just standing in the left lane staring at me, and
Speaker 1: I missed it by six inches. And I always think
Speaker 1: to myself, that could have been it. If I was
Speaker 1: in the other lane, that could have been a rap
Speaker 1: for the deer as well. But that's where we get
Speaker 1: that's where the deer and headlights term comes from, Danton,
Speaker 1: that exact situation that you encountered. But isn't that amazing
Speaker 1: that they still exist? That didn't that happen to you
Speaker 1: guys a lot growing up? Maybe maybe maybe Western Masses
Speaker 1: just a little more. Uh, it was more big everyone.
Speaker 1: Everybody someone, your friend's father who a car collided with
Speaker 1: a deer. My my sister in Lodge just hit a
Speaker 1: deer recently. Uh, you know it happened. Your story is special,
Speaker 1: like it is a special now. It is scary, but
Speaker 1: I still think about that deer's eyes move, move, deer.
Speaker 1: And we don't know if myld Garrett, Miles Garrett came
Speaker 1: in contact with a deer, but there was a passenger
Speaker 1: in the car, so you know, we hope they're both
Speaker 1: faring well all right, So we'll we'll stay on top
Speaker 1: of that story and see if it affects his availability.
Speaker 1: Forty niners coming off frustrating loss on Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 1: Also are dealing with Trent Williams out of the the lineup.
Speaker 1: He has a high ankle brand again there it is
Speaker 1: the dreaded high ankle sprain H. So we'll see if
Speaker 1: that causes him to be missing games or compromised in
Speaker 1: any way. It could be both. And DeAndre Swift, UH,
Speaker 1: the star running back of the lines, he could miss
Speaker 1: two weeks. What is he dealing with? He has an ankle? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the thing is he It's an ankle and I
Speaker 1: think yeah, I don't either way. Campbell essentially said, I
Speaker 1: think it would be good for him UH to rest
Speaker 1: up a couple of weeks and come back after the bite,
Speaker 1: which is usually a sign like we've made that decision
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna say exactly. And the Swift situation
Speaker 1: is that that's kind of part of the deal here
Speaker 1: with DeAndre Swift that he is. He struggles to stay healthy.
Speaker 1: He's a dynamic player, but they kind of have to
Speaker 1: manage him. So Jamal Williams, who stepped up and did
Speaker 1: some good things on UH and on Sunday UM, he
Speaker 1: will play the guitar. There's more injuries right now. Well,
Speaker 1: everyone is devastating. They also lost Tracy Walker, who's a
Speaker 1: team captain at safety for the season to an achilles.
Speaker 1: It's like every team is destroyed. Could be out a
Speaker 1: week or so. You could argue that he's been out
Speaker 1: m HM in that offense. And finally in the news,
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. I feel like we've done this story
Speaker 1: a hundred times, but now it's official. The Pro Bowl Games.
Speaker 1: That's that's the name of it now, the Pro Bowl Games,
Speaker 1: not the Pro Bowl Games. The Pro Bowl Games will
Speaker 1: reimagine the NFL's All Star contest as a series of
Speaker 1: different events, a f C versus NFC Flag football that
Speaker 1: will happen on February five in Las Vegas. Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: is among with coaching staff for an a f C
Speaker 1: versus NFC flag football game, a week long skills competition
Speaker 1: UH before the game, and fan of fan events and
Speaker 1: quote major musical performance that that's got train written all
Speaker 1: over it. Um anyway, so it was time. It was
Speaker 1: time years ago and in the NFL, in its infinite wisdom,
Speaker 1: has pulled the trigger on dumping the game. UM. I
Speaker 1: know we've talked about mark that kids like the game.
Speaker 1: UM I know your sons have dug into it a
Speaker 1: little bit or maybe kids. Um. I watched it once
Speaker 1: in the nineties and it was fine, but not a
Speaker 1: lot of people are into it. The players run into it,
Speaker 1: and you understand they're just protecting themselves, as they should.
Speaker 1: So let's give this another chance in a different way.
Speaker 1: Flag actually sounds like it'd be pretty watchable. I would
Speaker 1: watch a a f C versus NFC flag football game.
