Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season two sixty two,
Speaker 1: episode one of dir Day Leys like Guys Day production
Speaker 1: of I Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we
Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's share conscienness. About to
Speaker 1: get a little bit more difficult to take a deep
Speaker 1: dive because Twitter is going away. So I don't know
Speaker 1: we're gonna blame in real research or some ship. Now,
Speaker 1: I just go to parlor like gay Ones. That's where
Speaker 1: the un is, right, that's where the real ships. And
Speaker 1: you know what, listeners, you're gonna love the new sound
Speaker 1: of this show. Okay, the following weeks we got some
Speaker 1: we heard a lot of stuff we weren't really thinking about. Wow,
Speaker 1: just new thoughts coming in completely, you know, ampithetical doll
Speaker 1: of my movie. Hey Miles, it's Monday, November seven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm saying that, Like Blake Shelton,
Speaker 1: but what is that the Jews name from the Boys,
Speaker 1: like yeah, who was like yeah, yeah, yeah, Hey, alright, man,
Speaker 1: I like that. Uh. November seven International Merlough Day, National
Speaker 1: Canine Lymphoma Awareness Day, and nationally this is really specific,
Speaker 1: National Bitter Sweet Chocolate with Almonds Day. Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: know that. I think that one was created by my mom.
Speaker 1: Shout out to my mom. Really she she loves a
Speaker 1: good bitter sweet chocolate. Oh shit, yeah, well I love that.
Speaker 1: I love there must just be a strong, strong group
Speaker 1: identity around that week. Yeah, I'm just like canine lymphoma
Speaker 1: awariness day, like what this is new? Because I feel
Speaker 1: like what in our parents age, they're just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a vet for what? And then animals just like
Speaker 1: we have like huge growths and they're like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: Lumpy's bumped beast spine and they're like it's a tumor,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's just it's just
Speaker 1: funny how much with technolog the g and I guess
Speaker 1: the ease of treatment. Now we're like, oh, because like
Speaker 1: right now, my dog got a heart murmur. Before I
Speaker 1: remember growing up, my dog probably had so much wrong
Speaker 1: with it. But back then it was like God spends
Speaker 1: right now because it talks. But now I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe my heart is bigger. I mean, you won't be
Speaker 1: surprised to know that he had a heart murmur from
Speaker 1: day one? Just did he was? He was he was
Speaker 1: a medical miracle that he lasted. What was he on
Speaker 1: the scale of six years four to six five out
Speaker 1: of six. Oh, he would remember all the way, all
Speaker 1: the oh ship, yeah, okay, anyway, So just it's just
Speaker 1: interesting to think of, like how much more we think
Speaker 1: about like our own animal care than like previous generations did,
Speaker 1: because I'm like, the example I had was just let
Speaker 1: it ride, But I get that now we have interventions. Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: We talked about the like really dark period in US
Speaker 1: history right at the like I think it was when
Speaker 1: the US first got into World War two where they
Speaker 1: were like, okay, so what you have to do is
Speaker 1: ration your dairy ration like other food stuffs, and execute
Speaker 1: your dogs so they're not taking up any Yeah. There
Speaker 1: was also a dog rationing like dog execution wave that
Speaker 1: went around because they were just like they were taking
Speaker 1: up too much, too much resources. Folks shout out to
Speaker 1: the people who were like, you know what, let's just
Speaker 1: wait to see how this goes. Before we start. Would
Speaker 1: have been hiding my dog away. Anyways. My name is
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, AKA, I'm gonna take a ship. Dumb dun't
Speaker 1: dunt dunt dune. The Seven Nation Army couldn't hold this crap.
Speaker 1: They're gonna baghead up. Dun't dun't dun't dun't dun't try
Speaker 1: to sell it right up behind my back. And I'm
Speaker 1: talking to myself night because I can't quite grasp if
Speaker 1: they're selling vagina candles, why not sell some of my
Speaker 1: mountain dew ass? Oh that was courtesy Alex Lugi, Mr
Speaker 1: Lugubrious about a story that I wasn't here for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Goop. It was the Goop when it's gift guide,
Speaker 1: And there was literally a seventy five dollar bag of ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there was spoke manure. Did they did they have like
Speaker 1: the vintage the No? They said where they like, this
Speaker 1: is from somebody who eats a vegan diet and it's
Speaker 1: they said, it was like from like chickens and horses
Speaker 1: and honkeys and ship like at some fucking ranch or something.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, what the fuck seventy five dollars for
Speaker 1: like bespoke ship. It's like and there's like a three
Speaker 1: joint rolling machine that I just could not get behind
Speaker 1: because it had like an espresso pods for the weeds,
Speaker 1: so you couldn't even put your own flower in it.
Speaker 1: And you were like buying aired fucking midash ship. No no, sorry,
Speaker 1: I can definitely see a Sharper image style three joint
Speaker 1: rolling machine, but you could have to source your weed
Speaker 1: from from Sharper but so whack no no no, And
Speaker 1: plus like it feels like with like Instagram, like you
Speaker 1: know apps like or you know wes, technology gets better,
Speaker 1: we sort of democratize all these skills. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: even if you don't have a camera, you can actually
Speaker 1: take really cool pictures because ship. You know, it's helping
Speaker 1: ship look better in a lot of ways. And I
Speaker 1: feel like I developed the skills to twist up fucking
Speaker 1: any situation inside of a jacket, inside of a backpack.
Speaker 1: It could be raining. I could gut a blunt and
Speaker 1: fucking twist something up like gone is sixty seconds maybe
Speaker 1: actually technically like but so when I see those machines,
Speaker 1: I feel like a Luddite. Could you just pull your
Speaker 1: sleeve down over your hand and roll the joint inside
Speaker 1: the sleeve one handed? Damn? I could. That's that's something
Speaker 1: I want to see. I probably could, depends on how yeah,
Speaker 1: how find the grind is Anyway, I'm thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined as always by my co ho Yes for Miles
Speaker 1: when you're not m g K but you still are
Speaker 1: we When how are you get to lambo speed when
Speaker 1: you're chilly with her majesty? Podcast not rating first side
Speaker 1: host makes me boness less broke. Then Alex Jones and
Speaker 1: co host Jack will drink dude Boom boom boom boom
Speaker 1: podcast second rate you simply must do Italy. Itst great. Okay,
Speaker 1: there it is. Thank you to the bro you did it.
Speaker 1: Fix You by Cold Play fantastic. I don't know. Fix
Speaker 1: you know? Is that last dream? Dude? That ship was
Speaker 1: like every promo for like a big event would play
Speaker 1: fix You because there was like the that was like
Speaker 1: the beat, like the end part that's like no no
Speaker 1: no no no no okay no no no no God
Speaker 1: like that part you don't remember that mm alright, not no,
Speaker 1: it's not coming to me based off of your your
Speaker 1: vocal interpretation over Okay, how about this part that coming
Speaker 1: out of no no no no boom boom and then
Speaker 1: they come out calm, just piano, Chris Martin, lights will
Speaker 1: go to home and NA, you don't know this ship,
Speaker 1: You're all right forget it, probably listen to it. I'll
Speaker 1: be like I'm playing myself singing this much cold Play.
Speaker 1: Well done, Jack, You fucking walk me right into the track.
Speaker 1: You know, I wasn't going to admit to knowing cold
Speaker 1: Play on brand forgot me makes me look like nice
Speaker 1: try asshole. Nope, I've never even heard of cold Play. Anyways,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by the host of how to Do the Pot podcast
Speaker 1: Demystifying Cannabis for Women. Please welcome back to the show,
Speaker 1: Ellen Scandling. Hi, I'm so happy to be here again.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, thanks for coming back. Thanks for coming back.
