Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty four,
Speaker 1: episode two of Dirt at Leish Guys production of My
Speaker 1: Heart Radio. This is a podcast. Will we take a
Speaker 1: deep dive into America's share consciousness? And it is Tuesday,
Speaker 1: November twenty eleven. Two. Yeah, you think you know eleven
Speaker 1: to two, you add them together, you get eleven plus
Speaker 1: a let one day. There's only one fucking day. This
Speaker 1: is like weird when there's only one day. But the
Speaker 1: one day that is on the pay to be at
Speaker 1: holiday calendar is National Cranberry Relish Day. Yes, I've been
Speaker 1: here a lot of No, No, okay, do you like
Speaker 1: just my response to every everything? But do you like
Speaker 1: any thoughts? Hell? Yeah, box on a cranberry relish. I
Speaker 1: like cranberry sauace, but I don't believe that's cranberry relish.
Speaker 1: Doesn't have to have pickles in it to be relish. No, No,
Speaker 1: I think it's just like this is cranberry. But it's
Speaker 1: like it's definitely like fruitier. You can see the meat
Speaker 1: of the fruit, flesh of it in this whatever. I
Speaker 1: prefer the jelly. The jelly, can't you know, can shape
Speaker 1: like where you can see the ridges from the what
Speaker 1: do you eat that for? To contrast like a little
Speaker 1: scoop mix it up every time I've had it, like
Speaker 1: the judgment. It's not judgment, I just I'm putting myself
Speaker 1: in that experience on the floor. I'm like, no, I
Speaker 1: don't want to eat out of out of the blue cranberry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like, it's just a it adds a little contrast
Speaker 1: to the old palate. We we also do a like
Speaker 1: dessert dish right on the plate with the Thanksgiving fixings,
Speaker 1: sweet potato crunch, which I don't It got in there
Speaker 1: as like a sweet potato like mashed sweet potato cast
Speaker 1: role thing, but I've just evolved it so that it's
Speaker 1: mostly like the crunch layer, which is just like the
Speaker 1: round sugar like crystallized brittle. Yeah, it's It's the sweetest
Speaker 1: thing on like that that I've ever had on any day.
Speaker 1: And it comes out with the turkey, which I want
Speaker 1: the same plate. Yeah, I don't. I don't mind it
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, I'm a sick fuck Miles. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: can you say? My name is Jack O'Brien a k.
Speaker 1: This Apple's ten percent pink smithcent my favorite apple, Honey
Speaker 1: christ five percent Fuji pent Plain. I think they're sugar Bees,
Speaker 1: but can't remember the name. That's courtesy of Fighter of
Speaker 1: the Night Man little remember the name? Ak Yeah, And
Speaker 1: you know it's really a story about apples and my
Speaker 1: failing brain, because then think I talked for twenty minutes
Speaker 1: about an apple that I couldn't remember the name of.
Speaker 1: It was sugar bee. Sugar bees are sugar A new
Speaker 1: play has entered the chat or the game or whatever
Speaker 1: it is. Sugar Bees. They're fucking delicious on a good day. Also,
Speaker 1: cherry apples, little tiny apples there. This is their season
Speaker 1: and they're pretty delicious. I'm thrilled to be joined as
Speaker 1: always by my co host, Mr Miles Grass. It's hard
Speaker 1: to believe that this restaurants out there. It's hard to
Speaker 1: believe that I've never been. At least I have their
Speaker 1: love Tea Deezy. They love me hungry as I have.
Speaker 1: Together we dine and I just really want some cheese.
Speaker 1: Mights not monorate, get it? How to bubbling up on
Speaker 1: that crust today? Pepper Brooni slides for me? I won't
Speaker 1: it every day? Take me to the place I love
Speaker 1: Red Hossypky Okay, shout out Blake Rogers. Did I do
Speaker 1: that one last week? Did you? I think I would
Speaker 1: have done that one last week? It was good? It
Speaker 1: was good. Well, then allow me to do this one
Speaker 1: for you. If that wasn't enough. Guess what pineapple goes
Speaker 1: on every pizza? Bread sticks tastes bad to win the cheese.
