Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season to sixty two,
Speaker 1: episode three of to Day, Las Guys Day. In production
Speaker 1: of by Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we
Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Wednesday,
Speaker 1: November nine two, which is our annual bi annual Schrodeger's
Speaker 1: Cat episode where we don't know what has happened because
Speaker 1: we're recording this before y'all are listening to it, so
Speaker 1: you know it maybe a theocracy, the red Wave may
Speaker 1: have not materialized. We don't know. Ye who knows, But
Speaker 1: what we do know is eleven nine National Scrapple Day,
Speaker 1: National Louisian. Okay, just let it put put that on
Speaker 1: your calendar, National Scrapple Day. The and that is we
Speaker 1: we decided that was very regional, right Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: we don't eat scrapple out here, that's for sure. I mean,
Speaker 1: as a Californian, I know of s apple from people
Speaker 1: from people further afield in the United States. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a Philly, South Jersey, you know, just a
Speaker 1: waste meat extraction, a waste meat the but somehow they
Speaker 1: normalized it in the Philly area and people are still
Speaker 1: gobbling it down. Yeah. I love waste meat. Love waste meat,
Speaker 1: love a good waste meat. Anyways, my name is Jack
Speaker 1: O'Brien a k last time here before couldn't look him
Speaker 1: in the eye. He's just so goddamn old. His skin
Speaker 1: makes me cry. And now my boyf feder Man getting
Speaker 1: wrecked in these ads. I want decent healthcare, just some
Speaker 1: fucking healthcare. But I'm a freak. I'm some weird Oh
Speaker 1: how the funk are we get Lambeau? I don't belong here.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just some freak, you know. I guess
Speaker 1: I'm just some freak up on healthcare anyways. That is
Speaker 1: courtesy of Mr Lugubrious Alexi luvia Twitter, who asked where
Speaker 1: if you're If you're leaving Twitter, how do you how
Speaker 1: do we do a KS? I think I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to join the discord. I think that's that's my next step.
Speaker 1: I'm also not leaving Twitter. I'm gonna I'm gonna stay
Speaker 1: in and watch it burned down around me personally. You
Speaker 1: want to be the meme of everything's fine, Everything's fine here? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co
Speaker 1: host Mr Miles grag right from southern California, where the
Speaker 1: winning Powerball ticket was sold. It's your boy, the Black
Speaker 1: and Theese experimental visual artist, your boy Kasama who did
Speaker 1: not win the powerball ticket. But I know where it
Speaker 1: was sold, and we know what was sold in the
Speaker 1: area place I'm I've seen before, I've driven past in
Speaker 1: my life, and it's so funny. This morning, I was like,
Speaker 1: what if I bought it in one and I was
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of how long ago, without
Speaker 1: telling anybody I actually wanted. Well, now you're teasing. It
Speaker 1: seems like you're teasing that you did buy it and win.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. We shall see this. That's
Speaker 1: not the only thing we don't know today. We don't
Speaker 1: know who won as of I just hope it's like
Speaker 1: a VC, a venture capital fund that bought like three
Speaker 1: hundred thousand tickets just snatched. That's who I want to
Speaker 1: see a win for. Anyways, Miles, we are thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined once again in our third and fourth seat
Speaker 1: by two of the most brilliant hosts doing it in podcasting,
Speaker 1: the audio arts, among many other things. They're the host
Speaker 1: of the truly great award winning podcast The Stoop. It's
Speaker 1: Lela Day and Hannah Bah bah you guys, Hey, hello, hello,
Speaker 1: are here? You are here? Thank you for having us again? Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you for being on Wild whilst I am here. Well,
Speaker 1: that's I'm glad we're talking before you duckt Miles. Last
Speaker 1: time you said there are there any episodes that Miles
Speaker 1: won't be on? Could we come on that just to
Speaker 1: get our get our feet wet, make sure we're up
Speaker 1: to it. How are y'all doing the Where are you?
Speaker 1: Where are you coming to us from today? Calie in California?
Speaker 1: Both of us in California. I am in the north
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area, the area, and I'm in l A. Okay,
Speaker 1: And it's another candidate, another candidate who may have bought
Speaker 1: the powerball ticket. We we don't know. We were waiting.
Speaker 1: I'm waiting. Yeah, I'm also not telling whether I bought it.
Speaker 1: So do you think okay? I mean, obviously we didn't
Speaker 1: win it, But how long do you think speak for yourself?
Speaker 1: What would okay, fine thought experiment Jack, in case you
Speaker 1: want it or anyone? What would your strategy if you
Speaker 1: won that two billion? Would you be husha by about
Speaker 1: it and get everything in order, get rid of it
Speaker 1: so before anybody can hit you up for anything like
Speaker 1: I gave so much of it away, I'm sorry, there's
Speaker 1: no more money there, or how would you go about it?
Speaker 1: Because I think every person does this has the thing
Speaker 1: like what would I do if I want? I'm more
Speaker 1: interested in, like the mechanics of winning and who you
Speaker 1: tell or don't tell? What you do with it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be hush a by just because I like
Speaker 1: that phrase. I would be okay, hushaby like husha by. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would be hush hush too, definitely hush Yeah. What
Speaker 1: would you do? I'm thinking I probably would tell the
Speaker 1: world and then regret it the next day, come out
Speaker 1: the woodwork. But that first day, that first day I
Speaker 1: got to tell people on Twitter but elsewhere and my
Speaker 1: what's up chance? All the family and Africa, they're gonna know,
Speaker 1: They're gonna want to share, and then the next day
Speaker 1: I'll regret it. Right. I think California has a lot
Speaker 1: that you have to say. You have to name yourself
Speaker 1: camp being anonymous. I don't think you can be anonymous.
Speaker 1: I think if you if you buy the ticket through
Speaker 1: I think that's right that might I think I did
Speaker 1: very lazy research on this one time, the one time
Speaker 1: that we bought the powerball ticket. Oh no, yeah, you
Speaker 1: gotta reveal yourself. Yeah, you gotta reveal yourself the one
Speaker 1: time before this time when I may or may not
Speaker 1: have bought about alien Yeah right, I'm probably I'm going
Speaker 1: to wear the masks and stuff they go on and
Speaker 1: they wearing masks. My name, isn't that attention? Yeah? Beat Macromay,
Speaker 1: Yeah that's what That's what I would say, is my name?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, we are going to get to know
Speaker 1: you both a little bit better at a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we are going to talk about what we do know
Speaker 1: about election Day so far, which is yesterday just fuckery.
Speaker 1: We know there was some fuckery, Yeah, attempts at it
Speaker 1: for sure. I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you if it's
Speaker 1: time for a meat a social media blackout around election
Speaker 1: day like other countries have. And then we're just going
Speaker 1: to dive into stupid stuff like movie theater candy. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not stupid. Actually, it's an important stuff forever drops
Speaker 1: in two days. It's important what we're going to be
Speaker 1: eating at the movie theaters. But before we get to
Speaker 1: any of it. We do like to ask our guests,
Speaker 1: what is something from your search history? You know? You know.
Speaker 1: I was right this morning digg into my search history
Speaker 1: and the one of the last things I searched was
Speaker 1: can an egg fry on the sidewalk? Oh? Yeah, right?
Speaker 1: Because I grew up in Las Vegas and I always
Speaker 1: would tell people, I kind of brag about it, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we can fry eggs on the sidewalk. We can fry
Speaker 1: eggs on the sidewalk. And I said that to someone
Speaker 1: the other day and they go, can you really fry
Speaker 1: an egg on the sidewalk? And I go, yeah, we
Speaker 1: used to do as a kid, because we put them
Speaker 1: out there and they would kind of get bubbly. But
Speaker 1: I don't ever remember it frying. Like googled it and
Speaker 1: it said the temperature has to be a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty eight degrees for an egg to fry, and sidewalks
Speaker 1: can reach up to But I don't really think, yes,
Speaker 1: I know, we're almost about come on. What about blacktop though,
Speaker 1: because the color would retain more right exactly, That's what
Speaker 1: I was thinking. I lived in Houston when I was little,
Speaker 1: and the weather man always used to take an egg
Speaker 1: on his little weather cast, and and and crack it
Speaker 1: on the sidewalk and it would fry. So we have
Speaker 1: been lied to from that time, right, I mean even
Speaker 1: the weather man. Yeah, well, I think we're headed in
Speaker 1: that direction, though, I think, like, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a fixed upper limit for how fat how the sidewalk gets.
