Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty one,
Speaker 1: Episode one of Dirt Nightley's Like Guys Say production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take
Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's scared consciousness. I just did
Speaker 1: that right there, Tope. Because it's Monday, October thirty one, Halloween, baby,
Speaker 1: you are so turned to wow it. Hello, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at me. I'm in my Halloween costume. Yeah, sexy green goblin.
Speaker 1: Sexy green Goblin to see it. You know, I'm a
Speaker 1: bit of a podcast for myself. Um let's see. It's
Speaker 1: also October thirty one, which means Reformation Day. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that has to do with religious stuff, World
Speaker 1: Saving Day, World Cities and whatever. It's sucking Halloween. Man,
Speaker 1: who is putting their national like day of Recognition magic
Speaker 1: on Halloween? Magic? National Magic Day, National Knock Knock Joke Day,
Speaker 1: Like knock knock jokes, knock jokes, you need your own
Speaker 1: day that's not Halloween. I guess that makes sense in
Speaker 1: a trigger treat sense. But so many knock knock jokes
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with Halloween. Guys, Come on, how
Speaker 1: many times you have to tell you this National knock
Speaker 1: knock joke Associational National money Takers to add a sentence
Speaker 1: to a website. People, anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien
Speaker 1: a k. These thighs are crying. These thighs have seen
Speaker 1: a lot of loves, but they're never gonna see another
Speaker 1: one like I had with Do There is courtesy of
Speaker 1: gold John Ion, and I'm thrilled to be joined as
Speaker 1: always by my co host, Mr Miles grad right from
Speaker 1: the murky depths of the San Fernando Valley where people
Speaker 1: were three one oh area code dare not venture comes
Speaker 1: my was Grave and you will be doing the entire
Speaker 1: episode and that spooky Oh yeah, it's I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: it like Paul Bear, who was the Undertaker's hype man. No, well, Miles,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by a true renaissance man. Not in the sense that
Speaker 1: he's an alcoholic who wears tights and doesn't bathe. He
Speaker 1: can do a lot of ship very well, yes that sense.
Speaker 1: He's an actor, songwriter, musician who's co written songs for
Speaker 1: the Ghost of Molly McGee and Tots T O t
Speaker 1: S on Disney Channel and Disney Junior, respectively. And then
Speaker 1: he's in a movie called Barbarian. I'm told we're not
Speaker 1: supposed to talk too much about too much detail. Please
Speaker 1: welcome the brilliant, the talented Matthew Patrick david Thanks for
Speaker 1: having me. All what's up? How you doing? Man? Are
Speaker 1: we so all right? It's gonna be straight with you,
Speaker 1: right right up top. I've watched the first ten minutes
Speaker 1: of Barbarian. Okay, it just came out on so tell
Speaker 1: so tell me the plot. No, no, I know, like,
Speaker 1: this is a movie I have avoided spoilers with for
Speaker 1: the longest. Like it. It's it is the most spoiler tastic.
Speaker 1: Everybody's like, yo, just like, don't find anything out. I
Speaker 1: watched the first ten minutes and still have no idea
Speaker 1: what's happening thus far. A woman has showed up at
Speaker 1: an Airbnb to find with Pete Davidson. I in hot dude.
Speaker 1: So that that's all I got. That's why I was
Speaker 1: so here. Here's my guesses, right because I'm told it's
Speaker 1: gonna keep me guessing on the genre front. I'm guessing
Speaker 1: somebody finally did my idea and you know, shot and
Speaker 1: acted at a level of a major motion picture. But
Speaker 1: it's actually hardcore pornography. Matthew, what what do you am?
Speaker 1: I am? I did? I? Did I nail it? Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't give you spoilers, but yes,
Speaker 1: full penetration is involved. Wow, okay, Jack, you are right. Hey,
Speaker 1: every time you go to Airbnb or like, man, someone
Speaker 1: should fucking one of these, that's right, and they and
Speaker 1: they have. In every Airbnb people have fucked. Just think
Speaker 1: of that when you lie on that bed. How many people? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like it's one of the most popular movies
Speaker 1: of the past five six months, like of the of
Speaker 1: the of the year. Really it's like a sensation. But
Speaker 1: it's also a movie that is under wraps and you
Speaker 1: are not supposed to like talk about it or even like,
Speaker 1: am I even allowed to say you were in it?
Speaker 1: How's that work? I think you can say that, Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: I can say. I'm willing to say that I'm in it.
Speaker 1: I'm unrecognizable. Prosthetics are involved, That's all. That's all I'll say.
Speaker 1: And I play a scary person. We can say that too, Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but you know, beyond that, just watch it and preferably
Speaker 1: not in ten minute increments, and you give it a
Speaker 1: good proper go but you know, live your life. I'm
Speaker 1: doing for Halloween tonight because I have no No one
Speaker 1: comes nearer where I live, freaking me. So I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: let's make it a spooky night for sure four year old,
Speaker 1: a six year old and a wife who doesn't really
Speaker 1: funk with horror. So I gotta get it in where
Speaker 1: I can. But I'm just gonna watch. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back rewind rewatch the first ten minutes and watch it
Speaker 1: all in the dark by myself. There you go tonight
Speaker 1: for Halloween perfect. I like the too, Like Matthew, I've
Speaker 1: seeing other interviews with you where people like have no
Speaker 1: consideration for the audience and they're like, so like, who
Speaker 1: are you in the movie and just explain that out
Speaker 1: loud right now in the plot and everybody. There's one
Speaker 1: where I just say, you'd be like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's uh like a spoiler a word in this interview.
Speaker 1: It's weird. I I don't usually do podcasts, and um,
Speaker 1: I'm only thank you, no no, no, no, I'm raising
Speaker 1: myself like usually I don't like talking about myself, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I love podcasts, and I'm like I don't die,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm I couldn't be interesting, case and
Speaker 1: point right now, I'm rambling, and but but this I
Speaker 1: went to Bulgaria last summer and shot this movie and
Speaker 1: did some of the most insane things with my co
Speaker 1: stars that have ever done, and you know, and I
Speaker 1: love talking about it. But then it's funny. You can
Speaker 1: only really be on spoilery podcasts and ones that aren't spoilers.
Speaker 1: Then you have no stories to tell and you can't
Speaker 1: be interesting, and everyone's like, I think that guy was
Speaker 1: fucking lying about being vague, like noncommittal to stuff he
Speaker 1: didn't even know the plot are his own character. All right,
Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 1: better in a moment because we we we believe you
Speaker 1: are out uninteresting, thank you interesting, So we'll get to
Speaker 1: know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: a couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: a quick update on inflation as it relates to the
Speaker 1: energy industry and climate change, and also an update on
Speaker 1: the climate change report from the U n because the
Speaker 1: New York Times on that same day dropped a an
Speaker 1: article like spiking the football and how well, we've turned
Speaker 1: it all around, which was interesting. So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the mic rib. More importantly, we might
Speaker 1: not talk about any of that climate change ship. We
Speaker 1: might just talk about the mic rib. To be honest
Speaker 1: with you, before we get to any of that bullshit, Matthew,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history? Oh? Alright, so well, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was looking through my search history and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: I really cheat on the New York Times cross word
Speaker 1: a lot. And then I was also like, wow, I
Speaker 1: really um stock people that I see on dating apps
Speaker 1: a lot. Uh stock. It's called due diligence. It's due diligence.
