Speaker 1: You're tuned into The Gangster Chronicles. Well, James McDonald, Rixie
Speaker 1: Rei Jr. And Alex to Monson on the Digital Soup
Speaker 1: Buch Network material witness on an aggregated battery, I was
Speaker 1: a hang gun and um, they believe this might be
Speaker 1: in retaliation to her testimony. Welcome to another episode of
Speaker 1: The Gangster Chronicles. This is episode thirty two, and this
Speaker 1: is Alex Alonso from Street TV a K Street Gangs
Speaker 1: dot Com. And I'm here with my co host James McDonald.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're over there daydreaming boat. Um,
Speaker 1: Reggie right is still not here, so it's just h
Speaker 1: James and I holding down the show until Reggie comes
Speaker 1: home and episode thirty two. If you're listening to Apple Podcast,
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Speaker 1: just learned that because I just came back visiting my mom.
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Speaker 1: to get those shirts nine zero nine eight hundred sixty
Speaker 1: four zero four. You still got those shirts, right, James? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 1: And you can find me on all social media platforms
Speaker 1: at alex Alonso one zero one. I'm on Twitter, Instagram,
Speaker 1: and Facebook. So last week we had Kado on the show, James,
Speaker 1: and I just want to go through a few fact
Speaker 1: checks from last week. UM. We had mentioned that song
Speaker 1: that snoopad it ain't no fun if the Homies can't
Speaker 1: get none. That was with Corrupt Nate Dog Warrengey. Do
Speaker 1: you remember the month and year was released because you
Speaker 1: was around them years. Can you remember the month and
Speaker 1: year November? And that was right when you was in
Speaker 1: the middle of it when they when the Sun came
Speaker 1: out years in dates. No, I don't okay. That was
Speaker 1: actually off of Snoop Dogg's debut album, Um Doggy Style,
Speaker 1: right after he was featured on the chronic in two.
Speaker 1: Um next fact check was the name of the FBI agent.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that was your Kato that brought. Oh.
Speaker 1: You said last week that some of these FBI agents
Speaker 1: they're working with these dudes on the streets when we're
Speaker 1: talking about the mafia exactly. Robert Joseph Connolly convicted of racketeering,
Speaker 1: obstruction of ustice, and murder. He was on the pay row.
Speaker 1: He was an FBI agent in Boston and he had
Speaker 1: a relationship with James Whitey Bulger. This is what I'm
Speaker 1: just telling these guys that that we don't now outside
Speaker 1: looking in on what these cats is doing. And and
Speaker 1: they got the pen when you go to jail. Everybody
Speaker 1: knew if you say something small statement becomes a big
Speaker 1: statement before you need court. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can't say I didn't say that. He's written down.
Speaker 1: Gets so much time that Robert Connley got that FBI ag,
Speaker 1: he got life he got life. He got life because
Speaker 1: he was also implicated in homicides. They were mad at
Speaker 1: him because he turned like that, and he helped Whitey
Speaker 1: Bulger knock off a few folks. Now Whitey Bulgers the
Speaker 1: old dude that about a year or two ago got
Speaker 1: killed in in prison after he was on the run
Speaker 1: for many years. So yeah, I mean, he's the only
Speaker 1: FBI agent that we know about. But you know, he
Speaker 1: ain't the only one. He ain't the only one. Last week,
Speaker 1: Kato said something about, you know, not too many cops
Speaker 1: that are that looked like you and I are really
Speaker 1: doing anything to push an agenda towards better policing. But
Speaker 1: I did a little research, and I remember there was
Speaker 1: this one cop in the l a p D, this
Speaker 1: one black cop, and I found him out. His name
Speaker 1: is Wayne Gillory. This is a cop that sued the
Speaker 1: l a p D while he's an l a p
Speaker 1: D officer, that said, y'all don't treat black people right,
Speaker 1: and after a while they couldn't fire him. He sued
Speaker 1: the l APD multiple times and he recently won a
Speaker 1: fat judgment from the l a p D. While being
Speaker 1: an l a p D officer. Good yeah, he's the
Speaker 1: only dude that I've ever heard of. Really. Now, I
Speaker 1: know a lot of black cops that are retired that
Speaker 1: talk shit about the police. I knew quite a few
Speaker 1: of them that still there. That's that's good cops, man.
Speaker 1: And and you know, ask your jelf, how do you
Speaker 1: know you're a good cop. It's just how they interact
Speaker 1: with you, you you know what I'm saying. If they how
Speaker 1: about the car and they don't know bullshit. And I
Speaker 1: was once again telling them, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of catch in the neighborhood. Don't want to mention or say,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, man, I choose the ship with him on
Speaker 1: the chime here cool cops. It's a lot of good
Speaker 1: cops out there, man, that ain't on that bulletshit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got a lot of brother cops that's out there,
Speaker 1: and they only do what they do because they are
Speaker 1: under this this this white agenda bullshit that these cops
Speaker 1: whooping your ass and all another ship. So they got
Speaker 1: to fit in and they do what they do. But
Speaker 1: it's it's I ain't gonna even say half and half.
Speaker 1: There's a few amount that's good. Well, most black cops
Speaker 1: that got some things to say about being a cop.
Speaker 1: They we usually wait till they're retired to say yeah
Speaker 1: the department is racist. It's too late. Yeah, but this guy,
Speaker 1: Wayne Gillory said, you know what, I'm about to make
Speaker 1: us think about it right now. And I believe he
Speaker 1: may have recently retired. So there's one black cop right there,
Speaker 1: l ap D officer Wayne Gillory. I actually like to
Speaker 1: interview the brother because, um, he went on the record
Speaker 1: as he still a lot. Yeah, he's still around. He's
Speaker 1: still around. They tried to force him into retirement, but
Speaker 1: they couldn't do it. And this is this is the story.
Speaker 1: As a cop is is crazy. He would be good
Speaker 1: for this show. And my last fact check is from
Speaker 1: last week. You talked about the incident that happened in
Speaker 1: the Nicholsons when they were shooting the video Crack Them.
Speaker 1: That song was released in and I just want to
Speaker 1: mention the dude from o FTB that's Low and B
Speaker 1: Flip Side rest in peace and bus Stop now low
Speaker 1: and be still around. Um, you know bus Stop actually
Speaker 1: changed his life and went into medicine. I'm not sure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he became a Cairo practor or something in
Speaker 1: that field. Pharmacist or something. I promise you I called around.
Speaker 1: I planted him then, I mean everybody trying to change
Speaker 1: their life. Now he changed his life in a major way.
Speaker 1: I'm not maybe next we got a fact check, but
Speaker 1: I believe he became a chiropractor. We're waiting on a
Speaker 1: phone call from Reggie Wright calling us directly from having
Speaker 1: off federal prison. He's supposed to be hitting James phone
Speaker 1: any second now. He's in at Water. Oh what did
Speaker 1: I say, avanas California State Prison. He's in at Water. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's supposed to be hitting James phone any second now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're waiting on this call. You said he's gonna hit
Speaker 1: us a quarter to seven, and we're trying to get
Speaker 1: it together, get that call to come through. And once
Speaker 1: we get it, y'all here from us. Reggie on the
Speaker 1: phone with us, and let's see what he's doing. And
Speaker 1: then after the phone call, we got something special for
Speaker 1: you and got an interview recording and the cuntric to
Speaker 1: monitory hang up to decline the call. Five Now if
Speaker 1: you wish to any call, that's the thirty minute points.
Speaker 1: What's going on? Oh? Man, we're good, We're good. Man.
Speaker 1: Just sitting there, you know, doing the show, uh waiting
Speaker 1: on your call. Okay, okay, what up? Gave the chronical?
Speaker 1: How y'all doing. We're good. We were pushing trying to
Speaker 1: keep it going to come on when you come home.
Speaker 1: You need somebody to pick the other side of your brains.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, ship, Hey, it ain't no fun. I
Speaker 1: ain't got nobody to argue with, you know, Alex. Alex
Speaker 1: don't shoot joke out of way, So we're basically on
Speaker 1: the same page. So I gotta find somebody I need.
Speaker 1: I need to argue. I need to start cutting on
Speaker 1: his motherfucker. I'll get the team and every every week. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: we just ain't gonna we just ain't gonna talk about
Speaker 1: no police today. But you just settled down there, your
Speaker 1: settling here. It's all good in there, man. In the
Speaker 1: public's cold alectican of cold. The white boys, they stay
Speaker 1: in their place, and it's all good in here, man.
Speaker 1: And and yeah, you know, only the only hard time
Speaker 1: about this is been away from the family, man, to
Speaker 1: be honest, that's right. They set your date up or
Speaker 1: gave you a time on your uh release date, which
Speaker 1: they got to go through all kinds of other ships
Speaker 1: and and calculate ship to give you a date. Let
Speaker 1: give Yeah, yeah, it would be sometime in September. I
Speaker 1: should be at a Alfrica something. We'll see September next year. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh you got over, you got you got a long
Speaker 1: away from now. That's a long time man. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: never mind. I have been cutting my fingers. Don't drink.
Speaker 1: I don't drink sothers so well. So you know that's
Speaker 1: how we've been my problem for all that week. Good.
Speaker 1: Why you don't drink sholders no more because you can't
Speaker 1: get one? No, No, you thinking, man, And I got
Speaker 1: more ship in hint that I had on the street. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I told you my people. He was a lieutenant question officer,
Speaker 1: and he was telling me, man, you're gonna be eating
Speaker 1: all them kicks and pies and ship and you better
Speaker 1: back away from next My my Bucky right now making
Speaker 1: cheesecakes right now on this ship. So man, it's all
Speaker 1: good in here. Man. The only bad thing about here
Speaker 1: he had found out. Man, you don't take coming m
Speaker 1: Gail's out time. Man. You need people out there take
Speaker 1: the getting in that drug game and doing a cookie ship. Man.
Speaker 1: I need to be thinking because people as it here
Speaker 1: are doing ten to fifteen years like it ain't ship? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, no time. So how do you feel just
Speaker 1: being on the other side of where you used to be?
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? Do you feel crazy? Do you
Speaker 1: feel like? What the why am I in this? Motherfucker?
Speaker 1: I mean, how you feeling free? Are you talking about? No? Just?
Speaker 1: I mean you know you're on the side you had
Speaker 1: covering motherfucker's at one point and down? Is you at
Speaker 1: the point where you be twenty four years ago? I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but I'm I'm saying, and how
Speaker 1: you a lot of it was twenty three years ago? Man?
Speaker 1: That that that that part of my life was twenty
Speaker 1: three I was a totally different man back twenty three
Speaker 1: years ago. Yeah, four years ago when I was doing
Speaker 1: what I'm saying to your read Just how do you feel?
Speaker 1: Are you settled in and and just mindset? Why? It's like, damn,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in a motherfucking correctional facility. I mean, have
Speaker 1: you have you just sit in and just okay? Man,
Speaker 1: I I gotta do this time. I accepted what went down,
Speaker 1: this move, I've been accepted. Okay. After two and a
Speaker 1: half years ago, when I when they kicked in my
Speaker 1: doors and and you know, I knew this thing was
Speaker 1: gonna calm. I was just glad to be able to
Speaker 1: get my financial situation right and to get people, you know,
Speaker 1: get things set up, and to keep it, keep it pushing.
Speaker 1: That's when I found this YouTube podcast, uh community, and
Speaker 1: now you know, I started focusing my little energy because
Speaker 1: I had all that your time and they're there and
Speaker 1: it's all good. Man. Yeah, they're loving you too. Man.
Speaker 1: Your boy Jane deal getting some backlash on that that
Speaker 1: uh the ships new comments. Yeah, I don't get what
Speaker 1: he wants to tap at me. Wants to nigga go
Speaker 1: in jail. You know, I don't have probably over conversations
Speaker 1: with the nigga. I stopped answering his phone call after
Speaker 1: I did a little show with him my mom first
Speaker 1: and he wanted to uh take up for this from
Speaker 1: the UK, And I was like, man, you're gonna come
Speaker 1: on my show kind of take up for Alex, who
Speaker 1: I know, being threatening all the people on my channel
Speaker 1: and ship making, you know, got thirty different profiles and
Speaker 1: ship and then you're gonna come on my show and
Speaker 1: bring his name up with and and and you know,
Speaker 1: take up for him, do nights that you know, mom,
Speaker 1: He called me about twenty times, even called the nigga
Speaker 1: three want three reil my homie, you know he my boy.
Speaker 1: He called him trying to get him me to call
Speaker 1: him back. You're gonna tell all that, but that's real that,
Speaker 1: you know. But I was like, man, I realized what
Speaker 1: that nigga, that nigga, that nigga he like cultivating on
Speaker 1: funk with nigga. Oh well, man, you don't don't talk
Speaker 1: to things. You get that next day? Yeah, well I
Speaker 1: don't want that was Joe doub. Ain't going with me,
Speaker 1: ain't talking to me now everything I said. You know
Speaker 1: some people take take what I say to your heart? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you kind of ridgian? Now, I'm just saying something.
