Speaker 1: The NBA season is finally here. Afterroid very long wait,
Speaker 1: we can finally bass in the glory of the new
Speaker 1: NBA season. And now that the new season is upon us,
Speaker 1: we reached out to some of our former guests for
Speaker 1: some of their wilder predictions, and we'll be discussing all
Speaker 1: of those and getting some more from today's guest, the
Speaker 1: volume podcaster Dragonfli Jones. I got a Dragonflijo Jones. What's up?
Speaker 1: Fella's going to be back? Yeah, But before we get
Speaker 1: to that, Dragonfly Jones, gotta let the people know. I'm
Speaker 1: Miles Great and I'm Chad Hope Brian and this is
Speaker 1: Miles and Jack Got Madnest Team seas Boom, Dragonfly Jones, Welcome,
Speaker 1: Welcome the co host of Jenkins and Jones for the
Speaker 1: volume on I Heart. Welcome back to the show man.
Speaker 1: How you been appreciate you, I've been good man. How's
Speaker 1: everything going with y'all. It's the most wonderful time of
Speaker 1: the year right now, Yes, it is, it's the most
Speaker 1: It's real. The NBA season is real and it's glorious.
Speaker 1: So as we speak, the the first game is like
Speaker 1: moments away from tipping off. So we don't quite know
Speaker 1: what happened, but I feel comfortable in saying that the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Lakers will ruin the ring ceremony this evening
Speaker 1: uh and probably beat the Golden State Wars by at
Speaker 1: least fifty points. And episodes about making bold predictions that
Speaker 1: are gonna make us look stupid. I believe mine was
Speaker 1: fact based and we we will revisit that in the
Speaker 1: next episode, right or wrong. But my energy right now
Speaker 1: is a Laker fan. Oh man, couldn't be higher lower, higher,
Speaker 1: high or higher higher? Yes, you're you're actually enthusiastic about
Speaker 1: this season. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, Man of
Speaker 1: the Year. That's my that's my bold prediction. Who Russ
Speaker 1: for sixth Man of the Year? Oh my goods were takes.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Austin Reeves, he's most improved. We already know,
Speaker 1: We're already seen in it. Okay, I've got it all.
Speaker 1: Some people, including people in my family, say, Miles, please
Speaker 1: come back to Earth, but I'm telling them this is
Speaker 1: all I got, Mom and Dad, so please let me
Speaker 1: have these predictions ground control, two miles of gray. I look,
Speaker 1: I think I was talking about this with Jabar, who's
Speaker 1: also a Laker fan. You have to start off this season.
Speaker 1: You can't go into the darkness right away. You gotta
Speaker 1: have a glimmer of hope in your eye. I feel
Speaker 1: like every fan does. So I'm I'm I'm leaning into that,
Speaker 1: and I might just lean into that all the way
Speaker 1: to the point that I've I'm completely you know, untethered
Speaker 1: frum reality. Yeah, I mean, I think you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a Bronze fan, so of course you know I'm rooting
Speaker 1: for bron You know I'm bron to getting number five.
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm I'm kind of approaching this season,
Speaker 1: you know, some apprehension because you know, of course Anthony
Speaker 1: Davis no guarantees with that guy. Yeah, so I mean,
Speaker 1: we don't know how how Russ is gonna fit. I mean,
Speaker 1: Pat Bath sat himself on his own podcast for us
Speaker 1: Ain't coming off the bench, you know, as a Laker.
Speaker 1: He said that, So I don't know, man. Yeah, look,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate your take because I would think I
Speaker 1: would call that more of a grounded and analysis based take,
Speaker 1: which we need more of that. But h yeah, see
Speaker 1: that kind of gets in my own dreams and visions
Speaker 1: of a wonderful future. So I will stay over here
Speaker 1: for the moment. But yeah, Jack, how are you feeling
Speaker 1: because you got you got the Celtics tonight. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I'm a Sixers fan. Uh, the Sixers are playing the Celtics.
Speaker 1: I think the Celtics have been one of the most
Speaker 1: slept on teams during the offseason. They are not necessarily
Speaker 1: slept on, but like, I think people are underrating how
Speaker 1: good they're going to be, and the Sixers are the
Speaker 1: sexy pick, the fun pick to be like, well, we
Speaker 1: haven't seen it, so that means we're going to see it.
Speaker 1: I think I even heard somebody say that, like James
Speaker 1: Harden is due for a like great playoff performance. And
Speaker 1: as you know, my my type of fandom is like
Speaker 1: the pessimist and then never be never be disappointed, never
Speaker 1: be heard again. Um I I don't necessarily think that
Speaker 1: a player's entire career, like showing one thing means they're
Speaker 1: due to show a completely different thing. Um, so we
Speaker 1: can we can dream. I have a glimmer of hope.
