Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. It's ready for their bye.
Speaker 1: We from the Chris Wesley podcast studio. It's Around the NFL.
Speaker 1: The new voice of Around the NFL. Jason Smof could
Speaker 1: not be more spot on. Just got off of you know,
Speaker 1: fourteen hour flight from London, yet we soldier on. Dan
Speaker 1: hansis Mark Sessler and that wonderful voice you heard listen,
Speaker 1: You're wonderful husband, John Gonzalez. My name is Colleen Wolf. Everyone.
Speaker 1: He's been taking your polaroid around Europa. Photos galore with
Speaker 1: the polaroid. So you're kind of you did coming to
Speaker 1: the present exhausted from all this traveling. I've been doing
Speaker 1: stuff in l A and in London. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of work. Um yeah, So Colleen Wolves here, Marks here,
Speaker 1: Greg handled a Monday night football recap rams forts with
Speaker 1: j B Long our buddy, so you could check that
Speaker 1: out for a deep dive on the final game of
Speaker 1: week four. I am I have to say, and this
Speaker 1: probably will not come as a surprise two people, given
Speaker 1: the narratives in place on this particular program. I'm happy
Speaker 1: to be back in America. I U it was time
Speaker 1: to come home. Old Juicer put in the seven Days
Speaker 1: and I had an incredible time uh in England, meeting
Speaker 1: all our wonderful listeners and getting to experience these career
Speaker 1: highlights really together, Mark, you and I and with Greg
Speaker 1: and with Grave, Digger and Jessica. But it was time
Speaker 1: to return to the stars and stripes, and I'm feeling good.
Speaker 1: I am with you on that front. I we we
Speaker 1: did the best we could. I thought we did um
Speaker 1: some great shows, uh, most of them. Uh. And my
Speaker 1: feeling was that I was becoming more Are you that
Speaker 1: the show in which we were recording from the hotel
Speaker 1: respective the hotel rooms at three thirty in the morning
Speaker 1: maybe not our best word? Yeah, I just I if
Speaker 1: I could remember any of it, I could comment on it.
Speaker 1: We just did a power rankings podcast, Colleen and I,
Speaker 1: which you could check out wherever you get your podcasts.
Speaker 1: And as Colleen was teeing me up to talk different teams,
Speaker 1: I'm like glancing down at the power rankings that are
Speaker 1: live on NFL dot com. But I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: don't agree with that. Oh that's a good point. I'm like,
Speaker 1: now I will talk about this. I have no memory
Speaker 1: of writing the entirety power rankings on the Transcontinental flight,
Speaker 1: but here I watched you write some of it, so
Speaker 1: I know that you did. I saw you just like
Speaker 1: staring at me from the side of the plane. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a lot of kind of rather
Speaker 1: celebrity like people on our on our flight. Don't stop
Speaker 1: thinking about tomorrow, Lindsay Buckingham. Do you want to hear
Speaker 1: something crazy about chilling with Lindsey Buckingham and Fleetwood Mac
Speaker 1: for twelve hours or whatever? It turned out? Yesterday was
Speaker 1: his birthday, right, I don't know if we were chilling
Speaker 1: with him. I don't know if he ad And then
Speaker 1: the dude from Scrubs McGinley, he was on the plane too, yes,
Speaker 1: sitting right next to me, Like it's the kind of
Speaker 1: sharing the conversation with McGinley. I did not want to.
Speaker 1: I don't want to bug him, but I also was like,
Speaker 1: it seems like a nice guy. He seemed nice, but
Speaker 1: you know, it's a kind of thing way the way
Speaker 1: those seats were arranged, like his hair was like an
Speaker 1: inch from my face, Like, so, I you know, it
Speaker 1: was like, how do I even started coming in a
Speaker 1: halt the whole time? So maybe you should tell a
Speaker 1: story that makes sense. Well, I mean, you could see
Speaker 1: the hair coming out from under the hat at the
Speaker 1: bottom of the hair that was coming off from underneath
Speaker 1: the cap. He has actually actually did take it off
Speaker 1: for a while and he's got quite um nice flowing
Speaker 1: white hair. Well what great salt and pepper whitish hair.
Speaker 1: I think there's some red to it too. I think
Speaker 1: he's a bit of a ginger. So again that were
Speaker 1: you on the plane with me. That was less than
Speaker 1: the case yesterday in the terms of ginger and a Yeah,
Speaker 1: that is the other breaking news here. I got some
Speaker 1: developing news. Mark Sessler got up, slept three hours, and
Speaker 1: then drove into the office at three in the morning.
Speaker 1: And you understand this is unusual behavior by an eccentric.
Speaker 1: Well so, I mean it wasn't just to hang around
Speaker 1: the office. It was I'm a professional and had an
Speaker 1: article to write and UH needed to get in here
Speaker 1: and get down to business. Sounds amazing that you've been here.
Speaker 1: So you're now almost impossibly almost ten hours into a
Speaker 1: work day by choice basically right now. I don't know
Speaker 1: if i'd say by choice by professional choice, where it's
Speaker 1: like I I like to continue to fulfill my job
Speaker 1: responsibilities so that I don't get essentially acts from the company.
Speaker 1: He really wanted to be on time after what happened
Speaker 1: in London, right, Who was that unnecessary? Um? You did
Speaker 1: have some struggles with punctuality for some for me, to
Speaker 1: be honest, so I thought, I hope we can view
Speaker 1: that as a typical You don't see me writing you
Speaker 1: on it, But the producer seems to no. I mean
Speaker 1: it's he found a way to He saved that till
Speaker 1: now write a dagger put right through your chest when
Speaker 1: we got back to America. All right, let's get into
Speaker 1: things coming up today the Thursday night football preview. Can
Speaker 1: you believe it? Week five will kick off in just
Speaker 1: a couple of days with a Indianapolis Colts against Denver
Speaker 1: Brown Broncos matchup at Mile High Stadium. Is that all correct?
Speaker 1: It seems like it checks out, and uh, we will
Speaker 1: also check in you guys, remember do you remember back
Speaker 1: in August? Connie, thank you? Justin he's sharp today. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's gonna on with this guy. He got
Speaker 1: he got plenty of sleeping right yeah. Um. On July,
Speaker 1: we each offered some predictions about something in the NFL
Speaker 1: that will happen or be a reality come October four,
Speaker 1: the day after Lindsay Buckingham's seventy third birthday, and guess
Speaker 1: what that is now that day, So we will now
Speaker 1: revisit those fearless predictions from July ninth. Now I'm seeing
Speaker 1: a graphic that says the twenty night Justin came in hard.
Speaker 1: I'll have to double check check our sources on that one. Uh, somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody somewhere created a major error that is now part
Speaker 1: of that. We have it. There's some dynamic in this
Speaker 1: part of the room. On the other side of the glass,
Speaker 1: there's a Drew Christians in versus Justin graver dynamic. What
Speaker 1: was the correct date for the fear And if we
Speaker 1: know Justin, he'll just take true if possible and whip
Speaker 1: him under a bus from Drew. And who's Drew? Drew
Speaker 1: is our video producer because guess what you could catch
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Speaker 1: According to Apple Podcast, that show came out on but
Speaker 1: who knows where, Mike, maybe there was a time. And
Speaker 1: then you go to the NFL channel on the app
Speaker 1: and you can find the show. If you're watching this
Speaker 1: on the stream, they've correctly just changed the the subtitle
Speaker 1: the graphic to July. So I think we've solved that
Speaker 1: for now. Nobody's wrong anymore. And I think you can
Speaker 1: get this on YouTube as well, right, yes, yes, go
Speaker 1: find the show the video show if you care, and
Speaker 1: see Mark and I super jet lagged and Connie decked
Speaker 1: out in her Philadelphia Phillies gears, the Fighting Phil's Clinch,
Speaker 1: a playoff spot red October to the Dance You Go.
Speaker 1: I wish Charlie Manuel was still all right. So, yes,
Speaker 1: we got ten f preview. We're gonna check in in
Speaker 1: a fearless predictions. Um, we are going to do all that.