Speaker 1: I don't funk with him? That's right? Why you Why
Speaker 1: was on that on that chip? Though? I do want
Speaker 1: to shout out a couple of people before my little
Speaker 1: time run out. Come on, put some money on my
Speaker 1: books and look out for a rolla. Send me some
Speaker 1: books and stuff. My boy dam and stephen A Keen
Speaker 1: and miss Alive and you are and man Man Song
Speaker 1: and my boy John islands on ball first, right, my
Speaker 1: boy deep block from the three on three show. Man,
Speaker 1: I got cold, and I got some books and some
Speaker 1: letters from a couple of people, and man, trust man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I'm leading him and I appreciate everything
Speaker 1: I do. Well. We gotta we got a brother right
Speaker 1: ship next to it. Dan. I ain't got a chance
Speaker 1: to thank you and Brian yet either, for you know,
Speaker 1: because let's call let's say a little a little shaking
Speaker 1: up and what I was about to walk in the
Speaker 1: walls and stuff. But I want to thank you guys
Speaker 1: again for coming out there and oh yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be there to pick you up, picked me up for
Speaker 1: early in the morning and all of that. So I
Speaker 1: got it. I got about it. I got about a
Speaker 1: year to get the gas money to get down. Man,
Speaker 1: You're good. I'm your driver. Alex saying that I'm right
Speaker 1: here listening. I'm listening. I'm there asleep, told me he
Speaker 1: wrote me a letter, told me he had to check
Speaker 1: Alex of Alex to be talking at the show I'm
Speaker 1: talking about I don't think I'm blank or something. In
Speaker 1: the In the in the Coming On Against the Chronicles,
Speaker 1: the question was asked by Chuck Reggie don't. I mean, man,
Speaker 1: Reggie don't like black people. I hid me dads and
Speaker 1: I told him no question was asked. That wasn't a
Speaker 1: question that Alex ax Or said. It was asked by
Speaker 1: someone that listened to the show. Come on, Reggie, you
Speaker 1: know we always and I think it's only been it's
Speaker 1: only been eight minutes. Yeah, so I'm timing it. It
Speaker 1: was that that was he understood where where we came from.
Speaker 1: After that, it was totally comment So, you know, asking
Speaker 1: the question that the people hit us with, I think
Speaker 1: is a good thing that we respond to the comments.
Speaker 1: And that was the comments from Chuck. Chuck felt that
Speaker 1: Reggie don't like black people. My thing is why you
Speaker 1: don't like black people. He got a black wife, he
Speaker 1: got a black kid, he got black everything. I don't like.
Speaker 1: That's all I know. I don't know. I think that
Speaker 1: they don't see all the Just go look at the
Speaker 1: ball first channel, look at all them. Because if the
Speaker 1: phone came and did interviews with me, year, well, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take up for Chuck, anybody, anybody, and you talking
Speaker 1: in YouTube, there's many persons among let's call let's tell
Speaker 1: said I have. Then then Alex and over Alex know
Speaker 1: people you know with his ship channel. He don't really
Speaker 1: know him personally, he just know their reputation. Everybody that
Speaker 1: came up from co channel do me have relationships with me?
Speaker 1: And they were all black there there. Well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, we opened the doors for
Speaker 1: people to voice their opinion. And when we're talking and
Speaker 1: and people listen to me and you go back and
Speaker 1: forth opinions. When you when you tolerate stupidity, that's what
Speaker 1: you get. Stupid stupid check coming me with stupidity. You
Speaker 1: gotta stop that ship, Okay? And that ain't me. I'm
Speaker 1: hind Walls and I'm like that. And when I walk
Speaker 1: Holiday Walls, I walked in this man, I want to
Speaker 1: walk out of manure. Reggie, can you hear me? So
Speaker 1: you thought that I actually said Reggie doesn't like black people.
Speaker 1: Now they're just saying you was going back and forth
Speaker 1: with my boy, you know, you know, they just saying,
Speaker 1: like you depending. I actually when I asked a question
Speaker 1: on the Gangster Chronicles episode last week, I actually said, James,
Speaker 1: I know Reggie like black people, but I understand where
Speaker 1: this guy is coming from because of the whole anti
Speaker 1: um unarmed black man. You know it ain't black people
Speaker 1: don't like I don't like stupidity. I can't dealing with stupidity.
Speaker 1: Well you you're gonna have to. You're gonna have to
Speaker 1: deal with it. Everybody else do you ain't got no choice.
Speaker 1: Oh but I got to cultivated you. You you raise
Speaker 1: a stupid kid, and they then when they grow up
Speaker 1: and you keep cultivating, they're gonna be a stupid when
Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, how many stupid should go out there?
Speaker 1: All of us stupid? I just had to learn myself.
Speaker 1: I've been stupid all my life. You keep cultivating stupidity, man,
Speaker 1: that's aught you're gonna get as a stupid result. That's
Speaker 1: not true. I'm glad you're on the phone because I
Speaker 1: can argue, debate and do whatever right now. So going
Speaker 1: with that issue. Man, it's good to hear man, it's
Speaker 1: good to hear you. And he man, I'm talking. I'm
Speaker 1: saying something to you when you could meet him. Now,
Speaker 1: So what do you on my line? Okay? Talk about
Speaker 1: I want to just tell Reggie something real quick because
Speaker 1: we only got two minutes left before his calls cut off.
Speaker 1: But two police officers in Chicago were indicted and another
Speaker 1: officer in Arlington, Texas was indicted for killing killing a man.
Speaker 1: Did they kill them, did they kill him? Did they
Speaker 1: catch him on camera phones? I don't know. I was
Speaker 1: just reading these articles. But an officer in Arlington, Texas
Speaker 1: was just charged. I told you social media. I've been
Speaker 1: the proponent telling y'all I love social media and the
Speaker 1: camera phones because it's catching because stupid and people came
Speaker 1: rush that, push that under the rug. Everybody always don't
Speaker 1: give me the credit for that. I always give the
Speaker 1: camera phones and people with camera phones and social media
Speaker 1: just say'd be smart about how you're doing it and
Speaker 1: how you're putting it in their face. But I love
Speaker 1: that they doing that because now moveent doing super was
Speaker 1: getting away for superdo can't do that anymore? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: know it when no accident, they got caught on county
Speaker 1: with no accident. Man, And to put the pressure on
Speaker 1: society and and all of that to deal with that,
Speaker 1: it's you know, the law enforcements and all that. That's
Speaker 1: why the chiefs don't like opening up their city. So
Speaker 1: I think they'd be trying to cover up the cops
Speaker 1: or whatever. They don't need trying to come up the cops.
Speaker 1: They're trying to cover up their city from major lawsuits.
Speaker 1: That's what everybody forget about that, and that's what y'all
Speaker 1: need to bring out. The remind people when the cities
Speaker 1: when the when when they say that their compidents that
Speaker 1: their employee did something bad, it opens up a city
Speaker 1: for major lawsuits. And that's fine. A lot of the
Speaker 1: l a p D. Thing was covered up that was
Speaker 1: doing the interview you're doing. Let me ask you're trying
Speaker 1: to get you got one minute left and then y'all
Speaker 1: can talk about this. She's gonna after I'm on the phone,
Speaker 1: but go ahead. And when I'm I'm waiting on your letter,
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on you to hit me. And uh, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I know your date right now, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna know your dating two weeks. So when
Speaker 1: you uh, there's papam Uh, I ain't gonna put it
Speaker 1: out there. Ain't gonna let nobody know when you when
Speaker 1: you're coming back. But I'm waiting on that letter, man,
Speaker 1: so I can uh send you something. You're good with
Speaker 1: money right now? I'm good man, I'm good. You know.
Speaker 1: I appreciate everybody just showing you know, me. I wanted
Speaker 1: those to believe like flowers, you showing me and your love,
Speaker 1: even though you can use it to anythink with flowers
Speaker 1: at the funeral, but when you send them there, the
Speaker 1: family feel good about the flowers when they come because
Speaker 1: I show you the people love you and got some
Speaker 1: respectful what you did and what you're doing. You're talking
Speaker 1: totally different like right now, yeah this' man, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like getting mad because this ain't the ridge.
Speaker 1: We're sitting right here in this chair. I'm cleoling about
Speaker 1: to lose it. But man, I appreciate you all I get, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, I get three hundred minutes
Speaker 1: a weekend. I'm about out. I mean, I'm found out,
Speaker 1: but it'll be all good. I get my re uh
Speaker 1: my re up on the sixteenth, and like I said,
Speaker 1: I'll say fifteen minutes more for us so we can
Speaker 1: chop it again next weekend exactly whenever you need something whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't can watch it out for my number. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: still I try to call him earlier too, so you
Speaker 1: got to pick up my call. Man, I don't do
Speaker 1: it h unknown and all of I don't know who
Speaker 1: it is. You said me, too. Man, Come on, big boy,
Speaker 1: but take this out, man, you take it. Take a break,
Speaker 1: check this out. If you ever need whatever you need, Doug,
Speaker 1: if if you did, you get your walkman and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. Man, I mean you know there music. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, he just got cut off. That was fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: So there you go. You guys got a little taste
Speaker 1: of Reggie Wright from Atwater Federal Prison. Him and I
Speaker 1: hopefully he'll check in every week. What do you think
Speaker 1: can you hit you up every week? So all right,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do a little something different this episode. Um,
Speaker 1: We're gonna play an audio and then we got a
Speaker 1: special interview to come coming up after this audio. On
Speaker 1: this episode of The Gangster Chronicles, we chronicle the life
Speaker 1: of tree Top Piroue, member of Fins Obama known in
Speaker 1: the Streets of Company, California, Ya Junior Junior was a
Speaker 1: drug dealer at Bank Robert who spent his entire twenties
Speaker 1: and the Federal Penitentiary. Born in Lost Angeles, California, in
Speaker 1: the year nineteen seventy six, he can recall first touching
Speaker 1: down the comp I was born and raised. I was
Speaker 1: born in Labor raised in Compton, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I'm born in l A. Getting it. But when it
Speaker 1: really started, my life started taking off. And when I
Speaker 1: moved to Compence and I moved to Compton to teens
Speaker 1: somewhere sixteens somewhere in there. And then uh, my first
Speaker 1: house in Compton we moved to was in Crewtown neighborhood
Speaker 1: on Willowbrook and Ors, right behind the liquor store where
Speaker 1: the train tracks are and all that over it over there.
Speaker 1: So we stayed there about a year or two. And
Speaker 1: during that time, when that year or two, I used
Speaker 1: to go to the liquor stof right there, and I
Speaker 1: used to see all the food cown dudes that you know,
Speaker 1: guys in my age, maybe a little older, and it
Speaker 1: wasn't on, no game bang, and said it was just
Speaker 1: all the sun, man, what's going on? Okay? But they
Speaker 1: hit me and where you staying? Where your stall over here?
Speaker 1: It's okay? Right on. So then we moved the Tree
Speaker 1: Top neighborhood, which was about a mile or two up
Speaker 1: the road right there on willow Brook and Rose Clans.
Speaker 1: But my house sat right on Covert. As a younger
Speaker 1: man running the streets of Company, California, Junior found himself
Speaker 1: a man with the streets and everything. He thought of
Speaker 1: me off. So when I moved there, that's when all
Speaker 1: hell broke loose. And when I mean by that, that's
Speaker 1: when I really got to getting loose and started feeling
Speaker 1: I want to be you know, I want to be
Speaker 1: in the streets and you know, but I wouldn't game
Speaker 1: ban And then I knew him when I wasn't from
Speaker 1: the hood. That was soon changed because he not only
Speaker 1: lived in the neighborhood, but Junior frequently socialized with members
Speaker 1: of the tree Top by Route and the one laziness
Speaker 1: from each your boys could rocks. He would soon go
Speaker 1: from an affiliate to a full flags camester, not just
Speaker 1: living in the hood cleanion as well. So I started
Speaker 1: hanging around, hanging around, you know, then knowing them, and
Speaker 1: they knew already knew I stayed in the house so
Speaker 1: they wouldn't trip it. So one night we had my
Speaker 1: homeboy House Chaos. And this is where I get put on.
Speaker 1: We have my homeboy house Chaos, Rest in Peace. We're
Speaker 1: in his garage, so it's him, the homely Joe Boy
Speaker 1: Rest in Peace and the homeboy little Devil, and uh,
Speaker 1: we sitting there hanging out. You know, dude, teenagers do
Speaker 1: you know talking to shift, you know, listening to music,
Speaker 1: and Joe Boy and Little Devil they're looking at each
Speaker 1: other and then they're talking to me. I ain't think
Speaker 1: none of it. We're just children because I know him.
