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Speaker 1: B A writer Mark Schindler. I'm Miles Gray and I'm
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Speaker 1: B A dime writer one of his favorite players going
Speaker 1: up Antonio mcdice. Yeah, I'm like, I like that pick on, Mark,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the show Man. How you doing. I'm good.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for having me on. A dude. For
Speaker 1: anybody who's never watched Prime Antonio mcdice before you had
Speaker 1: the knee injuries, go do it. He was Unreal in
Speaker 1: Denver and a couple of seasons in Phoenix too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: any anything basketball, I'm I'm there, and you seem like
Speaker 1: a younger man were you? How how old were you
Speaker 1: when mcdice was peaked? Was not born yet when McDuck.
Speaker 1: So you're a fan through the through the tape? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so I I mean like I spend my spare time
Speaker 1: just going back and watching old hoop on on YouTube.
Speaker 1: So that was how I really got into it, especially
Speaker 1: during the pandemic. I watched the tone of old, old
Speaker 1: old basketball. Socce was your takeaway, like everybody was sleeping
Speaker 1: on mcdice was awesome. Yeah, that's definitely somebody who I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people need to look at today.
Speaker 1: And even like random shop, like when he was with
Speaker 1: the Pistons is like they're six man. He was still
Speaker 1: really good then too. Yeah people FORGID So yeah, I
Speaker 1: like that. You're like, you know what, there's there might
Speaker 1: not be some sports on them, but let me go
Speaker 1: back into the history books, let me educate myself, and
Speaker 1: you come out with that. I was in my binder
Speaker 1: right now because I was alive when Antonio mcdyce was playing,
Speaker 1: and I'm like I know I have his rookie card
Speaker 1: in here somewhere. But all that to say, I am
Speaker 1: old and so is Jack. We are we are, we
Speaker 1: were witnesses. Y'all are washed? Ok? Yeah, yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: Antonio mac dice at the Forum. Maybe you got the
Speaker 1: Great Western Forum. Honey, get ready for some washed NBA takes.
Speaker 1: So you're a big Pacers guy, huh Yeah, So it's funny.
Speaker 1: I grew up in Cleveland, still live in Cleveland right now.
Speaker 1: But I didn't really get into hoops until shoot, like
Speaker 1: right after Lebron left. So I fell in love with
Speaker 1: Pacers and then we don't have to talk about what
Speaker 1: happened after that. But uh, not really a fan anymore.
Speaker 1: Just love the game. But that was like really my
Speaker 1: introduction basketball. Were those teams that one tote or toe
Speaker 1: with with the heat Roy Hibbert's the changing the way
Speaker 1: the hoop was defended, that was so much that they
Speaker 1: had to change the rules around it. Yeah, I'm still
Speaker 1: salty about that. But great guest star on Parks and
Speaker 1: rec also, Yeah, it was him in doubt lift right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: still one of my favorite actors. I've always said that.
Speaker 1: I said that before Parks and Oh you that lift
Speaker 1: had screen magnetism. You gotta see Rick Smits. He's in
Speaker 1: the new Scorsesey film put amazing perform So how are
Speaker 1: you feeling, So You're you're not like still live and
Speaker 1: die with every Pacers game. No, not at all. Oh god,
Speaker 1: that'd be terrible. Um. Yeah, so I'm just now having
Speaker 1: back in the fandom with with the Cleveland Guardians in baseball.
Speaker 1: But no, I'm I. I still cover the team over
Speaker 1: a destionation. But I am not really a fan anymore.
Speaker 1: But I watch every game, so I may as well
Speaker 1: be a fan some days. But there you go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like that that young take of like tapping back
Speaker 1: into fandom like a thing you turn on and off.
Speaker 1: That feels like advanced, like you are a further generation
Speaker 1: the because I can't I can't turn it off. I
Speaker 1: had the level up. It helped because like I was,
Speaker 1: I was, I was that weirdly growing up like all
Speaker 1: my family, most of my families from Michigan um and
Speaker 1: my dad went to Ohio State, so all my family
Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I'm gonna go to Michigan
Speaker 1: State instead. Like I was always like the kid who
Speaker 1: like growing up going to do like a different thing,
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, exact put myself down the middle, you know.
Speaker 1: All right, So should we get right into what's getting
Speaker 1: us excited from the preseason, because there's there's so much happening,
Speaker 1: Like just we talked last week about how this this
Speaker 1: is the part of the season where one performance and
Speaker 1: my mind is like racing off to like we are
Speaker 1: in the John Wall renaissance. I'm ready for I'm That's
Speaker 1: that's the clip I want to talk about first. Just
Speaker 1: John Wall keeps coming back from injury. I keep expecting,
Speaker 1: like his game's gonna have to have adapted a little bit,
Speaker 1: and you know, he'll he'll be we'll see a different
Speaker 1: John Wall. And he comes back and he's still like
Speaker 1: just knifing through defense, is getting the ball at the court,
Speaker 1: putting it behind his back, like getting to the cup.
Speaker 1: Like so just appears to be moving at a different
Speaker 1: speed than everybody else on the court. Um still has
Speaker 1: the ball on a string. You're like, well, we see
Speaker 1: what happens that that explosiveness you know, after an injury.
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, this guy is accelerating to the point where
Speaker 1: his like center of gravity is so far ahead of him,
Speaker 1: like most people will fall down moving that fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um yeah, it's he's just good at being fast. It seems.
Speaker 1: As a Laker fan, wow, wow, you love to see that.
Speaker 1: I love because as not a Laker fan and somebody
Speaker 1: who can look at the Clippers with clear eyes and
Speaker 1: a warm heart, I do think that this is a
Speaker 1: very exciting development. If John Wall is back and playing
Speaker 1: well in the regular season, they're even scarier than Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that's true. You a Wall fan, any any
Speaker 1: particular preseason action that's got you excited right now? So
Speaker 1: I do love me some John Wall number one if
Speaker 1: you guys wrote his player tribute article. But I'm reading
Speaker 1: him again, like growing up watching him a Kentucky like
Speaker 1: that was the first uh first like hoop mixtape I
Speaker 1: really saw on YouTube was like whoa, okay, Like this
Speaker 1: is right, that's that's awesome. Like never forget remember he
Speaker 1: went to like kind of a smaller school and he
Speaker 1: just yeah, I all, I go back to that every
Speaker 1: couple of months and just that's like a feed of athleticism.
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody will ever recreate. But um no,
Speaker 1: he's looked good. I think even in Houston he had
Speaker 1: moments of looking good A lot um, trying to rein
Speaker 1: in some of his tendencies because he still has that
Speaker 1: straight line speed. But the biggest thing I've noticed with
Speaker 1: him is his lift isn't the same and I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's ever going to get back to that
Speaker 1: um which is you know, his finishing hasn't been quite
Speaker 1: there at the rim. But I still think, like again,
Speaker 1: like when he has the vision he has and um,
Speaker 1: he's a good catch and shoot player. It's a lot
Speaker 1: of it's just his off the dribble shots from mid
Speaker 1: range and inside the arcer, I mean, and outside the
Speaker 1: arcer a little bit wayward. So I'm interested to see
Speaker 1: how he can really tap in, uh, you know, playing
Speaker 1: alongside Pug and in Kauai, and it seems like Roggie
Speaker 1: Jackson's gonna be the starter moving forward. So I'm just
Speaker 1: really interested to see how he can play. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm considering everything he's gone through, I'm pretty confident he's
Speaker 1: gonna be able to rewire a little bit and and
Speaker 1: really thrive in l A. Yeah, it's kind of cool
Speaker 1: to see him just like deployed as a weapon, you know,
Speaker 1: like a specific weapon that comes out and you know,
Speaker 1: like a literal change of pace because again, he is
Speaker 1: quicker than everybody else on the court, so he's just
Speaker 1: getting the ball up like the lift. The lift is
Speaker 1: bad if you're doing it in traffic, but if everybody's
Speaker 1: three steps behind you, you're in good shape exactly. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's exciting, Uh, really exciting. Plans have been fun seeing
Speaker 1: Zion back on court, Like not even just back on court,
Speaker 1: but like I think, I mean, it's the best he's
Speaker 1: looks since she was a duke. Um, Like he was
Speaker 1: pretty I think he was all NBA his last healthy issuear.
