Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty seven,
Speaker 1: episode four of DIR Daily Like Guys Day production of
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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it's Wednesday,
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Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by one of the funniest
Speaker 1: up and coming stand ups doing it. She's open for
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Speaker 1: and single drunk female. It's Madison Shepherd. Hi, what's up?
Speaker 1: I get come back, Madison's been too long. Thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. I'm glad I can come back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were just talking about how the last time you
Speaker 1: were on the episode was titled turns Out this Trump
Speaker 1: guy is an Asshole? So I think we were being sarcastic,
Speaker 1: but it feels like it was early in our journey
Speaker 1: as a podcast and as a country. Yeah. I remember
Speaker 1: that episode because after I think I said like weed
Speaker 1: culture was overrated or something, because all these like Weed
Speaker 1: had started tweeting at me about how I was wrong,
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's not for me. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: or just being like and you're proving it, like come on,
Speaker 1: don't keepe for Look, I love weed too, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going to waste my energy being look hey hey
Speaker 1: it's cool. Was a different year, was Yeah, priorities, priorities
Speaker 1: shifted hopefully for those people. A lot of other ships
Speaker 1: going on that you could maybe get your get outraged about.
Speaker 1: But what else is new with you? Oh gosh, not much.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just really excited. We're shooting season two
Speaker 1: of Single Drunk Female right now. Well they are obviously,
Speaker 1: I'm back home in l A right now. So um
Speaker 1: guest star so just you know, I go when they
Speaker 1: want me, and then I don't when they don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, okay, Okay, where do you shoot that? We
Speaker 1: shoot that in Atlanta? Actually, even though it's like set
Speaker 1: in Boston. Some Atlanta is like every city, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, they do everything there. Yeah, they really
Speaker 1: make it very it's very malleable that Atlanta. I mean
Speaker 1: like that, God bless the subsidies. Yeah. I feel like
Speaker 1: I know people who who work in the film industry
Speaker 1: that just moved to Atlanta straight up, or at least
Speaker 1: I hear about them. I don't know. But my uncle
Speaker 1: or my uncle had he would just get an apartment
Speaker 1: there because production was taking him out there so much.
Speaker 1: And then it would be funny. He'd come back from
Speaker 1: Atlanta and like get his ship mixed up and be
Speaker 1: like where's that once and I was like, wait, that's
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Never mind, I can't get there right now. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I I could see myself living there some of the time.
Speaker 1: Like I know a lot of people who have like
Speaker 1: condos there and stuff like. It just depends on how
Speaker 1: often you're there, Like if you're shooting an hour long
Speaker 1: TV show, you're there, like six to eight months or something.
Speaker 1: You know, it could be a very long time, and
Speaker 1: it's well, what's the point of not just being there
Speaker 1: for that time? You know, Yeah, what's something you like
Speaker 1: to do when you're in Atlanta? I try not to
Speaker 1: catch COVID. That's kind of my main gig. I've heard
Speaker 1: of that that's actually getting that was big for like
Speaker 1: a little while in I feel like people aren't talking
Speaker 1: about its cool retro like yeah, Atlanta. I just like
Speaker 1: I mostly stay in my hotel. I do get up
Speaker 1: at the Laughing Skull like a little bit, like I'll
Speaker 1: always try to pop in there, um whatever ian it
Speaker 1: bears hosting at the time. I will pretty much do
Speaker 1: any show he asked me to do. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: get wings, I order JR Crickets, you know, okay what yep,
Speaker 1: there you go, and I go to busy Bees. I
Speaker 1: get that on uber eats. It's very exciting, you know.
Speaker 1: But yeah, when you're working, it's not like you're like
Speaker 1: out there, like we'll have a social scene out here.
Speaker 1: They'd be like, I'm here to work and you know,
Speaker 1: do do whatever I can in between. Well, because I
Speaker 1: know so many people who have lost their gig because
Speaker 1: they tested positive like days before or hours before they
Speaker 1: were slated to get on set, and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: can't afford it, right, Oh, I didn't even think, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that form of bag. Wait. So then in that like instance,
Speaker 1: do they have like a standby performer in case like
Speaker 1: in those times, like we're like, well, you know what happens,
Speaker 1: we're calling up the p A now. Depending on who
Speaker 1: it is, like if it's like a series regular or
Speaker 1: the lead of the movie or whatever, they will halt production.
Speaker 1: But short of it being like numbers one through three
Speaker 1: on the calls chet, they just write you out and
Speaker 1: just right around you. It's painful. Yeah, you're just not
Speaker 1: in that episode or in that section in the movie
Speaker 1: or whatever you're shooting. I know somebody who's couldn't film
Speaker 1: their special because they were literal really doing I guess
Speaker 1: like they were about they were like a day out
Speaker 1: from like shooting it, and while they were there like
Speaker 1: rehearsing or something, they got a positive result and their
Speaker 1: special was no longer taping. Yeah, that actually happened to
Speaker 1: my friend Adele. Yeah, I think she actually had some
Speaker 1: issues with that. I'm not sure you guys might have
Speaker 1: heard of her up and comer. Yeah, all right, well
Speaker 1: we are going to get to know you a little
Speaker 1: bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell
Speaker 1: our listeners a couple of the things that we're talking
Speaker 1: about today. We're going to talk about the uprisings an Iran,
Speaker 1: which aren't just about the morality police and what. You know,
Speaker 1: they've been gone on for three weeks and they're both
Speaker 1: inspiring and the government response and crackdown has been horrifying.
Speaker 1: And you know, we talked on here a lot about
Speaker 1: lack of America's lack of revolutionary imagination, and I feel
Speaker 1: like this is this is a good one to be
Speaker 1: paying attention to, especially because you look on any American
Speaker 1: news site and they are like there's like one article
Speaker 1: every six days, and most of it's like it's bad
Speaker 1: and we're not going to tell you about like class
Speaker 1: solidarity or anything that's occurring. Yeah, the New Yorker like
Speaker 1: it's a very much leaderless and the New Yorker like
Speaker 1: did this profile of a Air America, which I'm pretty
Speaker 1: sure is like the CIA radio station media, like somebody
Speaker 1: who works for Air America who They're like, this is
Speaker 1: who's really behind this thing? So you know the hand
Speaker 1: of the invisible hand of the CIA is always it's
Speaker 1: very busy, always working all of that plenty more. But first, Madisine,
Speaker 1: we like to ask our guest, what is something from
Speaker 1: your search history? Okay? So I was looking and I
Speaker 1: was like, what do I mostly google stuff for work?
Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, I write on a countdown
Speaker 1: show for Roku, and so it's like David Beckham has
Speaker 1: a show coming out, so it's like a number of
Speaker 1: times David Beckham won a World World Series I don't know,
Speaker 1: championships or whatever. Yes, whatever you want. Okay. So the
Speaker 1: last thing that I googled where I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. A couple of days ago, I googled Hong
Speaker 1: Kong coffin and cage apartments, which are these horrifying like
Speaker 1: dwellings in Hong Kong, and they have them in other
Speaker 1: cities to where it's essentially like they you know, imagine
Speaker 1: like you know, like on a tour of us hell,
Speaker 1: they'll have like, you know, basically bunk beds that are
Speaker 1: like little capsules, and like folks will have like you know,
Speaker 1: their charge or their headphone or whatever. Imagine living in
Speaker 1: something that size during a pandemic with a country that
Speaker 1: like super duper locks people down and you literally can't leave.
Speaker 1: It was like a crazy like eye opening thing. But
Speaker 1: on the look at the pictures of this point of view,
Speaker 1: pictures actual point of view, not TikTok point of view
Speaker 1: which just means everything, but actual like pictures taken by
Speaker 1: people sitting in their coffin apartments, and it's giving me
Speaker 1: a panic attack. And of course, like you know, these
Speaker 1: are like truly people who cannot afford to pay for
Speaker 1: more space, like this is literally using up most of
Speaker 1: their income to pay for these like literal coffins. But
Speaker 1: the flip side of that, which I found interesting is
Speaker 1: there is luxury cage apartments which are similar, but they
Speaker 1: are like I'm sorry, what how is uh? I mean?