Speaker 1: Before before we do that, let's hit some news. You
Speaker 1: can watch this NFL season like a fan, or you
Speaker 1: can prep like a scout if you listen to the
Speaker 1: award winning Moved the Sticks podcast. Now, as we discussed
Speaker 1: recently on a Friday Fun Show, I have been known
Speaker 1: to occasionally check in on episodes just to see how
Speaker 1: certain things came out and just out of curiosity, uh,
Speaker 1: and just interest in our program. And because of that,
Speaker 1: I am aware of many of the ads that air
Speaker 1: ahead of or during our episodes. Okay, can you play
Speaker 1: that again? So this is the one that Moved the Sticks,
Speaker 1: which is one of our new podcasts that we've launched
Speaker 1: apparently alongside, uh, this flagship program. Uh, let's hear that again.
Speaker 1: You can watch this NFL season like a fan, or
Speaker 1: you can prep like a Scout if you listen to
Speaker 1: the award winning Moved the Sticks podcast. You could listen
Speaker 1: like a fan, which is being sort of condescending to
Speaker 1: listen to the Scouts or engage in a massive vanity
Speaker 1: project but don't be paid for it. And I'm just
Speaker 1: curious if anybody else found that to be a subtle
Speaker 1: shot at the Kingmakers over at a t N. Just
Speaker 1: throwing it out there, Colleen, I know, I believe this
Speaker 1: is the floor. Is you ares here? My throat is
Speaker 1: closing up and I won't be able to answer. Can
Speaker 1: we get water? So she'll be potentially her life will
Speaker 1: be saved. Um. So I just you know, there is
Speaker 1: what can I hear one more part of that? By
Speaker 1: the way, you'll learn a talk about the NFL, and
Speaker 1: I promise will make it fun along the way. So
Speaker 1: what happens if you break a promise of the podcast?
Speaker 1: If are there any repercussions? I think your credibility, Like
Speaker 1: you're the way that we view you, right, not you
Speaker 1: being in this case being Daniel Jeremiah and the rest
Speaker 1: of the people on that show. How are they held accountable?
Speaker 1: It's like kids, kids gather around, we have fun news
Speaker 1: for the whole family. Oh, Disneyland, No, the sticks is available.
Speaker 1: Are all platforms. This feels oddly personal because it is
Speaker 1: vengeance is mine? Hey, Dan, who hosted the power ranking
Speaker 1: show while you were in London? I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't care. Who was it, Colleen Well I hosted with
Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah. Now we're following some bread crumbs vengeance. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get into it. Here we go. I bet he
Speaker 1: did a great job. Brown knows it was good. Whatever,
Speaker 1: it's good. It was good, up, good fun. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: bet he was great. Mark pick a side. It just did.
Speaker 1: Apparently I'm out of here. Let's get to the news.
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett Stunner. He is going to be the starter
Speaker 1: for the Pittsburgh Pirates. We got this is the best
Speaker 1: show ever. Kenny pick it will be the starter for
Speaker 1: the base all team that plays in Pittsburgh, the Pirates.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I don't follow the Pirates closely.
Speaker 1: I know it's the end of the season, but I
Speaker 1: know he'll be starting for the Pittsburgh Steelers UH this weekend.
Speaker 1: Here's what head coach Mike Tomlin had to say about
Speaker 1: the move. I don't want to dump the responsibility of
Speaker 1: what transpired. It at Mitch's feet. That's not fair to him.
Speaker 1: He's played better than that description, but we have it.
Speaker 1: And so in an effort to be better, in an
Speaker 1: effort to score more points, in an effort to move
Speaker 1: the ball more fluidly, we decided to go to Kenny
Speaker 1: and in the hopes that he would provide a spark
Speaker 1: for us. UM. You know, we felt that um um,
Speaker 1: not only in terms of our ability to move the ball,
Speaker 1: but just in terms of energy and so hopefully, um,
Speaker 1: that's a catalyst for us as we try to move
Speaker 1: forward and change the outcome of some of these games. Man, yes,
Speaker 1: there it is. Mike Tomlin, UH said, I don't want
Speaker 1: to dump the responsibility of what transpired at Mitch's feet,
Speaker 1: but ultimately mark for everyone in these Steelers and Pirates organization,
Speaker 1: it just felt like it was the right time because
Speaker 1: it's not all Mitch's fault that the offense wasn't working
Speaker 1: with him at the controls, But we kind of knew
Speaker 1: what the ceiling was here. It was the next straining
Speaker 1: type of ceiling and pick it gives you a chance
Speaker 1: not only to add some juice to the proceedings on offense,
Speaker 1: but also to develop a young quarterback that you see
Speaker 1: as a future of the offense. Yeah. I think that
Speaker 1: the what was happening in Pittsburgh a little bit too,
Speaker 1: And it wasn't all on Mr Robisky, who didn't play
Speaker 1: terribly if we kind of agree that we know what
Speaker 1: Mr Robinsky was coming into this exactly. But I think
Speaker 1: that the there was a growing war cry from the
Speaker 1: other skill position players at wide receiver and tight end saying, look,
Speaker 1: we're just doing what they tell us to do. Uh,
Speaker 1: we can only get open the way that we're allowed
Speaker 1: to in this offense. And it was a growing critique
Speaker 1: of Matt Canada's scheme and Strabisky's sort of unwillingness. I
Speaker 1: think too, maybe be more of a gun slinger, which
Speaker 1: I think could get that with Kenny Pickett. You know,
Speaker 1: I know through three interceptions. One of them was just
Speaker 1: a deep shot that was sort of ended the game material,
Speaker 1: but one of them, I thought there was a bit
Speaker 1: of a silver lining to it because it was him
Speaker 1: choosing to target Chase Claypool deep down the field turned
Speaker 1: into a misfire that landed in the hands of a
Speaker 1: Jets defender, but it was Kenny Pickett. After the game,
Speaker 1: we basically said, if I'm going to tell the other
Speaker 1: players on this team, I'm gonna trust you. If I
Speaker 1: see you downfield, I'm going to take the shot. And
Speaker 1: I think that's really all these guys were asking for.
Speaker 1: Will it work, I don't know, but I thought he
Speaker 1: he brought life to the offense and this team needed
Speaker 1: a change because the Mitch thing just ran its course.