Speaker 1: But what I wanted to I also saw an Espresso
Speaker 1: color pods pod color. I googled that because I was
Speaker 1: in a cabin in Big Bear a couple of weekends ago,
Speaker 1: and there was a jar of espresso pods that were left,
Speaker 1: but I knew some of them were caffeine free, and
Speaker 1: we want that sweet caffeine, so I google block. But
Speaker 1: that brings me to I listened to last yesterday's podcast,
Speaker 1: y'all mentioned something that I wanted to ask you about,
Speaker 1: because that trip was my first time doing mushrooms. Okay,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned yesterday that like baby brain is the
Speaker 1: same as high brain or trip brain or something. Is
Speaker 1: that what you said? That's tell tell, That's just a
Speaker 1: theory I have. So there, you know. One of one
Speaker 1: of the first and most influential things written about psychedelics
Speaker 1: was just out as Huxley doing psychedelics, writing very detailed
Speaker 1: journal about how cool ship looked, but then his like
Speaker 1: kind of theorizing that what happens when you take psychedelics
Speaker 1: is like the doors of perception, like the you know,
Speaker 1: apertures that we've put over our perception, like our brain
Speaker 1: has trained itself into having, are sort of removed or widened,
Speaker 1: so that like all of the sensory input is coming
Speaker 1: in at the same time, which would be similar to
Speaker 1: what it would be like to be a baby. It
Speaker 1: is kind of my theory. Just overwhelmed at input, yes,
Speaker 1: overwhelmed by an input, and like also the beauty of
Speaker 1: like things that we have turned gray with our you know,
Speaker 1: with our doors of perception, so that we're not distracted
Speaker 1: at a traffic light, you know, like so that we're
Speaker 1: we can just like zoom in on whether the right
Speaker 1: the light is redd or green and not be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, the texturing on my dashboard is fucking
Speaker 1: blowing my mind. You know, I see like the glass
Speaker 1: or that that that's behind the traffic light, like the
Speaker 1: lens of it, and it's right right, and then you
Speaker 1: get then you're arrested. Yeah, So what was your experience? Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was like, so I now I think
Speaker 1: I understand what nature tripping means kind of, And it
Speaker 1: did like when I heard you talk about baby brain,
Speaker 1: and it did make me so it did make me
Speaker 1: think about when I was a kid, like laying in
Speaker 1: the backyard looking at the stars and how you know
Speaker 1: that's just a naturally like enjoyable act. And then but
Speaker 1: with the mushrooms, that just gave me like one thousand
Speaker 1: percent zoom and focus and it became I was like
Speaker 1: a baby, just like endlessly fascinated and having a blast
Speaker 1: looking at those stars and the moon and the clouds
Speaker 1: in front of the moon. It was like a three
Speaker 1: act play. Because I think a lot of it is
Speaker 1: to do with connectedness, right, is like we it it
Speaker 1: opens us up to for the possibility to connect to things.
Speaker 1: That's why, like I think the real the thing from
Speaker 1: culture would be like when people are at a rave
Speaker 1: and doing like like psychedelics or like mushrooms or ecstasy
Speaker 1: or whatever, they're more suddenly like, oh my god, come here,
Speaker 1: I love you kind of a thing. And that's sort
Speaker 1: of like, you know how our brains slightly open more
Speaker 1: to being like more connective and like to your point,
Speaker 1: like when you look at stuff, especially in nature, you
Speaker 1: suddenly like rushed back and you're like, man, I'm a
Speaker 1: fucking terrestrial being, and I'm like, yes, this, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: This is actually fantastic what is all around me? But yeah,
Speaker 1: like to Jack's point, to our focus is kind of
Speaker 1: comes in because of life or work or whatever, and
Speaker 1: you sort of like lose all these things as you
Speaker 1: get older. Yeah, and and nature is already worthy of attention,
Speaker 1: you know, but then it just like gives you super
Speaker 1: attention on it. Yeah. Right, just getting out away from
Speaker 1: if you live in a city, and getting out away
Speaker 1: from the city, I'm looking at the stars. It's pretty
Speaker 1: mind blowing you that's already. Yeah, you hurt your neck
Speaker 1: because you're like, damn, this is what it's like without
Speaker 1: all that light pollution. Yeah, what is something you think
Speaker 1: is overridd ironic applause at the Nicole Kidman a m
Speaker 1: c ad. It's so true. The they're they're giving AMC
Speaker 1: the wrong message. AMC now thinks people love it. They're
Speaker 1: gonna make a new one. They in the process exactly.
Speaker 1: It's never going away. When it first came out, I
Speaker 1: was like, this will be here mercifully for a short
Speaker 1: period of time. This is just about getting people back
Speaker 1: in the theaters. But no, now it's the new AMC
Speaker 1: Clippy you know or what. And and now they're like
Speaker 1: putting it at the end like I think before they
Speaker 1: would like put it before the trailers, and now they're
Speaker 1: like treating it like the grand finale before the last movie.
Speaker 1: I went to, oh, you mean the last like the
Speaker 1: final trailer before I thought credit actually right before were
Speaker 1: the climax of the movie. Yeah, they went act like
Speaker 1: after the trailers when I'm really ready like that, I'm
Speaker 1: I know I'm old because the trailers like I'm like,
Speaker 1: I love a movie trailer, but I'm still like now
Speaker 1: checking my watch being like, yo, this is is that
Speaker 1: we're we're going on a half hour here before Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the cool Kidman and I'm just I'm like
Speaker 1: not here for it, but everybody else is ironically like
Speaker 1: whoo yeah Nicole Kidman, and I enjoy it. Like I
Speaker 1: enjoy it. I I do think it's time to move
Speaker 1: move past it and just let a MC know how
Speaker 1: we really feel. Yeah, it's part of our like just
Speaker 1: us going like losing our minds because I remember when
Speaker 1: we all went as like a crew to go see
Speaker 1: Elvis in the theater and like then a Coole Kidman
Speaker 1: thing came on, we all lost our ship. We're just
Speaker 1: like it's just like it wasn't even like applause, like
Speaker 1: it just turned into total mania. But I think most
Speaker 1: of that is just to do with the fact that,
Speaker 1: like we're just taking cues from like the ship posts
Speaker 1: we've seen on Twitter tune. We're all real time ship posters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's better than taking all the beauty of the
Speaker 1: world in, is that we have this aperture that has
Speaker 1: allowed us to just really tightly focused and turned the
Speaker 1: world around us into a Twitter feed that we get
Speaker 1: to ship post on. Right perfect, I think, off, yes,
Speaker 1: what do you think is the way forward? Do you
Speaker 1: think we should hits at the people who are applauding
Speaker 1: or just be like, come on, I think I think
Speaker 1: some active boots. Yeah, that would really let the message
Speaker 1: be told. So you know, you see the Seletto heel
Speaker 1: in the puddle. I like that as long as we
Speaker 1: get to as I think that. For me, it's just
Speaker 1: that I want to yell at the screen at something
Speaker 1: and I still have that Catharsis Yeah, yeah, but it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be giving an AMC the wrong message, right right right,
Speaker 1: And I'm fine just getting some ship out like that
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with AMC. And I've verbalized that too.