Speaker 1: Uh here's a sisive ship with Terry Yucky glaze. Chad
Speaker 1: Smith had a piece just the other day. Kiff cod
Speaker 1: is govting with some sodcast Rick Ruben's vegan. He's a
Speaker 1: hard pass good friends, your tastes what we aim to please?
Speaker 1: Add on dates and goche please Okay? Now that one
Speaker 1: was from the Beating Drum on Discord. Yeah, I did
Speaker 1: that one on Tuesday. Man. Okay, Well, allow me to
Speaker 1: get you with this one. Miles. We are thrilled to
Speaker 1: be joined by a patient and brilliant filmmaker, writer, actor, comedian,
Speaker 1: podcaster who co founded with the A V Club called
Speaker 1: one of the best podcast networks out there, Small Beans
Speaker 1: where you can find he and a bunch of the
Speaker 1: most talented people we worked with at Cracked hosting shows.
Speaker 1: He's the hosting creator of One Upsmanship on this very network.
Speaker 1: It's the brilliant and talented Michael Swam Hey gang, so
Speaker 1: great to be here again. I am Michael Swam a
Speaker 1: k A. I remember when, I Remember when, I remember
Speaker 1: when I lost my my cole. There's something special about
Speaker 1: that sway. That's after several months of singing lessons, still
Speaker 1: not good. But I just joined TikTok and I was
Speaker 1: confronted with that runs that's the new running up that hill? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Wait is it? Oh? Did they just discovered that song?
Speaker 1: You you're supposed to have your fingers on the pulse guys. Yeah, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: there's this person didn't a specifically incredible run of I
Speaker 1: Lost My My and it likes that But it's again,
Speaker 1: it's she really did it, and everyone's getting impressed. That's all.
Speaker 1: I got three c words for you. First, Cosmic Crisp,
Speaker 1: the brand new apple that's the best apple out there,
Speaker 1: Colmic Crisp. Cosmic Crisp was killing it. In fact, our
Speaker 1: local grocery store is now constantly out of the Cosmic Crisp.
Speaker 1: And it says there's a big sticker on it. You know,
Speaker 1: this is how it got me. That says tastes like candy,
Speaker 1: and boy, it sure does. I don't know what kind
Speaker 1: of genetic monkey shines they got up to, Like, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's not healthy, but it's a great apple. And
Speaker 1: then compote. You left that compote. Yeah, there's jelly, there's jellet,
Speaker 1: there's mash muddle um. But I'm a fan of the
Speaker 1: compote like that. There's a crayoned orange compote from Trader Joe's.
Speaker 1: That's excellent. So what is it? What's the difference between
Speaker 1: a compote jelly to log and relish. Well, I watch
Speaker 1: a lot of petitive reality chef game shows, so I've
Speaker 1: learned that very little. Like I've learned when you present
Speaker 1: the dish, part of it is bullshitting like you used
Speaker 1: to on high school essays, Like I really think part
Speaker 1: of it is being very good at calling it a
Speaker 1: jale and staying up with the new trendy lingo like
Speaker 1: a puree. Is there's something else? I forget? You're like,
Speaker 1: and uh, I think it's just words. But I would
Speaker 1: say there are broad categories, and they usually refer to
Speaker 1: like the viscosity. Miles had it right, it's the you
Speaker 1: see the meat of the nut or the chunk of
Speaker 1: the meat or whatever, but to me implies multiple it's
Speaker 1: cranberry and you've got some orange in there. Comp is
Speaker 1: when you when you make a jelly, do you also
Speaker 1: like boil it in like sugar water? I do know.
Speaker 1: Jelly is like when like the can like solid and
Speaker 1: then jam is when there's still. Yeah. From time of
Speaker 1: watching those cooking shows too, I think it's like when
Speaker 1: you have when you're like cooking the whole fruits down
Speaker 1: in like sweet water, and then from there like you can.
