Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty, episode
Speaker 1: three of Didi's I Guys Stay production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday, October, five
Speaker 1: days out from Peaks Spooky Season, Peaks, Spookers, Peaks Spookers.
Speaker 1: As we call it, National mince Meat Day, National Financial
Speaker 1: Crime Fighter Day, which is funny because I think a
Speaker 1: bunch of district court just defunded the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau.
Speaker 1: That thing. Uh, National Mule Day, National Pumpkin Day, National
Speaker 1: Tennessee Day. That's interesting. I do feel like national crimes
Speaker 1: like fraud or you know, something targeting white collar crimes
Speaker 1: would be would be good if if America celebrated that
Speaker 1: more does not does not feel like that is the
Speaker 1: sort of thing that anybody gives a ship that we
Speaker 1: like to celebrate. The fell pionnaires who drives up as
Speaker 1: crime fight like yeah, yeah that that that ye and
Speaker 1: and beat up like drug addicts who are like that.
Speaker 1: I think that was like explicitly like Jack, there's scum
Speaker 1: all right, batman knows what he's doing. Crime is crime
Speaker 1: as long as long as it's a poorer person doing
Speaker 1: a crime to richer person than America wants to see
Speaker 1: it stopped by even richer person exactly. Yeah, often a way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's just that's all I think of with Batman now,
Speaker 1: which is my favorite thing. That's what that's what the
Speaker 1: original creators intended that tick and shout out to mince meat,
Speaker 1: which you know, I'm not super popular. I haven't seen
Speaker 1: it on a It does feel like the sort of
Speaker 1: thing that's going to get a reclamation project at some point,
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen that mince meat that often bringing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like the new fucking Crown Nut wave is like the
Speaker 1: mincemeat wave for what is It's just minced meat, just
Speaker 1: chopped up meat. Yeah, I mean I think it's just
Speaker 1: like a mince meat high. Feel like that's more of
Speaker 1: like in England, you know, like we don't really do
Speaker 1: we don't really talk like that. I feel like we
Speaker 1: just call it you ground beef. Yeah yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's probably like proper recipes for it. But look what,
Speaker 1: I know nothing of it minced meat. It was just
Speaker 1: a euphemism for I'm gonna kill you. Yeah right, Well,
Speaker 1: I just like to say mince meat and pound my
Speaker 1: fist into my hand, quietly by myself so nobody sees me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: pound his face in the minced meat. Yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: know it was food. My name's Jack O'Brien, Potatoes O'Brien,
Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
Speaker 1: co host Mr Miles Ground Gray one two three Miles
Speaker 1: Gray and Jackie ob Tubit Pod going to the tip
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Speaker 1: kind of scandid list, the trick to eat they got
Speaker 1: in nil in Candy, too much Good Drugs and kick
Speaker 1: Cats file. Okay, shout out LOCKERNI for that. Definitely, we
Speaker 1: really charted two hundred on Apple. That's huge. I thought
Speaker 1: they stopped putting. I thought two hundreds, like they don't
Speaker 1: feel like it doesn't go past this. So if we're
Speaker 1: hitting there to do something wrong right for us? Huge
Speaker 1: We're a two hundredth rate podcast, not even second rate.
Speaker 1: That was beautiful though. Who was two hundred overall or
Speaker 1: was it two hundred in your specific category? Probably news
Speaker 1: that's a big category. So that's huge. Sometimes we we
Speaker 1: are I like at you know, on Apple podcasts, but
Speaker 1: it's under TV reviews, slash after shows, which is a
Speaker 1: very small field. I don't know. That feels pretty conjuct me.
Speaker 1: There's quite a few of those. Yeah, I thought you
Speaker 1: were gonna say it was number forty six and TV reviews,
Speaker 1: Slash after Shows, Slash the Wire, The Wire, Slash the
Speaker 1: Wire this year, Slash Show. As Matt Lee does, Right,
Speaker 1: you're up against method Man? Really well, Miles that third voice,
Speaker 1: we're here and as somebody were through to be joined
Speaker 1: by in our third seed. Very funny comedian, the host
Speaker 1: of the podcasts prodcasts Pod Yourself a Gun and now
Speaker 1: Pod Yourself the Wire. It's Matt What there he is? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a soundboard on my ship. Promise not to
Speaker 1: use it that much. You guys heard it, but it
Speaker 1: was great. It was high pitched laser sound. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: also got a few like the ire ones where it's
Speaker 1: like you should all over yourself for you know, there's
Speaker 1: a feeling and then there's a snoop going. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what she said, but you're I like, Europe is
Speaker 1: just like a thing. I use Europe all the time,
Speaker 1: and I didn't. I was not properly, you know, snoop. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta get apparent. Yeah, you know what I'd like
Speaker 1: to do. I like to go backpacking in Europe. You
Speaker 1: got any you got an you got the standard, you
Speaker 1: got some Yeah, no, that's not it. God damn it. There.
Speaker 1: I really got to label these because I always do
Speaker 1: them wrong, smashing them. I just don't. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have that one that's Bunk just
Speaker 1: saying yeah, good I think and that yeah you had
Speaker 1: an extra dabba, which yea, yeah, that's that's fun. That's
Speaker 1: a you know, Bunk does things like that. Anyways, I'm
Speaker 1: here and uh a, k a, I'm daddy, you're you,
Speaker 1: and Francesca baby dropped. Hey yeah, baby dropped. And the
Speaker 1: thing about the baby is that it your over itself
Speaker 1: and uh yeah. Little Carina was born October seven, and
Speaker 1: she's just she sleeps all day and she cries all night.
Speaker 1: So I'm working. The guys are alike. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that is me. I cry all night sleep. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the life of a lead. So yeah, she's she's truly
Speaker 1: one of one of us. What's your? How was how
Speaker 1: was that? How was your? The moment of birth and
Speaker 1: it was magical. Everything rushed to you and you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm here, now, yeah, it was. It was pretty great.
Speaker 1: I mean, Francesca is a goddamn superhero, like she uh,
Speaker 1: she was going into like early labor at the house
Speaker 1: and she didn't want to like go to the hospital
Speaker 1: quite yet, you know. So we were doing a bunch
Speaker 1: of these like, you know, things to mitigate the chain stretches,
Speaker 1: one of those yeah, big yoga ball, you know, just
Speaker 1: like kind of like putting my hands on her sits
Speaker 1: bones and giving her like different prenatal massage things. And
Speaker 1: by the time we got to the hospital, she was
Speaker 1: eight centimeters dilated. Alright, it's ten is how much? Let's
Speaker 1: go time. And then she was laboring without medication for
Speaker 1: like twelve hours, and then eventually she was just like,
Speaker 1: this is very painful. She had back labor. So that's
Speaker 1: like the baby's spine is on her spine and that
Speaker 1: kind of hurts like a mouf and uh. And so
Speaker 1: then she got up a dural all at the very end,
Speaker 1: and then she pushed out a beautiful baby girl. The
Speaker 1: first thing baby girl did was take a poopoo and
Speaker 1: I was like, that's all right, that's the best turn
Speaker 1: off strong, Yeah, I got to yeah, I gotta save that, right,
Speaker 1: you saved the Oh yeah, yeah you ronze that s
Speaker 1: yeah about what the placenta. The placenta eating is a
Speaker 1: is a real thing. I know about the Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: sent to eat? Oh I eat the wrong with some eggs.
Speaker 1: It's called right, it's called maconium. It's ukonium. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: early stuff. Yeah, it's good stuff. It's very it doesn't smell.