Speaker 1: Nobody was playing defense anyway, so right, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it was you know, they're trying to make like flag
Speaker 1: is a growing part of like football culture, not just
Speaker 1: you know, uh in this game of course, but as
Speaker 1: we'll play flag football. These guys can't hit anymore, like
Speaker 1: like the like the flag leagues that the NFL runs,
Speaker 1: and there's other ones are pretty intense like the like
Speaker 1: and are the x NFL players we work with often
Speaker 1: have their sons in those early flag then they move
Speaker 1: on to the tackle leagues. Pretty they take it very
Speaker 1: serious and it's intense. I took Coulton to uh, he
Speaker 1: chose not to not to do this, but we he
Speaker 1: We went to a combine, a flag football combine, and
Speaker 1: there were like six stations where it was like, you're
Speaker 1: doing everything they do at a combine, and I thought
Speaker 1: this will be a nice way to get into the sport.
Speaker 1: And we went there and it was so hyper intense,
Speaker 1: like southern California. I think he was like, I ain't
Speaker 1: into this right now. Yeah, and Walker is doing flag
Speaker 1: right now, and uh it is a little intense, like
Speaker 1: you gotta have your unit. Like someone cut their uniform
Speaker 1: and got chewed out by the coach for like cutting
Speaker 1: their uniform. This is the seven warner essentially, Um, I
Speaker 1: have a missive. I want to read this from Peter O'Reilly,
Speaker 1: NFL e v P of Club Business and League Events.
Speaker 1: We've received invaluable feedback from players, teams, and fans about
Speaker 1: reimagining the Pro Bowl, and as a result, we're thrilled
Speaker 1: to use the Pro Bowl games as a platform to
Speaker 1: spotlight flag football as an integral part of the sports future,
Speaker 1: while also introducing fun new forms of competition and entertainment.
Speaker 1: That's probably trained editorial note that will bring our players,
Speaker 1: their families and fans closer than ever before. Yeah, integral
Speaker 1: part of the sports future. Flag football. Watch out soccer,
Speaker 1: Like I'm watching kids soccer every weekend now not quite
Speaker 1: into it um not my favorite thing to watch. Um
Speaker 1: if Jack and Harry were like, I want to play
Speaker 1: flag football is like, that's roll. Peyton Manning is going
Speaker 1: to play an active role in the coaching, and his
Speaker 1: Omaha Productions is playing an integral role in bringing the
Speaker 1: pro games for like, I feel like Omaha Productions is
Speaker 1: everywhere like leave leave some for the rest of us there.
Speaker 1: Omaha has a new program connected to Omaha Production to
Speaker 1: keep coaching. If if his production company wasn't Umbrella Operation,
Speaker 1: it's working, it's working. That's what's happening in the news.
Speaker 1: One more break and then we'll finish up the show. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's hit it Thursday Night preview. We closed the door
Speaker 1: on week three. We opened the door on week four
Speaker 1: with another great matchup that I promise you will lead
Speaker 1: to Mark laying in a hotel room watching. At four
Speaker 1: in the morning, the Miami Dolphins travel to Cincinnati to
Speaker 1: face the Bengals there. I feel like it's a rite
Speaker 1: of passage on the Thursday night football schedule to have
Speaker 1: a home game in Cincinnati, uh in September or early October.
Speaker 1: But it hits a little different when you're the defending
Speaker 1: conference champions. And it hits even harder Greggy when the
Speaker 1: Dolphins are coming to town three and oh in the
Speaker 1: talk of the league after their upset of the Bills,
Speaker 1: and yet they're three and a half point underdogs, which
Speaker 1: highly disrespectful Dolphins fans are are noting the lack of
Speaker 1: national analysts picking them. It's fuelling them. It's fueling their bills.
Speaker 1: We talked about on Sunday, but the Bills are in
Speaker 1: fifty one more plays than them. That was so crath
Speaker 1: you know. I finally got a chance to watch that,
Speaker 1: and it just felt like sort of a a unique game.
Speaker 1: I did not think, to a tongue of Volota played
Speaker 1: poorly at all. In fact, I think he played quite well.