Speaker 1: I get, but as a binary I would rather be
Speaker 1: in a cage than a coffin. But immediately my mind
Speaker 1: doesn't go, of course, a luxury cage home like what
Speaker 1: what is a loom picturing? I'm picturing where where Hannibal
Speaker 1: Lecter is housed at the end of at the end
Speaker 1: of Sounds of the Lambs, He's in that big loft
Speaker 1: space with like classical music playing and land being served
Speaker 1: to him inside a cage. I'm guessing that's not what
Speaker 1: we're dealing with here. It looks like the you know
Speaker 1: in the movie Fifth Element when they have to go
Speaker 1: to the like this and go into the little bed.
Speaker 1: It looks like that. It looks like the airport hotel
Speaker 1: looks like, yeah, yeah, it's it's but it's luxury, so
Speaker 1: people more for luxury. It's wild though, too, like that,
Speaker 1: because this is all obviously because we have a housing
Speaker 1: crisis like globally, and then like the options are like, well,
Speaker 1: obviously you've been priced out of the traditional home market.
Speaker 1: Might I are for you a fucking cage? What's are
Speaker 1: the fucking names here? Like where we even like this
Speaker 1: is I mean, look shouts to them for not trying
Speaker 1: to paint it any other way. They're like, motherfucker, this
Speaker 1: is a luxury cage, right, and that's that because it
Speaker 1: has led mood lighting. Yeah yeah, I mean usually usually
Speaker 1: the world of real estate come up with euphemisms, but
Speaker 1: cage is pretty that. I guess they were asleep at
Speaker 1: the wheel on that day, you know. They're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's a fucking cage, man. Stop stop
Speaker 1: asking me to come up with good spins to put
Speaker 1: on this ship. And I guess, like, and I want
Speaker 1: to say, I forgive me. This was a few days ago.
Speaker 1: But I think in like Tokyo they have a version
Speaker 1: of it that is actually luxury. And it's like in
Speaker 1: places like Howarduku and stuff, where like the rent is
Speaker 1: mad expensive, but even the cage apartment has been elevated
Speaker 1: to be the cost of a regular size apartment. Very crazy.
Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of capsule hotels or capsule
Speaker 1: that's see, that's the thing in Japan called capsule apartment.
Speaker 1: It's like living in a fucking bill, you know, the
Speaker 1: same size as a pill. But yeah, it is. It's
Speaker 1: just it's wild that like we're constantly just figure out
Speaker 1: like ways to just be like have less of a
Speaker 1: functioning life and like learning how to deal with that
Speaker 1: rather than like being like no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no. I mean, like I like the
Speaker 1: problem we're trying to solve here, but god, we've really
Speaker 1: got to be moving the other way and being like
Speaker 1: we need to get people in regular ass houses. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's only a matter of time before
Speaker 1: that's commonplace here, you know. Oh yeah, I mean we're
Speaker 1: already seeing it with a lot of the like sort
Speaker 1: of shared apartment like we work type live like work
Speaker 1: cult spaces or whatever. I know someone who stayed in one.
Speaker 1: They said it was fine, but they didn't stay there
Speaker 1: for more than like a couple of weeks. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure they got the full like feeling of being And
Speaker 1: I don't know, like the way it's always marketed is
Speaker 1: like the goals who buy up all the housing are
Speaker 1: like it sounds like young people really like these like
Speaker 1: like luxury prison setups. Now, yeah, hey, the young kids
Speaker 1: go over there and that's in gen Z Block that
Speaker 1: they have to go to, and it's like, wow, that
Speaker 1: was good. Once he's get to America, I can see
Speaker 1: real estate agents going to work and just being like
Speaker 1: this cozy and snug is a bug well is replete
Speaker 1: with amenities and so ho adjace. You know, in East
Speaker 1: Hollywood they have this apartment set up where it's a
Speaker 1: two or three bedroom apartment and essentially they pair you
Speaker 1: with roommates. But they're calling it like just like shared
Speaker 1: living or something. They have like some weird euphemism for it,
Speaker 1: But I'm like, you're basically just like renting a room
Speaker 1: with three strangers. You don't know it's a boarding more.
Speaker 1: It's very strange, yes, exactly. Oh you know, it's it
Speaker 1: has already arrived here. There are people who are just
Speaker 1: straight up Now there's an article California startup offers affordable
Speaker 1: capsule pods in shared living accommodation. Yeah, so they they've
Speaker 1: gone with the capsule pod wording to you know, make
Speaker 1: it more attractive. It's just weird. How like we're truly
Speaker 1: like in these two paths where there's like traditional you know,
Speaker 1: luxury for the wealthy, and how like that keeps getting
Speaker 1: more fucking ridiculous. But now we're also like trying to
Speaker 1: like luxurify people like not having access either. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like you can have luxury as well in your
Speaker 1: place of little options and essentially like people with wealth
Speaker 1: like cause playing to be poor. It's nothing new, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, They do it in different ways,
Speaker 1: but this is just like a fun new iteration of
Speaker 1: it that's like barf inducing what a time? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: what do you do a filone? Like farts? Are their
Speaker 1: rules about that? Because if you have a company or
Speaker 1: you want to, i don't know, stand up not be
Speaker 1: laying down. That shows you I don't have a very uh.
Speaker 1: I wasn't much of a lothario back in the day.
Speaker 1: I was mostly always farting in most is what about farts?
Speaker 1: What about farts? Are you is this pro fart? Or
Speaker 1: do I have to think this is designed for sharing
Speaker 1: this space at all? Like, I don't think they even
Speaker 1: crusted anyone's mind when they're doing this. So I think
Speaker 1: what you're worried about is your own farts in this case?
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say? Also? Okay, okay, well look
Speaker 1: let's cover that in our next session. Telling you that
Speaker 1: spices on your fingertips one thing out of time. Look,
Speaker 1: you told me spice some one of the fingers will
Speaker 1: stop my farting. It didn't. What is something you think
Speaker 1: is overrated in Madison? I think cottage core is overrated.
Speaker 1: Like cottage core is like basically, I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: style of dress, but it's also like an entire lifestyle.
Speaker 1: It's basically going back to like you know, old school,
Speaker 1: little house on the prairie, simple living, living off the grid,
Speaker 1: you know, making your own bread, your own butter, living
Speaker 1: off your trust fund. Basically, Because wasn't there like one
Speaker 1: of those people who were there, like yo, like I
Speaker 1: felt there was a cottage core influencer, people like this
Speaker 1: person has a lot of money, Like so they're not
Speaker 1: actually I mean like as they are living off the land,
Speaker 1: they are also have a massive financial safety net. I mean,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I mean it's crazy. There's a girl who
Speaker 1: I follow who's like, I live in this cottage in
Speaker 1: a mountain range and it's like the mountain is owned
Speaker 1: by her family. Oh is that the one in Europe?