Speaker 1: What's new? How are you doing? I'm good, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Do you have the group joint roller? I don't have
Speaker 1: the group joint roller. I'm sort of a pre roll buyer. Sorry, no,
Speaker 1: I buy pre rolls too, because there are ones that
Speaker 1: are that are okay. This is the thing. I usually
Speaker 1: wouldn't buy pre roles because the flower that was in
Speaker 1: pre rolls was just like the cast it off shake
Speaker 1: and like not chicken McNuggets there. Yeah, exactly, Google, Like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to eat chicken tenders, you know, real meat.
Speaker 1: So I would always buy the flower and roll my own.
Speaker 1: But now there's a lot of pre roles that are
Speaker 1: pretty pretty potent. But also there's some trouble because these
Speaker 1: dudes in California like suit this company because they're like, yo,
Speaker 1: you're lying about the percentages on your fucking pre rolls,
Speaker 1: because that is another are hiding a percentage, You're hiding
Speaker 1: a less potent pre role behind these numbers. But yeah,
Speaker 1: and what's your with I feel like a lot of
Speaker 1: people and they're going to dispensary shorthand is like how
Speaker 1: high the percentages? But I've also experienced things like that
Speaker 1: the percentages aren't necessarily indicative of what how I'm gonna
Speaker 1: you know, take that in what's what's well, how do
Speaker 1: you determine, you know what what pre rolls right for you? Well?
Speaker 1: I think the first thing that I learned after being
Speaker 1: in the industry for a while is that Sativa Indica
Speaker 1: hybrid is not really going to help you very much.
Speaker 1: And it's tough because that's kind of what's available and
Speaker 1: that's the classification and that's usually how people will start.
Speaker 1: But it's it's more of a signal, I think, like
Speaker 1: if you say I want an indica, uh, the bud
Speaker 1: tender is sort of triangulating that to say, like, this
Speaker 1: person wants to chill out, this person wants to be mellow,
Speaker 1: Say TVA, you want something energizing, have intrusive thoughts in
Speaker 1: my case, right, yeah, you know, I tell them how
Speaker 1: I want to feel. Um, I just go in with
Speaker 1: a handful of cash and you're like hid like one
Speaker 1: happy please, a happy giggly day please, no stress and
Speaker 1: one mild panic attack. That was my order. Damn. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't have ordered that. That's what sucked me up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you'd just be chill and not panicked. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: well they should go to this side of the store.
Speaker 1: Oh fantastic. So I started there, and then we have
Speaker 1: we created this list of the twelve essential strains that
Speaker 1: we think, you know, everyone should have in their stash.
Speaker 1: And you don't have to have all twelve, but maybe
Speaker 1: two or three. And so I kind of use that
Speaker 1: as a guide, like, you know, if you like O, G. Kush,
Speaker 1: then tell them that if you like. If you like
Speaker 1: a strain, then usually I say I like that. What
Speaker 1: else do you have? I have some brands now that
Speaker 1: I like too, so I get a little brand specific.
Speaker 1: But it's tough. I mean, walking in It's like you
Speaker 1: are a kid in a candy store, but there's so
Speaker 1: much candy and you don't really know what any of
Speaker 1: it tastes like, and so it's a little bit hard.
Speaker 1: The shopping part is still evolving. I think for sure,
Speaker 1: when are we gonna start getting days international days for
Speaker 1: for a specific strain? The way that what what was
Speaker 1: the wine that had low day is today? Which like,
Speaker 1: no matter what kind of wine you drink, the drunk
Speaker 1: is the same. I know, like alcoholics like to be like, no,
Speaker 1: actually I was white wine drunk and was feeling very bubbly.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't believe any of that ship. But
Speaker 1: like weed is much more different. It should have more
Speaker 1: like knowledge of the strains than all the knowledge around
Speaker 1: different wine types. Yeah, I mean yeah, it's yeah, where
Speaker 1: is our where is our sucking? O G Cush Holiday?
Speaker 1: I proclaim August eighteen, eight one eight as O G.
Speaker 1: Cush Day to celebrate the O. G. Cush growers of
Speaker 1: the San Fernando Valley. Thank you so much. Yeah, we've
Speaker 1: been trying to get an international day together. Let's do
Speaker 1: it day. I won't be here to partake, but you know,
Speaker 1: you don't have to I'd love to I'd love to
Speaker 1: give you a candy cigarette. You can have a drink
Speaker 1: a little grape juice and have a nice candy cigarette,
Speaker 1: and I'll sit and I'll be sipping lean and smoking
Speaker 1: up blunts. All right, Ellen, we're gonna get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
Speaker 1: gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're
Speaker 1: talking about today. We're talking this Harvard study. It's a
Speaker 1: study from two Harvard professors that was published in like
Speaker 1: an m I t outlet. But it just weren't really
Speaker 1: hard on this idea that there's a path towards a
Speaker 1: better society through just an all time time doubling down
Speaker 1: on police, like more five hundred thousand more police force
Speaker 1: would be do the body good in America? And so
Speaker 1: Alec Carrick and Sanis you know, just want to took
Speaker 1: a took a closer look. I think I think it
Speaker 1: is one of the big pillars of like one of
Speaker 1: the early things that I learned about like what things
Speaker 1: having liberal verse conservative bias. One of the big things
Speaker 1: first things I learned was, well, academia has a very
Speaker 1: liberal bias, and the media has a very liberal bias,
Speaker 1: and I think this is a good opportunity for us
Speaker 1: to just look at that idea that there's a liberal
Speaker 1: bias to anything. I mean, there might be like a
Speaker 1: neoliberal bias, but it's definitely not a leftist bias, which
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people assume that that those
Speaker 1: two are interchangeable. So well, we'll talk about just academia
Speaker 1: being a complete shit show. What's talk about Oprah coming
Speaker 1: through endorsing Fetterman. What we'll ask the question if is
Speaker 1: that too little, too late? I don't really have anything
Speaker 1: on this, but is Twitter just like over like is
Speaker 1: that it? I don't know. I think we're watching it.
Speaker 1: I think we're just sort of like, yeo, this ship
Speaker 1: might fucking blow up. You were just I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people just kind of like waiting like at
Speaker 1: the threshold to be like okay, alright, alright there, Like yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm just curious to hear, like, you know, you guys,
Speaker 1: thoughts on like where will that energy go? What does
Speaker 1: the post Twitter world look like? The what now of
Speaker 1: it all? So we'll get into that plenty more. But first, Allen,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history. This morning, I was searching the
Speaker 1: Young Museum in San Francisco because I am going this
Speaker 1: afternoon to see the Faith Wrangled exhibit. During COVID, I
Speaker 1: really missed being like in the presence of art, and
Speaker 1: so I have since I've been able to do it,
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get back there. And since COVID also,
Speaker 1: all these big museums are finally putting women into their
Speaker 1: big exhibit. There's been three that I've seen, like in
Speaker 1: the past year, which is a lot women artists that
Speaker 1: I've never seen exhibited. So they Wrangled is ninety one
Speaker 1: years old, which also kind of is the path for
Speaker 1: some of these women artists, like when they get their
Speaker 1: big show there. Really really old, but I can't wait
Speaker 1: to go. She's super cool. I found out about her
Speaker 1: a few years ago because she did a collaboration with
Speaker 1: Vans and I bought them from my husband. Then I
Speaker 1: learned she writes children's books and my son really loves
Speaker 1: one of her books, and so yeah, that's what I
Speaker 1: was just working on, what the hours are and see
Speaker 1: if I can get there. It is so wild, like
Speaker 1: when you look at the percentages of like arts like
Speaker 1: art galleries and things, how little like how it's just
Speaker 1: it's mostly men, Like it's it's absurd how much how
Speaker 1: like like male dominated, like you know, quote unquote fine
Speaker 1: art is. But yeah, it's nice to see them trying
Speaker 1: to put it more interesting. You know, these three exhibits
Speaker 1: of these women. I saw Joan Mitchell, I saw Judy Chicago.
