Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty two,
Speaker 1: Episode four of Day Guys Stay production of My Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. It's Thursday, November two, first day
Speaker 1: that we're getting with post election results. You know, we're
Speaker 1: diving into America's share consciousness and trying to do you know,
Speaker 1: just stay dry despite this big, big gass red wave.
Speaker 1: To keep in splashing all over and get your umbrellas out,
Speaker 1: because that's when I brainstorm. Yeah, it's also National Vanilla
Speaker 1: Cupcake Day, National Forget Me Not. It was like, isn't
Speaker 1: that the song that the Men in Black the theme song?
Speaker 1: Was like, anyway, it's not the flower or something. No,
Speaker 1: oh no, this is about some like oh, this is
Speaker 1: about like some people are dying and never arrow can
Speaker 1: never mind. Okay, okay, honoring white people heard war also
Speaker 1: now specific Friday. So if you if you got that
Speaker 1: old Honda Civic, have some pride, man, that's what's the
Speaker 1: dope cart amazing. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien ak.
Speaker 1: It's a nice day for fetther man. Well, it's a
Speaker 1: nice day for a red wedding. It's a bad day
Speaker 1: for Republic Cam. That's courtesy Christie. I'm a Gucci mane
Speaker 1: look Billy idol to get things kicked off right. I'm
Speaker 1: thrilled to be joined as always by my co host,
Speaker 1: Mr Miles Grad. All around the world country's life when
Speaker 1: they see just how batch it fuck this place is.
Speaker 1: Everywhere I goes like gang stopping. They see Miles Grades
Speaker 1: years old, Jackobe, blessed soul. I just wants our fries stop.
Speaker 1: Stop stops f low temp oil, You'll fry your baby,
Speaker 1: low temp oil, You'll fry your baby. Shout out to
Speaker 1: lock around. Even that fly by Sugar Ray. Think that
Speaker 1: video shot in the valley like some girl I went
Speaker 1: to like she swore her god who was her godmother's house?
Speaker 1: I think I've just talked about before, but she really
Speaker 1: we're all the yo Megan's godmother. That's that pool that
Speaker 1: they shot that video that's in her crib. Miles. It's
Speaker 1: a wonder you ever talked about anything else with that
Speaker 1: sort of access to the fly video. I know, and
Speaker 1: that's that's why people said, when are you running for
Speaker 1: office when you have to anecdotes connecting lived experience, Well, Miles,
Speaker 1: we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Speaker 1: by a brilliant, talented writer and podcaster who's written for
Speaker 1: publications like The New York Times, The New Yorker, New
Speaker 1: York Review of Books, g Q heard of that where
Speaker 1: she wrote that machine Gun Kelly Megan Puck's feature that
Speaker 1: Broke the Internet. She was the co host of the
Speaker 1: legendary podcasts Girls in Hoodies and Nightcall, and the creator
Speaker 1: of the legendary podcast High Any World The Flight Story,
Speaker 1: which you should go listen to. Now, please welcome back
Speaker 1: to this show. Molly Lamber. Wow, the songs are so good.
Speaker 1: I have to do a song too. M Uh this
Speaker 1: this isn't Adele song. I'm I'm Adell. Now I set
Speaker 1: fire to the grove and we're going to kill Rick
Speaker 1: Carusso's that but and that was Adele speaking. So if
Speaker 1: anybody thinks that that was a real threat, go for it,
Speaker 1: go after it. Go tell Adele the one that she
Speaker 1: was going to set fire to the grove not. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the thing with these Tottenham fans, you can't you
Speaker 1: don't know where they're coming from, you know, That's why
Speaker 1: you know they won't turn it down. If the foot
Speaker 1: he goes left, I mean, hell if the foot he
Speaker 1: goes right. Yeah, you know, I mean very cane, mate, massive,
Speaker 1: every cane, massive of mate. Alright, well, how's everybody feeling.
Speaker 1: I mean we're I guess we'll get into it a
Speaker 1: little bit where nothing was gonna I mean, yeah, sure fine.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm look, I know everybody like everyone was
Speaker 1: saying big red wave, but like people who were like
Speaker 1: looking at you were like, I don't know. People seem
Speaker 1: pretty like fucking freaked out slash piste off about like
Speaker 1: you know, existential threats rights that might motivate them. But
Speaker 1: I think every time the polls say something's going to happen,
Speaker 1: you should just assume the opposite. Yeah. Yeah, it seems
Speaker 1: like that's the now. That's where I've been at for
Speaker 1: a few years, just like, oh, they say this is
Speaker 1: gonna happen, I'm gonna say, whatever the opposite thing is
Speaker 1: this going to happen? It seems like, yeah, Republicans are
Speaker 1: like they are having their twenty six moment, which but
Speaker 1: the pole, but but but the pole? And I'm like
Speaker 1: y'all were cooking the fucking numbers to create a fucking narrative.
Speaker 1: Like somebody else that pointed out that it's like they
Speaker 1: are taking these poles by calling people on the phone. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we t aked about that yesterday that like Nate Cone,
Speaker 1: the number one New York Times pole dude, was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: the one thing to be noted is that it took
Speaker 1: me two hours to get a single pole response. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I've said this before, maybe even on this show,
Speaker 1: but like if you were if you did the polls
Speaker 1: in ten, that shouldn't be your job anymore. Yeah. You know,
Speaker 1: if you're the guy who said trust the math, trust
Speaker 1: these stats, listen to me in you're fired, Donald Donald
Speaker 1: Trump says you're fucking fired. That's why. That's why I
Speaker 1: was wild. That guy Robert Kahley from Trafalgar, who was
Speaker 1: like the one dude in twenty sixteen, was like, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, bro, Trump's got this. There were a bunch
Speaker 1: of people who were like, bro, listen to the underground
Speaker 1: saying we're fucked. But like, yeah, like that one guy
Speaker 1: at Trafalgar, like he's been on like on a meteoric rise,
Speaker 1: and then this time they're like, well, he just sounds
Speaker 1: like he's just telling the Republicans what they want to
Speaker 1: hear at this point and they're like, this guy burned us.
Speaker 1: Oh he was like big red wave. Yeah yeah, get
Speaker 1: your swimsuits on, in your sex wax ready, because we're
Speaker 1: about to be riding a big way. Oh look at
Speaker 1: you endless summer over here. Okay, sorry for Jack. All Right, Molly,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to know you a little bit better
Speaker 1: in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about.
Speaker 1: We're gonna check in with you know, something that I
Speaker 1: always like to do in moments like these, which is fine,
Speaker 1: Just like, go watch Fox News see how they're how
Speaker 1: they're dealing with the new reality. It's always a surreal
Speaker 1: experience to watch them as they wait to see what
Speaker 1: they're talking points are going to be in any given moment.
Speaker 1: But this was kind of a real time moment. They
Speaker 1: were trying to trying to make sense of it all.
Speaker 1: So well, we'll get some Fox News sound clips, we'll
Speaker 1: try to make sense of of the results and take
Speaker 1: some messages away from how people voted. Then we'll get
Speaker 1: down to the important stuff. Like a new VR headset
Speaker 1: that can kill you is not right? The fake story?
Speaker 1: I think people just want that. People are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: just I want a video game that is incredibly like
Speaker 1: absorbs me into its reality. And then I also don't
Speaker 1: want to be here anymore. I just like, don't want
Speaker 1: to be around anymore. And this addresses both of those.