Speaker 1: So they started getting me with the court says, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you know you've been hanging with us for a wow. Man,
Speaker 1: you've been you know, you're living up with them, You've
Speaker 1: been hanging around. And I was like, yeah, it's cool, man,
Speaker 1: I ain't got no phone with us. So then he
Speaker 1: said what they say, you know, when you're gonna school
Speaker 1: and me walking, nobody to be hitting me or where
Speaker 1: you're from on No, not really. I'm naive. I have
Speaker 1: no idea what's about to come. So the homeboyd Little
Speaker 1: Devil take off of me and the other dude because
Speaker 1: my other homeboys, yo, boy, he get in. They're not
Speaker 1: dogging me out, but they you know, they're giving it
Speaker 1: to me. So I'm I'm fighting back. Boom, boom, We're
Speaker 1: going We're going. This lasted for about about breathe six
Speaker 1: by six minutes boom, but it feels like a lifetime
Speaker 1: because I'm not knowing what's going on? So after that,
Speaker 1: everybody laughing. So that let me think, oh, this ship
Speaker 1: was playing. They just needed the time to get me,
Speaker 1: you know, in the spot. So now I'm from the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. From now, I'm from the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: and I'm paro. After being quarter done, Junior was officially
Speaker 1: on the seat, but he didn't exactly become a rider
Speaker 1: for the hood overnight, you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: I'm not going full flash like yeah and nig I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go killing somebody now. Was none of that. I
Speaker 1: was just okay, I'm parou now, So okay if it
Speaker 1: felt the thing, because I'm still hanging out the ship
Speaker 1: I've been doing. I was basically doing the same ship
Speaker 1: I've been done before I got put on, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. The funny Games was soon ceased. This
Speaker 1: was the early nineties and you're the conclusion of the
Speaker 1: crack era. The very few legal opportunities and decided to
Speaker 1: want more. Junior was soon into the Shark and Festive
Speaker 1: Water to the rock Cocaine tree man. Let me tell
Speaker 1: you this ship happened so fucking fast, man, It seemed
Speaker 1: like once that happened, that's when it was written that
Speaker 1: everything starts happening. So I'm trying to get money, you know,
Speaker 1: out here seeing what they do, and I had no car,
Speaker 1: no transportation at all. The young nigga asking mom because
Speaker 1: he telling up over here, could you take me to
Speaker 1: my girlfriendous? And I'm going on all these different Brols neighborhood.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm like, and you know, I have no transportation.
Speaker 1: So I go look for a job because Mom is
Speaker 1: on my head on. I went to look for a job.
Speaker 1: I built out of application and nothing came up it.
Speaker 1: So I was like, fuck. So my homeboy, Joe Boy,
Speaker 1: the one who put me on, he had his little
Speaker 1: he was selling his little work, so he threw me
Speaker 1: a little something. I guess it was calms boys. And
Speaker 1: now he's gonna ahead and see what you can do
Speaker 1: with it, because I'm like, okay, cool. So now I'm
Speaker 1: in the drug business selling rocks. But I'm making enough
Speaker 1: money just to keep my page room, get something from
Speaker 1: the Hamburger San, you know, just to go to farm
Speaker 1: me boy t shirt here and there or something like that.
Speaker 1: Not exactly what you would call falling. It was time
Speaker 1: for exu you to elevate his hustle. One of his
Speaker 1: big homies put him up with the water hustle. For
Speaker 1: those mattering to know, water is slang for PCP. You see,
Speaker 1: Junior live in the part of town known the Sherm Manley,
Speaker 1: so he had easy access to those looking to get wet. Now,
Speaker 1: my other old homeboy he coming through, he wrote, but
Speaker 1: he's not selling rock in the water game. So he
Speaker 1: put me onto that and I was like, oh, ship okay,
Speaker 1: So yeah, how did this work? Because I had no
Speaker 1: idea how that worked. I've seen it done, but I
Speaker 1: just don't know what the business book. And he laced me.
Speaker 1: He was like, what's good for you? You lived right
Speaker 1: in the spot, so you don't get all attractive. Another
Speaker 1: thing that helped me was it was a liquor store
Speaker 1: right across the street. I mean right there was called
Speaker 1: these Liquor. Anybody from me at that area they know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Right across seat from the Douglass department.
Speaker 1: They sold cigarettes singles for a quarter and oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was it. They come get their figurettes for a quarter.
Speaker 1: Come see me, man. It was on in Popa. So
Speaker 1: now I got a little money going, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Still no car yet, and I got a
Speaker 1: little money going, so that we're rolling doing that, doing that.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm hitting them off. I'm making you know,
Speaker 1: some decent better than what I was doing with the rocks.
Speaker 1: Junior suffered from what's called the drug dealer's curse. It's
Speaker 1: never enough money. Even though he was making thousands of
Speaker 1: dollars selling water, It's still wasn't enough. It's never enough.
Speaker 1: But the next hustle ex Junior with a barking plump
Speaker 1: would change his life forever. Another homeboy from Fruit Count,
Speaker 1: other old dude, he come by. He you know that
Speaker 1: little player dude boots, cowboy boots, you know, little trinketsone
Speaker 1: and ship catalec. I don't know what the first man
Speaker 1: I used, you know, he said, I'm hitting you know,
Speaker 1: I'm hitting licks. I'm okay, can't be robbing no liquor
Speaker 1: store because it ain't the settings and it ain't no
Speaker 1: grocery store. So I'm thinking drewelry store. He's like, no, man,
Speaker 1: I'll be running up in those things. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Oh, ship man, So you know, let me
Speaker 1: know what's going on. He said, I'm gonna ho at
Speaker 1: you about that. For a couple of weeks passed by,
Speaker 1: you know, he comes through the hopping the car. So
Speaker 1: we've been a few on us. Now. He put me
Speaker 1: up one bank rod. He said, I got a lick
Speaker 1: coming up next week. You want to roll. I'm like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: nig let's do it. So the David Porter lick, he
Speaker 1: comes to the neighborhood. We're going over all the bootprints
Speaker 1: on what we're gonna do. He lacing me ship. They're
Speaker 1: gonna get the money, ESSENTI sure all he just going there,
Speaker 1: you know, do this. I got to I got to
Speaker 1: heat us and got everything. Okay. So the next day
Speaker 1: he comes scooped me up and we go to his spot.
Speaker 1: That's where everybody hanging out. That's the start of the
Speaker 1: little get down. So he got the g ride, so
Speaker 1: we give me the little woo walking. This is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do going there at this time. It's in
Speaker 1: the morning, it's about eight o'clock, so we want to
Speaker 1: be in there about nine fifteen n twenties somewhere, because
Speaker 1: that's somethings so cool. So we had an older dude
Speaker 1: who was a driver like you know grandfather, but he
Speaker 1: was still kind of had a little swag to him
Speaker 1: back then. He was always our driving. It was like,
Speaker 1: so we go to the thing, we roll up in there, boom,
Speaker 1: let me out. We got the bucket of water in
Speaker 1: the car. I have no idea was this before until
Speaker 1: he telled me before we go. We sit now because
Speaker 1: any tracking devices or any ink bag to anything. Soon
Speaker 1: as you get in the car, you dump the money
Speaker 1: in this bag and don't take that out until we
Speaker 1: get to what we're going. Cool, we're going there. Put
Speaker 1: the lick down. I'll go in there. Everybody get down, robbery,
Speaker 1: lay down, don't touch nothing, don't say many So I
Speaker 1: hop over the desk. That's before they put all that
Speaker 1: bull shit over. You can't get back there. So I'm
Speaker 1: telling the lady, put the money in the bag. She
Speaker 1: getting all the money together, dropping ship. She nervous and
Speaker 1: crying and ship and you know what, you're putting all
Speaker 1: the money in the bag. Now, my even, this is
Speaker 1: my first kid down. Never dragged nobody, never robbed nobody.
Speaker 1: I went straight to the pro. So I'm doing good.
Speaker 1: Get the bag of money, we roll out, get in
Speaker 1: the car, the money in the bag, lay down the
Speaker 1: order dude driving. So we're thriving about about ten minutes.
Speaker 1: I say, what we're looking like, it's all we're good man.
Speaker 1: I hear the signs, but I ain't on nothing, ain't
Speaker 1: nowhere in there is So now I can fill the car.
Speaker 1: Getting on the freeway, you say, just lay down. We're cool.
Speaker 1: We're cool. So we roll a were rolling, and the
Speaker 1: further we rolled, the less I hear the fucking sirens,
Speaker 1: but I can't see nothing because he's telling me to
Speaker 1: stay down. So I'm like we because he's, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're cool man. We almost to the neighborhood. So we
Speaker 1: get to the neighborhood, we get out. You know, Nickers
Speaker 1: is happy, you know we got away. He was all
Speaker 1: you we did. We don't be all you know. We
Speaker 1: calmed down. So we go in there and cut up
Speaker 1: the money. So we chake the money out the water bag,
Speaker 1: out the water buckets, put it in a little dryer.
Speaker 1: Because he's done this before. I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker 1: So he put in the dry and in the drive
Speaker 1: and ironered out. We're cutting up the money. We talked.
Speaker 1: He was like damn, yeah, yeah, now this is my
Speaker 1: first one, and I remember it like it was yesterday.
Speaker 1: So I got my cut. It was about thirty five
Speaker 1: hundred thirty five four racks something like that. Now, but
Speaker 1: before he dis first the money, he's like, all everybody
Speaker 1: to sit on it. Don't do ship, don't buy nothing,
Speaker 1: don't kill nobody nothing, don't do nothing. At this time,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the money. But I still got my
Speaker 1: little water thing going. I'm still doing that. But I'm
Speaker 1: anxious because I'm kicking it. I know I got the
Speaker 1: stats going, so I don't see nobody For about a week.
Speaker 1: Junior had found whether in this young ass looked to
Speaker 1: be a much better hustle. He had successfully pulled off
Speaker 1: his first bank robbery. He had made more money in
Speaker 1: ten minutes than he would have made working a whole
Speaker 1: week in sher Mallen. He was eager to hit more licks.
Speaker 1: So I finally see the onboard who orchestrated the ship,
Speaker 1: and he laughed. He's smiling, you know, he got a smoke.
Speaker 1: How are you doing, man, what's going on? How you living?
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm good man. It's like cool, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you yeah, we're good. We're good. So we I go
Speaker 1: line off. You know line, I'm young, you known go
Speaker 1: to swap me. Now I buy the home boy car.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and you know, and then
Speaker 1: I say him again. He's like, man, you know you're
Speaker 1: down to do another. So this is how now I'm
Speaker 1: a professional because I'm doing more and more and more,
Speaker 1: and the states getting hire, the money is getting more
Speaker 1: and all that ship. Junior and his crew were going
Speaker 1: and hit several more successful bank licks, but in the
Speaker 1: game nothing lass where greed is the hustless curse, and
Speaker 1: Junior would take a loss trying to flip this bank
Speaker 1: robbery proceeds, and as we know, Bosters don't make losses,
Speaker 1: so he had to try to get his back and
Speaker 1: what would be his final lick. All the signs to
Speaker 1: aport the robbery were there, but they didn't pay attention.
Speaker 1: All right, So I did a bottle three more after that,
Speaker 1: which was okay. It was okay, and I did three
Speaker 1: more after that. But I'm still I'm balling now. Man,
Speaker 1: I'm seventeen eighteen. I'm balling back in the nineties. Now.
Speaker 1: This is this is like ninety three, ninety four, somewhere
Speaker 1: ninety somewhere in there, so I'm bought all cast. So
Speaker 1: now I have this uh family friend who knew me
Speaker 1: since I was a kid. He from nine oh, but
Speaker 1: my girl relative been with his brother since eighty four
Speaker 1: eighty five, so he's seen us grow up and everything.
Speaker 1: But he was well, he rested in peace. Now. So
Speaker 1: he was a big de boy from nine oh, big
Speaker 1: de boy. So now during that time, I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I need to come see for whatever. He's like, okay,
Speaker 1: what's she got? So I take the nigga twenty rack
Speaker 1: for for for uh, you know, from work. I know
Speaker 1: little rocks, So I take the twenty racks for a bird.
Speaker 1: This nigga stiff. So now I said, okay, well he bullshit.
Speaker 1: He answered his fun you know, he ain't hit me up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so now even the weight of my pockets,
Speaker 1: I just say fucking thinking of okay, I hit the homeboy. Man,
Speaker 1: we need to go do another one. He was like, okay, cool.
Speaker 1: So this time all the red listening careful, all the
Speaker 1: red flags was there. Not to fucking go. So I
Speaker 1: go take I go take us du from nine oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him to twenty rats. I counted out
Speaker 1: poop from poom poom pool. So I'm gonna take him
Speaker 1: to twenty rats. I don't hear nothing from him, nothing
Speaker 1: for him. So in the process I get with the
Speaker 1: homeboy from Fruittown bands. Okay, we're gonna do another one.
Speaker 1: This was in Lone Beach. I never forget. This was
Speaker 1: in Lone Beach. So the girl I was dealing with
Speaker 1: at the time the night before, I said, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: already knowing what I'm going to do. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: there about nine thirty. Do the things. So about can
Speaker 1: I'll be home. I was gonna pick her up at eleven.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go kick it, you know all that that
Speaker 1: ship we meet up over the plans. Hit the fucking
Speaker 1: car number one, a red flag. The motherfucking old man.