Speaker 1: They were all at either the s F MoMA or
Speaker 1: the De Young, which are the biggest museums in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and they were just so different than anything else I'd seen,
Speaker 1: but they were contemporaries of artists that, you know, So
Speaker 1: it's kind of looking just creating more context I think
Speaker 1: around what art was at that time, where it's going,
Speaker 1: where it can go. So yeah, I'm really excited to
Speaker 1: go this afternoon. An artist friend of mine she was
Speaker 1: coming to town and stay with us, and she was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm going. Like she spends hours whenever she
Speaker 1: gets to a town, just like she like blocks off
Speaker 1: the whole day to go to the museum. And she's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like going to church for me, Like that's what
Speaker 1: what I do, and that that was just like a
Speaker 1: good thing for me to hear, to be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's like you need to do that for your soul
Speaker 1: for like you know, to go to go see art
Speaker 1: being the presence of art. Yeah, the presence of it was.
Speaker 1: I mean the first time that I went to a
Speaker 1: museum after COVID, I've literally came out and I felt different,
Speaker 1: Like I just it's like the first time that you
Speaker 1: got to see friends after such a long wait. You're
Speaker 1: with them, and like an hour later when you're by yourself,
Speaker 1: you're like, whoa, I just feel different. And that's really
Speaker 1: how I felt after that first museum trips, So it
Speaker 1: seems like a good thing to keep doing. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: also like yeah, it's it's there's really like the moment
Speaker 1: when you look at an art piece and you begin
Speaker 1: just thinking at all about it. That's the whole point
Speaker 1: of going. You know, like when you when you don't
Speaker 1: give yourself that opportunity, you really miss out on a
Speaker 1: lot of like introspection or just like trying to see
Speaker 1: through an artist's size, like what they thought was interesting.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely every usually when I go any place,
Speaker 1: I also try and see like at least one museum
Speaker 1: to see like what the what the what they're working with? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what they're inspired by. You know, I think that's kind
Speaker 1: of what's cool about it because if you can walk
Speaker 1: out and this is what this city has chosen, it
Speaker 1: kind of has like the vibe of the city and
Speaker 1: the young museums in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: so it's like a very magical place. And you know,
Speaker 1: cannabis can be a pretty good match if you're going
Speaker 1: to a museum and want to hang out, so you
Speaker 1: can kind of enhance your experience. I'm a big believer that,
Speaker 1: you know, matching the weed to what you want to
Speaker 1: do is like just the chef's kiss of cannabis. So
Speaker 1: for me, with art is my thing. I don't I'm
Speaker 1: like to smoke or vape before I got like I
Speaker 1: prefer to. I need headphones. I need fully charged headphones
Speaker 1: and a couple of bites of it edible and I'm
Speaker 1: ready to see some heart. Yeah. What's what's something you
Speaker 1: think is overrated? Okay? The thing I think is really
Speaker 1: overrated is prescription sleep aids and Christian sleep medicine. And
Speaker 1: it I've learned about this not because I have terrible insomnia,
Speaker 1: but because cannabis is helping so many people sleep and
Speaker 1: I have talked to people whose doctors give them these
Speaker 1: very strong medications and then tell them like, it's kind
Speaker 1: of going to stop working, so you're going to have
Speaker 1: to take more. And the people are like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: and medicine that, yeah, I mean that's what that was
Speaker 1: the opioid issue too, exactly. And so sleep is an
Speaker 1: issue that you know, I think people of all everyone
Speaker 1: can relate to having a bad night of sleep, whether
Speaker 1: it happens to multiple times a week or like once
Speaker 1: every once in a while, it's brutal. And I talked
Speaker 1: to a lot of people who say, you know, Ellen,
Speaker 1: I don't really like weed, but I take an edible
Speaker 1: every night to sleep and it's changed my life. So
Speaker 1: I think that it's something that I'm hoping that sort
Speaker 1: of just like it not being a great medicine, we'll
Speaker 1: open people up to the idea that maybe another plant
Speaker 1: could help you out, and that cannabis could be that plant.
Speaker 1: And it's a little more complicated with cannabis because unlike
Speaker 1: just taking a pill and kind of your body just
Speaker 1: goes into some form of rest, whether it's like zombie
Speaker 1: rest or not. I think it is something we can
Speaker 1: talk more about but with weed, you have to know
Speaker 1: whether you have trouble falling asleep or staying asleep. And
Speaker 1: there are different types of cannabis that you take for
Speaker 1: those two sleep issues. But once thought to put into it,
Speaker 1: I just just give me the pill. Just give me
Speaker 1: the pill. Knocked me out, hit me over the head.
Speaker 1: You have to know yourself and like a dude, do
Speaker 1: some thinking about something as important as your as your health.
Speaker 1: That's interesting though, thank you for saying that. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: questions aren't that hard, but I bet they are for
Speaker 1: some people. Yeah, that's funny. People are like shot up
Speaker 1: because that So there's just a lot, a lot of
Speaker 1: medicine is moving towards the direction of, like, you know,
Speaker 1: having a more integrated approach that involves in the patient
Speaker 1: being treated as a responsible person and human being who
Speaker 1: is like involved in their own recovery, as opposed to
Speaker 1: the past where they were treated like a consumer who
Speaker 1: you were trying to just you know, get get to
Speaker 1: pay you money and be become a loyal subscriber to
Speaker 1: your pharmaceutical company. They were under the subscription economy before
Speaker 1: a lot of us were, you know, for real. It's
Speaker 1: just wild though, to see like you know to your
Speaker 1: point now, like because like there's so there's so many
Speaker 1: medicinal qualities of like cannabis or like psilocybin or like
Speaker 1: M D M A, and like we're just like because
Speaker 1: of the fucking drug war. It's like I don't know,
Speaker 1: first of all, And also I'm sure it's it's the
Speaker 1: drug wars incentivized because pharmaceutical and he's like, don't like
Speaker 1: figure out something that's like safer and cheaper, and like
Speaker 1: let's just not do that, right, But to even see
Speaker 1: like how like generationally, like I see more of my
Speaker 1: parents whore like boomers and stuff who or maybe like
Speaker 1: real straight growing up now are having things like reconstructive
Speaker 1: hip and knee surgeries and they absolutely don't want to
Speaker 1: take fucking opiods at all, Like they just can't handle it.
Speaker 1: And like I had a friend of mine who's like
Speaker 1: dad was like really hesitant because he had this very
Speaker 1: like seventies sixties view of like pot for hippies and
Speaker 1: like I don't need to be an idiot or whatever.
Speaker 1: Then started taking edibles and he's like, I'm so sorry
Speaker 1: that I did not like just take try and dissolve
Speaker 1: that perception to sort of see what the possibility was
Speaker 1: and and it's not necessarily for everybody, but it's also
Speaker 1: it's good for that for people to even be open
Speaker 1: to see, hey, this this could be an option. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a lot of of science at
Speaker 1: about this because cannabis is still still a schedule on
Speaker 1: drug although this is what Biden just talked about potentially changing.
Speaker 1: But pain and sleep, there just really is a lot
Speaker 1: of evidence that cannabis can help with those two things.