Speaker 1: So the mainstream media ran with it, but I think
Speaker 1: they might have gotten a little bit ahead of themselves.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's actually true. Well, I'm
Speaker 1: sure all the people who are like, what this guy
Speaker 1: who ate forty like rotisserie chickens in a row, They're like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: this is news. We got to figure this out. We
Speaker 1: might even get to the Santa Claus expanded Universe all
Speaker 1: of that plenty more. But first, Molly, we like to
Speaker 1: ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Wow,
Speaker 1: yesterday I searched something very important. We've been having a
Speaker 1: big not a red wave, but just a regular rainstorm
Speaker 1: wave here in Los Angeles, and it was a full moon.
Speaker 1: It was the blood Beaver moon yesterday, as you may know.
Speaker 1: So I searched, does the full moon make rainstorm? Like,
Speaker 1: make a storm worse or crazier? Hm? Interesting? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: was like yeah. I was like, is that a crazy question?
Speaker 1: And then I was like, no, it's not a crazy question,
Speaker 1: because the full moon affects tides. Tides are like two
Speaker 1: ft higher when it's a full moon, So if there's
Speaker 1: a rainstorm, it means it's more rain even for the tide.
Speaker 1: But the thing I learned that's even crazier is that
Speaker 1: the real reason the full moon's making ship weirder is
Speaker 1: because there's this thing with the wobble. Do you know
Speaker 1: about this? The moon is wabbling the moon. The moon
Speaker 1: is wobbling a little bit, and it's just it's not
Speaker 1: climate change or anything. It's just a random thing the
Speaker 1: moon is doing where it has this cycle for like
Speaker 1: eighteen years or something where it's just like wobbles a
Speaker 1: little bit. And when that happened, it just has a
Speaker 1: little fun is doing a little just listening to bad Bunny.
Speaker 1: But when when the moon, when the moon wobbles, it
Speaker 1: does affect the tides and it makes like superstorms makes
Speaker 1: crazy ship happen because it makes it so that it's
Speaker 1: like the tides are either just very low or like
Speaker 1: super high. It's like it just makes it more extreme.
Speaker 1: Damn and check it out. It's crazy. And it's like
Speaker 1: Russo wasn't using blood magic to someone that storm. I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, but like he was no match for the
Speaker 1: fucking moon magic. Yeah, I guess we'll see. We still
Speaker 1: don't know that on that one, right, developers, developers will
Speaker 1: be conquered by by space. We're gonna try to build
Speaker 1: a mall in space and they're all gonna get space
Speaker 1: madness and die. Oh yeah right, just like as you like,
Speaker 1: uh is doing the ribbon cutting for the first cheesecake
Speaker 1: factory like off of Earth, and at that moment, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all going to go wrong. I can see. It
Speaker 1: gives me pleasure to think about. It's like their brains
Speaker 1: will just you know, turn into sponges. Yeah. I've been
Speaker 1: enjoying seeing like the just the tech people trying to
Speaker 1: take it to the next level, with Elon Musk trying
Speaker 1: to like do Twitter and just proving how scary it
Speaker 1: would be to be on like a Mars colony where
Speaker 1: Elon Musk was it was in charge, just kill half
Speaker 1: of any any group of people that he's in charge of.
Speaker 1: I was saying, well, I I like destroyed Twitter from
Speaker 1: myself by tweeting. I did a tweet about how I
Speaker 1: like I I've made fun of Elon Musk and Drake
Speaker 1: at the same time them both you know, loser dorks
Speaker 1: and just like said like, no amount of money can
Speaker 1: make you like a good poster can make you funny
Speaker 1: and cool if you're not. Yeah, and absolutely just like
Speaker 1: haven't been able. I quit Twitter after that because on
Speaker 1: Top I went out on Top and then Zuckerberg and
Speaker 1: Meta like the I don't pay a lot of attention
Speaker 1: to financial results, but like the amount of money that
Speaker 1: he's losing on the medical Please please let all the
Speaker 1: Silicon Valley guys just like get you know, run off
Speaker 1: the planet, not just out of town, but like literally
Speaker 1: run them, run them off. The Earth's on a spike,
Speaker 1: run them off the flat Earth. Right, Earth is flat,
Speaker 1: and that's why you can run billionaires off it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't want us to know this, Yeah, right exactly,
Speaker 1: that's what they're hiding. I do feel like they're especially
Speaker 1: susceptible to a like moon or Mars colony, so we
Speaker 1: might just be able to get them all on the
Speaker 1: same Mars colony and fighting to the death, mismanaging the
Speaker 1: resources there, to the death of all of them. Basically,
Speaker 1: what is something you think is overrated? Maybe what about
Speaker 1: just thought I'm having the fabric cashmere. M Okay, go on,
Speaker 1: I'm just Anna told me you guys are talking about Kashmir.
Speaker 1: I was trying to freak you out by being I
Speaker 1: mean your mind. Ye a packet debate that happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the it was the cashmir al packet debate.
Speaker 1: Because she asked me if I had thoughts on it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I do, in fact, and she
Speaker 1: would save them for tomorrow's pot. Yeah. She's like, she's
Speaker 1: so fucked Should I get a like a nice sweater
Speaker 1: that feels good on my skin? So that's truly existence
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, fuck you, I mean to
Speaker 1: do what you gotta do. I do think Kashmir is overrated.
Speaker 1: I think people I think it's just the best because
Speaker 1: it costs the most, Like it's fucking lovely, but it
Speaker 1: costs so much. You know, it seems sounds like it
Speaker 1: doesn't bounce back very well either, right, I mean, it's delicate.
Speaker 1: I think it's like also, like real fabrics aren't gonna
Speaker 1: wash and wear like a polyester bullshit, you know, but
Speaker 1: I don't really know about Alpaca's Alpaca soft. Yeah it
Speaker 1: can be. I mean I was just more really like
Speaker 1: I just told her, I like, out of my mind.
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know. I saw there's some
Speaker 1: Kashmere vers out packeted, but I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: interest you. She's like what I said, I said, I
Speaker 1: mean I think anytime I wear like real fibers, I
Speaker 1: love to wear like a wool sweater, and my body
Speaker 1: just rejects it. My body is just like she's an
Speaker 1: organ you've implanted on me and like no, yeah, but
Speaker 1: her majesty is like that too, like whatever she like
Speaker 1: she knows. I mean it's like, oh no, this has
Speaker 1: some something whatever in it, because like immediately are skins,
Speaker 1: Like I'm sorry, this doesn't Also like I'm like sucking
Speaker 1: Irish and German. I assume my body was meant to
Speaker 1: wear like the scratchiest wool sweaters on earth, full body
Speaker 1: wool underpants. But also like because I'm Irish and German,
Speaker 1: my skin is like completely just sensitive to anything I
Speaker 1: just put. You know, anytime I put on a wool sweater,
Speaker 1: I just break out in hives. Yeah, okay, that's my answer.
Speaker 1: Just which side are we choosing? I I'm addicted to
Speaker 1: choosing sides after the election season, so I'll pack. I'll
Speaker 1: pack a what something you think is underrated? I don't
Speaker 1: know how a nice apple today, I was like, when's
Speaker 1: the last time you ate an apple? Right? Yeah, apples
Speaker 1: are great right into it. I'm an apple jack. I
Speaker 1: love I love me some apple. That Cerea was named
Speaker 1: after me. That's really good cereal. Yeah, it's very sweet,
Speaker 1: like just so much sugar, and like how their tagline
Speaker 1: for that cereal was, it doesn't taste like apples. It
Speaker 1: doesn't taste like the thing it's named for that you
Speaker 1: just human tastes like, it tastes like a third thing.
Speaker 1: I think apples have the highest ratio of like the
Speaker 1: actual thing is much better than anything that's flavored after it.
Speaker 1: Like any of the synthetic flavors for apple just aren't
Speaker 1: as good as just a nice crispy Yeah, it really
Speaker 1: just apple. Sometimes you're just at the farmer's market and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh funk, what's in season? Apples? Your apples?