Speaker 1: I think we're come on climate change. Let's fry some eggs.
Speaker 1: And then the one that I always heard when I
Speaker 1: lived in cold places was that it's so cold that
Speaker 1: you can spit and your spit will freeze before it
Speaker 1: hits the ground. Did y'all ever hear that? No, But
Speaker 1: it's I think it's also a lie. I think it's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is a level of cold where you can feel
Speaker 1: your tear ducts freezing. But I don't think that the
Speaker 1: freezing happens so quickly that it will freeze before it
Speaker 1: hits the crap. I think I also lazily google about it,
Speaker 1: like well, like if you put pressure like near your
Speaker 1: tear duct like you could expel like an icicle frost.
Speaker 1: That feels like, yeah, it just feels like body horror,
Speaker 1: like like my insides are turning to icicles that I
Speaker 1: could I will never live in a in a place
Speaker 1: that cold. I'm going to search that on the TikTok.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, I just like that. It's like almost
Speaker 1: like a nine eleven style conspiracy theory with the sidewalk,
Speaker 1: which like, well, the sidewalk can only get to Hunter,
Speaker 1: therefore it cannot melt steel beans. And you're like, whoa
Speaker 1: okay started, how about you? Um? Okay for me, And
Speaker 1: this is for all my fellow chemo brains out there.
Speaker 1: Our brains get foggy sometimes and there's certain memories that
Speaker 1: like I can't remember if it was a dream or
Speaker 1: if it really happened to me. And so last night
Speaker 1: I had this distinct memory of seeing prints on stage,
Speaker 1: but it was just like at George Mason University's auditorium,
Speaker 1: which could not have been true, but I have this
Speaker 1: memory of that. So I often have to Google. I
Speaker 1: have to go to Google to see if my memory
Speaker 1: was right or not. Sure enough, George Mason University. In
Speaker 1: January two thousand, the Amazing Prince held a concert auditorium.
Speaker 1: It was a time when he used to pick these obscure,
Speaker 1: weird little spaces that no one would really know about.
Speaker 1: So not really stadiums. That's why I was like this,
Speaker 1: this has got to have been a dream. But it
Speaker 1: turned out to be true. I actually googled it. Did
Speaker 1: Prince play George Mason University? Oh wow? And you got
Speaker 1: to that? Yeah? I was there apparently apparently, Yeah, Jack
Speaker 1: did you did you ever go to and like the
Speaker 1: what was it the twenty one night Stand? How many
Speaker 1: nights was it at the at the Forum? Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was a there was a lot of nights in a
Speaker 1: row and I missed every single one. It was like
Speaker 1: album were talking about I think no it's called one
Speaker 1: night stand or and it was all in l a
Speaker 1: like this is in two thousand eleven inches before um
Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah, and like they were doing like I
Speaker 1: remember my dad three times. Yeah. Everybody was going and
Speaker 1: telling me to go, and I was like I just
Speaker 1: moved here like this probably happens all the time and
Speaker 1: Icon of Venues. I love it here. But everybody who went,
Speaker 1: like you just you're constantly running into people who are like,
Speaker 1: do you go lest night? It was people's lives were changed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's stick with you, Hannah. What is something you think
Speaker 1: is overrated? All right, I'm gonna do another one. I'm no,
Speaker 1: I'm going to get dragged, and I know I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get slammed. But sparkling water m hmm, or and or
Speaker 1: mineral water? Why just why? I still don't understand it.
Speaker 1: It's not just that I don't like it. I don't
Speaker 1: see the necessity. Why why? Why? Why not? Just water?
Speaker 1: Carbonated water is a frivolous pursuit, thank you. It bothers
Speaker 1: me to be asked sparkling or still of course still? Anyway?
Speaker 1: I just confused. They say sparkling or still or flat?
Speaker 1: Don't they say flat too? I'm just like, that is
Speaker 1: flat old sparkling water that you let get flattening? You're
Speaker 1: serving that? Or is it totally overrated? All the shows
Speaker 1: with the posh women with their sparkling water. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't stand it anymore. And that's my story and
Speaker 1: I'm sticking to Okay, Now, tell me how does this
Speaker 1: come from? For you? You're like, if things have bubbles
Speaker 1: in it, there better be flavored. Thank you. I know
Speaker 1: I'm asking. Is that sort of the logic a little bit? Yes?
Speaker 1: I just think water should not be messed with. Water
Speaker 1: is water is water, and it shouldn't be messed around
Speaker 1: with and that's all. And you're right, if it's bubbly,
Speaker 1: give me some Limona flavor or something, thank you. Okay.
Speaker 1: It's like sort of the way my mom would talk
Speaker 1: about it from being from Japan, where she's like, I
Speaker 1: don't understand why people drink bubble water. She's like, it's water,
Speaker 1: you need to water, and she had she's a very
Speaker 1: like rigid thing, and she's like, oh no, like if
Speaker 1: you offered her like spartners assumption, that is the Bougee water, right,
Speaker 1: like of course you want it. Of course, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm being generous and giving you the sparkling water,
Speaker 1: right right right, not like the you know, the peasant water,
Speaker 1: right you know. What I just found out also is
Speaker 1: the Seltzer water. And like all those things have carbonic
Speaker 1: acid in it. I have a friend who's a dentist
Speaker 1: and they were like, yeah, don't drink like bubbly water
Speaker 1: and think it's the same as drinking regular water. It's
Speaker 1: really bad for your teeth, like carbonic acid. So another
Speaker 1: another mark against it. Thank you dentist and Miles Mom,
Speaker 1: Yes it can be on the WhatsApp chat. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is something you think is overrated. I know that that, yeah,
Speaker 1: will relate to this, Miles, and I know you'll relate
Speaker 1: to this. But collagen creams, collagen creams for the face,
Speaker 1: thank you? Right, I know. Let me tell you why. Then,
Speaker 1: let me tell you why. There have been multiple studies
Speaker 1: that have shown that these creams with collagen why applied
Speaker 1: on your skin? There the molecules aren't big enough to
Speaker 1: penetrate into your skin. It's been like proven and studied
Speaker 1: and all these things. Yet it's like crazy how much
Speaker 1: it is available and how many people are buying it,
Speaker 1: and how many people are living by. You gotta buy
Speaker 1: this cream. You gotta buy the cream, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: just feel like now every time I see it, I'm like, uh,
Speaker 1: this is scam. I'm not going to fall for the
Speaker 1: Oki dok. This collagen cream don't work, but I might
Speaker 1: try the ingustible like liquid collagen. What about you guys?
Speaker 1: Are you guys using collagen at all? Well? As you
Speaker 1: as you know, I tried to sell you my personal
Speaker 1: brand of collagen cream before we started recording. So I
Speaker 1: am feeling a little attacked, right, But I don't use it,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. It's a snake oil. But I'm a royal
Speaker 1: jelly person myself. Yeah, so it looks. I mean some
Speaker 1: say it's genetics. I would agree probably that it's genetics,
Speaker 1: but I like to say it's from rubbing these jellies
Speaker 1: on my face. Wait, what is royal jelly? Jelly fist? Hey,
Speaker 1: jelly fis? What is royal jelly? Royal jelly is? Like
Speaker 1: I know it because in Japan, like an Asian like
Speaker 1: skin care products, people are going wild for royal jelly,
Speaker 1: like it's like comes from honey Bees. It's like a
Speaker 1: secretion where they're like, oh, like it's fantastic for I don't.
Speaker 1: All I know is royal jelly was a big fat
Speaker 1: I remember witnessing as a kid and like my mom
Speaker 1: and aunts were like jelly and then I just saw
Speaker 1: Bees on the cover and I know it's from Bees.
Speaker 1: But apparently the people talk about it for skin is
Speaker 1: amazing today. Yeah, look, or you know, just go with whatever.
Speaker 1: Cindy Crawford is using dr ol bogy that I see
Speaker 1: you late at night on TV. Don't follow these celebrities.
Speaker 1: Who knows what they do in them clinics? Yeah, seriously,
Speaker 1: what is something, Leela that you think is underrated? I
Speaker 1: also think you guys would totally relate to this. But
Speaker 1: I don't like about this. Yes, the Jerry Curl, Jerry curl.
Speaker 1: I just feel like the Jerry curl didn't have It's
Speaker 1: the moment that it needed to have to actually thrive.