Speaker 1: You know max he always I go to sleep with
Speaker 1: just visions of Maxie dancing in my head. Um, but
Speaker 1: we'll we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, we will go back
Speaker 1: to what you said about the Celtics, man Um, I
Speaker 1: think that that Malcolm Brocken pickup is a pickup that
Speaker 1: no one really cares because, because you know Brockton, he's
Speaker 1: kind of just, you know, he's like a plain turkey sandwich,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like, here's no flash
Speaker 1: to him, but he's super effective. He's probably the he's
Speaker 1: probably the most random member of the club. But you
Speaker 1: know that's that was a great pickup for the Celtics here.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be do phenomenal there. Okay, so
Speaker 1: we'll put put a pin in that prediction Dragonfly. But
Speaker 1: let's go to our first prediction that we have from
Speaker 1: past guests, Josh Eberley from Spotify Live and Sporting News.
Speaker 1: Let's listen in for his bold prediction for this upcoming
Speaker 1: season that has just begun all this one second. Honest one,
Speaker 1: I think Trey Young gets his first m v P
Speaker 1: this year and then it launches a whole like incredible
Speaker 1: dialogue about how he's actually better than Luca, and then
Speaker 1: Atlanta won that trade. But then like we just flipping
Speaker 1: in when Luca wins the MVP the next year. So yeah,
Speaker 1: Tray Young m v P. Okay, you love it. I
Speaker 1: would love to see it. You heard it here? Okay,
Speaker 1: And we're back to being just hours from the start
Speaker 1: of the NBA season, and that seems yeah, I I
Speaker 1: have not heard that is not a pick that like
Speaker 1: picked up steam as we got closer and closer to
Speaker 1: the NBA season. I haven't heard anybody, but this was
Speaker 1: as that's bold. I mean, I've got the Hawks as
Speaker 1: being like a brink playoff team, like perhaps a playing team.
Speaker 1: So yeah, tramp wasn't even on my radar, and I
Speaker 1: loved try. Yeah, what do you think? What? What? What
Speaker 1: do they have to do for that to really all
Speaker 1: come together? Has to be like the perfect fit next
Speaker 1: to him without stealing his shine too right for him, right,
Speaker 1: like the way Trey seemed to be at his best
Speaker 1: when he was just very ball dominant, and like the
Speaker 1: number of plays they ran for Trey dwarfed any other
Speaker 1: point guard. I think, like the pick and rolls was
Speaker 1: just like at another level than most people, I guess,
Speaker 1: with the possible exception of Luca, So like they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to be showing something else, But I don't know,
Speaker 1: I could. Trey Young definitely has the ability to do
Speaker 1: things that we've never seen people do before, and you know,
Speaker 1: be like that next level player who's like putting up
Speaker 1: kind of mind boggling stats. So I I just maybe
Speaker 1: I don't have the imagination to understand how a Jonta
Speaker 1: Trey backcourt turns into a Tray Young m v P Award,
Speaker 1: But I would love to see it because it would
Speaker 1: definitely be something that unlike anything I've seen before. Right,
Speaker 1: I noticed there too, he I think he mispronounced Trey Young.
Speaker 1: We should have said Lebron James. Uh. Actually when the
Speaker 1: heavy people. But you know that's fine. He's looking at
Speaker 1: from his perspective. I will be firmly here in uh
Speaker 1: my straight jacket with the purple and gold on it.
Speaker 1: Uh shout out to wanted us to shout out the
Speaker 1: Hawks for releasing a video showing Tray off the ball
Speaker 1: twice and captioning and they said he can't play off
Speaker 1: the ball um because that was a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: So I mean, you know, maybe we'll see another couple
Speaker 1: off the ball plays from him just right. Want to
Speaker 1: over do it. Let's move on to Ben Goliver from
Speaker 1: The Washington Post, author of Bubble ball and get his take,
Speaker 1: which I know we've been talking about this for a
Speaker 1: little bit, Jack ever since he told us about this.
Speaker 1: So let's listen to Ben Goliver with his bold prediction
Speaker 1: for the season. All Right, I would say my wildest
Speaker 1: production for this upcoming season is that I'm selling stock
Speaker 1: at every team that was super good last year. So
Speaker 1: the final four Warriors, Celtics, Heat, and Mavericks, none of
Speaker 1: them will be in this year's final for none of
Speaker 1: them are going to make it back to the conference finals.