Speaker 1: I know you ever like to eat a cold apple?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have been doing demonic energy putting
Speaker 1: a fresh apple in the I'm a demon, you know. Look,
Speaker 1: I eat soft fries, and I put these soft fries
Speaker 1: I didn't love them. What does that mean? Just like
Speaker 1: when you get like, you know, like when you get
Speaker 1: like a fry and then you get that one like
Speaker 1: loose one that's just like, oh, the one that's like
Speaker 1: too oily, that's what you like. Yeah, that's weird. My
Speaker 1: doctor says, I have some problems, but whatever, like you,
Speaker 1: it's not just the fries, is that they're crispy, and
Speaker 1: Miles likes a whole batch. That is, he likes in
Speaker 1: and out. That's like, man, I go, I told you,
Speaker 1: I go to step further. I asked them to funk
Speaker 1: them up harder rare. You asked the medium rare? In
Speaker 1: and out blue fries. Yeah, in and out the fries
Speaker 1: are kind of garbage anyway, for sure. That's that is
Speaker 1: the rational take. But allowed to say this because we're
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles. The only way I lean into them
Speaker 1: is to go like softer, Like I like a softer yeah, floppy.
Speaker 1: That's why I said, like, I went to Seattle and
Speaker 1: I went to keep bringing this up. Dicks in Seattle
Speaker 1: had the best like meat like in between, where like
Speaker 1: the edges were crispy but also a little bit soft.
Speaker 1: I don't like eating like soft crunchy. You like a
Speaker 1: steak fried like a little too massive, a little too massive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you might as well give me a big potato
Speaker 1: at that. You know. I had actually some really good
Speaker 1: potato pancakes with the Red Lion the other day. You
Speaker 1: ever get the potato pancakes there. Oh, they're fucking so
Speaker 1: you might like them as a connoisseur of soft fries
Speaker 1: because they're just like they're like a papoosa almost. They're
Speaker 1: like they're they're not like a potato pancake, like a
Speaker 1: like a Jewish potato pancake that's like a flash ground,
Speaker 1: you know, like grated. These are truly like a blob
Speaker 1: of mashed potatoes that's been like deep fried and then
Speaker 1: so good. You got try to see you can ask
Speaker 1: you one more question because now this is my show.
Speaker 1: Do you like shoe string fries? Yeah? The best shoes
Speaker 1: string onions, onion strings. Yeah, I think those are fucking
Speaker 1: super underrated. Yeah, I mean not necessarily. You get the
Speaker 1: softy boys in there, the softy brothers. Yeah, softy Brothers's
Speaker 1: a couple of softy brothers onion strings, uncut fries. I
Speaker 1: was picture in the ones that like come in a
Speaker 1: can that are Now we're at an establishment. We're talking
Speaker 1: about like a bloom and onion you mean, like those
Speaker 1: frenches onion strings like they use, Like, yeah, yeah, I'm cultured,
Speaker 1: so I work with frenches. You Does anybody prefer a
Speaker 1: soft apple over a crisp apple like that? That's a
Speaker 1: question because that is sicko like, But but apples persist,
Speaker 1: Like there are plenty of apple strains that go pretty
Speaker 1: mushy and stay on store shelves. And I'm just wondering
Speaker 1: even an opinion that people have or is it just
Speaker 1: a categorical failure of the apple. Part of the fun
Speaker 1: of eating real food, eating real fruit is that you're
Speaker 1: on Yeah yeah, you're playing apple roulette every time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you get the bad apple in the chamber most
Speaker 1: delicious apple. I do want to hear from any listeners
Speaker 1: if you if you are a mushy apple person, I
Speaker 1: don't just don't just take the opinion, but like, really,
Speaker 1: if there is a mushy apple that you funk with,
Speaker 1: like you're a I feel like red Delicious tent to
Speaker 1: be on the mushier side. If you're like, red Delicious
Speaker 1: is actually the best apple. But let me know because
Speaker 1: I'm I am confused about the persistence of the red
Speaker 1: Delicious and some of the other kind of mushier types
Speaker 1: of Apple. All right, well, now that we've got the
Speaker 1: important stuff out of the way, let's take a quick
Speaker 1: break and we'll come back and talk about election results
Speaker 1: and how different parts of the country are taking them.
Speaker 1: And we're back, and yeah, I mean, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a guilty pleasure, but I think it's something that a
Speaker 1: lot of us do when when you know, during the
Speaker 1: Trump administration, when he would suck up big time, or
Speaker 1: you know, when a good thing would happen for Democrats,
Speaker 1: like just pop over to Fox News watch the cognitive
Speaker 1: dissonance happening in real time. So we we had a
Speaker 1: clip on I think yesterday's episode where Jesse Waters was like,
Speaker 1: this is guaranteed. We can everybody can just relax because
Speaker 1: Biden's approval rating is here. And historically, every single time,
Speaker 1: you know, two years after the presidential election, the winner
Speaker 1: of that elections party gets owned. So get ready. It's
Speaker 1: it's not a question of if it's a question of
Speaker 1: how massive and destructive the tsunami wound. It doesn't even
Speaker 1: matter if we're going all out on forced birth, like
Speaker 1: taking away medicaid, fucking up our quote unquote democracy because
Speaker 1: Biden it's and it's a mid term and Bidens approvals
Speaker 1: are low and inflation, so I think we're good. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: the confidence was wild. Like I'll play this one from
Speaker 1: old Steve Doocey on Fox and Friends. This was the
Speaker 1: This was about last Thursday when he first This is
Speaker 1: a juxtaposition of him talking about the election going from
Speaker 1: last Thursday and then it immediately smashes into Wednesday morning.
Speaker 1: What is actually happening? The Democrats probably should say, you
Speaker 1: know what, we put too much emphasis on abortion and
Speaker 1: the threat to democracy and not enough emphasis on kitchen
Speaker 1: table stuff. Abortion and democracy were the two of the
Speaker 1: biggest issues with voters him this morning. The first one
Speaker 1: he is has just the most shittyed and grin like
Speaker 1: trying to stop him from breaking into an ear to
Speaker 1: ear smile. He's like, these guys are fucked. Here's another
Speaker 1: one despite that, This this one is the one in
Speaker 1: which this guy is like, oh, yeah, we got smashed.
Speaker 1: But the Dobbs decision, though, folks, come on now, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy with the dobs decision. If we don't have
Speaker 1: a great red wave Mittram and it was the abortion issue,
Speaker 1: the Dobbs decision. We will take that every day of
Speaker 1: the week. So still a win for pro lifers. H
Speaker 1: uh huh huh. Okay, that's another weird. Uh, don't worry,
Speaker 1: it's all good. Whereas this one, Oh, here's another one
Speaker 1: speaking of like abortion. This was just my goodness, like, uh,
Speaker 1: just on Fox this morning, them trying to figure out
Speaker 1: what's going on. This is the distillation from Fox News
Speaker 1: about like why the Republicans lost. Then listen closely exactly
Speaker 1: why you have the best example of Michigan unbelievable. Say
Speaker 1: house flips, it sent up flips. Six months ago you
Speaker 1: would have written what went Moro off pre dabs. She
Speaker 1: wins handily. Um, in five states had abortion referendums, including
Speaker 1: my home state of Montana. All of them passed. And
Speaker 1: this abortion is becoming the issue that's driving turnout last night,
Speaker 1: excep Poles, you guys talked about it earlier. Democrats win
Speaker 1: independence in a non presidentially you're just no pulse all
Speaker 1: that coming. And it was because these women just went crazy. Okay,
Speaker 1: like I'm sorry, what women went he said, The girls
Speaker 1: went wild? The girls have come yeah. I mean like
Speaker 1: shout out to you know, Jim Messina Farmer Obama chief
Speaker 1: of staff there, but like that's who that was. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just given his punditues, like you know, and they just
Speaker 1: went crazy out there. That's how That's how they responded. Sure,
Speaker 1: that's That's another one. And then this one was just
Speaker 1: truly just funny because they're trying to figure out, like
Speaker 1: what happened with the Doctor Oz Federman race where John
Speaker 1: Federman one draws lost and I just like this really
Speaker 1: great sound bite on Fox and Fronts too of just
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what happened there with voters when
Speaker 1: it comes to the state of Pennsylvania. Why did doctor
Speaker 1: Oz lose? Well, it looks like according to the exit polling,
Speaker 1: it's because Federman one. Yeah, oh okay, okay, oh the analysis.
