Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to fifty eight,
Speaker 1: episode three of two Day a Less Day production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's sharing consciousness. And it's Thursday,
Speaker 1: October National No broad Day, National Metastatic Breast Cancer Awareness Day,
Speaker 1: National Train Your Brain Day, National Yorkshire Pudding Day. Was
Speaker 1: it not just no broad Day very recently? Or was
Speaker 1: that broad Day? Um? Maybe maybe it just No broad
Speaker 1: Day just rings out in my mind every year that
Speaker 1: we do it, and it seems like it was just yet.
Speaker 1: I mean, because I think, you know, just October is
Speaker 1: Breast Cancer Awareness Month, so I feel like you're having
Speaker 1: a lot of like every couple of days, probably something
Speaker 1: to do with it, but yeah, I mean it makes
Speaker 1: sense that would be the same day as Metastatic Breast
Speaker 1: Cancer Wearing a Day. Go Alright, so you guys made
Speaker 1: sure not to wear your brows today, right, I'm not
Speaker 1: wearing Yeah, I'm gonna wash right now. So I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna lie and say I didn't wear it because I
Speaker 1: was observing. It's just in the one you got, the
Speaker 1: one you just got, got the one yeah that I
Speaker 1: just wear out. You know what? I mean, yeah, this one, bro.
Speaker 1: Never mind, I'm not even asking that it like what
Speaker 1: kind of what kind of detergent? I was just like, dude,
Speaker 1: people wear their bras out Like no, I think it's
Speaker 1: like it's just a gross straight systude thing of like
Speaker 1: wearing your underwear to In terms of spiderwebs, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there's definitely someone who wears their bra out Like
Speaker 1: you're like, you're in your thirties, you should have like
Speaker 1: a number of them, like by anyone already. But I
Speaker 1: got old webby here. Oh three. There's a form of
Speaker 1: self care that I only got like once I got
Speaker 1: my ship together in like my mid to late thirties.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I can buy more than like
Speaker 1: one pair of underwear every five years. I don't need
Speaker 1: to have the same under get that, yeah, rather than
Speaker 1: that pity pack my mom bid, who's like damn fully
Speaker 1: wearing that underwear? Right? I don't know what you need
Speaker 1: for Christmas? Yeah, there's good underwear out there. You wouldn't,
Speaker 1: would you, guys rely on your mother's to supply you
Speaker 1: with undergarments. I was for I was such a ineffective adult. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was baby. I was baby for sure. But now
Speaker 1: I'm baby with Webby underwear. There you go. I only
Speaker 1: got you to be honest, to keep it real. I
Speaker 1: only have one pair of Webby underwear, and I think
Speaker 1: I'm like, I hold onto. It's like the same way
Speaker 1: I haven't fully watched the last episode of Seinfeld. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it ain't over. It ain't over if I keep these
Speaker 1: why do you keep them? Though? Like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: let them go. I don't know. I think it's probably
Speaker 1: some metaphor for like my arrested development on some level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like even something as objectively as like this doesn't function
Speaker 1: as underwear. I'm like, well, I don't know. The waistband
Speaker 1: still has elastic in and even though most of it
Speaker 1: has detached from the waistband and I got to lift
Speaker 1: it up from one side. Right when you're ready, you
Speaker 1: can just have a ritual and just be like, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for all you did for me. Time
Speaker 1: for you to go, like Marie Condoit, appreciate. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what, I look at it like that Burnett and
Speaker 1: bury the ashes in the backyard. I'm gonna go live
Speaker 1: on Friday. Instagrams, you follow me, I will say bomb
Speaker 1: voyage to the pair of underwear made by that brand
Speaker 1: Head which made tennis rackets, because that's the random wonder
Speaker 1: where I would buy it. Ross, Wow, Oh you're fine underwear.
Speaker 1: It Ross too, its racket underwear. And then it ends
Speaker 1: with brands like off Brand, like they're like, yo, they
Speaker 1: make sporting goods. I'm like and shitty underwear. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it ends up looking like the netting and a tennis rackets.
Speaker 1: The visual, the visual. Well, that's all we're talking about today.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, I should introduce myself.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien A k oh no, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. We've been singing song. We've been singing
Speaker 1: songs since like right before we recorded. Now I've got like,
Speaker 1: it's this one thing in my head instead of the
Speaker 1: Scooby Doo theme, which is hocus Pocus too will Curse you.
Speaker 1: I read it in the Bible. If you watch the film,
Speaker 1: kids will be killed because you unleash say and uh.
Speaker 1: That is courtesy of Josea on Twitter. Shout out to you.
Speaker 1: This kind of sucked me up doing the research for
Speaker 1: this a K A K. Just like going on YouTube
Speaker 1: and being like, what's that song? Go like again? Because
Speaker 1: the version that this goes to was not the version
Speaker 1: I grew up with, And I was like, do I
Speaker 1: have a false memory, Like, oh, did I just write
Speaker 1: a version of the Scooby Dood? But I think it
Speaker 1: was like the sixties seventies version that I was seeing. Anyways,
Speaker 1: gotch I'm thrilled to be joined as always buy my
Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miles Grow Miles Gray a k juvenile
Speaker 1: up here we go. Huh, that's you when the kid
Speaker 1: lambo hunh that's you when the kid keep you old
Speaker 1: Mike because you keep knocking it around. Hun. You gotta
Speaker 1: smooth weed. Huh. You gotta hold the podcasts about trams
Speaker 1: hun that oz got some nerve. Hum for some of you.
Speaker 1: Google that reveals something about your hum. I know I
Speaker 1: ain't chipping you see ospit with the census home. You
Speaker 1: want to learn about kill You ain't scared, huh. You
Speaker 1: know how to play it high. You ain't just gonna
Speaker 1: let cat log come fucking hunhunting, yeah huh, tight up,
Speaker 1: run yeah huh. You would do the thing. You got
Speaker 1: your trains on fire, remained in the g until the
Speaker 1: stocky PRIs with time. You know what it is. You're
Speaker 1: hand in hand and your bess with all your brian
Speaker 1: and you're suffering. Okay, Mike out some fucking back an drop.
Speaker 1: Oh the fucking hand handle it. Okay, I can't handle
Speaker 1: these juvenile huh. It's wild to see it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't I remember. I'm like, I remember trying to
Speaker 1: wrap it as a kid to the album, but I
Speaker 1: realized it was very spoken word. But did them rhythmically, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a there's an art to that. And look started
Speaker 1: out as your grandfather and I was like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is this is his grandpa parton huh yeah, which I
Speaker 1: have now incorporated and every time I got long live,
Speaker 1: long lived warrant. Right, Yeah, Yeah, that was beautiful. It's
Speaker 1: it's still the morning and I wasn't ready for that performance,
Speaker 1: but you really came with it, Miles. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: it is the AM and you're bringing like seven eight
Speaker 1: pm energy. Look, I could also be Annolia boy because
Speaker 1: I lived off Magnolia Boulevard in North Hollywood, not the
Speaker 1: Magnolia projects like the people and you know, cash money,
Speaker 1: but you know, similar similar the Magnolia from the Paul
Speaker 1: Thomas Anderson film. But yeah, you know, still still still
Speaker 1: kind of like the Magnolia Projects, which are whatever you
Speaker 1: know that somewhat conferma. Anyways, we are thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by a brilliant comedian, writer,
Speaker 1: actor who you can find in one book, We Have
Speaker 1: a Little Real Estate Problem, the unheralded story of Native
Speaker 1: Americans and comedy. She's been featured on Comedy Central, Team
Speaker 1: Coco Illuminative twenty five Native American comedians to follow. It's Jackie,
Speaker 1: happy to be back, to have you good, to have
Speaker 1: you straight from how are yeah start from the bay.