Speaker 1: It's funny because I remember when Homegirl, who's a nurse,
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, what's like that first ship they
Speaker 1: take Like She's like, it's like tars called tonium and
Speaker 1: they're not eating food that would make a stink. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: that makes sense, And the fact that I don't think
Speaker 1: about that at all shows my lack of understanding. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's crazy because it's like it's this completely dark, sticky
Speaker 1: poo poo substance and it's called fucking on optanium essentially,
Speaker 1: and you can only get it in babies, Colon's or
Speaker 1: the minds of Pandora. Yeah, I bet you could power
Speaker 1: a spaceship with that ship. So yeah, why not. It's
Speaker 1: a new motor oil. Yeah, she's she's really cute though,
Speaker 1: she's really beautiful. She's the sweetest little girl. But she
Speaker 1: should just learn that nighttime for sleepy daytime. Yeah, eventually, eventually,
Speaker 1: When does that happen? Jack? When does she? So here's
Speaker 1: one thing that I learned is that like the early
Speaker 1: days go away, like it's it's totally a blur to me.
Speaker 1: So I I am completely unhelped. I think it's so
Speaker 1: I think our brands do it so that we keep
Speaker 1: having babies, right, Yeah, it's a biological like coping mechanism.
Speaker 1: It's like keep having babies, wonderful. The whole thing was
Speaker 1: that was actually really chill. Yeah. Yeah, And it's like
Speaker 1: a lack of sleep, so you're not taking in that
Speaker 1: many memories until they get a older and like then
Speaker 1: things like get a little more. But yeah, that that's
Speaker 1: one thing. I'm very unhelpful with the early days because
Speaker 1: I just like I remember things that come back in flashes,
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't remember them that well. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The worst thing is I'm not like fully allowed to
Speaker 1: complain about it because obviously Francesco has the bulk of
Speaker 1: the work because she's the one she's like doing the
Speaker 1: breastfeeding and we're not yet like pumping, so I'm not
Speaker 1: feeding the child so she's the one who has to
Speaker 1: like for sure, for sure wake up and um so
Speaker 1: I'm like damn, but like my hardship is that I'm
Speaker 1: not able to complain about it. So that's what I
Speaker 1: was like, I got to do this podcast boys to
Speaker 1: be like, damn, damn, my life's hard to y'all get it,
Speaker 1: y'all get it totally. All right, Matt, We're gonna get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're
Speaker 1: talking about today. We're gonna look into whether Trump is
Speaker 1: gonna rehearse coup in Pennsylvania. Things are you know that
Speaker 1: it seems like the midterms is that is shaping up
Speaker 1: to be like they're going to use some of their
Speaker 1: favorite new tactics like intimidation and people at polling places
Speaker 1: and then claiming they didn't lose when they lost. The
Speaker 1: normal democracy, I think is how it's democracy in action.
Speaker 1: We're gonna look at a new event in America's cube
Speaker 1: based moral panic in schools having to do with a
Speaker 1: mural that that was pretty pretty wild. Not the mural,
Speaker 1: the moral panic, just the levels of cognitive dissonance that
Speaker 1: was like be healthy. They're like, what, yes, that is
Speaker 1: the healthy demon. So that all of that plenty more.
Speaker 1: But first, Matt, we do like to ask our guest,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? Oh, I'll tell you, buddy,
Speaker 1: my search history that this is something that I googled
Speaker 1: yesterday where two get adderall. Let me explain. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I've been diagnosed with a d h D since I
Speaker 1: was a little kid, and I've gone on and off
Speaker 1: of medication, you know, for a lot of my youth,
Speaker 1: because I didn't like taking meds. It's kind of embarrassing
Speaker 1: being like taken out of class so you can go
Speaker 1: to the nurse's office and take meds. And whenever I
Speaker 1: didn't take my meds, I always felt like I was,
Speaker 1: you know, like my normal self. Put me on my meds.
Speaker 1: I was like, Anyways, adderall is the stuff that ended
Speaker 1: up working for me. And now there is a shortage
Speaker 1: of adderall and I've been taking you know, this psychiatric
Speaker 1: medication for the last i mean fucking forever decades and
Speaker 1: now there's a goddamn it's out and I can't get
Speaker 1: my order refill. I'm officially, as of today, completely unmedicated.
Speaker 1: And sleep deprived. And I I fully blame TikTok. I
Speaker 1: blame TikTok T means for going on there and for
Speaker 1: being like, hey, we all have a d h D
Speaker 1: and now there's shortage and it's not fair people like
Speaker 1: me who need it. I need the medication. Not to
Speaker 1: say that people on TikTok don't need it necessarily, but
Speaker 1: I will say that some of these videos that I
Speaker 1: see are kind of just you know, twenty one year
Speaker 1: olds pathologizing super regular things like losing your car keys,
Speaker 1: Like that's not everyone loses their car keys. That does
Speaker 1: not mean you necessarily have a d h D. Right,
Speaker 1: you know some of us cannot function all right. So
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but I'm tired of this, and I
Speaker 1: know there's gonna be a people who listen to this
Speaker 1: podcast gonna be like, oh, that's not fair your gate keeping. Bro.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm unmedicated right now. I'm giveing fuck I'm the gatekeeper,
Speaker 1: all right, answer me these questions. Three did a psychiatrist
Speaker 1: give you a diagnosis? How long have you been diagnosed?
Speaker 1: And have you tried all the other medications? Because some
Speaker 1: of us have tried everything. And the one that worked
Speaker 1: was at or all, so please please stop and let
Speaker 1: me get my stash, all right, it feels like this.
Speaker 1: This is similar to the opioid the response to the
Speaker 1: opioid epidemic, in that they are like the responses to
Speaker 1: just like sort of trying address it by cutting the
Speaker 1: supply because America thinks there's like over prescription of the drug,
Speaker 1: and so the way they're addressing it rather than you know,
Speaker 1: digging into how it's being diagnosed, like what you know,
Speaker 1: any of these into the societal the aspects of our
Speaker 1: society that have led people to have this disorder, because
Speaker 1: this is a societal problem as much as it is
Speaker 1: a psychiatric problem. Sure, the fact that we have a
Speaker 1: culture that basically says you're worthless unless you are get
Speaker 1: up early hustle person makes I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people realize or think that there's something wrong with them
Speaker 1: and that they need to be this high achieving whatever.
Speaker 1: But America punishes the punches everyone by saying, oh no,
Speaker 1: this is a problem of you know, uh, everyone's just
Speaker 1: an adderall addict, So we gotta we gotta cut off
Speaker 1: the supply. And you know, while some people I think
Speaker 1: would rightly be like, well, I should attack that system,
Speaker 1: not me. I'm attacking the first zoomer I see, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna steal their stash because you know what is doggie
Speaker 1: dog out there? This is the Hunger Games, but for adderall,
Speaker 1: this is the this is the non Hunger Games, because
Speaker 1: you don't get hungry when you're on, which is a plus.
Speaker 1: Yeah all right, yeah, I mean because I feel like
Speaker 1: every everything we read is like, a couple of months ago,
Speaker 1: it's like there could be an adderall shortage. Then it
Speaker 1: was like it's looking like an adderall shortage is coming.
Speaker 1: Now it's like there's an adderall shortage. And you'd figure
Speaker 1: the manufacturer would be like, oh, okay, many more. But
Speaker 1: literally they're not doing that because they're being you know,
Speaker 1: fucking hampered by the d e A or whatever Federal
Speaker 1: Drug Enforcement Administration is decided that they need to limit
Speaker 1: the supply because because that'll help, because you know, it's bullshit.