Speaker 1: I'll just let me just hear the rest of that club.
Speaker 1: Every time I heard it, I just stopped and paused
Speaker 1: it started laughing every time I fucking heard that. This
Speaker 1: is the rest of that. It's because Federman one. Fetterman
Speaker 1: got fifty seven percent of the independence, Federman got sixty
Speaker 1: seven percent of Hispanics. He got filled. So now he's
Speaker 1: just talking about how there's literally plus one majority, like
Speaker 1: literally describing what an election victory is. It sounds like
Speaker 1: there votes. I feel like television news punditry has never
Speaker 1: been less relevant than it is now, right, Like nobody
Speaker 1: needs that ship anymore with the Internet. Nobody except to
Speaker 1: certain people at a certain age who do still watch
Speaker 1: cable news and one who need to be told like, hey, dude,
Speaker 1: what you're feeling is like accurate. I saw post yesterday
Speaker 1: to about like I think it was the fifties about
Speaker 1: the first ever televised election results, which I thought was
Speaker 1: really interesting, just about like how we created this format
Speaker 1: of how we see things. But the night before too,
Speaker 1: when the powerball thing went left, were you guys watching that?
Speaker 1: Did you buy lottery tickets? No? But I know no.
Speaker 1: I was that. It was just incredible because it was
Speaker 1: like I was watching a local news broadcast from like Florida,
Speaker 1: So I was just like, where can I see them
Speaker 1: draw the powerball? And then they were just waiting for
Speaker 1: the results, and then they were just like, uh, something's happened.
Speaker 1: That's like it's it's fucked up. And then these two
Speaker 1: just like local news anchors. I just watched them vamp
Speaker 1: for like so long, you know, like it. And at
Speaker 1: first they're like, okay, well, like we're just gonna talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about the powerball while we wait for
Speaker 1: them to get the powerball numbers. And then you just
Speaker 1: like see it dawn on them, like the powerball numbers
Speaker 1: just like aren't coming tonight, you know, right right, And
Speaker 1: I was just like, wow, these people are great broadcasters, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I mean that's the way. Is that why it's
Speaker 1: podcasters because it's like a broadcaster, yeah, on broadcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was because of the iPod, right that
Speaker 1: we got the podcast even if yeah, I hate that.
Speaker 1: I hate that because they don't even have iPods anymore. Yeah,
Speaker 1: fuck it. This is called pirate radio, that's right, you know,
Speaker 1: brought to you by your smartphone. But I mean I
Speaker 1: think this is the thing with like all just all
Speaker 1: coverage in general. It was just so fucking all over
Speaker 1: the place going into this, right, Like we were spending
Speaker 1: the day before being like I don't know what the
Speaker 1: fuss is going to happen, Like, well that's the polsters
Speaker 1: will spend the day saying people do polls whose entire
Speaker 1: job is this which they have a very hard job
Speaker 1: because nobody talks to them anymore. But that is still
Speaker 1: headline news, is them being like we don't know, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's just like, you know, at first, people were
Speaker 1: truly like we're looking at spiking registration numbers, you know
Speaker 1: for Democrats, huge turnouts in like these special elections around
Speaker 1: abortion access, and thought like, oh wow, maybe discarding human
Speaker 1: rights isn't a good electoral play and like that made
Speaker 1: Democrats real lazy on the messaging. And then they're just like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go to the Hey, at least we're
Speaker 1: not them playbook, and that's what they're running for the
Speaker 1: last couple of months. Then the polls are starting to
Speaker 1: shift quote unquote, like places like Pennsylvania or Nevada, North Carolina,
Speaker 1: fucking everywhere, and anything that seemed competitive or leaned dem
Speaker 1: was starting to look like a six point blowout for
Speaker 1: the GOP. Then like places like CNN and MSNBC hopped
Speaker 1: onto like is Fetterman actually I'd train and piled on
Speaker 1: to like the there's the red wave nonsense and so
Speaker 1: just like it's just so weird again, how like that
Speaker 1: whole class or that whole industry is like so like
Speaker 1: there they are so like of the same mind, just
Speaker 1: different versions of it because they're everyone was sort of
Speaker 1: bracing themselves. They're always looking for a narrative, and then
Speaker 1: once they like manufacture the narrative, they all are like,
Speaker 1: this is what's happening. The red happening, and you see
Speaker 1: and and I think it's just like as a viewer,
Speaker 1: you've you've had the football pulled away from you so
Speaker 1: many times with this thing. Now, why would you ever
Speaker 1: trust that they know what they're talking about? You know,
Speaker 1: like nobody has that gravity of like, oh, I trust
Speaker 1: this Walter Cronkite figure to tell me what's happening in America.
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's like, you know, if you
Speaker 1: watched the Hillary Trump coverage and everybody was like, well,
Speaker 1: she's got it in the bag, no problem, you know,
Speaker 1: and and then you watch what happened. But also like
Speaker 1: in the w election, like I just remember watching the
Speaker 1: news media kind of manufacturer consent for w and be like, Wow,
Speaker 1: he's so folksy, everybody loves him. While you're watching the
Speaker 1: debates and being like he's a fucking idiot, right, Like
Speaker 1: are we watching the same thing? Like he's a dumbass
Speaker 1: and yeah, al Gore's boring, but he's tall. He wants
Speaker 1: to fucking fix the environment or whatever, you know, and
Speaker 1: being like, wow, this cowboy, sharp shooting billy over here,
Speaker 1: you know, can't fight with that. I want to have
Speaker 1: a beer with that. Coke addict though, former coke addict,
Speaker 1: former beer yeah, former, But yeah, I think it's just
Speaker 1: like you have to watch it like like entertainment rather
Speaker 1: than think. And so many it's and that's what I
Speaker 1: think is so confusing for people who would just look
Speaker 1: at the news like read like the New York Times
Speaker 1: headline was so thing really fucking weird. I forget what
Speaker 1: it was. New York Times is right weight and paper. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like, but for people who still that, they're
Speaker 1: not like able to really analyze their media diet and
Speaker 1: understand like what forces are at play and the coverage
Speaker 1: that they're like reading where like you know, like talking
Speaker 1: about the New York Times and how much they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, we talk about all the work out care
Speaker 1: Ka Sanders does talking about Oh yeah, they're only they're
Speaker 1: only fucking source for these crime wave stories are the
Speaker 1: fucking police, Like that's just journalism straight up. Well that's
Speaker 1: all newspapers just print police reports as though they're like
Speaker 1: telling them local news for sure. And I think it's
Speaker 1: a lot of what Heidi World yield. Heidi World. Check
Speaker 1: it out. It goes into a months old, months old world.
Speaker 1: It's managed to still be relevant months as I was
Speaker 1: thinking about it the other day because um, because there's
Speaker 1: this big story came out about Less moonvest from CBS
Speaker 1: working with the l A cover up sexual assault, and
Speaker 1: it's just like, man, the l a p D are
Speaker 1: always if you're like, who's the who's the villain here,
Speaker 1: who's the creep? Oh, it's the l a p D.