Speaker 1: The driver was sucking late with the car. So we
Speaker 1: meet up at the same time. It's like a thirty
Speaker 1: We post being the motherfucking bank at nine. The Niger
Speaker 1: didn't show up till nine, so we're like, okay, who
Speaker 1: So now we get the car. He turned the car.
Speaker 1: We're going there and you know, do our little mapping
Speaker 1: and playing and we get in the car. We got
Speaker 1: the bucket of water. We got this the heat of everything.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker cut it won't start, so we're like, fuck man,
Speaker 1: didn't even pay attention. That's red flag number two. Finally
Speaker 1: we get the motherfucker to start. Boom, get on the freeway.
Speaker 1: We're going a long beach to do our things. Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: getting flat tired. That's red flag number three. So we're
Speaker 1: on the freeway by this time, this motherfucking nine thirties.
Speaker 1: We post a BN out of the bank already, were
Speaker 1: on our way to the motherfucker, but we're on the
Speaker 1: freeway stuck. Red flag number four. We're sitting there fucking
Speaker 1: with the tire ship. Now, we got bucket of water
Speaker 1: in the back seat and we got the heaters in
Speaker 1: the back seat. The motherfucking highway patrol pull up behind
Speaker 1: us and he says, oh you guys, all right, you
Speaker 1: need to help me first, didn't cut of my mind?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, somebody on their way right now. We're just
Speaker 1: trying to, you know, harry up and get this going
Speaker 1: so it won't be too much trouble when they're getting there. Nigga,
Speaker 1: my heart is beating like a motherfucker. I'm like, oh Dan,
Speaker 1: and then my page are going off from the girl
Speaker 1: I was denal with because remember I'm supposed to go
Speaker 1: pick her up at eleven, so we should go hang
Speaker 1: out and kick it. By this time, it's sucking ten
Speaker 1: o'clock and we we ain't nowhere near the fucking bank,
Speaker 1: so we pressed the issue. We go do our things.
Speaker 1: The motherfuckings didn't even get no money because the police
Speaker 1: was already there. I guess they must have seen us
Speaker 1: roll up when we first hit the parking lot, so
Speaker 1: we go inside. We're here, the police fucking aboard mentioned
Speaker 1: I roll out hopping the car. That's sucking high speed chase.
Speaker 1: It's all bad, man, And then we were running from
Speaker 1: Long Beach to the sucking ghetto birders on. This Long
Speaker 1: Beach is not that far from Conference, so we get
Speaker 1: to Compton right there on fucking rolls crans in Mayo.
Speaker 1: That's when the fucking ship just deceased to stop at
Speaker 1: the red light. I hop out the car. But when
Speaker 1: I hopped out the car, that motherfucking drivers smashed on
Speaker 1: the gas and fucking smash my arm between the fucking
Speaker 1: door and the sucking uh he flosed, throwing my arm,
Speaker 1: So I gotta broken arms. I'm tumbling in the street.
Speaker 1: I hear everything is going on so fast, and I
Speaker 1: hear the motherfucking lady police. He's been hit. He's been hit.
Speaker 1: Wait wait wait, So they picked me up. They got
Speaker 1: the guns on me, but they know him sucked up,
Speaker 1: so they set me on the curves and this is
Speaker 1: when I realized, okay, it's over. So we the first
Speaker 1: place I go to but to the hospital. They come
Speaker 1: into the bed. They send me in a wheelchair and
Speaker 1: they coming into that. Then they comes into the bed.
Speaker 1: They wrap up my arm and this is when all
Speaker 1: the motherfucking up the police with the guns in the badge,
Speaker 1: I don't see them no more. It's motherfucker's his suits.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, it's it's it's all bad here. Man. Man,
Speaker 1: that was an incredible story. And guess what, y'all we
Speaker 1: got Junior in the studio. What's happening? What's happening? Hey man?
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming down down and uh and sharing your
Speaker 1: story with us. Oh yeah, thanks for having me. Man. Man,
Speaker 1: that was crazy. But should I want to start off
Speaker 1: right with asking and you said you guys pulled into
Speaker 1: the bank, but you never went into the bank to
Speaker 1: rob the bank. Well, when we when we pulled in,
Speaker 1: we got out with the mask on. They must have
Speaker 1: seen us coming and they must have hit the button.
Speaker 1: And then once we got in there and we didn't
Speaker 1: even I didn't even get to lay anybody down because
Speaker 1: we're here the sirens. So he was like, fuck it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you guys walked into the bank but didn't do nothing. No, no, no.
Speaker 1: Once we got in, we heard the sirens and and
Speaker 1: and everybody in the parking lot. You can see what's
Speaker 1: going on because now it's late, so everybody who's supposed
Speaker 1: to be at the bank is there. The parking a
Speaker 1: lot crowded, and it's just it's just the chaos. Is
Speaker 1: that considered an actual robbery? Yeah? Was it considered an
Speaker 1: attempted arm robbery because you guys never really drew down
Speaker 1: on anybody. No, but they got one gun. Remember when
Speaker 1: they pulled us over, I had my arm broke, so
Speaker 1: I went to the hospital. I didn't find out. These
Speaker 1: niggas got called to it later. So they had one gun,
Speaker 1: and then that's what they say, we was attempted to
Speaker 1: use in the fucking robbery. What are you think of that, James?
Speaker 1: That's that's I mean, just listening to that, it's crazy. Um,
Speaker 1: just the way you're coming up. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying you is the dope game and it just feed you.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that ain't and ain't buying
Speaker 1: you a car, It ain't dressing you the way you
Speaker 1: want to be dressed. You can't care you girl, So
Speaker 1: you step your game up. So bank robbing was and
Speaker 1: back in that days, he wouldn't only want robbing banks.
Speaker 1: Everybody was trying to get into that. The end of
Speaker 1: the day, it was just everybody went to prison. So
Speaker 1: just being on that journey, I mean, just the last day,
Speaker 1: at what point did you think, man, then me just
Speaker 1: just ain't working, Let's go home. I wasn't thinking that,
Speaker 1: but I knew, like damn, it's all when you in
Speaker 1: that type of lifestyle robbing, timing is everything. Whether you're
Speaker 1: going to hits, you know, do a home invasion or whatever.
Speaker 1: This timing is everything. And we was all off timing.
Speaker 1: But you know, me being young and thinking about the
Speaker 1: niggerhold me my money, and I'm trying to even out
Speaker 1: of my pockets. I said, I'm pushing, I'm already sucking here.
Speaker 1: Let me just go. But it wouldn't have been no
Speaker 1: problem saying, you know what, man would do this ship tomorrow,
Speaker 1: but nobody stepped up to say it. We just forced
Speaker 1: the issue, and forcing the issue got me fucking all
Speaker 1: my twenties in jail. Wow. So that I hear that right,
Speaker 1: that the guy took twenty racks from you and a
Speaker 1: deal that never happened. Deal never happened, And and during
Speaker 1: my court case doing going through prison, I still I
Speaker 1: ain't never heard from him since up to well, he
Speaker 1: he passed away now, but before he passed never like
Speaker 1: I got half, if I got some, I got a
Speaker 1: little bit, none of that. So were you asking about
Speaker 1: around like where's this dude that he owes me twenty racks?
Speaker 1: Were you having people on them? We'll see. That's a
Speaker 1: good question because come to find out, he was already
Speaker 1: under the microscope from the fest, so he was already
Speaker 1: on the run. So I think that was his little
Speaker 1: getaway money, which was my money. So that was his
Speaker 1: intention the entire time, the entire time. But I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking about all this until you know, you
Speaker 1: get to sit down and you get like fun and
Speaker 1: then man, my relative, we're talking about it and he
Speaker 1: put it on my mind like he was already hot.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, but that was his little run money,
Speaker 1: my twenty rats because when I get to the room,
Speaker 1: he got some work there. But that wasn't for me.
Speaker 1: And now that I think about it, that could have
Speaker 1: been a set up there anyway. I could have went
Speaker 1: to sail behind that. Being in the hotel, drugs on
Speaker 1: the bed, that's just a wreck waiting to happen. So
Speaker 1: were you buy yourself when you tried to buy all
Speaker 1: this work, because that's yeah, yeah, yea, y'all. And you
Speaker 1: was kind of new in the drug game at that time.
Speaker 1: Well I wasn't. I was new to that level. That level,
Speaker 1: I was new, but as far as you know rock pushing,
Speaker 1: I would new to that. But yeah, yeah, I was
Speaker 1: new to that. And then I'm looking up to him
Speaker 1: because I know he's the he's up there. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody knew who he was. I'm like, okay, cool. I
Speaker 1: was comfortable. So I just counted out and here you
Speaker 1: go and never seen him again. But I was smart,
Speaker 1: like they might ain't heard from this dude in a minute,
Speaker 1: so he ain't asking my pace. Well Patriots back then
Speaker 1: and asked my pace. So I said, you know what
Speaker 1: he might he might have did you know he might
Speaker 1: have did me? So let me go. Yeah, food man, listen,
Speaker 1: but my mind is I should go robb another bank.
Speaker 1: That's how I felt I should go rob another bank.
Speaker 1: Get that back like that. I was just that comfortable
Speaker 1: go in, you know, get what I'm gonna get. And
Speaker 1: I'm already feeling myself because you know they pumped me
Speaker 1: about you a natural man. I'm just like, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: I'm a professional and I'm just going to rob another bank.
Speaker 1: But that day, uh, it was all man. That day, man,
Speaker 1: it was that day was bad man, bad. Now you
Speaker 1: end up in see the block neighborhood after moving around
Speaker 1: a couple of times and the sherm Allley that was
Speaker 1: mentioned in the story, Uh take us back to that
Speaker 1: where exactly what sherm Allley and and you know, trying
Speaker 1: to draw the picture for us, what did it look
Speaker 1: like there? Uh, Sheron Mallley was back then? It was
Speaker 1: it was popping back there, you know, tree Top pie Rouge.
Speaker 1: You know you got the homies back there. You know
Speaker 1: you got crack being sold back there. Fruit I'm living. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then I moved the Tree Top neighborhood, you know, about
Speaker 1: a mile up to you know. So once I moved
Speaker 1: to uh Tree Top neighborhood, my address is one thousand
Speaker 1: eight North Coover Avenue, right on Rose Crans and Ruler Brooks.
Speaker 1: So and that's when Rose Crans was a motherfucker too.
Speaker 1: They didn't have no you know, dividers in the street.
Speaker 1: You get caught by the train tracks and ain't suposed
Speaker 1: to be over there. It's you know, good night, Irene.
Speaker 1: But I lived over there, and that's where it was,
Speaker 1: some back apartments over there, and my homeboy from Fruittown,
Speaker 1: snake Man, used to be back there, so we all
Speaker 1: used to hang out back there. So it was nothing
Speaker 1: for me to just you know, be back there selling sherm.
Speaker 1: And then, like I was telling James earlier, at night,
Speaker 1: I went to the store and bought this a little nightlight,
Speaker 1: not enough to light up the room. But if you
Speaker 1: come by late at night and you see that little
Speaker 1: light on, that means shop is open. So you just
Speaker 1: you know, and I'm gonna I'm gonna hook you up
Speaker 1: in the in the liquor store. Deed's Liquor was right
Speaker 1: across the street. And that's when they were selling cigarettes
Speaker 1: for a quarter, single cigarettes. So they go get their
Speaker 1: single cigarettes, come see me and uh getting a little
Speaker 1: dip and then you know, going about their business. Man.
Speaker 1: That's always been a hustle that has lasted forever. I
Speaker 1: think the seventies people were selling sherm. It lasted through
Speaker 1: the eighties and then the nineties and to this day.
Speaker 1: And see that's why I don't I'm not mentioned no
Speaker 1: names because it's probably people still you know, doing that.
Speaker 1: Everybody's still doing. It's still a black because Blacks of
Speaker 1: lost control of like cocaine, they lost control of all
Speaker 1: some of the drugs. But um water is still something
Speaker 1: that ain't going nowhere. You know how to make it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna always have money, Yeah that is. As long
Speaker 1: as they make cigarettes, you're gonna be all right too.
Speaker 1: They'll find some other way to dip it. But just
Speaker 1: just growing up moving over there, knowing that Compton was
Speaker 1: was it was wide when you moved over there in
Speaker 1: that time, oh yeah, man, and then getting the hommies
Speaker 1: hanging out with certain people and then down they setting
Speaker 1: you up to jump you in coming to the hood.
Speaker 1: And back then in the day someone who has used
Speaker 1: to do the jump in thing. Now the homeboys get
Speaker 1: your say imposed to you feedl to be from the hood.
Speaker 1: We need to jump you in, Doug, come on, let's
Speaker 1: do this, you know, get you ready, right, they've basically sneaking,
Speaker 1: and because see the way I look at it now,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, the MC world. I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta hang around and see if we want you here.