Speaker 1: You know she's in Washington. I mean she's a gay girl.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, girl, get out of here. I understand
Speaker 1: like Cassandra Olympia and Cascadia, but wait, what are we
Speaker 1: going to say about it? I just I just think
Speaker 1: it's weird. I think it you know. I understand like
Speaker 1: wanting to live more simply, like my my family, My
Speaker 1: grandmother lived in a trailer in West Texas. I know
Speaker 1: about living simply and just having to like make your
Speaker 1: own food and like go get the water and like
Speaker 1: what you know, all these kind of things. But I
Speaker 1: think it's like it I worry sometimes like is this
Speaker 1: a hop skip and a jump away from like being
Speaker 1: anti feminist like odd wive, like barefoot and pregnant in
Speaker 1: the house of no electricity nothing right now, it's mostly
Speaker 1: like a feminine aesthetic, like the cottage core. We're not
Speaker 1: seeing like bro cottage core yet, where it's like we're
Speaker 1: a cottage core a couple and he's out there drinking
Speaker 1: his homemade mead and swinging in ax. That's Portland's That's
Speaker 1: that's portlandt that's actually right there. Yeah, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: any style that is based on that just completely coops
Speaker 1: like a version of history is probably I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like fashion is where we get to like
Speaker 1: maybe pull some elements from history, but then combine them
Speaker 1: to make something new and interesting. But if it's just
Speaker 1: you know, if it's just like colonial Jamestown or you know,
Speaker 1: people people cause playing, I feel like that that's a
Speaker 1: that's a waste of a fashion movement. Personally, it's just
Speaker 1: it's elements of whimsy. It's not a fetishization of fashion
Speaker 1: or history. Looking back on even like rockabilly style, like
Speaker 1: when I was a teenager in the early Acts, there
Speaker 1: was a lot of like rockabilly looks and we were
Speaker 1: really harkening back to the fifties. But like as an adult,
Speaker 1: I'm like looking back, and I'm like, oh, you mean
Speaker 1: where they like hose down your grandmother? Where where like
Speaker 1: dad was born in the colored section of the hospital.
Speaker 1: You mean that that fifties association with these outfits isn't
Speaker 1: the most the warmest of memories. It's usually them screaming
Speaker 1: in someone's face and a German shepherd like on a leash,
Speaker 1: fucking like children. Yeah, like that's what I but okay,
Speaker 1: that's it's funny though, too, Like even with like the
Speaker 1: fast wave haircut, you know, like wh when everybody was
Speaker 1: getting like the Hitler youth like like fascist hair and
Speaker 1: it was like super fashionable at a time, and it
Speaker 1: took a few people with like some historical eyeballs like
Speaker 1: this is like y'all are just doing like Hitler youth haircuts,
Speaker 1: just so you know, And then it became then like
Speaker 1: suddenly like every conservatives like yes I am fascist, now,
Speaker 1: thank you. I've like it's not like you led to
Speaker 1: the real reckoning of like gender norms or something progressive.
Speaker 1: And I can't imagine that, you know, if I saw
Speaker 1: people dressed up and you know, just like when we
Speaker 1: see this ship on Airbnb or like hey, stay in
Speaker 1: a slave cottage I'm no, no, no, no, no, Like,
Speaker 1: don't even offer the people the idea that they that
Speaker 1: they're interacting with such a sordid time and history. But look,
Speaker 1: cottages are fine, you know, get your gunny stack on.
Speaker 1: I guess you know. I mean you can also get
Speaker 1: married at plantations and stuff like. That's. Yeah, it's weird
Speaker 1: to me that the like in America, we don't treat
Speaker 1: plantations sites or sites of former plantations like they do
Speaker 1: Holocaust memorials like in Germany. Like it's not dissimilar. It's
Speaker 1: actually quite worse in a lot of ways. I mean
Speaker 1: not I don't actually need to wait into that, but
Speaker 1: it's horrible all both. But we don't even acknowledge that,
Speaker 1: like these atrocities happened here. Oh yeah, so weird. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like, man, remember like simpler times like the
Speaker 1: dog whistle conservatives talk about all the time, like you
Speaker 1: know how when things were simpler, easier times, And it's like, well,
Speaker 1: sure for you. Yeah. I'm also not saying that the
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to compare Holocaust. I just want to
Speaker 1: be clear about that. I'm just saying that our country
Speaker 1: has no chadow. Slavery was fucking brutal, and but when
Speaker 1: we see the sights of those crimes, we do our
Speaker 1: first as a country. The first instinct isn't to go,
Speaker 1: oh my god, take you know, take a moment to
Speaker 1: reflect here. It's like, girl, go run by those fucking columns.
Speaker 1: I love this. This is where the fucking chariot would
Speaker 1: pull up. Yeah, They're like, take pictures for your Instagram here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which I mean to be honest, look, that's just happening.
Speaker 1: Also at Holocaust memorials are people have no fucking decency
Speaker 1: or concept of like decorum where people are like planking
Speaker 1: on top of my wild didn't Ryan Reynolds, America's most
Speaker 1: likable man, get married in on a plantation. Yeah to
Speaker 1: his wife, Blake Lively, he's Canadian man. See he's trouble.
Speaker 1: I knew it. Yeah, I mean Canadians weren't that innocent
Speaker 1: during that time. Both about that, both colonizing freaks out here.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated? Something this is
Speaker 1: more reflective of what I'm going through as a as
Speaker 1: a person. But something I think is underrated is not
Speaker 1: posting on the internet like we don't need to see.
Speaker 1: Don't let me put it on I don't let me
Speaker 1: say I I don't need to share my hot takes, feelings, thoughts,
Speaker 1: emotions about every subject that comes on the Internet. I
Speaker 1: mean I went so far, like I'm just I've had
Speaker 1: just like a moment where I was like, let me
Speaker 1: shut up some Also, the internet is so bad for me,
Speaker 1: Like I deleted my Twitter, I deleted my Facebook. I
Speaker 1: only have I G and I sometimes scroll TikTok. But
Speaker 1: it's like I don't need to, like I'm only using
Speaker 1: it for promo now, and so I just think like
Speaker 1: shutting the funk up is just incredibly overrated in general
Speaker 1: in society today, giving yourself the ability to be like
Speaker 1: I don't I get that right now, Like we're so
Speaker 1: especially on social media, it's like we're just in like
Speaker 1: that fucking take economy. I got to participate in there
Speaker 1: with my take. And I'm the same way, like I
Speaker 1: get overwhelmed pretty quickly, like going on social media and
Speaker 1: ship like that where I've definitely had to like throttleship
Speaker 1: back or I can do it in like waves, but yeah,
Speaker 1: it is it. I slowly did lose the earth, Like
Speaker 1: I used to have like a compulsion to want to
Speaker 1: post something and over time, I think that's diminished. Whether
Speaker 1: that's through like just becoming older and maybe more like
Speaker 1: secure in who I am and I'm like less having
Speaker 1: to prove myself through like my wit on the internet,
Speaker 1: or maybe it's the anxiety I get from having to
Speaker 1: interact or see a bunch of funked up ship too.
Speaker 1: It's who knows, But yeah, I definitely agree. You know
Speaker 1: what I find helps is um just podcast for two
Speaker 1: hours a day and then you get it all out
Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, exactly. I mean it's true, like since
Speaker 1: we started doing the show, I I post less and
Speaker 1: less and a lot of the times I like a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff I would share from my personal life.
Speaker 1: I talked so much about my life on the podcast.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back and we're back. And usually we don't talk
Speaker 1: a lot about a lot of international news because the
Speaker 1: this show is about the Americans, like Geist, and the Americans,
Speaker 1: like Geist is very difficult to puncture, a k. A
Speaker 1: ignorant the Americans, like Guist doesn't pay a ton of
Speaker 1: attention to news around the world. But I think the
Speaker 1: uprisings in Iran are incredibly worthy of our attention for
Speaker 1: for a number of reasons. And yeah, so, I mean
Speaker 1: we we've talked about it in passing, but just to
Speaker 1: kind of yeah, because there's I mean, I think there's
Speaker 1: a couple of versions that you could interact with the story.
Speaker 1: On one is, you might just see rampant violence in Iran,
Speaker 1: like with the government attacking protesters, or you see people
Speaker 1: cutting their women, cutting their hair and protest, and you
Speaker 1: might say, oh, wow, people are angry. Huh, And then
Speaker 1: you might just keep scrolling past and that's the most
Speaker 1: that you'll ingest from that. And you know, in Iran
Speaker 1: is a place where there have been revolution or like
Speaker 1: these kinds of mass uprisings before, so people might get
Speaker 1: into the rhythm of oh, they're having an uprising. I'm
Speaker 1: you know, Oh, I can just now put that to
Speaker 1: the back of my mind. But just I think it's
Speaker 1: important to understand just like the totality of what's happening
Speaker 1: right now, because it obviously the protests began as a
Speaker 1: response to the death of two year old Zena Massa Mini,
Speaker 1: who you know, died at the hands of Iran's more
Speaker 1: morality police, and they insisted that this was they had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with it. She wasn't beaten to death,
Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's despite witnesses saying they saw
Speaker 1: the complete contrary occurring. And just for some context, right,
Speaker 1: it's important to know the sequence of leadership in Iran
Speaker 1: at present. The country is ruled by a theocratic government
Speaker 1: that came to power after or the US. The last
Speaker 1: US backed Shaw was ousted in the nineteen seventy nine revolution.