Speaker 1: I don't know who gives a ship this is. This
Speaker 1: is a terrible cooking short to the Oxford English Dictionary,
Speaker 1: it's it has to be cooked in syrup to be
Speaker 1: a compound. That's why tastes like candy. Yeah, exactly. I
Speaker 1: think we're I think we're seeing a trend here. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just like that marketing now for fruit is like, man,
Speaker 1: fuck the fruit part of it. This ship tastes like
Speaker 1: candy and it was great. Yeah. That Cosmic Crisp such
Speaker 1: a choice with the name. I love it. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: little circular sticker on it is a little galaxy, purple galaxy.
Speaker 1: It's very hype for an apple. I guess that's the
Speaker 1: only way cosmic. Yeah, it also like suggests some like
Speaker 1: psychedelia it mixed in there. I mean they have a
Speaker 1: very specific vibe. Yeah, it's not. It's a cross between
Speaker 1: the enterprise Apple and the Honey cry So. I think
Speaker 1: the enterprise is what's giving you the cosmic Is that really?
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? Yeah, Cosmic Crisp dot com like
Speaker 1: the fucking lobbying site of the fruit itself. Wow. I
Speaker 1: like to stand there at the Apple aisle like it's
Speaker 1: a weed dispensary and just you know, talk up and
Speaker 1: down the various strains. This apple gives me a real body.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I truly can. The jazz really
Speaker 1: had a strong opening and then hasn't really held on
Speaker 1: as much as I wanted used to be. In my
Speaker 1: stand by you funk with a gallon, I do. They
Speaker 1: don't retain their christness as quit as much as the
Speaker 1: Honey Crisp. Like I I have had some mealy Gala before,
Speaker 1: whereas Honey Crisp or like you know for a hundred
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're almost always crispy, Yeah, whereas Gala
Speaker 1: it's a little bit more of a crap. Shoot, they're
Speaker 1: almost they're almost always really good though, So I'm in
Speaker 1: a purple train rack apples right now, what's that? It's
Speaker 1: just the wead strange. Yeah. I know you're like, wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, no, no, what because that got my ears
Speaker 1: perked up. I was like, well, hold on, well, you know,
Speaker 1: you smoke through a hollowed out apple, but people underestimate
Speaker 1: how important what kind of apple, and it goes through
Speaker 1: and then you eat it after. If you're a real
Speaker 1: fucking loser like we would, I do feel like, uh not,
Speaker 1: honey Crisp, Granny Smith would be because it feels like
Speaker 1: it's the densest, hardest apple. It with Granny Smith, the
Speaker 1: best apple to smoke out of, and it already kind
Speaker 1: of that flavor I find is adjacent to what lawn
Speaker 1: trimmings smell like anyway. Yeah, the grass grass synergy going on. Yeah, interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't want to Yeah, just it feels like a
Speaker 1: utility fruit, you know what I mean? Apple, it's just straight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not a great apple, great pie, apple, great pipe,
Speaker 1: great pipe, terrible fruit. That's all right, Michael. We're going
Speaker 1: to get to know you a little bit better in
Speaker 1: a moment. First, gonna tell our listeners a couple of
Speaker 1: things we're talking about. We're gonna talk about a cop
Speaker 1: twenty seven. The the outcome is a fund which if
Speaker 1: you listen to yesterday's episode, you might have some idea
Speaker 1: of you know where where I'm coming coming from on on, like,
Speaker 1: well just solve it with finance. But we'll we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that idea. We'll talk about another Matt shooting in
Speaker 1: a gay club in Colorado Springs and it seems politically motivated.
Speaker 1: We don't know the details yet. The right is blaming whoever,
Speaker 1: but the cops fucked up again. They're not great at
Speaker 1: protecting people, but doesn't seem like it's their job. And
Speaker 1: then I'm just gonna do a quick review of a
Speaker 1: couple of camps that I've been going to. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: Like a couple of episodes have been a guest host,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were like, where's where's Jack?