Speaker 1: And what serious the prophets? They're out of control. My
Speaker 1: dad never loved me. Yeah, what's What's something you think
Speaker 1: is underrated? Well, I guess on movies. So one of
Speaker 1: the best movies I saw this year, aside from Barbarian
Speaker 1: I love to talk about it, but we can't talk
Speaker 1: about it, but we It is a movie that exists
Speaker 1: on HBO Maximum exactly the Maximum maxim was a movie
Speaker 1: called Marcel the Shell with Shoes On. Are you familiar
Speaker 1: with the You saw the movie? Yeah? Yeah, it had
Speaker 1: no business. I mean I knew it would be funny,
Speaker 1: but it was like deep and it was about loss
Speaker 1: and grief and like loneliness, and uh, I just thought
Speaker 1: I laughed and I also like cried tears and snot
Speaker 1: into my mask, and yes, which is disgusting. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: that I said that. No, I mean that's just I
Speaker 1: think it's a good indicator of how touched you were.
Speaker 1: So I know I remember this short when it came on,
Speaker 1: and right, yes, so like we love Jenny Slate and
Speaker 1: it's a Dean Fleischer camp, right, who like is behind that? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen I haven't seen the actual feature film. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really good. It's it made me think of like
Speaker 1: what a Pixar movie for adults, like with with practical effects,
Speaker 1: but like just the everything is like adorable, but also
Speaker 1: like has like really depth and interesting philosophical ideas and performances.
Speaker 1: Is very good and also like a wild story that
Speaker 1: that they made that after being like they made the
Speaker 1: original shorts together while they were a married couple, then
Speaker 1: made the the feature length film after they were divorced,
Speaker 1: and like there's an interesting subtext that like they're not
Speaker 1: it's not accidental. It's like kind of running through the
Speaker 1: whole thing of like he he's a character, she's Marcel,
Speaker 1: but like there's just a sweetness to their relationship. That's
Speaker 1: and his his character has just gone through a breakup. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, And is this are they talking about like
Speaker 1: their real breakup in this movie? Ye because I think
Speaker 1: I mean that it took like eight years to make,
Speaker 1: so I think they started and we're together and but
Speaker 1: by the end of it were divorced. But like, like
Speaker 1: but they soldiered through and just became pivoted to being
Speaker 1: just collaborators. Yea, for them, breakups something to aspire to, like,
Speaker 1: you know, just like fully feeling all the feelings of
Speaker 1: the breakup and being like sad about it, but just
Speaker 1: treating that as like, you know, something you share with
Speaker 1: one another. So it's a lot of money, man, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe we can get over that ship. I know we
Speaker 1: signed that deal, that development deal when we were together,
Speaker 1: but like, let's not sunk this up. Yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: but I'm glad. I'm glad it turned out fantastically. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Tom Brady. All right, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. And we're back and yeah,
Speaker 1: there there was some interesting economic news from the end
Speaker 1: of last week that I didn't want to let just
Speaker 1: fly by because you know, we were talking about there
Speaker 1: was a EU report or sorry, it was a u
Speaker 1: N report about how global warming emission cuts are at,
Speaker 1: like the emissions cuts are at one percent and need
Speaker 1: to be at for it not to be a situation
Speaker 1: where lots of people die and like entire nations are disrupted.
Speaker 1: And around that same time, Shell PLC, which is like
Speaker 1: the Shell Oil Company's new name, announced that they had
Speaker 1: seen double the profits year over year for the latest quarter.
Speaker 1: They have so much money on hand that they are
Speaker 1: buying back four billion dollars of their own stock, which
Speaker 1: if you know what that means, that just means that
Speaker 1: they are making their stock price higher. So they're like,
Speaker 1: we're going to invest this money in making ourselves richer.
Speaker 1: The people who are rich. We are making ourselves richer
Speaker 1: for a while. Yeah, good for them, right, Yeah. So
Speaker 1: in no one certain terms, they raised prices, not because
Speaker 1: they had to, but in order to you know, it
Speaker 1: wasn't like to stay solvent. It was because there was
Speaker 1: the perception that gas prices were going to go up
Speaker 1: and they were allowed to jump on that. And because
Speaker 1: we can't do ship as consumers of gasoline, you know,
Speaker 1: they have something that they call in elastic demand, which
Speaker 1: just means like, hey, they can't do ship and the
Speaker 1: government no longer has any control over them thanks to
Speaker 1: years of deregulation. Like Biden issued a statement at the
Speaker 1: end of last week being like they're misusing their profit.
Speaker 1: But again it's you know, we we keep going back
Speaker 1: to the fact that like he came into office and
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, I can't like do anything like
Speaker 1: if if you look at his term, he really seems
Speaker 1: like the overwhelming impression and like sentiment that you get
Speaker 1: from him is like, God, damn it, I can't that
Speaker 1: nobody's listening to me. I can't I can't make any changes. Well,
Speaker 1: the one thing that he was he threatened was like
Speaker 1: you could tax those profits. You absolutely could, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it's like it's one of these
Speaker 1: things where it's like, you know, the FTC could get
Speaker 1: involved and investigate price gouging. People are like for that,
Speaker 1: but then it's just like the political will and know
Speaker 1: it's like a good talking point, but the follow through
Speaker 1: is like just embarrassing, right, yeah, and then the top
Speaker 1: comment on like I saw this everywhere, but like Yahoo article,
Speaker 1: the top comment is about is someone being like, I
Speaker 1: see that people without any knowledge of economics are like
Speaker 1: rushing into criticize this, but you know, using the ideas
Speaker 1: of like inflation and all all these like market forces too,
Speaker 1: you know, that dynamic of you just don't understand how
Speaker 1: complex this is is I think one of the big
Speaker 1: factors that work here when we talk about climate or
Speaker 1: when we talk about inflation, this idea that there is
Speaker 1: this complex machine that we don't understand. And even though
Speaker 1: it seems pretty obvious that people are raising prices and
Speaker 1: everybody is getting fucked except for them, and they're getting
Speaker 1: to take that money and make themselves even richer than
Speaker 1: they already are, Like that seems pretty straightforward, but there
Speaker 1: there is this, like there's this barrier of understanding that
Speaker 1: they lean on again and again of just being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that you don't understand, just leave it to the experts.
Speaker 1: And I think that and I think that has a
Speaker 1: lot to do with like the state that we find
Speaker 1: ourselves in where people feel just like helpless and like
Speaker 1: they're just like yeah, I mean like because a lot
Speaker 1: of times, like we blame ourselves for being like feeling
Speaker 1: disconnected or like not doing more. And I think we
Speaker 1: need to acknowledge, like what are the things that are
Speaker 1: making it so that we feel like we can't do more?
Speaker 1: And and I think this is it. Like the these
Speaker 1: these results, these economic results are reported mainly in just
Speaker 1: like the business page, and the c e O s
Speaker 1: are quoted like credulous, lee and admiringly about like how
Speaker 1: they navigated this to like get maximum profits and like
Speaker 1: control expenditure. And it's just, you know, nobody, nobody is
Speaker 1: acknowledging like the connection between that and then the big
Speaker 1: story on the front page that's like inflation and climate
Speaker 1: change are both you know, harming the vast majority of
Speaker 1: the globe, while these people are you know, the cause
Speaker 1: of it is that these people are unwilling to do
Speaker 1: anything that won't make them richer and richer the idea
Speaker 1: like right with I just want to talk like with Shell, right,
Speaker 1: they've been pretty clear from the beginning that they're like
Speaker 1: they're not they're not being harmed as a business because
Speaker 1: when they talk internally or to shareholders, like the head
Speaker 1: of Shell was talking about how the Russian invasion was
Speaker 1: like great for business on all said quote the performance
Speaker 1: we are seeing this quarter, of course, has been helped
Speaker 1: by the Macro, and the Macro has been impacted by
Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine. It's nothing to do with like
Speaker 1: help us thanks war. No, they're like, and we'll just
Speaker 1: take that and put that over here into our pockets
Speaker 1: because all the time, like they're all the oil and
Speaker 1: gas and she's like, we need more licenses to drill.
