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Speaker 1: You're right? By the way. That is a bridge that
Speaker 1: was like not only was it a bridge to like
Speaker 1: mains in terms of like mainstreaming, it was like the
Speaker 1: bridge for the end of the early nineties because that
Speaker 1: literally have the song came out and then Rapp completely
Speaker 1: changed after that, and I don't think that's a coincidence.
Speaker 1: And also that video directed that video was directed by
Speaker 1: Anton Ficula, who went on to do Training Day and
Speaker 1: lots of I mean that was like yeah. And then
Speaker 1: f Gary Gray who directed Friday and like you know,
Speaker 1: Fates of the Furious and Ship he directed the fantastic
Speaker 1: Voyage video. That's right. Yeah, It's crazy how because back
Speaker 1: then you could direct videos for like five years and
Speaker 1: live off it for another five and like that was
Speaker 1: That's why people are always like, oh, why didn't they
Speaker 1: cross over to movies? Well, they want to, but also
Speaker 1: you don't have to at that. Now you have to
Speaker 1: do You have to make a movie a music video
Speaker 1: and still pick up a shift at your day job.
Speaker 1: It's the landscape has completely out that content, baby, that's
Speaker 1: that's right. And Sweet Sweet Tent. Yeah, let who's like
Speaker 1: the last great like the director who went from music
Speaker 1: videos to film recent I mean it was the big
Speaker 1: crossover event for Michelle Peifer fans. I think dude, when
Speaker 1: she pulled up that chair in the video, I was like,
Speaker 1: holy that ship was hilarious. That he didn't hilarious but
Speaker 1: also very poignant. I was like, that's a moment right there.
Speaker 1: Creo didn't he didn't like that idea. Apparently, his original
Speaker 1: vision for that video was like just being shot on
Speaker 1: like a city street, I think, with like cars and people,
Speaker 1: like almost like a block party. And when the director
Speaker 1: pitched it to him, he was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I trust you do, do what you want to do.
Speaker 1: And he was very happy with it in retrospect, but
Speaker 1: at the time he was like very like iffy about it.
Speaker 1: And where it's that now, It's like that was like
Speaker 1: the defining video of and seriously, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: I went to see that movie in theaters as a
Speaker 1: teenager based solely off the strength of that song. It
Speaker 1: was disappointed, just like everybody else did the same thing. Yo,
Speaker 1: you know, it's even wilder. I've never seen the movie. Wow,
Speaker 1: I mean that is okay. That's the other thing about
Speaker 1: that period in the nineties, you could there were soundtracks
Speaker 1: that way out the movies. Yeah, I mean The Bodyguard
Speaker 1: was probably one of the exceptions where both like really
Speaker 1: did huge numbers. But like at the time, I remember
Speaker 1: the Spawn soundtrack was like a huge deal because it
Speaker 1: was this collaboration between techno artists and the big rock
Speaker 1: stars of that era. And the movie no one gave it.
Speaker 1: Who who still talks about it? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like nobody? Fortunately it was another one. Oh I don't
Speaker 1: know if you guys remember this as a deep cut angus.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that movie? Yeah, a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't when I bring it up. Incredible soundtrack had like
Speaker 1: every yeah that that had the Google Dolls before they
Speaker 1: switched from being like a band to a pop band,
Speaker 1: and like Weezer has a deep cut on there that
Speaker 1: never I don't think showed up. I think it was
Speaker 1: specifically for the album that I could be wrong about.
Speaker 1: I'm not as big of a Weezer fan as everybody else,
Speaker 1: but speaking of Google Dolls, City of Angels soundtrack really
Speaker 1: punched above its weight. Oh yeah, that's another one. It's
Speaker 1: not huge soundtrack. I think that even went like Platinum
Speaker 1: movie also soundtrack, huge soundtrack. Yeah, they were like I'm
Speaker 1: waiting to exhale another big soundtrack. Yeah, and obviously bas
Speaker 1: Lerman's Romeo and Juliet. You know you had to have
Speaker 1: that one that had two soundtracks that had a sequel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. They brought out like a second when they're like,
Speaker 1: here more songs from it. The only other time I
Speaker 1: think that happened after that was The Fast and the Furious.
Speaker 1: I think two soundtracks came out. There was one with
Speaker 1: like with like you know, job rule and and like
Speaker 1: everything that I Gotti produced. That was like the original soundtrack,
Speaker 1: and then they were like, oh, for those of you
Speaker 1: who don't like rap, here are the rock songs that
Speaker 1: we included. Here are the white song from fest Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they were like they were like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this movie crossed over too much, right, right, that's like
Speaker 1: a Boogie Nights had two soundtracks too, That's right, And
Speaker 1: that's another one. Yeah, what a time soundtracks the above
Speaker 1: the Rim soundtrack also that that was the only movie
Speaker 1: I saw on the strength of the entire soundtrack. But
Speaker 1: then Park soundtrack to Dangerous Minds was was the only
Speaker 1: one that like sold me just off a single song.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm not doing like I am
Speaker 1: going to see this movie if it's the last thing
Speaker 1: I do, because that song fucking goes What is something
Speaker 1: from your search history? Okay, so this is a billboard
Speaker 1: that I drove by recently, and I gasped when I
Speaker 1: saw it. There was a new thing this year if
Speaker 1: the Queen Mary called sh october Fest. Shack is putting
Speaker 1: together a spooky little haunted house pumpkin patch for the
Speaker 1: entire month of October. At the Queen Mary, I I
Speaker 1: was happy and the logo is amazing. Miles is faced
Speaker 1: by the way he just turned into a child. It's
Speaker 1: really look at somebody who had Shaquille O'Neil as part
Speaker 1: of his you know, formative experiences. I know, will there
Speaker 1: be dub step as well? Please be on brand? DJ Diesel?
Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, I mean literally, there's like the pumpkin
Speaker 1: patch description is during the day, Shack Diesels Pumpkin Patch
Speaker 1: offers a traditional experience where kids of all ages can
Speaker 1: explore the attraction, but at night, the attraction erupts to
Speaker 1: life as a Shack Diesel mix blasts throughout the area,
Speaker 1: accompanied by an over the top light show mixing Halloween
Speaker 1: and E d M into a walkthrough experience. I like,
Speaker 1: I lost my mind when I saw this billboard. I
Speaker 1: was like, how am I only just hearing about that?
Speaker 1: I cannot wait to go. It's cheaper than Halloween horror knipes.
Speaker 1: It's it's I I'm I was so happy. I was
Speaker 1: so happy. It's the best thing I have googleden ages.