Speaker 1: But I mean that was the best he's granted it's preseason,
Speaker 1: but the best he's looked defensively. Um, just sure in
Speaker 1: shape wise. Yeah, since he's coming to the league and
Speaker 1: I am like ready to get irrational about that team.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean it's that smile. That smile was
Speaker 1: like just so fun to you know. We after it
Speaker 1: was like the night of our last recording, Jabar was like, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, like Zions Zion's coming on right now,
Speaker 1: turned on T n T and like he was smiling
Speaker 1: for the first twenty five minutes that I was watching.
Speaker 1: I feel like every time they cut to him, he
Speaker 1: was just having yet eared to ear smile, which for
Speaker 1: fans of opposing teams are opposing players, probably came off
Speaker 1: more like the smile from the horror movie that everyone's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, going to see right now. But for me,
Speaker 1: it just felt like, I don't know, it's like a
Speaker 1: reciprocal relationship where he likes doing this as much as
Speaker 1: I like watching him do this, Like he just seems
Speaker 1: to really love being Zion Williamson when he's on a
Speaker 1: basketball court, which is um, I don't know. If nobody's
Speaker 1: putting the Zion smile on the Smile movie poster, they
Speaker 1: needed to do that, yeah, and they need to do
Speaker 1: that now because it's different than just being like, you know,
Speaker 1: game face, like I'm back, like I've had this tenacity.
Speaker 1: The smile is like him with his body and skill
Speaker 1: set him being like and that version is Zion is
Speaker 1: scarier to me than like I'm focused, like the fact
Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna express myself and you know, you
Speaker 1: know I can do pretty much anything. Yeah. It looks
Speaker 1: like if somebody's like driving an amazing like performance vehicle
Speaker 1: for the first time and they're just like this is
Speaker 1: so fun, Like this shouldn't be legal. How much fun
Speaker 1: this is? Like that looks like how he's feeling just
Speaker 1: being back on a basketball court and realizing, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I could do all these amazing things that I was
Speaker 1: doing when they let me run the offense for the
Speaker 1: Pelicans a couple of years back. And it does to
Speaker 1: your point, like it seems like he's more of a
Speaker 1: stopper on the defensive end, like he's just got he's
Speaker 1: got his timing down and he's doing things two shots
Speaker 1: that um, you know, he had that one block where
Speaker 1: he blocked the three coming from the other side of
Speaker 1: the court at Duke one of my favorite basketball highlights,
Speaker 1: uh in years. That's I still talk about it all
Speaker 1: the time. Super producer on a hosaner from our other shows, like, uh, well,
Speaker 1: this guy that's talking about Zion Willson in that block,
Speaker 1: it's like he just caught it in midair or something
Speaker 1: or just like I just want to take it away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: caught it three ft after a three, like three ft
Speaker 1: after it left someone's hand. That should be impossible, but
Speaker 1: that is one of the preseason performances that's got me excited.
Speaker 1: And then I'm just gonna see the core because the
Speaker 1: other one they got me really excited. Was a D
Speaker 1: look looking cool with the hair grown out, a little
Speaker 1: beard growth, and just looked like old a D just
Speaker 1: hitting some all over the court, blocking everything that went up.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm looking at a picture of like an
Speaker 1: ex who I just never forgot. I'm like, that's right,
Speaker 1: please come back to me, because I mean again, I
Speaker 1: feel like if with him looking healthy obviously, remember last
Speaker 1: week we were making jokes when he had that like
Speaker 1: back break, like that back brace on and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: he looks like my grandpa doing yard work, but like
Speaker 1: and we're like, I don't know how how well that's
Speaker 1: gonna bode for us. But then he's actually playing like this,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, if that helps me feel good, and
Speaker 1: given how well the Lakers are able to play when
Speaker 1: him and Lebron are both healthy, puts me in a
Speaker 1: slightly more elevated mood. And that's the most I'm willing
Speaker 1: to give myself at the momentum. But yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It is nice to see so the Pelicans you're picked
Speaker 1: to be like this year's Memphis, Like the t I
Speaker 1: guess it's not exactly like this year's Memphis. Beak as Memphis.
Speaker 1: Like people weren't on Memphis at this point in the
Speaker 1: preseason last year. It took a little while and you know,
Speaker 1: they had a slow start, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, wait, Memphis hasn't lost in a
Speaker 1: couple of months. Uh that we should probably be paying
Speaker 1: attention to them. Um, but do you do you? I
Speaker 1: I feel like more people are on the Pelicans. Who
Speaker 1: who's your pick for? Like a team that could kind
Speaker 1: of come out of nowhere. Oh man, that's a tough question,
Speaker 1: I will say in the Pelicans like that? Uh I
Speaker 1: think that? Or not even I think like I normally
Speaker 1: you can ask to bar like I don't do takes
Speaker 1: like I I like just seeing how things are full.
Speaker 1: But watching this team preseason and just you know how
Speaker 1: they kind of came together last year. I think this
Speaker 1: is the year that they have their first fifty one
Speaker 1: season in New Orleans. Um since the Horsets were there.