Speaker 1: Why's Jack not on this episode? Yeah, well he's being
Speaker 1: in a camp of some kind. We should send him
Speaker 1: Tom is what people are saying, But not not that kind. No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't even know what you're implying. I'm part of
Speaker 1: a project, a modern day night project. It's this camp
Speaker 1: that's like yeah, ky and I g but don't think
Speaker 1: the word plays accidental, because my friend, these are some
Speaker 1: smart and clever people who want to teach you how
Speaker 1: to be like a chimpanzee and not a bonobo. So's
Speaker 1: they're like, you know the difference, asshole, Like, don't penobo's
Speaker 1: sex for alpha male traditionally, Actually it's not. The thing
Speaker 1: that's alpha male is turning on somebody who's been a
Speaker 1: lifelong friend and ripping their penis and face off. Get
Speaker 1: that face, gentlemen. We'll also talk about Trump being back
Speaker 1: on Twitter sort of I don't know, we're all let's
Speaker 1: go fucked well, we'll see, no, no real way to know,
Speaker 1: but maybe we'll get to that, or he'll get sued
Speaker 1: by the people that he's trying to get truth to,
Speaker 1: like take truth public with like they might him if
Speaker 1: he goes. It's like, it's such a weird situation. But
Speaker 1: before we get to any of that, ship Michael, we
Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your
Speaker 1: search history? Oh? Sure, I got three quick ones because
Speaker 1: I went back and back and back and there was
Speaker 1: nothing too spicy. But I do think it's telling. If
Speaker 1: the goal is to get to know me, this is
Speaker 1: highly telling. But when we all thought and we still
Speaker 1: think and every day we think that, well, that's it
Speaker 1: for Twitter, that's the last. Today it's hive, We're all
Speaker 1: going over to ex place. But whatever. The first day
Speaker 1: that was happening, and I was like, it's going to
Speaker 1: shut off at midnight tonight, man, what's your final shout
Speaker 1: out into the void? So I searched Kid Chameleon box
Speaker 1: art and if you haven't seen it, it's highly excellent.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is this is really what I
Speaker 1: want to be remembered by. And now I'm looking at
Speaker 1: it again at the top of my profile and I'm like,
Speaker 1: back tattoo. Maybe it's really good. It's the coolest, it's
Speaker 1: the coolest kid ever in a bunch of different forms
Speaker 1: like corner coop being out at you, and it's just
Speaker 1: my favorite video game art of all time. Was that
Speaker 1: a good game? I don't even really remember a Kid Chameleon? Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was a Genesis game and I loved it because
Speaker 1: it had something like nine levels or something. So when
Speaker 1: I was young enough that I, you know, could only
Speaker 1: for one game for a year, it actually lasted a
Speaker 1: year and I did not beat that game until my
Speaker 1: early thirties when my friend who used to play it
Speaker 1: with me when we were eleven, like came for a
Speaker 1: visit and we're like, let's beat in this week, and
Speaker 1: we did, and it was one of the highlights of
Speaker 1: my life. Probably. I think it's a great game, very imaginative.
Speaker 1: It's no Mario, but it's good. And then the other
Speaker 1: one I'll bring up is I searched saddist song of
Speaker 1: all Time and that was actually for a sketch I
Speaker 1: put out. I was looking for examples of sad songs.
Speaker 1: But I find it very interesting. Like the number one
Speaker 1: with a bullet is always tears in Heaven. I get
Speaker 1: it his son actually died. It feels like a give
Speaker 1: me to me. It feels like you're sort of putting
Speaker 1: us over a musical barrel Eric clap, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like I think, yeah, it's it's such a
Speaker 1: that's such a hard one to put your finger, like
Speaker 1: the saddest song because like it's so unique to a
Speaker 1: person like I'll if God only knows what I'd be
Speaker 1: without you played over any photos like slide show, I
Speaker 1: would cry. Wow. I don't know why, it's just weirds
Speaker 1: that that feels like there's like a cheerful night or
Speaker 1: maybe I just like learned about it too late or something,
Speaker 1: and already I think I think I first heard about
Speaker 1: that in my like twenties, like about like a pet
Speaker 1: sounds is really good. No, I guess it must know
Speaker 1: it's yeah, And it's not because I'm like moved to it.
Speaker 1: It's like usually like it's an a situation where like
Speaker 1: someone like it's at a funeral and then like they'll
Speaker 1: do that and then like it's all these like like
Speaker 1: that French horn comes in and then it's like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: like they had this life and then it kind of
Speaker 1: like evolved like oh my god, it's just they're going out. Yeah.