Speaker 1: Speaking of impressive musical abilities, you you hit us with
Speaker 1: the It's this one Thing chorus before her recording, and
Speaker 1: it was so good, so on point that I forgot
Speaker 1: the Scooby Doo theme song. I'm just gonna say, I
Speaker 1: do love to sing. I'm terrified of it. So you
Speaker 1: guys got like a real treat. I will not do
Speaker 1: it now since we're recording. I'm just saying it was
Speaker 1: like one Superman kissed Lows and made her forget about
Speaker 1: all the like every his secret identity. That was that's
Speaker 1: what you're singing did to my brain with Scooby Doo
Speaker 1: theme song. Also, yeah, wow, that that happened to Superman.
Speaker 1: I think it's Superman too. He reveals who he is
Speaker 1: and then he kisses are so dang hard, which which
Speaker 1: if you ever like watch seventies and eighties movies, the
Speaker 1: kissing is really hard. They're just they're not like they're
Speaker 1: just pushing their faces because I think because when we
Speaker 1: started getting horn here and doing like the open mouth
Speaker 1: fake kissing, that that people like that's pornographic. Just push
Speaker 1: your mouths on each other, but the pressure against your
Speaker 1: faces will show us how horny you are. I still
Speaker 1: remember the November Rain video where Axel Rose open mouth
Speaker 1: kisses his bride on the altar and being like scandalized
Speaker 1: by that, being like, oh what not? How you kiss
Speaker 1: on TV faces? Yeah, if you look at the old
Speaker 1: like nine thirties movies, it's really aggressive, Like it's like
Speaker 1: a like they don't really move much as much as
Speaker 1: they press as hard as they possibly can. I was
Speaker 1: watching like a lot of Carry Grant stuff recently. You know,
Speaker 1: it's that season, it's the fall. We're doing bomb comps,
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, oh, I don't think she liked that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: He's like, come here, let me bite your gums real quick.
Speaker 1: My gum test the structural integrity of your upper lip.
Speaker 1: Let's see how strong that ship is. Yeah, Carry Grant,
Speaker 1: all right, well, Cary Grant, Cary Grant season everyone. I
Speaker 1: like how there's gifts of Carrie Grant kissing. When you
Speaker 1: search Carry Grant kiss there's like there's like more than
Speaker 1: one gift of him kissing. Oh, he's kissing, He's getting
Speaker 1: his His entire career was just making out. My man
Speaker 1: is a smootcher. Indeed. Actually, I want to know for
Speaker 1: any listeners who know, was that how people kissed back then? What?
Speaker 1: Or was it just like a weird screen? Like you
Speaker 1: look at look at this? How he kissing her? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's wild. He got both hands behind her head, Like
Speaker 1: I don't know, that's like the least sexy thing I've
Speaker 1: ever seen my life. Yeah, just give me the back
Speaker 1: of your head, girl, and I'm a hold. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have stiff, loose fingers like I'm wearing alien gloves or
Speaker 1: some ship. His fingers are practically interlocked around. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like a way tied clinch. He's got her in, although
Speaker 1: it is pretty centual compared to the one that I'm picturing,
Speaker 1: Like the eighties tom Selick kiss or you know, like
Speaker 1: where Okay, it just seems like it's it hurts plants
Speaker 1: them on there, doesn't if anybody has like a cultural
Speaker 1: history of that kissing on screen, kiss that that type
Speaker 1: of kissing. Let me know, Oh I put Burt Reynolds kid,
Speaker 1: but hey, let's see it, hey man, home Roll? Come
Speaker 1: on now, Mavis, remind me of the home Roll. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, this is this was he's kind of
Speaker 1: kissing Burt Reynolds, you know what a guyche They were
Speaker 1: like feel this mustache? Police all I want to give
Speaker 1: you Rosasha. All right, Jackie, we are going to get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a few of the things
Speaker 1: we're talking about. We're going to talk about where the
Speaker 1: right is having to go for heroes these days. They
Speaker 1: are standing up for the person that like one of
Speaker 1: my favorite like buffoons of the last political dumbass, one
Speaker 1: of the great political dumbass is the guy who wrote
Speaker 1: b LM anarchy sign Biden on his garage in Minneapolis.
Speaker 1: Hey intersectionality, folks. Yeah, and everyone's like, we can we
Speaker 1: can just already tell you that that is that is fake, sir.
Speaker 1: Nobody is doing anarchy and Biden anyways, they're they're back,
Speaker 1: he's back in the news and they're at here defending him.
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the Tucker Kanye interview because deleted
Speaker 1: scenes were revealed, and it's pretty pretty wild what was
Speaker 1: edited it out a lot of anti Semitism, a lot
Speaker 1: of very clear evidence that he is struggling with mental
Speaker 1: illness and all, you know, all to make Tucker Carlson's
Speaker 1: point for him. But it's it's truly, it's just very disturbing. Ship.
Speaker 1: Before we get to any of it, Jackie would like
Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Okay,
Speaker 1: so my question was how old is Beyonce really? So
Speaker 1: I googled that and I'm not trying to get the
Speaker 1: hive like mad at me. I love her, She's amazing.
Speaker 1: That said. My friend was like, there are rumors that
Speaker 1: she lied about her age. So I googled how old
Speaker 1: this Beyonce really? And then uh, an article came up
Speaker 1: her dad is out here being like she's lying about
Speaker 1: her age. She's fully two years older than she said
Speaker 1: she is. Her dad wait, so how old? So I
Speaker 1: I get the immediate Google responses forty one years. Yes,
Speaker 1: and that is a lie. She's actually forty three. That's
Speaker 1: what her dad is saying. So but you know, she
Speaker 1: had her B day album and she talks about nine
Speaker 1: for eight one B day, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So like, apparently it's apparently her dad's saying she was
Speaker 1: born in seventy nine. I don't care. What does that
Speaker 1: it's it's actually should be nine four seven nine. It
Speaker 1: is what the dad is saying. Yeah, what does that?
Speaker 1: Fucking Matt? I mean, that doesn't change that functionally has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the music. But no, but I
Speaker 1: guess also speaks to how it fucked up the industry
Speaker 1: is where there did they say? Why? Like, is it
Speaker 1: that she's lying? Because sir, weren't you the manager? He's
Speaker 1: implying that she's lying. And and I was just curious
Speaker 1: because I didn't know the age difference between jay Z
Speaker 1: and Fyance. It's twelve years according to the record, so
Speaker 1: I'm like, anytime it's ten or over, I get, you know,
Speaker 1: And there's some tricky math stuff on when they met
Speaker 1: and how old she was, so this this could actually
Speaker 1: be like, you know, exonerating for Jay z if if
Speaker 1: she was indeed two years older than she says she is,
Speaker 1: because I think they met when she was like seventeen
Speaker 1: by by current age Count's definitely something that happens. I know.
Speaker 1: I know somebody like from high school who came out
Speaker 1: to l A and is has a different birthday by
Speaker 1: five years than they two works, but five that's pushing it.
Speaker 1: That's that's when you have to have new generational you
Speaker 1: have to like talk research. Yeah you go, that's groovy.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I got heard your old like I use
Speaker 1: old words, and I didn't realize it until I started
Speaker 1: dating someone younger than me, and I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: what's funny too, Like, especially it's funny the way I
Speaker 1: speak Japanese is I was like raised around Japanese, like
Speaker 1: my uncles are speaking. So a lot of times you're like, yo, bro,
Speaker 1: you talked like a fucking old man, right, And I'm
Speaker 1: like I get that because my biggest like linguistic influences
Speaker 1: at that time we're old dudes. And like over time,
Speaker 1: I'm like, as I like you like modernized my vocabulary,
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of fun into like these expressions that
Speaker 1: are like, bro, that's what my dad. That's what my
Speaker 1: dad says. Ship. I'm like, hey, bro, that's me. I'm
Speaker 1: so funny. I love that. On my mom's side, my
Speaker 1: mom was Portuguese and her family came over in the
Speaker 1: early nineteen hundreds. So I picked up phrases in Portuguese
Speaker 1: and I brought them to Portugal and everyone was like, uh.