Speaker 1: So it would be like oh seven and eight when
Speaker 1: it was the Chris Paul David West Mope that team. Um,
Speaker 1: I think that happens this year. I think they get
Speaker 1: home court advantage. Granted a lot of things have to
Speaker 1: go right, but I see that with them the team
Speaker 1: that I think could kind of come out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: I think that one was sounds tough. Just be risky
Speaker 1: with it, be loose with it, risky. No one's gonna
Speaker 1: come back and be like Mark here. It also might
Speaker 1: not be a year for people coming out of nowhere
Speaker 1: because there's so many teams that were like there was
Speaker 1: room for a team to come out of nowhere last
Speaker 1: year because so many teams were like banged up, like
Speaker 1: the Clippers are now coming back at full strength, So
Speaker 1: it might be just a year. And also because Memphis
Speaker 1: came out of nowhere last year, everyone's like, who's this
Speaker 1: year's Memphis, So it's not like nobody's on you know, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: which was my pick. I still I think that that
Speaker 1: might be interesting. And I think it's just because Gobert
Speaker 1: is so impactful, but people don't want him to be
Speaker 1: and so like my my take is not a basketball take,
Speaker 1: it's like a cultural take that like people just aren't
Speaker 1: aren't appreciating how much Gobert does on the court because
Speaker 1: they just like the stuff he does is kind of
Speaker 1: not as exciting. And also I think people just generally
Speaker 1: have a anti Gobert s and so that it's purely
Speaker 1: as like guys take not not anything to do with
Speaker 1: basketball other than knowing that it's good to have a
Speaker 1: rim stopper. Yeah, I'd agree with that. Um. I think
Speaker 1: again it's like less out of nowhere. But I do
Speaker 1: think the Heat are surprised people this year, which it
Speaker 1: sounds like crazy to say that they were a shot
Speaker 1: away from going to the finals last year, But I
Speaker 1: think that's what's kind of interesting to me. I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are really picking them to
Speaker 1: regress this season when in a lot of ways I
Speaker 1: think they could get better. Like losing p J. Tucker
Speaker 1: certainly hurts. I don't think that he's quite as impactful
Speaker 1: as he gets made out to be. Sometimes not a
Speaker 1: shot at him, just like you know, I think that
Speaker 1: they'll have guys stepping up. Who I I believe we're
Speaker 1: going to take a step. I feel like we say
Speaker 1: this every year, but I think this is the Bam year. Um,
Speaker 1: like the year where he really takes that step and
Speaker 1: cements himself as like a top fifteen player instead of
Speaker 1: being like you know, it's coasting around top twenty five,
Speaker 1: top thirty and having those whole lips um. Victor Oladipo
Speaker 1: looks really good. I think, to me, like that's the
Speaker 1: thing that I'm looking at. He had really good moments
Speaker 1: in the playoffs when he was able to get his
Speaker 1: feet under him. I think he only he didn't even
Speaker 1: play like twenty games with the Heat including the playoffs
Speaker 1: last year. Duncan Robinson looks like a basketball player again,
Speaker 1: uh in preseason, which is nice to see um. And
Speaker 1: I think Kyle Lowry he had like just a lot
Speaker 1: of weirdness with like I know, he had issued like
Speaker 1: family issues that kept him off court and ended up
Speaker 1: hurting his conditioning. That's not to you know, excuses play
Speaker 1: last year, but I do think that there could be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a bounce back from him. So
Speaker 1: I think the Heat are going to be a lot
Speaker 1: better than like they're they're normally getting protected like a
Speaker 1: five or six feet or something right now. I think
Speaker 1: they could end up being pretty good. Yeah they right,
Speaker 1: I mean they have the same players that they did
Speaker 1: last year when they were the one seed, So yeah,
Speaker 1: that that'll be interesting. Who did p J. Tucker go
Speaker 1: to because oh the Philadelphia seventy Sisters, right, I've heard
Speaker 1: people pick them as like kind of being good this year.
Speaker 1: I guess that was somewhere but maybe interesting. Interesting do
Speaker 1: you how do you feel about Denver because that's the
Speaker 1: that's the other team that I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people are picking to kind of take take a leap
Speaker 1: just have Jamal Murray back. But yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't want to say uh, I don't want to go
Speaker 1: as far as saying like they need it to be
Speaker 1: this year, but I do think they're kind of like
Speaker 1: obviously Nicole Kich is reigning MVP. He's awesome, But in
Speaker 1: terms of what this core is right now, I think
Speaker 1: like this is this is an opportunity where they really
Speaker 1: need to take full advantage of it because I think
Speaker 1: you look at how everything else is going to Western. Granted,
Speaker 1: it can change drastically in the next month and a
Speaker 1: half two months, just like it did last year. UM,
Speaker 1: Memphis doesn't have Jaren Jackson Jr. For the first I
Speaker 1: think two or three months of this season. He might
Speaker 1: not be back till January. Um, you have Michael Porter
Speaker 1: Junior back, Jamal Murray's back. They revamped the roster a
Speaker 1: little bit, like they have more options on the wing.
Speaker 1: UM overall, like, I think this is the best all
Speaker 1: around supporting cast that they've had in Denver. You have
Speaker 1: the weirdness going on with Phoenix, which grand I still
Speaker 1: think Phoenix is gonna be a good team, but you
Speaker 1: just kind of never know. We've seen I mean as
Speaker 1: as Miles gonna test you with with the Lakers, vibes
Speaker 1: have a tendency to kind of ruin things. So um,
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how that plays out. But I
Speaker 1: think there's a real opportunity for Denver to slide and
Speaker 1: be that top team and even if they're not necessarily
Speaker 1: the ones you'd like, Yeah, this is a big year
Speaker 1: for them in terms of title contention. Yeah. I feel
Speaker 1: like the Eastern Conference point about Miami, like what if
Speaker 1: it's just Miami in Boston again? Like it very like
Speaker 1: those teams got Like I don't know, I think I
Speaker 1: think people are off of them because they're bored by
Speaker 1: them more than any like real basketball reasons. So I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can see Boston Miami just being in
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference finals again. But we will see. All right,
Speaker 1: let's say a quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about when bang Yama and we're back back. Oh, man,
Speaker 1: so I'm getting a little choked up because this Victor guy, Um,
Speaker 1: he's talking about him all summer. That's been you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's the offseason. We we haven't had a lot
Speaker 1: of basketball actions, so we just the clips started trickling
Speaker 1: in and you'd be like, man, he looks good. And
Speaker 1: then the next clip. I don't know if they're just
Speaker 1: we were seeing old clips, but like the next clip,
Speaker 1: he looks like, you know, three years better than he
Speaker 1: did in the previous clip. And now he had his
Speaker 1: state side debut at an exhibition in Vegas and he
Speaker 1: looked at absolutely incredible. I just want to read this
Speaker 1: quote right because this like, like Lebron said, he's like
Speaker 1: people talked about unicorns to describe these like up and
Speaker 1: coming talents or whatever, and he's like, I think this
Speaker 1: kid is like an alien because it's like we're seeing
Speaker 1: things not a O O normal expectation. This is what
Speaker 1: uh women Yama was saying about himself. Quote, I'm going
Speaker 1: to tell you something that's been going on in my life,
Speaker 1: Like for my whole life, since I've been a kid,
Speaker 1: even before I played basketball, I've always tried to do
Speaker 1: something different. I'm not even talking about sports, it's whatever,
Speaker 1: any field. I'm always trying to be original, something original,
Speaker 1: something one of one, something that's never been done before.
Speaker 1: And this is really how it worked in my life.
Speaker 1: I don't know where it comes from. I think I
Speaker 1: was born with it. I've always been trying to be
Speaker 1: original unique, that's the word. My goal, he said, is
Speaker 1: to be like something you've never seen, and I accomplished. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: all right boy? Yeah it truly it felt like watching, yes,
Speaker 1: something I've never seen before, like watching him in this
Speaker 1: exhibition game, and like even the real like hoops heads
Speaker 1: who were you know, don't don't go out over their skis.
Speaker 1: Very often non predictions really seem to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know this is this is the real deal, Like
Speaker 1: this is the Lebron level. Like he looks amazing. I
Speaker 1: don't know, Mark, how frightening is it for you to
Speaker 1: see someone who looks like just like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you could just max out all your stats on too
Speaker 1: que Yeah. I think. I mean, you guys sit on
Speaker 1: a ton of it with him. I do not to
Speaker 1: say that you're being outlandished, like I do think like
Speaker 1: there has to be some reining in um, Like he
Speaker 1: is a really special prospect. But like you have, like
Speaker 1: Richard Jefferson saying he's going to be better than Lebron,
Speaker 1: that's crazy to me. Just I mean, granted I'm I'm
Speaker 1: biased because I'm from Cleveland area, but like you gotta
Speaker 1: hold your horses a little bit on that one. Um.