Speaker 1: I couldn't I was so happy. I'm so happy I
Speaker 1: can share it with you in the people. I'm already
Speaker 1: at sh october Fest dot com. I love how every
Speaker 1: sort of like attraction at this thing has like a
Speaker 1: daytime thing, and then it's like and then at night,
Speaker 1: like during the day fun for the family to trick
Speaker 1: or treat, and then at night these spooky motherfucker's will
Speaker 1: traumatize your fucking little kids, So don't funk around parents,
Speaker 1: Like every single thing is like promising like safe for kids,
Speaker 1: but then after eight all bets are off, get the
Speaker 1: hell out. You don't want to be here. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: because usually it was just always like spooky Queen Mary,
Speaker 1: like very very standard ship they would do with the
Speaker 1: Queen Mary for Halloween. I remember going once in like
Speaker 1: middle school and be like, this is so underwhelming, but
Speaker 1: now of a very lonely Hall of Fame basketball player playing,
Speaker 1: that's just gonna say, this feels driven by loneliness in
Speaker 1: a way. Remember remember in the group threat I sent
Speaker 1: that picture. Shock recently talked about how like how much
Speaker 1: his infidelities fucked up his personal life that he's like,
Speaker 1: I fucking ruined my life, like I the sound of
Speaker 1: my children saying Daddy when I come home. I there's
Speaker 1: the biggest thing I miss and and I did this
Speaker 1: all to myself. And when he's giving this interview, he's
Speaker 1: wearing the most un serious like three sixty wrap around
Speaker 1: like cyber shades and like has like a weird poster
Speaker 1: behind him, and you're like, you look like a haunted
Speaker 1: single dad who's now doing d M in his like,
Speaker 1: you know, a midlife crisis. So maybe I do want to,
Speaker 1: you know, go and support the big Aristotle. Yeah, no, exactly.
Speaker 1: Let's get on dadach October Fest. I think he he
Speaker 1: needs it. He's gonna need it. I think he's also
Speaker 1: a big Halloween fan because he's in well this is
Speaker 1: a slight spoiler, he's in Hube Halloween. They had a
Speaker 1: Standler movie that came out two years ago, which, if
Speaker 1: you have not seen it, fantastic, completely underrated. I was going,
Speaker 1: I think I've used that as an underrated before, but
Speaker 1: it was going to be mine today because I watched
Speaker 1: that in October one. That's my tradition. It's so stupid off.
Speaker 1: I love I love it. I love it so much.
Speaker 1: And Jack just left him protest. Yeah, Jack can handle.
Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm more of a Jordan's fan. I
Speaker 1: wish that like Jordan's Holiday Castle was around. You guys
Speaker 1: are really gonna like Kurt rambis Fest nobody. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I think his his Internet tied was not a protest thing.
Speaker 1: Sh October how much. They're pretty cheap. They like standard
Speaker 1: tickets only thirty five bucks, the v I P tickets
Speaker 1: a hundred, and you can watch Shack cry in person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know exactly. I don't wonder if like one of
Speaker 1: the attractions is Shock sobbing over his life's mistakes as
Speaker 1: like a cautionary tale to people. You're like, you don't
Speaker 1: want to walk through the den of regrets. It don't
Speaker 1: be like me, respect your marriage, wow, hellia a life
Speaker 1: of loneliness and then fucking ed from the try guys
Speaker 1: is there too, He's like, that's exactly. I just I
Speaker 1: just want I want a hoodie with the sh october
Speaker 1: Fest logo on it. It's so good because that's like
Speaker 1: shock as a skeleton, like Giant pump. It's really good,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, it's I'm going for the Graham. I'm
Speaker 1: fully Instagram might be dead, but this might be it's
Speaker 1: death rattled to me. This will bring it back. I
Speaker 1: can't wait. Uh. Jack went to go buy his tickets
Speaker 1: for sh october Fest and to home Depot, but I
Speaker 1: think he might be back. Damn, it's only fucking two
Speaker 1: nights or three nights. Yeah, it's a whole month. It's
Speaker 1: for the whole month, but it's like only it's three
Speaker 1: it's four nights a week or five that we actually Damn,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to read numbers. I read one,
Speaker 1: I was like, definitely two days. I had the same
Speaker 1: exact thought. That's exact fear. Yeah. Well, and I honestly
Speaker 1: I do want to throw it out as an alternative
Speaker 1: to Hollow Scream, which I've never I've never been to
Speaker 1: hunted to the Universal for their thing, because it's like
Speaker 1: I've heard that you have to buy the v I
Speaker 1: P for like three bucks otherwise it's not worth it.
Speaker 1: It's also completely sold out already. But you know, at
Speaker 1: october Fest, I will say the cheapest tick at the
Speaker 1: thirty five v I P Is a hundred, But if
Speaker 1: you look at their calendar, nothing says selling fast yet,
Speaker 1: so I think I think you can. Because the billboard
Speaker 1: literally just went up the other day. I think it's
Speaker 1: a real last minute like, yeah, exactly, warn him five,
Speaker 1: tell about it six six days into the fucking thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, I do. I think the october Fest website
Speaker 1: crashed my internet because as I went and was exploring,
Speaker 1: clicking around, Yeah, my internet completely went down. I think
Speaker 1: we're back, but usually this is four boding. This usually
Speaker 1: means trouble to come. But well, we'll see how we
Speaker 1: hold up. But I did want to mention on the
Speaker 1: logo whose note do you think it was to add
Speaker 1: a scary snake around his neck? Because a skeleton's body,
Speaker 1: very very clean, straightforward skeleton hands holding a pumpkin and
Speaker 1: like scary staff, but then there's a scary snake around
Speaker 1: his neck, which just like I don't I don't associate
Speaker 1: snakes like you don't go to a haunted house and like,
Speaker 1: oh no, a scary snake came down. Totally. It's like
Speaker 1: spiders or something. Snakes are too tropical to Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not Halloween canon at all. Right, you know, I wonder
Speaker 1: if I think Shock might be afraid of snakes yeah,
Speaker 1: he probably was like he saw Indiana Jones and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm also afraid of snakes. That gave me. That gave
Speaker 1: him the courage to admit his phobia. He's Indiana Jones
Speaker 1: also free. Yeah, okay, alright, you think about how big
Speaker 1: Shack is. Shack is a twelve foot skeleton himself, that
Speaker 1: that snake must be huge. So, I mean it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not an unscary snake, but it is Barkley's because
Speaker 1: remember of Shack, Would's messed with Chuck about his fear
Speaker 1: of snakes. Oh, I'm doing this as a diss He's like,
Speaker 1: or if maybe secretly does and like during the notes,
Speaker 1: like and this is the logo shock, you know, like
Speaker 1: we're ready to print, and he's like, no, You're gonna
Speaker 1: be really scary as a big, big snake. Yeah. Really,
Speaker 1: it's a beautifully rendered logo. Is just one extra that
Speaker 1: it doesn't really make sense. Yeah, He's like, Charles is
Speaker 1: gonna see this and he'll be a gealous I have
Speaker 1: have I have a sh october Fest and then he'll
Speaker 1: see that I'm smiling with a snake around me. Oh ship,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly. What is something you think is overright in Madison.