Speaker 1: You know it's coming from the top, because you know
Speaker 1: who works very efficiently at keeping the drugs flowing. The
Speaker 1: cartels and those guys they got like guns and ship
Speaker 1: like they you you you wouldn't be wrong to be like, oh,
Speaker 1: they seem like they would be disorganized. Yeah, it seems
Speaker 1: like it. Guess what they know how to do industry,
Speaker 1: They know manufacturing, they understand supplying demand. Yeah, they understand
Speaker 1: supplying demand. So it's just very annoying that it's just
Speaker 1: like we uh like actual like people like people who
Speaker 1: are cooking meth are going to transition to find a
Speaker 1: way to make I guarantee it's already happening. This is guaranteed.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing with the Final crisis that's happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why is fence and all killing all these people? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean a big reason is because do you notice
Speaker 1: that drug dealers now, like you know, they're they are
Speaker 1: manufacturing drugs to look like pharmaceuticals. That's how fucking popular
Speaker 1: pharmaceuticals are. Pharmaceuticals are so popular that they are manufacturing
Speaker 1: their drugs to look like pills. It used to be
Speaker 1: that they're like loose powder whatever drug, addicts will use it,
Speaker 1: put it in tar, I don't give a fuck. But
Speaker 1: now they're like, nah, people like pills. Why because they
Speaker 1: fucking pushed pills pharmaceuticals. Yeah, so the pharmaceutical industry got
Speaker 1: a bunch of people addicted and then pulled pulled it
Speaker 1: out right now, it's can't be used this medication that
Speaker 1: they're over over prescribing and be used where it's actually needed.
Speaker 1: And so the people who are getting hurt are you know,
Speaker 1: people like drug addicts who are human beings. Sorry, they
Speaker 1: are humans and they don't deserve to die just because
Speaker 1: they're adicted to drugs, and people who have legitimate uses
Speaker 1: for this medication but aren't able to get them because
Speaker 1: we live in this puritanical, fucking pseudo capitalistic society that
Speaker 1: just decides, oh, well, you know what the best way
Speaker 1: to fight this is to pretend as if we can't
Speaker 1: make it, so fuck all these funk them all. I'm tired.
Speaker 1: Let him dry out? Like what? Sorry? Mostly first second,
Speaker 1: what is what something you think is overrated? I think, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I hate to say this, and I know
Speaker 1: it's gonna come. You know, this is I'm dropping a
Speaker 1: bond shell here, but uh, fucking Kanye over over I think?
Speaker 1: Can can we all admit now that like Graduation was
Speaker 1: not that good and the college drop out, fine drop
Speaker 1: out was the one album I'm like, that's his good album, right, Yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: that that's the one that's like, Okay, there's yeah, good album?
Speaker 1: Was that too? Was an eight? Two thousan three? I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, you know, let's let can we stop? Like
Speaker 1: all Kanye did was released one good album and be
Speaker 1: like I Am God for like two decades and uh
Speaker 1: and now people are finally just like, wait, he's insane.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, yeah, he's overrated. His music is not
Speaker 1: that good. And honestly, you know the anti semitism that
Speaker 1: we all saw that coming a mile away. We all
Speaker 1: knew he was gonna be anti Jew. Everyone knew it.
Speaker 1: Was like, listen, this guy, he has been going off
Speaker 1: the deep end for a while. He's been wearing a
Speaker 1: Magahattan ship. We all knew it. I was like, this
Speaker 1: is he is. He is three days away from reading
Speaker 1: mind comp and being like, oh this is new to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's nothing more annoying than anti semitism, for for the
Speaker 1: obvious reasons, but also because everyone who gets anti Semitics
Speaker 1: thinks they're the first person to see the matrix. Right.
Speaker 1: They're like, did you know that the Jews actually like
Speaker 1: run the media and stuff? Have you ever heard that?
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, it's really old. It's been around
Speaker 1: for like ever, and uh, it's been debunked a thousand times,
Speaker 1: and there's a stupid thing to say out loud, and
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, well you don't want me to say
Speaker 1: it because fucking because you know, because you know it's true,
Speaker 1: and you like blessed off the air. Yeah, Like, hey,
Speaker 1: if you want to see who uh is in power?
Speaker 1: See who you cannot criticize. It's like, yeah, like kids
Speaker 1: with leukemia the most powerful, the most powerful people, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: dying cancer kids. You can't criticize them. They run everything.
Speaker 1: It's just wild to see how much though. It's just
Speaker 1: you know, knowing how dangerous it was to let him
Speaker 1: out there and saying like just having all this ship
Speaker 1: get aired, yeah not and not taking it down, whether
Speaker 1: it was Drink Champs or Tucker Carlson or Pierce Morrigan
Speaker 1: being like, whoa this this kind of you know, like
Speaker 1: kind of the kind of wacky ship that he's saying
Speaker 1: anti semitic shape my viewers are kind of into. And
Speaker 1: plus it will get some it'll get some clicks and
Speaker 1: you see immediately again, we just were talked about it
Speaker 1: the other day. How that led to people on the
Speaker 1: fucking four oh five putting up there like fucking Kanye
Speaker 1: was right about the Jews banners and ship like that
Speaker 1: and doing seek Highland it. Yeah, you're like, that's that's why,
Speaker 1: that's why you can't have fucking people out here talking
Speaker 1: like he's saying, spreading this kind of vitriolic bullshit, not
Speaker 1: challenging it, and then waiting for like Adidas to be
Speaker 1: like and that's enough right there, right there, that was
Speaker 1: decided that's too far. Yeah, it's very annoying, and it's
Speaker 1: even more annoying the the kind of like this white
Speaker 1: supremacist like right wing news media is clearly using this
Speaker 1: for multiple purposes. Number one, because you know they want
Speaker 1: to show like a you know, see there are black
Speaker 1: maga people and and at the same time they want
Speaker 1: to do kind of like blanket anti black racism and
Speaker 1: paint all black men as anti Semitic, because that's a
Speaker 1: huge part of it, especially with their like hardcore right
Speaker 1: wing pro Israel base, who like has no problem painting
Speaker 1: every single person of color who speaks just a little
Speaker 1: bit about Israel as Oh well, that's just the same
Speaker 1: as Kanye. They're the same as uh, you know, sucking Farrakhan.
Speaker 1: Like there's a huge amount of anti blackness in kind
Speaker 1: of these like blanket like accusations of anti Semitism that happened,
Speaker 1: and Kanye is just he's just the perfect person for
Speaker 1: them to like point and go like, let's give this
Speaker 1: guy some air time because it serves all these purposes
Speaker 1: all at once. It's a ad bag of right wing
Speaker 1: talking points. Yeah, it's gross, but he is anti semitic,
Speaker 1: is fuck? Yeah, all right, let's say a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back and Matt Lee,
Speaker 1: as you know, we also like to ask our guess,
Speaker 1: what's something you think is underrated? What is underrated my
Speaker 1: power as the leftist luminary. I'm speaking specifically of did
Speaker 1: you guys see me get dragged by Glenn Greenwald recently? No? Okay,
Speaker 1: so Glenn Greenwald, famed journalists turned insane man who posts
Speaker 1: was uh, he was just like he was just having
Speaker 1: a day and some you know, people were being mean
Speaker 1: to him on Twitter, which, um, you know, if I'm
Speaker 1: being honest, it's like, yeah, you're the cruelest on Twitter.
Speaker 1: All you do is platform cruel as people and do
Speaker 1: cruel things yourself. So it's like it's weird that you're like,
Speaker 1: how could people be cruel to me. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is the type of you know, this is the
Speaker 1: ship you foster. Anyways, I saw a tweet that I
Speaker 1: thought was very funny, and I just I I faithed it.
Speaker 1: I clicked Faith. I didn't read tweet. I just clicked Faith.