Speaker 1: But in terms of the things that he can do well,
Speaker 1: like I I mean, he's taking pretty massive leaps right
Speaker 1: now in terms of what he's doing, Like from what
Speaker 1: he's doing right now compared to what he was doing
Speaker 1: when I was watching him, you know, play this past
Speaker 1: year in the French League, Like his feel for the
Speaker 1: games really improved. He's found much better ways to utilize
Speaker 1: his frame and just be assertive and aggressive and that
Speaker 1: allows for a lot easier buckets. Um. But then the defense,
Speaker 1: like his defense is groundbreaking, and I think you saw
Speaker 1: that happen, like Scoot Henderson had really nice plays against him.
Speaker 1: But I also think you saw like he just totally
Speaker 1: changes the court dimensions because of how big he is,
Speaker 1: how mobile is, how long he is UM. And I think, like,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of my favorite things about Washington play.
Speaker 1: Every time he plays a new team, like it feels
Speaker 1: like they have to relearn what a basketball court is
Speaker 1: because how much he changes because for watching him play
Speaker 1: like top tier talent at times, when you see some
Speaker 1: of these blocks, you're like, how did you think you're
Speaker 1: gonna get that exactly? And I think that's what we're
Speaker 1: seeing is in real time players being like, well, normally
Speaker 1: I can get this off, but not understanding how much
Speaker 1: ground this guy covered, Like that one step back school
Speaker 1: had against him. I've never seen someone that wasn't even
Speaker 1: a step back that was like a reverse long jump
Speaker 1: to be able to create enough space between him and
Speaker 1: when Ba Yama to get that shot up. But I
Speaker 1: was like, and well, if we saw a scoot figure
Speaker 1: it out, He's like, okay, I got I got blocked once.
Speaker 1: I really need to make sure, like this is something else.
Speaker 1: And I think, like, to your point, that is what's
Speaker 1: really interesting. And yeah, I think for sure the idea
Speaker 1: of like this guy is going to be bigger than
Speaker 1: X established player is a little too much. Think What
Speaker 1: is undeniable, though, is like watching him and the excitement
Speaker 1: he generates because anyone can see just like the potential
Speaker 1: there and how again, how unlike anything it is we've
Speaker 1: ever seen exactly too, because like I think one of
Speaker 1: the things because I I mean, I do like a
Speaker 1: ton of Draft and Scott and stuff in the background.
Speaker 1: Like that's more of my basis before getting into covering
Speaker 1: the NBA. And uh, I think what's so interesting with
Speaker 1: him is so often you'll see a player get talked
Speaker 1: about like they're shooting potential and flashes like you'll see
Speaker 1: like for for example, this is not at the slanderd
Speaker 1: to do, but like Walker Castler played for Auburn, I
Speaker 1: think you shot like thirty threes this season. Um, he
Speaker 1: had some moments in high school where he was like
Speaker 1: a decent shooter and he's gonna play for the Jazz
Speaker 1: was a rookie this coming year and like kind of
Speaker 1: like the projection for him is like, well, if he
Speaker 1: can become a floor space for like that's really interesting.
Speaker 1: You don't see guys who are seven ft three who
Speaker 1: are a taking trail three's be taking threes off movement,
Speaker 1: see taking wacky pull ups that are going in and
Speaker 1: that's with like the footwork is phenomenal, the mechanics are
Speaker 1: really good. Like obviously you know when you're eighteen years old,
Speaker 1: you have to work on consistency and stuff, and I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna come more and more with him. But
Speaker 1: where he's at right now with like how at least
Speaker 1: point is like I mean, we saw that just in
Speaker 1: the first game, what he was able to do at
Speaker 1: seven of eleven from three, just taking everything aggressively with
Speaker 1: no hesitation, that kind of stuff, Like that's the kind
Speaker 1: of shooting that matters because I think you can see
Speaker 1: and I don't mean he keep bring up the Lakers,
Speaker 1: but like you can watch, Like I mean, who's like
Speaker 1: a good example like um Or even if we just
Speaker 1: take like mo Herkless when he was in with the Clippers,
Speaker 1: um like he shot I think he shot like thirty
Speaker 1: five or thirty six percent from three this season that
Speaker 1: they traded him for Marcus Morrison. Like yeah, he's spacing
Speaker 1: the floor, but he's not really good at attacking close outs.
Speaker 1: Defenses aren't giving it to him. Victor is so good
Speaker 1: at his size without having any hesitation, He's capable of
Speaker 1: taking people off the dribble Like that's insane, man, Like
Speaker 1: I just like there are not guys who have done
Speaker 1: that before. So it's like I don't know how to
Speaker 1: project that. I don't how to view it. I know
Speaker 1: how to like kind of rationalize and things in my mind,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's pretty wild just to watch that playout.
Speaker 1: And like, I mean, granted that was those are two
Speaker 1: of the best games he's ever had as a prospect.
Speaker 1: He has them back to back in the biggest showing possible.
Speaker 1: Like whenever I talk to people who are you know,
Speaker 1: around his camp or in his camp, um, the stuff
Speaker 1: that you just hear about his personality and how he
Speaker 1: approaches the game, like very much came to those games
Speaker 1: like I'm here to prove that I'm the number one prospect.
Speaker 1: Like he was not just coming there to play the game,
Speaker 1: like he was there because he knew, like this is
Speaker 1: an opportunity to really take the reins and show who
Speaker 1: I am. And like he very clearly heard the talks
Speaker 1: about him only having four rebounds in the first game,
Speaker 1: and he came out and made sure that was different
Speaker 1: in the second game. Like he's he's such an interesting player,
Speaker 1: and it's wild that he's got the physical presence and
Speaker 1: skill to be like, Okay, y'all want rebounds, It's okay
Speaker 1: the next night, but the speed at which he's in proving,
Speaker 1: like you said, like he's putting things together from month
Speaker 1: to month that I guess that's what you would look for.
Speaker 1: But it also feels like it's like machine learning. Like
Speaker 1: I always use the analogy for Lebron that like he
Speaker 1: is like a basketball computer that always makes the right
Speaker 1: pass and right decision on the court, and like there's
Speaker 1: just no accounting for how much that adds to your team.
Speaker 1: And I think when he first started in the league,
Speaker 1: people like, why would you pass up the shot at
Speaker 1: the end. You're supposed to be like Jordan's you know,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be playing hero ball, And it's like,
Speaker 1: but that having that constantly there throughout, Like he also
Speaker 1: reminds me of a computer in the sense of like
Speaker 1: how fast his game is just like picking up things
Speaker 1: like machine learning based on like what what he's seeing
Speaker 1: and what he's working on. Right, it's like every game
Speaker 1: you feed the machine learning algorithm, it's like, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I've leveled up another game. Now it's like, oh okay,
Speaker 1: you're doing that. And it's also overshadowing Scoot which there
Speaker 1: there is another player coming up in this draft who's
Speaker 1: gonna play with Ignite in the G League. Scooj Underson,
Speaker 1: who would be a number one pick that people would
Speaker 1: be salvating over in any other year. I mean, now
Speaker 1: he'll just be a number two pick that everyone salvator.
Speaker 1: But six three from Maryetta Georgia passed on offers to
Speaker 1: play for Auburn, and Georgia signed with the NBA G League.