Speaker 1: The reason that Shaw was backed by the United States
Speaker 1: is because of Western greed. So prior to the Shah
Speaker 1: being installed, Iran was being led by this Prime Minister,
Speaker 1: Mohammed Mossadegg, who was very popular, Like people were like, yes, this,
Speaker 1: we we support this guy because he had policies like
Speaker 1: you know, trying to uplift people and because of the
Speaker 1: massive amounts of oil that Iran has in their land.
Speaker 1: They're also like, you know what, we need to actually
Speaker 1: nationalize our oil industry, so we are the ones who
Speaker 1: are reaping the benefits of this oil being pumped, rather
Speaker 1: than the Brits who are here under this like convoluted
Speaker 1: agreement which we're not getting a fair share out of
Speaker 1: the resources that are coming out of our own lands.
Speaker 1: And so when he decided to nationalize the industry, the
Speaker 1: British you know, it came to the CIA and they're like, yo,
Speaker 1: we gotta fucking this is a problem. Like if if
Speaker 1: we have no access to this, this is lucrative, this
Speaker 1: is not this is not the order of things that
Speaker 1: we want. So he was ousted in a CIA backed
Speaker 1: coup in nineteen fifty three led by Kermit Roosevelt, who
Speaker 1: I believe is the grandson of Teddy Roosevelt or nephew.
Speaker 1: So then the show was installed, and he welcomed foreign
Speaker 1: meddling in the oil industry as well as running a
Speaker 1: repressive government that basically struck down descent and exploited labor.
Speaker 1: So all of this was happening, and then you know,
Speaker 1: when the seventy nine Revolution comes, you know, these religious
Speaker 1: leaders are promising a new vision of Iran, one where
Speaker 1: like workers like workers centric, like we understand like this
Speaker 1: isn't like the show exploiting people, like we want to
Speaker 1: level things up, but a lot of those things didn't
Speaker 1: come to pass come to pass. So again, like I said,
Speaker 1: this isn't the first time that like this has happened.
Speaker 1: And you know, even in this century, right recently, the
Speaker 1: most notable uprisings have been in twenty nineteen in response
Speaker 1: to gas prices, which is more of a worker led
Speaker 1: uprising uh and in two thousand nine during the Green
Speaker 1: movement that was more of a middle class, upper middle
Speaker 1: class educated people's movement. But this time things feel different,
Speaker 1: not just to observers but to the people in Iran.
Speaker 1: They began spontaneously, mostly in Iranian Kurdistan, but then quickly
Speaker 1: to other cities, and typically the protests around wearing like
Speaker 1: head covering has been in places like northern Tehran or
Speaker 1: other metropolitan areas, and was like a middle class like
Speaker 1: a middle class movement or was represented by more middle
Speaker 1: class people. And and and it's important to note that class,
Speaker 1: the class representation here amongst many other dimensions of this uprising,
Speaker 1: because the meaning is from this place called Saks, which
Speaker 1: is a very working class area where Kurds are already
Speaker 1: facing an uphill battle as like an ethnic minority. So
Speaker 1: what we're seeing now is going beyond like this initial killing,
Speaker 1: and obviously the increased violence is only motivating people more.
Speaker 1: But now we're seeing that it's a very intersectional movement
Speaker 1: involving numerous classes, ethnicities, and even religious beliefs. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's like a really that's a huge aspect of it
Speaker 1: that I don't every like anything I see out out
Speaker 1: of Algebra, al Jazeera or like a very like a
Speaker 1: like a socialist like world news outlet. You're not going
Speaker 1: to hear about like these other dimensions that are going on.
Speaker 1: Obviously every dimension is just as important, but it's it
Speaker 1: seems like Western media sort of picks and chooses what
Speaker 1: to focus on. Yeah, it's it feels very easy for
Speaker 1: them to just other these people rather than focus on
Speaker 1: like they're there a lot of the protesters who are
Speaker 1: so one of the notable things is it's really led
Speaker 1: by women in the streets just protesting by showing their
Speaker 1: like not wearing the thing that the government wants them
Speaker 1: to wear, and just being free and dancing and but
Speaker 1: it's leaderless, and I think that is that is one
Speaker 1: way the US government is like trying or the US
Speaker 1: mainstream media is just like you know, they're trying to
Speaker 1: impose leadership on it. The government is trying to attack
Speaker 1: it by like taking and kidnapping and in some cases
Speaker 1: reportedly like murdering these like really bright some of the
Speaker 1: brightest students in Iran who are involved in the protest,
Speaker 1: because it is like there's a lot of young people
Speaker 1: involved in the movement and these are you know leaders
Speaker 1: in like world leaders of tomorrow and in America of
Speaker 1: tomorrow who are being you know killed. And that's also
Speaker 1: not something that is getting covered in the mainstream. It's
Speaker 1: just it's very easy for the mainstream media in the
Speaker 1: West to just other them and the story sort of
Speaker 1: fades into the background. Does trouble in other country? You know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think just like to your point, right, like the
Speaker 1: US version is like trouble in Uran again, people aren't
Speaker 1: happy because their government's bad, and then it's like that's
Speaker 1: the end of it. And I think what's really fucked
Speaker 1: up too is like the people in the government who
Speaker 1: like love the like sanctions on Iran might think that
Speaker 1: their plan is coming together that you know, dip driving
Speaker 1: the everyday iranian of like resources, medicine, food will get
Speaker 1: them to destabilize their current government, which is like the
Speaker 1: thinking right, it's like, hey, man, if it gets bad enough,
Speaker 1: they're gonna do something about it, and we can you know,
Speaker 1: we can play dirty like that. But the funked up
Speaker 1: part of that is too. Because of that, it allows
Speaker 1: like the current government to just sort of paint this
Speaker 1: as sometimes inauthentic, to say, like, you see, this is
Speaker 1: because of Western meddling, this is because of this or that,
Speaker 1: when it truly is just so widespread that they're actually
Speaker 1: at a point now where they really aren't sure what
Speaker 1: to do. Because typically the the ebb and flow would
Speaker 1: be well, you come out, you know, be a super violent,
Speaker 1: quell the fucking uprising, and then move on. But what
Speaker 1: we're seeing, I think has a much different texture to it,
Speaker 1: and from many other people who consistently write about this
Speaker 1: and report on it there, like this has a much
Speaker 1: different feeling to it because of how like, you know, widespread, uh,
Speaker 1: the anger is and it's not just you know, relegated
Speaker 1: to like one segment of the society. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so interesting to me, like like all I'm seeing,
Speaker 1: so all I see on like my ads on YouTube
Speaker 1: are promotions, I guess, or messages like commercials from women
Speaker 1: in Israel being like we support Iranian women and like,
Speaker 1: which is like lovely, but I don't understand why I'm
Speaker 1: seeing it here because whatever, but that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 1: But also all I see is it's just like repost
Speaker 1: from like white women. So like I think, I think,
Speaker 1: like from my and my algorithm, my timeline, how it's
Speaker 1: being given to me is literally that it's just like
Speaker 1: a women's right issue, a women's rights issue, which in
Speaker 1: this country is they're like, oh, pooh, pooh, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I remember when you guys used to
Speaker 1: march in the streets a couple of years ago. Oh, well,
Speaker 1: like it's done, like your rights don't matter, we're still
Speaker 1: actively taking them. So I think it's getting painted with
Speaker 1: this like I guess, like a pink brush where they're
Speaker 1: just like, oh, this is women's stuff, and yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: like they aren't taking it as serious lee because it's
Speaker 1: mostly women who are being outspoken. And then also that's
Speaker 1: all that's being fed to me, like as just like
Speaker 1: an average well I guess I'm not really that average
Speaker 1: American woman, but like, just like a regular person, algorithm
Speaker 1: has deemed a regular American media consumer, right They painting
Speaker 1: it with a pink brush is an interesting way to
Speaker 1: think of it as like a divide and conquer sort of.