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about it, that Jerry curl add
Speaker 1: a texture, added shine. It was a great you know,
Speaker 1: do you guys remember like coming to America. You know
Speaker 1: that was so iconic that it like hurt the Jerry Curl,
Speaker 1: that it hurt the brand h brand because it was
Speaker 1: so just like thorough and funny and timeless. Like Jerry
Speaker 1: curls never bounced back, so to speak. I mean, I
Speaker 1: hear you that might be you might have something there,
Speaker 1: because I just feel like we're always talking about people
Speaker 1: want looser curls, they want more moisture in their hair,
Speaker 1: and the Jerry curl did that. But everyone that had
Speaker 1: a Jerry Carl at one point was completely criticized for
Speaker 1: it and made fun of, right, all the soglow and
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. In actuality, It's like, what
Speaker 1: a lot of people are trying to inspiring that curl pattern.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are trying to expire for it
Speaker 1: to get so I'm like, the Jerry Curl, can we
Speaker 1: bring it back? Can we rebrand it? Right? Because if
Speaker 1: it really was like this like punchline in black comedy
Speaker 1: for a long time, like I remember, even like in
Speaker 1: a Living Color, there was always like it was always
Speaker 1: a character was too much activator trying to spray everything
Speaker 1: around them. I remember there's like people talk. The joke
Speaker 1: was always like everything's greasy now with people getting their
Speaker 1: activator do everywhere, and even like in coming to America,
Speaker 1: the stains at the family left when they got on
Speaker 1: the back of the couch. Yes, So I wonder if
Speaker 1: like yeah that like if comedy or just like pop
Speaker 1: culture just took it to a place where we're like
Speaker 1: because remember I mean our ice Cube had a Jerry Crow.
Speaker 1: Everybody cirl, like even if they just called it something
Speaker 1: else like literally French or something, you know, Nancy, it
Speaker 1: needs the right celebrity to bring it back, like not
Speaker 1: ice Cube, not ice Cube. It can't be because I
Speaker 1: feel like Bruno Mars was kind of rocking it for
Speaker 1: a little bit, but like that was I think we
Speaker 1: needed from We need like Kendrick to drop his next
Speaker 1: album with Jerry Curl would be nice. A great look,
Speaker 1: and I feel like, yeah, the way it came back,
Speaker 1: at least for me was s Curl. Like I remember
Speaker 1: in the early odds, I had a lot of homies
Speaker 1: we were rocking the s Curl who had that texturized
Speaker 1: that was just a little less you know, but it's
Speaker 1: still shiny and a little bit of a looser Curl
Speaker 1: look like texture, but still pretty tight to the wet look. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and wet, wet, wet. Yeah, Yeah, for sure. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, like, you know, I feel like pulp fiction
Speaker 1: tried to reclaim, you know, it tried to reinvigorate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, is it Sam Jackson and could take Jerry
Speaker 1: Curl and John Travolta both tried to make a comeback
Speaker 1: and only Travolta actually got to come back from that movie.
Speaker 1: That's sad. Best Jerry Curl, what the best one? Rick James,
Speaker 1: Rick James, Rick James. Yeah, long, drippy Curl. I mean,
Speaker 1: I still feel like Eric Lassalle in coming to America. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's everything I want need it to be. But then
Speaker 1: that big wet stay and I feel like fucked it up.
Speaker 1: Like after Saw, you were like, well that seems impressed
Speaker 1: and like he was evil and that with that guy,
Speaker 1: it was like both vain and also like he was
Speaker 1: kind of whack, so like it. It was a bad comba.
Speaker 1: The new audition guys did a good job of a
Speaker 1: of a Jerry Curl, I think, right, they were so
Speaker 1: long ago, right, what's there's no current Jerry Curl. There's
Speaker 1: no bring it back, bring it back? Yeah, somebody be
Speaker 1: brave and bringing back to Jerry Curl. Please. Mine is
Speaker 1: going to be more serious and less funny. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but I've been trying to convince so many people around
Speaker 1: me and of my people in immigrant communities around me
Speaker 1: to vote mm hmm, and people still do not understand
Speaker 1: fully or appreciate the power they have. And it's it's
Speaker 1: just the most I think it's so highly underrated. In
Speaker 1: in in kind of my my immediate kind of black
Speaker 1: black immigrant African immigrant communities, there's this feeling of what
Speaker 1: is my vote going to do? Right, There's this feeling
Speaker 1: of like what actual change can happen from me getting
Speaker 1: up and filling this thing out and going you know,
Speaker 1: it's it feels like the system has been formulated to
Speaker 1: kind of keep people that way. There needs to still
Speaker 1: be education a lot of education. And when I say education,
Speaker 1: I don't mean just like these things that you see
Speaker 1: flashing on your screen, people going into communities and sitting
Speaker 1: down with people and saying, if you vote in this election,
Speaker 1: it will affect your life and the life of your
Speaker 1: children in this way a b C. In a culturally
Speaker 1: competent way of speakinging linguistically, you know, appropriate whatever they
Speaker 1: need to do. But that effort is not there. So
Speaker 1: for me, sadly today, on this day, my underrated thing
Speaker 1: is just voting, and more people need to appreciate that right.
Speaker 1: And I also want to call out my immigrant friends
Speaker 1: who you know can't wait to get the citizenship right.
Speaker 1: It's a privilege, it's a high privilege to become a
Speaker 1: citizen of this country. A lot of people don't realize
Speaker 1: that when you're kind of born into it. But the
Speaker 1: things have people have to go through to get citizenship
Speaker 1: in this country. It's a long road. It's it's it's hard,
Speaker 1: it's harsh mentally, it's taxing. And for you to have
Speaker 1: gone that far and stop short of one of the
Speaker 1: rights that have been fought for for generations, rights blood,
Speaker 1: sweat and tears, it just it feels wrong to me.
Speaker 1: It's like there's something missing there. People are so excited
Speaker 1: to become citizens and then this this sacred right. It's
Speaker 1: just like they don't feel they they're worthy or they
Speaker 1: don't have a voice. I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: but that's mine. Sorry, it's a downer, I mean. And
Speaker 1: I also really like the idea of using history or
Speaker 1: like using specific examples of like here's an election that
Speaker 1: affected your life, were like the people in your communities,
Speaker 1: lives people people still they don't get it, or they
Speaker 1: feel like their vote is really not wanted, like it's
Speaker 1: not needed, it's not wanted, or the suppression right all
Speaker 1: of it at the same time, or just this this
Speaker 1: idea and that goes into conspiracy theory world. But everything
Speaker 1: is set before neglection day anyway. I hear that so much,
Speaker 1: like it's all planned by these forces and this system
Speaker 1: and little old me is not going to change the thing, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like this perspective, right, because you
Speaker 1: could rightly say, well, I don't know, I've lived here
Speaker 1: for X amount of years. We've been worried about the
Speaker 1: same thing for decades, and it's actually worse off than
Speaker 1: when I first got here. That like would reinforce that
Speaker 1: kind of someone to become completely apathetic and not want
Speaker 1: to participate. And that's what's like so insidious, right is
Speaker 1: because on one hand that there's like this hope it
Speaker 1: offers people from abroad, and then there's also this like
Speaker 1: very fucked up part of American culture which is reflecting
Speaker 1: to many people who don't look like, you know, white
Speaker 1: Christian America. Yeah, your your your needs are like tertiary
Speaker 1: at best, and it's wild how that feeds into it.
Speaker 1: When at the same time it's really about connecting people
Speaker 1: to understand too, like this is this is part of it.