Speaker 1: And not only I mean that sounds crazy, but let
Speaker 1: me tell you this, the last four years, nobody has
Speaker 1: ever repeated as a conference finals So it's not actually
Speaker 1: it's not actually that hot, but it sounds hot if
Speaker 1: you don't think about it too hard. So that's, uh,
Speaker 1: that's my hot preseason take for you. There you have it,
Speaker 1: Ben Goliver saying none of the conference final teams are
Speaker 1: going to make it back because it seems like history
Speaker 1: would a recent history would show that's just sort of
Speaker 1: a recent trendy. I mean, I don't I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a hot tack to say the Maps don't make
Speaker 1: it back. That I wouldn't have been making it to
Speaker 1: the Western Conference Finals. Here, Um, I feel like we
Speaker 1: count out the Heat every year because you know, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, every off season they don't really do anything
Speaker 1: to make themselves better, They don't really take any strides
Speaker 1: in the all season. But then every time the postseason
Speaker 1: rolls around, Jimmy and Spokes are looking like you know,
Speaker 1: Phill and Mike, so so it's like, you know, you
Speaker 1: can't really get a read on the Heat into the
Speaker 1: else and I have decided not to do that because
Speaker 1: Jimmy was looking like like I thought, Jimmy had had
Speaker 1: fallen off until last postseason. So like Jimmy's he's he's
Speaker 1: reached that category where I do not evaluate him as
Speaker 1: a player until I see what he does in the postseason,
Speaker 1: like he's earned that from me. But yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that the Warriors are gonna make it back. Of course,
Speaker 1: I don't think the Maths are gonna make it back.
Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't be surprised with the sun'll make
Speaker 1: it back either, And like I said, we never know.
Speaker 1: With Miami, Yeah, yeah, Miami seems to be another one
Speaker 1: of the teams that everyone's sleeping on, right like the
Speaker 1: team that was good last year that everyone's just like, well,
Speaker 1: it's boring to say the heater can be good again
Speaker 1: this year, Little let's go with the sixers. I look,
Speaker 1: just going off of Jimmy Butler's hair, I feel there's
Speaker 1: something about his lightness of being, like, yeah, let me
Speaker 1: put these extent, let me just see where this goes
Speaker 1: that I feel like he's might he might be tapping
Speaker 1: into another like part of his consciousness that I think
Speaker 1: could elevate his game. So I never count out the
Speaker 1: humor in the preseason, but yeah, I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the heat probably and obviously the maths will be the
Speaker 1: or right. I mean, it is surprising though that we
Speaker 1: haven't had to repeat for the past few years. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think we asked him what what his
Speaker 1: explanation for that was, and he was saying injuries, right, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, Milwaukee won it the year before, and then
Speaker 1: their second most important piece got hurt going too the
Speaker 1: playoffs and you know, wasn't able to contribute. So that's
Speaker 1: just a thing to keep an eye. It's like wear
Speaker 1: and tear and maybe like how good and fast and
Speaker 1: strong everybody is at this point in the league means
Speaker 1: that you get one deep playoff run every couple of years,
Speaker 1: and like that's just the that's what the human body
Speaker 1: is capable of. How bad do things have to go
Speaker 1: for the Dubs though? Yeah, the Doves look stacked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but hey, look, I'm willing to entertain anything at this point.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to figure out how the heat The
Speaker 1: Celtics and the Sixers all missed the Eastern Conference Finals
Speaker 1: because the Sixers feel destined to stay at the second
Speaker 1: round as currently constituted, And so who I guess Milwaukee
Speaker 1: and Brooklyn maybe would be the Milwaukee and the Hawks.
Speaker 1: Nobody saw the Hawks coming when it was them a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Yeah that's true. Okay, let's keep
Speaker 1: it moving to Mr c J. Tolodono, fellow co host
Speaker 1: on the network or host on the network of Running
Speaker 1: the Break. U. Let's get his very grounded, very analysis
Speaker 1: static or statistics based, uh, I guess view into this
Speaker 1: upcoming season and just like everything being sorry, and I
Speaker 1: think I think we asked him also for most Improved
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, Defensive Player of the year, um
Speaker 1: and who's so, yeah, he's gonna he's gonna come through
Speaker 1: with a lot of heat here is my wild wild take.
Speaker 1: What I was gonna ask Javari if anyone set us
Speaker 1: that feel like it's on the tip of everyone's tongue,
Speaker 1: but no one's gonna say it. But Russell Westbrook is
Speaker 1: gonna have an insane revenge Tour season. He's gonna be
Speaker 1: that third superstar that Lebron and A D have needed
Speaker 1: or expected last year. Listen, I'm not even saying like mediocre.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be like they're gonna be trading off games.
Speaker 1: Lebron's gonna be the superstar one game. A D. Westbrook.
Speaker 1: Jabari is on silent, just taking a sip from his
Speaker 1: cup as if it's tea. Russell Westbrook guys revenge Tour.
Speaker 1: So that's my wild take. I'm gonna say my I
Speaker 1: guess my like general prediction here is. I mean, my
Speaker 1: heart wants to say Lakers are gonna get the Larry
Speaker 1: O'Brian Trophy this season, but I'm gonna go with the Bucks.
Speaker 1: The Bucks are gonna have another stellar season, gonna get
Speaker 1: the championship back. I just think adding ingles and and
Speaker 1: hopefully then being healthy um is gonna get them the
Speaker 1: championship this year. Um what else? What other predictions. Am
Speaker 1: I missing here? I mean say he's gonna say, let's
Speaker 1: go Alex Caruso. He's gonna get some minutes here with
Speaker 1: a Lonzo out and he's gonna put up a stellar
Speaker 1: defensive season. Okay, ce j come in with Defensive Player
Speaker 1: of the Year. He's going to join that tier with
Speaker 1: guards like Michael Jordan and Gary Payton won back ward.