Speaker 1: I think cottage core is overrated. Like cottage core is
Speaker 1: like basically, I mean, it's a style of dress, but
Speaker 1: it's also like an entire lifestyle. It's basically going back
Speaker 1: to like you know, old school, little house on the prairie,
Speaker 1: simple living, living off the grid, you know, making your
Speaker 1: own bread, your own butter, living off your trust fund. Basically,
Speaker 1: because wasn't there like one of those people who were there,
Speaker 1: like yo, like I felt there was a cottage core influencer,
Speaker 1: people like this person has a lot of money, Like
Speaker 1: so they're not actually I mean, like as they are
Speaker 1: living off the land, they are also have a massive
Speaker 1: financial safety net. I mean, oh uh yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: it's crazy. There's a girl who I follow who's like,
Speaker 1: I live in this cottage in a mountain range and
Speaker 1: it's like the mountain is owned by her family. Oh
Speaker 1: is that the one in Europe? No, she's in Washington.
Speaker 1: I mean she's ba girl. But I'm like, girl, get
Speaker 1: out of here. I understand, like Cassandra Olympia and Cascadia,
Speaker 1: But wait, what are we going to say about it?
Speaker 1: I just I just think it's weird. I think it
Speaker 1: you know, I understand like wanting to live more simply
Speaker 1: like my my family, My grandmother lived in a trailer
Speaker 1: in West Texas. I know about living simply and just
Speaker 1: having to like make your own food and like go
Speaker 1: get the water and like what you know, all these
Speaker 1: kind of things. But I think it's like it I
Speaker 1: worry sometimes like is this a hot skipping a jump
Speaker 1: away from like being anti feminist like trad wive, like
Speaker 1: barefoot and pregnant in the house of no electricity and nothing.
Speaker 1: Right now, it's mostly like a feminine aesthetic, like the
Speaker 1: cottage core. We're not seeing like bro cottage core yet,
Speaker 1: where it's like we're a cottage for a couple and
Speaker 1: he's out there drinking his home may mead and swinging
Speaker 1: in axil. That's Portland's That's that's portlandt that's actually right there. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think any style that is based on that just
Speaker 1: completely coops like a version of history is probably I
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like fashion is where we get
Speaker 1: to like maybe pull some elements from history but then
Speaker 1: combine them to make something new and interesting. But if
Speaker 1: it's just you know, if it's just like colonial Jamestown
Speaker 1: or you know, people people cause playing I feel like
Speaker 1: that that's a that's a waste of a fashion movement. Personally,
Speaker 1: it's just it's elements of whimsy. It's not a fetishization
Speaker 1: of fashion or history. Looking back on even like rockabilly style,
Speaker 1: Like when I was a teenager in the early ADTs,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of like rockabilly looks and we
Speaker 1: were really harkening back to the fifties. But like as
Speaker 1: an adult, I'm like looking back and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you mean where they like hose down your grandmother, where
Speaker 1: where like dad was born in the colored section of
Speaker 1: the hospital. You mean that that fifties. My association with
Speaker 1: these outfits isn't the most the warmest of memories. It's
Speaker 1: usually them screaming in someone's face and a German shepherd
Speaker 1: like on a leash, fucking like yeah, like that's what
Speaker 1: I but okay, that's it's funny though, too. Like even
Speaker 1: with like the fast wave haircut, you know, like when
Speaker 1: everybody was getting like the Hitler youth like like fascist
Speaker 1: hair and it was like super fashionable at a time,
Speaker 1: and it took a few people with like some historical eyeballs,
Speaker 1: Like this is like y'all are just doing like Hitler
Speaker 1: youth haircuts, just so you know, and then it became
Speaker 1: then like suddenly like every conservatives like, yes I am fascist,
Speaker 1: now thank you. I've like, it's not like you led
Speaker 1: to the real reckoning of like gender norms or something progressive.
Speaker 1: And I can't imagine that, you know, if I saw
Speaker 1: people dressed up and you know, just like when we
Speaker 1: see this ship on Airbnb, were like, hey, stay in
Speaker 1: a slave cottage. No no, no, no, no, Like, don't
Speaker 1: even offer the people the idea that they could that
Speaker 1: they're interacting with such a sordid time and history. But look,
Speaker 1: cottages are fine, you know, get your gunny sack on.
Speaker 1: I guess you know. I mean you can also get
Speaker 1: married at plantations and stuff like. That's. Yeah, it's weird
Speaker 1: to me that the like in America, we don't treat
Speaker 1: plantations sites or sites of former plantations like they do
Speaker 1: Holocaust memorials like in Germany. Like it's not dissimilar. It's
Speaker 1: actually quite worse in a lot of ways. I mean
Speaker 1: not I don't actually need to wait into that, but
Speaker 1: it's horrible both. But we don't even acknowledge that, like
Speaker 1: these atrocities happened here it's so weird. It's like it's like, man,
Speaker 1: remember like simpler times, like the dog whistle conservatives talk
Speaker 1: about all the time, like you know how when things
Speaker 1: were simpler, easier times, And it's like, well, sure for you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm also not saying that the I'm not trying to
Speaker 1: compare Holo constanty. I just want to be clear about that.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that our country has no chadow. Slavery
Speaker 1: was fucking brutal, and but when we see the sites
Speaker 1: of those crimes, we do our first as a country.
Speaker 1: The first instinct isn't to go, oh my god, take
Speaker 1: you know, take a moment to reflect here. It's like, girl,
Speaker 1: go run by those fucking columns. I love this. This
Speaker 1: is where the fucking chariot would pull up. Yeah, They're
Speaker 1: like take pictures for your Instagram here, yeah, which I
Speaker 1: mean to be honest, Look, that's just happening. Also at
Speaker 1: Holocaust memorials are people have no fucking decency or concept
Speaker 1: of like decorum, where people are like planking on top
Speaker 1: of wild Ye didn't Ryan Reynolds, America's most likable man,
Speaker 1: get married in on a plantation, Yeah to his wife
Speaker 1: Blake Lively he's Canadian man. See he's trouble. I knew it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Canadians weren't that innocent during that time. Both
Speaker 1: both colonizing freaks out here. Who Well, something you think
Speaker 1: is underrated? Okay, underrated? I would say, a DJ at
Speaker 1: your wedding. The people that come up to me and
Speaker 1: they say, I got a band from my I paid
Speaker 1: the extra money and we got it. Buddy. The band, well,
Speaker 1: guess what the band takes breaks and the band is.
Speaker 1: They have varying levels of talent, and the the band
Speaker 1: doesn't do any Jackson five right the band, whatever the
Speaker 1: band is, There's no band on earth that is as
Speaker 1: diverse as I would like a wedding playlist to be. Right.