Speaker 1: And that cop who tipped off Moonvez Chris Pratt's dad. Okay,
Speaker 1: full circle, No, I'm joking. I was totally just ready
Speaker 1: to everyone like, wait, what Chris Pratt is going to
Speaker 1: play him in a movie about how he's a heroic
Speaker 1: officer protecting powerful from conferences. Yeah, but you know, like
Speaker 1: right now we're not we don't know where like the
Speaker 1: majorities are lying at this point in terms of the
Speaker 1: House or Senate. But like I'm like the Democrats feel
Speaker 1: like they did a good job, Like, hey, all those
Speaker 1: weirdos we propped up, they fucking like lost. Okay, so
Speaker 1: like we're able to skate through without really committing to anything.
Speaker 1: But it's just a little wild when you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: they won by merely getting enough people in touch with
Speaker 1: the existential threats that they aren't willing to address. I
Speaker 1: think that's like young people turned out. That's the whole thing, right,
Speaker 1: was that gen Z was like, Bro, you got to
Speaker 1: have abortions right there, like oh ship, and that's that
Speaker 1: was all it to like get them in touch with
Speaker 1: the exit again, get them in touch with the existential
Speaker 1: threats we are unwilling to address. Because what what are you'll, like,
Speaker 1: what happened to codifying anything? Yeah, I think people know
Speaker 1: that the earth is on fire and that if we don't, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I just was surprised because I'm like, everything
Speaker 1: is so rigged. There's nothing you can even do about it,
Speaker 1: you know. I'm I'm just like, when you watch the
Speaker 1: cycles of this stuff, it gets really hard to have
Speaker 1: like a ray of hope about anything. Yeah. And this
Speaker 1: was and this did go against the you know, previous
Speaker 1: historical trea And this might just be my core like
Speaker 1: half Jewish, half Irish Catholic temperament is to just like,
Speaker 1: assume the worst possible thing is going to happen, and
Speaker 1: then if it doesn't be like for now, you win
Speaker 1: today earth. You know, it does seem like I mean,
Speaker 1: one of the big things that was supposedly driving the
Speaker 1: red wave that never happened was this idea that crime
Speaker 1: was out of control and that Republicans were going to
Speaker 1: come through and you know, capitalize on that. But I
Speaker 1: mean that wasn't just Republicans. That's like the l am
Speaker 1: oral race and all these crazy endorsements yesterday from celebrities
Speaker 1: who you know, everybody's like, why would like Snoop Dogg
Speaker 1: and Katie Perry endorse Rick Cruso. It's like he clearly
Speaker 1: paid a PR firm like a billion you know, he
Speaker 1: clearly paid them because they're clear billionaires and that he
Speaker 1: just paid them and they are endorsing him because he
Speaker 1: paid them. But yeah, like like there is this you know,
Speaker 1: upper class sentiment in Los Angeles of like, you know,
Speaker 1: people hating the homeless and people above a certain tax
Speaker 1: bracket being like, well, we can't have that on my
Speaker 1: streets of the house that I own because property values,
Speaker 1: which is wild too, because for all the Chris Pratt's
Speaker 1: and Haiti Perry's. They're like, I've seen first hand what's happened.
Speaker 1: You're from Santa Barbara full get the funk out of here,
Speaker 1: and Christ but you're not from here either, so what
Speaker 1: the funk do you know? And plus by the time
Speaker 1: you got here, you were you don't think you were
Speaker 1: living in neighborhoods that had on housed people. I also like,
Speaker 1: I watched this documentary yesterday about a couple of days
Speaker 1: ago about the Automat in New York, the like cafeteria,
Speaker 1: old timey cafeteria windows you could pull out, the like
Speaker 1: you're and it's about that, and it's just old like
Speaker 1: old celebrities being like you could go and get coffee
Speaker 1: for a nickel, and then it takes this insane twist
Speaker 1: in the middle where it's like and then they tried
Speaker 1: to unionize, and we busted the union, and then mysteriously
Speaker 1: the automatics declined and it was because all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like homeless people could hang out there in midtown and
Speaker 1: so they became a horrible place to go because of
Speaker 1: all the homeless people. It was crazy. I was truly
Speaker 1: like mad at this documentary because it was very like
Speaker 1: seemed innocuous and then ended up blaming the homeless for
Speaker 1: the decline of public space. And I was like, you mean,
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan, bro no, I had. I had some of
Speaker 1: the best financial years of my career under the Reagan administration.
Speaker 1: I will not bite the hand that using a sentiment
Speaker 1: from those people, well, you are the the wolf of
Speaker 1: ball Street. Yeah, it does. I mean it's too early
Speaker 1: to say, like to pull too much detailed like messaging
Speaker 1: out of this, but like there does seem to be
Speaker 1: you know, we we were talking about it felt like
Speaker 1: there was extra wind behind anyone who could position themselves
Speaker 1: as being outside of the like business as usual political mainstream.
Speaker 1: I think, well, I think the left obviously like has
Speaker 1: a little bit of that that like the mainstream Democrats
Speaker 1: don't really want to engage with them. They're always trying
Speaker 1: to be like it's raight, you know, these radical positions
Speaker 1: are the reason that like, you know, we're losing it's
Speaker 1: because because of you know, leftists. Then it just becomes
Speaker 1: increasingly clear that the leftist positions, the basic freedoms and
Speaker 1: basic quality of life ship is really important to people,
Speaker 1: and you know, we absolutely need like a new deal
Speaker 1: type thing that re establishes, you know, some kind of
Speaker 1: safety net for people in this country, which again is
Speaker 1: like the fucking reason we have a homeless problem, you know, nationwide,
Speaker 1: is because there are no safety nets for people in America.
Speaker 1: And this bootstrapping ship we've been doing since the eighties,
Speaker 1: it clearly doesn't work. Stopped buying that, I hope so
Speaker 1: because they also just think it's like everybody's fucking broke,
Speaker 1: and so even people that like make a good living,
Speaker 1: it's like cost of living is so high, rent is
Speaker 1: so fucking high, and like no one can afford to
Speaker 1: buy a house. So people are seeing just like you know, concrete,
Speaker 1: like this sucks everything. The rent is too damn high. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they want other stuff. The way Republicans stepped outside
Speaker 1: of the mainstream seemed to be too in a lot
Speaker 1: of cases. Focus on like the Q and on Republicans
Speaker 1: did like the fascist When things are going really bad,
Speaker 1: the fascists say it's because of you know, whatever minority
Speaker 1: is doing it to you. And obviously there's been a
Speaker 1: lot of sucking anti Semitism coming back, which is like
Speaker 1: classic and like times of turmoil. That's why anti semitism
Speaker 1: got so popular in Germany after the Wars because everybody
Speaker 1: was in Germany had lost their ship in World War
Speaker 1: One and Germany was doing really bad, and everybody was like,
Speaker 1: whose fault is it? It can't be the fault of like,
Speaker 1: you know, international fucking markets. It must be the Jew,
Speaker 1: the wandering Jew, who's you know, traveling from land to
Speaker 1: land creating chaos. So I think I'm just Nicole. I
Speaker 1: was just like, Wow, everyone's really gonna go for that.
Speaker 1: You know, everyone's gonna We're just gonna slide deeper and
Speaker 1: deeper into fascism forever. But I do also feel like
Speaker 1: I see in real life that like people are energized
Speaker 1: and organizing locally because things are so bad and they
Speaker 1: want to do something and they know that government is
Speaker 1: kind of useless. Yeah, I think that was the one
Speaker 1: thing that I was surprised by, how like, I think
Speaker 1: we knew this at a certain point. We're like, man,
Speaker 1: people don't really seem to like want to keep talking
Speaker 1: about like some conspiracy theory around the election because like
Speaker 1: that doesn't really affect their lives and like the things
Speaker 1: that are impacting them on a day to day basis.