Speaker 1: I don't know that woman, I love, but I was.
Speaker 1: I was looking at the history of defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year, and it's usually big man, big man, big
Speaker 1: man guard big man, big man, big man. So they'll
Speaker 1: give they'll throw into a guard as like as an
Speaker 1: offbeat clap on the downbeat type thing. But they're not
Speaker 1: usually ready to do it two years in a row,
Speaker 1: except for the one example where they did it two
Speaker 1: years in a row. Kauahi Leonard and I I hear
Speaker 1: he's healthy again this year, so I mean he wasn't
Speaker 1: in uniform, you know, that's what That's what I hear.
Speaker 1: Those are the Ruvers, Dragonfly. What do you think about
Speaker 1: the Russell Westbrook revenge tour? Um, I'm open to it,
Speaker 1: you know. For one, I'm a fan, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have my Lakers shades on here, like even on all
Speaker 1: episode mile So you know, I'm a Rust fan. Um,
Speaker 1: I think the whole thing is just figuring out his fit,
Speaker 1: Like you know, the production is still there. It's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, Russ suffered from a lot of brain farts
Speaker 1: last season, you know what I mean. He wasn't He
Speaker 1: wasn't you know, fitting the schemes and playing you know
Speaker 1: that way, like like you know, he had a pretty
Speaker 1: decent year, like twenty points per game on like shooting,
Speaker 1: but it just wasn't production that kind of mattered. He
Speaker 1: wasn't getting in where he fitting, so to speak. So
Speaker 1: so maybe Darma hand will figure that out, I hope.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean I can already see it. Wow,
Speaker 1: just like you said, one night it will be a
Speaker 1: d One night it'll be Lebron, the other would be
Speaker 1: Russell and there we the six man him coming off
Speaker 1: the bench and just like leading a second team that
Speaker 1: is like a totally off speed pitch, like really hard
Speaker 1: to deal with. Like that makes sense to me. That's
Speaker 1: the first kind of version of Rust being on this
Speaker 1: team that has made sense to me. Is it really
Speaker 1: just a questionable like you can't get him to buy
Speaker 1: into that or do we think that there's something about
Speaker 1: the fit that like doesn't actually make sense. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think it's all about the buying, Like it
Speaker 1: all comes down to Russ And like I said, Pat
Speaker 1: Bab said, there's no way Russ is coming off the bench.
Speaker 1: I'm skeptical if he buys into that himself. So I
Speaker 1: mean that's basically what it comes down to. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: feel like also too, there's just there's a friction with
Speaker 1: the fans too that I feel like it's also weighing
Speaker 1: on some level, like psychologically, because I I don't for
Speaker 1: a second think he doesn't want to be successful as
Speaker 1: a Laker, Like that's just hard for me to believe.
Speaker 1: And I know with all like a lot of the
Speaker 1: real toxic stuff that he went through, and some of
Speaker 1: the fans is being extra not dignified to put it lightly. Uh,
Speaker 1: that must weigh on some level and your ability to
Speaker 1: be like, well why am I like, how am I
Speaker 1: going to fully buy in when I don't feel like
Speaker 1: I'm getting the love back? So bro, the whole the
Speaker 1: whole arena yelled know that one time at man shot
Speaker 1: at three that yeah, like we got So I feel
Speaker 1: like there, there's I feel like there's a dimension to
Speaker 1: where you know, the fans can also meet Russ halfway. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back to
Speaker 1: continue with our NBA season predictions right after this. And
Speaker 1: we're back and it's time to continue this prediction train
Speaker 1: with Dan fa Valley from bleacher Report. Let's check in
Speaker 1: with him. What is his bold prediction for the upcoming season.
Speaker 1: My most reckless prediction for this coming NBA season is
Speaker 1: the Pelicans are gonna be a top four team in
Speaker 1: the Western Conference, which makes absolutely no sense because of
Speaker 1: how injured Zion has been in the past and how
Speaker 1: just deep and entrenched the West is at the top
Speaker 1: when you have Golden State Phoenix, the Clippers and Nuggets
Speaker 1: are supposed to be healthier. The Mavericks still have Luca Chrees.
Speaker 1: The Grizzlies have the second best record in the league
Speaker 1: last year and didn't finish, didn't lose anyone two mission
Speaker 1: critical over the off season. But I look at that
Speaker 1: series against the Suns and that team, that Pelicans team
Speaker 1: with the emergence of Herb Jones, Trey Murphy, uh adding
Speaker 1: c J McCollum, and now getting Zion Williamson to come
Speaker 1: back with Brandon Ingram and maybe a healthy Larry Nage Jr.