Speaker 1: This is a this issue that you only need to
Speaker 1: care about if you like wear pink for breast Breast
Speaker 1: Cancer Awareness Month or you know, like the like the
Speaker 1: things that when we talk about the lack of a
Speaker 1: revolutionary imagination United States, like the things that we're seeing
Speaker 1: here that I feel like should inform how we think about,
Speaker 1: you know, organizing and moving into the United States is
Speaker 1: the like Miles said, the intersectionality, the cooperation, like labor
Speaker 1: is now threatening to strike around oil, which is something
Speaker 1: that obviously the you know, the government can't ignore. And
Speaker 1: what what is being painted and portrayed in a lot
Speaker 1: of cases is this like social justice movement is actually
Speaker 1: spreading and there's cooperation between labor and you know, the
Speaker 1: Koords and women women across classes and but but yeah,
Speaker 1: getting labor involved, you can't like the government can't kidnap
Speaker 1: their way out of people not working to like make
Speaker 1: a functioning. They'll try, like they'll try to. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's there like again, like there are just so
Speaker 1: many things simmering, you know, because even between the two
Speaker 1: thousand nine where you know, there was another activist who
Speaker 1: was killed and there was a huge outpouring of like
Speaker 1: anger over that. You know, people have continued to die
Speaker 1: protesting or be taken away and disappeared and shipped like that.
Speaker 1: So there, like this was it's just been constantly simmering,
Speaker 1: and now it's turning into a revolution. There was an
Speaker 1: interesting interview in Jacobin with this activist organized in Iran
Speaker 1: and just talking about how the demands like they're evolving,
Speaker 1: Like it started about like being about like liberty and
Speaker 1: body autonomy, and now we're talking like you have people
Speaker 1: now like fucking fighting the Islamic Republican Guard Corps like
Speaker 1: in some cases killing them, and they're now saying things
Speaker 1: like no, down with this, like theocracy, like down with
Speaker 1: like we want we want to now we want to
Speaker 1: move into something new. And it's again like but the
Speaker 1: government's cracked. The crackdown on this has just been to
Speaker 1: be just to turn up the volume on the violence
Speaker 1: and like behind all that too, like when you look
Speaker 1: at this sort of the disparity between the haves and
Speaker 1: have nots, there's plenty of normal working people who are saying, like,
Speaker 1: I'm I fucking lost family in the COVID, like during
Speaker 1: COVID because of the lack of medical resources that were
Speaker 1: there due to sanctions or just agreed of the regime whatever.
Speaker 1: There are many things that are that are adding up
Speaker 1: to our anger. And like while we have these people
Speaker 1: in like the ruling class are able to like live
Speaker 1: lives that are more akin to like you know, huge
Speaker 1: cities in Western Europe, like sending their kids abroad to
Speaker 1: be educated and things like that, and it's all just
Speaker 1: becoming a lot. And I just want to read this
Speaker 1: quote from UM. This activist she I think just gave
Speaker 1: her first name, which is part and Day, and she
Speaker 1: said this, Um, the Iranian public is intelligent. We know
Speaker 1: when we are being taken advantage of. This is not
Speaker 1: an uprising but a revolution. They are killing Bassig's, which
Speaker 1: are members of one of the like sort of elements
Speaker 1: of the Islamic Republican Guard. They are standing in the
Speaker 1: face of the army and saying death to the dictator,
Speaker 1: death to Hamani, death to the Islamic Republic. They're tearing
Speaker 1: down and burning down, burning images of Imam Pomani, rock
Speaker 1: bar and cost them Soleimani, who was the guy the
Speaker 1: Kods Division Islamic Republican guard like sort of leader that
Speaker 1: was killed in a drone. Striking women are shaving their heads,
Speaker 1: removing their veils, shouting in the faces of the revolutionary
Speaker 1: guards and morality police. They're standing in front of tanks,
Speaker 1: fire hoses, machine guns, and tear gas. We have only
Speaker 1: rocks and our fists to fight with. We are one
Speaker 1: of the bravest groups of people on the planet. I'm
Speaker 1: really convinced of it. I would say, for now the
Speaker 1: goal of the average protester would be a revolution resulting
Speaker 1: in a transition to democracy, but of course it is
Speaker 1: subject to change as these protests carry on, which I
Speaker 1: think they will. Fuck Yeah, all I gotta say is like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: more of that. Yeah, like you are you are the brave,
Speaker 1: Like honestly, when to look like she goes on this
Speaker 1: interview to say, it's a really haunting like line, I
Speaker 1: just want to uh. She said, We've been encouraged for
Speaker 1: forty three years to look into the barrel of a
Speaker 1: gun and see paradise and to die with smiles on
Speaker 1: our faces. Why are they surprised now that my generation
Speaker 1: is fearless. We were born prepared for fighting and have
Speaker 1: no qualms about death. It's it's haunting to you know,
Speaker 1: because like underneath that bravery, which is I'm taken aback
Speaker 1: by that to hear someone say I have no option
Speaker 1: but to fight for something better than what I have Now,
Speaker 1: it's like there are these underpinnings two of just like
Speaker 1: how Western imperialism has contributed to this situation decades ago,
Speaker 1: and these people have had to constantly fight to the
Speaker 1: point that like again in her words, death is not
Speaker 1: something they fear. Yeah, it's just it's all like it's
Speaker 1: this all encompassing sort of uprising. And again it makes
Speaker 1: sense why you go to like ABC News or NBC
Speaker 1: News and the things are just about like you know
Speaker 1: there's tensions or that you know, this is this is
Speaker 1: what the Supreme Leader is now saying in response to things,
Speaker 1: rather than trying to inform people that there's all of
Speaker 1: these things that have contributed that. The thing I think
Speaker 1: most of the times we do news seekers the disservice
Speaker 1: of never explaining how we get to a point it's
Speaker 1: just like and that's happening in a vacuum. All right,
Speaker 1: back to you, Aaron Judge, just Man Mollet sixty two
Speaker 1: home runs, rather than Hey, why don't you go? I mean, like,
Speaker 1: there's plenty of plenty of forks in the road you
Speaker 1: could talk about. But again, you have the perfect opportunity
Speaker 1: to talk about how the CIA backed coup sort of
Speaker 1: began this countdown for a country that, again at the time,
Speaker 1: was just trying to say, we have natural resources that
Speaker 1: the West is trying to exploit. How about you give
Speaker 1: us our fair share rather than it's like seventy split
Speaker 1: that we're being offered. And that was like, not fuck it,
Speaker 1: We're throwing you out. The right to use their own
Speaker 1: natural resources is the and the CIA was like, no,
Speaker 1: we can't allow that, and killed people to make it
Speaker 1: so that they couldn't allow that, so that so that
Speaker 1: they could get companies basically a better deal and ownership
Speaker 1: of of those national natural resources. Yeah America, man, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I When I hear stories like this, I'm just like,
Speaker 1: what will it take in our country to have that
Speaker 1: sort of like revolutionary action, Like I'm just like, what
Speaker 1: is it going to take for us to get to
Speaker 1: that point, because I mean we're obviously not in a
Speaker 1: the exact situation of you know, the people in Iran,
Speaker 1: but like we're not not like we're close, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, when are we going to wake
Speaker 1: up and understand that, like we use the people have
Speaker 1: more power collectively to like act and make change happen.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, I think that's probably a part of
Speaker 1: the reason why it's being undercovered and like not put
Speaker 1: into the perspective like thinking of it as women fighting
Speaker 1: for bodily autonomy can form the foundation of a revolution
Speaker 1: for social justice that like intersects with you know, a
Speaker 1: minority group that has been persecuted traditionally, like the Kurds,
Speaker 1: that includes labor and people just wanting, you know, to
Speaker 1: be able to feed their families. If you treat it
Speaker 1: as a recipe for you know, social change and you
Speaker 1: know relevant it compared it to what you know, different
Speaker 1: movements that are happening in the US, and like really
Speaker 1: a way to rethink how those movements could could work together.