Speaker 1: Next thing I know, like thirty minutes later, I get
Speaker 1: back on Twitter and Glenn Greenwald has posted about me,
Speaker 1: Matt Leeb, and he he what did he write? He wrote,
Speaker 1: sometimes the complete sociopathic sickness of various luminaries of the
Speaker 1: left amazes even me. This cretan at matt Leeb worked
Speaker 1: for Al Jazeera, and I have zero doubt that this
Speaker 1: is the sort of really demented stuff that won't provoke
Speaker 1: even the smallest objection from his leftist fans. And then
Speaker 1: it's a screenshot of my likes and it was just
Speaker 1: me liking a tweet a guy named Gary Dumbass, and
Speaker 1: and he just, uh, he just went after me, and
Speaker 1: I just tweeted back at him. Uh. I do a
Speaker 1: The Wire podcast, Glenn. I don't know why he thinks
Speaker 1: I'm a leftist luminary. I mean, I appreciate it. It
Speaker 1: makes me feel he must be a fan. He must
Speaker 1: have wanted to go on to either The Sopranos or
Speaker 1: the Wire podcast, and you're gonna yeah, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: too bad because I'm sure he would have been a great,
Speaker 1: great guest, but yeah he got really barns to O'Brien,
Speaker 1: this is bullshit. Yeah, and uh yeah, then I told
Speaker 1: him I do the Wire podcast, and then he blocked me,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, that was a perfect little thing.
Speaker 1: And then just means like I don't know, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: like I know, and I'm mad about it. And then
Speaker 1: to of mine, we're just like quote tweeting it and
Speaker 1: you know, making jokes about me, mostly like kind of
Speaker 1: just making fun of me. And he blocked all of
Speaker 1: them too, So I got a bunch of my friends
Speaker 1: blocked by association by Glenn Greenwald. And uh so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess what I'm saying is that I am a
Speaker 1: very powerful voice of the left and left movements exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, sure most of the time I talked
Speaker 1: about eating, but sure I mostly just you know, talk
Speaker 1: about The Sopranos being a show about titties and meat. Sure,
Speaker 1: I like to talk about the Wire, but also I'm
Speaker 1: really smart on politics and stuff as you guys know obviously,
Speaker 1: I mean you're on this show. I'm on the show.
Speaker 1: I know about politics, heard of him to talk about him,
Speaker 1: all these politics things. Speaking of which, let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Trump is I don't know if you have you heard
Speaker 1: of this guy, heard of him dude as another guy
Speaker 1: is like I know, another leftist luminary. So it feels
Speaker 1: like they're going to use the mid terms basically to
Speaker 1: try like you know, the election was beta test of
Speaker 1: like how to overturn election results, and this is going
Speaker 1: to be you know, here's what we learned, here's what
Speaker 1: here's what we've figured out. And I think they're specifically
Speaker 1: looking at Fetterman vas as a place to give this,
Speaker 1: give this a role. Yeah, and the only reason this
Speaker 1: is coming so in Rolling Stone, they were from people
Speaker 1: they were talking to. They said that Trump has been
Speaker 1: talking a lot about this race. Specifically said in recent months,
Speaker 1: Trump has convened a series of in person meetings and
Speaker 1: conference calls to discuss laying the groundwork to challenge the
Speaker 1: two mid term election results. If the Republican OZ does
Speaker 1: not win by wide enough margin to trigger a speedy
Speaker 1: concession from Fetterman, or if the vote tally is close
Speaker 1: on or after election night November, Trump and other Republicans
Speaker 1: are already preparing to wage a legal and activist crusade
Speaker 1: against the quote election integrity of democratic strongholds such as
Speaker 1: the of the area. So, you know, I think as
Speaker 1: it stands, you know, we've alread Trump has already made
Speaker 1: election denial like the de facto way of looking at
Speaker 1: our democracy among Republicans. So check that box. And then
Speaker 1: you add to that the number of straight up Q
Speaker 1: and on freaks that are lining up to take Secretary
Speaker 1: of State positions, and you can see that these people
Speaker 1: and Trump have learned from their last test of the
Speaker 1: perimeter of fences, so to speak, like raptors being like nope, nope, nope, nope,
Speaker 1: what exactly? And we're going And eventually you're gonna have
Speaker 1: people being like clever girl, and democracy crumbles because you
Speaker 1: didn't figure, you didn't nip this ship in the bud
Speaker 1: to begin with. So just like there's another article that
Speaker 1: was in the Daily Beast pointing at this group, the
Speaker 1: America First Secretary of State Coalition, and they're actively selecting
Speaker 1: and propping up election deniers in races for these secretary
Speaker 1: of state positions. So they have tremendous significance on how
Speaker 1: elections are run, you know, and they're now even being
Speaker 1: like conscious of their like rhetoric that they use. They've
Speaker 1: stopped saying the words election fraud. They're now saying election
Speaker 1: tampering because there's a higher standard to prove fraud, like
Speaker 1: they're learning. They're like, okay, ah, then it's tampering because
Speaker 1: fraud is this too charged up, and you've got to
Speaker 1: prove that tampering is adjacent and evokes a similar thing.
Speaker 1: One of the guys who's running this group is a
Speaker 1: Q griffter that some of his followers think is fucking
Speaker 1: JFK JR. Electric Boogaloo Part two come back. So they
Speaker 1: are still not very sophisticated. But the more we learned
Speaker 1: about Jan's January six, we realize that, you know, we've
Speaker 1: seen there was a lot of planning happening, So could
Speaker 1: certainly be another fucking lab experiment for them to refine,
Speaker 1: you know, their their election theft, you know, just just
Speaker 1: one more round before story. I mean, I think part
Speaker 1: of it has to do too with like Fetterman's kind
Speaker 1: of general like populist appeal, you know, to use that
Speaker 1: term loosely, like like Fetterman is a is a threat
Speaker 1: because he's one of the few I think candidates, like
Speaker 1: Democratic candidates who has the I don't know, uh, he
Speaker 1: has the support of people without being the type of
Speaker 1: like Democratic candidate that is easy to overcome because like
Speaker 1: they're the ones that are the right wing can go
Speaker 1: after the easiest or anyone who's like an established politician,
Speaker 1: you know, like Fetterman is not that. Fetterman is an outsider.
Speaker 1: Fetterman is you know, a big strongman, which is the
Speaker 1: scariest thing too, So I don't drop and like that
Speaker 1: kind of guy usually, you know, he would love to
Speaker 1: have on his side. He would love him to be
Speaker 1: a right winger. So I think he sees Fetterman as
Speaker 1: like a threat on a like political level as well
Speaker 1: as seeing like you know, Dr Oz kind of uh
Speaker 1: home exactly. It's like someone cut from the same cloth
Speaker 1: and he's just like this is I want to see
Speaker 1: who wins this. I mean, I wonder I wonder if
Speaker 1: he sees Fetterman as a soft target too for that reason,
Speaker 1: Like will the mainstream that stopped coordinate to stop a Fetterman,
Speaker 1: like stop them from you know, coming together to take
Speaker 1: something away from Fetterman. In this case, like it feels
Speaker 1: like it would be harder to get the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know where I'm getting that from.
Speaker 1: That sounds right, That sounds right to me. He's not
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the establishment credentials or established you know,
Speaker 1: credentials that most like Democratic d n C like operatives,
Speaker 1: like you know, he's someone who's like they can't control.
Speaker 1: He's someone who will you know, has his own thoughts
Speaker 1: and feelings about ship. So I could see that as
Speaker 1: them like would they rally around him? And I think
Speaker 1: I think they would. I do think that the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party is that at least pragmatic enough to want to win,
Speaker 1: you know, actually they have, especially if they want to
Speaker 1: take the Senate. They can't turn their back on that race.
Speaker 1: But I think the other other dimension to it, I think,
Speaker 1: as other people point out, is like this it motivates
Speaker 1: Trump for a number of reasons, the first being like,
Speaker 1: it's his ego because Oz is like one of his picks,
Speaker 1: and I had a lot of ship for being like, no,
Speaker 1: this is the guy. So he's sort of incentivized till
Speaker 1: they'd be like get involved in this race and also
Speaker 1: just to kind of show people again, he's like, if
Speaker 1: he's able to make a huge disruption and any anything's
Speaker 1: affected by that, then he's going to point to that
Speaker 1: to be like, and this is why I should be
Speaker 1: the nominee in obviously, because I can still function up
Speaker 1: and he's looking to do that. It's at this point
Speaker 1: it's pretty clear. Yeah, And how do you, like, what
Speaker 1: is the general consensus of like where we're heading into
Speaker 1: two in terms of like, are there officials in place
Speaker 1: now who are more willing to buy into claims of
Speaker 1: election tampering? Well, I think there's clearly. I mean, there
Speaker 1: was a whole push after to get more people involved
Speaker 1: to work their local elections, and there are there's a
Speaker 1: lot of reporting where election officials are a little concerned
Speaker 1: about the people who are going to be working the
Speaker 1: polls and not knowing what levels of accountability are going
Speaker 1: to be there, because people are newly motivated to be
Speaker 1: like this isn't a real thing. I'm here to fucking
Speaker 1: do dress up mission impossible bullshit in this polling place.