Speaker 1: That that one, I don't know why, but that's but
Speaker 1: that's just like a weird one that I would never
Speaker 1: say is the saddest song. But I've recently encountered it
Speaker 1: in the last like six years, like a few times,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, this ship, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: It's when you're hitting me at my fucking I get it.
Speaker 1: Can I give you my two real quick? Yeah? After
Speaker 1: much research. Oh to Billy Joe, Bobby Gentry, if you
Speaker 1: haven't heard that, it's about having accidentally getting pregnant in
Speaker 1: the Deep South, in the past and having to get
Speaker 1: rid of the baby by throwing it off a bridge.
Speaker 1: Very very sad. It's beautiful song. And then uh, shoot
Speaker 1: I had it. I had it. No, not the fucking
Speaker 1: hold steady. Oh yeah, yeah, I got to tell this story. Sorry.
Speaker 1: So there's this Pink Floyd song called the Gunner's Dream
Speaker 1: that's about I believe what happened to Roger Waters father
Speaker 1: in the war or someone in the war. It might
Speaker 1: not be as relative, but it's from the point of
Speaker 1: view of a dude getting shot out of a plane
Speaker 1: but being alive and falling to the ground and thinking
Speaker 1: about like I'm gonna miss my kid, I'm gonna miss
Speaker 1: my wife. I wonder what this will be like owner
Speaker 1: with this will be like the thoughts going through your
Speaker 1: head as you plummet to earth and die. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: one's also very sad. Yeah, yeah, there's that. There's that
Speaker 1: one about like the space Shuttle, like cut the Colombia,
Speaker 1: like coming apart on that's so dark, but it's also
Speaker 1: like really beautiful. Gloomy Sunday. I was gonna go with
Speaker 1: Gloomy Sunday a k. The Hungarian Suicide Song, which was
Speaker 1: a song composed in and that like CAUs Day mass
Speaker 1: wave of people taking their own lives. So I got
Speaker 1: to hear that, now, you got to hear it. No
Speaker 1: retually happened, but I've seen that ring I'm not, I'm not,
Speaker 1: I'm good that and so hard to say Goodbody Yesterday
Speaker 1: by Boys to Mind. Yeah, that reminds me too much
Speaker 1: a childhood. Yeah, yeah, it just feels I feel like
Speaker 1: that was also an early one. I would hear funerals too,
Speaker 1: like around that time that album came out, and it's yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's some songs that are sad, but they you can
Speaker 1: tell the people writing them have access to their emotions,
Speaker 1: and I don't feel as sad for them. I'm like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, you seem like you're feeling your emotions
Speaker 1: in a way like country songs I feel like, are like,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of the times doing that. Whereas yeah,
Speaker 1: there there there are some songs that just feel like
Speaker 1: oh man, like yeah, I guess God only knows. Is
Speaker 1: like I I never feel like I always feel like
Speaker 1: there's some subtext that Brian Wilson and the writers of
Speaker 1: those songs are not aware of, and for me, it's
Speaker 1: just more than context, Like like if like I feel like,
Speaker 1: for like sway, if you're searching for the saddest song,
Speaker 1: it's because you're trying to pair it with like you're
Speaker 1: trying to assemble something right, like thinking that, and like
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like when I've seen that song assembled with
Speaker 1: like a tribute thing, Like the second I hear it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, fuck, any song, but this one. What's
Speaker 1: the What's something you think is overrated? Michael? I think
Speaker 1: I may have said this before years ago on this podcast,
Speaker 1: but for different reasons, But I'm going to hit it
Speaker 1: again just in case. Maybe it's my destiny free will.
Speaker 1: Like everyone I know you rely on me for your
Speaker 1: video games information. One upsmanship, folks, It's called one upsmanship.
Speaker 1: I'm playing God of War Ragnarok like everyone is. Actually
Speaker 1: just finished it this morning without any spoiling anything. It's
Speaker 1: about parenthood obviously, but then the b theme right under
Speaker 1: that is death. Is their free will? Or is everything preordained? Like?