Speaker 1: But instead it really seems like they're trying to find
Speaker 1: ways to sight in that energy off and I think
Speaker 1: it's our own egos as Americans. That keeps us from
Speaker 1: doing it right because we are so I'd say the
Speaker 1: biggest obstacle is American people owning, not necessarily owning, acknowledging
Speaker 1: the fact that they are they have been exploited at
Speaker 1: some level and things are bad. Yeah, too many people
Speaker 1: are like, I ain't getting exploded. You're talking about I'm
Speaker 1: not exploited. I got a job, I can do this.
Speaker 1: I'm not exploited. I'm not oppressed. And the difference. This
Speaker 1: is another really interesting quote from this woman. In this interview,
Speaker 1: she talks about what the similarities that she sees between
Speaker 1: Latin America and the in the Middle East in terms
Speaker 1: of their ability right because we're looking at like Luis
Speaker 1: R say, in Bolivia and people like that like coming
Speaker 1: up and you're like, whoa, yeah, they're people like are
Speaker 1: people are in their bag and they get what the
Speaker 1: stakes are. They get what the stakes are. She said,
Speaker 1: I find that Latin American in the Middle East have
Speaker 1: are similar that we both have been exploited. Our revolution
Speaker 1: are as people and have large gaps between their rich
Speaker 1: and peasant classes and are religiously devout. When thinking about
Speaker 1: the future of Irana, often look to Latin America for
Speaker 1: hope and inspiration, and there's a few elements there that
Speaker 1: I think aren't quite as vivid to American people as
Speaker 1: they are to people in the Middle East or Latin America. Right,
Speaker 1: because we've were convincing ourselves. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: energy spent on soothing people who are currently being exploited
Speaker 1: into believing they are not. Oh, I mean, in America's
Speaker 1: entire marketing plan from John p has been you're the greatest,
Speaker 1: You're the freest, you're the best. We fought to get
Speaker 1: away from the British and now everything is fine and
Speaker 1: the Nazis to them exactly. I mean, also, you know,
Speaker 1: not to put it all on the people, but like
Speaker 1: our government goes out of its motherfucking way to quell
Speaker 1: any and all like revolutionary groups for good and for bad, right,
Speaker 1: like the CIA was all in the January six like
Speaker 1: group chats and like Facebook groups like heavily involved getting
Speaker 1: involved trying to like stop January six from happening or
Speaker 1: understanding what was happening, as well as like how they
Speaker 1: treated like the Black Panthers and hell, I mean, Arita
Speaker 1: Franklin apparently had like a forty year surveillance file from
Speaker 1: the government, because she just wanted black people to be liberated.
Speaker 1: Like we have such a powerful machine that's like keeping
Speaker 1: us in place and like not able to rise to that.
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting when that well. And I
Speaker 1: think that's and I think this is what's happened. I
Speaker 1: think we're seeing this breakdown happen between the old ways
Speaker 1: of trying to convince people that everything's okay, or the
Speaker 1: old ways of stopping and uprising, or like they're just
Speaker 1: not working in the same way, you know, like for
Speaker 1: because like even in like I just think of in
Speaker 1: like the U S specifically, this like revival of the
Speaker 1: labor movement precisely comes because the they have not They
Speaker 1: can they can spend all this propaganda they want, but
Speaker 1: at a certain point, you're not at that job with
Speaker 1: the person who is looking at a fucked up situation
Speaker 1: and say, I fucking don't want this at all. And
Speaker 1: there's no amount of you know, propaganda or or Facebook
Speaker 1: posts or whatever that can change what your lived experiences.
Speaker 1: And I think that's the hard part is they can't.
Speaker 1: It's the only way to stop that is to actually
Speaker 1: meet people where they're at and meet their needs. So
Speaker 1: if that's not gonna happen, you're gonna increasingly you know,
Speaker 1: I have a group of people who are and this
Speaker 1: is where it gets dangerous looking for answers and solutions
Speaker 1: to what they're like. They're the cause of their lack
Speaker 1: as a human being. And that's where bad faith actors
Speaker 1: come in, and you know, fascists are like, what'd you
Speaker 1: say you need it? Oh, let me tell you who
Speaker 1: can solve this and who the bad guy is? Uh?
Speaker 1: And that's what currently I feel like, that's what where
Speaker 1: the knife saige we're on is what is the majority
Speaker 1: of people? What version of getting in back in touch
Speaker 1: with their power and their ability to advocate for better
Speaker 1: for themselves? Which perspective are they going to go for?
Speaker 1: The one that says we have to treat certain people
Speaker 1: worse because it's a zero sum game, or the version
Speaker 1: that is we're all people and we can fucking work
Speaker 1: together because there is enough. It's just the there only
Speaker 1: there's only the illusion that there isn't enough because we
Speaker 1: have too many people hoarding too much of the wealth.
Speaker 1: And that's and that's really what that's that's the fork
Speaker 1: in the road we're at right now and you see
Speaker 1: splitting off. There's people who definitely are picking one over
Speaker 1: the other, but the critical mass of where that ends up,
Speaker 1: I think is really you know, determinative where we end up,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And I think I think we do
Speaker 1: underestimate how much the CIA and the government or just
Speaker 1: the you know, our horny nous for the market as
Speaker 1: a nation just completely drench and every piece of information
Speaker 1: that we get like that, it's unless it's a zine
Speaker 1: or you know, a a socialist you know outlet, which
Speaker 1: are so few and so far between, Like just every
Speaker 1: part of the information economy is pushing in this one
Speaker 1: direction and so like it when when it comes to
Speaker 1: like our I think we said earlier, like you know,
Speaker 1: our ego as Americans to be like you know, not
Speaker 1: no Americans want to think of themselves as peasants. But
Speaker 1: they're also like not given the tools to really do
Speaker 1: that if if they're not going to like get a
Speaker 1: deep college education or you know something like that. Like
Speaker 1: it's the mainstream media is is really all pushing in
Speaker 1: the same direction as you know, what what the market
Speaker 1: and whatever is good for the upward era. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to say and I know we talked about,
Speaker 1: like the perceived lack of imagination for revolution, People do
Speaker 1: have it. I don't mean to say that no one
Speaker 1: understands in this country what the stakes are and is
Speaker 1: not willing to fight for it. It's just that we
Speaker 1: have been systematically fed like we exist in the most
Speaker 1: potent propaganda atmosphere on earth, and that's basically led to
Speaker 1: the amounts of confusion that again benefit the status quo.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why I think the parts that
Speaker 1: they're you know, the powers that be, aren't really understand
Speaker 1: ending when they get confused. And I was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: whoa aren't getting all this pushback on this other stuff.
Speaker 1: It's because you don't actually live in the same fucking
Speaker 1: world as the majority of people do. And it's that
Speaker 1: disconnect that, again I think will probably potentially be the
Speaker 1: end for people who overreach to exploit people or to
Speaker 1: not create more equitable terms for people, because they think
Speaker 1: that most people are just sitting idly by, satisfied with
Speaker 1: their lot in life, when many are not. Many are
Speaker 1: asking questions, many are trying to figure out what to do,
Speaker 1: and in many instances we're starting to see people organize. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, the one thing that this woman
Speaker 1: pond in this interview said, She's like, two Americans, do
Speaker 1: not call your senators or congress people and read some
Speaker 1: script about this. That is the last fucking thing we need.