Speaker 1: You don't, you don't, you don't. You're like there's like
Speaker 1: this false sense of like, man, this is the only
Speaker 1: way we can keep prices stables, like if you allow
Speaker 1: us to drill more and find more ways to like
Speaker 1: extract more fossil fuels, etcetera, etcetera. Meanwhile, they're like, man,
Speaker 1: we doubled our profits last year. Holy sh it. And
Speaker 1: you and you ask yourself for all the talk of
Speaker 1: like well we can't you know, do this, that and
Speaker 1: the other because of all the regulations. It's like, you
Speaker 1: have all the profits you've made as a company to
Speaker 1: you know, like invest them back into your fucking company.
Speaker 1: But there's no, there's no the intention for that is
Speaker 1: absolutely gone. It's just like, nah, let's just buy back
Speaker 1: the stock. Let's just let's help enrich the shareholders, and
Speaker 1: we can just keep up this sort of charade of
Speaker 1: like it's on the brink. Man. We're like, we're really
Speaker 1: struggling here as an industry. Okay, here's like four billion dollars, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think did you see uh Biden's tweet today.
Speaker 1: I think it was to the X on ceo or whatever,
Speaker 1: because the X and CEO was saying, you know, we're
Speaker 1: hearing that we should give some money back to the
Speaker 1: people with our profits, and we are, we're giving the
Speaker 1: stock dividends. And then Biden's like, I can't believe I
Speaker 1: have to say this, but giving money to people that
Speaker 1: own your stock is not exactly like giving to the
Speaker 1: every man. Well, we're giving it to every man that
Speaker 1: owned stock. We're Robin hood, got you, Biden. He's kind
Speaker 1: of like the logic we constantly see. It's really it is.
Speaker 1: It is really hard to watch. And I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: like to your point, Jack of like what happens? What
Speaker 1: do we do? What's going on? We're like we also
Speaker 1: talk about, like the New York Times how they also
Speaker 1: have a hand in me like yeah, let me yes,
Speaker 1: and also let me obscure what's going on to because
Speaker 1: of also just the nature of how our media is,
Speaker 1: you know, fossil the fossil fuel industry has a direct
Speaker 1: line into every newspaper to publish it, like and mostly
Speaker 1: through like sponsored content, but still they still have a
Speaker 1: hand in that, which makes it even more insidious when
Speaker 1: you're like trying to also be like don't worry, chill out,
Speaker 1: chill out. And also here's some spahn con from Exxon.
Speaker 1: Spun con from Exxon. Yeah, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: the people who work at the New York Times, you know,
Speaker 1: you a lot of a lot of those people get
Speaker 1: there from having unpaid internships and you know, probably went
Speaker 1: to Ivy League schools with a lot of the people
Speaker 1: who are these like masters of the global economy, and
Speaker 1: I think they're just inside this worldview that makes them
Speaker 1: incapable of just like taking a step back and being
Speaker 1: like we're facing a World War two level challenge, Like
Speaker 1: that's the last time that everybody had a challenge that
Speaker 1: was like you know, existential, and everyone has to mobilize,
Speaker 1: everyone has to coordinate, and instead these motherfuckers are like
Speaker 1: doing the opposite in order to enrich themselves. Like that
Speaker 1: that's bad, but they like the there is just this
Speaker 1: like interconnected web of like you know, marketing and investment
Speaker 1: and finance. That just makes it sort of it's like
Speaker 1: impossible to pierce, you know, it's you can't get through it.
Speaker 1: And and I think it leads to a lot of
Speaker 1: just feelings of helplessness and confusion. And then people with
Speaker 1: that confusion, you know, either to you know, keep digging
Speaker 1: and keep pushing, or you know, fascism becomes an easy
Speaker 1: answer where we just like have someone to look at
Speaker 1: and be like that that's the bad guy, because somebody's
Speaker 1: at least giving me a bad guy to root against.
Speaker 1: Like it's interesting me, Like, no oil CEOs. I was like,
Speaker 1: let me like look up Darren Woods and Mike Worth,
Speaker 1: like these CEOs of these energy companies, and they're just
Speaker 1: I've never seen their pictures before. I've never really a
Speaker 1: good reason heard them like mentioned that often other than
Speaker 1: if I like go digging on the business page and
Speaker 1: reports about how well they're doing their job, and it's
Speaker 1: just like, no, we we need villains. People need villains
Speaker 1: to understand this, and the mainstream media is just kind
Speaker 1: of ignoring their role as storytellers to to make sense
Speaker 1: of this. It feels like in a lot of ways,
Speaker 1: well they tell stories through like I said, spot Con,
Speaker 1: you know, like like the New York Times, I think
Speaker 1: really has they they got to take a real long
Speaker 1: look in the mirror. But that's all the time. But
Speaker 1: I think for them to you know, published stuff, like
Speaker 1: if they always say stuff like we put out the
Speaker 1: most content about climate change without really being honest about
Speaker 1: their like what they do for like fossil fuel financed
Speaker 1: content within the paper. It's kind of a bad look.
Speaker 1: You know. They have this thing called T Brand Studios,
Speaker 1: which is their custom content advertiser like studio, like any
Speaker 1: company has, like the thing where they do we'll do
Speaker 1: stuff with branded branded content. And they actively make this
Speaker 1: like native advertising for like x on, Shell, Chevron, and
Speaker 1: the ads look like like New York Times editorial pieces,
Speaker 1: Like it's the same font package, everything stylistically looks the same.
Speaker 1: You'll see a bug at the top that does say
Speaker 1: this is an advertisement. But again, the like the posts
Speaker 1: just completely misrepresent what the companies are actually doing. So
Speaker 1: like one will be for like Shell and it will
Speaker 1: say like, yeah, looking into you know, bio fuel, Sorry,
Speaker 1: x on mobiles looking into bio fuel research and et etcetera, etcetera,
Speaker 1: to sort of make it seem like yeah, x On
Speaker 1: is actually all in on figuring out how we get
Speaker 1: out of this when they're not like in these companies aren't.
Speaker 1: Everything they're doing is saying, let's get the let's get
Speaker 1: as much money as possible, and let's not make the
Speaker 1: same mistake the tobacco industry did, which was to like
Speaker 1: allow the narrative to get out of our control. And
Speaker 1: look what happened there. Yeah, and they like, it's not
Speaker 1: just that they are like putting these articles up that
Speaker 1: might full people, but those articles are extraordinarily lucrative for
Speaker 1: the New York Times. They're the thing that funds the
Speaker 1: New York Times. So is the New York Times then
Speaker 1: going to turn around and be like, here are the
Speaker 1: faces of the enemy. Here's Mike Worth. Yeah, here's Mike Worth.