Speaker 1: I think the Pelicans are closer to championship contention status
Speaker 1: than not already without doing anything else. Yeah, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm pretty on the Pelicans myself too. You know, of
Speaker 1: course I'm coming back like what seven points per game
Speaker 1: like from the field of something absurd. You know, Brandon
Speaker 1: Ingram is a star. Um RB Jones, I think he's
Speaker 1: gonna be an all defensive guy this year. That dude
Speaker 1: is a straight jacket. Um, you know, Alvarados, a Hooper,
Speaker 1: you know, you know they finally got a O G.
Speaker 1: A veteran and CJ. You know. So yeah, I can
Speaker 1: for sure see the Pelicans probably finished the top four. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like this, So, you know, in contrast, so
Speaker 1: the Trey Young. So some of these we got a
Speaker 1: while back, like some of the some of these bold
Speaker 1: predictions were a little bit earlier in the off season. Um,
Speaker 1: some of them a couple of years ago. I don't
Speaker 1: know if you could hear the youthful exuberance in our
Speaker 1: in our voice now that they were like, you know,
Speaker 1: between a month and a half and like a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and so like Trey Young we got
Speaker 1: a while back, that is not one of the like,
Speaker 1: you know, dark horse picks that picked up steam. But
Speaker 1: Pelicans being a top four team in the West does
Speaker 1: feel like it's picked up some steam like that. That's
Speaker 1: one that has become less of a you know, wild
Speaker 1: off the wall take. And I after watching Zion comeback
Speaker 1: and have that eerie smile on his face for the
Speaker 1: entire first quarter as he was just gobbling up shots,
Speaker 1: just doing things on a basketball court that made it
Speaker 1: look like he had never left, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people were like, wait a second, these guys could
Speaker 1: be really freaking good this. Oh yeah. Especially after that,
Speaker 1: did you see that like side by side where they
Speaker 1: were comparing Kobe and Ingram's like fadeaways. Yeah, like and
Speaker 1: you're like, I was like, wow, you know, I saw
Speaker 1: I saw the fans getting pretty excited about that, and
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I like the way he moved.
Speaker 1: I mean, as somebody who looks at Brandon and is
Speaker 1: like like, I'm like that meme of Wolverine on the
Speaker 1: bed where he's looking at the picture of the one
Speaker 1: that got away, I'm I wish we could Brandon I
Speaker 1: miss you. Uh yeah, I can get on board with
Speaker 1: that for sure. Band again just seems just that like
Speaker 1: offseason Zion and like long pants, three sixty windmill, I
Speaker 1: was like, go ahead, and he's like, and I'm jumping
Speaker 1: higher than ever before. Those are all things I like
Speaker 1: to hear, just as a neutral to be you know,
Speaker 1: that will excite me for sure. But as we've discussed,
Speaker 1: you know, he design should be allowed to play in
Speaker 1: long pants and overalls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's exciting. So
Speaker 1: I think I think technically as a fan, you can't
Speaker 1: be mad at a trade that brought you a championship
Speaker 1: like Anthony Davis one did. But I do feel like
Speaker 1: this is the season where maybe that starts getting hard
Speaker 1: for the Lakers, with Ingram being the maybe leading score,
Speaker 1: second leading score, putting up like you know, mid ti
Speaker 1: high twenties of game on a team that is like
Speaker 1: making a lot of noise. I feel, I feel like
Speaker 1: that's pretty painful. Okay, let's move on to a fellow
Speaker 1: Laker fan, Raj Chapolu. Uh, He's got his very special
Speaker 1: take for it this season. H A. I'm Roger Chapalo
Speaker 1: and my wild prediction for this upcoming season, is the
Speaker 1: Denver Nuggets could finish as the first seed, the one
Speaker 1: seed regular season. Yes, I can see that and Yokich
Speaker 1: repeat as the m v P. I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: wins it three times in a row, so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I wouldn't see him winning it again. But I think
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna be really, really good. Michael Porter junior
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray back that team was hell as lake. You
Speaker 1: remember that team was hell to play with. Yeah, that's serious.
Speaker 1: Was a lot closer than people remember. It's interesting because
Speaker 1: like that if he doesn't win m v P, like,
Speaker 1: who does you know? It's not like there's a candidate
Speaker 1: that has come in second multiple years in a row,
Speaker 1: but it's second three times in a row. Wud win?
Speaker 1: Uh m v P. Since it's night. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a guy in Dallas who might have a well they
Speaker 1: might not be good enough, but we'll see the guy
Speaker 1: in Dallas not not familiar for the last few years,
Speaker 1: so you couldn't meet him, but not Joel and bet
Speaker 1: huh who oh yeah and beat Yeah? Yeah, he's I
Speaker 1: mean that's definitely a thought. That's interesting. I just seed
Speaker 1: it right now in this conversation, M beat P please
Speaker 1: Nuggets number one seed? Yeah, yeah, shot shots, Amie Roger,
Speaker 1: I'm with him. I think the Nuggets get them one seed. Two. Um,
Speaker 1: I do not think they win the West. I think
Speaker 1: the Warriors are coming out of the West again. Um,
Speaker 1: but you know the Warriors are there the O G
Speaker 1: s Now. You know they're not gonna be going ham
Speaker 1: every night, you know what I mean. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: paced themselves, keeping those legs fresh, you know, for the postseason.