Speaker 1: Will we see him again? There's no guarantee that Picket's
Speaker 1: going to pick this up right away, but he also
Speaker 1: forcefully and confidantly said, I know this playbook, I'm completely
Speaker 1: ready to do this. So it was time. Yeah. Tomlin
Speaker 1: said that the offense needed a spark, and Kenny Pickett
Speaker 1: brought them to life, but then also put them to
Speaker 1: death with the interceptions. He had the two rushing touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but he only had three in completions. All three of
Speaker 1: those were three interceptions and the one was really ultimately
Speaker 1: like the turning point in the game. So the fact
Speaker 1: that their next four games they're pretty pretty rough. They
Speaker 1: faced the Bills, the Bucks, the Dolphins, and then the Eagles. Um,
Speaker 1: So yeah, that's where you can get on Tomlin a
Speaker 1: little bit if you want. And it's all in the
Speaker 1: past now. It is what it is. It's not going
Speaker 1: to make a big difference at the end. But they
Speaker 1: had a mini bye week after the Thursday night game
Speaker 1: against Cleveland, and then they got the ten days to
Speaker 1: get ready for the Jets, who are middling at best
Speaker 1: team right now. And if you wanted to put Kenny
Speaker 1: Peckett in, just do it at that point and then
Speaker 1: give him a long runway to his first start against
Speaker 1: the Jets, and then he'll have his feet wet for
Speaker 1: the schedule and it tightens up instead. I think Tomlin
Speaker 1: got caught in between a little bit. It was a
Speaker 1: half measure. He's like he wanted to, he wasn't fully ready,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, Tomlin after years and years and years
Speaker 1: with Ben Roethlisberger wasn't ready to start over with a
Speaker 1: rookie and everything that goes with that, as we saw
Speaker 1: in the second half with and overs. But it got
Speaker 1: to a point where I think he Tomlin was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta make this move into your point. Mr Sessler,
Speaker 1: in that debut against the Jets pick at average nine
Speaker 1: point two yards per attempt and thirteen point two air
Speaker 1: yards per attempt, and Trabiski season average UH in three
Speaker 1: and a half games was five point six per attempt
Speaker 1: and nine point nine area. So he's airing it out,
Speaker 1: which is good because they have talented players, especially a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. And I like it about the schedule, but
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be Pittsburgh's starting quarterback, you're gonna get
Speaker 1: these games no matter what. You can't really protect him,
Speaker 1: and their schedule is like Bills, Bucks, Dolphins, Eagles. Then
Speaker 1: you're by like, are we waiting a month to protect
Speaker 1: him because we have missed. That was the original plan,
Speaker 1: like can we get to and then it became an
Speaker 1: unsustainable thing. But I think going back to what you're saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was gonna face these opponents that's part of life
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But the idea of getting his feet wet. First,
Speaker 1: he got one half with the Jets and now he
Speaker 1: gets a week of practice and you know, good luck
Speaker 1: to him. Well, I have no affiliation with an f
Speaker 1: C North. Maybe none of us do. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but some will be rooting against Kenny Pickt. I kind
Speaker 1: of thought that I was surprised that it went down
Speaker 1: like that with Tomlin because I think we talked about
Speaker 1: it on the show that Tomlin is not a reactionary coach,
Speaker 1: that he's someone that I view as having more patients
Speaker 1: and maybe a little bit more leeway to have patients
Speaker 1: because he's been there for so long because he always
Speaker 1: has a winning record. But also he's never been in
Speaker 1: this spot because of Ben Roethlisberger. So I wasn't sure how,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it was I think it was interesting. I
Speaker 1: was kind of surprised, all right. And one more note
Speaker 1: about this the um Mitch Drobinsky is still team captain
Speaker 1: and Mike Tomlin confirmed that he'll be going out for
Speaker 1: the coin flip on Sunday. That seems kind of a
Speaker 1: rough rough, but that's just the way it is in
Speaker 1: the NFL. A bigger slap in the face to suddenly
Speaker 1: also just removed. Also Toppy Toffy next level. In other news,
Speaker 1: we all know what's going on with Cooper Rush in
Speaker 1: the Dallas how Boys. Dak Prescott broke his thumb in
Speaker 1: Week one, got surgery, and the thought was Dallas would
Speaker 1: go down well. Instead, Cooper Rush has stepped in and
Speaker 1: played really well, and the Dallas defense has been among
Speaker 1: the league's very best, and they've won three straight games.
Speaker 1: And now it's gone from reports of he'll be back
Speaker 1: by week four, week five to now Jared Jones going
Speaker 1: on Dallas local radio and saying, well, you know, Dak,
Speaker 1: he can't quite you see where I'm going with this.
Speaker 1: He can't quite grip the ball yet. Here's some more
Speaker 1: from Jari, because it's just fun to hear Jared talk
Speaker 1: about football in life. Considering the injury, considering the location
Speaker 1: of the injury, I don't know that you can make
Speaker 1: any more progress. And there are some things here about
Speaker 1: healing that again, how often say only the man upstairs
Speaker 1: knows how that works. But he'll have a big week
Speaker 1: and he'll be hard on himself getting ready to go.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite yes of coming you have the big
Speaker 1: man upstairs, right, Uh. Prescott a schedule to meet with
Speaker 1: the doctors today Tuesday at surgery and September twelve and
Speaker 1: had the stitch removed from his right thumb September twenty six.
Speaker 1: So Connie, Yeah, the big Man upstairs does dictate many things. Uh,
Speaker 1: we'll save it for the theology podcast. But at the
Speaker 1: same time, if the Cowboys were one and three instead
Speaker 1: of three and one, I think Jared might be having
Speaker 1: some conversations with God and saying, no, it is time
Speaker 1: for Doc to return. Whether you can grip the damn
Speaker 1: ball or not. Cooper Rush has bought Dak Prescott some time.
Speaker 1: Best case scenario a totally different story if they don't
Speaker 1: win these games. But with Cooper Rush, he's not making
Speaker 1: mistakes and that defense is really holding up the team.
Speaker 1: They're so legit. They're really, really good. They've only allowed
Speaker 1: one touchdown and each of their games. Um and obviously
Speaker 1: playing Carson Wentz that's kind of a gimme. That's nice
Speaker 1: for a defense because you get sacked so many times
Speaker 1: and picked off. But is the confident Eagles fan come
Speaker 1: out again? That's I mean, you're probably right, but but yeah,
Speaker 1: this is um, this is nice for the Cowboys to have.
Speaker 1: It's a luxury to have this, to have Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: in there, and to be able to let Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: hell because now at this point, with the record that
Speaker 1: they have, he can come back and they're not up
Speaker 1: against the wall. They were such a mess in that
Speaker 1: Week one lost to the box. Not a lot to
Speaker 1: do with the Bucks, I think, and just the fact
Speaker 1: of you know, week one is week one, but it
Speaker 1: kind of gave I thought. The only thing was kind
Speaker 1: of tough for Dak Prescott was like, there weren't there
Speaker 1: wasn't a history this season of him being in that
Speaker 1: offense with three or four games like this, I think
Speaker 1: in general the offense is rounded out a little bit
Speaker 1: where when Prescott comes back, he should be able to
Speaker 1: duplicate what Rush has done. Otherwise all hell is going
Speaker 1: to break loose. I mean, I think they're hoping he'll
Speaker 1: be better than Cooper Rush. But is fourth and QBR
Speaker 1: right now? I know, well that's what It's just one
Speaker 1: metric out there, But he's been interception. I think one
Speaker 1: thing that can't be overlooked with what the Rush situation,
Speaker 1: what's going on here is the defense is putting him
Speaker 1: in a positive game script. Every single game, they've given
Speaker 1: up one touchdown each of their first four games. If
Speaker 1: if I don't know, if we see that, we're talking
Speaker 1: about the same things. And by the way, he had
Speaker 1: two interceptions that got wiped away by penalty on Sunday,
Speaker 1: So these certain things you see when you you check
Speaker 1: out the game. But at the same time, he's been
Speaker 1: very good and been putting a very good situation, not
Speaker 1: a very good situation for tow a tongue of Viola,
Speaker 1: who is already been ruled out of the Week five
Speaker 1: game against the Jets UM after suffering that really scary
Speaker 1: brain injury on Thursday Night Football this past week against
Speaker 1: the Bengals. The right move obviously here Mark Teddy Bridgewater
Speaker 1: is one of the best backups UM you could ask for.
Speaker 1: So that was a good job by them building in
Speaker 1: some security blanket there. And now he gets the call
Speaker 1: and the question becomes when do we see two again?
Speaker 1: Because obviously this is a very hot button issue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, we spent all offseason talking about not if,
Speaker 1: but when Bridgewater would supplant to ah in the in
Speaker 1: the lineup because of frustration performance and instead too has
Speaker 1: had a surprise season. He's been I think you know
Speaker 1: that one game was an outlier against the Ravens in
Speaker 1: terms of thinking that that was gonna be the way
Speaker 1: that the offense was going to produce week after week
Speaker 1: because it's just not been the case. But to uh,
Speaker 1: I think they have to at this point because it's
Speaker 1: become a national story. Um. Although I think Mike McDaniel
Speaker 1: had had one of the better coaches around in terms
Speaker 1: of how he responded to and just being real about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about this on the way to the airport
Speaker 1: actually yesterday that um McDaniel, who's eloquent and he comes
Speaker 1: from a different um angle, and I feel like the
Speaker 1: way he's handling the situation is helpful to the Dolphins
Speaker 1: as opposed to and more. I don't want to say basic,
Speaker 1: but your typical head coach, you might say something the
Speaker 1: wrong way and it makes a story bigger and worse
Speaker 1: for Miami. Here are some comments made um late last
Speaker 1: week by my McDaniel that really kind of caught my
Speaker 1: interest and how he went about the answer and the
Speaker 1: tricky idea of when do you play to it and
Speaker 1: how do you handle a very tricky situation. If I
Speaker 1: if I were to sit someone for a uh uh
Speaker 1: medical issue going against medical people abstractly, then when do
Speaker 1: I play him again? Uh? And that is kind of
Speaker 1: what what struck me there. What he's saying is he's
Speaker 1: McDaniel says he's passing all the the eyeball test to him,
Speaker 1: and then he has the doctors telling him one thing.