Speaker 1: Is the prophecy exists? Can we defy the prophecy? And
Speaker 1: I urge people who playing through it too hold the
Speaker 1: story to account and just think about that question and
Speaker 1: what the thing is trying to say as you go
Speaker 1: through that game because they can't decide, and it's almost
Speaker 1: treats it like a political or religious subject where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we can't come down on it keeps changing like to
Speaker 1: code the message, it's like, yeah, there is free will,
Speaker 1: there isn't free will. Who knows you killed the big boss.
Speaker 1: Let's get out of here, and here's some puzzles. But
Speaker 1: it did make me meditate on we love the idea
Speaker 1: of choice so much, but I really think, especially since
Speaker 1: I've started meditating regularly, I'm much more in the vibe
Speaker 1: of let go be like the stone in the stream
Speaker 1: or what have you. And to me, that does equate
Speaker 1: to I want to try and convince myself that there
Speaker 1: is no free will and really believe it, because then
Speaker 1: it's all good man like at that point, like I
Speaker 1: can trip over a dim sum cart in front of
Speaker 1: everyone and be like, you know, so it shall be
Speaker 1: like nothing is my fault, and you don't judge your
Speaker 1: own internal value based on like did X things right today?
Speaker 1: I fucked up? Why times? Let's do the math, which
Speaker 1: I tend to do. So I'm just deciding, like whatever
Speaker 1: happens happens that it was meant to be don't look
Speaker 1: at me like it's not my problem, it's not my purview. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it's definitely mentally healthy way to be is
Speaker 1: not focused too much on free will and just be
Speaker 1: like this is yeah, this is what is happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: dow is um. You know, a lot a lot of
Speaker 1: different kind of spiritualities focused on the Yeah. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's unique to our time or Western culture,
Speaker 1: but but we seem that like discussed us in some way,
Speaker 1: or we seem to have like no, no, no freedom.
Speaker 1: It's very important that I'm in control of the car, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I have some association of that being like
Speaker 1: the right decision and I'm falling off that. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think America is built on like the idea of
Speaker 1: free will and that like it's all whatever you get,
Speaker 1: you deserve it because you chose it, because it's you know,
Speaker 1: and therefore billionaires and rich people all deserve our undying
Speaker 1: respect because yeah, the accomplishment. Yeah, yeah, you can rationalize
Speaker 1: also not doing ship for other people too, if the
Speaker 1: concept is like, well, their choices lead them to that
Speaker 1: space and mine let me here, and therefore like while
Speaker 1: that is tragic, I don't need to be too consumed
Speaker 1: with what environment that person was operating in the scoreboard,
Speaker 1: Look at the scoreboard. Yeah, there's like I think also
Speaker 1: when you have so much choice or you you bang
Speaker 1: that fucking like theme of freedom over and over and
Speaker 1: over again. It's really about too, It's just about the
Speaker 1: idea of like telling yourself you're not out of control.
Speaker 1: Because if you're able to say, like, no, it's my freedom,
Speaker 1: do this, this and this, you're increasingly putting yourself like
Speaker 1: in this, like your framing your own existence in a
Speaker 1: way that's saying like, oh, because I'm able to control
Speaker 1: many of these things. That's why I rely on this
Speaker 1: thing of free will rather than you know, the other
Speaker 1: thing that's like some ship. You gotta just throw your
Speaker 1: hands up and realize, I'm out of control in this
Speaker 1: and I'm merely like existing in a situation trying to
Speaker 1: navigate it. But yeah, control it, man, control your environment.
Speaker 1: That's old wisdom, but super true, true or older I get. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna learn about how to control your environment, use
Speaker 1: your free will by going to cause dollars for a weekend.
Speaker 1: What is something you think is underrated? Scheduling sex? Speaking
Speaker 1: of preaching middle aged Um, I think we Yeah, my
Speaker 1: partner and I didn't have sex for some length of
Speaker 1: time that I guess I'm not even willing to disclose
Speaker 1: because that's so long. And we were like you also
Speaker 1: get in your head equating it to expectations like oh
Speaker 1: no does that and yeah, everything else in the really
Speaker 1: ship was like ideal. It's like, what does that mean?