Speaker 1: I went to a wedding in Philly and they did
Speaker 1: not play let me clear my throat. It's because the
Speaker 1: band didn't know it help him from more of a
Speaker 1: motown Philly vibe. Yeah, you just need you need a few. Yes,
Speaker 1: I know, I appreciated it. Check back in school, we
Speaker 1: used to dream of bank sounds like they could have
Speaker 1: used you on the mic. Okay, yeah, so anyway, you know,
Speaker 1: you just the bands are nice. But when I'm at
Speaker 1: a wedding. Nothing, Nothing a band is doing makes me
Speaker 1: like run to the dance floor unless Okay, yeah, I've
Speaker 1: been to a one wedding where the band was so
Speaker 1: fucking good I couldn't believe it, like they were killed
Speaker 1: like we're fucking killing it like they did Taylor Swift
Speaker 1: and then hit like cool in the gang seamlessly and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh fuck, really good, damn son, where'd you find?
Speaker 1: But what's even wilder? This week? So? I was at
Speaker 1: a wedding two this weekend. It was What was wild
Speaker 1: is they hired a DJ who comes with a drummer,
Speaker 1: a trombone player, and the DJ plays sacks so he'll
Speaker 1: be like playing ship. And then I took a video
Speaker 1: because this ship was so wild. This is them doing
Speaker 1: house music. But this dude is ripping a trumbone. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: fucked up my whole mike. Hold up, I just ripped up.
Speaker 1: We're not getting that video, not a chance. This thing
Speaker 1: got me so turned up. Okay, and I gotta share
Speaker 1: this band. Just listen. You know this tractyre playing too
Speaker 1: like this is the the dj Trumba played shoot like
Speaker 1: moving around a little bit. Yeah, this dude was getting
Speaker 1: this check Yeah, just so many songs. They were just
Speaker 1: the Trumbone player would come out of nowhere and just
Speaker 1: like rip a Trumbone solo to like, fucking that's fucking incredible.
Speaker 1: I want blew my mind. I think that is such
Speaker 1: a great endorsement for what you're talking about, Nick. And
Speaker 1: also the other big endorsement that Myles just said was
Speaker 1: that he's been to one wedding where the band actually
Speaker 1: like that. Miles goes to a wedding every weekend. He
Speaker 1: is the most popular human being. I know. He's always
Speaker 1: invite me. He goes on Twitter and just searches that
Speaker 1: we're getting married, and the friends like how people were
Speaker 1: like zoom bomb in the early pandemic controls just look
Speaker 1: for loose zoom links on Twitter of every engagement photo
Speaker 1: popping over a bush and I'm like, man, this man
Speaker 1: like one band chicken from one band out of the hole,
Speaker 1: out of his whole wedding crasher career. That but that
Speaker 1: was amazing, Like it was just kind of like they
Speaker 1: knew how to use the instruments like that were like
Speaker 1: horn or brass based and just like accentuate and I
Speaker 1: was fantastic this and was a whole a bunch of
Speaker 1: old lawyers, literally old lawyers, and they play the other
Speaker 1: thing you look for in a good band, Yeah, like
Speaker 1: seventies rock music. And it sounds that description sounds bad,
Speaker 1: but I will say they were incredible at what they did,
Speaker 1: like playing seventies rock covers. Like the first song was
Speaker 1: like I could have sworn that guy was Neil Young
Speaker 1: had come out. He was doing a Neil Young and
Speaker 1: it was like and they were all really great at
Speaker 1: their instruments. But at one point, the guy, the lead singer, said, um,
Speaker 1: people say, people complain that all of our music, uh,
Speaker 1: every everyone that wrote it is dead. But so we
Speaker 1: do have one newer song, and we're gonna play it
Speaker 1: right now. And they played Wagon Wheel Rock Me Mama,
Speaker 1: Locker Wagon, that one. You know, I don't know. It
Speaker 1: was like fifteen years, right, I like to like, but
Speaker 1: guess who's not dead? Three four on a dark desert highway.
Speaker 1: You know what they're They're still here. Eagles Never Die,
Speaker 1: Never Die, Never Die. Amazing. All right, Well, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back,
Speaker 1: And yeah, I just wanted to you know, your your
Speaker 1: background is, you know, working in unions and that does
Speaker 1: feel like a mainstream media narrative where there is some
Speaker 1: progress being made, right, Like we're we're starting to see
Speaker 1: public opinion shift towards you know, the people are understanding
Speaker 1: the value of having strong unions. But I just wanted
Speaker 1: to kind of when I heard you talk about your
Speaker 1: story like union unions played a big part, and just
Speaker 1: keep speak to that a little bit of how you've
Speaker 1: seen the value of unions. Yeah, I would say that
Speaker 1: it feels are we have a moment of arrival with
Speaker 1: the union, which is great. Yeah, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: know what it what's changed, But I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: so interesting because it's if you look at unions, the
Speaker 1: only place where they've grown really is is California, New York, Oregon,
Speaker 1: in Washington at least's always been the narrative for for
Speaker 1: me growing up. But I I do think that the
Speaker 1: sort of the income and equality that young folks are facing,
Speaker 1: I mean younger I'm thirty nine, but younger folks, you know,
Speaker 1: coming out of college to find jobs that you know,
Speaker 1: paying minimum wage, student debt, I think all those things
Speaker 1: have really shaped you know, the corporate greed. You know,
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos being so wealthy and people having so little.
Speaker 1: I think people see the union as like one of
Speaker 1: the main vehicles to try to change that. I think
Speaker 1: it's very inspiring. But yeah, and of course, you know,
Speaker 1: Chris Smalls and that victory was really phenomenal for the
Speaker 1: New Yorkans out there. I was amazing. It really captivated
Speaker 1: people's imagination. I think, yeah, yeah, And I I feel
Speaker 1: like there's just a flagging of enthusiasm for the mainstream
Speaker 1: narrative that has been sort of ascendant for most of
Speaker 1: my adult life, like through I guess my teenage through
Speaker 1: adult life, but like that, I feel like it really
Speaker 1: kicked off with the Clinton administration and just being like,
Speaker 1: we just let the market do its thing and it's
Speaker 1: going to take care of everything. And I feel like
Speaker 1: starting in two thousand and eight, we're starting to see
Speaker 1: kind of a flagging of that and now just hearing
Speaker 1: more and more stories of people like I think you
Speaker 1: talked about your first experience where where you were thinking
Speaker 1: about going to college and you were instead kind of
Speaker 1: asked to play a part with hotel workers union, and
Speaker 1: just like the night and day difference you saw between
Speaker 1: you know, how the bosses and the powers that be
Speaker 1: in that instance treated you right like once there was
Speaker 1: the possibility of of organization. Can you talk about that
Speaker 1: story a little bit, Yeah, absolutely, So I was it
Speaker 1: was my my last year at college. I was a
Speaker 1: working student. So I worked this hotel, this non union
Speaker 1: hotel job from high all the way through high school
Speaker 1: and college and my senior year, I'm like getting ready
Speaker 1: to go to law school and I was literally doing
Speaker 1: my house at prep course and I had it books.