Speaker 1: He's referring by the way, to the initial um, what
Speaker 1: was ruled as a back injury um, and then turned
Speaker 1: out he compounds it with the head injury the next week,
Speaker 1: even though it looked like a head injury the first time.
Speaker 1: He's saying, he's in a tricky situation because if you're
Speaker 1: telling him that, oh, you just can't play him, Uh,
Speaker 1: that's kind of an abstraction, like you're you're just so
Speaker 1: when do you put him back in at that point? Um?
Speaker 1: That that that kind of tells you where McDaniel and
Speaker 1: the dolphins are right now, because they know eyeballs are
Speaker 1: on them right now. And it's hard to have a
Speaker 1: right answer when you want to protect the guy, but
Speaker 1: you also need to listen to what the doctors are saying.
Speaker 1: And if the doctor's gonna say he's ready to return.
Speaker 1: Does McDaniel just put him in the lineup? You would,
Speaker 1: it would make sense if he felt confident about it.
Speaker 1: But you could tell in his voice that it's something
Speaker 1: that he's, you know, struggling with. It. Seems like he's
Speaker 1: really wrestling with it, just like having having this conversation
Speaker 1: and the way that he's talking about it, because normally
Speaker 1: he is a little more streamlined in his responses and
Speaker 1: that full response. You didn't hear the full response, but everyone,
Speaker 1: but there's a lot of halting and very carefully choosing
Speaker 1: his words. Yeah, right, So you can tell that he's
Speaker 1: obviously under a ton of pressure. And everyone saw what
Speaker 1: happened in that primetime game and Amazon played it a
Speaker 1: lot too, so we all we all were there for
Speaker 1: it basically, and they when they do get cleared for two, um,
Speaker 1: I think that they will put him in. But it's like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you really know? How do you
Speaker 1: really Nobody really knows to be honest, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how a concussion is so difficult too. I've had
Speaker 1: a concussion before and like a lot of times, those
Speaker 1: things come back like it's not something that is so
Speaker 1: black and white. His job as a coach is to
Speaker 1: play players when there he's told that they're healthy. He's
Speaker 1: not claiming to be a doctor. And I do like
Speaker 1: the line essentially about saying if I go against medical
Speaker 1: people abstract lee, then him as a coach, when is
Speaker 1: he supposed when is the decision correct to put anyone
Speaker 1: back on the field. And I think that's what's different
Speaker 1: about him as a a speaker. Uh, there, you're right.
Speaker 1: Then there could have been a lot of coach speak
Speaker 1: from other people where you play dumb or you just
Speaker 1: like you kind of put the reporters and the people,
Speaker 1: the fans in a tough place. Um. He does kind
Speaker 1: of remind me of when I would attempt to like
Speaker 1: call girls on a rotary phone in like sixth grade.
Speaker 1: I sound very much like that in that performance back
Speaker 1: in the day. Tell me more about the seventies, that
Speaker 1: was the eighties as much as I can. Finally, as
Speaker 1: a report from the New York Post that Brady and Giselle,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Giselle have hired divorce lawyers. So this
Speaker 1: might be turning into the end of that road, but
Speaker 1: you'd be sad. I haven't really enjoyed Giselle in the
Speaker 1: football orbit, and of course i'd rather than being a
Speaker 1: happy family dynamic. But that's a report that's out there, Marky,
Speaker 1: it is and I feel like we've been on the
Speaker 1: case of this UM situation. We don't celebrate it on
Speaker 1: any level. We just we we observe it. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's a lot going on inside the mind of
Speaker 1: Tom Brady beyond just robotic football situations right now. And
Speaker 1: they just went through a a big storm down there.
Speaker 1: To be Tom Brady, you gotta make a lot of sacrifices,
Speaker 1: I think too, to have football be such a huge
Speaker 1: part of your life and to be that, you know,
Speaker 1: on top of the game we should. It gives me
Speaker 1: an idea because I know Aaron Rodgers is a weekly
Speaker 1: guest during the season the Pat McAfee show. Uh, justin,
Speaker 1: can we get Tom Brady on every Tuesday Tuesdays with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady? Yeah, I'll just I'll hook that up and
Speaker 1: that'll be a thing and just let him know, because
Speaker 1: I think this will be a part of the hook
Speaker 1: of getting him to agree a lot of it. Most
Speaker 1: of it will be based on his personal life and
Speaker 1: what's going on and some private conversations. UM and unpaid Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, I think we're the right show to handle
Speaker 1: that with um, with kid gloves and a sensitive fashion
Speaker 1: that would also elicit truth from him on that is
Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. Let's take a break and
Speaker 1: then we will get to the fearless predictions of late July.
Speaker 1: Welcome back up, fearless prediction. We felt strongly about something
Speaker 1: in the summer, and now it's time to pay the pauper.
Speaker 1: Here we go, totally absurd. Yeah. Us, in late July
Speaker 1: on this very program, we tried to read the tea leaves.
Speaker 1: I wish Colleen you were on this episode. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: me too. I listened. Did you like that episode? I
Speaker 1: loved it, one of my favorites. Oh wonderful. Okay, So
Speaker 1: then you'll know exactly what we're about to discuss because
Speaker 1: you've processed it all and retained it apparently incredibly. Um.
Speaker 1: We'll go through each of our late July predictions, and
Speaker 1: the way we set it up was these predictions. This
Speaker 1: is what people will be talking about on October four,
Speaker 1: once the week four Monday night football game is over
Speaker 1: between the Niners and Ramps. So let's go in order. Um,
Speaker 1: the Great Eric Roberts another. Really got a really talented
Speaker 1: crop of people working behind the scenes for NFL media
Speaker 1: and this show put together this dock flawlessly. Let's get
Speaker 1: to it, Greggy. Um, did we mention that Greg's not
Speaker 1: here today? I don't think we had nobody? Where's this doc?
Speaker 1: Where could I check out this doctor? You could share?
Speaker 1: You can. Let let's talk about just take us through
Speaker 1: the second all right, that's what the talk about does.
Speaker 1: Greg obviously wasn't feeling great over the weekend. He couldn't
Speaker 1: even do the Sunday Stadium experience with us, but he
Speaker 1: he was a trooper. He gave us the Monday night
Speaker 1: show and then he said take Tuesday off. Let the
Speaker 1: iron men and women handle it for Tuesday. See you Thursday. Well,
Speaker 1: he'll love that. Nice summarization, Greg said, Mark Sessler. Do
Speaker 1: we have this, let's hear it. Let's listen. In QB
Speaker 1: Index after week four, Um Mark's writing Lamar Jackson number two.
Speaker 1: This is his his profile. Wow, Lamar is up at
Speaker 1: number two through a season. In subsequent off season of Endless,
Speaker 1: Storm Clouds, Waves of Chaos, and Old Fortune, Lamar Jackson
Speaker 1: never blinked. They're in emphasis on Lamar's legs and the
Speaker 1: Ravens running game is overshadowed how Big plays with his
Speaker 1: arm left the Patriots, Bills and Bengals looking like soaking
Speaker 1: school children who lost their umbrellas. The voters now resemble
Speaker 1: bright yellow chickadees, but the only foul carcass in the
Speaker 1: a f C North lying a nert to the north
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Send that to me, I will use so.