Speaker 1: And so people, especially older people who are taking a
Speaker 1: lot of medications, dealing with the side effects of like
Speaker 1: medication A, not like you medication B and all of that.
Speaker 1: You know, if you can remove even one or two,
Speaker 1: like maybe it's a topical pain cream instead of a
Speaker 1: pain killer, maybe it's for sleep, and just limiting the
Speaker 1: number of pills you're putting in your body. I feel
Speaker 1: like that that's something that that I have seen just
Speaker 1: be a major improvement for my own life and a
Speaker 1: lot of other people's too. And the problem with cannabis
Speaker 1: is that people can grow it themselves, whereas a pharmaceutical
Speaker 1: from Merk or Perdue was made in all that and
Speaker 1: there's a big barrier of entry. And I mean, I
Speaker 1: gotta lab in my garage, but yeah, you also might
Speaker 1: blow yourself up or I was one time because I
Speaker 1: was trying to make but Chane, we're not having this
Speaker 1: conversation again. Okay, okay, but but the yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: so there there's money to be made. It's the whole
Speaker 1: Just think about America as like one big profitability bias
Speaker 1: and it suddenly makes complete sense. And yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: it's also wild too. More and more people I know,
Speaker 1: like to just micro dose psilocybin now instead of drinking,
Speaker 1: Like people are just like I don't even like I
Speaker 1: don't even like no, I can I can have a
Speaker 1: little bit of psilocybin and I've I'm having like I'm
Speaker 1: more like social and I have a good time and
Speaker 1: I don't wake up with like being feeling like shit
Speaker 1: or anything. In fact, I feel fantastic and like all X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z. So it's just weird how even like
Speaker 1: people are trying to just in their own ways, they're
Speaker 1: discovering like even ship that normally like when you're in
Speaker 1: high school, like I did shrooms once and I lost
Speaker 1: my mind. Are now like yeah, man, like a little
Speaker 1: nibble here like was actually a I enjoyed Jurassic Park,
Speaker 1: yea even more if you took ten tile and all,
Speaker 1: you also might not feel so great, you know, like
Speaker 1: it's actually way more fun to do to macro dose mushrooms.
Speaker 1: But I mean like that's the that there are smaller,
Speaker 1: more responsible doses of these drugs that are actually can
Speaker 1: be very helpful. Ellen, what is something you think is underrated? Okay,
Speaker 1: the thing I think is underrated is how much it
Speaker 1: matters what your state elected officials position is on cannabis.
Speaker 1: So tomorrow is election day, and national polls tell us
Speaker 1: that of Americans believe the cannabis should be legal for
Speaker 1: medical or for adult use, it's about like sixty percent
Speaker 1: on recreational use and on medical. So that's one of
Speaker 1: the most popular issues that exists in our country right now.
Speaker 1: But you really have to pay attention down the ballot,
Speaker 1: like what are your senators, what are your representatives feel
Speaker 1: about weed? Because in California, for examst for instance, where
Speaker 1: cannabis has been legal for adult you since still today
Speaker 1: of California is dry with we there are no retail
Speaker 1: stores because of the decisions of the local officials, and
Speaker 1: so it's it's just it really really matters if you're
Speaker 1: voting to just take two seconds and if you care
Speaker 1: about weed and look and see how your local elected officials,
Speaker 1: state officials what they believe about weed, and if I
Speaker 1: had to guess, the other things that those local officials
Speaker 1: object to are also not going to be people who
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast like favorite or least favorite positions,
Speaker 1: you know, like if I feel like the way that
Speaker 1: you get to actually I'm against weed is by like
Speaker 1: being in league with the local chamber of commerce and
Speaker 1: ship like that that is bad for overall, like like yeah,
Speaker 1: recal real estate where they're like, you don't want a
Speaker 1: weed shop on this blocked heads. It's like I actually do,
Speaker 1: so a point on the profitability bias. If you want
Speaker 1: to know what I think is driving legalization, it's jobs
Speaker 1: and it's tax revenue. So nearly half a million people
Speaker 1: working weed, that's a lot of jobs. There are three
Speaker 1: times more cannabis workers than there are dentists in the US.
Speaker 1: So if you know a dentist, you probably know somebody
Speaker 1: working in weed. You know, Legal states have brought in
Speaker 1: ten billion dollars in tax revenue since realization. The Colorado
Speaker 1: the first state, So like from a profitability by a standpoint,
Speaker 1: if you want jobs, if you want tax revenue, if
Speaker 1: you want money. I think that's what's kind of making
Speaker 1: the cannabis election more interesting for me to watch because
Speaker 1: I would have agreed with you that, like things are
Speaker 1: just straight down the middle, and people who believe in
Speaker 1: civil rights believe in we need but people who like
Speaker 1: money also believe that. When when Mitch McConnell started buying
Speaker 1: on like HEMP, I was like, oh, John Gayner is
Speaker 1: on the al right at this point, I feel like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the cow is out of the barn, right. I think
Speaker 1: I used that right, Like it's that. I think for
Speaker 1: a long time, the profitability thing was what was holding back,
Speaker 1: and they were like, well, it's more profitable for us
Speaker 1: to have this war on drugs. Overall, there's more money
Speaker 1: in the war on drugs than there is which and
Speaker 1: then that was that was proven incorrect. I think with
Speaker 1: the with the explosion of the cannabis industry and like
Speaker 1: people realizing actually, like it's not just going to be
Speaker 1: young people who like to get high who need to
Speaker 1: use this, Like it's going to be very popular with
Speaker 1: everybody because it's actually a very helpful drug. Which you
Speaker 1: would have found out if you have bothered to study it.
Speaker 1: This medicine Jack, I mean, you know, let's let's move
Speaker 1: past that. But I think the other part two is
Speaker 1: like you look at those like conservative politicians, they're probably like, well, yo,
Speaker 1: that's that's money we don't have to put into taxes
Speaker 1: on like our donors. It's like, how about this all
Speaker 1: revenue like, because then you don't have to I'm sure
Speaker 1: for people I don't want to raise taxes. Well how
Speaker 1: about this? How about fifty million in like annual revenues
Speaker 1: for that, Like that's what Hawaii is projecting if they
Speaker 1: were legalizing cannabis there, and like in recently Massachusetts, we'd
Speaker 1: overtook cranberries as the fucking main crop there. I can't
Speaker 1: think of a state that more needs to smoke weed. Well,
Speaker 1: the reason that alcohol prohibition ended is because of the
Speaker 1: Great Depression and all of the states and everyone was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of money that we're not getting here.
Speaker 1: And so I think that there's sort of a playbook
Speaker 1: for this, like the history rhymes concept that you know,
Speaker 1: this recession, the deeper it gets, whatever it turns into.
Speaker 1: With all these challenges, these states are suddenly realizing that
Speaker 1: having an act. You know, I think Washington State, which
Speaker 1: has been legal since brings in four hundred million a year.