Speaker 1: I was going to take it in June or so July,
Speaker 1: and the union came to my workplace. I said, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to want to organize. I met with the organizer,
Speaker 1: you know, just to give this story very quickly, you know,
Speaker 1: we we were doing on this under secret, and finally
Speaker 1: came the day where we were revealed ourselves right that
Speaker 1: we were organizing the union. And we came in with
Speaker 1: like thirty five forty workers demanding respect. And I was
Speaker 1: off that day, and so I came and I did
Speaker 1: that and I left. And then a few days later
Speaker 1: I came back to work and I thought I was
Speaker 1: gonna get fired. And I was like, oh, they're gonna
Speaker 1: fire me, you know, I don't know what's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: and it was quite the opposite, right. The managers were like,
Speaker 1: what did we do wrong? You know, how can we
Speaker 1: make it better? What can we do for you? And
Speaker 1: for me it was very clear because I was always
Speaker 1: very outspoken as a worker. My managers would try to
Speaker 1: say things and I would be like, actually, you know,
Speaker 1: the law says this, you know, because they knew I
Speaker 1: was I was going to go to I was going
Speaker 1: in law school. But it never changed the way they
Speaker 1: treated because they understood, we have the power. We haven't
Speaker 1: all right, we can write you up, we can discipline you.
Speaker 1: You you know who cares, right, But it wasn't until
Speaker 1: we did this collective action that they were freaked out.
Speaker 1: You know, they just they did They just completely started
Speaker 1: respecting us. And so eventually we won our first contract,
Speaker 1: and you know, people didn't have health insurance and now
Speaker 1: they had health insurance. We had low wages. You know,
Speaker 1: I used to beg to get a five cent raise,
Speaker 1: you know, fifty cent raise, we're getting like we got
Speaker 1: dollar raises for the first time, you know, and all
Speaker 1: these amazing things. And I was like, wow, like collective
Speaker 1: power works, and it was just so life changing for
Speaker 1: me and I think people that go through that experience,
Speaker 1: it's sort of like it's an awakening. It's like wow,
Speaker 1: like I you can actually change the conditions that we're
Speaker 1: that you know, that are around is every single day,
Speaker 1: and so so yeah, it became my left calling. That's
Speaker 1: really cool. Yeah, and I feel like that really does
Speaker 1: tie into like the you know trying we on this show,
Speaker 1: we try and you know, pay attention to those like guys,
Speaker 1: And it does feel like there is a just general
Speaker 1: waking up to the reality of the situation that when
Speaker 1: corporate power has thing to oppose them, they are going
Speaker 1: to do things that are bad for people, you know,
Speaker 1: and just good for the bottom line if unchecked. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it is definitely good to see that and hopefully you know,
Speaker 1: you and everybody can kind of keep up, keep up
Speaker 1: that fight. So I wanna, I wanna take a quick look,
Speaker 1: quick trip into the past to look at something that
Speaker 1: I had never thought about, but that was sort of
Speaker 1: a local battle in the nineteen twenties that has really
Speaker 1: shaped the world we live in, and that is jaywalking laws.
Speaker 1: So that this is in the news because California will
Speaker 1: soon decriminalize jaywalking, the traffic violation, not the jay Leno
Speaker 1: Tonight Show segment which should should be made illegal. I
Speaker 1: think they should do it just a trade of that
Speaker 1: jaywalking is illegal. This jaywalking is no longer, but the
Speaker 1: Freedom to Walk Act will go into effect on January one,
Speaker 1: And it's a good thing because jaywalking laws are I
Speaker 1: think the legal term is fucking stupid. They disproportionately. They
Speaker 1: also just give the police the ability to, you know, stop,
Speaker 1: It's an opportunity for them to just stop people whoever
Speaker 1: they want. It's more opportunity for the police to go
Speaker 1: after marginalized and low income residents. Yea. So my question
Speaker 1: with jaywalking laws specifically when because I feel like it
Speaker 1: has been a colloquial like funny ha ha as like
Speaker 1: a young adult growing up of being like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: you can get arrested for jaywalking, but you cross the street,
Speaker 1: no one's ever bothered you, Like are the reason they're
Speaker 1: decriminalizing it now is because they are still actively picking
Speaker 1: up people on the sides of the road, Like, is
Speaker 1: it that you can get arrested for being on the
Speaker 1: side the road? Is it that you can be arrested
Speaker 1: for just because I always think of it as like
Speaker 1: you're crossing the sidewalk when it says red light, you know.
Speaker 1: But now that I've been you know, kind of perusing
Speaker 1: the dock, it seems to me that they can and
Speaker 1: will target on house people often of jay walking, so
Speaker 1: to speak. But really it's just because they don't want
Speaker 1: them around, right, Yeah, I mean, so I think this
Speaker 1: is in in California as an example of of actual
Speaker 1: progress and people recognizing that this has just been Uh.
Speaker 1: In twenty nine of illegal walking tickets issued by New
Speaker 1: York police were two black and Hispanic people, So that
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. And it's fucked up as a
Speaker 1: walking city where I mean, most people don't have cars
Speaker 1: and most people can't you know, like they have to
Speaker 1: get wherever they need to go. And that's crazy to
Speaker 1: me to think that I could ever be ticketed in
Speaker 1: a city like New York where everybody is frequently on
Speaker 1: the street at all times, and and the laws actually
Speaker 1: don't do anything to pretend people Like in the UK,
Speaker 1: for example, jaywalking isn't illegal, but in eleven they had
Speaker 1: half as many pedestrian deaths per one thousand people as
Speaker 1: in the US. So I think it's like the question
Speaker 1: that this raised to me is not like why are
Speaker 1: they making this legal now? And more why why was
Speaker 1: this ever a thing? Like how did this ever become
Speaker 1: a thing that you that they can police and arrest
Speaker 1: you you based on like where you are walking and
Speaker 1: how you are walking. It does begging the question of
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just offline conversations I've
Speaker 1: been having over the week or also I feel like
Speaker 1: we were talking about it when it comes to like
Speaker 1: the white flight and the suburbs, and how suburbs are
Speaker 1: so designed for you not to be like walkable. They're
Speaker 1: like walkable in the neighborhood, so to speak, but like
Speaker 1: if you were to walk to the other neighborhood, you
Speaker 1: can't really do that, like you need a vehicle. Like
Speaker 1: is it also to police people in the suburbs so
Speaker 1: that there are aren't fragrant you know, people in those
Speaker 1: neighborhoods You think, I'm sure, I'm sure there that is
Speaker 1: it's used in that way, like the police use any
Speaker 1: law as a tool to you know, go after whoever
Speaker 1: they want to go after. But it actually so before
Speaker 1: the nineties, everybody could use the streets, which crazy content.
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem crazy to me, like it seems I
Speaker 1: really like as somebody who is coming to the point,
Speaker 1: and you know, my kids lives where I'm trying to
Speaker 1: you know, I I lived in the suburbs, and you know,
Speaker 1: not not a big city, like a suburb of Dayton, Ohio,
Speaker 1: and I my life was spent just like getting on
Speaker 1: a bike and riding around in the streets, and like
Speaker 1: my parents were just like all right, I'd be back
Speaker 1: when when it's dark, and like the the idea of
Speaker 1: my kids just going out and being able to ride
Speaker 1: around on bikes, like I feel like I have to
Speaker 1: like go to an abandoned parking a lot to like
Speaker 1: teach them how to ride a bike. And there's just
Speaker 1: so like it it doesn't even and and even walking
Speaker 1: around our neighborhood, you know, there's just so like the
Speaker 1: cars really own the streets in most major cities. And
Speaker 1: this is all the result of the nine twenties. So
Speaker 1: the thing that happened was, you know, in the n
Speaker 1: cars were basically seen as a rich person's like hobby.