Speaker 1: I said, like a huge like to say goodbye, and
Speaker 1: they were like, that's like saying fairly well, we just
Speaker 1: say how we just say yeah exactly. But I'm of
Speaker 1: course I'm using language from like the eighteen hundreds, like
Speaker 1: that's my vocab, go away back. You're like, are you
Speaker 1: an old Mariner? Yeah exactly. I was like, should we
Speaker 1: take a ride on the Pennyfall thing? What should we
Speaker 1: do now? Yeah? So I totally you hear you Miles
Speaker 1: on that because I got old language in my in
Speaker 1: my head. The thing I would say this, like if
Speaker 1: we were going to just to go back to the
Speaker 1: Beyonce thing. Right, the one video that I feel like
Speaker 1: we could look at was the Star Search video. Right,
Speaker 1: we all give me a one to check. Obviously we
Speaker 1: know from Flawless when he's like I'm from Houston, Texas,
Speaker 1: girl time So in that right, that was in ninety three,
Speaker 1: so she would have been twelve, So I guess by
Speaker 1: this logic what she would be probably where it comes
Speaker 1: in handy, right, like that age being like this young
Speaker 1: twelve year yeah, like it just makes it more impressive
Speaker 1: and then you just get to ride it through your
Speaker 1: your career. Although now I feel like it's first of all,
Speaker 1: she already looks better than any forty one year old
Speaker 1: human being has ever looked. So she's actually three. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so she's forty three. Like it's science. Maybe it's like
Speaker 1: a superhero secret identity to bring that back. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: like she's trying to keep herself her her real age
Speaker 1: is secret, because otherwise science would be putting her in
Speaker 1: a lab and like trying to study her more than that, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's impossible that she looks good. You could, like car,
Speaker 1: you could potentially figure out when the deception happened, right,
Speaker 1: because if it happened in ninety three on Star Search, right,
Speaker 1: and they're like, look at this twelve year old girl
Speaker 1: or whatever is that Beyonce being like Daddy tell him
Speaker 1: I'm twelve, No, being like, yeah, man, my little girl
Speaker 1: in twelve, look at her go yeah, yeah, that's where
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, I think or if anything, are you
Speaker 1: telling on for lying about her? Like nothing about it
Speaker 1: makes it seem like Beyonce like wanted to change her age.
Speaker 1: I'm having my head around in my head. I just
Speaker 1: green let the podcast the three of us are hosting
Speaker 1: called The Deception, and it's all just trying to untangle
Speaker 1: the truth about Beyonce's age. I think you can do
Speaker 1: it right. And why is her dad even out here
Speaker 1: talking about it? Like why no, one doesn't matter. Please
Speaker 1: sit down, yeah, sit down, or come with come with
Speaker 1: your own house of very on, so we have something
Speaker 1: to talk about. Um, what is something you think is overridden?
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of like Instagram influencers. I'm just tired
Speaker 1: of it, Like I hate how Like when I used
Speaker 1: to look at Instagram Instagram content, it was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a cute outfit, and now everything is like
Speaker 1: sponsored by a protein powder or sponsored by like some
Speaker 1: stupid product, and I'm just annoyed, Like you'll see like
Speaker 1: a really cool thing, like hey, check it out. I
Speaker 1: just read designed my new house. Now check out this
Speaker 1: pillow by the pillow Man or just whatever. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, can we stop? I just I it's basically
Speaker 1: just marketing into our faces. And it's like I think
Speaker 1: of these Instagram like influencers, It's like this is their
Speaker 1: heyday because it's gonna come crashing down a venture right
Speaker 1: now it's happened ing and it's like, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna I don't know. I just think it's funny. Like
Speaker 1: in fifty years, we'll back in my day. You know,
Speaker 1: I would sell a protein product and I made a
Speaker 1: lot of money. You know, I don't know, I just it.
Speaker 1: Grandma used to be with her her life family all
Speaker 1: the time exactly, and it's all it's very CULTI multilevel market.
Speaker 1: Like in forty years, will Instagram still be around, but
Speaker 1: it'll be like Facebook only a product that's only used
Speaker 1: by people in old, old folks homes and they'll be
Speaker 1: like getting updates like this influencer house is having a
Speaker 1: reunion more like, oh look at them, they got back together.
Speaker 1: I'm just over it and everything just looks so fake.
Speaker 1: I'm just tired. I'm like the world is falling apart.
Speaker 1: How are we pretending that everything's fine? Well that's the
Speaker 1: I think the bit right is like clearly for our generation,
Speaker 1: like the commercials stopped working. Yeah, and like so they're like, fun, bro,
Speaker 1: I was gonna watch TV. They don't even they can't
Speaker 1: even afford TV. So how do we get to them?
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, turn all this ship that they're scrolling through,
Speaker 1: just co opt what they're seeing and turn that into
Speaker 1: the new commercial and like and then these people are
Speaker 1: able to get a lot of money or whatever the
Speaker 1: da da. But even now, like it's that cycle is
Speaker 1: happening now or before you'd be like, oh, ship, what's
Speaker 1: this person who I funk with? Wick? What are they wearing?
Speaker 1: Is now like, man, this whole person is a fucking ad.
Speaker 1: Now don't even know what the fun is real. So
Speaker 1: I feel like whatever the next thing is probably gonna
Speaker 1: be like incentivizing like people to say ship to their friends.
Speaker 1: On some level, it's like, hey, if we record you
Speaker 1: big enough the brand four times, like on this app,
Speaker 1: you know you'll get a fucking discount or some ship
Speaker 1: like that, because we need even more like subtle ways
Speaker 1: to like influence people. But I don't know, hit me up.
Speaker 1: We're all just one pyramids came you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: It's all just one bit. Everyone's a walking ad and
Speaker 1: that's what frustrates me. Maybe it's just more obvious to
Speaker 1: me now, maybe they have been doing it way longer
Speaker 1: than I knew about it, But I just I'm like, oh, cool,
Speaker 1: this is a paid sponsor content. And it also just
Speaker 1: makes me amazed that people are in their homes fully
Speaker 1: like creating new content every day about a new product
Speaker 1: and it works on me. And I think that's why
Speaker 1: I'm mad, because I'm like, Instagram has my fucking oh,
Speaker 1: they know me. They're like, she wants this and I'm like, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: start throwing it off, just start looking for ship. They've
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with you, and totally totally so
Speaker 1: I think they're overrated. I don't know what do you
Speaker 1: guys think about these these influencer people. I do think
Speaker 1: it's overrated for like the idea that that they're doing
Speaker 1: it themselves. I think they're massive teams and production teams
Speaker 1: behind the scenes that are all helping the illusion that
Speaker 1: they're doing it by themselves. But it's it's all invisible,
Speaker 1: you know, trickery, you know. I don't I know people
Speaker 1: who are like to do influencership and some are just
Speaker 1: like they're they're run. They run themselves ragged, which is
Speaker 1: the other side of it too, because they're like my
Speaker 1: whole life trying to get a hotel to be like yo,
Speaker 1: come through, blah blah blah, and then you're all you
Speaker 1: have to think about every day like what's the next thing,
Speaker 1: what's the next thing, what's the next thing, what's the
Speaker 1: next thing? If you're not like major, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like so when they described that ship, I'm like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: you do get free hotel stays, but like you have
Speaker 1: no fucking time for anything because you're always thinking about
Speaker 1: what backdrop to watch that up for this right, Like
Speaker 1: you know Theo's at Abercrombie documentary on Netflix, Like back
Speaker 1: in their heyday, they were hot and naked. Like I
Speaker 1: just feel like there's gonna be a I was an
Speaker 1: Instagram model and like you know, I had all these
Speaker 1: sponsorships and she and was sponsoring me, and it's just
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about how unhappy everybody because that's I
Speaker 1: guess that's what it is. It's like everyone's unhappy, shut
Speaker 1: up and protecting like you are part Like when are
Speaker 1: y'all Like I mean, but that's the fun of social
Speaker 1: media influencing, right, it's like so curiated that you can
Speaker 1: take out all the parts that make it real. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every every famous person is a small too large company,
Speaker 1: and there there's a company of people behind them that
Speaker 1: are you know, brand strategists and you know people production
Speaker 1: people help you buy new pairs of underwear, exactly have
Speaker 1: an interest in keeping their career going. So yeah, anyways,
Speaker 1: shout out to my team, shout out my mom. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: keeping you in the fresh and the fresh uns, trying
Speaker 1: to trying to like there're you know, we've heard of
Speaker 1: like really talented comedians who right for you know, celebrities
Speaker 1: on Instagram, So like that's just an invisible it was
Speaker 1: an invisible way that people are being helped and you know,
Speaker 1: could creating this illusion anyway. That was such a good
Speaker 1: way to put it though, Jack that every like they're
Speaker 1: like a small or like a medium to large business
Speaker 1: because they are. And I think, yeah, that just I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have Instagram, but it wasn't for comedy, Like I
Speaker 1: think I might have like a private page and here's
Speaker 1: something I did this weekend, but this this needing to
Speaker 1: churn out content, I'd just feel like it's made zombies
Speaker 1: that have so many really cool creative people. That's all. Now,
Speaker 1: it's the art that I care about. Man. I think
Speaker 1: it's also why famous people end up like having very
Speaker 1: unhealthy lives because they there is this forward inertia of
Speaker 1: you know, multiple people and like families, like a whole
Speaker 1: infrastructure of people who rely on them to continue to
Speaker 1: be successful at a thing that might not be making
Speaker 1: them happy. But like that's that's not the point anymore.