Speaker 1: And the I think it's also like those people lose
Speaker 1: interest if you're like the type of person who's attracted
Speaker 1: to every like shiny new conspiracy theory babble and you're
Speaker 1: following a trail of of breadcrumbs or whatever and then
Speaker 1: nothing ever comes of it, Like you're gonna get bored eventually. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have to have some kind of like reward for
Speaker 1: for following this you know, insane. Yeah. There, there's just
Speaker 1: everybody's just at this like really high up level where
Speaker 1: clearly like the disconnected nous of you know, people that
Speaker 1: are at the heights of like like that our news
Speaker 1: and our media and things like that are like everyone
Speaker 1: at the same time, like, yo, the status quo ain't working.
Speaker 1: Like they're trying to bang on a fucking broken TV
Speaker 1: and they're like what the fuck. It's looks like everybody
Speaker 1: on TV is like a private jet. But the issue
Speaker 1: like there is just sort of that there's because of this,
Speaker 1: like because of them trying to uphold this just obviously
Speaker 1: broken pattern of governance. At the same time, it's shading people,
Speaker 1: like and people are starting to understand that man, a
Speaker 1: lot of the ship that they're offering as solutions are
Speaker 1: not solutions. The things that they're saying, problems are not
Speaker 1: actual problems that are affecting me and my day to day,
Speaker 1: So what the funk is actually going to be different?
Speaker 1: And I think that's why so many people were just
Speaker 1: kind of like looking at the coverage and being like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I guess this is what it is.
Speaker 1: Like people aren't really connecting the dots with inflation or whatever,
Speaker 1: but it seemed like they were despite that. They were
Speaker 1: They're saying, yeah, inflation is bad, rather the corporate profiteering
Speaker 1: is bad at the moment that we're calling inflation. And
Speaker 1: I still rather like, at the end of the day
Speaker 1: of the priorities, are these other larger threats to me
Speaker 1: that I've identified, rather than people normally saying, here's the playbook,
Speaker 1: full numbers are low. Just ring the inflation things, talk
Speaker 1: about the gas prices and that will bring all the right.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's like that quote I forget maybe it's
Speaker 1: ups in Sinclair where it's like, you know, everybody in
Speaker 1: America thinks they're temporarily embarrassed millionaire, and that's like also
Speaker 1: the promise of Trump is like, you know, you're going
Speaker 1: to be rich like me. We're all going to be businessmen.
Speaker 1: And again, I think people are just so broke that
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if even people on the right,
Speaker 1: you know, are like, I'm I'm not going to be
Speaker 1: rich it turns out, you know, and also worse than that,
Speaker 1: I might be like too broke to live and be
Speaker 1: actively harmed by the current like market led status quo
Speaker 1: where we just trust bankers to like invest and like
Speaker 1: make all decisions behind closed doors with like established And
Speaker 1: I think most people can see that they're closer to
Speaker 1: homelessness than they are to being a millionaire. You know
Speaker 1: that if the if the aero spins, you're more you know,
Speaker 1: you have a much higher chance of falling into abject poverty.
Speaker 1: And just the way this country is set up is
Speaker 1: like a fucking shitty carnival game where it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think people some of the things
Speaker 1: that I don't know. Maybe it's a little encouraging that
Speaker 1: some of the things that seemed like talking points that
Speaker 1: were like so far left nobody could understand why you
Speaker 1: should just have free healthcare instead of having it tied
Speaker 1: to employment as they make employment like more and more
Speaker 1: are hard to sustain. You know, those are starting to
Speaker 1: feel like people people are like, yeah, why is the
Speaker 1: government we pay taxes? They should go to something that
Speaker 1: actually helps everybody. Right, It does seem like there are
Speaker 1: clear lessons the Democrats should take away from this. They
Speaker 1: are not gonna boy or they ever gonna they're going
Speaker 1: to fumble it. The thing that Fetterman had was seeming
Speaker 1: like he was outside and also like talking about solutions,
Speaker 1: like having like pretty standard talking points that he came
Speaker 1: back to, and I think it's like he's such a
Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna they're gonna suck it up, obviously,
Speaker 1: But it does seem like with Fetterman, there's this clear
Speaker 1: precedent now of like get like a real fucking working
Speaker 1: class hero guy who doesn't look like a like a
Speaker 1: you know, groomed for TV politician. Him and Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: used the same stylist. I know, you're gonna see like
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi come out and like cut off footie sleeves
Speaker 1: and and like AOC one again, you know, which is
Speaker 1: also like she's also like, you know, obviously people become
Speaker 1: in the establishment once they get in, but it is
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, she has some qualities that make her
Speaker 1: non traditional and and again just get some fucking younger
Speaker 1: people in there. There was that thing about Chuck Grassley
Speaker 1: getting reelected and about how he's chocolate than the recipe
Speaker 1: for chocolate chip bookies six years six years older than
Speaker 1: the invention of chocolate chip cookies, like in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1: Just I know this is a local story, but I
Speaker 1: do think it is very instructive. So, you know, the
Speaker 1: mayoral race still too close to call between billionaire Republican
Speaker 1: you know caused playing as the Democrat Rick Crusoe and
Speaker 1: Karen Bass, who is like very established Democrat credentials, and
Speaker 1: both of them are are running behind Kenneth Mahia, who
Speaker 1: is a thirty one year old who you know, worked
Speaker 1: and he's he won for a city controller, which I'm
Speaker 1: not a political expert, but that sounds controller. Sounds like
Speaker 1: a pretty accountant and being like really transparent world like
Speaker 1: money goes, and that's a huge thing to have somebody
Speaker 1: with like a spine doing that because typically you're just
Speaker 1: like h and he's somebody who's come out against the
Speaker 1: Olympics before Olympics that we are against because he's spent
Speaker 1: like this is a huge waste of money. We have
Speaker 1: so many things that need money in Los Angeles. Why
Speaker 1: would we ever spend money on this? But his whole
Speaker 1: like campaign was focused on here is a graph. He
Speaker 1: he had like these billboards all around the city that
Speaker 1: was like here is a graph of how tax dollars
Speaker 1: are actually spent, and you know, just showing people how
Speaker 1: drastic the police budget outpaces anything else. And just like
Speaker 1: I had like memes type stuff he had like this corky.
Speaker 1: It was very like it was it's kind of like
Speaker 1: you oriented, oh yeah, but just focusing having solutions, focusing
Speaker 1: on solutions to the problems that people actually have in
Speaker 1: their lives seems like it should be a very clean,
Speaker 1: clear takeaway for the Democratic Party from this. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's also like people voted against the cops,
Speaker 1: which is like, yes, clearly a thing the Democrats are
Speaker 1: never thinking about. But that did feel also a little
Speaker 1: bit like like, yeah, the world has changed, man, Like
Speaker 1: we are in an era similar to the backlash to
Speaker 1: the Vietnam War where people are like, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: we want our money spent on things that you know
Speaker 1: matter to us and aren't just to like increase the
Speaker 1: imperialist war Machines coffers in a way that helps nobody
Speaker 1: in America. All we are saying is give a cabach.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Republicans have pretty have a pretty
Speaker 1: clear like message to take away that. It's like if
Speaker 1: you just double down on you know, being white supremacist,
Speaker 1: anti woke, like use that as your messaging to be
Speaker 1: outside the mainstream like that worked for like de Santists
Speaker 1: and Kemp and people like that. And I feel like
Speaker 1: the Republicans will learn that message, you know, as opposed
Speaker 1: to focusing on Q and on and MEGA and you
Speaker 1: know ship people don't actually care about. You know, some
Speaker 1: people like some states went anti abortion, like it was
Speaker 1: not yes, states were also you know, like I think
Speaker 1: it was in Louisiana where they're like, yeah, yeah, well
Speaker 1: we funk with slavery technically, so we'll vote for that.