Speaker 1: Like that that throw he made to waddle down the field,
Speaker 1: to me is proving why he's not Jimmy Garoppolo. And
Speaker 1: I and I and I bring up that name just
Speaker 1: because it's the same system. And even coming into the draft,
Speaker 1: some people compared to it to a Jimmy Garoppolo of like,
Speaker 1: what he does well what he doesn't. Can he be
Speaker 1: a system quarterback? I've seen a little more playmaking from
Speaker 1: two of this year. The play that he got hurt
Speaker 1: on where he got concussed. Was that back injury? Right? Um?
Speaker 1: That like that was a play that was he made
Speaker 1: a nice play on that, Like Jimmy Garoppolo is not
Speaker 1: making that play that the some of the deep shots,
Speaker 1: I don't think Jimmy Garoppol is making that play. And
Speaker 1: yet there are other plays in this offense when he
Speaker 1: hits the back of his drop and he hits that
Speaker 1: crosser where it looks exactly like the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: and what Mike McDaniel was doing there. But everything just
Speaker 1: like makes a lot of sense. And they're really going
Speaker 1: to test the Bengals defense, who's played great this year
Speaker 1: but has also played three pretty lackluster offenses in a row.
Speaker 1: And this is a much bigger test for for their
Speaker 1: veteran group. I mean, on throws of twenty plus yards,
Speaker 1: two is nine of thirteen for three and three yards
Speaker 1: with three touchdowns. I think against the Ravens, he was
Speaker 1: asked to answer the call over and over and he
Speaker 1: kept doing it. And last week he was has to
Speaker 1: make that one big throw and he did it. And
Speaker 1: he's just so good at like when they when he's
Speaker 1: holding the ball at the mesh point and pulling it
Speaker 1: back and then making the quick throws. First of all,
Speaker 1: he can throw different passes than right handers can. Not
Speaker 1: like it's better or worse, but it's different. He's so
Speaker 1: good at doing that so quickly, Like that's a real skill.
Speaker 1: He's one of the best in the league at doing
Speaker 1: He's to his benefit this offense with this new offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator or head coach, that it plays to his strength.
Speaker 1: It's not a it's not a justin Herbert offense where
Speaker 1: you're dropping back back and throwing eight yard rainbow strikes.
Speaker 1: It's get the ball to these guys and let them
Speaker 1: do their business. Which is not to say he's throwing
Speaker 1: at three yards of the line of scrimmage. Like that's
Speaker 1: a perfect example. The Wattle play that was a that
Speaker 1: was a strike down the middle that he took nearly
Speaker 1: to the house. That really changed that game. And by
Speaker 1: the way, the NFL p A is initiating an investigation
Speaker 1: into the handling of to his concussion evaluation during Sunday's game.
Speaker 1: To A said after the game that that the footage
Speaker 1: where he's like like wiggling around and it was looking
Speaker 1: disturbing and it looked concussionist concussion, Like uh, was a
Speaker 1: back injury that he basically had spasms essentially that it
Speaker 1: acted up. So I I would take him at his word,
Speaker 1: but I wonder if he's fully healthy. Jail and Waddle
Speaker 1: as a groin injury, didn't practice watch that and think
Speaker 1: that that looks like a back issue. I'm to us
Speaker 1: said that's what it was, So I'm not diagnosed because
Speaker 1: they're trying not to get popeye the league for evading
Speaker 1: the concussion program. We'll let that play out. I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you what the player said. But like Tehran Armstead
Speaker 1: is hurt, Ivian Howard is banged up there there. I
Speaker 1: think the reason the spread is the way it is
Speaker 1: is because there are the laundry list of injuries and
Speaker 1: it's like sixteen seventy players long. Most of them will
Speaker 1: probably play nineties snaps two for the defense, so the
Speaker 1: offense didn't play much on Sunday, they'll be fresh. But
Speaker 1: I always do keep an eye on that on a
Speaker 1: Thursday night game, that there are four or five best
Speaker 1: defensive acts, especially played about nineties snaps, which is an
Speaker 1: outrageously high number, and some of the defensive lineman played seventy.
Speaker 1: But one of the reasons they're they're good Danny Is.