Speaker 1: Like you, you as a person, kind of become besides
Speaker 1: beside the point you and at that point you truly
Speaker 1: are like I'm not even a person. I'm a fucking
Speaker 1: I'm a publicly traded company. You're a brand. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the crazy part when people become brands. But that's I
Speaker 1: think the biggest, the most insidious ship is for that
Speaker 1: happened with kids, because we've talked about it before, like
Speaker 1: when that relationship is inverted and then the children are
Speaker 1: now the ones having to supply and support a family financially. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no child deserves to be in a situation like that,
Speaker 1: you know, like it and it's but it's so normal
Speaker 1: and like there's not much and like so many kids
Speaker 1: will be like yeah, I like that. I like that
Speaker 1: I make my parents happy and ship like that, but
Speaker 1: then cut to like ten years later and it's all
Speaker 1: kinds of trouble. Yeah, I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 1: I follow a kid who makes like silly just like
Speaker 1: says ridiculous ship and she's very cute, and I'm like, oh, no,
Speaker 1: am I contributing? What's that parents saying? It's like we
Speaker 1: need this ship? Better do to Millie? Yeah, was going
Speaker 1: to go out right, what is something you think is underrated? Okay?
Speaker 1: This is I think crafting is underrated, y'all. Hell yeah, crafting. Crafting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been I started crocheing. I don't know if that
Speaker 1: means that I'm going deeper into the depression or coming out.
Speaker 1: I started crouching. Can I show you the thing that
Speaker 1: I'm crocheing? Oh my god, hold on a second, where
Speaker 1: did you go? Don't act like you don't have it
Speaker 1: right there, Jackie? Oh my gosh, how about you. I'm
Speaker 1: proch it's supposed to be in our while. I have
Speaker 1: a tail. It's coming and then it's going to have
Speaker 1: like a little a little horn coming out. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: just okay, speaking of fucking Instagram. Uh, it was like
Speaker 1: this bitch likes cute little shit, and so I got
Speaker 1: this ad for like a little crochet kit, like it
Speaker 1: comes with everything and you follow a pattern. And I'm
Speaker 1: so fucking impressed with how far I've gotten with having
Speaker 1: zero experience. So anyway, that's I was, like, you know what,
Speaker 1: like sitting and doing nothing but like listening to music
Speaker 1: and like fucking crafting. Hell yeah, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: we I just feel like we lost that. We've completely
Speaker 1: lost that right in our digital age are like office
Speaker 1: work age. We do not make ship with our hands anymore.
Speaker 1: We do not do things with our hands. I mean,
Speaker 1: like cooking is the thing I really like to do.
Speaker 1: And I realized, because I'm using my hands, I'm creating
Speaker 1: something tangible when we do, like even with this right
Speaker 1: doing the podcast, I'm here talking expressing myself. I'll type
Speaker 1: some stuff out and do my research, but I've not
Speaker 1: really made something tangible like at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why I gravitate towards things like
Speaker 1: having to play bass or like trying to play music,
Speaker 1: because I like to use my hands in service of
Speaker 1: like creating. And I think, to your point, that is
Speaker 1: a massively underrated thing and I've I've picked it up
Speaker 1: really for like my own mental health care of being like, yo,
Speaker 1: this gives me something to do. It's it's it's like
Speaker 1: I'm using all parts of my fucking brain. You re realize,
Speaker 1: like we're usually just sitting looking at a screen most
Speaker 1: of the time, and like, yeah, totally completely. I love
Speaker 1: that because I don't like I'm doing standard at night.
Speaker 1: I'm writing different projects right now. I've got a couple
Speaker 1: of cool things happening. But I but it's I'm not
Speaker 1: using my hands and I and I feel like I
Speaker 1: used to make ship when I was a kid. I
Speaker 1: used to like so like I used to like do
Speaker 1: all this stuff and like make pillow cases for people,
Speaker 1: and like remember one Christmas, I like sowed like a
Speaker 1: bunch of aprons for my sisters with different like colors
Speaker 1: of fabric. Like there was just so much creativity happening
Speaker 1: in a different way. And so I feel like this
Speaker 1: is my Like it's very simple, it's very bare bones,
Speaker 1: but I'm like, you know what, I kind of like
Speaker 1: this just having nothing on the agenda, but the fun
Speaker 1: of creating something by hand, right and your feedback at
Speaker 1: the end because you've made a thing It's not like
Speaker 1: I want play this video game and then like I
Speaker 1: turn it off and the screen is black. Now I
Speaker 1: don't know what the happened. You know, like at least
Speaker 1: you can do something. Yeah, I definitely. I like that.
Speaker 1: Everybody's do some with your hands, make some with your
Speaker 1: hands if you can't for creating it, you know, so
Speaker 1: like something that just exists, not like this is part
Speaker 1: of my grind to like open up an Etsy shop
Speaker 1: so that I can, you know, be or I mean,
Speaker 1: if you if you make it work for you. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just feel like every everything is like connected back
Speaker 1: to this like attention economy in all these different ways. Yes,
Speaker 1: now that you guys are saying, Now that you're saying
Speaker 1: that out loud, Jack, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is. Like I everything I
Speaker 1: do is a way to like make content or push
Speaker 1: an idea or like a joke or whatever. And I
Speaker 1: think this is the first time that it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is just me fucking learning how to crochet an
Speaker 1: our wall. There's no there's no I mean I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't I know exactly, but this is our wall
Speaker 1: is just like a fun thing. So Anyway, I think
Speaker 1: people should like craft and like make ship cook fucking
Speaker 1: so play the bass, you know, crochet, pick up a
Speaker 1: new a new thing. I'm like doing reverse. Like back
Speaker 1: people were crocheting and ship and now I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: it's two. Like we're merging out of things, like I
Speaker 1: need to like just pay attention to like a little
Speaker 1: a little basic thing. That's That's what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I love the crafting. But actually, let's talk
Speaker 1: about for the record, because I do think we could
Speaker 1: create a highly monetize herble brand around the nar wall.
Speaker 1: If if the wall was just like I had an Instagram,
Speaker 1: Twitter and just put put it with the right voice performer,
Speaker 1: I think we could make magic. Maybe Chris Pratt. Let's
Speaker 1: see if he's available. Oh no, not even like Chris Pratt.