Speaker 1: And he looked awesome to He looked really good and
Speaker 1: looked like you said, like he's he's pissed that he's
Speaker 1: having to go against somebody who is getting all this
Speaker 1: attention despite the fact that he's balling out, which is
Speaker 1: wild because, like we're saying, when you watch the highlights,
Speaker 1: were like, man, school just looks like a fantastic basketball
Speaker 1: player that you'd be excited to have in the league. Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this kid's got it. And then you get when Bin
Speaker 1: Yama and then it's like it's like that meme of
Speaker 1: like the like the mother in the pool with the
Speaker 1: one child like about to jump in while the other
Speaker 1: kid is drowning, and like everyone it's like wemby and
Speaker 1: like when's that to jump in? Meanwhile he got scooted
Speaker 1: in the water black I'm over here too, and yeah,
Speaker 1: like it it is kind of. I do feel a
Speaker 1: little bit bad for him because I was, like, man,
Speaker 1: those his his highlights look fantastic. But then I've also
Speaker 1: never seen someone with the size of Wemby do that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, just for the visuals alone, Like Wemby, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what were your thoughts on Scool Scool? Scool was awesome?
Speaker 1: I mean, he was somebody I really liked watching the
Speaker 1: league with within Night last year. UM. And even then,
Speaker 1: like he's clearly taking a step watching those two games,
Speaker 1: Like his ball handling is somehow even tighter, Like he
Speaker 1: is one of the best dribblers I've ever seen, UM
Speaker 1: in terms of his ability to like, like, there are
Speaker 1: guys like I think watching Benedict Mathron is always a
Speaker 1: really interesting example for pointing things out on scouting because
Speaker 1: like he's super athletic. You saw like I mean, he
Speaker 1: had tons of crazy dunks in Arizona. But but then
Speaker 1: you can see, Okay, when he's not put in a
Speaker 1: straight line and when he's asked to handle in more
Speaker 1: complex situations, like he really struggles to do it. He
Speaker 1: doesn't quite have the handle to compliment some of the
Speaker 1: best down her downhill burst set of prospect can come
Speaker 1: in with what Scoot has like everything, Like he's out
Speaker 1: there sprinting without having to even think about dribbling the
Speaker 1: basketball like he had to play. I'm trying to remember
Speaker 1: who was guarding him. I think it might Adventure Mott Waters.
Speaker 1: But um, he literally just like did like an around
Speaker 1: the world dribble right in front of him. It was
Speaker 1: like insane, like behind his back. Between that, I've never
Speaker 1: seen glides on the basketball court because he doesn't have
Speaker 1: to start and stop like he's He's got some of
Speaker 1: like the best functional tools I've seen in a guard prospect. Um,
Speaker 1: he's like the best way to put its kind of
Speaker 1: like John Wall, Like he's very much like John Wall,
Speaker 1: but even more like strength to his game. Obviously not
Speaker 1: as tall, um, but yeah, he's extremely special in his
Speaker 1: own right. Like he's getting better as a shooter, Like
Speaker 1: he's just comparing where a shot was at to close
Speaker 1: the G League season with now, like he's removed some
Speaker 1: hitchiness out of it and his energy transfers a little
Speaker 1: bit better, so it gets off quicker more accurately. Um,
Speaker 1: his overall field for the game is better. It was
Speaker 1: funny because like much like Vic, like he came into
Speaker 1: this game, like that first game he was like just
Speaker 1: ischuing like every pass movie. He's like, no, man, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm scoring today, Like I'm showing that I can score
Speaker 1: like this um, which again like just really cool to
Speaker 1: see stuff like that and seeing like very much like Vic,
Speaker 1: like somebody who is processing the game really quickly. He
Speaker 1: he sees and reads defenses incredibly well. Because as much
Speaker 1: as we like to point out how good Victor was
Speaker 1: like coming cross court to to block that that pole jumper,
Speaker 1: like like like you guys mentioned earlier, he did a
Speaker 1: ton of stuff to set himself up the rest of
Speaker 1: that game to actually play pretty well against Victor. So
Speaker 1: again like obviously it's it's it's different levels to it,
Speaker 1: but the stuff that he shows is just like that
Speaker 1: stuff that you can't teach. It's on the elite um,
Speaker 1: all right. So this brings us to the dumb pitch
Speaker 1: for the NBA. We ourselves on being the dumbest UH
Speaker 1: podcast that has partnered with the NBA, maybe the dumbest
Speaker 1: thing the NBA has ever associated its name with. And
Speaker 1: so we we have a couple ideas. So super producer Jabari,
Speaker 1: who's like a real, a real hoops head, and like
Speaker 1: called one out from uh Pell's dozen on Twitter that
Speaker 1: was about the luxury tax and basically keeping teams together
Speaker 1: by retaining a player, like if you draft and retain
Speaker 1: a player, their salaries should only count like against luxury
Speaker 1: at tax. Uh, and maybe even offset the difference by
Speaker 1: making a max free agency sign is counting one against
Speaker 1: luxury tax, like if you want to keep teams together. UM,
Speaker 1: I reject that as being entirely too smart and well
Speaker 1: thought out, Like that's that's our last pitch for the
Speaker 1: NBA that we came to came with was that Zion
Speaker 1: has warmups that are in the shape of an overall
Speaker 1: that he gets to tear off as as he comes
Speaker 1: comes in on a fan boat and just like really
Speaker 1: leans into the byu nous vibes. But I think with Wemby,
Speaker 1: we have a good opportunity, right because if he potentially
Speaker 1: is changing the way we look at basketball and play basketball,
Speaker 1: then maybe we also need to arm the other teams
Speaker 1: with ways to defend against Wemby. Uh. One of my ideas,
Speaker 1: and we've we've talked about this before, is you should
Speaker 1: be able to deploy some kind of obstacle or hindrance
Speaker 1: that he has to wear or something that would affect
Speaker 1: his game for at least five to ten minutes of
Speaker 1: a game, whether that is to where like playing tims
Speaker 1: or where like knee braces that don't allow his knees
Speaker 1: to bend, so he has to be straight legged for
Speaker 1: like ten minutes. Whereto the frenchness. So I think that
Speaker 1: that's a because he seems like he doesn't really care
Speaker 1: and he's not like trying to fit into anything. He's
Speaker 1: just trying to be like unlike anything else. Like he
Speaker 1: just smokes four or five cigarettes, a bottle of red
Speaker 1: wine on the bench playing Shoutout. Nick Kroll wears loafers
Speaker 1: or like those you know, French sneakers that are some
Speaker 1: brand I've never heard of, right right, you know, like
Speaker 1: a striped shirt, pencil mustache. Also, if people are worried
Speaker 1: about tanking, which there there might be a bit of that. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm curious because of the pacers, where do you think
Speaker 1: Wendy might end up? Like who's gonna do the best
Speaker 1: job this season? Trying to get a great question, Um,
Speaker 1: I think I'm probably I know a lot of people
Speaker 1: have thrown out Charlotte. I don't think that they go
Speaker 1: for it. That is not Steve Clifford's m O. I
Speaker 1: would be shocked if he came back to coach the
Speaker 1: team just for them to tank. Like I think that
Speaker 1: they have clear awards and issues, but I doubt they're
Speaker 1: going to be that bad unless unless there's some kind
Speaker 1: of agreement there. I just personally doubt it. Right I
Speaker 1: would have my money on Utah, Indiana or Spurs. Um.