Speaker 1: He is the one who is on a day to
Speaker 1: day basis, you know, choosing instead of instead of choosing
Speaker 1: to take these record profits and invest them back into
Speaker 1: renewables and like change the landscape of how you know
Speaker 1: the world has power. He is you know, buying back
Speaker 1: stock so that his shareholders are happy, so that he
Speaker 1: can continue to be paid you know, thousands of times
Speaker 1: more than you know, most CEOs throughout history would reasonably
Speaker 1: be able to pay themselves without being ashamed. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 1: We need to like have like a deck of cards
Speaker 1: that has all the fossil fuel executives on it like
Speaker 1: they did would in the day. These are the people
Speaker 1: in the teleband deck of cards, where it's like just
Speaker 1: so you know, just get familiar with the people who
Speaker 1: are decision makers and a lot of this stuff, who
Speaker 1: are have a real active role in whether obscuring your
Speaker 1: understanding of climate change or saying like fuck it, like
Speaker 1: just cut the brakes on this thing and let's just
Speaker 1: keep going. Yeah. There's a big New York Times magazine
Speaker 1: feature that came out at the end of last week
Speaker 1: into like right in line with the u N Report,
Speaker 1: and it's basically like, yeah, it'll be bad for some people,
Speaker 1: but not everyone, such as life, our entire civilization won't end,
Speaker 1: you know, leaving out the importance some civilizations will end
Speaker 1: part of the equation, and just like our entire global world.
Speaker 1: You know, it's basically like taking the worst case scenarios
Speaker 1: that people were saying, like five ten years ago was
Speaker 1: possible if we did nothing, and being like, man, it's
Speaker 1: not that bad. We're not going up by five degrees celsius.
Speaker 1: We're only going up by two two degrees celsius. First
Speaker 1: of all, we have to continue to make big changes
Speaker 1: in order to cut it to just two degrees celsius.
Speaker 1: But two degree celsius is going to like destroy the
Speaker 1: ability for people to live in their home country, like
Speaker 1: entire countries. Like it's yeah, it's going to flood the
Speaker 1: like lots of places where people have been living for
Speaker 1: generations and generations, is going to make life brutally hard,
Speaker 1: and it's going to kill a lot of people. And
Speaker 1: that's some people, Jack, That's some people. And that seems
Speaker 1: to be the thesis of the article. Is like when
Speaker 1: you take a step back, though, it's like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: people die, and it's right. It's it's interesting that this
Speaker 1: came out in line with you and report. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you guys brought this up because I get
Speaker 1: the daily you know, New York Times email thing that
Speaker 1: kind of his assumpation of the paper, and uh, as
Speaker 1: a lazy reader, I often will read that email and
Speaker 1: not read the articles, you know, but even what they
Speaker 1: put in that email was still like the subject line
Speaker 1: was the climate's improved future I was like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: so we got some good news on the horizon. That's great.
Speaker 1: And then uh and then in the little the clip
Speaker 1: in the email, it said, uh, a new world well
Speaker 1: past climate normal. Alright, so it's well past climate normal
Speaker 1: and yet mercifully short of true climate apocalypse. Right, so
Speaker 1: brained this like optimistic message. It's uh yeah, it was
Speaker 1: very strange. I'm glad you guys pointed that out, because
Speaker 1: I yeah, yeah, wait, wait, wait what I mean? This
Speaker 1: weird the wrong side to subdue people when drastic action
Speaker 1: is needed. Yeah, and for lazy readers like myself, many
Speaker 1: people could just go, oh great, it's fixed. Okay, so
Speaker 1: it's not that bad. No no, no, no, no, no, no
Speaker 1: no no. The fucking scientists are like, hey, assholes, you're
Speaker 1: falling woefully short here. Yeah. And for a long time
Speaker 1: I relied on The New York Times too, Like it's
Speaker 1: only through like having to do this show every day
Speaker 1: and paying attention to all these stories that I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: there they really is like what the cynical people like.
Speaker 1: What I used to think was sort of like people
Speaker 1: just being doom and gloom and you know, like I
Speaker 1: just thought if the New York Times said it was
Speaker 1: good enough, it's good enough, and it's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: The New York Times is a for profit institution funded
Speaker 1: by these massive, multibillion dollar energy companies, and that's that's
Speaker 1: where this messaging is is coming from. You know, it's
Speaker 1: not like they're coming out and completely telling the shell
Speaker 1: version of things. They're acknowledging there is a problem, but
Speaker 1: they are putting a like kind of polish on it
Speaker 1: that makes it seem like, hey, guys, where you can
Speaker 1: you can kind of ease up on the on the concern. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just interesting, like when The New York Times
Speaker 1: banned when they said they wouldn't do tobacco advertising anymore, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were. They weren't being like, it's not because it's
Speaker 1: an activist thing, it's a journalism thing. Like we're not
Speaker 1: gonna we're not going to pretend that this product won't
Speaker 1: cause terrible health outcomes and then profit from that. And
Speaker 1: people at the time we're like, wow, okay, cool, The
Speaker 1: Guardian doesn't take any money from the fossil fuel industry,
Speaker 1: and like they drew a line there and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's completely fucked up. Like we we've identified this indus three,
Speaker 1: as you know, directly relating to a lot of the
Speaker 1: terrible pollution issues that we have. And like now with
Speaker 1: its people asked The Times, We're like, well what about this,
Speaker 1: Like it's established what fosse burning fossil fuels is doing
Speaker 1: to the earth and that's terrible for people's safety and health.
Speaker 1: Why not the same standards anymore? And I think that's
Speaker 1: really telling, especially like when like it was it was
Speaker 1: it still owned by who owns The Times now not Salzburger,
Speaker 1: but before like the previous owners were talking about like
Speaker 1: the science is dense, a billionaire faith bindeness. I can't
Speaker 1: between other than Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos. That's that's
Speaker 1: all my brain has room for. Yeah, and so I
Speaker 1: think what we're seeing, oh no, it still is the
Speaker 1: Salzburgers Like so it there's just this they found a
Speaker 1: way to rhetorically change, like change the goal posts as
Speaker 1: to why like fossil fuel money is different than tobacco money,
Speaker 1: and it's again it's truly at our own peril, Like
Speaker 1: when the whole point of being able to inform people
Speaker 1: is to just say, like this is quite literally what
Speaker 1: is going on? Yeah, and it's and it's understandable. It's not.
Speaker 1: It's not a like web of like algorithms and things
Speaker 1: that you couldn't possibly understand, So don't even bother. It's understandable.
Speaker 1: Inflation is understandable. I just had to go to the
Speaker 1: Guardian to find to find the only understandable explanation for
Speaker 1: which is that the narrative of inflation allows c e
Speaker 1: o s to raise prices and they're just making more
Speaker 1: money if you just connect, like they're raising prices and
Speaker 1: then you go to their like earnings calls and they're like,
Speaker 1: we're making way more money. We raised our prices. We're
Speaker 1: making twenty more profit. It's sucking, it's amazing. But again,
Speaker 1: like the the Guardian, a UK paper, has made that
Speaker 1: change where they're not accepting money from these corporate donors
Speaker 1: who are corporate interests who want to obscure that, and
Speaker 1: they're the one place you can go to like actually
Speaker 1: find someone making sense of it. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: a I don't think that's a mistake. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: well enough of that ship. Let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and we'll come back and talk about the mac rib
Speaker 1: Thank god, and we're back and the make rib is
Speaker 1: coming back to McDonald we go away again for what
Speaker 1: quote might be the last time did they say that
Speaker 1: every time about the mac rib. There have been multiple
Speaker 1: farewell tours for the make First. First off, do Matthew,
Speaker 1: you do eat the macrib? Ever, I have never eaten one,
Speaker 1: never even had iver a make rib. Oh, Miles, you
Speaker 1: would love the Mick rib man. Really yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: like so the oh well, let me tell you why.