Speaker 1: Not a big state, you know, like that's a lot
Speaker 1: of money. Loan though, Hey, great Fries, though shout out
Speaker 1: Dick's driving. You really are taken by those from We're
Speaker 1: gonna do a live show in Seattle, and I think
Speaker 1: we'll just do it from a parking lot of Dick's right,
Speaker 1: and it's just gonna be you with me. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just getting high. I'm like, and that's what I'm saying, Fries,
Speaker 1: this isn't a live show. All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back. And yeah,
Speaker 1: this is just off of Alec Carrick and saying it's
Speaker 1: TWEETE Miles and I. We're like, oh man, we have
Speaker 1: to have this guy back here. We just keep quoting
Speaker 1: his threads, but its wind on the propaganda. He's really
Speaker 1: good at bringing out like some of the things I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have caught, Like I don't I know, I seem
Speaker 1: like super fucking smart, but I don't pay attention to
Speaker 1: every study that Harvard releases, and they're just generally, there's
Speaker 1: a pervasive myth that I bought into for, like, you know,
Speaker 1: when I was young and building my worldview that like,
Speaker 1: higher learning institutions have a liberal bias, and presumably it's
Speaker 1: the same liberal bias that caused mainstream media to remain
Speaker 1: allergic to socialism in any large you know, statewide or
Speaker 1: nationwide races give the benefit of the doubt and frequently
Speaker 1: the benefit of the only source we checked with to
Speaker 1: the police. But yeah, Ivy League institutions in particular, like
Speaker 1: just seems so irrevocably tied to wealth accumulation and wealth protection.
Speaker 1: Harvard has a fifty three billion dollar endowment that they
Speaker 1: just keep growing like it's a fucking hobby, Like it's
Speaker 1: we we talked about earlier last week that when like
Speaker 1: the people are talking about affirmative action and they're saying,
Speaker 1: these Ivy League institutions, like, you know, need to stop
Speaker 1: using affirmative action because now they're discriminating against Asian students,
Speaker 1: and that gives that it ignores that like they give
Speaker 1: so many spots to people who would not get in
Speaker 1: if they weren't related to people who went there or
Speaker 1: the children of extremely wealthy people on the Dean's List
Speaker 1: and you know, hint, you get on the Dean's List
Speaker 1: by giving absurdly huge amounts of money to the school.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. And then and then like
Speaker 1: on the other end of that, like the smart kids
Speaker 1: I know who went to Ivy League schools like all
Speaker 1: ended up in some sort of like finance job, like
Speaker 1: somehow related to the accumulation of wealth, the growth of wealth.
Speaker 1: And it just feels like they treat like a lot
Speaker 1: of the Ivy League people, I know, treat any skepticism
Speaker 1: towards finance or like not treating finances like the only
Speaker 1: serious thing and like something that just necessarily undergirds like
Speaker 1: how the world works is treated as like a you know,
Speaker 1: as unserious or like childish basically, yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: whole thing of like liberal or whatever in these Ivy
Speaker 1: League schools. Just look at where senators fucking go to college.
Speaker 1: On either side, You're not going to be like, oh man,
Speaker 1: what Ted Cruz went to Harvard? Oh what, let's put
Speaker 1: kinship hero right, I mean, like it's the the you know,
Speaker 1: like that those places end up just they're just like
Speaker 1: finishing schools for capitalists. They're not like I mean you
Speaker 1: can study other things there, but a lot like the
Speaker 1: pathway that we do see especially as it were, it's
Speaker 1: like especially this article, it's like the most backwards take on,
Speaker 1: like our carstral system. But like, yeah, it's proven that
Speaker 1: cops more cops isn't equal equating to more safety, but
Speaker 1: our suggestion is a half million more. I think also
Speaker 1: demonstrates just how much of you know, the capital is
Speaker 1: finishing school or whatever. It is more just about like
Speaker 1: maintaining status quo and not figuring out how to just
Speaker 1: keep that alive through these like really disingenuous analyzes. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So the claims of this paper from to Harvard professors
Speaker 1: that got published by M I T. The U S
Speaker 1: has way more prisoners than any other country. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: undeniably true, good start, and to way fewer cops and
Speaker 1: then three that is bad because prisons bring little benefit
Speaker 1: for their costs and four cops bring big benefits for
Speaker 1: their costs. So I think they have I think they
Speaker 1: have an issue with the or the then numbers there.
Speaker 1: So yes, the US has way more prisoners than other countries.
Speaker 1: And like all the charts in their article like have
Speaker 1: just all of the shocking numbers are on the Yeah,
Speaker 1: the the U s has way too many prisoners and
Speaker 1: they have about the same even by their standards that
Speaker 1: they admit to, and it it's like they're still within
Speaker 1: the normal range of developed countries in terms of numbers
Speaker 1: of number of cops. I think doing their statistical analysis,
Speaker 1: they thought they had arrived at a conclusion that there
Speaker 1: are like they're on the low end. You would think
Speaker 1: the US was on the high end. The US is
Speaker 1: actually on the low end when it comes to number
Speaker 1: of police. So Alec carry kitzanis for former guests, reached
Speaker 1: out to them and was like, hey, like, what what
Speaker 1: are your numbers from here, because this like doesn't match
Speaker 1: up with mine, And the professor admitted privately over email
Speaker 1: that the US census count is actually one point three
Speaker 1: one point to two million police. That's seventy six percent
Speaker 1: higher than the number they chose to use in their
Speaker 1: public article, which would mean that it's over the median
Speaker 1: amount like it actually and that puts America over the media. Yea,
Speaker 1: so now they're there. Two first things are the US
Speaker 1: has way way way more prisoners than any other you know,
Speaker 1: developed or any other nasia period and slightly more police officers.
Speaker 1: So it is what they should have said, rather than
Speaker 1: saying we got more prisoners and we don't have enough cops.
Speaker 1: And like he's even pointing out he's like they admitted, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they even used this like really deflated number to anchor
Speaker 1: their point that there is a gap that needs to
Speaker 1: be filled, and like without even counting things like private police,
Speaker 1: which you'll depending on where you live, you've probably seen it.
Speaker 1: You see him like certain areas like for these like
Speaker 1: very cop looking people who have like weapons and things
Speaker 1: are also like, oh, so this is private law enforcement
Speaker 1: over here too. Those numbers aren't counted. Uh, there's just
Speaker 1: a lot of it. It really just shows also to
Speaker 1: like how breathlessly people will also just say, oh, these
Speaker 1: two Harvard professors did this retreat, retreat, retreat or republish
Speaker 1: and continue to sort of spread that narrative. And they
Speaker 1: are basing their research on like a single study, whereas
Speaker 1: all of the like, so so that they're basing on
Speaker 1: the second part of their thing, which is that and
Speaker 1: the police are a seven self evidently good investment of
Speaker 1: public funds. They're investing or they're resting that on a
Speaker 1: single study that found that there are many like meta
Speaker 1: studies that take all the studies about this and have
Speaker 1: found that actually more police does not equate to more crime.
Speaker 1: And also all of these study's don't take into account
Speaker 1: the crimes committed by police, which which is like a
Speaker 1: shocking amount every time we take a look under that rock,
Speaker 1: there is a shocking amount of crimes being committed by
Speaker 1: the police, right. And we even talked about how like
Speaker 1: in Minneapolis the police are like bankrupting the city because
Speaker 1: of all their like factory and having to settle with
Speaker 1: like citizens for like all their like you know, malfeasance.
Speaker 1: That there's an like what's that cost too? Is that
Speaker 1: in the analysis? He yeah, I mean that That's another
Speaker 1: point that he does a good job of driving home
Speaker 1: is that it's not just that like police are a
Speaker 1: terrible instrument, it's that they are also like they they
Speaker 1: are a very sophisticated apparatus for fighting against any sort
Speaker 1: of social progress that is going to upset the current
Speaker 1: system that we have, which is, as to quote Joe
Speaker 1: Biden when he was trying to like argue for more police,
Speaker 1: they where the police are like your priest, and your
Speaker 1: like what what do you say? He is like counselor psychiatrists,
Speaker 1: like all these different jobs, like the the police are
Speaker 1: the only people that we give money to to do
Speaker 1: any of those things. And the police unions have are
Speaker 1: very sophisticated. The police unions, police lobbies, police pr all
Speaker 1: are very sophisticated at fighting any sort of you know,
Speaker 1: changing of how we invest to support social programs, progressive
Speaker 1: social policy. Like they know that that means that we
Speaker 1: are less reliant on police, and therefore they fight against that.