Speaker 1: You know we ain't. We ain't starving for numbers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: possibly you hang around. So since I lived in the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: they need my sister and my mom's that I lived
Speaker 1: right in the purple house on the corner. So they're like,
Speaker 1: we go the nigger, so we might as well. And
Speaker 1: then what's funny about that story real quick is the
Speaker 1: fruit towns they kind of felt some type of way
Speaker 1: because I lived over there first, remember, and then now
Speaker 1: from tree tops like, damn nigg you should have been
Speaker 1: from over here. But whatever, it's all you know. Now,
Speaker 1: the way you got put on is kind of unusual
Speaker 1: because usually you get put on, you know you're about
Speaker 1: to get put on. It's a day at the time.
Speaker 1: The spot, they're kind of just blindsided. You have to
Speaker 1: put on, Huh, how do you feel where you? Did
Speaker 1: you know it was coming or just completely surprised you. No,
Speaker 1: it surprised me because before, like I said, it wasn't
Speaker 1: nothing different. Once I I put on, I'm doing the
Speaker 1: same ship I've been doing. I'm still hanging out. I
Speaker 1: was hanging out with them before they come to the house.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Let me use your phone.
Speaker 1: We hang out. But at that time, it's like ship.
Speaker 1: You know, people feel you over here. If crips come through,
Speaker 1: they ain't gonna ask. So he ain't from the neighborhood,
Speaker 1: so you just move out the way you in the
Speaker 1: group to in the group, so you know. And that's
Speaker 1: where I realized. Once you start claiming something or I'm
Speaker 1: from over here, you sign your name on the dotted
Speaker 1: line for anything that comes with that. You know, so
Speaker 1: you gotta ask questions. Don't just be naivea oskay, why
Speaker 1: we don't get along with those dudes? You know what?
Speaker 1: What's the beef? So you would know you're supposed to
Speaker 1: know your history about your own neighborhood. Okay, you just
Speaker 1: don't go with the flow because then you get mixed
Speaker 1: up in some ship and you supposed to be on
Speaker 1: a level where you know everything. So you talked to
Speaker 1: the O G. So why are we donna get along
Speaker 1: with them? Okay? All right? And it's always nine times
Speaker 1: out of tansome dumb shit either dice game or broad
Speaker 1: pillow talking or whatever, you know, some dumb ship. But
Speaker 1: at that time, and James will tell you it, it
Speaker 1: was it felt good in the power room. Man. You
Speaker 1: can go ros clients go to in net room. Yeahs Park,
Speaker 1: they're throwing something. We mob everybody you know saying c cars,
Speaker 1: you're throwing it up. It just felt good. But now,
Speaker 1: as he told me, and I know, it ain't like that,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of left left a bitter feeling for
Speaker 1: me because I'm under the old law, you know, no
Speaker 1: disrespect to anybody out there. But when I chose to
Speaker 1: be at Paru, I stick to the G code, and
Speaker 1: that's why I got that ship right here on my neck.
Speaker 1: I stick to the G code. And for me, the
Speaker 1: G code is if you owe a nigga money, pam
Speaker 1: you know, if you get into it, squash them, you know,
Speaker 1: because a lot of niggas still be alive. And they were, Hey, James,
Speaker 1: you know what, man, I was fucked up, man, Sorry
Speaker 1: about that, and it's you know, it's all good, but
Speaker 1: you gotta be sincere. But you know it's pride. Man.
Speaker 1: You don't want you know, you don't. You don't. You
Speaker 1: don't want to feel like a bit that you apologize.
Speaker 1: But now I lived by prison rules and what I
Speaker 1: mean by that I respect everything. If I make eye
Speaker 1: contact with you, I'm gonna say something. You got a
Speaker 1: better perspective going to prison and seeing different things opposed
Speaker 1: to just been in the hood. You actually, you grow
Speaker 1: in prison, Oh ship, I had to grow up overnight
Speaker 1: because when you check in all that feelings for your
Speaker 1: girl and oh uh this my car, you leave that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: your story is different because you never went to Lost
Speaker 1: Madrinas and none of that. You went from the streets
Speaker 1: straight to to federal prison. No playoffs, no no pre season,
Speaker 1: no play to federal prison. How did you feel just
Speaker 1: just never going to jail and then just just you
Speaker 1: gotta grow up today? I'm well, you know you always
Speaker 1: have people who I'll tell you, hey, y, I'm slow down, man,
Speaker 1: But adrenaline. You know you're waking up every day. What
Speaker 1: I'm gonna by today because you got and everything was cash.
Speaker 1: See now we are at the level where, oh, just
Speaker 1: use your car or just do it online. But I'm
Speaker 1: from it every and your pockets ain't fat. You know
Speaker 1: what You're I'm talking about getting locked up and going straight.
Speaker 1: You're not going to a county jail and get process.
Speaker 1: But don't you go to m DC first. I went
Speaker 1: to Yep. I went to m d C. I spent
Speaker 1: two years and yeah, yeah, and it was different there
Speaker 1: because I didn't know anybody that's been there before. So
Speaker 1: I'm already preparing myself. You know, I got gang tattoos,
Speaker 1: so I got long hair, so I already know. Okay,
Speaker 1: And when they process you, when you naked, they take
Speaker 1: pictures of your tattoos and put you in the book
Speaker 1: and shift. So don't as soon as I get up there, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, but then I'm looking like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: look like no fucking jail, you know. I'm sorry, it's
Speaker 1: real clean clean. Yeah, you know. I was like seven south.
Speaker 1: So they're shooting basketball and I'm like, wait a minute, okay,
Speaker 1: And then you got the little guard right sitting at
Speaker 1: the table just doing his little book note like okay.
Speaker 1: So once I get settled in there. I had a
Speaker 1: broken arm, mind you. So once I get settled there,
Speaker 1: I ran into a couple of homies from Blackstone. I
Speaker 1: didn't know him, but I met him in there. You know,
Speaker 1: they brief you on who's who and whatever. So they
Speaker 1: you know, they hit me with some commissary and help
Speaker 1: me get my little ship to my room and stuff.
Speaker 1: And then you start realizing. Okay, so they let you know.
Speaker 1: It's pretty you know, mellow here. The black scot their
Speaker 1: own TV. White's got their own TV messing out there
Speaker 1: on TV. So and after the two years of being there,
Speaker 1: so finally when I get my time, now I'm going
Speaker 1: to the yard. But m DC was like a transfer
Speaker 1: station people who coming back fighting their case. So they'll
Speaker 1: let you know. Yeah, when you get to the yard,
Speaker 1: man your homebo okay, and just do this. So when
Speaker 1: I went to Phoenix, Arizona, f CI Phoenix totally different.
Speaker 1: That was a medium. But all the niggas from California
Speaker 1: is in Arizona. Cripts, bloods. You know. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's only when you get you know, so you you
Speaker 1: let it be known. They already know you know where
Speaker 1: you're from. Compton. Okay, your folks over there, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So then you I stayed there for
Speaker 1: about a year, wait till my points go down. Then
Speaker 1: I went to a medium. Now, Uh f CI Phoenix
Speaker 1: is you? You said, so you gotta get locked in,
Speaker 1: and you know if you don't, you know, if you
Speaker 1: ain't on your ship and careful, you can get fund
Speaker 1: off in there. Know what I'm saying. You can. It's
Speaker 1: totally different from from doing state time, because state time
Speaker 1: from from this cell to the bus to getting off
Speaker 1: the bus to wherever they're sending you, it can pop
Speaker 1: off at any time. Uh, you're doing fair time pretty
Speaker 1: much broke you in before a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of homies go to go to prison and get broke,
Speaker 1: be broken before they get there. Because if you can't,
Speaker 1: somebody county jail because that you had cats coming out
Speaker 1: there with wopped heads. They weren't ready for that type
Speaker 1: of ship. It will either make your breaking. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: it's a blessing that you didn't have to go from
Speaker 1: state prison, not saying you wouldn't have made it, because
Speaker 1: a lot of the home is going there and just
Speaker 1: straight with the business. And we could tell right, I
Speaker 1: mean looking at you and knowing you you're with the business,
Speaker 1: so exactly exactly if I come in there claiming something
Speaker 1: I got you, yeah, I don't, you know. And plus
Speaker 1: I can't say I'm not from somewhere I got gang tattoos.
Speaker 1: So it's like, okay, well, hey man, that's that's what
Speaker 1: it is my home for now. You know. That's but
Speaker 1: for me, whenever I'm in some place or meet somebody,
Speaker 1: I set my statement right there. You know, Hey, this
Speaker 1: is who I am, so it won't be no surprises
Speaker 1: at the end. I'm gonna give you the truth and
Speaker 1: ants is where I'm from. No disrespect. I'm junior tree
Speaker 1: to Polkay cool, all right. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: in there like I run the place, but just let
Speaker 1: me know. You do your ship. You know they there.
Speaker 1: You know. It's all about respect first and forth. And
Speaker 1: that's why I say I lived by prison rules. I
Speaker 1: respect everything. If I bump into you, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: excuse me. So as you're at home right now, still
Speaker 1: making uh spreads and ship. You know what, man, when
Speaker 1: I got home, I did it and they were like,
Speaker 1: what the funk are you doing? Then my kids love it.
Speaker 1: I'm making spread. Everybody got their crackers. I still put
Speaker 1: the blastic on the table, put it all down, and
Speaker 1: they love it. But you know what, man, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something. Being in prison, once you realized, you know,
Speaker 1: I have to wake up because everybody thinks I'm going home.
Speaker 1: I'm about to go home. But once you realize should
Speaker 1: I ain't going home until such and such, then you
Speaker 1: learn how to survive. You live in that little space
Speaker 1: and you don't need money. You got that fucking little locker.
Speaker 1: Everything you want when it's in there, you know. And
Speaker 1: and you just got to toller trees your food. You
Speaker 1: just know how to do. You know, you're on your clothes.
Speaker 1: You know how to do stuff. So when you come home,
Speaker 1: you bring that with you. I was up early in
Speaker 1: the morning clean that. What the fun is you doing?
Speaker 1: That's I was on my time like that. But I still,
Speaker 1: like I said, keep some of that with me because
Speaker 1: I know it's about respect. They might not like you,
Speaker 1: but they know I respected it, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I grew up overnight and there because I was nineteen.
Speaker 1: So my birthday is November five. I just had it yesterday,
Speaker 1: So my birthday was November five, So when I turned
Speaker 1: nineteen comes December January, I was gone. I didn't even
Speaker 1: get to enjoy, like you know what I'm saying. None.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, me doing all those robberies
Speaker 1: and having money, I got the experience something just waking up,
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with bitches just you going to the hood.
Speaker 1: Pick Nex. I had not run so earlier. You asked me,
Speaker 1: do I regret it? And I said no, Man, I
Speaker 1: got up and did everything I wanted to do while
Speaker 1: I change anything. Yeah, as soon as the motherfucking car
Speaker 1: wouldn't start, like you know what, man, we're gonna do
Speaker 1: this ship tomorrow. But who knows something then would have
Speaker 1: went back. I might could have got caught up. Just say,
Speaker 1: if I would have went in the drug business and
Speaker 1: everything worked out that way, I could have been sitting
Speaker 1: in jail for forty years or something. So it kind
Speaker 1: of all worked out, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it did work out for you. Now. You
Speaker 1: know what's funny, when you get there, you know what
Speaker 1: you did. So when they you know your trash skips
Speaker 1: everything they got against you, and you think I do
Speaker 1: none of that ship they saying. But I had to
Speaker 1: sit down in the red lives, like, damn man, they're
Speaker 1: saying I did this, And the old dude said, you
Speaker 1: know what, that's just some ship you got away with.
Speaker 1: Coming back, you're just paying for the ship you got
Speaker 1: away with. I was like, man, ain't that a bit
Speaker 1: so go ahead and start to interrupt you. But the
Speaker 1: story that we just heard it end it when you
Speaker 1: got arrested taking into custody. I want to hear about
Speaker 1: what it was like fighting the case, going back and
Speaker 1: forth between MDC and court, and what that process was like.
Speaker 1: On the federal level. Well, it helped because, like Jane said,
Speaker 1: the county jail is fucked up, but being at m
Speaker 1: d C you can deal with it. But you know
Speaker 1: when they wake you up three in the morning and
Speaker 1: go to court and then you're sitting that little nasty
Speaker 1: ass holding tank, they give you that bag lunch and
Speaker 1: you're nervous because it's always okay what I'm going for
Speaker 1: ninety You might get the court and they might say,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna be scheduled this for three
Speaker 1: months down the line, so now you're on the dry run.
Speaker 1: But um, you talked to your public I had a
Speaker 1: public defender of course, so they never offered me a deal.
Speaker 1: And when they presented okay, he never had a bill herry,
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, cool, I can bill out.
Speaker 1: But the public defenders like this dude don't have a
Speaker 1: traffic ticket, he never been in jail, you know, all
Speaker 1: the good stuff. James is like denied flight risks. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the funk is a flight risk? I
Speaker 1: don't know nothing about this, So we whisked me. Was like,
Speaker 1: they think you're gonna, you know, since you a bank Robert,
Speaker 1: they think you have some money stashed away and you're
Speaker 1: gonna skip town and all that you're a threat to community.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, now I'm looking sorry because
Speaker 1: I got the fucking broken arm still in court, But
Speaker 1: going back and forth to court, I was ready to
Speaker 1: get it over. So finally I got my sentence and
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, you know, I'm gonna be going
Speaker 1: for a while. So it was it was a headache, man.