Speaker 1: I think Indiana is like I think there'll be a
Speaker 1: competent basketball team, but much like the Pistons from a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago before they ended up getting kid
Speaker 1: when I I think they finished like twenty one and
Speaker 1: in fifty two or something like that, but they were
Speaker 1: like the best bad basketball team I've ever seen. They
Speaker 1: were in like every game, they rarely got blown out. Um,
Speaker 1: that was like Jeremy Grant's first year when he was
Speaker 1: really good. I kind of envisioned the Pacers being in
Speaker 1: that same line. The Spurs I think are really going
Speaker 1: to struggle this year. They just like have nobody who
Speaker 1: has ever really carried primary reps before, like they have
Speaker 1: confident basketball players. But again, I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: the same line. And then Utah, like if Utah had
Speaker 1: to go into the season right now and they were
Speaker 1: not allowed to cut anybody. I think that the team
Speaker 1: would actually be kind of fine, like a thirty ish
Speaker 1: win team, like they'd be decent. But I have a
Speaker 1: feeling that they're really going to lean into this, considering
Speaker 1: how much they've cleaned house already. Um, I imagine Mike
Speaker 1: Colley's gonna get traded. I'd imagine They're gonna try and
Speaker 1: find something for Jordan Clarkson, and this team is gonna
Speaker 1: be playing like some funky, freaking lineups. So um, I'd
Speaker 1: say one of those three teams would be where I'd
Speaker 1: bank on it half unless something you know, crazy happens
Speaker 1: with the lottery. And Angel has done a pretty good
Speaker 1: he he has had. Yeah, he likes leaning into it.
Speaker 1: He did it with the Celtics and successfully, like you know,
Speaker 1: coppled together a bunch of really great picks. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the the Jazz seemed like they might be might be
Speaker 1: the team that makes most sense, and the Spurs did
Speaker 1: it that one season that they got duncan. What one
Speaker 1: dumb pitch I have is that we just get to
Speaker 1: vote nationally at the mid terms with who gets the
Speaker 1: first pick and who gets the second pick. And it's
Speaker 1: between the Spurs and the Jazz, so it's not it's
Speaker 1: not like Lakers fans come in and just all say
Speaker 1: we get we get the we don't need it. Don't
Speaker 1: need it, man, because we're hanging number eighteen up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so Indiana Spurs Jazz three way runoff election, see who
Speaker 1: gets the number one pick. It would actually help voter
Speaker 1: participation to you know people, he would be at the
Speaker 1: polls if the NBA, because I know they're like, they're
Speaker 1: not playing games on election day. That's perfect. Find a
Speaker 1: way to work with the federal government to somehow allow
Speaker 1: voters during these these massively important elections to also voice
Speaker 1: their opinion on this and maybe we get people to
Speaker 1: the polls. Okay, good idea. All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break. We'll run that by the league and we'll
Speaker 1: tell you what they say right when we get back
Speaker 1: and we're back. Wow, that did not go well that
Speaker 1: it wouldn't even let us get through to the commissioner. Wow. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you know we were Miles and Jack from Jacko
Speaker 1: madst Then okay, the owners would come out strapped up
Speaker 1: if that was if that was to them so seriously,
Speaker 1: I'd be interested though, Yeah, it would be interesting. Man.
Speaker 1: So I guess it's time. I guess about that time.
Speaker 1: We're in the fourth quarter, Mark Schindler, get ready for
Speaker 1: the rapid fire round of questioning. Now. I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know about this, but this is the fastest
Speaker 1: segment in sports discussion podcasts on Earth. Okay, now what
Speaker 1: happens is we're gonna ask you a question. Just react,
Speaker 1: give us your just first take, react to it straight back.
Speaker 1: No long answers, okay, please do not give long answers,
Speaker 1: and do not let us give long answers either. That
Speaker 1: responsibility is completely on you, the guests, to keep this
Speaker 1: segment moving. There are no wrong answers. There are long answers, though,
Speaker 1: and we do not appreciate those. We don't like them
Speaker 1: long and wrong. Okay, here we go, start the clock
Speaker 1: for the rapid fire round. Um yeah, okay, well I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna go for it this time. All right. See,
Speaker 1: my therapist is saying, to be more confident, and you know,
Speaker 1: express I have noticed this episode you've been very assertive
Speaker 1: and I love it for you. And see and I
Speaker 1: said I was expressing my knees like I somehow said
Speaker 1: that the Lakers can win an eighteenth championship to see
Speaker 1: the seat like, I'm just voicing stuff for my own
Speaker 1: mental health if we're going to cut that out. But okay,
Speaker 1: first question, mark starting the clock back up. Now, we've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of great sports documentaries recently. Got The
Speaker 1: Last Dance, you got the Lakers Legacy on Hulu, you
Speaker 1: got The Redeemed Team. What is your favorite sports documentary
Speaker 1: of all time? Oh? Man, so all right, I'm not
Speaker 1: even a big baseball fan, but I will say I
Speaker 1: think it's what is it like seven Days in October?
Speaker 1: It's something along those lines. It's about the Red Sox
Speaker 1: winning after going down oh three? Uh you know, I
Speaker 1: believe I can't. You know, I don't know. The leak's
Speaker 1: well enough. But whatever the championship series is before days
Speaker 1: of October, that's before. Yeah, it's a tremendous documentary. This
Speaker 1: is the first time we've gotten a All Caps boom
Speaker 1: and I have so many problems with The Last Dance.
Speaker 1: I just can't put it there. Okay, Oh, which, ok,
Speaker 1: I like that. Okay, what's your what's your favorite documentary?
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're taking uh though j documentary the
Speaker 1: one the Oscar out, which is, you know, one of
Speaker 1: the best, Yeah, kind of translate sports, I did. I
Speaker 1: mean the last dance was I was I was a
Speaker 1: fan of Jordan's fan of the Bulls. That I know,
Speaker 1: I'm weird as a kid, but like, this was the
Speaker 1: access that I had dreamed of, you know, growing up
Speaker 1: as like my my formative experiences with basketball, with sports
Speaker 1: and just getting to sit there watch that what was
Speaker 1: probably my favorite experience. And it was also just the
Speaker 1: timing of it was like I was in such desperate
Speaker 1: need of NBA basketball and they came through and we
Speaker 1: were it was desert thirst out there for some hoops action.
Speaker 1: For me, I really liked A King's Ransom, which has
Speaker 1: nothing to do with basketball, the Gretzky one. That one
Speaker 1: was really really good, uh and then also kind of
Speaker 1: a tangentially sports long shot, the one about the guy
Speaker 1: who was like accused of murder but then his lawyer
Speaker 1: found him in the background of Curb Your Enthusiasm and yeah,
Speaker 1: that was just an interesting intersection of Dodgers, Curb Your Enthusiasm,
Speaker 1: and true crime. But anyway, man, Mark, what I say
Speaker 1: this is the rapid fire rounded questions man, But this
Speaker 1: keep it on the rails. Mark all right, on the
Speaker 1: same subject, what documentary do you want to see even
Speaker 1: if it violates the rules of reality and physics? Like
Speaker 1: the one that occurred to me was like Bill Russell
Speaker 1: from day one, they've got access in footage and like
Speaker 1: really breaking down how he was the most winning player,
Speaker 1: like athlete of all time maybe or and then superproducer
Speaker 1: Jabari came through with Wilt, which you get the footage
Speaker 1: of the one point game that is like the stuff
Speaker 1: of legends, but nobody really has visibility into how it happened.
Speaker 1: I was saying that one would be dope unless it
Speaker 1: is what I secretly suspect, which is like it looks
Speaker 1: like me playing against my six year old just like
Speaker 1: swatting everything and putting it in, which I so a
Speaker 1: lot of dunking on crying children. Yeah, yeah exactly. But yeah,
Speaker 1: who do you pick? Mark Man? Yeah, that's tough. I
Speaker 1: think I'd have to. I'll narrow down to like three.