Speaker 1: So the energy for that kind of funckery is there,
Speaker 1: and like, as you mentioned, even like people who are
Speaker 1: like menacing people at ballot boxes to be like, you know,
Speaker 1: being like who do you fucking vote? Mule, like just
Speaker 1: moving a bunch of stuff for Joe Byron. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: that kind of fucked up energy is is a swirling
Speaker 1: around this whole fucking race or this whole election. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's it's definitely something to think about.
Speaker 1: But I think even more than that, like there's also
Speaker 1: in these midterms, a lot of these people that are
Speaker 1: being propped up by this you know America First Secretary
Speaker 1: of State group that are going to be you know
Speaker 1: in places like Arizona or Michigan, New Mexico. Just people
Speaker 1: going like fully on board like with all this Q
Speaker 1: and I'm ideology. I mean like I have to go now,
Speaker 1: I'm going to run the elections in that fucking state. Right,
Speaker 1: So depending on how some of these races play out,
Speaker 1: absolutely like putting pleep like pieces in place for if
Speaker 1: these people aren't like you know it, you know, ran
Speaker 1: out on a rail or something a manage to stay
Speaker 1: in office in the interim. And not only that, but
Speaker 1: like it's it encourages people who might have had second
Speaker 1: thoughts in you know when it was all going down,
Speaker 1: who are like, uh, this is a bridge too far.
Speaker 1: It shows that like, no, this is not a bridge
Speaker 1: too far, and you will be greatly rewarded for, you know,
Speaker 1: for being someone who you know, props up these lies
Speaker 1: and helps to flip the election in favor of Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: So like, you know, I don't think you'll you'd see
Speaker 1: the you know what was that Raethlisberger and Raethlisberger Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and uh was that Kemp in Georgia who were just like, guys,
Speaker 1: this is madness. We lost. I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 1: see that in in and especially if they get their people,
Speaker 1: you know, in secretary of state positions or you know,
Speaker 1: in positions in the state legislature, like they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: have no reason to to to do that to be like,
Speaker 1: hey guys, maybe there's a bridge too far now. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because there's the more people that agreed, it's just more
Speaker 1: that allows for more momentum for those stories to go.
Speaker 1: Because if like normally like yeah, they stole it, normally
Speaker 1: some local persons like nah, and then they had to
Speaker 1: go sort of work against that and find other ways
Speaker 1: to kind of keep the story going. But if they're saying,
Speaker 1: so it was fucking stolen, and then you have local
Speaker 1: people like yes and I saw this and they from
Speaker 1: six years ago. That I'm saying is from tonight on
Speaker 1: election night of someone walking around with a mail bag
Speaker 1: full of ballots. Yeah, like there Q and on and
Speaker 1: like just like all those forums are going to be
Speaker 1: going wild like throughout the election claiming you know that
Speaker 1: they're seeing people steal things and yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: midterms are really uh, you know, we had these norms
Speaker 1: in place of like, yeah, when when it looks like
Speaker 1: you've lost, you reach out, you concede, and like we
Speaker 1: we went to a place where the loser in the
Speaker 1: presidential race like tried to literally steal the election. And
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people at the time we're
Speaker 1: saying this is going to be a like breaking point
Speaker 1: where for this movement and it will look back on
Speaker 1: this with Shaman instead, I think you're it. It's just
Speaker 1: the it's them advancing and doing more testing, and it
Speaker 1: seems like that was just step one and there's there's
Speaker 1: not really much to be done. Yeah, now they're gonna
Speaker 1: keep repeating it over and over. They're gonna keep contesting
Speaker 1: every election. I mean, we're just um, I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be quite a while before we have a
Speaker 1: populist that it believes in election. After it happens, I
Speaker 1: think when we're elderly and we're sifting through the ashes
Speaker 1: of whatever our cities are being, remember that. Yeah. Cool. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I have a child now, Yeah, me too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come
Speaker 1: back and talk about how fun the future of schools are.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and there's there's so there's like kind
Speaker 1: of a full blown moral panic happening now just across
Speaker 1: the country, specifically focused on schools and children. Playing a
Speaker 1: playing an amateur psychologist or psychoanalyst, it feels like this
Speaker 1: is dissonance and like transference, where like parents should be
Speaker 1: and presumably are, at some deep psychological level, worried about
Speaker 1: sending their kids to school at a time when like
Speaker 1: Matt shootings or a thing, and they're channeling that fear,
Speaker 1: which they've decided like hardstop not doing anything about that,
Speaker 1: because that's what makes me, you know, that that gives
Speaker 1: me meaning in my life, that like being able to
Speaker 1: carry a gun into Walmart. So like they've transferred that
Speaker 1: into fear that their children will be traffic, that their
Speaker 1: children will that the teacher, their children's teachers will make
Speaker 1: them trans that they're being brainwashed by a satanic liberal
Speaker 1: media agenda at school. So like you know, fighting over
Speaker 1: the books that are allowed in the library. This mascot
Speaker 1: is not showing dong. Why is this mascot trans My
Speaker 1: My my seventh grader came home and asked, if I've
Speaker 1: had a reckoning with my own privilege, what are they
Speaker 1: teaching these kids? It sounds like satanism? Right, This is
Speaker 1: so I think this is you know, first of all,
Speaker 1: just very common that when you see a generation gap
Speaker 1: and when the younger generation is smarter and more progressive
Speaker 1: than their parents, like the parents are not going to respond. Well,
Speaker 1: they never have. They've had moral panics about like recorded me.
Speaker 1: Like back in the like grammophone days where they were
Speaker 1: like first recording music. They were like, this is going
Speaker 1: to ruin the children. They're just gonna sit there and
Speaker 1: listen to these these damn wax records until the brains
Speaker 1: are running out of their ears. So the idiot music box,
Speaker 1: there's always like parents verse kids misunderstandings. The parents are
Speaker 1: almost always wrong. And then someone records the protocols of
Speaker 1: the Elders of Zion onto one of those wax gramophones.