Speaker 1: I know it feels like that, but there's also a
Speaker 1: there's are some more and more to it than simply
Speaker 1: just throwing our hands up and saying like this this
Speaker 1: this it is what it is, and it's what it's
Speaker 1: always going to be. M Debbie Downer just brought the
Speaker 1: whole show down. We're sorry, We're we're about to take
Speaker 1: a breaking and talk about it. It is that day
Speaker 1: we're gonna gos but we do know the process and
Speaker 1: it's fucked up. So let's take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back, and we're back, and what we know
Speaker 1: as of right now, which isn't very much. We know
Speaker 1: less than you do the listener. You could probably go
Speaker 1: to you know, the New York Times and see a
Speaker 1: story about like a massive red wave for not a
Speaker 1: massive red where's the red wave? We can't. We're in
Speaker 1: the past. We do know there was lots of focury
Speaker 1: though on the day into that. Yeah, I mean, just
Speaker 1: to start off in Florida, the Department of Justice is
Speaker 1: like sending like poll watchers, you know, election observers around
Speaker 1: the country to you know, check on some stuff to
Speaker 1: see if there's anything completely untoward, and Governor de Santis
Speaker 1: and Florida has been basically trying to prevent them from
Speaker 1: observing the election, even though like the Florida like state
Speaker 1: laws say the only people that can enter a polling
Speaker 1: place if you're not voting is law enforcement. And they're like, well,
Speaker 1: these people from the Department of Justice are just uh,
Speaker 1: they're not if they're they're poll We're going to redefine
Speaker 1: them as poll watchers for this, so they are not
Speaker 1: allowed in I'm not sure where any of that has
Speaker 1: shaken up, but there's been a lot of attention on
Speaker 1: South Florida and federal observers there. Georgia I think is
Speaker 1: a really big state to talk about because they have
Speaker 1: gone all in on voter suppression in the wake of
Speaker 1: the election. Governor Kemp, you know, has this SB two
Speaker 1: O two was the bill, and it was basically saying like,
Speaker 1: don't worry with this bill. It's actually gonna be so
Speaker 1: much easier to vote. And it's actually if you're a cheater,
Speaker 1: that who has to worry because it is gonna be
Speaker 1: so hard to cheat. Obviously, what all this looks like
Speaker 1: now is just laws that are nearly tailor made to
Speaker 1: suppress the vote in like black, urban or college town areas,
Speaker 1: or there's younger voters, because that's truly how they're trying
Speaker 1: to eke out these margins. If they can suppress those blocks,
Speaker 1: then maybe they have a numerical advantage. And the law
Speaker 1: actually encouraged individuals to like challenge the validity of registrations.
Speaker 1: Tens of thousands of voter registrations have been challenged, most
Speaker 1: like have been completely thrown out those challenges luckily, but
Speaker 1: again showing you that this is the kind of chaos
Speaker 1: that the bill that the bill is meant to sew
Speaker 1: like on the day just to keep people I'm not
Speaker 1: sure about their own voter registration, but so far the
Speaker 1: turnout in Georgia has been at historic levels and people
Speaker 1: seem undeterred despite that, which I think is always a
Speaker 1: good thing, rather than people you know, kind of throwing
Speaker 1: their hands up and saying, well funk if they're trying
Speaker 1: to make sure that I can't vote anyway. So that
Speaker 1: is moving in a somewhat positive direction. But you add
Speaker 1: to that shortened like times to request an absentee ballot,
Speaker 1: increased i D requirements, and the fact that it's like
Speaker 1: illegal for election officials to even preemptively just send ballots
Speaker 1: out to people. Just there's another way. They're trying to
Speaker 1: get every single numerical advantage right now. So it's it's
Speaker 1: not insignificant because when you look at absentee balots, absentee ballots,
Speaker 1: that's that's a huge hit for students, you know, and
Speaker 1: the elderly and people who have other mobility issues or
Speaker 1: medical conditions that don't allow them to vote in person.
Speaker 1: So taking that whole block out is you know, it
Speaker 1: was with a very intentional purpose, version all done to
Speaker 1: avoid voter fraud, which study after study has indicated doesn't
Speaker 1: exist in any significant sense, but yeah, it motivates like
Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars and hours of work to
Speaker 1: avoid it just because it's a it's a commnian narrative
Speaker 1: for the right and ye yeah, and everything's been super
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory heavy. There's this woman this like she's like
Speaker 1: a walking conspiracy theory running for Secretary of State in Michigan.
Speaker 1: Her name is Christina Karamo. She tried to cite the
Speaker 1: Denes de Susa fucking fantasy like conspiracy documentary two thousand
Speaker 1: Mules to try and pretty much argue that like you know,
Speaker 1: Actuallyology Detroit's votes need to be contested or thrown out
Speaker 1: just based on what I've seen. The judge luckily laughed
Speaker 1: her out of the courtroom, but but they tried it
Speaker 1: along with like clearly on its face absurd material that
Speaker 1: does not reflect reality. But people are like really like
Speaker 1: full voice coming into a court and be like in
Speaker 1: this documentary, it's laying it out there. Like, so we
Speaker 1: have serious concerns about this and any conflicts of interest
Speaker 1: that might arise out of all of that. In Arizona,
Speaker 1: there are already counties that are trying to audit the vote,
Speaker 1: challenge this vote, they're like and go to the whole
Speaker 1: thing that they want to get, like a hand recount.
Speaker 1: Then this has been a huge thing for the for
Speaker 1: maggot Evil is to get in on this like hand
Speaker 1: like hand counted ballots. You know, they say voting amish
Speaker 1: or whatever. And the whole thing is because they believe
Speaker 1: the computers have Venezuelan malware that's against white supremacy. So
Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta just you know, use our hands
Speaker 1: to count this. But just so you know, hand counts
Speaker 1: are fucking bad, Okay. A two thousand eighteen study found
Speaker 1: that when you do a hand count, it's less accurate
Speaker 1: than machine counts, obviously, and they've also found in previous
Speaker 1: accounts that there's around a two error rate, which is
Speaker 1: not insignificant when you're dealing with like hundreds of thousands
Speaker 1: or millions of votes that could easily put an election
Speaker 1: one way or the other. So there is a lot
Speaker 1: and again this all helps down, This all helps to
Speaker 1: slow down the announcement of a winner, which is and
Speaker 1: it's that period where the freaks like Rudy Giuliani you
Speaker 1: get to do their ship stirring song and dance to
Speaker 1: get the base to reject the election. And that's we're
Speaker 1: definitely seeing that playbook basically kind of you know, showing
Speaker 1: its face all over again in these midterms. It's interesting
Speaker 1: to watch Brazil's election because in both cases they voted
Speaker 1: in the morning and at night the results were in
Speaker 1: and it was I think they have more like more
Speaker 1: people buying more into the voting technology, which Bulsonaro was
Speaker 1: you know, arguing was corrupt or whatever, but it's it's
Speaker 1: one of the most efficient electoral systems. So like all
Speaker 1: of this inefficiency is built into the system for a reason.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, yeah, it helps people. It helps
Speaker 1: the media, like around the around the world for the
Speaker 1: most part, Like by law, the French observe a period
Speaker 1: of no electoral press coverage starting forty four hours before
Speaker 1: an election. In the UK, TV and radio stations are
Speaker 1: prohibited from covering the election when the polls are open,
Speaker 1: so like at least like during voting, are not allowed
Speaker 1: to be putting like wild conspiracy theories out on the air,
Speaker 1: or at least that's how it would affect America. Many
Speaker 1: countries there's a blackout period ranging from one to ten
Speaker 1: days before an election in which opinion polls may not
Speaker 1: be publicly released, but like it really feels like social
Speaker 1: media needs to like come together and that this will
Speaker 1: probably not happen unless there's some sort of tragedy or
Speaker 1: act of violence, but needs to come together and be like,
Speaker 1: we're not allowing people to, you know, spread misinformation about
Speaker 1: elections like as the elections are happening, because it's it's
Speaker 1: just it's just getting worse and worse, and it's going
Speaker 1: to keep getting worse and worse. And I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know that there's anything. I mean, maybe a social
Speaker 1: media band doesn't even doesn't even fix it, but it doesn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wish the social media band would fix
Speaker 1: white supremacy like that, but I'm not sure it will
Speaker 1: because you know, what we're witnessing too, is this the
Speaker 1: Republicans biggest fears are coming true, like as a party
Speaker 1: or like as an ideology, right that they that their
Speaker 1: idea of America is not really the dominant one and
Speaker 1: a more diverse, inclusive one is emerging, so they are
Speaker 1: targeting them and trying to hold onto this sad, outdated
Speaker 1: version of the country by any means necessary, even if
Speaker 1: that means disinformation and political violence. The thing that I
Speaker 1: want to point out is, like you go on Fox News, right,
Speaker 1: all conservative media is telling their base is that we
Speaker 1: got this. There's no stopping the red wave unless there's
Speaker 1: massive fraud. That's the only way we lose this one, y'all.