Speaker 1: There was a there was a slavery ballot on a
Speaker 1: but you know it was like like we officially out
Speaker 1: lost slavery. People were surprised by that. I don't know why.
Speaker 1: If you read a little history book, it's like did
Speaker 1: you see the Third All right? Maybe not? But like
Speaker 1: I think just again with Republicans, Jack, like you're saying,
Speaker 1: like the lesson for if there is a I mean
Speaker 1: you're starting to see like the New York Post, Fox
Speaker 1: fucking O A N they're all going like they're all
Speaker 1: making Google eyes at the Santists now. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're now because you hear a lot of
Speaker 1: people say, well, you know, we had to run with
Speaker 1: these MAGA candidates even though the RNC didn't want them,
Speaker 1: or like you know, Grim Reaper McConnell didn't want them,
Speaker 1: and we went with these and then that's that's why
Speaker 1: we've completely fucked it up. And I think they're you know,
Speaker 1: they're starting to again pretend like maybe they can divorce
Speaker 1: themselves from Trump, but it's really it's gonna be really
Speaker 1: I think that's the other thing that's gonna be really
Speaker 1: interesting is because the mid terms performance was so poor,
Speaker 1: like all like so much of the good news that
Speaker 1: you see on conservative news like the day after the
Speaker 1: election is all focusing on like how well the Santists did. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I also think the doctor the doctor Oz Fetterman
Speaker 1: race is kind of like an interesting blowback to Trump
Speaker 1: because it's like, wait, somebody can't just win because they're
Speaker 1: on television, you know. Yeah, I think Trump kind of
Speaker 1: like created this idea of like people will just vote
Speaker 1: for anyone who's famous because they're so stupid, And maybe
Speaker 1: that's not true. The Republicans are still probably going to
Speaker 1: control the House because of jerrymandering, and like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of, you know, very clear failures for the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party to grapple with and and some very clear lessons
Speaker 1: for them to learn, and we've seen it. And they're
Speaker 1: gonna play the better hill music and fall down a
Speaker 1: hundred times, just crazy willing to ignore the ship out
Speaker 1: of the anything. They're gonna roller skate on a bunch
Speaker 1: of banana peels before they learn one thing from this.
Speaker 1: But alright, well, let's take a quick break. We'll come
Speaker 1: back and we'll talk about how we all want are
Speaker 1: headsets that can kill us, and we're back and yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, so there there was this kind of fake
Speaker 1: headline that was being picked up by all all the
Speaker 1: trusted journalistic institutions, the New York Post, Men's Health, kt
Speaker 1: l A, the local news, but the headline was Oculus
Speaker 1: founder creates a VR headset that kills you if you
Speaker 1: die in the game. The man behind Oculus Rift has
Speaker 1: designed a VR headset that can kill you, and if
Speaker 1: you die in this VR game, it will kill you
Speaker 1: in real life. Yeah, the paving the way for a
Speaker 1: future in which people mourn the loss of a loved
Speaker 1: one who tragically died after skidting on a banana peal
Speaker 1: dropped by Luigi Too. You know, oh no, you know this.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that, I mean, it's just mainstream medium mal practice,
Speaker 1: because that's not actually what it. I mean, it leads
Speaker 1: you towards an like all the VR stuff, it's always fake. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're always like, you're going to fuck a woman through
Speaker 1: the computer, Like I don't. I don't think they have
Speaker 1: that yet. Yeah, it's yeah, people, I think that the
Speaker 1: headline was meant to evoke the Matrix, where if you
Speaker 1: die in the matrix, the virtual reality is so perfect,
Speaker 1: such a perfect simulation, that your brain doesn't know the
Speaker 1: difference and you basically just die psychosomatically. They literally always
Speaker 1: say this, and then you try Oculus Rift and you're like,
Speaker 1: this is game Boy three D, Like, yeah, you haven't
Speaker 1: improved this technology at all. Wearing a big dumb thing
Speaker 1: on your head and you're never not aware of that
Speaker 1: was actually called virtual boy. Virtual boy. It gives you
Speaker 1: a headache. I remember, Yeah, that thing was the worst
Speaker 1: that had That was probably the worst, like actual it's
Speaker 1: just failed to deliver on every My friend Dan had
Speaker 1: one and I and I played it. It was like
Speaker 1: it truly gives you such a headache, and it is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just emblematic of the promise versus the reality of
Speaker 1: virtual reality, which is that guess what, real real reality
Speaker 1: kick sticks. Why would you ever need virtual reality? Yeah,
Speaker 1: real reality will actually kill it, you motherfucker. Don't. That's right,
Speaker 1: go outside. So there's been other VR designers who have
Speaker 1: actually like used this storyline type the power of their product,
Speaker 1: Like there was this guy, I'm just gonna read a quote.
Speaker 1: We're very close to having the first death in VR.
Speaker 1: Pause for the crowd to go wild when the commercial
Speaker 1: version comes out. Something is going to scare somebody to death,
Speaker 1: somebody with a heart condition or something like that. It
Speaker 1: is going to happen, absolutely somebody with a heart condition
Speaker 1: or something like that. You shouldn't be using the product probably,
Speaker 1: So that's it's like horror movie advertising, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like you might die from this hord house. So the
Speaker 1: person the thing that drove the headline though, this recent
Speaker 1: Oculus headline is that he basically like the guy who
Speaker 1: created Iculus Rift, what's the name, like Lucky something Palmer.
Speaker 1: So I think he recognized that this was a talking
Speaker 1: point that people were like hungry for. So what he
Speaker 1: did was create a single headset that had three explosive
Speaker 1: charges attached to it and would blow up your head
Speaker 1: if you died, as like a proof of concept, Like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: he invented the he meanted a saw trap to yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like he said that, he like, we don't. The
Speaker 1: screen flashes read at a specific frequency, so that suggests
Speaker 1: that like that somehow kills you and he's like, and
Speaker 1: then that causes the thing to explode your fucking head.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure the people who strapped a bomb on
Speaker 1: the neck of that pizza delivery driver had also figured
Speaker 1: out this technology. That's exactly what it made me think of. Two,
Speaker 1: that's so fucked up. There's a black mirror where that happens, obviously, right,
Speaker 1: But like I don't understand, Like, is that people's dream
Speaker 1: to die playing a video game? Like I know we're
Speaker 1: all doing the death drive a little bit with this stuff,
Speaker 1: but like, no, I really want to die that's I
Speaker 1: don't think you want to. I mean, look like I said,
Speaker 1: you you're you're playing a game of chance with your
Speaker 1: life every day by merely existing. So like, have you
Speaker 1: ever seen that thing about the roller coaster that kills you?