Speaker 1: Their defense is pretty deep. They like that Trey Flowers signing.
Speaker 1: He's starting to make some plays. Mel Ingram is somehow
Speaker 1: a great signing for like that seventh straight year. I
Speaker 1: don't know why people yeah that, um, that was a
Speaker 1: good one. You've become a reply guy lately. You have
Speaker 1: your massive, hyperbolic tweets and it's just like, why does
Speaker 1: no one sign Melvin him? He just shows up and
Speaker 1: he's been awesome everywhere. It's the same thing in baseball,
Speaker 1: the guys that don't use the batting gloves. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he doesn't look quite as dynamic. And I think Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon or Melvin Ingram is one of those rare guys
Speaker 1: that doesn't wear any gloves. He's bare handed on both hands,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, oh, he's like a throwback. He
Speaker 1: looks like a nineteen eighties middle line. Hendrickson is another
Speaker 1: one of those guys, Trey Hendrickson who had two and
Speaker 1: a sacks last week for the Bengals and did get paid.
Speaker 1: So it's unfair, but they're like they are deep. This
Speaker 1: is where the Bengals offensive line like very tested in
Speaker 1: Justin Graver not being in business class with us. That's
Speaker 1: not fair. You want to talk about injustices? Justin what
Speaker 1: business class? What? What was that? Yes? Here's something? Did you?
Speaker 1: Were you looking for this? I thought initially you were?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I thought you initially? Well,
Speaker 1: what is happening with what's happening with you? Are you acting?
Speaker 1: You not remember that we were on an airplane together
Speaker 1: roughly hours ago. Oh sorry, I thought you were referring
Speaker 1: to a class a few business Yeah, I'm a little tired. Alright,
Speaker 1: back to the show. Good contributory, Grave Digger. No, I
Speaker 1: actually was put in business class that I was gonna
Speaker 1: say you you actually did something very gallant, which was
Speaker 1: to be sent back so that I could spill wine
Speaker 1: over really you you so I could spill wine and
Speaker 1: another man's wife that that was. That's a bald move.
Speaker 1: That's a bald move. You could have just given her
Speaker 1: the sears kind of. She didn't want to sit apart,
Speaker 1: so she really liked you man. That's good. It's nice
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Speaker 1: where were we go? Ahead? Mark Greg, you were making
Speaker 1: a pin like woz for the bank right now? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I don't have any major things. Sad leads
Speaker 1: the NFL in like negative e p a per play.
Speaker 1: According to next Gent stats, He's taken like a breakout
Speaker 1: year a year ago and looks even better. And that
Speaker 1: means you look to the other side and who's on
Speaker 1: the other side. Eli Apple and who talked crazy trash
Speaker 1: on Tyreek Hill after the Bengals beat the Chiefs in
Speaker 1: the a f C Championship, Eli Apple on Twitter. I
Speaker 1: forgot what he called them. Uh. I think he might
Speaker 1: have called him the B words something something like that.
Speaker 1: But Tyree Hill threw it out there after Sunday night
Speaker 1: that he's he's hunting for Eli. He's hunting for Elis.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get ahead of this because right now
Speaker 1: it is, I don't know, like the middle of the
Speaker 1: night in Los Angeles. Editors are so the power rankings.
Speaker 1: You're trying to check the sink on these podcast, boss.
Speaker 1: The NFL Power rankings have not been edited and published yet,
Speaker 1: but it is Dolphins at number three, behind the Bills,
Speaker 1: who they defeated, and I know Dolphins fans are gonna
Speaker 1: try to kill me for that. Um, it is not
Speaker 1: taking away from what they've done to start the season
Speaker 1: there in the top three. Who would have ever thought
Speaker 1: that as we close out September. But yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: I do want to see a little bit more. A
Speaker 1: road win on Thursday night, UM against Cincinnati, right after
Speaker 1: Cincinnati got his mojo back thanks to my jets. UM,
Speaker 1: that is another great little test or the Dolphins to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: not this isn't just a fast start. We're the real deal.
Speaker 1: And I know is great and spectacular and out of
Speaker 1: this world. They were on offense in Week two. It's
Speaker 1: been sandwich by two pedestrian off offensive days to me.