Speaker 1: I've seen that on social media and it is the
Speaker 1: app So we do not need that of Congress. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's so fun. I'm glad that somebody is under
Speaker 1: standing that, like us, calling our oppressors to be like, well,
Speaker 1: we have a complaint about this isn't going to help
Speaker 1: people abroad or here. Yeah, upholding that status quo to
Speaker 1: keep us oppressed. What a brilliant thing to say. This
Speaker 1: woman is dope. Whoever she is, like, shouts to her,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah. Links off to this interview she had
Speaker 1: in Jacobin because it's really amazing, and I just I
Speaker 1: will read this last part because it's really just a
Speaker 1: good The last question they were just asked was you know,
Speaker 1: what is your hope for Iran? She said, My hope
Speaker 1: for Iran is simple. I want us to finally have
Speaker 1: a say in our own government. We were we were
Speaker 1: a monarchy from day one and faced invasions from multiple empires,
Speaker 1: the westbound oil on our land, finance to new monarchy
Speaker 1: and overthrew our elected prime minister in a British and
Speaker 1: American coup. Data we started a revolution that was hijacked
Speaker 1: to prevent the spread of communism and have now been
Speaker 1: stuck for fifty years. It is time we have a
Speaker 1: say in our livelihood without the interference of foreign powers.
Speaker 1: Whatever the Iranian masses choose, I will expect, I will accept.
Speaker 1: As I said before, the fight of leftists will be
Speaker 1: the same. We will still advocate for the working class,
Speaker 1: labor rights and so on. We deserve to be prosperous
Speaker 1: and independent. Yeah. I mean the fact that all the
Speaker 1: groups recognize that they're fighting for human rights and the
Speaker 1: same bodily autonomy and you know, being impressed by the
Speaker 1: same force like that. That is something that whenever there's
Speaker 1: a movement in the US quickly gets that that movement
Speaker 1: gets othered, you know, the US. The US version of
Speaker 1: this would have been, have a referendum, maybe lighten the
Speaker 1: morality police laws, and then address a one dimension of
Speaker 1: what people are asking about for change, and then just
Speaker 1: kind of keep it moving again. Treated as an extremist
Speaker 1: Kurdish movement, which is something that's happening, or a Western
Speaker 1: influenced movement. Yeah, just other the people as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1: And and then obviously like you know, some sort of propaganda,
Speaker 1: use of reports of violence to people feel unsafe. And
Speaker 1: also I mean like that we'll have to mention that
Speaker 1: there is just like in the Kuda thought. Just like
Speaker 1: in the US, this happens all the time with you know,
Speaker 1: dirty regimes. They like to have you know, plants in
Speaker 1: the protests, causing damage to make the move to try
Speaker 1: and discredit the movement. Same thing is happening, except these
Speaker 1: cops are so sloppy. They're like on camera fucking up
Speaker 1: mosques and ship and it's just like, dude, you're on camera.
Speaker 1: And then another thing I was really interesting is one
Speaker 1: of the like sort of local law enforcement people in
Speaker 1: the municipality was saying that, like the average age of
Speaker 1: people that they've detained is around fifteen years old. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's in one part, Like so this isn't like this
Speaker 1: is a this is a mass movement. And yeah, just
Speaker 1: again I can't I can't tell how much like I'm
Speaker 1: equal parts amazed, inspired, frightened by the bravery these people.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the city suation that these people have
Speaker 1: found themselves in and I think to not you know,
Speaker 1: for our for the version that American people are getting,
Speaker 1: when honestly, like to your point, matic's like we have
Speaker 1: a lot in common. We have more in common with
Speaker 1: oppressed people around the world than we do with the
Speaker 1: fucking one percenters in this country. You know, to then
Speaker 1: speed people, this like disingenuous summation of things, which is like, yeah, man, there,
Speaker 1: Rahani's bad at huh, all right, healing people, Let's keep
Speaker 1: it there, don't talk about anything else, don't give people
Speaker 1: any more texture to it. Yeah, alright, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break. We'll come right back, and we're back, and
Speaker 1: just briefly we wanted to talk about So Walmart built
Speaker 1: a creepy virtual reality toys tour in the Metaverse, and
Speaker 1: it features some of the best things an interactive world, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's in Roadblocks, marketed to gen Z and children, and yeah,
Speaker 1: it's called Walmart's Universe of Play. It allows kids to
Speaker 1: play games that feature some of the best selling toys
Speaker 1: this year, all while a magical blimp drops virtual toys
Speaker 1: on you from the sky. Everything about the Metaverse just
Speaker 1: makes me feel like I'm in hell. It's the parallels
Speaker 1: of like we just talked about this revolution mass uprising
Speaker 1: happening and in the US, like, hey, kids, put on
Speaker 1: these fucking reality changing goggles and live in this fucking
Speaker 1: space for a little bit. Huh yeah, where you get
Speaker 1: little treats. It's specifically designed to be like a little
Speaker 1: skinner box with a little treat trigger that drops little
Speaker 1: treats on you every regularly, not regularly, actually randomly so
Speaker 1: that you feel like you are can change the outcome
Speaker 1: is actually how they hear it. But it's blatantly a
Speaker 1: commercial targeting kids by enveloping them in a new immersive reality. Also,
Speaker 1: this relates to the earlier conversation about the casket apartments
Speaker 1: and cage apartments, because you know this is that that's
Speaker 1: the next step in in the whole idea of oh
Speaker 1: don't like what your I see, change what your eyes
Speaker 1: see with this product. Yeah, why would you need a
Speaker 1: whole entire living space where you can just go in here?
Speaker 1: And and I hate it so much. I mean I
Speaker 1: was like as a poor kid, I grew up very
Speaker 1: poor the nineties and the commercials during children's programming we're
Speaker 1: so uh gross and toxic and like eat this sugar.
Speaker 1: Buy this toy, your old one sucks. Get this bike,
Speaker 1: get this outfit. You need this. Push push push, like
Speaker 1: so much crazy advertising. And I think that to the point,
Speaker 1: like there are laws that have changed around how you
Speaker 1: can advertise to children because there were none, and now
Speaker 1: it's like, this is the loophole to those laws protect right,
Speaker 1: it's horrifying. There's no way they could own a blimp
Speaker 1: your Yeah, kids don't watch TV anymore. They're all court cutters,
Speaker 1: and so in addition to like YouTube ads, they're trying
Speaker 1: to find new ways to reach kids, and this is
Speaker 1: what they've come up with, and people are pointing out
Speaker 1: that it's illegal, like the like even the terms of
Speaker 1: service for these various VR products like say that you
Speaker 1: can't go in there if you're under thirteen. Oculust is
Speaker 1: for thirteen plus, so an easy our headset is for
Speaker 1: twelve and above. You know, HTC says that children should
Speaker 1: not be allowed to use it's VR headset HTC VV
Speaker 1: and or vibe. I actually don't know that, but then
Speaker 1: that didn't stop us from going in the A O
Speaker 1: L chat room. I mean, well, it's very it's very
Speaker 1: clear because Walmart, Walmart's little toy land Is has a
Speaker 1: bunch of stuff from pat patrol. Patrol is something that
Speaker 1: my four year old has already outgrown like that that's
Speaker 1: patrol is also just like cop propaganda. Yeah, also for
Speaker 1: very young kids. It's like the I think, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody goes through different things at different times, but like
Speaker 1: in in our household, like the birthday parties that we
Speaker 1: would go to for like it was like more three
Speaker 1: and four year old birthday parties were pot patrol and
Speaker 1: then the kids move on to other stuff. What's that
Speaker 1: p J what's the PJ? What's it? What's that PJ masks?
Speaker 1: EJ mask? Yeah, that's what my niece and nephews working with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my my youngest is really into p J Masks, even
Speaker 1: though he can't watch an entire episode because he finds
Speaker 1: it too scary, but he like he has all the costumes.