Speaker 1: They intimidate, physically, intimidate, like pullover family members of politicians
Speaker 1: who support that sort of thing. And they've been doing
Speaker 1: it for a hundred and twenty years at least. I mean,
Speaker 1: they were like the foundation of the police was as
Speaker 1: a runaway slave like hunting force. So so it's not
Speaker 1: just it's not just that more police would lead to
Speaker 1: more arrests than like, what the funk are you even
Speaker 1: talking about with this being the solution to we need
Speaker 1: more arrests? Right? They even they again, they admit it,
Speaker 1: they admit that the this would lead to more arrests,
Speaker 1: and they're like that is a downside. It's like no,
Speaker 1: but the point that you're the problem. You're trying to
Speaker 1: solve is that there are too many arrests and too
Speaker 1: many people in prison. What the fuck are you even
Speaker 1: talking about. It's such a wild, like just misguided, not
Speaker 1: serious argument, but it's put forward. And so that's where
Speaker 1: like my thoughts on like Ivy League institutions and just
Speaker 1: academia like come from, is just that it it's so
Speaker 1: inconceivable that like in like people who subscribe to the
Speaker 1: scientific method would get to a place where this sort
Speaker 1: of idea could even be like put down seriously and
Speaker 1: like put a place where they publish it. And then
Speaker 1: like a person asked like very basic questions, they're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we hate it. We don't like the study
Speaker 1: and like none of this really makes sense to us either.
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, then, who the funk are you
Speaker 1: working on behalf of? Like yeah, basically, I mean he
Speaker 1: because they'll use this study. I mean, like, municipalities will
Speaker 1: use this study to bolster their argument that this is
Speaker 1: the solution, and they'll be able to pound the table
Speaker 1: and say to Harvard professors in their analysis said even
Speaker 1: at Harvard, Okay, they're saying that the solution is to
Speaker 1: increase the police presence across the country and it's well,
Speaker 1: I mean the one and the one thing that I've
Speaker 1: that's positive. It's like that the story likes somewhat evolved
Speaker 1: to the point where like more people are now like
Speaker 1: like openly questioning these two professors, like even at Harvard
Speaker 1: and what's going on exactly Like this is act because
Speaker 1: apparently this was sent out like to disseminate it to students,
Speaker 1: um like right around the time of George Floyd's murder. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like and they're like, yeah, and we know everyone's hurting.
Speaker 1: You should maybe check this thing out too, Like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of ways we can move forward with this.
Speaker 1: And that is so because that was the that was
Speaker 1: the answer to the black Lives Matter movement that the
Speaker 1: mainstream media wanted to go with and ultimately did go with.
Speaker 1: Is like, yeah, but police are necessary. There are only answer,
Speaker 1: and so we just got to double down on police
Speaker 1: because crime is going to go up if we even
Speaker 1: question or protest against the police. Which, by the way,
Speaker 1: there's new stat new statistics that show there's no rising crime.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they the whole thing, like the liberal and
Speaker 1: quote it's media bias, the liberal bias of mainstream institutions,
Speaker 1: like they are all part of the same thing. They might.
Speaker 1: There are probably a lot of maybe even a majority
Speaker 1: of left leaning people who work at these institutions, but
Speaker 1: the financial incentives, the structures in place, like Harvard's Harvard's
Speaker 1: president for five years was Larry Summers, who is like
Speaker 1: an economist who was like on who while he was
Speaker 1: the Harvard's president, like flew on the Lolita Express and
Speaker 1: is like a you know, just a finance studge who
Speaker 1: like believes everything that like is just a mouthpiece for
Speaker 1: the finance industry and like trickle down economics and ship
Speaker 1: like that. Like he's just the the most you know,
Speaker 1: and Harvard's fucking what's it called Dowry or whatever the
Speaker 1: down is Basically a down is like fifty three billion
Speaker 1: dollars like that. It doesn't like they tell you everything
Speaker 1: you need to know. The only people telling you that
Speaker 1: they have a leftist bias are right leaning people who
Speaker 1: are good at this ship. Like that's what. That's another
Speaker 1: thing that like I'm just tired of like people being like, well,
Speaker 1: the people on the right are idiots. No, they're good
Speaker 1: at the lie that they're telling, and like they're succeeding
Speaker 1: at convincing people and like we need to take it
Speaker 1: seriously and like, well, I mean there's but their strategy
Speaker 1: just to be as cynical as possible and like and
Speaker 1: and very intentionally, I think the issue is the only
Speaker 1: way to combat that isn't to like do the democrat
Speaker 1: version of cynicism. It's to actually begin telling the fucking truth.
Speaker 1: Because that's different than just pointing to all these fucking
Speaker 1: racist myths and ship and you can say, you know
Speaker 1: what is actually going to like help us our X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z that doesn't conform to like what the
Speaker 1: defined platfor form is of you, like the d n
Speaker 1: C or whatever at the moment. Yeah, so, but I
Speaker 1: mean I think the one again, I just I like
Speaker 1: that despite that, right, there are still even like the
Speaker 1: kids that are like at Harvard are also at least
Speaker 1: there's it doesn't seem like all the students like we
Speaker 1: we stand with our professor's analysis, Like the students are
Speaker 1: somewhat starting to begin to be like this is this
Speaker 1: is not good work at all and and other faculty.
Speaker 1: But what that means in terms of like the publication
Speaker 1: and the damage that's been done and who knows what
Speaker 1: many how many decisions have been made based off of that,
Speaker 1: like as someone who you know, just like having been
Speaker 1: in the professional world and met a lot of people
Speaker 1: from like supposedly elite universities, and you know people from
Speaker 1: like not elite universities and some people like I've never
Speaker 1: once checked on a resume like what someone's educational background is.
Speaker 1: I'm like, thank you, I appreciate that you never but
Speaker 1: but like do you do you do you guys ever
Speaker 1: get this like sense of like the more elite the university,
Speaker 1: the more in the bag they are with like the finance,
Speaker 1: the world of finance, and just like that that is
Speaker 1: like this prerequisite understanding of like how the world works.
Speaker 1: Like that it feels like data. There's data that says
Speaker 1: that the so I know a little bit about the
Speaker 1: venture capital industry because that's confund cannabis because you can't
Speaker 1: get a bank loan and you can't get money through
Speaker 1: regular banks. And Julia Boston is a an announcer, one
Speaker 1: of the anchors on CNBC, and she just wrote a
Speaker 1: book called One Women Lead. And in this book it
Speaker 1: talks about how I'm not I'm not going to remember
Speaker 1: the exact numbers, but it's something so stunning. It's like
Speaker 1: sevent of all of the partners who can write checks,
Speaker 1: who have the ability to like write a check out
Speaker 1: a venture capital firm went to Harvard or Stanford, not
Speaker 1: just not just like IVY, like like those two schools
Speaker 1: you are, we're se and they're all white, and they're
Speaker 1: all men, and that's who writes checks and that's why
Speaker 1: women get two of venture capital funding. Of venture capital
Speaker 1: funding goes to men. So I I, you know, just
Speaker 1: an extra added little cherry on top for your theory.