Speaker 1: But then on that bus ride all the way to Arizona,
Speaker 1: you really started processing stuff and like you know, and
Speaker 1: then one of the dudes I was on the bus,
Speaker 1: he was handcuffed to me and he was coming back
Speaker 1: from court he had been going for a long time.
Speaker 1: Nigga told me. When I first came in, my daughter
Speaker 1: was barely walking. Now she driving up to see me.
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, I did from ninety six to
Speaker 1: two three, so about eight years something like that. And
Speaker 1: they don't give you no good time, good behavior or
Speaker 1: none of that. Whatever they gave you. And they give
Speaker 1: your sentence in months like something months. They give you
Speaker 1: to you in month, so you gotta calculate all that.
Speaker 1: Now was good about it? When you go, you get
Speaker 1: a confrontation sheet and that that tells your exact date
Speaker 1: to the door. Then you take some classes in there.
Speaker 1: But it only works if you have a drug plase case.
Speaker 1: You do adapt drug awareness program. That didn't work for
Speaker 1: me because I'm a bank robber, so they're like, nope,
Speaker 1: to get that, you gotta have a non offensive case.
Speaker 1: I think Reggie might have been able to take advantage
Speaker 1: of that that program, but I'm not sure if he
Speaker 1: did or not. But yeah, it takes some um some
Speaker 1: months or years off. I couldn't get it because I'm
Speaker 1: on a violent case, which is you know, and and
Speaker 1: it wouldn't necessarily sold the bank robbery. It was a
Speaker 1: fucking gun that really carried all the weight, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And and and once they find out
Speaker 1: you got the gun, it's just staying even discussing. So yeah,
Speaker 1: been in federal prison is you know, you know people
Speaker 1: walking around and there with a lot of time, and
Speaker 1: you know, young young cats man on my on my run,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty five years. How are you gonna do
Speaker 1: twenty five years when I haven't even been on earth
Speaker 1: that long. They're doing it. Yeah, they're doing it. Not
Speaker 1: a problem, man. But you know you walk it off.
Speaker 1: You know, I get in there, I walked it off.
Speaker 1: It's like cool. So coming home, I mean, what what
Speaker 1: life has been since you've been home? I mean, as
Speaker 1: you're back into the to the hood. If we're doing
Speaker 1: the banging, well, you know I always go by the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: I might go incognit, but I still go through there
Speaker 1: because that's that's me. You know, you you are what
Speaker 1: you are, no matter what you find yourself to be
Speaker 1: a working man. Now you can say that, you can
Speaker 1: say that, yeah, I mean, I mean, we gotta we
Speaker 1: gotta feed up family some kind of way. And however
Speaker 1: you do it is is that's the way it got
Speaker 1: to be done. See now it's so many avenue it
Speaker 1: is to do something, because, like I said, when I
Speaker 1: was doing my thing, you either you know, in high school,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be a gangster athlete or both, or you're
Speaker 1: just gonna be a square in r OTC. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I ain't doing that ship now. When you
Speaker 1: first looked up with tree Top, it was popping because
Speaker 1: it wasn't DJ Quick put his album out one. So
Speaker 1: you came around around that time. And it's crazy you
Speaker 1: mentioned that because at that time, uh, him and m
Speaker 1: C A had they little not well not their little thing,
Speaker 1: but they had their big thing going shout out to
Speaker 1: n C eight. Uh And and I was a fan
Speaker 1: of m C eight. You know what I'm saying. I
Speaker 1: bought you know, the tape, the cassette back then with
Speaker 1: concette wouldn't no CD yet, but it was it was popping.
Speaker 1: He had a second and none used to come through there.
Speaker 1: And Sharon Maalley, Yeah, you had a Donzelli, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's the first thing I've seen on the hole
Speaker 1: back in the day. But yeah, tree Top was popping
Speaker 1: back then, so you never thought maybe you should try
Speaker 1: to get into this music because there's a lot of
Speaker 1: dudes from calm Than that are making it right now
Speaker 1: and maybe selling this shem and robbing these banks is
Speaker 1: not a long term plan. Well, yes, and no, I
Speaker 1: tried to do that. When I tried, I was pretty
Speaker 1: you know all right, you know, every every nigga long
Speaker 1: hair was a rapper. Uh. But I was like, ship man,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm microwave. I need my ship right now, you know,
Speaker 1: right now. And then Compton was just so now mind you.
Speaker 1: When I got to Compton, I was embarrassed to be
Speaker 1: from Compton because when we go way out and he
Speaker 1: was like, well, right, chacters down, where are you from?
Speaker 1: And I was like, but then I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: you know, I started poking my chest and I'm from Compton,
Speaker 1: you know, oh ship and you know. But I tried
Speaker 1: to but it wouldn't rolling fast enough. So I just decided,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm gonna get this money like this. Also,
Speaker 1: death Throwers in his early years, James was over there.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you about that. So death Row Records
Speaker 1: was the hottest thing in America over the world back then. Now,
Speaker 1: they did some ship in three years that Motown dev
Speaker 1: Jam was doing twenty thirty years. So we all in
Speaker 1: the neighborhood heard of Shoog, but we never seen him.
Speaker 1: It's like big shoot, big ship. Should we heard of him,
Speaker 1: but we never seen him. So Death roll through this
Speaker 1: big fucking picnic at Loutis Park and every Piru and Compton,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, was there was probably there. Everybody
Speaker 1: was there. I mean if you roll down Rolls Crimes
Speaker 1: by Loutis Park, you just see a sea of red
Speaker 1: and Birthday and people from l A came. You know,
Speaker 1: it's performers. Of course snooping the dog Pound wouldn't there,
Speaker 1: of course not understandable. But DJ Quick perform taking a
Speaker 1: none of my homeboy Rick James, he was there, so
Speaker 1: it was that was a beautiful time. Man. Yep, I
Speaker 1: remember that we was all there. That was I want
Speaker 1: to say ninety four maybe James, thank you? It was
Speaker 1: it was big. Was that something James that Death Row
Speaker 1: did like every year or a couple of times a year,
Speaker 1: either that they we do anything that gonzalezork No, well,
Speaker 1: every time they did something it was it was either
Speaker 1: looters or in the swamped me and it was pretty
Speaker 1: much Thanksgiving type of ship that he was consistent with.
Speaker 1: But fartherest, because he built the state, had the stage,
Speaker 1: did at the park and all that, I think he
Speaker 1: only did that once. He only did that once. But
Speaker 1: fartherest thanks Giving, I think he did Christmas giving out
Speaker 1: toys one year. But Thanksgiving was consistent, the turkeys and
Speaker 1: all that. Ship but um, everything it was maybe once
Speaker 1: or toys. Now seeing that was that kind of like
Speaker 1: inspirational to say, wow, this is these are all this
Speaker 1: par rules. They got the biggest record company in America. Um,
Speaker 1: and then a rapper that's performing is from your neighborhood.
Speaker 1: It was, man, it was. It was and and and everybody,
Speaker 1: even if they say they didn't. Everybody wanted to be
Speaker 1: on death row. Everybody had the death row jackets. Everybody
Speaker 1: wanted to And I wanted to be on death row
Speaker 1: because my homeboy, Rick James was on death row so
Speaker 1: I knew him. And you know it was just like
Speaker 1: but like I said, I lose interest fast. Man. If
Speaker 1: this ain't working out, Okay, I'm about to do a
Speaker 1: spin move. I'm going over here. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: was there at the park that day, you you pretty
Speaker 1: much seen everybody and met and knew I'm talking about
Speaker 1: bring out legends. You had real cash up in there,
Speaker 1: and and just to see Rose Clan swamp like that,
Speaker 1: and to have a function where it was nothing but
Speaker 1: bluss and everybody was getting alone at that time, and
Speaker 1: it felt safe if if you try to get up
Speaker 1: the street, man, damn, this where I want to be from.
Speaker 1: And this is the this is the pre two pocket.
Speaker 1: A lot of people think death Row didn't blow up
Speaker 1: until podcast yea, death Row was already established before Park
Speaker 1: ever signed to death Row just took thatth row to
Speaker 1: a different level, definitely, And but but Snoop then was
Speaker 1: there at the time, and Dre took death Row Scotty,
Speaker 1: he took that roke when when if it wasn't for Dre,
Speaker 1: it probably went It took longer, but Dred definitely got
Speaker 1: his get his problems for that. But when that happened,
Speaker 1: you know those guys didn't come function and Compton, you
Speaker 1: know they was doing the um Gin and juice video
Speaker 1: supposed to do it at my house at that time.
Speaker 1: So you got these cats pulling up in Ferrari's and
Speaker 1: ship in the hood and everybody coming outside and taking
Speaker 1: pictures and and all this ship and then she'll change
Speaker 1: the plans that you do something else. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. This probably was the first time I ever
Speaker 1: cleaned my fucking yard. The liquor and the ka for
Speaker 1: the video with just bottles and shipped all over the
Speaker 1: place from drinking all that week. And then we didn't
Speaker 1: do it. But a lot of people really wanted to
Speaker 1: be a part of that. A lot of people and
Speaker 1: and you had so many at that time, you had
Speaker 1: so many bloods knew that they was gonna get in
Speaker 1: because it was a blood dude that was That's a
Speaker 1: good point because for me, you know, pre Death Row,
Speaker 1: everybody on the West Coast was either a crip or
Speaker 1: background from Crypt. It wouldn't really know bloods wrapping. Then
Speaker 1: Quick came and when he came, he kind of snuck in.
Speaker 1: Not you know, it's like, oh, ship this nigger. He
Speaker 1: pushing the line. Quick was doing it, sugar, because and
Speaker 1: see he is the first nicket I was banging on wax.
Speaker 1: He was he was banging on CDs. Yeah, he when
Speaker 1: he said he was the first nicket banging on wax,
Speaker 1: he is not lying. Well, he's the first one to
Speaker 1: say a gang name on a record before anybody else,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't necessarily that he was banging because he kind
Speaker 1: of it was sort of like a subliminal was swinging
Speaker 1: from the tree tops right, and then he said, what's
Speaker 1: her name in my hood? Ha ha ha ha. Figure
Speaker 1: that ship out food, because if you look at the
Speaker 1: first tape right at the bottom, they got like T
Speaker 1: T P. But it is standing for like some some production.
Speaker 1: But I think he was kind of subtle with it.
Speaker 1: He wasn't really like nobody coming out with him that
Speaker 1: Nigga had it rough going of these different states and
Speaker 1: shows all crips, you know what I'm saying, Because now
Speaker 1: when you go to concerts, crips and bloods there they
Speaker 1: want to see each other's like a high school you
Speaker 1: and everybody's good. But back then Nikker's going to concerts
Speaker 1: to jack and beat up motherfucker. He had it rough.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it wasn't And then mctin came, you know,
Speaker 1: and then when he hooked up with Dove C it
Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh okay, so that kind of
Speaker 1: missed for me. That kind of missed everybody together. Then
Speaker 1: the Dog Pound in mctin and then what Sugar was
Speaker 1: doing that was unheard of. Yeah, that's like being in
Speaker 1: MC getting you know, this motorcycle club and this motorcycle
Speaker 1: club to function at the same place when nothing happened.
Speaker 1: Sure he had all christ and then he had the
Speaker 1: bloods protecting those guys. They well beings. So that was
Speaker 1: our job, is to make sure nobody bothered them, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And not to take nothing away
Speaker 1: from some of those casts, because some of those cats
Speaker 1: was with the business. They was ready to fight and
Speaker 1: do whatever with the homies, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But if you look at it, I mean what other
Speaker 1: label was doing it like that and then was able
Speaker 1: to control both sides and have them work together, excuse me,
Speaker 1: and working together like that because at that time, come on, man,
Speaker 1: from what we're fighting. Because once you leave that row
Speaker 1: and walk out of that door, you gotta come to
Speaker 1: the hood and you gotta dress everything that's going on
Speaker 1: in the Yeah, so you gotta turn it on and
Speaker 1: turn it off every time you go and and and
Speaker 1: just just deal with what she was doing. Now, how
Speaker 1: was the man tally of that? You're thinking, Okay, it's
Speaker 1: a bigger picture because I know the older cats. Motherfucker's
Speaker 1: knew each other from the pen why and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: so you kind of had a not a relationship, but
Speaker 1: a respect, like, oh, y'all was locked up with respect.
Speaker 1: Was here we are with nothing, and here we are
Speaker 1: got this dude saying I'm gonna make y'all straight. Y'all
Speaker 1: don't rob nothing, don't do nothing to come with me.
Speaker 1: I wish I don't know. They don't. I wouldn't wish
Speaker 1: they don't know about but we're doing it. But then
Speaker 1: here you are, Okay, sugar game putting the bloods on it.
Speaker 1: It was cats coming to shoe that was was wrapping
Speaker 1: in my ass on. I'm teking my be dogs. And
Speaker 1: he wouldn't put he wouldn't promote like he would promote.