Speaker 1: First of all, spot On Lamar has been one of
Speaker 1: the very best quarterbacks in the league through four weeks,
Speaker 1: So Greg nailed that one. H Are you just gonna
Speaker 1: use that copy? Wow? I'm really I'm really thinking about
Speaker 1: that right now because that's what I'm in the middle of.
Speaker 1: That's why you came in almost and possibly at three
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning today, which has never happened in
Speaker 1: history of this company, to work on this. So you
Speaker 1: have the chance now to insert that into the copy
Speaker 1: for what's going live on NFL dot com tomorrow. Why
Speaker 1: would I not use it? Why would I not save
Speaker 1: an extra twenty minutes? It's a it's a slam. Good jobs, marter,
Speaker 1: not harder, Alright the bucket Danny said that the Buccaneers
Speaker 1: will be one in three after four weeks, the blame
Speaker 1: will fall on Tom Brady. This is the end. Type
Speaker 1: of talk will start, but they will figure it out
Speaker 1: in time. Greggy thought they'd be three and one. Mark
Speaker 1: said two and two. That was really gutsy. Uh, they
Speaker 1: are two and two, but they are not playing well
Speaker 1: and they just got absolutely hammered on Sunday Night Football.
Speaker 1: And I believe people are, you know, expressing some concerns
Speaker 1: about the Bucks early on, but my idea was more
Speaker 1: going to be, uh, the offense would be in a
Speaker 1: deep funk. And quite frankly, I'm gonna say, because of
Speaker 1: all the injuries, that hasn't even had a chance to
Speaker 1: be an issue. No one's giving the Bucks offense heat
Speaker 1: right now, Colleen, because they haven't had their guys on
Speaker 1: the field, so that they've kind of gotten a pass
Speaker 1: actually for their inability to produce a lot of points. True,
Speaker 1: but they did have their guys back for this game.
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, all right, well, maybe they're
Speaker 1: just not in rhythm at this point. And well, I
Speaker 1: mean they put up three D seventy three passing yards
Speaker 1: thirty one, barely ignored the ground game. They ran the
Speaker 1: ball like twice the whole game, and half that yardage
Speaker 1: was in garbage time. I don't know. I just don't.
Speaker 1: Do you think did you watch a game and think, oh,
Speaker 1: their offenses? I was sort of stunned by what happened
Speaker 1: to their defense, although it was the Chiefs and Mahomes
Speaker 1: playing at like his very best for big chunks of
Speaker 1: that game. That said, I mean, home is gonna be
Speaker 1: number one in your QBS? Well should I reveal that now?
Speaker 1: But I could say that if if you wanted to
Speaker 1: do what Greg just did, it would be the second
Speaker 1: thing that I mean, like you're saying you got this
Speaker 1: Bucks thing right? Um did all right? Well? I was
Speaker 1: it seemed like you were going there. Someone said they'd
Speaker 1: be too right. I kind of felt that way. What
Speaker 1: would it be fair to say that anyone's blaming Tom
Speaker 1: Brady for this? Nobody is okay? But I think you
Speaker 1: would be right about Mahomes very possibly being the top
Speaker 1: quarterback right now in this piece, in this piece written
Speaker 1: by one person, got it all right? Mark Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: wins the job in Caroline. I don't know anything that
Speaker 1: just happened. Where is Lamar Jackson gonna be in the
Speaker 1: he is top three? But he's not two. But but
Speaker 1: now that I've remembered that, Greg said all that, and
Speaker 1: if I could get someone behind the glass to transcribe
Speaker 1: it directly, I'll just move him to number to transcribe it.
Speaker 1: You have to have someone do it for you. If
Speaker 1: someone could, it would be helpful if someone could. If
Speaker 1: they can't, then I'll do it. But I will just
Speaker 1: make him number two. Kind of a weird ask. Um, Okay,
Speaker 1: so number two, he's going to be here saying if
Speaker 1: I can get a transcription of what Greg's Baker man
Speaker 1: may feel Disaccording to Mark, wins the job in Carolina
Speaker 1: and beats the Browns in Week one. The Panthers lose
Speaker 1: the next three games, and now we're going into Mark universe.
Speaker 1: Sam Donald has announced the Week five started before being
Speaker 1: jumped by a child gang and losing the starting job
Speaker 1: to Baker for the rest of the season. Tell me
Speaker 1: more about the child gang. Well, this is happening um
Speaker 1: around the globe. There are outbreaks or instances of younger individuals, teens, adolescents, um,
Speaker 1: kind of group mobbing adults in the street and taking
Speaker 1: them down. And but this didn't happen. Yeah, as of today,
Speaker 1: it did not Dan has the Panthers started three and
Speaker 1: one and get their fans pumped for the season, but
Speaker 1: Dan won't be buying in and predicts the fade. Greg
Speaker 1: says Panthers feel like a team that can win seven games.
Speaker 1: Now the Panthers are one in three, so that is incorrect.
Speaker 1: But according also this prediction, Connie, I was going to
Speaker 1: be saying I'm not buying it because they stink, which
Speaker 1: they do. So I'm taking a half credit on this
Speaker 1: one and nobody could take it from me. Uh Greg
Speaker 1: did seven wins? Seven wins? How are you taking credit
Speaker 1: for this? Took a half credit because I said they
Speaker 1: stink and even if they're doing well, they're still not good.
Speaker 1: I was a head of curve. They're feel strong well
Speaker 1: al right up next, Greg? Uh oh, he did one
Speaker 1: for me to where he predicted how I would write
Speaker 1: about the Texans, which I already have done because that's
Speaker 1: live in NFL dot com. The latest power rankings. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's hit it behind the glass shares Gregg's prediction from
Speaker 1: what I would write this week Power rankings coming in
Speaker 1: at number twenty the Houston Texas And here's the content.
Speaker 1: The old zuser doesn't know what to do with these
Speaker 1: three and one Texans. One point went over the Colts,
Speaker 1: and the opener was all about special teams, and it's
Speaker 1: tough for dan Zeus to get excited when they dispatched
Speaker 1: the moribund Bears, and three and Sunday's win was a
Speaker 1: classic case of chargers gonna charger. Still, the old New
Speaker 1: Blue Eyes has to admit a fondness for Davis Mills.
Speaker 1: It is becoming impossible to ignore the eradicable greatness that
Speaker 1: Kiami Fairband has given the world. After another game winner,
Speaker 1: especially to Daddy Rich this one all right, so this one.
Speaker 1: The Texans are dead last in the power rankings at
Speaker 1: oh three and one. Also, part of the reason why
Speaker 1: Greg was spotting that one is because there was some
Speaker 1: Greg in uh sessy heat around the Texans that I
Speaker 1: wasn't buying into. And sure enough, Davis Mills is not.
Speaker 1: No heat around Davis Mills, no heat around the Texans.
Speaker 1: They stink. Any thoughts on that, Mark, I just I
Speaker 1: find it funny that Greg he would be agitated that
Speaker 1: he can't defend himself at all in the show. We
Speaker 1: hear him and what he said, and then he's just
Speaker 1: taken out with a bat right. Well, he got that
Speaker 1: one wrong. You got that one really wrong. Sorry, buddy.
Speaker 1: I can't believe he didn't have any thing on Geno
Speaker 1: or Teddy. True. We were at a point. We were
Speaker 1: at a point where those topics had tired in and
Speaker 1: Mark to such a degree that I think Greg took
Speaker 1: a left turn. Yeah, most likely all right. Mark also
Speaker 1: um went to mark Land and spoke of a bounty
Speaker 1: gate two point oh controversy. Eric at tempos. He tackles
Speaker 1: a streaker during rams fort is Monday Night football and
Speaker 1: becomes a national figure. One game is postponed because of
Speaker 1: an earthquake or birds turning on humans. I do remember
Speaker 1: this episode now one, and I think Mark was doing
Speaker 1: like a rapid fire. This is this is a bit
Speaker 1: of a cliff Notes version the way you're reading it,
Speaker 1: but it was I think there was more like option
Speaker 1: A B, C or D could occur right right right.