Speaker 1: That's that message is being really consistently reinforced from the
Speaker 1: pundits down to the candidates. So if anything resembling even
Speaker 1: a purple wave happens, there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: hurt feelings or you know, they'll be able to weaponize
Speaker 1: this sort of ill informed expectation of viewers to then say, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, probably of fraud, and that's why we
Speaker 1: need to begin challenging all these other elections. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna play this clip really quick so you can hear
Speaker 1: about this. Is Jesse Waters on Fox basically saying like,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a red wave, folks. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a red wave, and the horse Track won't be the
Speaker 1: only place we see a historic beat town this week,
Speaker 1: for less than twenty four hours from the first polls
Speaker 1: closing in the mid term elections, and Republicans are charging
Speaker 1: for the finish line are we looking at one of
Speaker 1: the biggest red waves in American history? Well, in two
Speaker 1: thousand and ten, Obama lost Democrats sixty three seats in
Speaker 1: the House. Clinton dropped fifty four, Trump lost forty. All
Speaker 1: of them had higher approval ratings than Biden does right now,
Speaker 1: So what happens tomorrow, anything over forty House seats is
Speaker 1: a big wave. The first polls closed around seven and
Speaker 1: Bill Hemmer tells me that if Republicans pick up at
Speaker 1: least two of the three House seats in Virginia, that
Speaker 1: means we're looking at a massive wave. And don't listen
Speaker 1: to the lies they're spewing that this could take days
Speaker 1: or days you know, to know who want this is
Speaker 1: total b s wave Like this, we should know that
Speaker 1: that that night, basically who won the Senate in the House,
Speaker 1: anything that happens Wednesday into Thursday's gravy. So using like
Speaker 1: like political precedent or historical precedents, say, like you know,
Speaker 1: mid terms usually go the other way, but also not
Speaker 1: like completely ignoring the fact how much more enthusiasm there
Speaker 1: is from Democrats, because like people are seeing an incredible
Speaker 1: erosion of their person like their rights happened before their eyes.
Speaker 1: I would motivate a lot of people to come out
Speaker 1: to vote against them, but again just doing a whole
Speaker 1: thing of like, don't buy this stuff that they have
Speaker 1: to count these other spooky votes somewhere. But yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: please please chime in yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. This
Speaker 1: whole show is please always um. Yeah. So that's that's
Speaker 1: been I think when you look at that and him
Speaker 1: really trying to tell people just ignore everything else. It's
Speaker 1: got to be a win, that's what really freaks me up.
Speaker 1: And that's that's what I was talking about earlier, when
Speaker 1: when you know, so they're sending this message out to
Speaker 1: their people, but everybody hears it. You know, this idea
Speaker 1: of oh it's done. Oh it's a Republican wave, it's
Speaker 1: a red wave. This is you know, historically has been
Speaker 1: the election where the dominant party in charge is punished. Therefore,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it should be therefore I need
Speaker 1: to go out and vote. But then it becomes therefore,
Speaker 1: you know, if this is already happening, then why do
Speaker 1: I need to go Why do I need to be
Speaker 1: a part of this? And if if it's already set
Speaker 1: up beforehand, and so this idea of a red wave.
Speaker 1: It's it's like, it's not just a dog whistle for Republicans.
Speaker 1: I feel like it also affects, if it affects everybody
Speaker 1: who's who's hearing these messages. And honestly, you know, going
Speaker 1: back to I come from Sudan, you know, a dictatorship,
Speaker 1: and these tactics remind me of what what was happening
Speaker 1: in Sudan around elections whenever elections did happen. It's these
Speaker 1: same kinds of tactics. And I'm just wondering whether folks
Speaker 1: are taking you know, are are kind of looking at
Speaker 1: what what these other dictatorship's theocracies are doing and taking
Speaker 1: a page out of their playbooks. It's just it's also
Speaker 1: eerily familiar, right, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean the I
Speaker 1: think there are many ways, many ways that the right
Speaker 1: and the Republican Party has doubled down on authoritarianism. And
Speaker 1: there's the massive history to to pull from when it
Speaker 1: comes to that, and a massive present to pull from
Speaker 1: to see like what's what's working in the present tense
Speaker 1: and countries that have social media and authoritarianism or anti
Speaker 1: democrat addict power structures in place. Yeah, but even this
Speaker 1: idea y'all were saying about how other countries sort of
Speaker 1: shut down media to comment on any sort of commentary
Speaker 1: within days before an election. Even that would be considered
Speaker 1: extremely authoritarian and like draconian if that ever happened in
Speaker 1: this country, right, I can't even see that even flying.
Speaker 1: Although I completely I'm completely a pent on the side
Speaker 1: of that should be something that happens just to even
Speaker 1: just to see the outcome of an election. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys think that's even something that
Speaker 1: a possibility here. I just don't think it would even
Speaker 1: even be considered, especially when you have, you know, someone
Speaker 1: like Elon Musk right now saying that the voices of
Speaker 1: Twitter should be you know, held as the authority and
Speaker 1: not really you know, journalistic kind of opinion is not
Speaker 1: is overrated, And so I just I feel like we're
Speaker 1: going more and more on the direction of it being
Speaker 1: all for one, one for all, everyone kind of can
Speaker 1: weigh in on this, and I just don't ever see
Speaker 1: that happening in this country. I think you're at the
Speaker 1: same time, you know, we're both journalists, Leela and I,
Speaker 1: and this this idea of this war on journalists, right,
Speaker 1: like this idea of don't believe them or like quote
Speaker 1: unquote as you were saying earlier, mainstream media, you better,
Speaker 1: you know, be discerning and be careful who you listen to.
Speaker 1: And at some point, you know, Trump was calling for
Speaker 1: hurting journalists as we remember. So it's it's all this
Speaker 1: war of war of information and who who to believe
Speaker 1: and who not to believe, and it's getting messier and
Speaker 1: messier on social media. I mean, I'm a person who
Speaker 1: honestly I have not been on Twitter as much to
Speaker 1: preserve my own sanity and mental health. But you know,
Speaker 1: but it's a place that millions and millions people rely
Speaker 1: on for information every single day, and that's scary to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that Elon Musk is going
Speaker 1: to turn around and be like this election was a mess.
Speaker 1: We're gonna I'm going to forego like any any electoral
Speaker 1: tweets like will be stopped by by Twitter. I just
Speaker 1: think that it's valuable for Americans to know that there
Speaker 1: is another way that other countries don't view that as authoritarian.
Speaker 1: They just view that as a better function of the media.
Speaker 1: And when you look at how American media covers electoral politics,
Speaker 1: it's so focused. It's like suddenly the mainstream media turns
Speaker 1: into ESPN and it's all just about covering who's winning. Oh,
Speaker 1: he just got owned in that debate because he's come
Speaker 1: from the stroke. You know, it's just all it's all
Speaker 1: covering the horse race. I mean they talk about that. What.
Speaker 1: I worked at ABC News for the two thousand four election,
Speaker 1: and they had this big, like town hall meeting ahead
Speaker 1: of the election where they were like, how do we
Speaker 1: cover things in a way that isn't just covering the
Speaker 1: horse race? And then like what you know, us our
Speaker 1: coverage becomes coverage of our coverage of the horse race
Speaker 1: because it's like, Okay, this narrative is picking up, so
Speaker 1: now we have to Now we're all talking about the
Speaker 1: narrative around the narrative, and it just becomes this complete
Speaker 1: mess that's all just designed to create intrigue, but it
Speaker 1: actually is has created a system that is very confusing,
Speaker 1: is very alienating to people wondering why they should vote,
Speaker 1: and I think just you know, anxiety inducing. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: there were ten days before the election where the mainstream
Speaker 1: media and and Fox News like had to just not
Speaker 1: cover the election, Like I wonder if that would change
Speaker 1: overall how they covered things. You know, like what before
Speaker 1: everybody should be listening to public radio and watching public
Speaker 1: media not a play at all. But we're quieter, We'll
Speaker 1: get you the information without a lot of the inflammatory
Speaker 1: kind of side stuff. We go deeper than a lot
Speaker 1: of these channels. And because we're just you know, we
Speaker 1: don't have to run to the commercial right, we don't
Speaker 1: have to kind of satisfy that that that sponsor. Look
Speaker 1: at Leela smiling, she's like, had no I put in
Speaker 1: a plug for public I guess my point is is
Speaker 1: that public radio is seen by the a lot of
Speaker 1: Americans as part of the problem. You know, that they're
Speaker 1: left lean, thing, that they're liberal, that they're biased, you
Speaker 1: know sort of things. So I just feel, you know,
Speaker 1: you have a huge sector of it's all just you know,
Speaker 1: it's all very subjective, right, you know, people are are
Speaker 1: leaning towards what they more realistically feel are are is
Speaker 1: more aligned with them, And unfortunately, the stories and the
Speaker 1: point of view and the journalism from public radio isn't
Speaker 1: respected by a lot of Americans. Mm hmm. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think fortunately for all the talk of like you know,
Speaker 1: there's like I'm looking at like CNN right there owned
Speaker 1: by like a Republican you know, and they're we're starting
Speaker 1: to see how they're trying to be like we need
Speaker 1: to like center this thing a little bit. You're like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not what you mean, but okay, we can use that,
Speaker 1: can use that terminology. Twitter is now owned by Elon
Speaker 1: who's out here being like vote republican Fox obviously, like
Speaker 1: there's more to say how much of a conservative bend
Speaker 1: media has and just sort of where been nises the
Speaker 1: term like liberal media to say, like they're trying to
Speaker 1: tell people about like to be humane or stories that
Speaker 1: are like centering the human experience rather than like these
Speaker 1: like really violent sort of like political stereotypes that get
Speaker 1: people to just stop thinking and be like yeah, uh huh, yep, okay,
Speaker 1: I don't need to hear more. I'm now I'm fired
Speaker 1: up because someone is like has has their books paid for?