Speaker 1: This I believe. This, I like right for our generation
Speaker 1: is it was our idiot box. Those video games are
Speaker 1: gonna video violing. Yeah, video games were violent video games
Speaker 1: for sure, We're the thing. And then also like Dungeons
Speaker 1: and Dragons soon before that, and heavy metal music and
Speaker 1: things like that in the eighties. But this, yeah, rapped
Speaker 1: for sure, and this is not uncommon that children are
Speaker 1: the focus of an American moral panic. Also like the
Speaker 1: victims in Salem, the quote victims in Salem where children
Speaker 1: the victims quote in the moral panic over superhero comics,
Speaker 1: which I think are like kind of the two iconic
Speaker 1: ones from history were like child readers. But this this
Speaker 1: Q one. I mean, as we've discussed before, Bannon was like,
Speaker 1: this is how we advanced the agenda is through PTA
Speaker 1: meetings and schools essentially boards, so it's more coordinated, and
Speaker 1: you know, because of the Internet and our phones, it
Speaker 1: can be both like more widespread and like everybody can
Speaker 1: get the same dumb message at the same time. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, we we've had the panic over trans children
Speaker 1: competing in sports, which I guess started with the parents
Speaker 1: of two girls in Utah who came in third and
Speaker 1: second in a event and launched an investigation into the
Speaker 1: gender identity of the girl who won first, and they
Speaker 1: she had been a girl since kindergarten, but they checked
Speaker 1: to make sure. They're like, got you know, I have
Speaker 1: to investigate this child. But so like what should have
Speaker 1: been an embarrassing moment to look in the mirror for
Speaker 1: those parents and people who thought that was a good
Speaker 1: idea turned into a moment for like the Republicans to
Speaker 1: pass laws like like just in case, laws like you
Speaker 1: make sure nobody gets any ideas about trans children competing
Speaker 1: in sports. We've seen arguments over school libraries. We've seen
Speaker 1: arguments over what is taught to children and become and
Speaker 1: they're like to call them arguments, they're just like toxic
Speaker 1: bad faith right tribes and PTA meetings. But there there
Speaker 1: there's a new story about a mural in Michigan. I
Speaker 1: believe that is just it has it all. So a
Speaker 1: sophomore student won a competition to paint a mural in
Speaker 1: her school's health center because she's a great artist and
Speaker 1: her you know, vision for this mural was the most
Speaker 1: popular at her school, and it's when you look at it,
Speaker 1: you're like, this looks like a fucking professionally done right.
Speaker 1: But when at first I was like, I just thought
Speaker 1: of my own, like high school murals. I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: our ship looked like yeah. So the mural included a
Speaker 1: bunch of things that you know, she thought was cool
Speaker 1: that she thought her classmates would I think was cool.
Speaker 1: Students wearing colors found on the l G B t
Speaker 1: Q privat flags, doodles of cartoon characters from Amphibia and
Speaker 1: the Owl House Hamsa, the palm shaped symbol considered to
Speaker 1: bring good luck and protection of many cultures, and some
Speaker 1: video game fan art and parents somehow saw it and
Speaker 1: freaked out and decided the details of the mural were
Speaker 1: problematic and that it needed they needed a public forum
Speaker 1: to make make their allegations. They claimed. One of the
Speaker 1: video game characters those included was a depiction of Satan.
Speaker 1: One of the parents said, when adults pretend things that
Speaker 1: are like real life, it's a mental illness. And the
Speaker 1: fuck I think, you know, when adults pretend things that
Speaker 1: are like real life, like when I think what they's
Speaker 1: what they're saying, is like you, when an adult can't
Speaker 1: tell the difference between reality and something they're making up,
Speaker 1: it's a mental illness. So that that would seem to
Speaker 1: be a parent pointing out that, like, these parents are crazy,
Speaker 1: but she was actually one of the parents who was criticizing,
Speaker 1: and that was that was actually her explanation of trance,
Speaker 1: like being trans as like someone pretending something. But like
Speaker 1: that's where the dissonance comes in. It's like, so there's
Speaker 1: like a part of your brain that is like sending
Speaker 1: signals out that's like and they're just getting scrambled out.
Speaker 1: That's the deep state part of your brain. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a deep state part of your brain that's like trying here.
Speaker 1: That is so funny. The deep state part of your
Speaker 1: brain is just like no, no, you're gonna look like
Speaker 1: an idiot. And you contain altitudes and there's approximately one
Speaker 1: of those multitudes who has good ideas about what's wrong
Speaker 1: with you, and you just took one of their quotes
Speaker 1: and you misused it. Stop taking your own bring out
Speaker 1: of context. Bad faith reading of your own thoughts is
Speaker 1: like pa conservativism in Yeah, so of course this is
Speaker 1: a horrific experience. For this young artist who, like everybody,
Speaker 1: should just be celebrated. This should have been an amazing,
Speaker 1: like first step on their journey to you know, being
Speaker 1: a person who values their own talent envisioned. And instead,
Speaker 1: you know, instead of feeling rewarded and celebrated, she is
Speaker 1: facing just wild, bad faith interpretations. So from this Washington
Speaker 1: Post article, I put my art up there to make
Speaker 1: people feel welcome. She was in tears, unconvinced. One adult
Speaker 1: alleged that Gonzalez was trying to fool the adults at
Speaker 1: the meeting said, I feel like she did a really
Speaker 1: good job finding excuses to defend the things she put on.
Speaker 1: But none of us are that stupid. Presumably right, she's
Speaker 1: saying things like, no, this isn't satanic. I'm I have
Speaker 1: these things there because I want to represent the you know,
Speaker 1: the diversity at the school. How convenient for you to
Speaker 1: have an explanation that doesn't match up with the one
Speaker 1: that is in my Facebook group. Okay, just to your
Speaker 1: point about that one character being satan, it isn't. It's
Speaker 1: actually pretty established existing i P or intellectual property that
Speaker 1: you can look at. In fact, if anything, it probably
Speaker 1: evokes more of like a Japanese style mask more than
Speaker 1: the Western idea or perception of what satan is. So
Speaker 1: you expect me to fall for that? Oh she see,
Speaker 1: she had a real she had a lot of good
Speaker 1: things to say. It's almost like you rehearsed that. You
Speaker 1: think like that you had already conceived of this notion
Speaker 1: before you painted it, which means it was a plan
Speaker 1: from the beginning to accept us with satanistic art. That's
Speaker 1: what it means. I mean again, the dissonance of ending
Speaker 1: that statement with none of us are that stupid is
Speaker 1: just like so it feels again like there's somebody in
Speaker 1: in her brain being like, so fucking stupid. The deep
Speaker 1: state in her brain is like that's the dumbest thing,
Speaker 1: and she's like, nope, it's not stupid. We're not stupid.