Speaker 1: And Denver is the hungry young team on the come up.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I come for sure. It's seems getting to
Speaker 1: one seed. Who do you like for M v P?
Speaker 1: Then I'm just thinking Yoki. Obviously three in a row,
Speaker 1: that seems like a lot. I'm not gonna do it again.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it again. You're not gonna do
Speaker 1: it again. I'm gonna harm yourself again with that thought.
Speaker 1: Maybe I mean, could be could be MB You know,
Speaker 1: I've heard people say, you know that that he's do
Speaker 1: and like in this case, it does matter. You can
Speaker 1: say someone's do because like narrative is such a big
Speaker 1: part of it. But I don't know, man, he might
Speaker 1: he might just be over it and at this at
Speaker 1: this point, just want to come out and like when
Speaker 1: defensive Player of the Year get out of the second
Speaker 1: round or something, I personally have be honest. Um. A
Speaker 1: big reason it is back in like two thousand sixteen,
Speaker 1: I had a tweet that Yanne is going to get
Speaker 1: three MVPs in five seasons, so this is gonna be
Speaker 1: the fifth season there, and I need that tweet to
Speaker 1: come true something. So that's a big reason why I
Speaker 1: rooted for besides being a huge Jhannae fan and thinking
Speaker 1: that Yanna is flat out the best play in the world.
Speaker 1: So I think you're honest, guess it this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he's I mean every year he just looks sharper physically, mentally,
Speaker 1: especially mentally just all his comments after the EuroBasket and stuff.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, like he's I don't know,
Speaker 1: every time, like he's he's sort of like underlining his
Speaker 1: like elite mentality, and I'm like, yeah, yeah. He had
Speaker 1: he had a great quote when someone asked him who
Speaker 1: does he think the best play in the world, and
Speaker 1: he was like, it's staff the last got stand is
Speaker 1: always the best player in the world. Like that shows
Speaker 1: you exactly what he has his eyes on, right exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Because I feel like some people are like, well, that's
Speaker 1: the diplomatic answer, right, It's like, well, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be say like, oh, well, so and so who didn't
Speaker 1: win the chip is the best player that. It's like
Speaker 1: a very down the middle answer. But yeah, to your point,
Speaker 1: I think it's more indicative of like, no, you gotta
Speaker 1: win to have that honor, and that's the honor I want.
Speaker 1: Therefore it's him, right for sure? Right? And I think
Speaker 1: you honest was genuine and he said, like I remember
Speaker 1: all all the flak he caught during the NET series,
Speaker 1: was saying Katie was the best player in the world
Speaker 1: if you remember that, right, Like, so, you know your
Speaker 1: honest is a dude who I think he he he
Speaker 1: wears his emotions on his sleeves, he sho straight. I
Speaker 1: think he genuine believes that right now, at this moment,
Speaker 1: going into this season, stuff is the best player in
Speaker 1: the world, because, like he said, he was the last
Speaker 1: guy standing. Yeah, I mean that makes sense for Steph,
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense for Kad. I guess right, he was
Speaker 1: saying that about Katie while playing the NETS, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean back back then I had Katie over Janice
Speaker 1: during that series, so I mean, I don't think he
Speaker 1: was that far off base. But the five blocks games
Speaker 1: six finals happened, I was like, I don't know now, man,
Speaker 1: Oh that was So that was the Milwaukee Nets series
Speaker 1: where Katie was just trying to do it with an
Speaker 1: injured James harden and and nobody else. That was one
Speaker 1: of the coolest performances in a losing effort in a
Speaker 1: playoff series. Like, just what what Katie was doing there?
Speaker 1: Remembering that that was less than two years ago does
Speaker 1: get me excited about the Nets season again? Right? All right? Finally,
Speaker 1: let's check in with Mark Schindler NBA and w n B,
Speaker 1: a writer and check in with his hot prediction for
Speaker 1: the upcoming season. It's a this is Mark Schindler, uh
Speaker 1: my bold uh potentially hot take this season and be
Speaker 1: that both the Pelicans and the Calves we're gonna end
Speaker 1: up with home core advantage when fifty plus games. I
Speaker 1: see it happening. Um, I believe in both these teams. Granted,
Speaker 1: injuries can make this look like a real bit of
Speaker 1: a take in a month, but I believe it. Man,
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. Fifty wins is a lot of wins.
Speaker 1: Fifties a lot. I don't even know if you need
Speaker 1: fifty wins to get to get a four seed. But um,
Speaker 1: I do love this take. I love the Calves, as
Speaker 1: we've already discussed. I love the Pelicans, but I mean
Speaker 1: this is one that we got fairly recently, so it
Speaker 1: was after the Donovan Mitchell trade. How are you feeling
Speaker 1: dragonfly about the about the Calves this year? I'm pretty
Speaker 1: hot on the Caves too. I mean they've they've got
Speaker 1: a really mean rotation. You know, Darius. I think Darris
Speaker 1: is probably gonna stick his claim as like a top
Speaker 1: three point guard this year. I think he's that good.