Speaker 1: As a student wanted what and if they're if the
Speaker 1: people who own a company or Democrats for the most part,
Speaker 1: they're like Rick Caruso Democrats, you know, they're like the
Speaker 1: sort of Democrats who support billionaire rulers because they have
Speaker 1: themselves they're billionaires, Like I don't what is the answer
Speaker 1: non profit not media truly and honestly, I think that
Speaker 1: the thing is there should be no you shouldn't have
Speaker 1: like everyone should have a fixed budget for political ads
Speaker 1: like in other countries. It's like no one can blow
Speaker 1: anyone else out on the spend. That's when if you can't,
Speaker 1: if you can't take the money out of politics and
Speaker 1: reverse like Citizens United and ship like that, then there
Speaker 1: have to be other like levers on it where someone's
Speaker 1: dark money spending doesn't completely make give an advantage to
Speaker 1: some ghoul who's like just there to merely act out
Speaker 1: the will of some like nefarious think tank or whatever
Speaker 1: pack or something like that. So I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean like that, I think always the answer is just
Speaker 1: gonna first is just to get the money out of politics,
Speaker 1: like just to get the corporate spend out. But that
Speaker 1: is such a gigantic lift at this point in this country. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess the other things are like properly supported media
Speaker 1: that aren't relying on advertisements or doing sponsored content with
Speaker 1: like fossil fuel companies or something and then pretending it's
Speaker 1: news and things like that. But I think at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, It's just that, like money is
Speaker 1: on short supply for people who are doing good things,
Speaker 1: and the people with a lot of money would rather
Speaker 1: fund the things that maintain the status quo. And that
Speaker 1: that's that's really the the biggest challenge I feel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the effery that you were talking about, mm hmm, yeah,
Speaker 1: and again feeds into any person's I understanding of like
Speaker 1: what's the point of doing something here, what's the point
Speaker 1: of voting. I've I've only known you know, dire straits
Speaker 1: for most of my life, and I'm not able to
Speaker 1: connect how voting for this person is going to do that.
Speaker 1: And I think that's you know, part of it is
Speaker 1: that we're just not able to also offer enough people
Speaker 1: the like the coverage to see that there are other
Speaker 1: ways that people work together to make good outcomes. It's
Speaker 1: not always necessarily in like what's happening in the federal government,
Speaker 1: but to at least begin investing in like what it
Speaker 1: means to be part of your community, that the people
Speaker 1: who are making decisions in your community, and hopefully that
Speaker 1: can you know, reverberate further out. But all right, well,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break to hear from our corporate sponsors.
Speaker 1: And we'll be right back to talk about movie theater Candy,
Speaker 1: and we're back and what kinda forever drops in two days.
Speaker 1: As of with the day of the episode drops, it's Wednesday,
Speaker 1: drops on Friday. Reviews are in the look there between
Speaker 1: like solid and glowing. To producer Joel, I think saw it,
Speaker 1: and I'm not allowed to say what she said, but
Speaker 1: suffice it to say, it looks very good. Things are
Speaker 1: looking very good looking for this movie pretty good. Early
Speaker 1: estimates suggests that everyone in America is going to see
Speaker 1: it at least twice this weekend. M The dollar figures
Speaker 1: are wild. They're like, yeah, we're seeing like two fifty
Speaker 1: million in like one week, and it's crazy. Anyways, a
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna see this movie. I'm going
Speaker 1: to see this movie. I don't know if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see it this weekend, but I'm going to see it asap.
Speaker 1: And it raises the question. There's recently a Cinemark map.
Speaker 1: So Cinemark the theater chain created one of those maps
Speaker 1: where like, this is everybody's favorite movie theater Candy by state,
Speaker 1: and it is one of those maps that actually seems
Speaker 1: to be based in fact. You can tell because the
Speaker 1: results are pretty boring in some cases, Like there a
Speaker 1: big chunk of the country is just like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: like eminem peanuts, just just like you would expect because
Speaker 1: eminem peanuts are good. Somebody writing about it was like,
Speaker 1: is it do they like eminem peanuts because they come
Speaker 1: in yellow rappers and that's the easier, easiest snack to
Speaker 1: see in the dark. It's like, no, have you ever
Speaker 1: eaten in a movie theater? It's about no, look eating
Speaker 1: the whole time. You're like one of my bag of
Speaker 1: whatever by my lap, just keep shuffling that into your mouth.
Speaker 1: Who is putting that thought into it is being like
Speaker 1: which of these is going to be easiest for me
Speaker 1: to see in the dark? Right? First off, I want
Speaker 1: to ask what is every body's favorite movie candy, just
Speaker 1: so we can establish some kind of bassline here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: mine isn't even on here. It's the raisinets. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, thank you. I mean, have you
Speaker 1: guys ever taken some lightly buttered popcorn? Just slightly, you know,
Speaker 1: just a dap. You take your raisinnuts, you sprinkle them
Speaker 1: on top of that popcorn. You sit in the dark,
Speaker 1: and handful is like a bite of a burst of
Speaker 1: surprise and joy. I just I've also had major stomach
Speaker 1: pains and vomiting after it's do not sit well in
Speaker 1: my stomach. But when oh, they're so fun going down,
Speaker 1: and the tastes like I don't like their taste at all. Controversial.
Speaker 1: Mainly I have not gone to the movies yet. I mean,
Speaker 1: you should come here. You could just drive up and
Speaker 1: we should go see um Wakanda together. We could see
Speaker 1: you three times. We're going I'm going purposefully to the
Speaker 1: blackest theater in Oakland at Grand Lake, Grand Lake Theater.
Speaker 1: That's where we're going to go see it. And mine
Speaker 1: is whoppers here as chocolate. They're balls, thank you very much. Yes,
Speaker 1: although they crunch and that's not ideal for a movie situation.
Speaker 1: I realized that still it's love whoppers. Mine's also not
Speaker 1: on here. But Miles, you do yours first. But what's
Speaker 1: going on? You're really nonrepresentative. I'm telling you. It's like
Speaker 1: the elections. Thank you very we're out here. It just
Speaker 1: looks we contain Malta. This is America, you know, don't
Speaker 1: just reduce us to one logo on the state. I
Speaker 1: would eat like nerds ropes if they have them, Yeah,
Speaker 1: fantastic or like Twizzler. I think I had some recently
Speaker 1: that you could like split apart. Though, No, it's like
Speaker 1: our thing is like a sweet and oh you know what,
Speaker 1: it could be sweet and tart ropes. Sweet tart ropes
Speaker 1: are the number one as a theater in Alaska. Now
Speaker 1: that's next to eating Dungeoness crab in the theater. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I like I like the fruity kind of like sour candies.
Speaker 1: Like I'll go crazy if I'm like on four twenty
Speaker 1: when I went a couple of years ago, I got popcorn.