Speaker 1: I mean, like yeah that I wish that stat was
Speaker 1: like you know, you know of billionaire class traders go
Speaker 1: went to Stanford or Harvard, Well that's what we need.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like Ze Gang, any anybody who's like
Speaker 1: from this world, Like I would love to just like
Speaker 1: have a segment on this show that is like, you know,
Speaker 1: just spying on these motherfucker's and like telling the truths
Speaker 1: about what this ship is going on, what is going on,
Speaker 1: because like I have lots of you know, suspicions based
Speaker 1: on like those people that I've met, but like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like just I don't know, like it's a different world view.
Speaker 1: I know, somebody who went to Stanford and went into
Speaker 1: VC ship and you know, like start when Stanford hedge
Speaker 1: funds then startups. Okay, that was their path and they're
Speaker 1: like a sweet person, not like hateful or anything. But
Speaker 1: the way they look at the world is they get
Speaker 1: to work and they start they start making numbers move.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's really I mean, like because I've even asked it,
Speaker 1: I'm like like, like it excites you, and it's like yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. But also just to take something from nothing
Speaker 1: and grow it too. It's also really fun to see
Speaker 1: and to work on something like that too. So there's
Speaker 1: like a I don't know, I mean, like this person
Speaker 1: is not as cynical in saying it, but what they
Speaker 1: what they engage in, is part and parcel of this
Speaker 1: like broader thing but there, but their their worldview is
Speaker 1: a little more, it's less it's less dark to them.
Speaker 1: It's just more benign what they're doing. But I do
Speaker 1: think it's like a capitalist supremacist like wealth supremacist idea
Speaker 1: that is at the heart of this. And like that's
Speaker 1: also where the medium myth comes from. That it's like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: the people who voted for Trump are fucking idiots, Like
Speaker 1: they're just you know, like we can just dismiss all
Speaker 1: of them as idiots were the only smart ones, and
Speaker 1: therefore we're making decisions on people's behalf. Like you really
Speaker 1: do see some of that, Like I'm randy and thinking
Speaker 1: like kind of creep in when you're talking to these
Speaker 1: like ivy educated people that just I don't know. All
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say is that the people who studied who
Speaker 1: published this bullshit study are to Harvard professors. The meta
Speaker 1: study is from professors of Cincinnati and University of Florida
Speaker 1: and go back. Yeah, I'm fucking trusting the state universities
Speaker 1: and the local universities much more than I am a
Speaker 1: a university that was headed by Larry Summers and has
Speaker 1: a fifty three billion dollar endowment. But yeah, class traders,
Speaker 1: hit us up on Twitter, hit us at the I'll
Speaker 1: open the d M s. Just I want I want
Speaker 1: to hear the stories. Y'all got all right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break. Okay, we'll come back, and we're back
Speaker 1: and forward the end of the Toward the end of
Speaker 1: last week, Oprah went from her her initial position New York.
Speaker 1: New York Magazine reached out and we're like, hey, so
Speaker 1: this monster that you helped create is running for Senate
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, and her response was, one of the great
Speaker 1: things about our democracy is that every citizen can decide
Speaker 1: to run for public office. Mem at Oz has made
Speaker 1: that decision, and now it's up to the residents of
Speaker 1: Pennsylvania to decide who will represent him. M So not
Speaker 1: not very strong take. But Oprah at the end of
Speaker 1: last week did come out and endorsed Jhon Fetterman, which
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if that's gonna change
Speaker 1: anyone's mind. It does feel like it's like the Fetterman
Speaker 1: side looking for a mainstream media win because the mainstream
Speaker 1: media has just been beating the ship out of them
Speaker 1: as soon as they got their sights on them and
Speaker 1: saw a little bit of weakness. And but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I still think Fetterman is going to do better than
Speaker 1: whatever the mainstream media is assuming because he actually has policies.
Speaker 1: Plenty went up, like demonstrably after the after the debate.
Speaker 1: The debate where everyone was like, oh my yeah, because
Speaker 1: the other thing they when they're asking people about it
Speaker 1: to like seventy of people knew somebody who had been
Speaker 1: through a stroke. Yeah, motherfucker, So they weren't like they're like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: like that ship happens, and I'm not like that is
Speaker 1: not a foreign concept to me, that you are mortal,
Speaker 1: so and especially something as common as that, So like
Speaker 1: it didn't quite That's what was so bizarre about that.
Speaker 1: Like with Oprah, I don't know, if you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how much weight it's going to carry, and
Speaker 1: I don't even know honestly, like doing some both sides
Speaker 1: about this, like like to start off, like let the
Speaker 1: people decide. It's like one guy is forced birth. Yes,
Speaker 1: like let's be real, what a woman's right. He's not
Speaker 1: forcing anyone her husband, her doctor, and her local politician.
Speaker 1: That's what it was. That's what it was. And so
Speaker 1: like it is it is a little bit like like
Speaker 1: where the funk were you? But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping most people aren't like being like, well, you
Speaker 1: know me, I can't make a decision until Oprah says something,
Speaker 1: you know, so hopefully it's not you know, necessarily going
Speaker 1: to count plus plus or minus in terms of winding sales.
Speaker 1: I think this is more mainstream media just being like
Speaker 1: they're idiots. Man. They'll do whatever Oprah tells them, and
Speaker 1: they'll read a book that she read commends because they
Speaker 1: recognize that other people will probably be reading that book
Speaker 1: and it's fun to read stuff. I don't know that
Speaker 1: they're going to vote because she did sort and her
Speaker 1: her statement of endorsing John Feederman, like the useful thing
Speaker 1: would have been like, look, I've seen some ship. This
Speaker 1: guy's like a bad person, like you shouldn't trust his
Speaker 1: like medical credentials or like his you shouldn't trust him.
Speaker 1: And instead she just like kind of voice support for
Speaker 1: Fetterman so as not to to burn the bridge. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I speaking of like his marijuana policy, culd he's going
Speaker 1: after Federman, remember that ad and like the bomb came
Speaker 1: out of and it's like he wants to legalize marijuana.
Speaker 1: And it's just so funny too, because this is why
Speaker 1: more than like him just being like just terrible on
Speaker 1: all the issues, it's the fact that this guy has
Speaker 1: no like sound beliefs at all dr oz because on
Speaker 1: when one breath, he'll be like, I don't know about
Speaker 1: his lead goalies all drugs policy, while later on being like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm supportive medical marijuana. This is a quote
Speaker 1: quote I think with the doctor's involvement, especially for seniors
Speaker 1: who have end of life issue suffering from pain. I
Speaker 1: think it's a safer solution than, for example, in narcotics
Speaker 1: in many cases, but it has to be studied. But
Speaker 1: then going right back, now, you want to legalize everything,
Speaker 1: Like he's not a he's a fucking creature. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: an ego creature. But it's but you know he's he's
Speaker 1: good at scoffing at somebody recovering from a stroke on
Speaker 1: a debate stage. So that's I guess counts for something.
Speaker 1: I mean he ran attack ads on the fact that
Speaker 1: he had gone through gone through a stroke anyways. I
Speaker 1: mean there's more stuff, like you could argue that Oprah
Speaker 1: is like a proto Joe Rogan, who would like kind
Speaker 1: of show up and say a bunch of medically dubious,
Speaker 1: Like said, someone would show up, she'd have an expert
Speaker 1: on a Jordan Peterson stand in in this case, Jen
Speaker 1: McCarthy or doctor Oz, and they'd say a bunch of
Speaker 1: like medical medically dubious bullshit about how like there's a
Speaker 1: pill lit'll melt your tummy fat away. And she was
Speaker 1: just kind of smiling nod because that you know, she
Speaker 1: wasn't saying it but she was platforming people who were
Speaker 1: and then which is and like, yeah, she's h to
Speaker 1: mean Dr Phil too, We've seen where that goes. And
Speaker 1: like watching his like later, like every now and then,
Speaker 1: I like to see what Dr Phil is talking about,
Speaker 1: and it's always that's it's not even helpful anymore. Like
Speaker 1: half of it is like is my trans child a problem?