Speaker 1: So I still want to see more of the Dolphins
Speaker 1: before I'm saying yeah, this is a real deal. This
Speaker 1: is there that team you always wonder, what's the team
Speaker 1: that comes out of the weeds, um and becomes a superpower?
Speaker 1: Is that the Dolphins. Not all the way there yet.
Speaker 1: But obviously you can't take away what they've done. I
Speaker 1: have no problem with you keeping Buffalo in the top
Speaker 1: spot just based on who they are. I don't think well,
Speaker 1: just that that Miami didn't scotch them. I don't think
Speaker 1: one result should do that. That said, I think the
Speaker 1: Dolphins are legitimate, and it's for me, it's not just
Speaker 1: the rights. Their defense. Their defense is why they won
Speaker 1: that Bills game. And they're really well coached on offense,
Speaker 1: and a lot of the issues the two I had before,
Speaker 1: which was offensive line, lack of weapons, lack of offensive coaching.
Speaker 1: He had two offensive coordinators with a third guy in
Speaker 1: his head in his ear on the headset. That's all
Speaker 1: been replaced by Mike McDaniel in a really well organized attack.
Speaker 1: So I don't think they're going away at all. I
Speaker 1: think what we've seen is who they are right. They're
Speaker 1: running game in Miami doesn't get much attention, but it's
Speaker 1: been quietly effective. And I think that's a difference between
Speaker 1: these two teams is that you can run, and they've
Speaker 1: been really effective in the red zone. And even in
Speaker 1: that Jets game, I mean, the Bengals made some some
Speaker 1: great plays. Uh. I didn't feel like their offensive line
Speaker 1: was still that clean. Uh. And I still think they're
Speaker 1: like Howney on Burrow to beat these two shell coverages
Speaker 1: that are making him, you know, thinking dunked down the field.
Speaker 1: The ground game is which was a strength last year
Speaker 1: is totally vanished, even to the point when Mixing lost
Speaker 1: some carries against the Jets, you immediately saw they moved
Speaker 1: the ball better on the ground in the second half.
Speaker 1: Now the Jets were maybe a little ground down on
Speaker 1: defense by that point, but J. P. Ryan, I think
Speaker 1: that the um running game needs to get going because
Speaker 1: that allows Burrow to you know, be set up better
Speaker 1: in the passing game. But that was a positive start
Speaker 1: for their offense. Let's see if they can build on it.
Speaker 1: By the way, Eli Apple uh offered Tyreek Hill ticket
Speaker 1: free tickets to the Super Bowl last year via social
Speaker 1: media after after he helped shut down Tyreko. Remember that
Speaker 1: play at the end of the first half that kind
Speaker 1: of to me was the biggest play in the a
Speaker 1: f C Championship when when Eli Apple tackled Tyreek Hill,
Speaker 1: he did not call him the B word that you
Speaker 1: think the B word would be. He calls him a baby.
Speaker 1: So that's my fault. But Tyreek basically when you call
Speaker 1: somebody the other B word, you call them a babe
Speaker 1: that you're calling them. And then Tyreek Hill, immediately after
Speaker 1: Sunday already was thinking about it and telling Eli Apple
Speaker 1: I own you, I own you can't wait. Tell Annie
Speaker 1: Apple chimes in on this, Miami. That was that was
Speaker 1: a year in our lives that Annie Apple Um and
Speaker 1: Eli Apple were like a whole story, right, that was
Speaker 1: a thing. That was a thing. Show us something, Bengals,
Speaker 1: show us something. We don't want you to be a
Speaker 1: one in three, a f C champion, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: defending champion here. This is a big there's a big
Speaker 1: spot for them. This would be an acceptable loss for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins. The Bengals need to win this. Let's see
Speaker 1: other other competing power rankings are popping up now. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to see if this is for your own time.
Speaker 1: We are USA today like taping still the Eagles one,
Speaker 1: Dolphins two, Bills three. This is for your own personal
Speaker 1: mental grudge hour in your hotel room, not now, thank you,
Speaker 1: Paul rudd Um. All right, that was the t n
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