Speaker 1: It's these three kids who turn into superheroes at night
Speaker 1: in their pjs, their pajamas and fight fight crime at night,
Speaker 1: which I think it resonates with my four year old
Speaker 1: because he is does not sleep. He has whatever that
Speaker 1: gene is that only that? Yeah, Like he's like I
Speaker 1: need two points seven hours he doesn't need sleep, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like sitting there with him, like just watching him
Speaker 1: like stare back at me, just be like like like, oh,
Speaker 1: I could watch him go to sleep, But meanwhile, you're
Speaker 1: luck his older brother like falls asleep hours before him.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. But anyways, they're blade Like you can't tell
Speaker 1: me that you are advertising Paw Patrol characters to children
Speaker 1: over the age of twelve, Like that's it's just not happening.
Speaker 1: And even so that's too young. But the whole thing
Speaker 1: is just so VR on a dude, I've almost fucking
Speaker 1: walked through a like a plate glass sliding door with
Speaker 1: a VR headset once and that's me as a fucking
Speaker 1: wild you know, high out of his mind. But tell
Speaker 1: the truth, that's like being a small child. And if
Speaker 1: I can't have my ship together like that, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine like a six year old, like they're gonna know
Speaker 1: the boundaries outside of the headset, and like if they're
Speaker 1: in some fake gas toy store, they're gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: over here, run over here into the fucking stove or
Speaker 1: some ship. I don't know. I wouldn't be shocked if
Speaker 1: we don't see like a crime, like a big crime
Speaker 1: be committed because a kid was like, oh, I'm blaming
Speaker 1: it on VR because remember when like those girls murdered
Speaker 1: or attacked another girl and like blamed it on slender Man,
Speaker 1: which was just like stories they were reading on the internet.
Speaker 1: Like it's only a better kid before something like this
Speaker 1: is going to cause a child to have really not
Speaker 1: understand the reality works, and the internet is the Internet
Speaker 1: is already like social media is already a huge danger
Speaker 1: for children that like, children should not be using social
Speaker 1: media terrible, and this is like more immersive social media.
Speaker 1: It's basically what this creates. So it's very don't put
Speaker 1: that headset on don't put the headset on kids. Although
Speaker 1: I kind of want an Oculus, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm not I want that ship too, I don't want it. Look,
Speaker 1: I think the best part about that stuff is like
Speaker 1: it's given me a new way to watch TV because
Speaker 1: I remember, like there's like a theater mode and you
Speaker 1: can be like whoa much in this big movie? But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I love I love gadgets and ship. I
Speaker 1: just got into animal crossing in the Pandemic, so that's
Speaker 1: about as far as I've gotten. And I played another
Speaker 1: game called like middle Little mismisfortune or something. But like,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if I'm actually gonna be
Speaker 1: able to handle an oculus. I can't. I can't survive
Speaker 1: Mario Kart. I suck at it, right? So yeah, nice,
Speaker 1: well Addison, such a pleasure having you. Where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you? All that good stuff? So even
Speaker 1: though I don't like social media, but still, you know,
Speaker 1: follow your girl, because the people who hire me care
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Speaker 1: Madison Underscore Shepherd amazing and it is there a tweet
Speaker 1: or some other work of social media or media in
Speaker 1: general that you've been enjoying. So there's this kid on
Speaker 1: TikTok and Instagram called Sean McManus. He is a cast
Speaker 1: member of Beetlejuice on Broadway and he I don't know
Speaker 1: if you guys remember a couple of months ago there
Speaker 1: was a church in Texas who did an unauthorized version
Speaker 1: of Hamilton's or is basically like an infammation Hamilton's should
Speaker 1: be about Jesus and if you're like lgbt Q, like
Speaker 1: you are basically addicted to drugs, it's the same. It
Speaker 1: was very weird. Anyways, I got the ship suit out
Speaker 1: of them. But so this kid, John McManus does Patti
Speaker 1: Lapone impressions. Patti Lapone is a famous Broadway actress who
Speaker 1: is like a three time Tony winner. I believe, just
Speaker 1: an incredible talent. If you don't know, like look her up. Anyways,
Speaker 1: he does this crazy impression where he does like Patti
Speaker 1: Lapone like performing selections from the unauthorized Hamilton's and I
Speaker 1: don't know why it as the former theater kid. It
Speaker 1: tickles me to no end. It is hilarious. It's flat.
Speaker 1: It's like so camp and silly and literally I think
Speaker 1: about it like maybe once a week. I dropped the
Speaker 1: link in the chat. All right, you'll definitely yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a fun one awesome miles. Where can people find you
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Speaker 1: trash reality TV. Let's see some tweets that I like. First,
Speaker 1: one is from Corey at Cool Math Game Underscore tweeted,
Speaker 1: random guy, it's not a big deal, man, I just
Speaker 1: don't think it matters me pulling out a gun. The
Speaker 1: two main characters in a show called Veggie Tales are
Speaker 1: fruits and that doesn't matter to you. It's not a
Speaker 1: big deal, which I think about that. This one was
Speaker 1: another one from at Kona's later tweeted saying the body
Speaker 1: of Christ each time I give my dog a cracker,
Speaker 1: and then Dan to me at d H two Me
Speaker 1: tweeted levels of male friendship just met seems like a
Speaker 1: cool guy hung out twice. I got a buddy who
Speaker 1: go out on weekends, go out on weekends. I got
Speaker 1: a buddy who literally best friends. I got a buddy
Speaker 1: who known each other for life. I got this buddy
Speaker 1: who's so true. It seems like it seems like a
Speaker 1: nice guy. And I got this buddy. Yeah it seems
Speaker 1: like a cool guy. Yeah he seems cool. He seems
Speaker 1: like a cool guy. All right. You can find me
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore, Obra Iron, liking things like
Speaker 1: Kristen stock Doll tweet a screen cap of a news
Speaker 1: headline Kim taunts West by launching test missile over Japan,
Speaker 1: and she tweeted an interesting development in the Kim Kanye saga,
Speaker 1: which it was a story about North Korea. They just
Speaker 1: fired some missiles back in the sea too. Lap Cry
Speaker 1: Coffee tweeted me any costco requests husband who is out
Speaker 1: of deodorant, toothpaste and works next, Nope, I'm good. And
Speaker 1: then depths of Wikipedia depths of WICKI tweeted love how
Speaker 1: the kayak Wikipedia article has a section that's just roasting
Speaker 1: this child and apparently the picture the picture for kayaking
Speaker 1: is a child and the caption is child using oversized equipment.
Speaker 1: The kayak is floating too high, it is too wide
Speaker 1: for his hips and shoulders, and it is so deep
Speaker 1: that his bows hit the deck. His paddle is also
Speaker 1: too long. It is impossible for him to paddle efficiently
Speaker 1: and he will tire quickly hit His p f D
Speaker 1: is also large enough to slip off over his head
Speaker 1: well fastened. So it's just so. He just got mad
Speaker 1: when they saw this picture and just roasted this motherfucker.
Speaker 1: Who they But that's that's yeah exactly. I love that
Speaker 1: that personal rotation device. Well can wait too back, he though. Man. Yes, anyways,
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Speaker 1: We link off to the information that we talked about
Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as a song that we
Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think
Speaker 1: people might enjoy? Oh? Man? So I posted that video
Speaker 1: of the DJ three PCE trio that was at the
Speaker 1: wedding I was at over the weekend. Who they do
Speaker 1: was playing sacks and another dude on trombone just killing it,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were like, yo, what's the tracks.
Speaker 1: Some people thought it was too many zoos, which I
Speaker 1: know what you mean, because they would get down in
Speaker 1: the train stations in New York with their big berry sacks.
Speaker 1: Is I think they went to the new school, their
Speaker 1: jazz guys. But this actually is from this old track
Speaker 1: called Calabria by Roone. It's like an old house track.
Speaker 1: That's where that sack sample I believe is originally from.
Speaker 1: So listen to that, go back to the year of
Speaker 1: my high school graduation and Lebron James is as well,
Speaker 1: and just float away to Calabria by Rooms. Amazing. All right, Well,
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