Speaker 1: What is this place? All right, let's sake a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back, and let's talk
Speaker 1: about So the mega loser that firebombed his own garage,
Speaker 1: as Miles put it in the Duck, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is I gotta say, firebombed his own ship and tried
Speaker 1: to fucking has no idea about politics at all. That
Speaker 1: he made it abundantly clear he created a new kind
Speaker 1: of political creature, which is an anarchist who is so
Speaker 1: into establishment and democratic party ship. They're an anarchist who
Speaker 1: fox mid Biden and is also a Black Lives Matter
Speaker 1: obviously that every again, all of this guy was saying
Speaker 1: I was targeted because I had a Trump flag. Honestly,
Speaker 1: like it would have been more believable if rather than anarchy,
Speaker 1: he put like malarkey, like that maybe would have been
Speaker 1: a more one to like easier to transition to that idea.
Speaker 1: But I really should stop giving notes to these people.
Speaker 1: But anyway, he was charged with fraud because obviously this
Speaker 1: ship was obviously made up and oh yeah, and then
Speaker 1: when the when the insurance people were like, bro, he
Speaker 1: set himself up like this ship is art, like we
Speaker 1: this ship. He did this ship. He then said. He
Speaker 1: then threatened the insurance and be like I'll go to
Speaker 1: the controller commerce board or whatever. He's like, I'll take
Speaker 1: this to the authorities, and then like look, asshole, like
Speaker 1: you're about to go to like court. Anyway, it's been
Speaker 1: charged with fraud. And now he's like fully admitted He's
Speaker 1: like yeah, okay, like that was okay, y'all got me.
Speaker 1: Y'all got me obviously, because I think that was part
Speaker 1: of his plea deal. And I feel bad for him
Speaker 1: because this is just a sad man who has had
Speaker 1: to spend his waking hours creating fake enemies to oppress
Speaker 1: himself with, but and ended up here. But on the
Speaker 1: right wing, they were not going to take this l
Speaker 1: like just like regular style. They had to do their
Speaker 1: best to make this part of like the broader si
Speaker 1: up which we've seen of like just this dumb sentiment
Speaker 1: that they're pushing, which is Democrats are trying to kill you.
Speaker 1: We talked like a couple of weeks ago about Marjorie
Speaker 1: Taylor Green saying, like that guy ran over the guy
Speaker 1: because he said he was a Republican. The cops are like, bro,
Speaker 1: we didn't hear anything about politics. It just sounded like
Speaker 1: some fucked up murder that like politics weren't a part
Speaker 1: of it. And like really like leaning into these stories
Speaker 1: to say Republicans are at risk for being just us
Speaker 1: hateful people and that's the problem, and on like did
Speaker 1: we see this all the time? Right? Because they whether
Speaker 1: it's they're gonna take our guns or fucking critical race
Speaker 1: theory will brainwash my kids, or the election was stolen,
Speaker 1: or liberals are making me a crime wave. It's all bullshit, right,
Speaker 1: It's all this like fucking weird fun house of horrors
Speaker 1: that constantly has like a never ending stream of like
Speaker 1: threat vectors that you have to contend with. That's how
Speaker 1: they keep their base engaged. So the the way they've
Speaker 1: had to continuously create this sort of aura, this the
Speaker 1: environment in which Republicans are constantly being attacked. And when
Speaker 1: the story first came out, even though everybody was saying, hey,
Speaker 1: this obviously looks like fraud to any fucking onlooker. I'm
Speaker 1: sure even someone like Ben Shapiro and Laura Ingram. No,
Speaker 1: anarchists aren't fucking with Biden if they have any idea
Speaker 1: of what that even means. Right, that again, they had
Speaker 1: to lean into this ship to the point to just
Speaker 1: have all these false you know, like to just equivocate,
Speaker 1: to be like, well, this is the stake and I
Speaker 1: just want to play this for you because you can
Speaker 1: hear how this is all sort of feeding this environment
Speaker 1: of fear when they're just not even being critical in
Speaker 1: the least. I'm sum him admitting to fraud is not
Speaker 1: going to come up on their show. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: not not these Yeah, they just keep him moving. None
Speaker 1: of it's off the table or fact is. Again, generic
Speaker 1: statements about violence and looting being bad are not going
Speaker 1: to cut it. We all know that if this were
Speaker 1: right wingers were performing this kind of violence, Joe Biden
Speaker 1: would be out there on I mean, technically it was
Speaker 1: right okay, but anyway on the front lines proclaiming the
Speaker 1: right wing ideology was innately linked to violence and cruelty.
Speaker 1: But as soon as it is left wingers in his
Speaker 1: coalition or out there harassing people at restaurants or burning
Speaker 1: things down or perhaps shooting police officers, as we saw
Speaker 1: in Louisville last night, well then the movement that they
Speaker 1: are linked to, the broader ideological movement they are linked to,
Speaker 1: he refuses to condemn. It's okay, blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: So this is like part in parcel of the like
Speaker 1: the same thing, like even in this like recently in Lansing,
Speaker 1: the candidate for governor in Michigan, Tutor Dixon, like showed
Speaker 1: this like car that was completely tagged up that being
Speaker 1: like and see what happens to some of these supporters
Speaker 1: out here. I just want to just look at the
Speaker 1: state of this quote unquote graffiti. It says Antifa revenge
Speaker 1: mm hmm on this fucking car. Another one says Trump
Speaker 1: Nazi scum. Okay, well in fair point. And but again
Speaker 1: it says like Antifa targeting all Trump Nazi scum. Like
Speaker 1: it's as if they're having to be like, this is
Speaker 1: what is happening in case it wasn't clear before when
Speaker 1: we just put BLM on stuff. And there again this
Speaker 1: someone who is running for the governor's office in Michigan
Speaker 1: is saying saying again, this is another example of the
Speaker 1: radical left quote fight like hell tactics courtesy of Gretchen Whitmer,
Speaker 1: come on that we we don't know the details of us,
Speaker 1: but it does. It does certainly look like a right
Speaker 1: wing person's version of a left wing You can also
Speaker 1: tell because they're not good at tagging Yeah we got
Speaker 1: we got, we got skills, like they didn't even hit
Speaker 1: the Antifa is a big NonStop. You know all my
Speaker 1: people who threw up graffiti back in the day, like
Speaker 1: I would I would be like, yo, you got skills, Okay,
Speaker 1: missed opportunity, But I mean the false flag is a
Speaker 1: standard move of fascists, Like that's how Putin came to power,
Speaker 1: was he bombed a bunch of apartment buildings in Russia
Speaker 1: and blamed it on like Russian terrorists, like domestic terrorists everybody.
Speaker 1: So I mean this is just small, small stakes version
Speaker 1: of the same thing. Yeah, it's uh, I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: this is how they this is how they're able to
Speaker 1: keep everybody lockstep with it. It's be like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: should is spooky. But again, it's just interesting because both party,
Speaker 1: both sides of the political spectrum, have their way of
Speaker 1: maintaining the status quo. Like Liberals will convince you that
Speaker 1: everything is fine and nothing needs to change because we
Speaker 1: were freaking perfect and we have solved everything, like that's
Speaker 1: their argument against progress. Conservatives convince their base that any
Speaker 1: kind of progress will result in the fiery deaths of
Speaker 1: everyone they know. I do feel like more and more
Speaker 1: the liberal stance is just gesturing towards this ship and
Speaker 1: the the actual like fascism, anti semitism, racism on on
Speaker 1: the other side, and it does become hard to argue
Speaker 1: with at a certain point, like where where they're just like, well,
Speaker 1: you have to vote because look how bad the other
Speaker 1: side has gotten, you know, like even if they're admitting,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not perfect. Biden fucked up, and
Speaker 1: they rarely admit that. They like still that that particularly
Speaker 1: part of the argument, like the the right is making
Speaker 1: it very easy for the Democrats to stay in the
Speaker 1: status quo. Like that's just they're like, okay, so you
Speaker 1: want us to go, you know, pedal to the metal
Speaker 1: with like equality. First of all, that's gonna be like expensive,
Speaker 1: and second of all, what you're gonna vote for the
Speaker 1: fucking flaming bag of ship. Yeah, well, so you know
Speaker 1: what I guess, And it's and it's a perfect deal
Speaker 1: for everybody, especially for the status quo, because you have
Speaker 1: enough people to say, nah, it ain't that bad on
Speaker 1: one side and the other people scaring the funk out
Speaker 1: of you because you're trying to give poor people a
Speaker 1: fair shake. Yeah yeah. And I mean like right now
Speaker 1: we're seeing health insurers rake in fucking record profits with
Speaker 1: public money. Yet the appetite for the establishment Democrats is
Speaker 1: to act like we just need to protect the Affordable
Speaker 1: Care Act and we are good money, right when there
Speaker 1: are so many other things, there's so many other cracks
Speaker 1: that need to be patched up or just entirely like
Speaker 1: readdressing the system as a whole to make it equitable
Speaker 1: for people. So it's easy to like you're like, well,
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's fine. It's like hearing that I keep
Speaker 1: hearing is that the c A is going to fail
Speaker 1: and collapse and so the government's going to have to
Speaker 1: come in and rescue it any ways, and so therefore
Speaker 1: you're getting there. You go, you get your single payer healthcare.