Speaker 1: She's having like an argument that stop talking, shot on
Speaker 1: me conscience. I do want to hear like, does does
Speaker 1: this sort of thing happen a lot like psychologists were
Speaker 1: familiar with, like transference and you know dissonance, Like do
Speaker 1: people just like start saying like self owning constantly when
Speaker 1: they're just having so much difficulty like bending their reality
Speaker 1: around to their own beliefs, like they just I mean,
Speaker 1: I wonder if part of this, right is it's like
Speaker 1: anything like conspiratorial thinking, Like you arrived there when you
Speaker 1: realize you have no power over something, Right, that's that
Speaker 1: makes you the most susceptible to that kind of thinking,
Speaker 1: whether you think of your own maybe like financial disenfranchisement
Speaker 1: or other things. I'm sure for parents, right fucking scared
Speaker 1: you talked about fucking school shootings, the fucking climate change,
Speaker 1: whether or not they believe in it, the world is
Speaker 1: changing in ways they are, and I wonder if this
Speaker 1: is like for them They're like, well, I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not really interested in functional ways I can affect change
Speaker 1: in those arenas. The lowest hanging fruit is just for
Speaker 1: me to just go all in on freaking out about
Speaker 1: a fucking mural that I think is satan, and then
Speaker 1: I don't have to actually reckon with some of the
Speaker 1: real bigger existential threats that exist out there for my child. Yeah. Sure,
Speaker 1: we used to call these types of parents just like busybodies,
Speaker 1: Like these were the types of parents who were just
Speaker 1: constantly had some crucade, They constantly had something, and it
Speaker 1: was always in their mind for the benefit of their
Speaker 1: kid and uh, we're just like stop. I understand you
Speaker 1: want to keep yourself busy and you want to feel
Speaker 1: like you've got parenting down, but like fucking chill out
Speaker 1: a little bit. But now everyone's busy body nature is
Speaker 1: being like it's all being focused into these like Facebook
Speaker 1: groups and these you and on groups and all these
Speaker 1: like all these parents are all they're like, hey, so
Speaker 1: uh so I understand you have like a natural urge
Speaker 1: to be like a over involved helicopter parent. Well, now
Speaker 1: there's an existential crisis for you to deal with, and
Speaker 1: so yeah, you know how, you know how you like
Speaker 1: actually hate engaging with your child and treating them like
Speaker 1: a human being with feelings and interested and maybe what
Speaker 1: their thoughts are. Well, we have a really good plan
Speaker 1: for you to feel like you're actually doing something in
Speaker 1: there for their benefit. Completely. Get your head completely fucking
Speaker 1: spun by this bullshit. And it's like we've never had
Speaker 1: this reality where an entire group of previous generations have
Speaker 1: completely failed the general the generations that arising like that
Speaker 1: with with rehers of the climate change point of it,
Speaker 1: and it's so much to take in for the previous
Speaker 1: generations that I feel like they're just we're seeing this, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just denial, just like they're fighting to not accept the
Speaker 1: reality rather than just let it in and have they,
Speaker 1: you know, work in relationship with your children's generation to
Speaker 1: help help them fix a mistake that was made that
Speaker 1: wasn't our fault. We were allied to by massive corporations
Speaker 1: and put you know, like you don't have to you
Speaker 1: don't have to just go full you know, moral panic
Speaker 1: on it. Like there there's a path forward that is
Speaker 1: actually much more rewarding for you and your family if
Speaker 1: we just accept these problems that well, they're still I
Speaker 1: guess in the anger phase of the Googler Ross Greek cycle,
Speaker 1: you know, like denial first. Now it's anger and rage
Speaker 1: at all these other things. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: really hard to watch, you know, like when you realize,
Speaker 1: like I was just watching this video of Carl Sagan
Speaker 1: in talking to a group of people about climate change, right,
Speaker 1: and you think, like a lot of those people in
Speaker 1: that room home are like parents of like millennials or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they were being spoken to by Carl Sagan in
Speaker 1: ninety and he just positive this. He said, how much
Speaker 1: do you think the US spent on Cold War spending
Speaker 1: between nine and n and he's like ten trillion dollars
Speaker 1: And he's like, because of the possibility that the Russians
Speaker 1: would invade, off the fucking chance, right, that we would
Speaker 1: spend ten trillion dollars Off the possibility. What if I
Speaker 1: told you about climate change and every single scientist saying
Speaker 1: this is fucking coming. It's not it might come, or
Speaker 1: it'll just blow over. This is something that they're looking
Speaker 1: at and saying this is a huge fucking threat. We
Speaker 1: don't think we should spend on that. What do you
Speaker 1: think we spend on that? Because that's happening, But for
Speaker 1: the chance of fucking Russia invading or the Soviet Union,
Speaker 1: vanity spend ten trillion dollars. And I think when you
Speaker 1: look at like those moments too, are a lot of
Speaker 1: people and like you could see the people in this room,
Speaker 1: I get it. There was like the relief that maybe
Speaker 1: the Cold War was over and truly there was nothing
Speaker 1: else to worry about in their work. Like you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is really interesting what he's saying, but just like
Speaker 1: laughing it off, and you can see like how there
Speaker 1: were probably moments where you know, like are especially like
Speaker 1: I've heard from my parents about how many times they've
Speaker 1: heard about it, how much they worry about it. When
Speaker 1: I was growing up as a kid, being like, oh,
Speaker 1: we gotta do this, We've gotta be good for the
Speaker 1: environment because I've heard about this climate change thing, and yeah,
Speaker 1: we're in a really and as the news gets more grim,
Speaker 1: I could totally see how some people would rather retreat
Speaker 1: into this thing of like, well, I can do something
Speaker 1: about the pedophile cabals. Now I didn't do anything about
Speaker 1: climate chance and doing anything about these other things, but
Speaker 1: at least I can go all in on this. And
Speaker 1: it's really it's it's just so just so fucked up
Speaker 1: when you know, again, most kids just need parents that
Speaker 1: are going to hear them and treat them like people.
Speaker 1: Like that's like the one thing you hear over and
Speaker 1: over from child development people or anything. They're like, don't
Speaker 1: fucking talk down to your kids, like the like the
Speaker 1: way like you know, our grandparents probably raised our parents
Speaker 1: are like you're the child, and I'm the person who
Speaker 1: just got back from a world war, like make the decisions.
Speaker 1: That doesn't help us grow into healthier people. But yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's like an omni crisis. Yeah, it truly is, and
Speaker 1: I think but I do think like it's all connected, right,
Speaker 1: Like we've never faced something like this global cataclysmic like
Speaker 1: extinction event that is coming and that nobody is nobody
Speaker 1: in power is acknowledging like the the full reality of
Speaker 1: the situation, or they're acknowledging it and just like not
Speaker 1: doing anything about it. And I think that's like what
Speaker 1: whether people like overtly, like outwardly are letting it in,
Speaker 1: like it's getting in and it's going to cause damage,
Speaker 1: And like, I think this ship is all connected. Like
Speaker 1: when we're seeing things go in such a dark direction,
Speaker 1: it's like people people are dealing with stress, the stress
Speaker 1: of like the coming climate apocalypse in their own way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's it's through like I mean, it's actually the
Speaker 1: most logical thing if you think about it in terms
Speaker 1: of like the feeling of power powerlessness that's been internalized
Speaker 1: by all of these you know, right wingers, is just
Speaker 1: it's it's so obvious that that is why they paint
Speaker 1: their worldview in the way that they do. Their entire
Speaker 1: narrative is about the powerlessness that they have. I am
Speaker 1: powerless to stop the cabal. I'm powerless to stop the
Speaker 1: people who are actually pulling the strings, you know, and
Speaker 1: they their entire worldview is based on a deep state
Speaker 1: of pedophilic democrats who are secretly controlling every aspect of
Speaker 1: their lives and trying to infect their kids. So the
Speaker 1: only thing they feel they have any control over is like, well,
Speaker 1: I can stop Satan from getting in the schools, and
Speaker 1: that would be like, I wish that were true. I
Speaker 1: wish the problem was just a like the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: the Satanic group that was making up all the climate
Speaker 1: change stuff, control our money. That would be That would
Speaker 1: be great. That is a smaller, man more manageable problem
Speaker 1: than what we're actually dealing with. So it is, in
Speaker 1: a way wishful thinking, and it's yeah, seductive to fall
Speaker 1: into that too, because rather than being like, wait, what's
Speaker 1: like there's a there's a consolidation of media companies under
Speaker 1: like billionaire ownership that are also involved in like the
Speaker 1: industries that are polluting the earth, So they have asient
Speaker 1: interest to obscure my understanding of it, so we maintain
Speaker 1: the status quo. It's just too much for any one
Speaker 1: person to handle, especially since it's like it's not all
Speaker 1: encompassing enough there, it's they need one simple explanation for
Speaker 1: why things are working out the way that they are,
Speaker 1: and it needs to be sources pulling the strings. It
Speaker 1: needs to be Kanye saying, oh, the Jews have done everything.
Speaker 1: It needs to be Satanism, Like it can't it can't
Speaker 1: be too confusing, and it can't leave any of these
Speaker 1: people with the feeling that they have some sort of
Speaker 1: personal responsibility to elect the right leaders, to listen to
Speaker 1: the right people, you know, and but they don't want
Speaker 1: to do that because they like the red team and
Speaker 1: they hate the Blue team. God, I wish we could
Speaker 1: bring some of these people that everybody listens to, like
Speaker 1: to like infiltrate a meeting of the Church of Satan
Speaker 1: and then just see that it's like five guys in
Speaker 1: Hawaiian shirts, right, you know, just getting drunk, right, just
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, like not anyways, Um, just to close
Speaker 1: the loop on this, because you know, it's these are
Speaker 1: the sorts of things like this, this person shouting down
Speaker 1: a teenager who's explaining what's actually an our work and
Speaker 1: saying none of us are that stupid, while being like
Speaker 1: more stupid than possibly you see, like somehow extra stupid
Speaker 1: but stupid actually it's very specific our level of stupidity.