Speaker 1: I get a little bit bit of a cup of
Speaker 1: nacho cheese to dip my popcorn in. Wow, okay, because
Speaker 1: I'm a savage. Then I get the like the candy
Speaker 1: ropes or whatever, and then I got to have some
Speaker 1: kind of peanut butter situation. It could be recently, it
Speaker 1: could be peanut Eminem's. Can I just say Red Vines
Speaker 1: headquarters is five minutes away from me? Okay, So let's
Speaker 1: say I realized that we never we just started in
Speaker 1: talking about our favorite but we should say so at
Speaker 1: the number one answers, Eminem peanuts and Eminem peanuts are
Speaker 1: dominant from Texas and every state surrounding Texas. Essentially, it's
Speaker 1: also Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, like a bunch
Speaker 1: of a bunch of those states or not New York.
Speaker 1: Actually New York is cookie dough bites. So eminem peanuts
Speaker 1: have like a big stronghold in big chunks of the
Speaker 1: country that are very populous, and also Wisconsin. And then
Speaker 1: there is a big divide. It was mentioned before Miles
Speaker 1: said red vines. One of you said red vines or
Speaker 1: Twizzlers or Twizzlers or red vines, they are separate, they're
Speaker 1: different candies and Twizzlers are the East Coast and then
Speaker 1: red vines are. So red vines are the number one
Speaker 1: candy Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada. It's it's the most. It
Speaker 1: is holding down an entire Idaho, Colorado, it's holding down
Speaker 1: that entire chunk of the map and nowhere else, nowhere else, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but red vines. So red vines star did in Chicago,
Speaker 1: and Twizzlers I think started in New York and it's
Speaker 1: been that way since day one. That they're like, you know, regionally,
Speaker 1: it's either you know, either the Mississippi or West of
Speaker 1: the Rockies. We we don't know where exactly to divide it.
Speaker 1: Red vines are dominant on one side of the country
Speaker 1: and Twizzlers won. The story is there, Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah. I wonder if, like if you went
Speaker 1: into like a movie theater and like fucking Maryland or something,
Speaker 1: and you're like, let me get some red vines and
Speaker 1: they're like red vines, Like if they would if it
Speaker 1: would be like that kind of an outward thing, because
Speaker 1: when I didn't know about red vines, when I grew
Speaker 1: up on the East Coast, I only knew of Twizzlers.
Speaker 1: I didn't know about I knew about Twizzlers from the commercials,
Speaker 1: but I never saw Twizzlers in the store. Growing up
Speaker 1: in l A. I always saw red vines. That big
Speaker 1: tub of red vines. I've always like, I don't know
Speaker 1: that used to be a thing we would drink years
Speaker 1: out of. So Twizzlers is owned by I think Mars
Speaker 1: or Hershey, and so I think they're Twizzlers headquarters Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: Red Vines headquarters a five minute walk from me, So
Speaker 1: maybe it's just shorter trucking times. Yeah, I mean Twizzlers
Speaker 1: origins are traced to New York's Young and Smiley confectionery
Speaker 1: firm in eighteen forty five, which was bought by her
Speaker 1: She's in nineteen seventy seven. And then the American Liquorice
Speaker 1: Company of Chicago premiered its black liquorice vines in nineteen fourteen,
Speaker 1: and then the classic raspberry vines, which is what Red
Speaker 1: Vines original name was, made their debuts six years later.
Speaker 1: Our red vines raspberries. They're supposed to be raspberry, are they?
Speaker 1: I don't funk with either really because they're they're not
Speaker 1: tard enough. I need them to like nerd ropes are
Speaker 1: the are are the rope that was promised like, I
Speaker 1: need it to be like sweet and tart. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't like they're just both so dull. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that that is my preferences. The sour Patch kid, my
Speaker 1: teenage daughters, Welcome to the world candy. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: they mixed the best with popcorn too. I love to
Speaker 1: dump my sour Patch kids. They also So I was
Speaker 1: gonna say the raisin nets I said earlier, when you're
Speaker 1: talking about raisin that's that you can dump the whole
Speaker 1: box in. But actually raising nets. They all go to
Speaker 1: the bottom, so you have to do a layered thing.
Speaker 1: You have to do like an Sara patch kids, though
Speaker 1: like for whatever reason, they don't always fall all the
Speaker 1: way to the bottom. You can, you can dump can.
Speaker 1: I ask a question, why are there states that have none?
Speaker 1: Like Maine apparently has no favorite candy. They refused to
Speaker 1: reports like cinema doesn't operate there. Maybe yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's probably a cinema doesn't have any chains there. Oh
Speaker 1: they operate New Hampshire, but not Vermont. Huh okay being
Speaker 1: drawn but and like, yeah, twizzlers are also like I
Speaker 1: know people who are like, you gotta get a fresh
Speaker 1: batch of Twizzlers. You gotta get a fresh batch of Twizzlers.
Speaker 1: I just got someone I know like got a like
Speaker 1: a shipment of Twizzlers recently, and they're like, I got
Speaker 1: fresh ones. Come triumph. They don't taste better bread or something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just like I get that there
Speaker 1: are freshies you want to have from Halloween candy, right,
Speaker 1: like a fresh abbasaba that is good, like when they
Speaker 1: when they go too long, they turn to cement or whatever.
Speaker 1: But a Twizzler or like a red fine. I don't
Speaker 1: know about like a stale one where I'm like, I
Speaker 1: think I'm just not as handy. Candy freshness is real.
Speaker 1: I have come to appreciate that the freshness of a
Speaker 1: candy over definitely helps, is it. It's better like when
Speaker 1: when it's kind of new, like when you're eating Halloween candy,
Speaker 1: like in the New Year, that that ship is not
Speaker 1: is no longer any good right for the most part.
Speaker 1: I mean, the neighborhood kids took everything but left the
Speaker 1: Tutsie rolls, which really surprised me. I loved its roles.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of candy. I like it. It's good.
Speaker 1: But they kept they kept like moving, literally moving them
Speaker 1: aside and looking for the sour stuff like Jack, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like this sour stuff the kid kids these days.
Speaker 1: That's that's how you know we're a young hip podcast.
Speaker 1: We think, Yeah, they like the sour candy, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Nine Boys, the six nine Boys should have done a
Speaker 1: collab with the makers of the Tutsi role. They never did.
Speaker 1: There's probably some commercial somewhere. I mean, what happened to
Speaker 1: Quad City? You know, how far to be falling in
Speaker 1: this time? S music is still very popular in all
Speaker 1: the parties. So I don't know, you know, even like
Speaker 1: high school proms. Oh they still't know about Miami Bay're
Speaker 1: still whooping there it is? Isn't that them? Is that them? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: it's not them, DJA to DJs. Isn't that then? The
Speaker 1: whoof there? It is? No? That was That was a
Speaker 1: d C tag team Tag team a very yesterday where
Speaker 1: I was playing that song in the car. It's been
Speaker 1: on my kids playlists since they were, you know, two,
Speaker 1: and my six year old was like, yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: really like this song. It was like, real, it's a
Speaker 1: hard moment. I think it's probably because we've worn it out,
Speaker 1: but it's still. Wow. They really don't huh, So they
Speaker 1: can't they so they cannot dig it? Yeah, I said,
Speaker 1: we can't dig it? Do look at the road, Just
Speaker 1: look at the road, dead looking around, asking me, can't
Speaker 1: we dig it our own graves? Because you're about to
Speaker 1: crash this car? No, Miles, what's your favorite candy? Did
Speaker 1: you say? Oh? You said ropes? I said nine things.
Speaker 1: Because I'm high. When I go into a movie theater
Speaker 1: and I have to I have to indulge all my senses.
Speaker 1: Sweeten none of ours, none of ours were really on
Speaker 1: here like other than I guess red vines. I will
Speaker 1: say Reese's Pieces I love, but that's all because of ET.
Speaker 1: ET is the best product placement of all time. It
Speaker 1: remains the best product placement of all time. I don't
Speaker 1: think I like Reese's Pieces. I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: liked them, but I still funk with them when I'm
Speaker 1: at a movie theater because of ET. And because of ET,
Speaker 1: I started getting them when I was young at the
Speaker 1: movie theater. It or and just to have like an
Speaker 1: association where I'm like, man, if I eat a pound
Speaker 1: of Reese's Pieces, I get a wild sugar high. So
Speaker 1: I still remember getting those at Honey I shrunk the
Speaker 1: kids when I was Those were the days. How do
Speaker 1: you what's what are your thoughts on pieces? I'm neutral,
Speaker 1: I'm very blah bland. May I don't have you know,
Speaker 1: I don't hate them. I don't love them. They're kind
Speaker 1: of just ma But I find it interesting that you
Speaker 1: would like that You're palette would enjoy a food because
Speaker 1: of a movie. Yeah, Oh yeah, I think it's like
Speaker 1: the association. It's purely the association. There's like there's been
Speaker 1: a few movies where like or TV shows, I started
Speaker 1: eating stuff because of what I saw on TV. Like
Speaker 1: I remember Abba Zabba because of how high or no,
Speaker 1: I mean half baked. They're telling my Abbasaba and I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna try that. And then I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is interesting. Uh Reese's Pieces because of U E. T.