Speaker 1: One NFL coach fired because of an M D M
Speaker 1: A scandal. Kyler Murray has a new TD celebration where
Speaker 1: he fake reads a book and says independent study this
Speaker 1: because that was back during the you know, we need
Speaker 1: him to be studying four hours a day. But in
Speaker 1: this case, he would have been a victorious player and
Speaker 1: basically said, take that clause and stick it somewhere. Now
Speaker 1: there was a prominent on field presence, um a unwelcome
Speaker 1: presence at rams forts Monday night football and in the
Speaker 1: Horseshoes and hand Grenades world of Mark's predictions, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you're going to take this as a w and if so,
Speaker 1: what is your attitude? What is the attitude? Why don't
Speaker 1: you say what actually happen? It was a streaker? It
Speaker 1: was not a streaker. Is it a streaker someone that's nude? Well,
Speaker 1: I guess technically, but I think that this could fall
Speaker 1: as a streaker because it was someone that ran onto
Speaker 1: the field. I'm getting I'm going I'm getting word that
Speaker 1: you don't have to be clearly he would be naked
Speaker 1: to figure you're getting word from who Drew Christensen behind
Speaker 1: the glass? I'm I think in general with these predictions,
Speaker 1: what I try to tell you is that you get
Speaker 1: a sense of something happening, in this case a disturbance,
Speaker 1: and then I to flesh out the show add too
Speaker 1: much detail, but in general, like the idea of spot,
Speaker 1: I said in The Horseshoe and hand Grenades World of
Speaker 1: Mark Predictions. We're gonna I'm sure you'll take credit for it. Right.
Speaker 1: You have given yourself half a point for predicting that
Speaker 1: the Panthers would be three and one and get their
Speaker 1: fans pumped for the season. No, I took the half
Speaker 1: point for the other half of that, which is saying
Speaker 1: I don't buy into the Panthers. They stink, And the
Speaker 1: judges granted the half point. I think the judges feel
Speaker 1: pretty good about this one. We're right back where we
Speaker 1: started with these, with these contests and games called a
Speaker 1: streaker on the field during rams for that's incredible that
Speaker 1: that actually happened. Was he was wearing clothes though? Yes,
Speaker 1: but if you look a little and search ram streaker,
Speaker 1: like there's a hundred millions and Tamposey was just dressed
Speaker 1: as Bobby Wagner was Erka, there was she the one?
Speaker 1: Was she the one that I'm just saying it really
Speaker 1: you really struggle with celebrating anyone but yourself. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: it's not really that close. But cool. Uh, how about
Speaker 1: let's listen to our friend Harlan with the call of
Speaker 1: the protester, the clothed protest there that ran on the
Speaker 1: field and here comes and you stopped it him playing
Speaker 1: because someone has run on the field with a smoke
Speaker 1: bomb that is drink and he's running up the sideline.
Speaker 1: How a couple of rams come over there and make
Speaker 1: the tackle head first, and he's in a cloud of
Speaker 1: pink smoke. Tree can't see him, and now on him
Speaker 1: are a couple of security guards. That guy is headed
Speaker 1: to the slammer. Did wait a minute, Gummer, Didn't that
Speaker 1: happen at Bill's Rams? Two? There was a similar incident
Speaker 1: where at Bill's Rams there was a guy surrounded in
Speaker 1: pink smoke. And I just remember seeing it after I
Speaker 1: had left the stadium to do with the things. I
Speaker 1: love it. Kevin same same, probably the same unified sort
Speaker 1: of protest front, a small collection been on the show.
Speaker 1: There's no one else that uses the term slammer. And
Speaker 1: he did it so confidently, and he's just wonderful, just
Speaker 1: wonderful work. All right. The judges are coming in. Mark,
Speaker 1: here we go, and half a point. You got half
Speaker 1: a point for this prediction. That's cool. That actually seems
Speaker 1: fair because I suggested five or six other things that
Speaker 1: didn't occur within that. I was Erica and not Bobby
Speaker 1: Wagner that took him out? Would you would you still
Speaker 1: say oh with the technical streaker, like not you get
Speaker 1: point seven five points. It was Eric, which is a
Speaker 1: really nice like that nice bump. Um. I think it's
Speaker 1: incredible that a man ran out with a smoke bomb
Speaker 1: at a game. I don't think it's a good thing,
Speaker 1: but it did look kind of cool. The photos were
Speaker 1: kind of cool, like the hint of Bobby Wagner with
Speaker 1: all the smoke around him visually visual feast, Like if
Speaker 1: I'm Bobby Wagner when I retire and I have my
Speaker 1: whole room in my study with all the great photos
Speaker 1: from my career, it's got to be there. Yeah. Him
Speaker 1: and Attack McKinley just like coming in all right. And
Speaker 1: finally this one is um it's a bit of a
Speaker 1: I was gonna say shoehorn, but a horseshoe horn. Our
Speaker 1: producer Justin uh he uh. He says he had a
Speaker 1: prediction as well, do you wanna should we seed the
Speaker 1: Florida Justin because he did, he went out of his
Speaker 1: way to say I would like to also speak on
Speaker 1: the show on this. I think it's good to support
Speaker 1: a younger person beginning in their at this aspect of
Speaker 1: their career. Are I agree the turn the mic off?
Speaker 1: But since you took the lead there and and you
Speaker 1: spoke with so you'd agree with what either? If I
Speaker 1: could advise said, we don't say the other the other way.
Speaker 1: We've heard a lot from Justin on the show, and
Speaker 1: I feel like he's used up a lot of real
Speaker 1: estate already. Now you're totally right, that's enough. Enough is enough,
Speaker 1: is what I say. But which one are you going with?
Speaker 1: I think the ladder people, you know, is that it
Speaker 1: for the show today? That's it? You know how much
Speaker 1: it's killing Justin right now because we have a game
Speaker 1: to talk about. His fearless prediction was at the cult
Speaker 1: start one in three hates the cults. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a big time homer for the Titans. So this is
Speaker 1: so exciting for him. You're crushing him and like this
Speaker 1: he already wants to do is talk about it right now?
Speaker 1: He can't do it, well, not until Mark gives him
Speaker 1: the clearance. But Mark, what would the ladder? Mark? What
Speaker 1: do you think? Let's let him back in? I feel
Speaker 1: I feel kind of mean and we already already seven
Speaker 1: time he could turn on my golf. He did a
Speaker 1: great chap in London. Alright, alright, you can come in justin.
Speaker 1: What do you got? Well, thanks Dan and Mark and Colleen.
Speaker 1: You're letting me come on. Yeah, I said the Coults
Speaker 1: would start one in three. The cults have like Star
Speaker 1: did one in three or worse every year since. I think,
Speaker 1: by the way, it is one, two and one. The
Speaker 1: judges to the judges, all right, here we go, and
Speaker 1: the judges say, oh, point to five a quarter point
Speaker 1: not bad, not bad, could be worse. It could be worse.
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Could be better. Could Wait? How annoyed
Speaker 1: were you justin when that game ended in a tie,
Speaker 1: because you already knew you were banged for this segment.
Speaker 1: I was mostly yeah, I mean the segment, sure, but
Speaker 1: just because like now, the Colts and Texans both get
Speaker 1: us stupid non loss whatever. It's fine, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: But and you and you did get a quarter of
Speaker 1: a point, so there you go. Alright, Uh, that is
Speaker 1: fearless predictions for week four. That's fun. That was good.
Speaker 1: That was good. We'll do it again. Uh down the line,
Speaker 1: all right, we got the TNF preview coming up. At
Speaker 1: first a break alright, let's hit the TNF preview before
Speaker 1: we say goodbye. It is speaking of the Indian apples cults.
Speaker 1: They're all banged up. I mean, it feels like everybody's
Speaker 1: banged up. I know what's going on with that. It's weird,
Speaker 1: weird time here. Mercury is now out of retrograde, so
Speaker 1: maybe this will fix itself. It's funny, the mercury out
Speaker 1: of retrograde bit that's been around forever. I never understand
Speaker 1: anything about I missed whatever the baseline, like when people what,
Speaker 1: I guess it was a news story for real ones
Speaker 1: and I didn't read it. And now people say that's
Speaker 1: all the time, and I never know what it means.