Speaker 1: You know, um Evan Mobley, who is just a freak
Speaker 1: of a man child. You know, he's the guy who
Speaker 1: I think is probably gonna be a defensive Player of
Speaker 1: the Year before it's all done. Um, you know, you
Speaker 1: got Jared Allen as you know, provider rain protection. There,
Speaker 1: you got you know, the backcourt of Darius and Donovan. Now,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I've got pretty hot hopes for the Potic
Speaker 1: Calfs too. I think that they are going to be, um,
Speaker 1: you know, forced to be reckoned with this season for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, fifty wins is a lot a lot in
Speaker 1: the in the West, especially, so like maybe maybe a
Speaker 1: little too much dip on his chip with the Pelicans
Speaker 1: getting to fifty, but well, we'll see. I mean, what
Speaker 1: does Vegas say, that's fifty and thirty two. That's like
Speaker 1: eighteen games over. That's pretty I mean they got yeah,
Speaker 1: Vegas says, Pells are coming at forty four and a half,
Speaker 1: Cleveland forty seven and a half, so not out there.
Speaker 1: And then the Lakers, Oh eighty cool, that's really cool Vegas. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'll take those odds. Then as the Lakers, they got
Speaker 1: us winning forty five and a half games. Sir, Look,
Speaker 1: if I put on my Laker color glasses, I say,
Speaker 1: that's number is too low. If I take them off
Speaker 1: and come crash them back to earth, I say, I
Speaker 1: think we could go, maybe get down a little bit.
Speaker 1: But hey, I'll put my glass Let me put my
Speaker 1: glasses back on. I don't like him with my glasses on. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick Let's take a quick break, and
Speaker 1: we'll be right back to close it out with the
Speaker 1: very famous or infamous rapid fire round of questions. Right
Speaker 1: after this and we're back Dragonfly Jones. You have entered
Speaker 1: the danger zone, which is the rapid fire round of questions.
Speaker 1: Now we're just gonna ask you something. We're gonna ask
Speaker 1: for a quick prediction, your thoughts on a certain award
Speaker 1: of this season. Just the first answer that comes to
Speaker 1: your mind. Just send it right back. No time to
Speaker 1: dawdle on the answers. We keep this moving because it
Speaker 1: is known as the fastest segment in podcasting, So we're
Speaker 1: appreciate your cooperation ahead of time. Are we ready? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get it. Start the clock. I said, I was ready,
Speaker 1: like like, there's a lot of pressure on me. Well
Speaker 1: there is, Jack. We can't mess up these questions because
Speaker 1: I got acial incumbent on us to read quickly. Um,
Speaker 1: you want to go first, All right, let's go. Let
Speaker 1: us get your m v P pick. You mentioned Janice,
Speaker 1: But if not him, who who do you got? If
Speaker 1: not your honest I think it will be Luca. And
Speaker 1: I think if not Luca, who do you think If
Speaker 1: not Luca? I haven't felt that far, but I think
Speaker 1: that you know, with with with with your kids winning
Speaker 1: it as a six seed, I think you know with
Speaker 1: rust winning it as like what what was he six
Speaker 1: C two back when you wanted? I think seating might
Speaker 1: not matter as much, and I do not see the
Speaker 1: mass finishing that high in the season and the seating.
Speaker 1: So if not your honest, I could see Luca for
Speaker 1: sure getting it. And if you, if you had to,
Speaker 1: maybe someone who else also in the Eastern Conference right right,
Speaker 1: maybe somebody who may have Cameroonian there there. It is
Speaker 1: again an interesting thought that I hadn't considered. That's pretty okay,
Speaker 1: all right, well you heard and for m v P
Speaker 1: you heard it here first, Thank you so much. Dragon questions.
Speaker 1: Next question, Defensive Player of the Year, who is it?
Speaker 1: Be honest, that's that's part of that's part of my
Speaker 1: hot take. I guess the bag now. I think pulls
Speaker 1: off the ninety four A Keene this season. I think
Speaker 1: he wins MVP DEFENSI Player of the Year finals MVP. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I like that very interesting. Um. Again, just in believing
Speaker 1: what players tell us about them themselves, Joel and be
Speaker 1: did say in a preseason it wasn't really interested in
Speaker 1: the m VP and was more looking at Defensive Player
Speaker 1: the Year award this year, UM, which I think does
Speaker 1: make some sense for the Sixers if, like, you know,
Speaker 1: they have more of a perime or based offense and
Speaker 1: just use him as like the third option. I think
Speaker 1: that it might be the most dangerous version of the Sixers.