Speaker 1: One on Kauai just because I know absolutely nothing about Kuai. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be cool the man behind the last something
Speaker 1: on the Sonics because just like I grew up again
Speaker 1: like tangentially a Sonics fan. And that's partially why I
Speaker 1: just like parts of the Last Dance because they told
Speaker 1: lies about Gary Payton. Um. But yeah, something on them
Speaker 1: and like their history would be really cool. Just don't
Speaker 1: revolve George Carls. I don't like that man um. And
Speaker 1: then something on unlike the fourteen Indiana Pacers because I
Speaker 1: need to I need to get that still still breaks
Speaker 1: my heart a little bit, but yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: was already my three. All Right, those are could pick.
Speaker 1: I want to see a Craig Hodges documentary. That would
Speaker 1: be cool. I want to see Craig Hodges like up
Speaker 1: in it. Like that I think is a perfect intersection
Speaker 1: of you know, culture and like the league and where
Speaker 1: we were at and what we were trying to do
Speaker 1: in a very very changed to that. That's a much
Speaker 1: better answer. Well, yeah, and I would do the very
Speaker 1: culturally significant thing. I think these were all great answers. Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: moving on, please Mark, keep me on track. Mark, if
Speaker 1: you could introduce a new rule into the NBA, what
Speaker 1: change are you making effective immediately? Well, they got rid
Speaker 1: of the take foul, so that already makes me happy. Um,
Speaker 1: you could this could be anything, doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: rooted and don't try and make a good idea. You
Speaker 1: can go get out. Landed suggested each stadium has their
Speaker 1: own pattern of three point lines, like a green monster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: green monster equivalent, bring back three point shot from rock
Speaker 1: and jobs. I think I would do something in terms
Speaker 1: of like if your ownership this is like turning turning
Speaker 1: it out and said, if your ownership doesn't dig into
Speaker 1: the lottery at least once every five years, they get fined.
Speaker 1: That's something that would make me happy because I'm tired
Speaker 1: of these owners who own a sports team and then
Speaker 1: refused to actually like operated like a winning Sancho. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know what, if you're not gonna do it,
Speaker 1: we'll find something else she does. So, uh, that's my
Speaker 1: rule ID implement relegate him. Yeah, that was our idea
Speaker 1: last week. Relegate and promotion. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you're saying they need to get into into the lottery,
Speaker 1: like they need to tank every once in a while,
Speaker 1: like they have to, they have to go into the
Speaker 1: luxury tax. Like if you got to going to luxury tax,
Speaker 1: gotta gotta go ship. All right, I got you. That's
Speaker 1: a good idea. I kind of like it. Jack. Oh yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep you gotta, you gotta keep me. Come on, man,
Speaker 1: I just want yeah back is like a goldfish man.
Speaker 1: All right. You've been known for having some pretty wild
Speaker 1: food takes on the timeline, So you gotta give us
Speaker 1: what's your most polarizing take to date, and then what's
Speaker 1: the one you like feel the strongest about. Most polarizing
Speaker 1: was probably when I tweeted about how bad spaghetti is.
Speaker 1: Um like spaghetti, I'm not I'm not a spaghetti your
Speaker 1: pasta person like in the pasta. Yeah, all pasta is
Speaker 1: like pretty mid to me um. And I think that
Speaker 1: that that did not go over well. I had I
Speaker 1: deleted it fairly quickly, but I had I put out
Speaker 1: like a note app thing on my food tears for Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: and that that did not go well. Um. But the
Speaker 1: thing that I probably feel strongest about, uh, peanut butter
Speaker 1: is like the greatest thing of all time. I can
Speaker 1: help kind of butter with with a spoon, uh Like.
Speaker 1: I Yeah, that's that's probably the thing I feel mostly about.
Speaker 1: And I couldn't like agree harder with that. I don't
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, right before, I'm like, man, pasta, Okay,
Speaker 1: I love pasta so much. Have you tried putting sauce
Speaker 1: on the pasta? I feel like I find that help
Speaker 1: like a sauce, Yeah, I would like, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll eat it. I just like I'd so much rather
Speaker 1: have anything else than pasta for the mootes part. I
Speaker 1: also like tweeted out one day that I think lasagna
Speaker 1: is pretty terrible. Um, so you're I mean you're coming
Speaker 1: for just Italian food. Yeah, one of might giant ones
Speaker 1: that I think Italians was just kind of overrated. But
Speaker 1: um yeah, that's that's a cancelable take. I've I've I've learned. Um,
Speaker 1: I love pizza. But because like noodles, I think Dan
Speaker 1: Dan noodles. You might like Dan Dan noodles, which is
Speaker 1: an Asian noodle dish that's got peanut butter, that's using
Speaker 1: Asian dish. Is like I love curry and stuff like that. Fantastic.
Speaker 1: Oh so you're so you're truly like a post like
Speaker 1: a Towan cruisine. You're like, no, no, no, no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: no chow Maine. I just like it's it's texture, MANX
Speaker 1: just got it. Yeah, got it. I also gotta say
Speaker 1: the peanut butter take is very Ohio of you, the Ohio.
Speaker 1: Um what are the little chocolate cover peanut balls of
Speaker 1: those guys? Yeah, people don't know about that. I lived
Speaker 1: in Dayton for five years and uh that. Oh man.
Speaker 1: They're just little peanut butter chocolate balls. They're the greatest things.
Speaker 1: You can get them at like any gas station in Ohio.
Speaker 1: Fully recommend should be illegal, but very definitely they're like
Speaker 1: crack mark. We have to keep this moving, man. I
Speaker 1: hate cut in here, man, but you know, man, like
Speaker 1: I said, you gotta keep us on the track. Man
Speaker 1: the rules. Let's go ahead, come on, Okay, now, now
Speaker 1: the league may have dropped the Comeback Player of the
Speaker 1: Year award years ago. Let us get your top three
Speaker 1: candidates for because we're reclaiming that award as a show
Speaker 1: for the boost these bounced back player also first and foremost,
Speaker 1: they should have never gotten rid of it. You heard that, right,
Speaker 1: the league than player. This is tough because I'm trying
Speaker 1: to think who was even out last year? Um, I mean,
Speaker 1: so you got your wall, you got your because wall
Speaker 1: sad because it's injury. Kauai, I mean Kauai definitely top
Speaker 1: three for that, um Man. Maybe Ricky Rubio but he was.
Speaker 1: He played for a little bit last year, and I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be running for the award for
Speaker 1: being honest. Um, just hoping for I mean Zion is again.
Speaker 1: Zion is an easy one. Uh, hoping for Ruey hatch Mur.
Speaker 1: He played for a while last year and he was
Speaker 1: out for like the beginning. It was kind of weird.
Speaker 1: More like, I just hope you haven't bounced back this year. Um,
Speaker 1: I really can't remember who else is out? Like that
Speaker 1: means it tough. I promised I know my stuff, but like, jeez,
Speaker 1: I guess guys seeing Peanut butter all day. Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1: I'm just in front of me right now. All right,
Speaker 1: first time I All Star this season? That you think
Speaker 1: people are are sleeping on. Uh, I'll name a couple.