Speaker 1: There was one other one that, Oh, in Mall Rats,
Speaker 1: this dude is eating like chocolate covered pretzels in the scene,
Speaker 1: and then I became I just like went all in
Speaker 1: on chocolate cover pretzels. Yeah. So I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think what all that to say is I'm stupid and
Speaker 1: I want to be like TV screen worked, and I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't knowingly say I'm eating this because of Et.
Speaker 1: It's just that Et eating those things. And it had
Speaker 1: like they they fully eat a nice little crunch whenever
Speaker 1: he ate it, and the colors of the bag. For
Speaker 1: whatever reason, it just it worked. They got my ass,
Speaker 1: and that was supposed to be m and M's and
Speaker 1: Mars fucked up and just we're like, we're not interested
Speaker 1: in putting our candy in your little movie. And so
Speaker 1: they went with Reese's Pieces and oh, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're like, you knew it for free and much
Speaker 1: about this. We did a whole thing on it because
Speaker 1: we were we were really thinking about how like seminole
Speaker 1: that is for Reese's pieces, that et thing. And I
Speaker 1: think it's also seen as wacky. Little Fingers just drop
Speaker 1: a couple of recent pieces like that's advertizing. I don't
Speaker 1: know why, but it felt magical. It does. It works
Speaker 1: for some reason. It shouldn't. None of it should work.
Speaker 1: I can't, we will not, Little Fingers. Uh well, Leila,
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you both on the daily zeitgeist.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you, hear you all
Speaker 1: that good stuff? You can listen to The Stoop wherever
Speaker 1: you find your podcasts. Don't you just love that? I
Speaker 1: hate that constant line. Yeah. Yeah, we're doing stories consistently
Speaker 1: throughout the year about the Black diaspora The Stoop or
Speaker 1: The Stoop Die or you can find us there or
Speaker 1: on social media. Is at the Stoop podcast amazing? And
Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some other work of social
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying? Yeah? So, um, I found this
Speaker 1: lady that does these little it's it's Instagram. But I
Speaker 1: think she's on TikTok as well, and the handle is
Speaker 1: c S a Punch And she's just this lady. She's
Speaker 1: a mom of young kids, and she loves nineties R
Speaker 1: and B and she does these little skits uh with
Speaker 1: with like nineties R and B songs and it just
Speaker 1: it brings me joy. She's funny. She takes a song
Speaker 1: like that the kids are listening to now that has
Speaker 1: been sampled and then goes back and you hear the
Speaker 1: original song and then that song turns out was sampled
Speaker 1: by somebody else. So it's just fun and I you know,
Speaker 1: she she keeps me happy. And and that's her handle
Speaker 1: is C S a Punch. Nice. How about you? Well,
Speaker 1: I've been I've been really intrigued by just recently on Twitter,
Speaker 1: someone had tweeted, like where the girls from the perm boxes?
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys saw this, but it
Speaker 1: was like where are they now? The girls with their
Speaker 1: straight hair on the front of the perm boxes? Like
Speaker 1: little girls eight years a little looking cute and the
Speaker 1: little ponytails and the beads. And they came forward and
Speaker 1: they showed pictures of like where they're at now? And
Speaker 1: these girls, first of all, they like all of them
Speaker 1: had natural hair, they have perms um, they have their
Speaker 1: hair straightens, and they were just gorgeous. They were beautiful,
Speaker 1: and they were just these stunning women that were kind
Speaker 1: of talking about like what it was like to be
Speaker 1: on that perm box at such a young age, and like,
Speaker 1: I just loved that whole interviewing them. There's a site
Speaker 1: called Because of Them, and they did a whole series
Speaker 1: like on where that where they are now? And I
Speaker 1: just I love that kind of flashback kind of thing. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: nice Miles, Where can people find you? And what is
Speaker 1: the tweet you've been enjoying? Jack? I mean, when was
Speaker 1: the last time you bought a box of just for
Speaker 1: me texture softener? Just for me? Oh yeah, you know
Speaker 1: remember that girl's in a while. I'm almost out, remember
Speaker 1: per boxes? Come on, Jack, Let's see some tweets that
Speaker 1: I like. One is just from Jamie Loftus at Jamie
Speaker 1: Loftus Helped tweeted how many poorly written comic book villains
Speaker 1: will we elect today? Folks? Uh? It feels kind of
Speaker 1: what's going on there? And then at Jay Frankensenter tweeted,
Speaker 1: every Elon post is like watching Joe Pesci Enter the
Speaker 1: home alone house. Really that summed it up. Thank you
Speaker 1: for refusing those two things together. Uh. You can find
Speaker 1: me at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. You
Speaker 1: can check Jack and I out on our basketball podcast,
Speaker 1: Miles and Jack Got Mad boost These. We got a
Speaker 1: new episode coming out tomorrow Thursday. You know you don't
Speaker 1: want to miss that. Also my other podcast talking about
Speaker 1: four twenty Day Fiance. Wherever you get your podcast, I
Speaker 1: saw your eyes light up. We're busy a jail. It's okay, alright, well,
Speaker 1: Lena Leela, we might sometimes you know. It's also a
Speaker 1: very I just love what the what like the ven
Speaker 1: diagram is of like really intellectual people who also funk
Speaker 1: with ninety day. It's unbelievable in my mind, Like the
Speaker 1: kind of people who are like I love ninety damn,
Speaker 1: Like you just want to want a peabody? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: don't hold that against people. A social experiment. I love it.
Speaker 1: There it is, um, let's see and that's it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: find me there. There you go. Some tweets I've been enjoying.
Speaker 1: Christi Aamagucci main tweeted something yesterday that I thought it
Speaker 1: was just a fun ship post. He tweeted been giving
Speaker 1: rides to senior citizens to go vote in making small
Speaker 1: talk on the way, and if I find out they're
Speaker 1: voting Republican, I just pushed them out of the car,
Speaker 1: not even slowing down. Got to maximize my time and
Speaker 1: I could just sail out of Republicans finding that and
Speaker 1: be like, do you see what's happening? Yeah? And so
Speaker 1: many people on Twitter doing that stuff to see if
Speaker 1: they get picked up by conservative outlets. Yeah. Uh. And
Speaker 1: then Emma Burke with wrote instead of a stayer, you
Speaker 1: should get a hot dog when you vote, this is
Speaker 1: supposed to be America. You should have options. Yeah, well yeah,
Speaker 1: I would have options of what you put on your
Speaker 1: hot dog. I would take like a I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm just let me let me think about this. Hey,
Speaker 1: we got peanut, Eminem's, Reese's pieces or hot dogs? What
Speaker 1: do you want? You can find me on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We
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Speaker 1: dot com, where we post our episodes and our foot notes,
Speaker 1: where we link off to the information that we talked
Speaker 1: about in today's episode. Well, it's a song that we
Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, what song do we
Speaker 1: think people might enjoy? Uh? This is a group maybe
Speaker 1: have called out one or two of their songs in
Speaker 1: the past. They're called Elkin and Nelson and then they're
Speaker 1: they're these two brothers from Columbia that moved to Spain
Speaker 1: like in the seventies and like they got into like
Speaker 1: Skull in Spain in the seventies. But they're from Columbia,
Speaker 1: so like their sense of rhythm is completely different than
Speaker 1: my continental Europe. So the albums they made are like
Speaker 1: really funky and they sound like it's such a unique
Speaker 1: sound for that era. And I always loved their work
Speaker 1: and I was just listening to one of their other albums.
Speaker 1: This track is called a Bombo Nos and it's by
Speaker 1: Elkin and Nelson. And if you like a little just
Speaker 1: if you like solid rhythm and like funky, I don't
Speaker 1: know what I'll call it, like funky Latin disco kind
Speaker 1: of thing. Check this track outs called Bombo nos. Al Right, well,
Speaker 1: we will link up to that in the foot notes.
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Speaker 1: a first episode post election results, we will talk to that.
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