Speaker 1: That someone designed the roller coaster the life at Magic
Speaker 1: out and kill like two people. I mean sometimes roller
Speaker 1: coasters kill people, but um, you know, like people who
Speaker 1: talk about roller coasters say, the whole thing is that,
Speaker 1: like the excitement is that you might die and you don't. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like you almost you know, you're you're like you're
Speaker 1: flirting with death a little bit. You're just like feelings
Speaker 1: like why would you invent a roller coaster? It's such
Speaker 1: an insane thing to invent, but somebody designed one. You
Speaker 1: should look it up. Scary. It's a roller coaster where
Speaker 1: it's like loops and the loops get smaller and smaller
Speaker 1: and eventually it would like make you have a brain
Speaker 1: aneurysm or something and die. Nice. Yeah, it would like
Speaker 1: deprive oxygen to your brain or something. Oh wow, is
Speaker 1: that scary. I think the thing that people are hoping
Speaker 1: for is something that experientially is like so scary that
Speaker 1: it kills you, and then there are all these engineers
Speaker 1: and like, by the way, the guy who like created
Speaker 1: Oculus riffed Lucky whatever Lucky Palmer, which I can't believe
Speaker 1: that's a humans name. That is like trying to But
Speaker 1: he went on to like work for a defense cut,
Speaker 1: Like he gets tillions and millions of dollars from the
Speaker 1: government to create like underwater drones and ship Okay, so
Speaker 1: this man literally builds fucking death machines, that's what you're
Speaker 1: saying he does. That's what I mean is like some
Speaker 1: of this stuff, like when you tell me the thing
Speaker 1: about the device that blows up your head. Yeah, you're like, well,
Speaker 1: where does this lead? It leads to, like you know,
Speaker 1: it's like it's a yeah, it's like a board engineer
Speaker 1: at Raytheon's like, dude, what if I made a thing
Speaker 1: that killed the operator rather than the other way. Right,
Speaker 1: There's it's a pretty metal idea. What if I just
Speaker 1: had hired someone to shoot me in the head, if
Speaker 1: I shot if I funked up at Tetris, I mean
Speaker 1: you see that. Like it's like the people who meyer
Speaker 1: like naxi on Ingenuity, you know, well they made the
Speaker 1: best death machines it's like that fucking sucks. But they
Speaker 1: were so they didn't make them. Fucking American companies made them.
Speaker 1: That's what's so fucked up. It was like that all
Speaker 1: you know, IBM and people were the people who made
Speaker 1: all the things and the headlines of this post generated
Speaker 1: made it made it seemed like the VR Murder game
Speaker 1: was going to be shipped out in time for Christmas.
Speaker 1: But it's really you know what I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: if there was money in the if there was money
Speaker 1: and murdering people, like, of course every tech guy on
Speaker 1: Earth will be into it, you know, right, they love that.
Speaker 1: That's the blue Sky challenge they love the most. Just like,
Speaker 1: was the most efficient way to like murder somebody with
Speaker 1: a VR machine? Right? Can we do it with the
Speaker 1: loading screen? Will that be scary? I feel like they're
Speaker 1: still buying into the mouth Susian thing of like there's
Speaker 1: too many people. Let's oh, it's lower the population. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's like the eco fascist stuff is the
Speaker 1: real right wing stuff that's terrifying because they for sure
Speaker 1: think that. Yeah yeah, and now they're saying stuff I
Speaker 1: love that. There's a real big take. Now it's like
Speaker 1: gen Z's ruining this country at the ballot box. So
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see what kind of fucking weird
Speaker 1: nonsense we see him at young people. Well, Molly Lambert,
Speaker 1: always a pleasure having you on the dailies like Geist.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Wow?
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Well. I am off Twitter for
Speaker 1: the time being and maybe forever because I as as
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, I blew up my own Twitter with a
Speaker 1: VR helmet that excluded I did actually engineer machine to
Speaker 1: blow up my Twitter Twitter death, which was a tweet
Speaker 1: about Drake and Elon musk Bean Dorks. So you can
Speaker 1: find me right now on Instagram at Molly Underscore Lambert,
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Speaker 1: My Heart Radio featuring Jackie and Miles. Yeah, man, you're
Speaker 1: Jesse Flice. Miles is James khn famous now deceased actor
Speaker 1: James Canine. And that did happen after Miles played him
Speaker 1: like the performance in and he was like, I'm my
Speaker 1: my persona is in good hands. I can shuffle off absolutely,
Speaker 1: I'll be playing Henry Kissinger. Oh you don't even know.
Speaker 1: You might be right? Get ready for phase two. Is
Speaker 1: there a tweet or some of the work of social
Speaker 1: media you've been enjoying, Molly, I mean, I think I
Speaker 1: mentioned it earlier, but the finding out that a senator
Speaker 1: was older than chocolate chip cookies really really made me laugh. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm I reached the end of Twitter because I met
Speaker 1: Drill in real life? Who at d R I L
Speaker 1: d R I L I met Drill, the man, the myth,
Speaker 1: the legend. Wow? What was that like? And and just
Speaker 1: like the Wizard of Oz, he was literally just some guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was like, Wow, never meet your Twitter
Speaker 1: heroes in a cape behind a giant screen though, right now,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's really nice. He's really nice, He's very
Speaker 1: nice in real life. It's just um, pretty amazing, because
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, Elon Musk has so much money,
Speaker 1: so much power, and all he wants is to beat
Speaker 1: this guy who's just now funny of miles. Where can
Speaker 1: people find you? What are the tweet you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of a gray.
Speaker 1: Let's see blah blah blah blah blah, some tweets that
Speaker 1: I like. Oh, first of all, you can find obviously
Speaker 1: Jack and I are our basketball podcast new episode of
Speaker 1: Miles and Jack Got Mad Boost These just dropped today,
Speaker 1: so check that out. Also, check me and Sophia Alexander
Speaker 1: out on four twenty day Fiance. But I think in
Speaker 1: the coming weeks I will have guest host Lydia Popovich
Speaker 1: on to talk about ninety day Fiance, So check all
Speaker 1: that out. Some tweets that I like, I just uh uh,
Speaker 1: I don't even know, like, uh it just don't even
Speaker 1: just I honestly really wasn't looking much at Twitter except
Speaker 1: for some of these. Uh oh, this is interesting. At
Speaker 1: b b C TA s I I t A H
Speaker 1: said why are you, as an adult using a third
Speaker 1: party app to track who un follows you? And I
Speaker 1: am absolutely like, yeah, let see people like I noticed
Speaker 1: so and so on follow me. I'm like, are you
Speaker 1: are we a sixth grade? Like? Free yourself from keeping
Speaker 1: score like that? That is fucking self destruction in an
Speaker 1: app m Some tweets I enjoyed. Senator Lemon go Gert tweeted,
Speaker 1: oh is there a vote ball happening during the vote,
Speaker 1: because Yeah, let's just that resonated with me as a
Speaker 1: sports sometimes sports fan, Ashton Btuso tweeted, congrats on your
Speaker 1: I voted sticker. I bet the sea turtles love them.
Speaker 1: I had my polling place brand me with hot iron
Speaker 1: because I actually care about the environment. And yeah, you
Speaker 1: got one more I forgot. I thought I was. I
Speaker 1: buried all the fun tweets that I had. Another one
Speaker 1: is from at two thick Scoops that said TikTok is
Speaker 1: full of the most helpless people in the entire world.
Speaker 1: You could post a recipe for Pepperoni pizza and the
Speaker 1: comments will be full of people shaking in their boots
Speaker 1: saying can I put sausage on it instead? No, you can't,
Speaker 1: you will die. You can find me on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at
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Speaker 1: Were a link off the information that we talked about
Speaker 1: in today's episode as well. Is a song that we
Speaker 1: think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think
Speaker 1: people mightn't do? Uh? This is a track from Sans
Speaker 1: s O n z e I r a U d J,
Speaker 1: who like mashes up a ton of really dope Brazilian music.
Speaker 1: This track is called oh by show Don Okay, so
Speaker 1: it's oh then the next word is b A I
Speaker 1: x O than d O space K A S s
Speaker 1: I N. And it's like this. Really it's like dub
Speaker 1: but like sample based with a lot of Brazilian music.
Speaker 1: It's just like a really interesting like tapestry of Brazilian
Speaker 1: sounds and styles all thrown together to give you this
Speaker 1: new sound. Also check this out. I won't say the
Speaker 1: name again because I probably just pronounced it, or you
Speaker 1: can rewind it. I would say it one more time,
Speaker 1: Oh by show do casine? Alright? Well? The Daily Zis
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