Speaker 1: But that like I was thinking about how like I
Speaker 1: used to watch the Daily Show a lot, like in
Speaker 1: the early two thousand's, and like they would have interviews
Speaker 1: with these sorts of people that we could laugh at,
Speaker 1: and but this time it worked, and it like works
Speaker 1: in the modern world. The school issued a statement bragging
Speaker 1: that they were going to leave up the mural despite pushback,
Speaker 1: but they also like took the notes from the parents
Speaker 1: and removed the doodle of the Hamza. And that's insane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's insane. It's just like, and this is you know,
Speaker 1: a problem that I have in general with um without
Speaker 1: a lot of these kind of like keep the peace
Speaker 1: people centrists and all that, it's just this kind of
Speaker 1: like okay, okay, we can compromise on this. And it's
Speaker 1: like are we compromising with this stupidity? Are we really
Speaker 1: doing this? Are we compromising with people who are unreasonable?
Speaker 1: That is It's just it's so infuriating, because yes, there
Speaker 1: was a time where just you know, sunlight being the
Speaker 1: great disinfectant, you would just watch someone be stupid and
Speaker 1: laugh at them on the Daily Show and be like, well,
Speaker 1: that'll that's the end of that, and then it just
Speaker 1: goes to show that like, no, man, they are not
Speaker 1: living in the same like media consumption world that we are.
Speaker 1: Like the things that they think are stupid are like
Speaker 1: look at Joe Brandon can't even talk good. It's like fuck, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's just interesting to see how like helplessness works on
Speaker 1: both sides of the political spectrum. Like for people on
Speaker 1: the right, it's like it's easier to get into fucking magical,
Speaker 1: fucked up thinking, and then for like people who are Democrats,
Speaker 1: like we're just fully invested in like D n C
Speaker 1: D triple C way of think looking at it, they're like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, they're doing what they can and also just
Speaker 1: being like because I'm also not going to really reckon
Speaker 1: with what's happening either, Like it's two versions of how
Speaker 1: to reckon or not reckon when really the solution is
Speaker 1: and we can all we have to do is acknowledge
Speaker 1: this and we can do the work. That's it, Like,
Speaker 1: we don't have to you don't have to be like, well,
Speaker 1: why isn't the why are the people on the hill
Speaker 1: handling this because they can't because they fucking can't. They're
Speaker 1: unable to their ideologically not fucking equipped to do it,
Speaker 1: spiritually not equipped to do it, and also their timeline
Speaker 1: on this physical plane isn't one where they understand the
Speaker 1: severity of it. They are the ones who are looking like,
Speaker 1: just worry about my grandkids? Anyway? Should I should I
Speaker 1: start trading this stock that I know about an upcoming
Speaker 1: defense bill? That's anyway, that's for later. You know, It's
Speaker 1: like it's I mean credit where credit is due to
Speaker 1: the fascists of the Republican Party in that they at
Speaker 1: least kind of have organizing principles, even if they're the
Speaker 1: things they are organizing around are like monstrous, they are
Speaker 1: they are getting all of these numb skulls to a
Speaker 1: school board meeting or to a PTA meeting to say
Speaker 1: this nonsense, whereas you have like the d Triple C
Speaker 1: and you have you know, the d n C and
Speaker 1: your local Democratic Party completely ignore anyone who is like
Speaker 1: actual boots on the ground activists and actively suppressing them,
Speaker 1: actively suppressing them because they are so convinced for your
Speaker 1: work that they are like, oh, well they're stupid, and
Speaker 1: no one really, no one really thinks like this. It's
Speaker 1: like you want to fucking bet yeah, you know what's wild.
Speaker 1: I had a conversation with somebody where I was talking
Speaker 1: about unhoused people and their first they they were an
Speaker 1: actual disbelief that my first instinct wasn't get them out
Speaker 1: of my neighborhood. They're like, what do you mean. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: they're They're like they're dangerous. I'm like, that's not my
Speaker 1: first thought when I look at someone who's that destitute.
Speaker 1: My first thought is that's someone who's so fucking destitute.
Speaker 1: I couldn't fucking imagine where it would take from my
Speaker 1: life to be there and m and and like their
Speaker 1: response is like yeah, okay. It was like this sort
Speaker 1: of like yeah, yeah, sure, what do you like? And
Speaker 1: it's so funny when you there are people who are
Speaker 1: actually think or it's easier to just kind of go
Speaker 1: around and be like no one cares about the downtrodden
Speaker 1: at all, because what's weird is to like, generationally, I
Speaker 1: think we see ourselves as being closer to that than
Speaker 1: to where our parents are or are people of older generations.
Speaker 1: We see they're like the writings on the fucking wall
Speaker 1: of three bad things, and you could have nothing. And
Speaker 1: that's why it's upsetting to a lot of people who
Speaker 1: are actually like vocal about this is because it it's
Speaker 1: absolutely registers as a possibility. So therefore you want to
Speaker 1: build a world in which case, if you found yourself
Speaker 1: in an unfortunate circumstance like that, you'd want to live
Speaker 1: in a place that says you're not gonna be fucking
Speaker 1: chased out by some fucking movie producer who wants to
Speaker 1: put boulders on the fucking sidewalk. The first response is, Wow,
Speaker 1: we have to help each other, because that's truly the
Speaker 1: only way, Like you don't we don't leave people behind
Speaker 1: and know how all this other you know, festering to
Speaker 1: occur within like how we interact with each other. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: well Matt, truly pleasure having you. Thank you for coming
Speaker 1: out of your temporary retirement, temporary paternity to do this.
Speaker 1: I'm on sabradical, Sabbradical, sabratical, happy to be here. Thanks
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Speaker 1: the work of social media you've been enjoying. There is
Speaker 1: a tweet that I enjoy I don't want to get
Speaker 1: in trouble for enjoying this tweet. But someone someone was
Speaker 1: writing on Twitter about how they're a d D is
Speaker 1: diagnosis just such that they need to get their food
Speaker 1: delivered otherwise they will buy two hundred dollars worth of
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Speaker 1: have a lot of problems because of this fucking thing
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Speaker 1: I'm not medicated. But buying two worth of candy because
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Speaker 1: think a different psychological issue. I don't think that's a
Speaker 1: d h D necessarily, But anyways, I like that one
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Speaker 1: Fiance Go follow that ship to some tweets that I like.
Speaker 1: First one is uh let's see Julia Claire at Old
Speaker 1: Julia tweets. He said, I never realized how much we
Speaker 1: need OSHA until my best friends started working at a
Speaker 1: haunted hay Ride. And if you know, you know who
Speaker 1: that tweet us about. Another tweet I like is by
Speaker 1: Rohita Condom Kadambi at Rohita Kadambi tweeted, that's a picture
Speaker 1: of Taylor Swift like in this graphic pants too, and
Speaker 1: it says, oh my god, I love Christine Baranska. Do
Speaker 1: look like very very uh you know new Adventures of
Speaker 1: Old Christine vibes there um and then lastly, where is it? Oh,
Speaker 1: we're just talking about video games. Jacob Geller at Jacob
Speaker 1: G four two tweeted unbelieved hobowl moment in the new
Speaker 1: Call of Duty campaign where stalking through a trailer park,
Speaker 1: the game tells you to de escalate a situation, and
Speaker 1: de escalating means pointing your gun directly at civilians. Uh,
Speaker 1: and like this is like you're walking through this like
Speaker 1: freaky park and then the scream comped it'll be like
Speaker 1: aim gun to de escalate. Oh ship, you're right, I
Speaker 1: won't funk with the state, damn. So interesting. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: again shows you it's like we might not learned violence,
Speaker 1: but they're like normalizing the ship. They're like, right, de escalated.
Speaker 1: That's what it means. So wild anyway, shout out to
Speaker 1: that tweet. Sorry a couple tweets I have been enjoying
Speaker 1: Jamie Loft has had Jamie Loft is help tweet a
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