Speaker 1: They were like yachts because they're so expensive, and they
Speaker 1: started running over mostly children and elderly people in cities
Speaker 1: and the so the city's at a local level, like
Speaker 1: fought back. Cincinnati had a big, you know referendum where
Speaker 1: they tried to make it so that cars could not
Speaker 1: go over twenty five miles per hour just at the
Speaker 1: like manufacturing level. They were like, please, this is you're
Speaker 1: you're killing people. And that resulted in the automakers kind
Speaker 1: of coming together, you know, taking their own collective action
Speaker 1: and creating you know, affecting these laws. And because there
Speaker 1: wasn't like collective action on behalf of children and elderly
Speaker 1: people who just want to be able to walk down
Speaker 1: like in their neighborhood, they were able to slowly over
Speaker 1: the course of a hundred years, just like create the
Speaker 1: world that we have now where it's very strict pedestrian controls.
Speaker 1: They invented jay walking. They did like a marketing campaign.
Speaker 1: So jay used to be a term for like hick
Speaker 1: like and so they everything stems from a derogatory at
Speaker 1: some point. Yeah, so they like created this marketing campaign
Speaker 1: and like they were there were they like hired a
Speaker 1: Santa Clause at one point to like heckle people for
Speaker 1: not walking legally and in the city like there they
Speaker 1: hired clowns to cross the road and in some cases
Speaker 1: like ram them with cars to make jaywalking seem foolish.
Speaker 1: Like there was this large scale mass like culture, brainwashing,
Speaker 1: marketing thing that happened, and it just slowly, over the
Speaker 1: course of a hundred years, took hold to the point
Speaker 1: that I'd like never really even considered the possibility of
Speaker 1: a world where, you know, my kids could just like
Speaker 1: go out and roam the streets of l A on
Speaker 1: a bike and like be safe from getting run over
Speaker 1: by a car. But like that, that is, that is
Speaker 1: the status quo that we were starting from. But because
Speaker 1: of the way that things operate in in the US,
Speaker 1: because there was money to be made by carmakers, there
Speaker 1: was a massive cultural or you know, both cultural and
Speaker 1: political move by them over the course of years to
Speaker 1: create the world that we have now where you you
Speaker 1: feel like you're in danger of both being arrested or
Speaker 1: getting hit by a car and it would be your
Speaker 1: fault if you just want to cross your street. Wow,
Speaker 1: this is incredible, incredible history you're you're talking about because
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, it's it's funny like when I
Speaker 1: grew just being raised and living in the city, you
Speaker 1: just assumed the streets for for the cars, right, that's it.
Speaker 1: Especially in a city like l A. Like La is
Speaker 1: such a big car place. I grew up in the
Speaker 1: suburbs of Texas, but my family grew up in l
Speaker 1: A and New York, and I felt very similarly where
Speaker 1: it's like in my very specific I lived on a
Speaker 1: coul de sac by my parents purposely picked a cul
Speaker 1: de sac house so that we could be in the
Speaker 1: could de sac safe and because they were worried if
Speaker 1: we lived on like a house that was more on
Speaker 1: the street part of you know, the neighborhood, that we
Speaker 1: could get hit or whatever by just like biking out.
Speaker 1: But like in the cold of Sac at least people
Speaker 1: have to like come all the way down there and
Speaker 1: see people and slow down before they make the spin.
Speaker 1: But I also have a Harvercraft mom, love you, you know.
Speaker 1: She didn't let me out anywhere. She was hot eyed
Speaker 1: at all times, yelling at people for driving too fast
Speaker 1: at all times. And but yeah, I definitely grew up
Speaker 1: in a place where I'm like I will until I
Speaker 1: moved to a real city or I'm not even a
Speaker 1: real city. I moved to Portland when I graduated college,
Speaker 1: and that was the first time I was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: you can like walk around in a city. You can
Speaker 1: like you can like get from pointing to point b
Speaker 1: by your feet. Like never knew what that was. Like,
Speaker 1: I always thought I had to get a car to
Speaker 1: drive ten minutes somewhere because it's just like simply was
Speaker 1: not safe to like walk anywhere in Texas. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it's it is, you know, the stuff that when when
Speaker 1: we talk about like acting locally, but like a lot
Speaker 1: of times the foe that you're operating against is power,
Speaker 1: powerful and either you know, national or international, you know.
Speaker 1: And so that's just the the organizing on behalf of
Speaker 1: people and you know, the communication having media that isn't
Speaker 1: just straight up controlled by these same you know, by
Speaker 1: the same profit motive, like the the auto industry group
Speaker 1: that took control of a series of meetings that were
Speaker 1: like meant to discuss this problem was headed by Herbert Hoover,
Speaker 1: who was then the Secretary of Commerce, to create a
Speaker 1: model traffic law that could be used by cities across
Speaker 1: the country. But due to their influence, the product of
Speaker 1: those meetings was largely based off traffic laws in l A,
Speaker 1: which had already kind of enacted the strict pedestrian controls.
Speaker 1: So these powerful people are acting on behalf of the
Speaker 1: most powerful thing and in the country, which is the
Speaker 1: whatever is going to make the most money, was the government.
Speaker 1: And the government acts on behalf of whoever is going
Speaker 1: to make the most money. You know, Herbert Hoover wasn't
Speaker 1: acting on behalf of like the children who had lost
Speaker 1: a city bling to because you know, somebody was racing
Speaker 1: around on their horseless carriage. He was acting on behalf
Speaker 1: of the you know, he was the Secretary of Commerce,
Speaker 1: so his job was to act on behalf of commerce,
Speaker 1: and and that became you know, he became president so well.
Speaker 1: And it's one of those things. I mean, it's a
Speaker 1: tale as old as time in American history of like, well,
Speaker 1: it's not going to affect me because I have money.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like those people in power and those
Speaker 1: very high seats that pockets are lined by all these
Speaker 1: different you know, head honchos and investors and things like that.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, they're like, whatever I
Speaker 1: do to make a decision that is benefiting my pockets.
Speaker 1: I know, even though it's abhorrent and it's going to
Speaker 1: hurt children or whatever, they're not gonna hurt my children
Speaker 1: because I have the money to fix this problem in
Speaker 1: my home, which is so fuck up. Yeah. Well, I
Speaker 1: find it very interesting that people are starting to deconstruct
Speaker 1: the laws that were in it over time and the
Speaker 1: facts like this. I thank the Internet for this because
Speaker 1: you imagine, growing up, all we had was Britannica in
Speaker 1: the library. So the fact we have so much information
Speaker 1: now we can actually dissect it and look at it.