Speaker 1: Does it mean? Just like weird stuff going on. Everything
Speaker 1: just like kind of sucks if you're if you're attuned
Speaker 1: to it, it may not affect if you're if you're
Speaker 1: not buying into it. I mean you're calling it a bit.
Speaker 1: It's a celestial event to some degree, like uh, mercury
Speaker 1: and yeah, I told you, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: What is it? I don't really know exactly what it is,
Speaker 1: but I just know that something happens with mercury and
Speaker 1: then it just like messes up all of the alignment
Speaker 1: a lot of chaotic in theory, it creates a lot
Speaker 1: of chaotic um theology podcast. I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: theological event. It's more about if you view the star
Speaker 1: star movements astrology to that one planet Mercury is retrograding.
Speaker 1: It's like, if the tides are affected by the moon,
Speaker 1: why aren't the people affected by the right. It kind
Speaker 1: of just makes sense. I don't think you're the target
Speaker 1: audience stand necessarily at the for the way it's being
Speaker 1: marketed today, Cults Broncos. As as we know, the Cults
Speaker 1: are one, two and one, the Broncos two and two
Speaker 1: and a reminder, this TNF preview is presented by Prime Video,
Speaker 1: the new exclusive home for Thursday Night Football. Uh, Connie,
Speaker 1: here we are the The Broncos are favored by three
Speaker 1: points in this game. And you understand it because the
Speaker 1: Cults have been so bad. But um, I find it
Speaker 1: hard to get behind the Broncos in any scenario. And
Speaker 1: I see that they keep on getting put in prime
Speaker 1: time because everyone thought there were going to be a
Speaker 1: big deal, but so far, And we saw it again
Speaker 1: against the Raiders on Sunday They're just not a big deal.
Speaker 1: They don't seem like a big time team. Do you
Speaker 1: see them getting against the weaker opponent at home? Is
Speaker 1: this and I set up for them to get some
Speaker 1: swagger back. Do they have the ability to even do
Speaker 1: such a thing? You know, it's so difficult to say
Speaker 1: that because every time I watch their games, I'm just
Speaker 1: so frustrated by them, and especially like with Nathaniel Hackett
Speaker 1: with the decisions that he's made, and now you have
Speaker 1: Javonte Williams out for the year, and he was one
Speaker 1: of the things that kept me interested in their team
Speaker 1: in general. He was one of the things that made
Speaker 1: the offense pop and I thought that he could be
Speaker 1: one of the guys that would really help aid them.
Speaker 1: And we saw a little bit of Russell Wilson kind
Speaker 1: of becoming and channeling his old self with the more
Speaker 1: that he freelances, the more success that they have. But
Speaker 1: it's just really difficult to get behind this team. And
Speaker 1: we were told that the a f C West was
Speaker 1: going to be good and we believed it, and by
Speaker 1: we I mean me, and it just has not happened yet.
Speaker 1: And now going up against the Colts, who are in
Speaker 1: their own malaise right now. And they can't run the
Speaker 1: ball either. Jonathan Taylor. That whole offense was built around
Speaker 1: running the ball, and this past week he averaged two
Speaker 1: point one yards per carry. This is a team with
Speaker 1: all of the turnovers that Matt Ryan. He just can't
Speaker 1: he can't get into a rhythm. And now you have
Speaker 1: Shack Leonard who had his debut on defense and now
Speaker 1: he's out again. It's just tough with all of the injuries.
Speaker 1: Everyone is banged. Mark, before I throw to just a
Speaker 1: quick update on Jonathan Taylor. Last year's rushing champ, and
Speaker 1: he was unbelievable for them and really has not been
Speaker 1: able to get going the last couple of weeks. Suffered
Speaker 1: up what they believed to be a high ankle sprain
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Frank Reich said on Tuesday that this is
Speaker 1: the type of injury that he's not really at risk
Speaker 1: of injuring his ankle. War but also not like hearing that, Mark,
Speaker 1: because that probably means it's just something he's just got
Speaker 1: now pain management, and you worry about is either going
Speaker 1: to be the same player going forward after suffering it. Right,
Speaker 1: It's the kind of thing where after the season you
Speaker 1: find out, Oh well, this was why he never really
Speaker 1: became the Jonathan Taylor that anchored that offense and was
Speaker 1: such a revelation a season ago. And they are not
Speaker 1: an offense they can say, we'll just give it to
Speaker 1: our quarterback because he's thriving. I mean, one of the
Speaker 1: most really one of the reasons that the Cults have
Speaker 1: been totally unwatchable is that, you know, they backed into
Speaker 1: this Matt Ryan thing because the Falcons went and chased
Speaker 1: after Deshaun Watson and turned into a divorce for Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan in Atlanta. But it's not worked. I think that
Speaker 1: you could have projected Matt Ryan being in the same
Speaker 1: good situation that Carson Wentz was a year ago in theory,
Speaker 1: behind a good offensive line, a good ground game. Whether
Speaker 1: offensive line has been abysmal, and he's been on the
Speaker 1: run NonStop and it's created total chaos with turnovers, fumbles.
Speaker 1: I'm Matt Ryan right now. I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm watching him thinking like, is this guy playing next season?
Speaker 1: He has a league high nine fumbles, He's taken fifteen
Speaker 1: sacks and four games, he has five interceptions, a lot
Speaker 1: of them coming when pressure is all over him. And
Speaker 1: I don't know their way out of this. Here's something
Speaker 1: from our friend Zach Kiefer, who by the way, wrote
Speaker 1: that incredible piece on Chris Wesley on the Athletic seek
Speaker 1: it out if you haven't read it before, does a
Speaker 1: great job covering that scene in Indie from nahem Hinz
Speaker 1: on Monday had this to say about the Colts and
Speaker 1: their inability to get out of the gates past this
Speaker 1: year and many years. Him said, this not an excuse,
Speaker 1: but every year we have a new quarterback. So each
Speaker 1: year we have growing pains while we sit here and
Speaker 1: watch Tennessee, which has had Tannehill what my whole career,
Speaker 1: and each year where we're starting and we have to
Speaker 1: turn the page. So that sucks a little bit too
Speaker 1: that most teams we play have an established guy, but
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. We have figured it out and we
Speaker 1: will figure it out. And two things people could say,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure Graver is probably shaking his head and saying,
Speaker 1: what a cry baby. I think he's right. What he's saying,
Speaker 1: I think checks out. Every single year since Luck walked
Speaker 1: away from the football, they are trying to establish a
Speaker 1: new identity with a new quarterback, and that is not
Speaker 1: easy to do. Um. The one thing that I pushed
Speaker 1: back on a little bit here is if the offensive
Speaker 1: line is not going to be what we thought it
Speaker 1: was gonna be, I don't think this gets better because
Speaker 1: you have Taylor. Maybe he will be healthy and he'll
Speaker 1: be the guy down the line. But this whole Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan thing was all built on him getting protection, having
Speaker 1: a better structure around him. The guy that we're getting
Speaker 1: now is basically the guy with the falcons last year,
Speaker 1: where he'll make some nice throws, but they don't have
Speaker 1: some lost weeks and he'll look like an old man
Speaker 1: at times. And I don't think that's something that's going
Speaker 1: to get better as the year goes out. No, And
Speaker 1: I mean I I you're already hearing and you can
Speaker 1: sense a lot of heat suddenly on Frank Reich, who
Speaker 1: a year ago, I mean before last season, like had
Speaker 1: one of the highest sort of tea. Yeah, it's true,
Speaker 1: I mean like, but you could say that if their
Speaker 1: owner was annoyed by what happened last season, he has
Speaker 1: to be extremely agitated right now. And so I think
Speaker 1: his job is on the line. Chris Bower's job is
Speaker 1: on the line. But I mean, also those are guys
Speaker 1: that have had to deal with this quarterback situation year
Speaker 1: after year. They're one of these teams that are kind
Speaker 1: of good but not great, and they've not figured it
Speaker 1: out at quarterback. If they can't run the ball, then
Speaker 1: this offense just does not work. They use the run
Speaker 1: to set up the past and then when you add
Speaker 1: in all of the turnovers, it's just a disaster for them. Uh. Mark,
Speaker 1: remind me again who was the first subject of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Flashpoint series, Baker Mayfield. I mean, I said,
Speaker 1: we all decided to really go ahead and star. No,
Speaker 1: we had Zach keeper on, didn't we Then we talked
Speaker 1: about the cults. Guys. Listen, I thought up, I tried
Speaker 1: great shaking his head right. Yeah, it was Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: It was like a week before they traded him. Zack
Speaker 1: Keefer said they're probably going to trade him, and then
Speaker 1: they did, right, and we were talking about how did
Speaker 1: they move forward? And that went well. Um, So here
Speaker 1: we are with this game. I think this is a
Speaker 1: good set up for the Broncos, especially with Taylor potentially out.