Speaker 1: Snoop him. That's that's bizarre, but it was smart because
Speaker 1: if I if I mixed my business with the homies
Speaker 1: and get him out there like that, them nigg is
Speaker 1: gonna get it. And if they blow up, they're gonna
Speaker 1: take the homies from me. I'm gonna they're gonna go
Speaker 1: and roll because they really with it like that. She'll
Speaker 1: never did the blood he worked with the crypts because
Speaker 1: y'all going to do whatever get your money and going
Speaker 1: to do whatever. I ain't worried about y'all going, But
Speaker 1: don't let two bucks say. Man, I want you you
Speaker 1: and you and I started my lebel y'all coming. Now
Speaker 1: we can shut some ship down. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: My beat like the Homeboy rest in peace. B Brains.
Speaker 1: He was on the move until you know, you know
Speaker 1: he's untimely death. And then you know a lot of
Speaker 1: dudes out of the Denver Lanes was wrapping. It was
Speaker 1: a lot. You could have made a lot of money
Speaker 1: off the home And then he didn't push TB as
Speaker 1: hard as he should have pushed. After when TV came,
Speaker 1: he gave him to Mountry and Bunty was doing this thing,
Speaker 1: but then she wouldn't wouldn't do what he was supposed
Speaker 1: to do. They were always on soundtracks of movies but
Speaker 1: never put out an album. And and that murder was
Speaker 1: the case that was shoot not letting. Yeah, they was
Speaker 1: on something on two songs. I think every song they
Speaker 1: did was on a on a soundtrack for a moment.
Speaker 1: And the relatives and the relatives they never they never
Speaker 1: got out and was able to do their own thing.
Speaker 1: And that's because if these dudes make it, then they
Speaker 1: might go with them and see, it's funny you should
Speaker 1: bring that up because what people don't know and the
Speaker 1: firs you run into a lot of people. Who was somebody?
Speaker 1: So I was in jail with sis uncle bone George Knight.
Speaker 1: That ain't that George Knight? Yeah, the big one he was.
Speaker 1: He was in my cubicle. So I'm in Safford. No,
Speaker 1: we said, no, that's in Arizona. Safford, Arizona. It's a
Speaker 1: it's a small it's about seventy five maybe a hundred people,
Speaker 1: so everybody's doing their bid. Guess who hit the yard?
Speaker 1: Key f d yep. I was in Federal prinsonal KEVD
Speaker 1: for about two years knowing we sat there and eight
Speaker 1: together watch basketball games. No, never never know him before,
Speaker 1: but you know, like I said, when you come in
Speaker 1: there or he from Compton, so the Compton car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even if we from different sides, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a low. You ain't on that bullshit. We too
Speaker 1: far with from home to be at each other throw
Speaker 1: things anywhere. So you know he was in there, but
Speaker 1: he wouldn't the same way he is now, just kind
Speaker 1: of zing. That's how he was, he wouldn't. And that's
Speaker 1: the first thing I've seen with a platinum chain, the
Speaker 1: little platinum that's when platinum was popping about. I think
Speaker 1: it's like two thousand one or two, and he had
Speaker 1: a little platinum cross. It's got to be a cross.
Speaker 1: But we knew, you know, niggas from Compton, we knew
Speaker 1: about the Tupac situation. But nobody got at him about that.
Speaker 1: We just kind of like, you know, but he wouldn't,
Speaker 1: you know, he wouldn't allow my but he was, you know,
Speaker 1: we know each other. Said back watch basketball games, and
Speaker 1: the nigger gave me some advice to it. Was like
Speaker 1: when you when you start making money, you keep your
Speaker 1: hand tight, but tight enough so none we'll get out,
Speaker 1: but not tight enough to know them will get in.
Speaker 1: That was all. That's pretty cool, man. So yeah, keep
Speaker 1: you d man. Yeah. So when all this started happening,
Speaker 1: when he started being on the scene, now like damn,
Speaker 1: you know all this, I mean, you know, then I
Speaker 1: find out he got cancer, I was like, okay, you know,
Speaker 1: but yeah he was Yeah what I heard I heard.
Speaker 1: I think he might be in remission or he's recovering.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know the details. But if you,
Speaker 1: if you talk to him like I did, he's a
Speaker 1: smart dude. Man, keep a few times, you know. Now,
Speaker 1: this is before he made that statement recorded by the
Speaker 1: police when they were investigating um they wanted, they were
Speaker 1: investigating biggie. But then he ended up spilling the whole
Speaker 1: beings on how they killed pot. Yeah. That that that
Speaker 1: was way before that. This one like in two thousand
Speaker 1: one or two thousand two, and he was in the
Speaker 1: pining together. Okay, but he got out and it wasn't
Speaker 1: too long after him getting out. When when did you
Speaker 1: get released from there? That's a good question. I think
Speaker 1: he left. I think I left before him. I think
Speaker 1: I did. But if he did leave before me, he
Speaker 1: went to camp. I think he went to Nellis. If
Speaker 1: I'm not mistaken, I think he went to Nellis. That's
Speaker 1: a camp in Vegas where you could just leave and
Speaker 1: come back on your workflow and all that stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he was there, man, he was there, And like I said,
Speaker 1: I don't got nothing that'd say about to do because
Speaker 1: me and it made a good you know, like a
Speaker 1: respect thing. So how many Compton people were there in Arizona?
Speaker 1: It was a lot of Compton people there. Man, it
Speaker 1: didn't matter. Blood y'all hanging together. You know we wouldn't
Speaker 1: you know, buddy buddy taking pictures. But we all it's
Speaker 1: not a big prison, so you know each other. You
Speaker 1: know we're from comm okay, and then we kick around
Speaker 1: stories I might know somebody you know that, Oh really
Speaker 1: she had the baby fas Okay, that's my song, so
Speaker 1: you know like that. But it wasn't never on no game,
Speaker 1: bang and ship. Everything that happened, uh physical there was
Speaker 1: against the others or against somebody who wasn't from California.
Speaker 1: And that's the same thing we got on the streets though,
Speaker 1: but being in jail that takes it to a different level.
Speaker 1: Being on the streets, we're killing each other and we
Speaker 1: got say police killing us too, So it's like a
Speaker 1: double jeopardy thing. You in prison, you're fighting each other,
Speaker 1: but then you got the as wps on your ass,
Speaker 1: or you got the Mesican mafia on your ass, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So we put ourselves in a
Speaker 1: position where we gotta constantly keep looking because we don't
Speaker 1: know if you're black, white, are Mesican coming to give me?
Speaker 1: Some people will say they'll look at that and said,
Speaker 1: so what's the as a game banging in the first place,
Speaker 1: Because when you get to that prison yard, all y'all
Speaker 1: are united regardless, right, well you have you have to
Speaker 1: be because in prison, no matter if you like it
Speaker 1: or not, you're gonna be segregated because either you don't
Speaker 1: have crips, you had the Bloods, you had the Muslims.
Speaker 1: Then you're gonna have just the people who just straggling around,
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have the white boys doing anything,
Speaker 1: the Essays doing anything. It's just you can't just be
Speaker 1: there like I'm not with nobody got in somewhere, and
Speaker 1: some people find the Lord. They get their little church
Speaker 1: group going, you know what I'm saying. But me, like
Speaker 1: I said, coming from off the street, are already you know, okay,
Speaker 1: you know, and then you see people, oh ship, then
Speaker 1: I ain't see if this is where you're bad? Yeah? Man,
Speaker 1: fuck what you're doing it? Man now? And I'll tell you.
Speaker 1: So then you know, you get your mojo going, you
Speaker 1: start jelling, and then you just you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: how it is. So how much time had passed between
Speaker 1: the first bank robbery that you did that we just
Speaker 1: heard about and then you decided to do a second one. Uh,
Speaker 1: I sat on the money. Then I sucked that off. Shit. Man,
Speaker 1: it was probably about three weeks. Remember mind you, I
Speaker 1: ain't never had you know, full racks thirty five hunted.
Speaker 1: All of hustling I ever did didn't amount to that.
Speaker 1: So that's when I bought the homeboy money Carlo, and
Speaker 1: you know, going back and forth to the swap meet,
Speaker 1: you know, just sucking mind off, you know, because I'm
Speaker 1: already knowing this is fast, so I can just go
Speaker 1: hit another leag And at any point did you think
Speaker 1: this is this is not gonna work? Um, because then
Speaker 1: you did about two or three more after that. I'm
Speaker 1: assuming you didn't talk about those in detail, but I'm
Speaker 1: assuming those went off smooth. Yeah. The second one, the
Speaker 1: stakes got higher, the money was better, and I was
Speaker 1: getting I thought I was getting good because the first
Speaker 1: one I jumped over the table. It was like, you know,
Speaker 1: me the money. The second one I got on the
Speaker 1: table stood up so like a quarterback. I could see
Speaker 1: everything that's going on over the defense. So I was
Speaker 1: like okay. And then the third one, it was just
Speaker 1: it was just coming natural, you know, it just got
Speaker 1: better and better, so even out. Yet it was I
Speaker 1: went to the movies to see it and just like Homeboy,
Speaker 1: and um, what's the movie? We were talking about Payton
Speaker 1: food when he eating popcorn watching uh scar face smiling,
Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was doing. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I see everybody getting their money, you know. But it
Speaker 1: was it was a drill in the rush. It was
Speaker 1: fun and it was just some gamester ship man, man,
Speaker 1: you know, it was just good. You never walked into
Speaker 1: bank and just thought, man, I can get killed. No, no,
Speaker 1: that never crossed my mind. Never thought about a shootout
Speaker 1: or if the security guar I was gonna have a
Speaker 1: gun or none of that. I never thought about none
Speaker 1: of that because my adrenaline. All I'm thinking about was
Speaker 1: that motherfucking money. And and it's funny because I was
Speaker 1: I felt I was so good, nigga. I would go
Speaker 1: put my car in the shop knowing I'm gonna pay
Speaker 1: for that ship. I'm getting ready to rob a bank.
Speaker 1: I would do things like that, set myself up because
Speaker 1: I'm knowing I'm going to rob a bank. So if
Speaker 1: I got thirty five four thousand the first time, ship,
Speaker 1: thinking if I keep doing this, I'm gonna get more
Speaker 1: and more and more. So I was just that confident.
Speaker 1: And the sign was there even before that came. When
Speaker 1: me and my relative was in the driveway and we
Speaker 1: had his his female friend house. We're sitting out there
Speaker 1: chomping it up, talking to police super poop, Hey, what
Speaker 1: are you guys doing? All were just hanging out, and
Speaker 1: it was okay, mind if I searching, all go ahead.
Speaker 1: So he pulled out a big ass load of money
Speaker 1: I had and it had the red dye on it,
Speaker 1: and he was like, so, where'd you come up with this?
Speaker 1: I sold my car so I can get something else,
Speaker 1: and he gave it back to me. But that still
Speaker 1: didn't register because I'm still it's just so much ship
Speaker 1: that was happening. And then I had a little stash
Speaker 1: spot that I kept like under the couch, and my
Speaker 1: mom paid me one day and she said, you better
Speaker 1: get home. Your brother then found your money, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, fucking my little brother too too, and
Speaker 1: he found my little and it's just, you know, it
Speaker 1: was just so much ship. But I was just so
Speaker 1: fast with it. I just knew what I was going
Speaker 1: to do. Your first bank lick, that was your share
Speaker 1: of a bigger amount of money that was that was taken.
Speaker 1: What's considered like a good successful amount of money on
Speaker 1: a bank robbery, Well, it depends on the bigger crew
Speaker 1: you have. So we only had three people, uh, two
Speaker 1: of us inside and the old man driver. Now what
Speaker 1: I didn't get was the homebole who put me on
Speaker 1: the lick. The nigger would orchestra ship go find the
Speaker 1: banks to hit, but he wouldn't go in them. So
Speaker 1: now I'm getting kind of hips. So about the third
Speaker 1: bank robbery, I saw asking him, so, how do you
Speaker 1: know what banks to hit? You just find one or
Speaker 1: how do you do it? He said, he goes scope
Speaker 1: it out, you know, prior and sending one of his
Speaker 1: brawls in there, and she come back and detail him.
Speaker 1: So I went off on my own and did the
Speaker 1: same thing. I was like, oh, okay, this is how
Speaker 1: we're doing it. So that's how that happened. But to
Speaker 1: answer your question, so you got a little crew, so say,
Speaker 1: you know, between three people were talking about the nineties. Now,
Speaker 1: sixty thousand is pretty good set up with three people.
Speaker 1: So the most I ever got out of a lick
Speaker 1: was about forty But at nineteen yea, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: And I didn't have no expenses. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: have a drinking problem. I didn't smoke weed, I didn't party.
Speaker 1: All I did was go back and forth to the
Speaker 1: swath meeting by days. That's all the funk I did.