Speaker 1: Like this seems like a very inefficient way of doing that,
Speaker 1: and like that shouldn't necessarily be your argument that this
Speaker 1: thing's working, that it's going to collapse and that the
Speaker 1: second form of it is going to be good when
Speaker 1: we've seen that when things collapse in America, just look
Speaker 1: at like disaster capitalism. When things collapse in America, it
Speaker 1: goes very badly because just corporations rush in and find
Speaker 1: ways to make the balance of power and balance of
Speaker 1: who is making the money even worse for everyday people
Speaker 1: when they rush in. Yeah, I mean, we'll see, we'll
Speaker 1: see what the next outrage story jure will be. But
Speaker 1: I mean, like that's that's all they're doing, and it
Speaker 1: seems to and and and it's easy enough for people
Speaker 1: who are not trying to think too deeply to be like, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's wrong. Yeah, liberals too soft on crime, that's it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what crime is. I don't know what
Speaker 1: a criminologist is, I don't know what stats are. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I like this version what they're saying because I don't
Speaker 1: have to really think too hard about it, and I
Speaker 1: can just focus on how difficult my life is actually
Speaker 1: and right, yeah, alright, let's take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back. And we're back, and we're we're getting
Speaker 1: a bit of a clear picture of like what went
Speaker 1: on with the Tugger Carlson Kanye interview. Two nights of interviews.
Speaker 1: There were treats as like a television event where Kanye
Speaker 1: was going to reveal like the lie behind liberalism and
Speaker 1: you know that the racism is a big myth and
Speaker 1: that white lives matter. And as as we've gotten some
Speaker 1: distance from it, you know, Kanye has gone on to
Speaker 1: start tweeting and you know, posting super anti Semitic things
Speaker 1: on Instagram, and it's just it's becoming clear that he's
Speaker 1: like kind of in the midst of a you know,
Speaker 1: mental health episode, and so somebody leaked footage of things
Speaker 1: from the Tucker Carlson interview, and it made it clear
Speaker 1: that this this should have been This was evident to
Speaker 1: anyone who was in the room during the interview. It's
Speaker 1: just they edited everything out that was made it clear
Speaker 1: that Kanye is Kanye West is has normalizing anti semitism
Speaker 1: or hate, hateful rhetoric or whatever too, because I think
Speaker 1: beyond that, right, Like, I'm not here to say, well,
Speaker 1: he's mentally ill, So who knows what he's saying, is
Speaker 1: this or that, if he's raised, if his racism it's
Speaker 1: anti semitism, if you struggling with mental health, whatever it
Speaker 1: is to have a person out there saying what they're saying,
Speaker 1: and there's like a multiple levels of funked up here.
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson specifically is like, oh, I'll take advantage of
Speaker 1: this ranting person. I will selectively take out things that
Speaker 1: will help further my narrative and then insist that he
Speaker 1: is perfectly fine. Yes, on the other side of it too,
Speaker 1: because I was the other thing Tucker Carlson was saying,
Speaker 1: you know, I was like and he's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: didn't know, and like and then when they okay, but anyway,
Speaker 1: that's that's like the I think the first thing when
Speaker 1: looking at is like, wow, you really you you're you
Speaker 1: know you you found him to be very useful for you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and let's focus on the anti semitism first, because, as
Speaker 1: as we mentioned on Trends a couple of days ago,
Speaker 1: Fox News expressed outrage the morning after Kanye West posted
Speaker 1: a bunch of anti Semitic things on social media and
Speaker 1: was banned by the social media platforms. They expressed they
Speaker 1: were like, this is just them targeting people. This is
Speaker 1: you know, just treating him as a free speech martyr.
Speaker 1: And then when you know, the people started being like, yo,
Speaker 1: that is so you guys are coming out as full
Speaker 1: throated anti semits, they backtracked sort of. They were like, sorry,
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen the tweets he was banned for before
Speaker 1: we started reporting on the tweets he was banned for.
Speaker 1: Like it was very confusing, like what what their argument was.
Speaker 1: But they also were still saying, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: like the banning, banning people for saying this stuff is
Speaker 1: is dangerous because then you don't know about the anti
Speaker 1: semitism that is out there, which is you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know. And they also said like he should have
Speaker 1: basically known better that he would be targeted for saying
Speaker 1: something like that. So it seems like everything coming out
Speaker 1: of Fox is like suggesting that they have an anti
Speaker 1: Semitic agenda, and artists like here are are basically here
Speaker 1: for it. And this makes that crystal clear. So that
Speaker 1: these are things that were said during the during the
Speaker 1: Kanye West interview that they just edited out and pretend
Speaker 1: it never happened. So at one point, when complaining that
Speaker 1: his children are going to school that celebrates Kwanza, Kanye
Speaker 1: West added, I prefer kids knew un my kids knew Hanakah,
Speaker 1: then Kwanza at least it will come with some financial engineering.
Speaker 1: So that's, you know, reflecting the belief that Jews control
Speaker 1: the financial system. It's one of the oldest, most deeply
Speaker 1: rooted anti Semitic claims that He also said, I just
Speaker 1: I trust Latinos when I you know, when I work
Speaker 1: with them, I trust them more than he paused, I'll
Speaker 1: be safe certain other businessmen, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Carlson did not ask which businessmen those might be, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm picking it up, and then he had another one,
Speaker 1: another one that like didn't make the airs. He's hit here.
Speaker 1: He said, think about us judging each other on how
Speaker 1: white we could talk would be like, you know, a
Speaker 1: Jewish person judging another Jewish person on how good they
Speaker 1: danced or something. And then he said, I mean that's
Speaker 1: probably like a bad example, and people are going to
Speaker 1: get mad at that ship. I probably want to edit
Speaker 1: that out. M hmm. But then so Tucker Carlson then
Speaker 1: comes along and in his introduction to the interview is like,
Speaker 1: this is the same man. This is you, you judge.
Speaker 1: I think this is somebody who knows what they're talking
Speaker 1: about and tries to, you know, use these small portions
Speaker 1: of the interview to build a an argument around, you know,
Speaker 1: anything that agrees with his viewpoints, except for, you know,
Speaker 1: anti Semitism, which I'm sure he doesn't openly admit is
Speaker 1: one of his viewpoints. There's a clip that I think
Speaker 1: cat Abu put on Twitter that's kind of showing how
Speaker 1: the on I think it was Monday's show when Tucker
Speaker 1: Carlson like revisits the whole Kanye thing and completely ignores
Speaker 1: the ship he was a fucking witness to motherfucker. He
Speaker 1: was saying it to you, So I don't act surprised
Speaker 1: unless you you know, like, let's like, don't be so
Speaker 1: foolish year. And it's like an interesting cut of like
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson praising what Kanye would like Kanye West while
Speaker 1: like sort of splice seeing that with the clips that
Speaker 1: actually didn't even make it to air, just to kind
Speaker 1: of show how fucking duplicit as this guy is. Is
Speaker 1: West crazy? You can judge for yourself as you watch
Speaker 1: what we're about to show you. I prefer my kids
Speaker 1: new Hanaka and Quanza. At least it will come with
Speaker 1: some financial engineering. He has his own ideas. We can
Speaker 1: say that Planned Parenthood was made by Margaret Sanger, a
Speaker 1: known eugenics with the KKK two control the jew population.