Speaker 1: That might be gamesmanship from Reich as well, talking about
Speaker 1: at this stage in the game that Taylor you know,
Speaker 1: might not get worse. I don't know how you play
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor on a short week, given how important he
Speaker 1: is to the team. But I guess you could also
Speaker 1: look at it as this game is important for the cults.
Speaker 1: They need to start stacking some w's. I would say
Speaker 1: this is a Broncos win and the easy Broncos win
Speaker 1: at home. But there's nothing about the Broncos that's been
Speaker 1: easy so far, so it could be a close one here.
Speaker 1: And also Matt Ryan with the fumbles. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know we're talking about the turnovers, but it is really
Speaker 1: surprising to me that he has nine fumbles in four games.
Speaker 1: Like that is old guys that can't move, and we
Speaker 1: just saw it with Flacco during his time with the Jets,
Speaker 1: even guys that were established stars or real talented guys.
Speaker 1: Flacco was a Super Bowl m v. P. Ryan. We
Speaker 1: know it was a borderline Hall of Fame type guy.
Speaker 1: With the Falcons. Once they lose any mobility and they
Speaker 1: become that older statue, as we call the stone age pony,
Speaker 1: they don't hold out to the ball anymore either. A
Speaker 1: lot of it's not just him, you know, running around
Speaker 1: untouched in it. The ball is slipping out of his hands.
Speaker 1: It's I'm getting destroyed by two or three people. Sometimes
Speaker 1: he's taken some terribly brutal hits, so you wonder if
Speaker 1: he's gonna last the season. The Broncos don't have Randy Gregory.
Speaker 1: He's been put on I r with a knee and
Speaker 1: I will He'll be back. I will add one other
Speaker 1: note from Grave Digger that the game, if you're a
Speaker 1: viewer or a fan, appears only on Amazon Prime in
Speaker 1: the NFL Plus Mark, I was going to tag the
Speaker 1: cover with that, but you just went and grabbed the race.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I thought that I didn't want to
Speaker 1: leave you feeling. Are you feeling some heat? Like maybe
Speaker 1: Mark is coming for you, just trying to help you.
Speaker 1: Quite the opposite, Broncos Country, Quite the opposite. I loved
Speaker 1: that Mark took that initiative that I'm going to get
Speaker 1: that plug. I'm Russell Wilson and if some guys are
Speaker 1: interested in a pregame show leading up to the game,
Speaker 1: it's emotional. We gotta get out of here. Good bye.
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Very exciting, oh man, more innocent times, a
Speaker 1: different period at least, you know with Nate Hacke. By
Speaker 1: the way, we're not talking about the other grizzly mishaps
Speaker 1: in his coaching career in the first two weeks. That
Speaker 1: thing's calmed down a little bit less two weeks. But
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Speaker 1: Any anything else, anything, any final London takeaways Mark that
Speaker 1: you might have had in the chamber. I wanted to
Speaker 1: share my absolute um admiration for the recording artist young Blood.
Speaker 1: I had a note about young Blood two, so go on.
Speaker 1: I think that we both enjoyed that young Blood, who
Speaker 1: I was not aware of his material. He's a English
Speaker 1: I think he's like in the mold of kind of
Speaker 1: like I'm George Michael. But if I was Green Day,
Speaker 1: if I listened to Green Day growing up. Um, it
Speaker 1: kind of has that punk pop vibe. And I know
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to like him, but I thought he
Speaker 1: had an electric stage presence in the halftime show Saints Vikings.
Speaker 1: I couldn't keep my eyes off him. The music seems
Speaker 1: to be catchy enough. I'm in. I'm a young Blood fan.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the spelling, why you n G
Speaker 1: B l U D And if you think that's him
Speaker 1: trying too hardy, aren't you supposed to like him? It
Speaker 1: just doesn't seem like I'm the demographic for the young
Speaker 1: Blood nation, uh, the Bloodies, the Bloody Noses. But I uh,
Speaker 1: I am, I'm a member. I'm not a young Blood.
Speaker 1: I'm at all Blood and I'm in. So I wanted
Speaker 1: to share that plug for young Blood. Yeah, the note
Speaker 1: that I had which I wrote during the halftime show,
Speaker 1: I don't know if they disappeared in the American version
Speaker 1: of the broadcast. Young Blood putting his all into it.
Speaker 1: I thought that that's what he was, Just a tremendous
Speaker 1: effort by young Blood. I mean, he really the showcase
Speaker 1: end with him lying on his back at midfield after
Speaker 1: he had a cameraman with a steadicam chasing him around
Speaker 1: for probably if they did the next gen stats on
Speaker 1: going exactly they always are, by the way, So John
Speaker 1: is still over there in London and I guess there
Speaker 1: is a rail strike coming up on Saturday, and he
Speaker 1: think it's ongoing. It's but they picked different days for
Speaker 1: so he's supposed to travel to some club and it's
Speaker 1: two and a half hours away. For the story, he
Speaker 1: was going he was going to train there. I asked
Speaker 1: him about that initially, Yes, And it's the day that
Speaker 1: he has to go that they're doing the rail strikes.
Speaker 1: He has to rent a car and drive two and
Speaker 1: a half hours on the other side of the street.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to go great. Oh what if
Speaker 1: like John was actually driving all around the country of
Speaker 1: England just to go to nightclubs. I got this four
Speaker 1: hour drive to go to the hottest club in Manchester
Speaker 1: and then I got to go to the This is
Speaker 1: for Sports Illustrated. Sure. The thing I would ask is like,
Speaker 1: because our experience in London in the in the deep
Speaker 1: urban area parts of it, like the taxis are going
Speaker 1: insane all over the place. Suddenly like it's want to
Speaker 1: get you dropped? Gonzo in his rental car deep out
Speaker 1: in the country somewhere. It's like he's got to find
Speaker 1: a way to get out of London where it's like
Speaker 1: it's like Central Iran trying to drive there at this point.
Speaker 1: So good luck to John. Iran known for its gridlock traffic.
Speaker 1: It just seems like a chaotic place to suddenly be
Speaker 1: driving a car, but especially ronalds born in March twel
Speaker 1: ninety seven is an American sports writer who's married to
Speaker 1: NFL media broadcaster Calling Wolf. John, who is a Pisces
Speaker 1: resides in Los Angeles with his wife and two dogs.
Speaker 1: All Right, that's it. Thank you to everybody for listening.
Speaker 1: We'll be back on Thursday with the Week five Preview show,
Speaker 1: and then Friday with the Friday Fun Show, and then yes,
Speaker 1: Sunday the Week five Flagship Program. Honey, always I've done
Speaker 1: and a pleasure and you've said it all. I always do.
Speaker 1: Get some sleep you too. That was really cool you
Speaker 1: to let Justin talk on that one in three Dare.
Speaker 1: I felt my heart pulled in that direction. I felt power.
Speaker 1: He the call