Speaker 1: Put music, and every car had that. You weren't flipping
Speaker 1: the money back into the water game, and so tired
Speaker 1: from a ya. And then it's finally because the second league,
Speaker 1: I had the big face hundreds. It wasn't no fifties,
Speaker 1: it wasn't no twenties, it was the big faces. So
Speaker 1: motherfucker's thought that was fake. So I can say I
Speaker 1: probably was one of the first people who had the
Speaker 1: big face. I had to go to the Avalon swapped me,
Speaker 1: get off the motherfucker's and nobody wouldn't sunk with me.
Speaker 1: You couldn't spend the money, but but they took it
Speaker 1: because I had. You know, um, the Avalon swapped me
Speaker 1: for people who don't know that's a blood swap me.
Speaker 1: So all the bloods go there and you just build
Speaker 1: a relationship with people, put your music in, you go
Speaker 1: buy T shirts there and you know, you have a picnic.
Speaker 1: They put your little hood ship on the back of
Speaker 1: your sweater, so I knew the dude, They okay, cool,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, you know. So that was how I
Speaker 1: got off the hundred dollar bills. But then they became
Speaker 1: more popular. People knew what they were. Then. Have you
Speaker 1: ever heard of that LPD officer named David Mack He
Speaker 1: goes back to the death Row days that actually walked
Speaker 1: into the Bank of America on Jefferson and McClintock, and
Speaker 1: he walked out with seven hundred thousands in a duffel bag.
Speaker 1: Do that he had a girl on the inside, and
Speaker 1: he was a police officer. He ended up doing twelve years,
Speaker 1: he got sentence, and they never found the seven hundred racks.
Speaker 1: And see that's why I think even though I didn't
Speaker 1: get no money from the last one, but they pretty
Speaker 1: much knew, okay, this ain't his first time robbing the bank.
Speaker 1: He probably got a staff somewhere. That's why they didn't
Speaker 1: give me bail. And lucky for me, no old bank
Speaker 1: robberies ever came up because they can try to pin
Speaker 1: that on it, so you wouldn't convicted of just that one.
Speaker 1: I was kind of nervous about that if those would
Speaker 1: have ever come back up, because they weren't like, oh
Speaker 1: that was last year, Holly. You know they can't. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm forty three, man, I was nineteen when I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, how't gonna you got kids? Nope? No kids,
Speaker 1: No kids, man, Nope. And I can't have not anything.
Speaker 1: You don't want them or I can't. I would and
Speaker 1: got myself fixed because you didn't want no kids? Well
Speaker 1: you know, yes and no. But I see so many
Speaker 1: situations that's funked up, and I like, I can't go
Speaker 1: through that because that child support ship is a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't have to pay a child support if you
Speaker 1: did the And I can't even say that because I
Speaker 1: got I got baby mama's and and I didn't think
Speaker 1: about living with one of them until my first one.
Speaker 1: When I got out of prison. I was with her.
Speaker 1: But my thing with her is live your life while
Speaker 1: I'm in here, you know what I'm saying. But when
Speaker 1: I get out of here, get rid of him. You
Speaker 1: see that was that wasp that happened to me? You
Speaker 1: come home? Hey, what's that a way here from you?
Speaker 1: He was getting rid of this my but I got
Speaker 1: shogged now, so it's had to we you do so
Speaker 1: I'm doing my thing. I'm riding around and moments and
Speaker 1: ship phones. I got the phone you carry it. I
Speaker 1: went plug in. So I'm doing my thing, so I
Speaker 1: ain't trimping off my baby. Mama's so you didn't want
Speaker 1: her back anymore after you came home from prison. No, no,
Speaker 1: we we're still friends today. We went through our little
Speaker 1: What's calling? But my son is thirty six, and I
Speaker 1: mean we're cool now. But we went through it. But
Speaker 1: do your thing while I'm in here. You got enough
Speaker 1: time to do it. You want to suck around, I
Speaker 1: can't stop you. And I ain't gonna be dreaming about
Speaker 1: you sucking another nigg so and I ain't gonna be
Speaker 1: tanning my ship thinking about you. But it must be
Speaker 1: a little stressful though, Like you in prison, you're you're
Speaker 1: confined and you're like, damn, who's Who's Who's messing with
Speaker 1: my woman? Right now? You know what? It really it
Speaker 1: wasn't for me. I mean, you had those moments. But
Speaker 1: every prison I went to, she was there. She regardless
Speaker 1: of she had this dude, she was at every prison.
Speaker 1: I kept a package. You know what I'm saying. Through
Speaker 1: heard my mom's and my sisters I was always good,
Speaker 1: So every prison I went to, she was there, so
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. But when I came home, you didn't
Speaker 1: do what I said, so it was trying to bounce.
Speaker 1: I got up. I bounced, and I'm on the motherfucker
Speaker 1: that playing North Carolina with ship with me. I went
Speaker 1: in with nobody. So I didn't have a main chick
Speaker 1: because you was kind of young. I was really young.
Speaker 1: I was when you was a teenager when you got
Speaker 1: so I wasn't, so I didn't I didn't have oh man,
Speaker 1: my my, my girl and my this. I was like,
Speaker 1: well ship man, you know. And then at that time
Speaker 1: you run into cats who've been in there fifteen twenty years,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna lace you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: They tell you, like I said, when you get in there,
Speaker 1: all that love and your girlfriend and your car and
Speaker 1: all that you leave at in R and D, you're
Speaker 1: starting a whole new program, your program. Man, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen it all on the phone crying, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. They they just just and you know, something
Speaker 1: wrong because when the motherfucker body languages on the phone
Speaker 1: and they hunched over like man, you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: still trying to keep the player mode, like, you know,
Speaker 1: I get some more when I get out, so you
Speaker 1: don't think about having a son or teaching your son. No,
Speaker 1: I got a bunch of nephews. I got his sons
Speaker 1: and my my sister, and so it's you know, I
Speaker 1: don't have none of my own. But it's cool, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they you know I'm like uncle daddy. If that makes yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm still too. So you know it makes you you know, going, oh,
Speaker 1: I got my g d in there, so yeah, I
Speaker 1: got I did something. I picked up some weight walls
Speaker 1: in there because I was like a buck fifty man, nigga,
Speaker 1: look well you look like you got a little side
Speaker 1: of the shirt. I see. That's the thing. I didn't
Speaker 1: hit no iron. I wasn't athlete and none of that
Speaker 1: ship in high school and I went to prison. Now
Speaker 1: I got on the iron, start hooping because you're there.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's fresh exactly. I got good at basketball,
Speaker 1: and man, it was like ship, I'm pretty good. Then
Speaker 1: you start thinking like fuck, I should have been doing
Speaker 1: this ship man. Then you know they had a band room.
Speaker 1: I learned how to play the drums in there. It
Speaker 1: was it was all kind of ship. Yeah, situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to most of us don't. Yep. I've got
Speaker 1: on the iron start lifting weights and just you know,
Speaker 1: and your skills not what they offer you, but what
Speaker 1: you see around your people. Skills get better. You know
Speaker 1: when the motherfucked bullshit because Nigel tell you. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I was so on so on the street. Well come
Speaker 1: here and never go to the store or motherfucker keep
Speaker 1: Hey man, you gotta sup all right, hey man, you
Speaker 1: gotta sauce things like hold that. That's what you don't do. Now.
Speaker 1: You got to break this clown neck because you know,
Speaker 1: you learn what not to do. You don't gamble unless
Speaker 1: you can cover your debt exactly because gamble is a
Speaker 1: no no. Actually made you a better person. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you made some real It's two things that I know
Speaker 1: I could have learned in there because I had uh
Speaker 1: dudes trying to They knew everybody know when everybody going home.
Speaker 1: So it was dudes like, man, he gets out. Man,
Speaker 1: you know you can hideight this person. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: they try to put you to work because they know
Speaker 1: you're a good dude. You you if I'm spending three
Speaker 1: years with you, I see you. Every fucking day. We
Speaker 1: eat child together, we go to the red room, we
Speaker 1: watched the games every day. We know each other. See,
Speaker 1: my folks don't know me like that no more, because
Speaker 1: I didn't evolve. You talked to me on the phone.
Speaker 1: You may see me once a year and there, but
Speaker 1: you don't really know me no more. Either. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come out even more fucked up than I was, more
Speaker 1: of a rider, or I'm gonna just man, he changed,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I've seen it before.
Speaker 1: Motherfucker's walk with that bible. When you get out, they're
Speaker 1: sending pictures with strippers and all, and then next thing
Speaker 1: you know, motherfucker fall out. This guy, What then are
Speaker 1: you doing back here? Man? Later and I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: come yeah, that's that recentivism. Great boy. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: knew I ain't man, I ain't got in troubles. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: I can't be doing this. Ship Man. I had long hair,
Speaker 1: cut my hair off and all kind of ship. Man
Speaker 1: was like, now I can't be doing So you got
Speaker 1: out and said to yourself, Man, there's no way I'm
Speaker 1: going back to this place. No. I couldn't do that
Speaker 1: no more. Man, that was. It was slow starting off,
Speaker 1: then it's speed up, and then your last few months
Speaker 1: you'd be like funk man, harry up and get this
Speaker 1: ship over it. But I knew once I was there,
Speaker 1: you know, talking to different people, and they say, nigger,
Speaker 1: it's gonna go by fast, so you better get on it.
Speaker 1: Whatever you're playing on doing, you better start doing it.
Speaker 1: And sure ship that motherfucker went by fast. And then
Speaker 1: they come when they do this, roll it up, I'm
Speaker 1: going I'm already packed. But yeah, man, so in there
Speaker 1: you just you learn, you learn people skills. We have
Speaker 1: to your co defendants in that case, one went to
Speaker 1: Leavenworth because this nigger had uh he had priors from
Speaker 1: the eighties, so he was that's the maximum security. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: lead Worth h Uh, Indiana Terror hut. That's where mother's
Speaker 1: got all day sixty seventy years. Yeah. I was in
Speaker 1: there with the what the dude to real cool white
Speaker 1: dude owned U, the Los Angeles Kings, Bruce mcnal. I
Speaker 1: was in there when I'm real cool dude. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wasn't there with with a few catch man. I say,
Speaker 1: kep d was real cool. You got dudes and there
Speaker 1: with money man so you know back then when I went,
Speaker 1: it wasn't shipp there you get them fun. I don't
Speaker 1: even trip. It was motherfucker's in there, fucking guards and
Speaker 1: all kind of ship man. But you don't, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't be saying and let them, you know, do
Speaker 1: the ship. Well, man, I want to thank you Junior
Speaker 1: for coming on and telling than me. Man, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: We definitely appreciate it. I'm just glad and I just
Speaker 1: want other people to see the life you live and
Speaker 1: how we all live. We all been there just and
Speaker 1: then your story bank robbing at nineteen. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we get into some ship and then you survived it. So, man,
Speaker 1: I appreciate and I hope everybody that listen pretty much
Speaker 1: understanding I'm not going to go rober band. Oh no,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, most of it, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm speaking for myself. Was for women, I'm keeping it one.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know when I don't want to ball
Speaker 1: show off for you, but see you was a pretty guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But the thing is most you know, most men, you're
Speaker 1: not supposed to be jealous of another man, even if
Speaker 1: he got the bitches him exactly find out what the
Speaker 1: that's what he's doing. Okay, if you have to change
Speaker 1: the way you dress, change the way you look, so
Speaker 1: you figured it out. I figured it out fast. So I,
Speaker 1: like I said, I wouldn't athlete, I wouldn't in and
Speaker 1: none of that. I wanted the bitches. So I couldn't
Speaker 1: get no bitches walking and I couldn't be walking. And
Speaker 1: I'm from Tree Top, Paru. That ain't gonna happen. So
Speaker 1: the night, I say, for me nine five percent was
Speaker 1: doing it for the girls. Because when you pull up
Speaker 1: back then, they had words called car hop and you
Speaker 1: just I mean, Daton's was everything. You didn't even day
Speaker 1: everything back then. So you go from chrome to gold,
Speaker 1: eight to a hundred spokes and that's you know, that's
Speaker 1: why I did it, man. But now you know, when
Speaker 1: I talked to my nephews and stuff like that, and
Speaker 1: they got it. I mean, the youngswers. Now they got
Speaker 1: the game on lock. They ain't gone wrong as long
Speaker 1: as you can ants and you got you know, skinny
Speaker 1: jeans on and I ain't doing none of that. But
Speaker 1: you know it's just they do. They got their own
Speaker 1: mojor they're doing Because when I started wearing khakis, and
Speaker 1: people's name. Ain't dressing like that? Where do these flecks?
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not wearing that. You can't. I think
Speaker 1: it's important to emphasize in your story is that you
Speaker 1: stayed out of prison. You got out and you ain't
Speaker 1: been back. Just sitting here chatting with you. It don't
Speaker 1: look like you're ever going back. No, man, you can't
Speaker 1: do that. I really picked ship out of a dolt
Speaker 1: that for two PI before I go back to prison. Fun. No,
Speaker 1: all right, well, let's wrap up another episode of The
Speaker 1: Gangster Chronicles. Um, we Missred. We can't wait for him
Speaker 1: to come back, and hopefully we'll have him in some
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