Speaker 1: But I think the very interesting thing is how, you know,
Speaker 1: sort of the how sort of how white supremacy and
Speaker 1: like these laws show up in the on the sort
Speaker 1: of the policing. And so I'm very proud that we
Speaker 1: did this in California. You know, hopefully it could be
Speaker 1: a model for folks because you know it is they
Speaker 1: do target you know, black and brown folks or working
Speaker 1: class folks. So yeah, I mean even super Producer put
Speaker 1: in the chat Tupax to the Oakland Police Department for
Speaker 1: ten million for stopping him while jaywalking and choking him
Speaker 1: out for resisting arrest like black and brown, no matter
Speaker 1: the pockets eyes. That is absolutely insane. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think you're right that we're starting a movement in the
Speaker 1: opposite direction. We're starting to see movement in the opposite
Speaker 1: direction of people having access to more information than I
Speaker 1: would have in the past. When you know, in the
Speaker 1: nineteen twenties, like it's there. There aren't like a bunch
Speaker 1: of like radical zines or you know, the radio shows
Speaker 1: were like brought to you by Jared All and they
Speaker 1: were just like you know, cowboys shows or some ship.
Speaker 1: So yeah, hopefully, hopefully this can kind of we can
Speaker 1: kind of continue this this movement in this direction, and
Speaker 1: you know, small victories at a local level today, like
Speaker 1: could you know, if you if you look at how
Speaker 1: different things went from the nineteen twenties to the twenties
Speaker 1: where used to be people could walk around and feel
Speaker 1: safe walking around, and when you know, the ultra wealthy
Speaker 1: were running children, you know, the the children of poor,
Speaker 1: underrepresented people down in their yachts like that, there was
Speaker 1: a backlash and and now we live in a world
Speaker 1: where that that seems completely out of out of bounds.
Speaker 1: Like maybe with this new access to information and new
Speaker 1: movements at the local level, like small victories now can
Speaker 1: create a future that is unrecognizable to us a hundred
Speaker 1: years from now, in in a good way. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: knock on wood. All right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and then we'll come back and talk about the thing
Speaker 1: that I think everybody's really wanting to hear, the away
Speaker 1: and on Mario's dumper, and we're back and yeah. So
Speaker 1: the sports cheating story that caught my attention over the
Speaker 1: weekend was the poker one, and basically it just doesn't
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense, like when you when you look into it,
Speaker 1: if you've seen it but haven't had the patients to
Speaker 1: like look into it, Like for her to have cheated
Speaker 1: on this hand, she would have had to have known
Speaker 1: what cards were coming, essentially, because like she made decisions
Speaker 1: as if she knew what cards were coming, and that's
Speaker 1: like impossible, So, well, can you tell us what was
Speaker 1: in her hand at the time? It was like a
Speaker 1: jack four. I think any other guy had an eight
Speaker 1: nine straight draw like possibility, and so they or a
Speaker 1: straight flash possibility, And so they people were like, you
Speaker 1: never you never like stay in on a hand against
Speaker 1: something like that unless you could see his cards and
Speaker 1: like knew exactly what was happening. But everybody who I've
Speaker 1: seen who is a rational person and does not seem
Speaker 1: to be at least partially motivated by misogyny is like
Speaker 1: even if she knew what his cards were, it didn't
Speaker 1: make sense for her to stay in so knowing what
Speaker 1: his cards were, like she either misread her hand, didn't
Speaker 1: like kind of made a mistake and was just didn't
Speaker 1: really know what she was doing and then was kind
Speaker 1: of bluffing and talking ship to act like she did
Speaker 1: it all on purpose. But it doesn't it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: There's no cheating. That's how like, that's like, that's what
Speaker 1: games of chance are about. And like for him to that,
Speaker 1: the big thing is that he then like she was
Speaker 1: pulled aside by the organizer organizer of the tournament and
Speaker 1: this player who she beat, and they like basically intimidated
Speaker 1: her into giving the money back. And he's like, she
Speaker 1: she cheated, she wouldn't have given the money back if
Speaker 1: if if she hadn't cheated, or maybe she was being
Speaker 1: harassed by a bunch of them. He's like the most
Speaker 1: powerful player in the tournament, and everyone's like he does
Speaker 1: a lot for the sport of poker. But I don't
Speaker 1: know anyways, that's it's not really worth looking into if
Speaker 1: you If you haven't, it's just like it seems like
Speaker 1: it's misogyny and right, you know. To me, it's more
Speaker 1: like this dude couldn't fathom that maybe she just read
Speaker 1: your ask, like maybe she just knew how to fucking
Speaker 1: get you to slowly start raising and and then just
Speaker 1: figured you out. I don't know. And he's like, there's
Speaker 1: no fucking way that could happen, because I'm a guy.
Speaker 1: She's cheating and I don't haven't seen any evidence. But
Speaker 1: in this scandal, there's some fucking evidence in the ship.
Speaker 1: I had no I okay, so I'm right now. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna we talked about the chess vibrating asshole scandal,
Speaker 1: We've talked about potentially vibrating pants gate in the poker world.
Speaker 1: This is from another sports tournament over the weekend. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to say the sport right now. I just
Speaker 1: want you to listen to the fucking anger from this
Speaker 1: clip when people have found out that someone who won
Speaker 1: this tournament was cheating. So death, motherfucker. No theft, theft,
Speaker 1: although they were talking like it could have been death too.
Speaker 1: That was from a walleye fishing tournament. I know. The
Speaker 1: reason that people are screaming fucking murder is because the
Speaker 1: organizer of the tournament notice some thing was amiss while
Speaker 1: with the caught fish that the tournament's winners had presented.
Speaker 1: When they like, they had to weigh the fish, so
Speaker 1: he got his knife out, cut the fucking fish open
Speaker 1: and pulled out a bunch of lead weights. Like you
Speaker 1: can see it in the clip. The guy's just slicing
Speaker 1: them open. I'll play the clip for you because when
Speaker 1: they're also slicing the things open, the fucking like it.
Speaker 1: It goes to a whole other level when people realize
Speaker 1: the guy just gutted it and pulled fucking lead weights out,
Speaker 1: open it down, cutting it. He's about to pull him
Speaker 1: out single so lead weights in the fish's stomachs that
Speaker 1: were hidden, and you don't know that the fish didn't
Speaker 1: eat them, that's true, you're right? And how did they
Speaker 1: also eat other filets of other walleyes? Do they have
Speaker 1: a filet knife and then they cannibalize each other because
Speaker 1: another fish was just stuffed with more wally like? Fully
Speaker 1: know that was that was? They were stuck with other
Speaker 1: fish filets and a good idea the fish a good idea.