Speaker 1: So just putting that name out there, uh, Joel indeed,
Speaker 1: who plays for the seventy sixers every week? Who do
Speaker 1: you got for a rookie of the year. I think Paulo.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that that's probably you know, the
Speaker 1: boring answer here, but I mean those two summer games
Speaker 1: that he just went crazy. You know, the kid looked
Speaker 1: NBA ready from his first game at Duke. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm going, Yeah, okay, I like that pick.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to suggest mbiad here because it would nobody, no,
Speaker 1: nobody there. Yeah, Who's who's your pick? Miles, don't make
Speaker 1: me say it? No, say it? Go ahead, don't look,
Speaker 1: I don't, don't worry about me. Let's just let's keep
Speaker 1: this fact based. I don't, I don't, I don't need
Speaker 1: to be Look, I haven't even seen a game yet.
Speaker 1: Next week I'm coming with very strong takes. I want
Speaker 1: to feed my data set. Uh, we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 1: Moving on next question, Dragonfly Jones Most Improved? Who is
Speaker 1: getting most improved next year? Most Improved? This is such
Speaker 1: like a weird award. You know what is it? Is?
Speaker 1: It like the you surprised us, We didn't expect you
Speaker 1: to be this good or congrats on you know the
Speaker 1: progression we expected of Right, It's like, oh, you were
Speaker 1: washed and then came back in resurrects like which. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess if you want to give versions, maybe we'll
Speaker 1: give the who who came back from the depths most improved,
Speaker 1: and then maybe give us a Okay, young man, you're
Speaker 1: on your way most improved. Yeah, because I don't think
Speaker 1: any of us would have predicted job last season. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: So so the natural progression year on the Way Way
Speaker 1: to Go award, I would give that to Bones Highland.
Speaker 1: I think Bones Highland for Denver, Like you know, I
Speaker 1: expect never to be a one seed. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: one seeds usually rack up in the awards. So Bones
Speaker 1: is probably my we predicted you getting better and you
Speaker 1: proved us right in m I P M okay. I
Speaker 1: do like Tyrese Maxi too, though, Oh I think I
Speaker 1: think I had another hot take. Is Tyrese Maxe could
Speaker 1: possibly be the best player in that backcourt. I like
Speaker 1: that this episode slowly turned into the Jack being like,
Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think about this guy? Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll give you. Let me give you another shot at
Speaker 1: answer in that dragon right now the most improved. So
Speaker 1: I was actually on a podcast with a super producer
Speaker 1: Jabari called Baseline, and we were doing like Awards predictions,
Speaker 1: and I was looking back at the history and it
Speaker 1: typically like it really seems to recently go to people
Speaker 1: who made the leap from being good to being like
Speaker 1: either good to all Star caliber or last year all
Speaker 1: start to like, you know, all NBA caliber, Like six
Speaker 1: of the eight last most improved her jaw ingram Oladipo,
Speaker 1: Janice Janice with like one four years ago, uh CJ McCallum,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler. That's six of the last eight most improved.
Speaker 1: So it feels like it might be someone like Zion
Speaker 1: coming through and like, you know, being in the m
Speaker 1: v P discussion, all of a sudden, people are like WHOA, Like,
Speaker 1: we well, we gotta give him something and that would
Speaker 1: be I mean, he'd definitely be better than last season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then look, look I hate to do this, but
Speaker 1: you know, Dragonfly Jack, I'm sorry, Dragonfly. I gotta apologize
Speaker 1: on behalf of the host here. This is the rapid
Speaker 1: fire round up questioning, So we really, we really should
Speaker 1: keep on. We got a little lazy, you know, we're
Speaker 1: leaning into a little bit, but we have to focus.
Speaker 1: I was gonna get to the I was gonna get
Speaker 1: to the part where I thought Anthony Davis was an
Speaker 1: interesting pick for most Improved. Sometimes he's also involved in
Speaker 1: the m v P discussion. But no, that's okay, dartr
Speaker 1: Clock again from the top. No, no, no, no, go on.
Speaker 1: What were saying about Scottie Pippen jr. Um Okay, we
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. Uh, where we're where we're Yes,
Speaker 1: Oh I think you got the last one? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So just what's your finals prediction? Who you got? I've
Speaker 1: got the Bucks, the Warriors. I've got the Bucks in six? Wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: I like that. I mean, does the Bucks have They're
Speaker 1: three and they're healthy. I think they're gonna be pretty
Speaker 1: hard to beat. Is Chris Middleton back yet? Now? Risk? Still?
Speaker 1: It's still right when he risk so so no real
Speaker 1: need need for concern there. But okay, oh, because they
Speaker 1: say first few weeks of the season. Okay, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm pulling for I really like Chris Middleton, so
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie. I would like
Speaker 1: to see him back at his full full potential. All right.
Speaker 1: And finally, Dragonfly Jones, the most important question, Jack or Miles. Wow, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw I try to power post.
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yeah, you definitely you got on your
Speaker 1: Clark can't hear right there? Okay, no that makes sense. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not love you. That's that's cool. Yeah, Jabar is
Speaker 1: cool too. I'm not gonna anything. Well, Dragonfly Jones, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us on this predictions episode
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