Speaker 1: Like the reasons from my perception right when I first
Speaker 1: heard of it as somebody who grew up in a
Speaker 1: barbecuing family, Like, the word rib has a quite literal
Speaker 1: meaning to me. So when I heard of the Mick Rib,
Speaker 1: I'm like, and I saw it on the thing, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you can just bite the bones and ship right, because
Speaker 1: they do like crafted into a sponge that has bone
Speaker 1: shapes like bone mark, Yeah, bone from gradiation and that's
Speaker 1: and that's their logo for it is you can bite
Speaker 1: the bones. Yeah, And I'm like, so that always put
Speaker 1: me off, the simulated bones. I was like, that's weird.
Speaker 1: I love simulated bones. But good, that's me. No matter what,
Speaker 1: no matter when it's a it's it's real. Mushy is
Speaker 1: the thing that you don't expect. It's like it gives you,
Speaker 1: I think, more than any other piece of McDonald's meat.
Speaker 1: It gives you the sense of like your The reason
Speaker 1: I was saying you might like it is because of
Speaker 1: your taste and fries, which is you like you like
Speaker 1: the when you when you eat a fry, you like
Speaker 1: for it to be like falling apart in your hand
Speaker 1: as you just like fling it into your mouth. That's
Speaker 1: kind of the vibe you get from the make rip. No. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the like mushy meat, Yeah, I don't like what is it?
Speaker 1: Like a floppy foam is kind of the but but
Speaker 1: it's all it's it's the whole thing is kind of
Speaker 1: in just delivering a impressionistic take of like what barbecue
Speaker 1: would be in the mind of an alien, you know,
Speaker 1: to two thousand years after humanity and all of our
Speaker 1: you know, they they've just read about it, and this
Speaker 1: is like an impression of like we we think this
Speaker 1: is what they were doing with with that. It has
Speaker 1: the essence of smoke and meat. It just doesn't have
Speaker 1: any of that. Really, I guess it is made of pork, right,
Speaker 1: It just has such lab experiment vibes. Yes, when I
Speaker 1: look at it, I'm like, Okay, who thought this ship
Speaker 1: up and thought that was like a good thing to eat? Well,
Speaker 1: we I can tell you. So. First of all, the
Speaker 1: people who thought up the marketing farewell tour is the
Speaker 1: music industry, which that that was my first thought when
Speaker 1: I saw, Oh, they're doing another farewell tour. This reminds
Speaker 1: me of like every Rolling Stones tour when the last
Speaker 1: time the Eagles the Rolling Stones. The share apparently has
Speaker 1: done like dozens of farewell tours. So, but as for
Speaker 1: the history of the mcribb, it was first developed utilizing
Speaker 1: military technology to restructure meat for soldiers. Well, my restructure
Speaker 1: meat for soldiers. Yes, I'm getting hungry, Yeah, yama, yamma.
Speaker 1: Go on, So why why haven't they used uh, you know,
Speaker 1: they also made food for space food. You ever eaten
Speaker 1: that space food? Space food vibes, crunchy foam, you know.
Speaker 1: I also use that for for McDonald's things more often.
Speaker 1: I think, is this reminds me of that? It reminds
Speaker 1: me of like I just watched two thousand one Space
Speaker 1: Obyssey again and they have that scene where they're like
Speaker 1: going to the moon base and they're like they've really
Speaker 1: like gotten the feel of regular food. As they're eating
Speaker 1: the sandwiches, they're like, this is chick like. It kind
Speaker 1: of feels like that. It's like, Oh, they've done a
Speaker 1: pretty good job using just the restructured concept of meat.
Speaker 1: Or isn't that what chicken nuggets are too? It's just
Speaker 1: like this goop. I was just gonna say, like, chicken
Speaker 1: nuggets definitely feel more like you're getting chicken like. They
Speaker 1: feel more like you can sense the presence of chicken
Speaker 1: more in a chicken nugget then you can sense the
Speaker 1: presence of ribs in a micrib. I feel they're so
Speaker 1: chicken nuggets to me, or like its own food group
Speaker 1: in a way. I'm like, yeah, fried chewy nugs with
Speaker 1: meat flavor. I think mac rubb pulls pushes it even
Speaker 1: further in the direction of new food group. Got it.
Speaker 1: It comes out in two and it is a huge flop.
Speaker 1: It's premiered in eight two and immediately starts disappearing in
Speaker 1: a D two three. The mcribb is basically gone, except
Speaker 1: it will reappear suddenly in some places, only to disappear
Speaker 1: again with no one really knowing how or why. Right
Speaker 1: then comes the flint Stones, movie in the nine nineties
Speaker 1: and John like John Goodman, great Philip Yes, Rose O'donald
Speaker 1: Rose O'donald, thank you? Who was the other? Oh? Sorry,
Speaker 1: just to say it was Elizabeth Perkins was Wilma okay,
Speaker 1: rosiodoxins Berry was Sharon Stone? Was her name? That's right,
Speaker 1: Halle Berry, Sharon Stone? That was her? Like Stone Stone's name.
Speaker 1: Did they try and cast Sharon Stone and like have
Speaker 1: to recast at the last moment? I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think maybe it was just like it was such a
Speaker 1: nineties film that they're like, this is a great name
Speaker 1: to a folk because it has a rock word in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's a pun. Oh yeah, no, it works. It
Speaker 1: works for me, but it is weird to be like,
Speaker 1: and halle Berry as Sharon Stone does sound like we
Speaker 1: sentenced to say. But so they bring it back for
Speaker 1: that and wait, so wait is the Mick ribs supposed
Speaker 1: to be dinosaur ribs because you know, Fred flint Stone
Speaker 1: would eat giant bronosaurus ribs. And so they were like
Speaker 1: there you go, like that's the thing, and this is
Speaker 1: going to be the biggest hit movie of all time,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna we're gonna, you know, reintroduce a food
Speaker 1: stone and psily for the flint stone and kids of
Speaker 1: the vitamins. Yeah, that's right exactly. I mean people like
Speaker 1: eating things having to do with the flint stones. There's
Speaker 1: something about that. And smoking Winston cigarettes. Kids also like that.
Speaker 1: But if you if you've seen the Fred Flintstone and
Speaker 1: Barney having a nice Winston behind the house commercials from
Speaker 1: the nineteen six and seven perfect so flints. Mcribb stays
Speaker 1: on the menu again, but in two thousand five it
Speaker 1: went on you guessed it, a farewell tour. That's two
Speaker 1: thousand five, so seventeen years ago. Okay, it goes on
Speaker 1: its first farewell tour, followed by three more farewell tours.
Speaker 1: You can like, go back and look at there's images
Speaker 1: mac ribb the farewell tour to two thousand and six.
Speaker 1: Theories abound that McDonald's is actually releasing and recalling the
Speaker 1: mcribb in direct reaction to fluctuating pork prices, and if
Speaker 1: you like, go back and map the appearance and the
Speaker 1: farewell tours of the mcribb. It kind of works like
Speaker 1: they only hit it in the valleys, like in terms
Speaker 1: of like when they're hitting like when it's at a low.
Speaker 1: They're like, all right, baby, buy up the pork. The
Speaker 1: mcribb is back. Yes, is beef do beef prices? Is
Speaker 1: that just like a horizontal line? Is that? I think?