Speaker 1: I also read another one where we're just like stuff
Speaker 1: a bunch of bait into their stomach so that then
Speaker 1: people stuff with ice, so the evidence melts after they weigh. Right,
Speaker 1: there's a there's so many ways to do this right,
Speaker 1: like of and the thing is, these guys have been
Speaker 1: winning like over two million dollars like over their careers,
Speaker 1: and when you like they were about to walk off
Speaker 1: with thirty thousand that day if they if no one
Speaker 1: was wise to their ship. But and like with the
Speaker 1: entry fees being between like the hundreds of dollars and
Speaker 1: thousands of dollars, you can see why these guys are
Speaker 1: fucking pissed. Because you get a boat, there's fucking sponsorships,
Speaker 1: there's all this money that comes along with like winning
Speaker 1: these tournaments, and a lot of people have been like,
Speaker 1: I don't fucking get it, these fucking guys. One of
Speaker 1: the fisher was like, I caught a fish the exact
Speaker 1: same like length, but their ship was like two pounds
Speaker 1: heavier than mine. And so this there's been some suspicion
Speaker 1: and apparently cheating and fishing is such a huge problem.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, like to the point where in
Speaker 1: Texas there are laws specifically to cover this kind of ship,
Speaker 1: like it is a class A misdemeanor or a third
Speaker 1: degree felony to do that and de frouding a fishing
Speaker 1: tournament with prizes between or that are more than ten
Speaker 1: thousand dollars carry some maximum fine of ten thous dollars
Speaker 1: and a possible ten years in state prison. Wow, so
Speaker 1: let don't work around I heard I heard some other
Speaker 1: ways to cheat a fishing too, where people will have
Speaker 1: friends bring them fish and yeah, or they'll have they'll
Speaker 1: hide cages under the water and they bring them up there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: from from the cages with the priest stuff fish. I
Speaker 1: have a friend dress up as a fish and him
Speaker 1: him in and I'm like that motherfucker's a hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty pounds. Yeah, guy, hundred Look at me, I'm a
Speaker 1: hundred fifty pounds giant fucker. It's Tim Robinson in a
Speaker 1: fish costume. You know. I just don't understand how this
Speaker 1: went on for so long because everyone thought it and
Speaker 1: everyone kind of knew it, and they never once took
Speaker 1: a knife to a fish, never once, And then when
Speaker 1: they bring it out, it's got multiple giant weights in it. Is.
Speaker 1: The way to beat was sixteen pounds and they came
Speaker 1: in at thirty three pounds. What were they doing? Why
Speaker 1: was this so much too much on the chip. That's
Speaker 1: what everyone said they were. They were like swinging for
Speaker 1: the fences in ways like this is emphysically. They weren't
Speaker 1: you thinking to get more money? Yeah, he just had
Speaker 1: to be sick, just had to beat them by a
Speaker 1: fucking fraction of whatever. The wait, like the way because
Speaker 1: you don't see the guy's face in the video, that's
Speaker 1: the one problem. But the guy that just got caught,
Speaker 1: you see him from you can see him and he
Speaker 1: just stands out. He's just you can tell he's looking
Speaker 1: at him. That's oh. Here, there's a fast frame of
Speaker 1: him from this eyes just his profile. Oh yeah, like
Speaker 1: he knows. He can't even process what's happening. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: what do you do? Like do you just walk away?
Speaker 1: Do you just you gotta kill yourself? He is just
Speaker 1: absolutely still and expressionless, with a little bit of a
Speaker 1: downturned hang dog look. Like imagine you're literally Lebron James
Speaker 1: and then someone comes in, you know, and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: actually this guy's wearing like false legs. These are illegal.
Speaker 1: He's got rockets with a remote control ball. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you know, you're just rose. I don't know they even
Speaker 1: have ship where like you know, the like there will
Speaker 1: be observers on the boat sometimes to make sure that
Speaker 1: people aren't cheating. But apparently people will bribe these people
Speaker 1: too to be like, yo, you didn't say ship. Also
Speaker 1: they go with the bathroom and your stuff. I'm weighting,
Speaker 1: like they can't just be there the whole time. And
Speaker 1: then you also take polygraph test too. They take polygraph
Speaker 1: tests like the anglers will take polygraph tests after the
Speaker 1: fact too. But again, I mean, if you've ever like
Speaker 1: hung out with fisherman or like fished before and like
Speaker 1: talked to somebody who like does it for a living,
Speaker 1: you recognize that they are maybe the biggest liars in
Speaker 1: the like their professional liars, like that they're like lawyer
Speaker 1: level professional liars where that's not mean like fishing tale,
Speaker 1: like to tell him the tale, the one that got
Speaker 1: away and all that stuff like that. Our culture is
Speaker 1: like shot through with cliches about what liars fishermen are.
Speaker 1: So yeah, if this is the first time they cut
Speaker 1: open their fish, like, I'm a little disappointed, and the
Speaker 1: integrity of the governing body of Yeah, not one tournament
Speaker 1: had a big magnet that they slacked the fish against.
Speaker 1: And see if it sticks. I don't think lead would
Speaker 1: react to a magnet. Jesus nick Um, I have to
Speaker 1: go read by Civil Warman. You need to go look
Speaker 1: at your fucking period event in table of elements. Fam,
Speaker 1: that's wild. So are these guys? Are they? The guy
Speaker 1: has a look on his face like he's counting the
Speaker 1: number of like trying to do the math on like
Speaker 1: how quickly he could run to his presumably f one
Speaker 1: fifty and just like get the funk out of there.
Speaker 1: He's also got to be thinking it's like places to
Speaker 1: bury his money because he is about to lose everything, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And also like it's true like they're on like on Reddit.
Speaker 1: I went on like the like r slash fishing just
Speaker 1: to be like I got to take from like general Reddit,
Speaker 1: and I was like, what's fishing? Reddit gotta say? And
Speaker 1: like there are people all talking about these guys passed,
Speaker 1: and they felt that like the last couple events, people
Speaker 1: were getting more suspicious, so like it might have just
Speaker 1: been like boiled over this tournament where they're like, no,
Speaker 1: fucking no, like we're willing to maybe not sully the
Speaker 1: game by like accusing you of cheating then, but apparently
Speaker 1: this was just a bridge too far. Yeah, Like the
Speaker 1: other thing that people are saying was like, you know,
Speaker 1: the the organizers are probably gonna seek restitution for like
Speaker 1: the prize money that's come from, like because they want
Speaker 1: the previous year's tournament and are probably going to investigate
Speaker 1: what's going on there. And these guys have been you know,
Speaker 1: they've been caught before, so it just sucking. I think
Speaker 1: we can give them the benefit of the doubt on
Speaker 1: the previous year's tournament. They're just come on just like
Speaker 1: boat right, it's fine, but it's wild too to see.
Speaker 1: Like again in the commentary, people like, this is what's
Speaker 1: wrong with the sport man, Like we're out there trying
Speaker 1: to be honorable. And then but to your point, Jack,
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you guys all know? Like it's all
Speaker 1: about like verifying things that are very easy to like
Speaker 1: switch it up on people. All right, that's gonna do
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