Speaker 1: Bron's Wagner from Orlando. I think he. I think he
Speaker 1: has the jump. He's good man, He's so good. Um,
Speaker 1: I do you think it's he's a lot closer to
Speaker 1: being on the same level of Scottie, Like I think
Speaker 1: he and Scotti bars on the same level. Um, it
Speaker 1: could be honest, Like, I think that some Toronto fans
Speaker 1: would disagree with me on that that's fine, that's my opinion. Um,
Speaker 1: other guys you might take the leap. I think I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's quite there yet. I think if
Speaker 1: if he does take the leap, aunt could be first
Speaker 1: time All Star. Um and just giving narrative to you
Speaker 1: on on where people are at with him, I think
Speaker 1: that's possible. Yeah, Scottie Barnes, I mean, like that is
Speaker 1: the standard take right now is I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people are expecting Scotti bar to just be I mean,
Speaker 1: he was awesome last year, but I think he is
Speaker 1: also a big candidate for the leap. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's possible with him too. I would not bet on
Speaker 1: him taking the All Star lea though. It's just that's
Speaker 1: hardly it's to make, you know. Yeah, I was thinking
Speaker 1: about doing it this season, but I think it's too
Speaker 1: hard for me over him to make. That's not to
Speaker 1: say that they're like better long term prospects. I think
Speaker 1: they are, but you know, like that's uh, just I
Speaker 1: have to hedge a little bit because Toronto fans do
Speaker 1: get up in arms over their guys, which I respect,
Speaker 1: but also I promise I'll watch the games. Um, but
Speaker 1: Mobile is just so good and k is gonna be
Speaker 1: I see it. If he's gonna he's gonna be an
Speaker 1: all start this year. What the good news is you
Speaker 1: don't have to like hedge anything with like Toronto fans
Speaker 1: or anything, because nobody takes this podcast seriously enough to
Speaker 1: get mad at. That's usually so you're good. You can
Speaker 1: say very dumb things on here. But this is the
Speaker 1: main question of all of the questions. Now, this is
Speaker 1: the one that people will pay attention to. Mark Schindler,
Speaker 1: Jack or Miles. Oh what I mean? I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know clearly enough to say yet. Um Okay, I
Speaker 1: like the shirt that Miles wearing better today, though, we're
Speaker 1: being honest, so I do I do have to side
Speaker 1: with Miles. I'm sorry, Sorry, Jack, you've made a decision.
Speaker 1: You're just wearing You're right, Wow, one of the great
Speaker 1: guests we've had. Jack up your shirt game. You heard
Speaker 1: it straight here from the lips from Mark Schindler. I
Speaker 1: just wanna, I just want to mention that we're both
Speaker 1: wearing solid colored shirts. No, I got a little I
Speaker 1: got a little trip right here. Okay, all right, there
Speaker 1: is Okay, mine is just a white T shirt. So
Speaker 1: Jack up on this man, Let's know, I should have
Speaker 1: been for you. You take a lot of like time
Speaker 1: getting ready for these recordings because I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: so this is I'm looking at myself in the mirror.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is who Mark is going to be
Speaker 1: looking at when we asked him Jack or Miles like,
Speaker 1: what what do I want to do? Do I want
Speaker 1: to like act like I'm are compensating brightly colored shirt
Speaker 1: or do I just want to go white T shirt?
Speaker 1: Like stand like I said, don't scare the guests, Jack,
Speaker 1: don't scare the guests. Pull off without over compensating though
Speaker 1: huh yeah, yeah, you know, no, that's right, Jack. There's
Speaker 1: a certain emptiness that a Laker fan has that you
Speaker 1: have to compensate for just another vibrancy energetically that you've
Speaker 1: seen the banners up in in that arena. Come on, man, yeah,
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Like hey, look, you know,
Speaker 1: Lakers fans are historianic, they are they just oh my god,
Speaker 1: we'll be all right this year. It's it's hard, you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard out here. You know the weight of that
Speaker 1: eighteenth one who knows exactly, Like, yeah, just give us
Speaker 1: this little update in the chat, Miles, is thirteen one
Speaker 1: and oh. Um, yeah, I mean no's deserved for just
Speaker 1: look look like everything history, Well it's it's cyclical, man.
Speaker 1: Next thing, you know, I'm probably gonna go oh for
Speaker 1: thirteen you know what I mean? Yeah, I'm just I
Speaker 1: just I think I need to fire my coach and
Speaker 1: then you know, oh, and you're gonna tank the next episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah wait now Miles is thirteen oh and one one draw,
Speaker 1: So yeah, sorry, I just wanted to make sure that
Speaker 1: you know, it was clear. I'm oh, thirteen and one.
Speaker 1: That's uh, I've been on you. I've been on you
Speaker 1: in the next fight because the odds on that will
Speaker 1: be wild and I could be coming there, So I
Speaker 1: look at it that way, you know. Well, Mark Schindler,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us, validating my you know,
Speaker 1: just just who I am, and also Jack as well.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate that. Where can people follow you and
Speaker 1: you know, find you and hear your work, listen to
Speaker 1: your work, read your work and all that. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I appreciate you guys having me this
Speaker 1: just fun. You can find me on Twitter at MG
Speaker 1: Underscore Schindler, um G Underscore, s h I and d
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Speaker 1: dot Com. I write about the NBA and the draft
Speaker 1: and scouting pretty much anywhere else, particularly at a dime
Speaker 1: up prox. So follow me on Twitter is the easiest
Speaker 1: way to get there though, And we also have to
Speaker 1: get shout out to everybody who follows us at mad Boost.
Speaker 1: He's on Twitter, we gotta unveil this week's mad Boost
Speaker 1: the Twitter of the week At bany eight four, Ben
Speaker 1: tweeted us we're talking about when Yama? He said four things. First,
Speaker 1: the dude is straight out of a creative player. Yes,
Speaker 1: we know that, We've seen it. Like I said, he's
Speaker 1: maxed out on every stat too. Who has the best
Speaker 1: chance to dunk on the kid early? Like Kobe did?
Speaker 1: Dwight Quick quick answer Jack? Who has the best chance
Speaker 1: to dunk on the kid earlier? John John seems to
Speaker 1: like Okay, markt Jah Oh No, I feel I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go an I'll do kind of strong. He's strong too,
Speaker 1: but he will complement him on his act as he
Speaker 1: does that all that we irish number three? Does anyone
Speaker 1: dunk on him? After? When min Yama's twenty two, that's
Speaker 1: a great question. The window in which he can't be
Speaker 1: dunked on, and then he becomes like Danos, Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: H there's this kid coming up named Ron Holland the
Speaker 1: second that dunks on everybody, I think he's not this
Speaker 1: coming draft flash, but the one after he's going to
Speaker 1: do it, he's like, I think it's gonna happen. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And number four is his ceiling higher than Lebron? Is
Speaker 1: he ahead of Lebron? I don't know if we can
Speaker 1: say that because he hasn't done anything yet, so I
Speaker 1: would say no. I will say the thing that Lebron
Speaker 1: had that nobody was accounting for at this age was
Speaker 1: longevity and like the just just built to play an
Speaker 1: inordinate amount of basketball, and then also like a genius
Speaker 1: for conditioning. I will say, the other person who had
Speaker 1: great conditioning is a comp that one banana is getting
Speaker 1: a lot, which is Koreem just an incredible longevity and
Speaker 1: also seven ft four, so it's not impossible that he
Speaker 1: would have the longevity. But obviously, well, thank you so
Speaker 1: much Mark for joining us, and thank you the listener
Speaker 1: for joining us as well. Obviously, follow us at mad Boost.
Speaker 1: He's on Twitter. We will see y'all next week. And
Speaker 1: this has been another episode of Miles and Jack Got
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