Speaker 1: But crazy, that was not our conclusion. When I say ju,
Speaker 1: I mean the twelve Lost Tribes of Judah, the blood
Speaker 1: of Christ, who the race the people known as the
Speaker 1: race Black really are I mean, there's just hearing that right,
Speaker 1: Like you know again, this is what's so fucked up,
Speaker 1: because he's clearly just being like, look, this is great
Speaker 1: for me, because you know the way conservative, especially in
Speaker 1: the right wing things They're like, if it comes out
Speaker 1: of a black or a personal care's mouth, it means
Speaker 1: it's the fucking it's the truth. That's it, end of
Speaker 1: the argument. Because this person who we have, you know,
Speaker 1: we've mothered our entire lives, came to this side and
Speaker 1: said the thing that we agree with there it is,
Speaker 1: there it is and two then put you know, like
Speaker 1: c clearly they're just it's like it's just disgusting at
Speaker 1: every level. Like this guy is, like Kanyie is how
Speaker 1: you're saying the worst ship not not being aware of
Speaker 1: the damage he's doing, not confronting whatever his fucking beliefs
Speaker 1: are at this point, whatever whatever it is that he believes.
Speaker 1: And then you have this guy who's like doing it
Speaker 1: in service of like white supremacy, and yeah, it's so.
Speaker 1: He also edited out a claim from Kanye that fake
Speaker 1: children have been placed in his house to manipulate his children.
Speaker 1: He says in the thing to he's saying this too,
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson, in the same room with Tucker Carlson, I
Speaker 1: mean like actors, professional actors placed into my house to
Speaker 1: sexualized my kid, which these professional actors are like children
Speaker 1: that are playing with kids of his friends kids of
Speaker 1: his friends. But he claims that we never believed that
Speaker 1: this person was her son because he was way smarter
Speaker 1: than her, right, which I can just attest as true
Speaker 1: of my children. They're already smarter than me. So that's
Speaker 1: not evidence of anybody being a fake child. But he
Speaker 1: also like so that specific claim that like actors are here,
Speaker 1: I mean that that is something that's common on the right.
Speaker 1: It's also like he has spoken about living with bipolar
Speaker 1: disorder and experiencing manic episodes, and in a twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: interview with Letterman David Letterman, he said, when you're in
Speaker 1: this state, you're hyper paranoid about everything. Everyone. This is
Speaker 1: my experience. Other people have different experiences. Everyone now is
Speaker 1: an actor. Everything's a conspiracy. So, like it couldn't be
Speaker 1: clearer that he is in like going through a mental
Speaker 1: health break, like a mental break, that is something he's
Speaker 1: experienced before and has spoken about before, and they tugger
Speaker 1: Carlson is just using that to to make his points,
Speaker 1: which just I mean, but there's also a room for
Speaker 1: Kanye to actually be a violent, anti semi racist, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, like that's what's kind of weird right now,
Speaker 1: is like the discussion is almost people are trying to
Speaker 1: be like either or about and it's not. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: if this is a way more nuanced situation, and I
Speaker 1: get like, I think for some people because they're used
Speaker 1: to not seeing like men in the public eye struggle
Speaker 1: with their mental health or something that it's like it's
Speaker 1: just him being him, right, But that's that's also like
Speaker 1: this is who knows where it escalates because he's been
Speaker 1: doing he's been threatening people, he's been like you know
Speaker 1: the ship that like Kim Kardashians shared like about their interactions.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that says, oh, unchecked, this ends in a
Speaker 1: very good place for everyone involved. Like he's that the
Speaker 1: I'm being used by Tucker Carlson and I'm like vibing
Speaker 1: with the alt right phase of this evolution right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mental health struggles have frequently coincided with anti semitism, Like
Speaker 1: people you know, Bobby Fisher was like the this chess
Speaker 1: prodigy who eventually you know, had a breakdown and became
Speaker 1: like the way that that manifested itself was a lot
Speaker 1: of anti semitism. That that's something that comes out and
Speaker 1: like to a person struggling with their mental health like
Speaker 1: that that's not necessarily a defense, and it's certainly not
Speaker 1: defending what they're saying in any way. It's saying that
Speaker 1: this is a you know, a disordered way of thinking
Speaker 1: that also coincides with the viewpoints that you're putting out
Speaker 1: on your fucking show, Tucker Carlson, you know, like that's
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that's the endorsement they think
Speaker 1: it is, or like the the best argument in the
Speaker 1: world for being like, well, don't don't bother him or
Speaker 1: you know, criticize him because he's going through this, or
Speaker 1: you know, it's like, well, you are using these things
Speaker 1: that are happening during a crisis in this person's life
Speaker 1: and you and the things that are coming out as
Speaker 1: they're going through this crisis are the things that line
Speaker 1: up with what you say every night on your fucking show.
Speaker 1: So like, I don't know, it just feels like such
Speaker 1: a smoking gun, Like so we can all agree this
Speaker 1: is fucked right, but Tuck Tuckers like, yo, look at this,
Speaker 1: I'm just normalizing some anti semitic shit on there too,
Speaker 1: And I don't have to say it, right, that's the
Speaker 1: other dimension of this too, Like yeah, because those words
Speaker 1: are now coming out into the public sphere, and you
Speaker 1: see it like it's every almost every marginalized group can
Speaker 1: can draw a straight line to talking this weird ship
Speaker 1: out loud in public and letting that cook without you know,
Speaker 1: repercussions and then some kind of violent outcome. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was also just like this would be the big story
Speaker 1: if it weren't or all all the other stuff we
Speaker 1: just talked about. But Tugger Carlson during the interview said,
Speaker 1: do you feel at times you were manipulated by political
Speaker 1: forces through your wife? And Kanye West said like he
Speaker 1: didn't know how close Kim Kardashian was to the Clintons
Speaker 1: during that time they were married, So of course you
Speaker 1: know that that overlaps with so many conspiracies and beliefs
Speaker 1: held by viewers of Fox News. And then he said,
Speaker 1: I mean I was vaccinated. They edited that part out
Speaker 1: of the conversation. So and Tugger Carlson has aired like
Speaker 1: false and dangerous claims aimed at discouraging people from getting
Speaker 1: vaccinated throughout the course of the run of his show.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's just like flagrant malpractice of humanity. Like
Speaker 1: just like I guess he's not a journalist, but it's
Speaker 1: we knew that flagrant just you know, disregard, immoral, disregard
Speaker 1: for another human being, for an entire race of human beings,
Speaker 1: for just everything about these detail screen that the show
Speaker 1: should be like should not exist, but of course it will.
Speaker 1: It's one of the most popular shows in America. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yeah, you're getting this just unfiltered anti semitism. And
Speaker 1: and it's not Like what's interesting too, is he's not
Speaker 1: going to get the kind of backlash for editing this
Speaker 1: ship out Tucker Carlson, you know, and if anything, it's
Speaker 1: probably gonna draw his audience towards those outtakes too and
Speaker 1: be like, well, what do you say, what do you say?