Speaker 1: I think it must be more steady. And also it's
Speaker 1: probably more steady because McDonald's exists, right, And yeah, and
Speaker 1: they're the biggest, like one of the biggest, if not
Speaker 1: the largest, like purchasers of beef. When they put apples
Speaker 1: in one of their salads, they became the biggest purchaser
Speaker 1: of apples in the United States. So they're yeah, they're
Speaker 1: they they like it's hard to say, Okay, are they
Speaker 1: reacting to trends or are they creating them? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe those dips and valleys are in our results of
Speaker 1: the mcribb going in and out. Yeah, like insider information
Speaker 1: that they're going to it's a chicken nugget or egg
Speaker 1: McMuffin situation, that's right, what's in first, the chicken nugget
Speaker 1: or the eggmuff Nobody knows. I don't know, so that
Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense, but it's yeah, like
Speaker 1: we said, it's the same strategy that musical acts do
Speaker 1: and that infuriate people. Like the so Ozzy Osborne had
Speaker 1: been no More Tours tour when he was, you know,
Speaker 1: initially retiring, I think in and then in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: no more tours to Share, LCD sound System, the Who,
Speaker 1: like every genre, like they've all said goodbye. I think
Speaker 1: Trent Reser did it. Yeah, sh goodbye tour. I they
Speaker 1: he duped me for that. I was like I'm there trying, Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go, and then I'm like, he's still going. I
Speaker 1: think the ballsist was Shared did a farewell, multiple farewell tours,
Speaker 1: and then at one point she did a farewell tour
Speaker 1: and moved directly onto a Vegas residency for three years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the reason it works is that, uh. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: so when you saw when you were duped by Trent,
Speaker 1: you weren't bummed that you went to the show, you know,
Speaker 1: not so he's back. Oh that's only good news. You're
Speaker 1: never like I went to one farewell show and I
Speaker 1: don't want to go to another one. Yeah, not at all.
Speaker 1: I was like I was there like two years later
Speaker 1: when he did another tour, and I was like, yeah, yeah, great,
Speaker 1: great Greade. I'm here, I'm here, I'm here next to
Speaker 1: a guy who was juggling l ed fucking balls next
Speaker 1: to me while I was tripping, and it was the
Speaker 1: most annoying thing. There's a guy I remember. I think
Speaker 1: it was outside, and I forget which tour. I like,
Speaker 1: big festival they're at. I was next to some guy
Speaker 1: who was juggling the whole fucking show like light up balls,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is a funk. This is too
Speaker 1: much for me anyway. But all that to say, I'm
Speaker 1: not mad at when a fair World tour goes on.
Speaker 1: But yeah, if it's good, if they do a good job,
Speaker 1: that's that's fantastic. Or it's also the Disney Vault, they'll
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, it's which is so weird. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: only can open it for Yeah. It almost like I
Speaker 1: had an idea of the Disney Vault that was like
Speaker 1: a like magical crypt that they could only open for
Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks at a time. It's like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, this company has total control to do
Speaker 1: whatever the funk they won't, whenever the folk they won't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just a sales moratorium, that's what we call it,
Speaker 1: more than anything, rather than like did did Walt's Ghost?
Speaker 1: Let us look at the tapes again. But I will
Speaker 1: say just with LCD sounds sound system, I'll never James
Speaker 1: Murphy played himself. I thought they were done years ago,
Speaker 1: and they're ever fucking everywhere again, like especially this last summer.
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought y'all were fucking done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: look I get it. They have fans. Yeah. Barbara Streisand's
Speaker 1: fans actually tried to sue her after paying for hefty
Speaker 1: ticket prices for her first farewell tour, and so she did.
Speaker 1: She went on a farewell tour in two thousand grossed
Speaker 1: fixed fifty six million dollars. And then when she announced
Speaker 1: that she would be saying goodbye again in two thousand six,
Speaker 1: so that's they like they need to be keeping track of, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: that's too soon, Barber strais And people will like literally
Speaker 1: sue you and it will become a news story. But
Speaker 1: the mcribs like goes away every couple of years, so
Speaker 1: we don't like for fickle lawsuits and stuff. The shorthand
Speaker 1: has been speaking of McDonald's, you know, the suing for
Speaker 1: coffee being too hot, but it maybe should be suing
Speaker 1: for not doing a proper farewell tour. Streisand you know, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: and the coffee too hot thing is a great example
Speaker 1: of like corporations having control over like how our media works.
Speaker 1: Because the person who got burned by their coffee like
Speaker 1: McDonald's had been warned by consumer groups like your coffee
Speaker 1: is way too hot, like if somebody spilled it on themselves,
Speaker 1: they will have like third degree burns, Like you need
Speaker 1: to chill out with how fucking hot your coffee is.
Speaker 1: They ignored those warnings. The person had like permanent skin
Speaker 1: damage from the hot coffee. Uh, And we're all like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's the asshole. Like I only learned that like
Speaker 1: years after I had been telling you know, yeah that
Speaker 1: was that was myth busted uh recently. Yeah. The best
Speaker 1: way to do a farewell tour this is the Bob
Speaker 1: Dylan method is always seem like you are on the
Speaker 1: verge of death and just stay touring. I went and
Speaker 1: saw Bob Dylan in like two thousand six, and I
Speaker 1: was like, this motherfucker is might not make it through
Speaker 1: this show. He's and then he's he's still touring. He's
Speaker 1: been on permanent tour for the last thirty years. He's like, actually,
Speaker 1: it's just laughing counting money, he's like feels dumb s
Speaker 1: O B S dying Yeah, and then comes out like
Speaker 1: he's like I can clean a jerk three hundred pounds
Speaker 1: man saying fucking with me. But is there any like,
Speaker 1: is there anything to being able to sue for for
Speaker 1: an artist saying this is the fair wet like to
Speaker 1: come out to say this is the last time. But
Speaker 1: I guess it's hard to say because you can't be like,
Speaker 1: you know, you have the right as a human being
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, actually I wanted to come
Speaker 1: out of retirement, you know what I mean, Like that's
Speaker 1: not obviously illegal, but they're clearly obviously like in the
Speaker 1: in terms of like someone's motivation to buy a ticket
Speaker 1: at a higher price, hearing that this could be the
Speaker 1: last time you'll see them clearly would add extra motivation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And my theory is that it's not necessarily the artist's fault.
Speaker 1: It's I think the artist is like, yeah, I'm pretty good,
Speaker 1: like I'm ready to retire. And I think this goes
Speaker 1: for boxers who come out of retirement, but they are not.