Speaker 1: Like is like the headline and you're like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck is Dr Oz or Dr Phil even doing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't know what about you, Allen. Do you
Speaker 1: get most of your medical takes just from Google like
Speaker 1: Jenny McCarthy does and then goes on to Oprah and
Speaker 1: talks about being anti backed. No, I go to the actor.
Speaker 1: Oh Phil, it's hard though. I mean I think that
Speaker 1: I am a person that grew up like whatever the
Speaker 1: doctor said, definitely do it. And I had a really
Speaker 1: bad accident. I was down in New Orleans for jazz
Speaker 1: Fest and riding a bike and I fell off. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't a very dramatic accident, but I had a
Speaker 1: lot of really bad injuries. I broke sixteen of my teeth.
Speaker 1: I tore up my shoulder and broke my ribs and
Speaker 1: my wrist and just was having all of these issues
Speaker 1: and the side effects that the medicine we're giving me,
Speaker 1: we're making me sick. I like, I hit my head
Speaker 1: because I fainted after taking painkillers that they've given me
Speaker 1: at the emergency room. And so it just I think
Speaker 1: that when when you have like a medical crisis and
Speaker 1: you're not getting help from the system, I can see
Speaker 1: and understand how people look for other sources and it's
Speaker 1: hard to try to construct a foundation when they're sort
Speaker 1: of some fundamental things that just don't make sense. And yeah,
Speaker 1: so I I understand like the impulse for it, but
Speaker 1: I think that maybe the doctor isn't the best to
Speaker 1: be the senator, but yeah, or someone who I think
Speaker 1: it's like in the process though of seeing like how
Speaker 1: what they say on TV can help bolster like their
Speaker 1: brand and if it's like aligned with something they're like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, that really juices things. If I kind of
Speaker 1: keep going in this direction, I think, which is really
Speaker 1: you know, think the incentive incentivization of like dubious medical
Speaker 1: advice is also just its own issue too. But I
Speaker 1: think that's a really smart point that like we have
Speaker 1: these celebrity doctors at a time when America's health care
Speaker 1: system is like failing American people to such a degree
Speaker 1: that we're just like TV doctor, what do you have
Speaker 1: to say? What do you yeah? Yeah, oh right, or
Speaker 1: a reflection of where we are, where someone is like
Speaker 1: I don't know, because I can't afford to go to
Speaker 1: the actual doctor, I tune into doctor Oz as a
Speaker 1: fucking last resort, and I think that's all. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's very bleak reality that we existed. Nobody ever said
Speaker 1: Oprah is not a genius for like figuring out what
Speaker 1: people are going to gravitate towards, you know, and TV doctors.
Speaker 1: She she was right that they were going to gravitate
Speaker 1: towards them, because they're just wrong. And her choice of
Speaker 1: who the TV doctor should be Jenny McCarthy, was a
Speaker 1: bad choice. Yeah, especially like that that interaction where she's
Speaker 1: just like being asking her, uh, well, where did you
Speaker 1: find that research? And Jenny McCarthy says, the first thing
Speaker 1: I did Google, I put an autism and I started
Speaker 1: my research and then replied, thank God for Google. And
Speaker 1: she says, I don't tell him. You don't think she
Speaker 1: was being sarcastic, like you that would be the funny
Speaker 1: thing to say to be like, oh, great, well, thank
Speaker 1: god for Google that started you down to say earnestly, yeah,
Speaker 1: thank god for Google. Right at audience, Wow, give it
Speaker 1: up for Google. Right, and they're killer drones on their way,
Speaker 1: ellen As always, truly a pleasure having you on the
Speaker 1: daily Zeitgeist? Where can people find you? Follow you all
Speaker 1: that good stuff? Thank you for having me. The podcast
Speaker 1: is called how to Do the Pot. It's available where
Speaker 1: ever you listen, and we're at do the Pot dot com.
Speaker 1: You can follow us on all the socials at do
Speaker 1: the Pot. And if you live in Arkansas, Maryland, Missouri,
Speaker 1: North Dakota or South Dakota, cannabis is on the ballot
Speaker 1: for adult ease legalization. Medical is already allowed. So please
Speaker 1: take a look and everybody vote yeah yeah, more money
Speaker 1: in the coffers. And is there a tweet or some
Speaker 1: of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes,
Speaker 1: I found one this morning that I wish that it
Speaker 1: wasn't the truth for me, but it it was like
Speaker 1: my waiting uh in Kart at my Amazon cart is
Speaker 1: like about one point three million dollars right now for
Speaker 1: all the things that I have put in there, Like
Speaker 1: when you have a new baby. There's just so much
Speaker 1: you throw in there, and I still feel like they're
Speaker 1: probably bottles, you know, for newborns, and it's it's a
Speaker 1: big number now so I could relate. I need to
Speaker 1: go in and do some deleting. Miles, where can people
Speaker 1: find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? I
Speaker 1: guess Twitter. I mean I'm not really posting anything, just
Speaker 1: I'm just watching the fire from the side of gray. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: check Jack and I out on our basketball podcast. Miles
Speaker 1: and Jack got mad because we do have Matt Boosty's
Speaker 1: you want to see us dunk. I gotta pay us.
Speaker 1: You gotta pay us one million dollars and then we
Speaker 1: will met. We will let it fly. And also yes,
Speaker 1: exactly and my weed in reality TV Synergy podcast for
Speaker 1: twenty day Fiance when we talk about ninety day fiance
Speaker 1: and all that good trashy ship. Some tweets that I like,
Speaker 1: really one of the first one, it's it's from Brody
Speaker 1: Group to at Brody Group to tweet it. Free speech
Speaker 1: defenders are never like my right to call myself prom
Speaker 1: queen of the fog. They're always like our men in
Speaker 1: blue die from Fetaneal Tricker treating every day and we
Speaker 1: won't let them say the N word, which really feels
Speaker 1: like this fucking state of things. So yeah, that that's
Speaker 1: just kind of what to Twitter is at the moment. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just like dumb tweets like favorite movie lines. And
Speaker 1: it's the scene where Roy Scheider first sees Jaws and
Speaker 1: to frame of that and he's doing the chumming, Jaws
Speaker 1: comes out of the water and then it's him saying,
Speaker 1: holy sh it, it's Jaws instead of I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna need a bigger boat and that is where I'm at.
Speaker 1: Only ship, it's Jaws. You can find that was the
Speaker 1: subtext of that line. By the way, you can find
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find
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Speaker 1: the information that we talked about today's episode as what
Speaker 1: was the song that we think you might enjoy? Miles,
Speaker 1: what song do we think people might enjoy? Uh? This
Speaker 1: is a track since election day tomorrow and you know
Speaker 1: we want to avoid as much fuckery as possible. This
Speaker 1: track called clean Race, you know by Scotty. This is
Speaker 1: a reggae like Let's run a clean race and we're
Speaker 1: not talking about racial ship. That's what I said. That's why,
Speaker 1: that's why I prefaced it with the election is coming up.
Speaker 1: We don't want fucory. Let's run a clean race. Here.
Speaker 1: This is by Scotty. This is from the Mighty Trojan
Speaker 1: sound like Trojan Vaults album. So just some nice reggae,
Speaker 1: you know, some deep step. Put that on, uh and
Speaker 1: prepare yourself to vote or turn in your ballot or
Speaker 1: whatever and maybe how to be confronted by us cost
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