Speaker 1: That was so about? What? Oh? Oh interesting? What does
Speaker 1: that mean? What's this? What's that? What's this concept? Like
Speaker 1: it's that's what's so fucking dangerous about all of it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's just so it's just wild to watch this
Speaker 1: like intersection of like media synicism, like our an ability
Speaker 1: to like sort of like like grapple that celebrities are
Speaker 1: humans who are like are flawed to and just yeah,
Speaker 1: the thing's got it all and it's sucking putriot. Yeah, dark. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's definitely being used, Like you just see that they're
Speaker 1: taking advantage of this particular moment. Yeah, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure what the what Yeah what where
Speaker 1: where this ends up or like you know, because clearly,
Speaker 1: like Kanye West is losing business opportunities, opportunities, et cetera.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that really affects him in the
Speaker 1: long term because he does have a ton of money.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just it's I think what's to me,
Speaker 1: like the most cynical version is I'm like, Wow, what
Speaker 1: a better way to normalize anti Semitism for a generation
Speaker 1: of young people than that have Kanye West say some ship?
Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean? Like, and that's what's
Speaker 1: That's what's also fucking freaking me out because he also
Speaker 1: he there's so many people who still fucking rock with
Speaker 1: this guy, right and they're like, yeah, man, he's speaking
Speaker 1: the truth. I'm like, you're fucking twenty three. You don't
Speaker 1: know anything. And I mean, like I get I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to say you don't know shit or be dismissive
Speaker 1: of like your age or whatever, but like you're if
Speaker 1: you look up to Kanye West and you are taking
Speaker 1: these takes at face value, You're just taking them seriously.
Speaker 1: That's a huge issue. And it almost feels like if
Speaker 1: that's like, you know, if Steve Bannon was like I've
Speaker 1: identified the gamers as like a malleable group to like
Speaker 1: bring into like the the right wing, that like if
Speaker 1: you can use like this like influence that you know,
Speaker 1: like someone like Kanye West has and be like, maybe
Speaker 1: I can shift a whole segment of culture in a
Speaker 1: different direction and take advantage of the fact that this
Speaker 1: guy will say whatever because he doesn't care or know
Speaker 1: what he's doing, and that you know, that serves a
Speaker 1: darker purpose. That is why like everything about it, like
Speaker 1: I just feel fucking gross. It's horrible. It's horrible, but
Speaker 1: it is a reflection of like a really dark place
Speaker 1: that are culture has has gone to. And like this
Speaker 1: all makes sense given what we know of you know,
Speaker 1: we're just the stakes and you know a lot of
Speaker 1: people are like that maybe Kanye is the next Trump,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, like that maybe this does connect
Speaker 1: with a bunch of anti semits who you know, it
Speaker 1: seems like there's more of that out there than anyone
Speaker 1: was hoping. And I don't know, I mean I kind
Speaker 1: of got into politics. He would start seeing how much
Speaker 1: how little power people of color have been there, and
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd have something to say again or not,
Speaker 1: maybe he'll come full circle and be like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is why it's supposed to be. But like whatever fucking spooky,
Speaker 1: fucked up ship. Yeah all right, well, Jackie, truly a
Speaker 1: pleasure as always having you on the daily zeitgeist. Where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you, hear you all that
Speaker 1: good stuff? You can follow me at Jackie Comedy j
Speaker 1: A C K I E. I've really enjoyed hanging out
Speaker 1: with you guys today, Jackie. Is there a tweet or
Speaker 1: some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes,
Speaker 1: this is amazing tweet by Alyssa. I can never pronounce
Speaker 1: her last name. I think it's Limp Paris. She's an
Speaker 1: amazing comedian and it's just Jamie Lee Curtis saying the
Speaker 1: word trauma over and over again. But it's her. It
Speaker 1: says me making small talk at a bachelorette party, and
Speaker 1: that so fucking funny. And also like everyone in the
Speaker 1: chat is like, wait a second, she's saying trauma, trauma
Speaker 1: instead of trauma, and it's sparked a whole conversation about
Speaker 1: how we've been talking about the wounds from childhood, using
Speaker 1: the wrong word and pronouncing it incorrectly. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: I love this comic. She's so fucking funny and uh
Speaker 1: this this is I've been sending this to everybody lately.
Speaker 1: So me at a making small talk at a bachelor party. Yeah, yeah, Miles,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? What the tweet you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray
Speaker 1: and a new episode of Miles and Jack Got Mad
Speaker 1: Boosey's just dropped today, So why don't you check that
Speaker 1: out to here? Jack and I talk basket ball, talking
Speaker 1: Victor wemban Yama talking about my just a fever dream
Speaker 1: that is being a Lakers fans. I started coming around
Speaker 1: on the Lakers this season. I'm feeling worse and worse
Speaker 1: about the Sixers, but I'm starting to feel good about
Speaker 1: the Lakers because Anthony Davis looks awesome. Hey, Like I said,
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves gave one little shoulder fake to Steph Curt
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hang up the banners, please fast forward
Speaker 1: and also find me on for fiance with Sophia Alexandra.
Speaker 1: Some tweets that I like. The first one is and
Speaker 1: there's this thing. It's from praguer You. The person who
Speaker 1: tweeted it was at Mexican Wild Dog tweeted this picture
Speaker 1: is like a two panel tweet. The first one said
Speaker 1: it was from praguer You. It said what would America
Speaker 1: look like if we got everything we wanted? And then
Speaker 1: the second side. I don't know if you've seen that
Speaker 1: clip where people are smoking like a blunt in a
Speaker 1: McDonald's drive through and like the person at the window
Speaker 1: smoking a blunt, and then like a person from the
Speaker 1: car in the front, like in front of them is
Speaker 1: also like trying to hit the blunt. This is sorry,
Speaker 1: this music is playing during it and anyway, without getting
Speaker 1: without getting dinged on the sound sweepers, what happens is
Speaker 1: it's just a drive through line where everybody is getting
Speaker 1: out of their car sharing like a couple of blunts.
Speaker 1: Then somebody comes from behind brings their blunt. Then they
Speaker 1: give the blunt to the dude at the drive through window.
Speaker 1: He hits the blunt and again Craiger you, yes, I
Speaker 1: believe that is a very that's a very good summation
Speaker 1: of this is the future that that the left would want.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey man, we're just we're just surviving. And
Speaker 1: then another one is where is it at? And then
Speaker 1: finally no Ah garfen call at a garfen Go tweeted,
Speaker 1: I grew up in Cabot Cove and a lot of
Speaker 1: us feel she exploited our massive murder problem for profit.
Speaker 1: Maybe keep that in mind. In response to the passing
Speaker 1: Evangela Lansbury from Murder, she wrote, because obviously Cabot Cove
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, what the funk was going on in
Speaker 1: that town? Small town? A murder a week? Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: Uh tweet I've been enjoying. So Toby tweeted, what's something
Speaker 1: that you think our parents, its generation got right but
Speaker 1: we're failing at And Chad Ston tweeted stereos they used
Speaker 1: to have a big cabinet size sets with wood paneling
Speaker 1: and the two speakers that looked like they were stolen
Speaker 1: from a dance hall. We got an egg that's recording
Speaker 1: our conversations for the police. That yeah, it's about right.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
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Speaker 1: we post our episodes and our footnoe where we link
Speaker 1: off to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what song do we think people might enjoy? Yo? I
Speaker 1: found a really cool band. They're called Say She She
Speaker 1: s a Y s H s H. They are like,
Speaker 1: as they described, disco delic band, so like psychedelic disco.
Speaker 1: Is this trio email lead disco delic Crow And they're
Speaker 1: like really into Nil Rogers, who's obviously one of the
Speaker 1: greatest producers of all time, and like it's sort of
Speaker 1: a nod denial Rogers, but damn this ship sounds like
Speaker 1: like lost trippy disco tapes from the seventies. But they're
Speaker 1: like they're like a crew now, like they're from people
Speaker 1: from like London and Brooklyn. So check out Say She
Speaker 1: She This track is called blow My Mind uh, and
Speaker 1: it's just a really really dope track. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to hear the rest of their music. So shout out
Speaker 1: to the female lead disco Delic Trio. If those words
Speaker 1: interest you by all means, listen to this track called
Speaker 1: below My Mind say she she alright well. The Daily
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