Speaker 1: Once you're famous and like, you know, you have an
Speaker 1: entire companies where the people making money off of everything
Speaker 1: you do. You are no longer really in control of
Speaker 1: your own life. And so you know, the people that
Speaker 1: you surround yourself with, the people you get business advice from,
Speaker 1: are all going to be pushing you to come out
Speaker 1: of retirement, even if it's bad for you, even if
Speaker 1: it's like shitty to your customers, like there is. You
Speaker 1: are like in an information bubble of people who are
Speaker 1: like the people are calling for it, barbed like, we
Speaker 1: gotta do it. I guess nobody calls Barbara Streisan Barb
Speaker 1: Barb Babs jack Well and or Ozzy Osborne. You know,
Speaker 1: he did his No More Tours and then but he
Speaker 1: had no idea he was gonna do like this huge
Speaker 1: hit reality show and his whole family was gonna become
Speaker 1: crazy famous. And also like he might not have had
Speaker 1: any idea he was doing the No More Tours Part
Speaker 1: two until like they were like, yeah, I just walked
Speaker 1: through that door, walked out. It was the stadium full
Speaker 1: of people. Yeah, that that feels like one that's especially predatory.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's funny. Like the last time
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, they're not retired was jay Z,
Speaker 1: because I was such a jay Z fan and then
Speaker 1: one of the Blueprints, and when the Black album came on,
Speaker 1: like damn, that's a good way to go out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then the subsequent albums, I'm like, row, what the fund
Speaker 1: is this ship? Because like none of his like latter
Speaker 1: day albums, like ranking his top five, I'm like at all,
Speaker 1: But I get for him. He was like, man, they're
Speaker 1: you know what, they're still buying this ship. We can
Speaker 1: put Magna Carta. Holy Grail is like a download on
Speaker 1: Samsung phones. Fuck it, baby, they're back. I think there's
Speaker 1: a reason people do the I'm gonna go out on
Speaker 1: top like they Usually when people do that, they have
Speaker 1: some instinct that like they're not staying on top for
Speaker 1: that much longer, and then when they do come out
Speaker 1: of retirement, it's it usually gives a pretty good I
Speaker 1: don't know, like I'm thinking of jay Z, thinking of
Speaker 1: like Seinfeld is another example where people are like they're
Speaker 1: going out on top and like their last season wasn't
Speaker 1: their best season, but it was still like good enough.
Speaker 1: But then when you know Seinfeld does stand up after that,
Speaker 1: it's just he's not there anymore. Man, It's no good.
Speaker 1: But he is a fashion icon, so we can oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: look up to him for that. Yeah, well, Matthew, truly
Speaker 1: a pleasure having you on the dailies, Like, guys, where
Speaker 1: can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff,
Speaker 1: Matthew Patrick Davis on Instagram or on YouTube. I have
Speaker 1: music videos of songs that I've written, and on Instagram
Speaker 1: I'll start I'll start posting spoilery things about Barbarian probably
Speaker 1: after Halloween. So if you want to see the process
Speaker 1: of how the prosthetics were done or that kind of thing,
Speaker 1: that'll be a common stay tuned nice And is there
Speaker 1: a tweet or some of the work of social media
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying, Well, so, yeah, I think maybe this
Speaker 1: isn't like a a tweet or a current meme or anything,
Speaker 1: but a YouTube rabbit hole that is a comfort food
Speaker 1: for me. Is old Jiminy Glick interviews. Do you know
Speaker 1: who Jimmy Glick? Yeah, Martin Short. Yeah, it's a character
Speaker 1: Martin Short did like in the nineties, And there's like
Speaker 1: hours of VHS quality videos on YouTube where he's you know,
Speaker 1: interviewing Spielberg say and you know, going like, so you
Speaker 1: want an oscar? How come? Yeah? What are you going
Speaker 1: to make the big one? You know, it's something that
Speaker 1: really clicks with the audience. You know, he's a precursor
Speaker 1: to between Two Ferns or like the Ali g Show
Speaker 1: or or Sasha Baron Cohen stuff. So yeah, I enjoyed
Speaker 1: those great, great recommendation. Miles, Where can people find you?
Speaker 1: What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Well, I was gonna say, Matthew,
Speaker 1: have you seen the video that was comparing Tucker Carlson
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Glick. Oh my gosh, no, you know what
Speaker 1: about and like they're just his his delivery, just side
Speaker 1: by side with Jimmy Glick. It for someone who appreciates
Speaker 1: Jimmy Glick, you'll probably find it really fine. Like if
Speaker 1: you just search Twitter Tucker Carlson, Jimmy click yes me
Speaker 1: find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Speaker 1: Also check us out on Miles and Jack Got Matt Boosts.
Speaker 1: That's our basketball podcast that we do with the NBA.
Speaker 1: Ever heard of it? And also me and Sophia Alexandra
Speaker 1: out on the other podcast four twenty Day Fiance when
Speaker 1: we talk about ninety day Fiance. Let's see, let's see
Speaker 1: some tweets that I like. Okay, this is from This
Speaker 1: is from last week. It's from at at James Milstein,
Speaker 1: John Milstein. It's he's talking about like he's making fun
Speaker 1: of like people on conservative dating apps. Is this TikTok
Speaker 1: that he did and about, Like, yeah, dude, it's obviously
Speaker 1: like everybody's using these apps. I'll play a little bit
Speaker 1: of it where he's playing a guy who's talking about, like,
Speaker 1: you totally meet really cool women on these conservative dating apps.
Speaker 1: My girlfriend I met on the conservative dating app The
Speaker 1: Right Stuff. Actually she just left a second ago, but
Speaker 1: she'll be back really soon. Being my girlfriend connected because
Speaker 1: we both believe in free speech, guns being allowed to
Speaker 1: go off anywhere, and that a woman should be her
Speaker 1: man's cheerleader, even if she's more accomplished than him. She's
Speaker 1: sitting just off camera in this and she's laughing laughing anyway.
Speaker 1: It's such a fantastic construction of Oh, yeah, it's fancy,
Speaker 1: it's it's great over here. So yeah, thanks are Yeah.
Speaker 1: You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore. Oh,
Speaker 1: Brian uh tweet I've been enjoying Gridette walks home alone
Speaker 1: at night tweeted us we would like an edit button Ellen,
Speaker 1: And then it's a meme from some cake boss reality show.
Speaker 1: Maybe best I could do is mask off racism. Oh,
Speaker 1: and then there's just like one of those four four
Speaker 1: panel photograph things of a cat doing a thing I've
Speaker 1: seen cats do so frequently, where they are sleeping, wake
Speaker 1: up with a start like startled, and then go right
Speaker 1: back to sleep and says, oh, no, I overslept, Oh
Speaker 1: I forgot I'm a cat, which is probably what's going
Speaker 1: on in their mind. Very Will Ferrell. Oh that's right looking,
Speaker 1: cal fucking dog that. Speaking of Will Ferrell, wouldn't Miles
Speaker 1: You asked Matthew what that was behind him, and he
Speaker 1: was like, I think it's a fender. I didn't know
Speaker 1: if you were quoting the Satan with Garth Brooks like
Speaker 1: it is a hell bending spindle of the phones and
Speaker 1: send you of sitters. It's it's a fender. I think
Speaker 1: it's a fender. Anyways. You can find us on Twitter
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Speaker 1: We have Facebook fan page and a website. Daily is
Speaker 1: like guys dot com, where we post our episodes and
Speaker 1: our foot notes. We link off to the information that
Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode, as well as a
Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song
Speaker 1: do we think people might be? Uh, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's time for some you know. I guess it's
Speaker 1: something spoolky, But I don't want to play anything that's
Speaker 1: gonna freak people the funk out. But I just wanted
Speaker 1: to play a track that I really enjoyed when I
Speaker 1: was just getting into college. It's Prefeus seventy three with
Speaker 1: the track Pentagram, and I figured, well, the name Pentagram
Speaker 1: of books. Some were dark shit if you're you know,
Speaker 1: into satanic panic and all that. But it's a really
Speaker 1: fantastic track. Like you know, he's like the one of
Speaker 1: the o g s of like the bet scene, and
Speaker 1: this is like a really dope track. I would like
Speaker 1: just sort of chopped up acoustic guitar with this vocal sample.
Speaker 1: So check out Pentagram by Produce seven Degree. All right,
Speaker 1: well we'll link after that in the footnotes. The Daily
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