Speaker 1: Is the spark dead or whatever we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: or have or do And we came to a place
Speaker 1: where no, it's like, uh, that first initial for us,
Speaker 1: it was like two to three years. But that phase
Speaker 1: where sex just organically happens constantly, always abates and then
Speaker 1: there's no shame. And like, I'm very, very busy doing
Speaker 1: a lot of ship, So I want to tell people
Speaker 1: out there. I want to spread the message that scheduled
Speaker 1: sex to keep the intimacy connection there, super useful tool
Speaker 1: and don't get hung up about like what does it
Speaker 1: mean that it's scheduled. So, I mean, we're currently in
Speaker 1: disagreement about this a little bit. So we've been doing
Speaker 1: phenomenally schedule precision sex R. It's always running out time.
Speaker 1: For some time now, it's been going great. My partner
Speaker 1: last night was like it. That is good. It's a
Speaker 1: useful tool. I think we should also start mixing in
Speaker 1: sometimes what if it's a surprise or spontaneous. And my
Speaker 1: first impulse, I gotta say it was I was like, no,
Speaker 1: like forty five minutes of build, twelve minutes of like
Speaker 1: core work, sixty seconds to two minutes of refractory period.
Speaker 1: It's the drill. I am super routine based, and I
Speaker 1: love it now. But we're so now we're gonna try
Speaker 1: and be spontaneous again too. Have you ever tried to
Speaker 1: be spontaneous? Like it's it's almost doesn't work that yeah,
Speaker 1: but look, I like I like fun protocol, protocol, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like it. I think it's totally
Speaker 1: something that like even yeah, me and being a long
Speaker 1: term relationship, like you always think about those things. You're like,
Speaker 1: whoa what the momentum of like being younger and hornier
Speaker 1: with less responsibility, like is something wrong with us? And no,
Speaker 1: life is evolving And it's also about like you know,
Speaker 1: when you're in a relationship that's like meant to last,
Speaker 1: you look at those things and you navigate them together
Speaker 1: and you come up with things to address them. So yeah,
Speaker 1: rather than feeling guilty, it's like, no, you're trying to
Speaker 1: optimize things, you know, shout a yeah for sure. Again,
Speaker 1: it's the hung up on plans I made, Like somewhere
Speaker 1: in the midst of puberty, when I was constantly harny,
Speaker 1: I heard people older than me saying that actually wears
Speaker 1: off eventually, life gets in the way, like, but it's fine,
Speaker 1: And I thought, no, it's not fine. In my relationship,
Speaker 1: we will bone every day forever, because that's how we'll
Speaker 1: all know what's so in love more than those people.
Speaker 1: But that's a plan I made when I was horny,
Speaker 1: like sixteen year old boy. Why would that be a
Speaker 1: viable plan in your mid thirties? It makes your sense.
Speaker 1: A lot of couples therapists also like echo this is
Speaker 1: a great tool to have, so if you're if you
Speaker 1: feel like because I also think that first of all,
Speaker 1: like the more you know someone, the more you're like
Speaker 1: deep into adult life, spending a lot of time, like
Speaker 1: you know, doing bills and planning your lives together. It's
Speaker 1: an I don't know, it's just like it becomes the
Speaker 1: momentum towards like that conversation. It can be like awkward
Speaker 1: to like skip from this like very you know, normal
Speaker 1: mundane to asking to have sex, and then I feel
Speaker 1: like it can be a also an awkward conversation to
Speaker 1: ask to plan it, but like it's definitely worth it,
Speaker 1: and also if you need help asking to plan it, like,
Speaker 1: there are plenty of resources out there that are like
Speaker 1: this is the cornerstone of like many healthy marriages. So
Speaker 1: just be like I was reading this relationship book or
Speaker 1: you know, getting over that idea that it's that way
Speaker 1: though you can't do that though that ruins the magic.
Speaker 1: It was huge way better now. The magic isn't spontaneously
Speaker 1: fucking all the time. The magic is being connected to
Speaker 1: someone that you can communicate your needs to and navigate
Speaker 1: life to get get that oxytocin however you need to
Speaker 1: and or you know, or just come up with a
Speaker 1: song that when you play it, they know what time
Speaker 1: it is. You know exactly that French horn solo comes in.
Speaker 1: You know, you get super two mess, but you're also sobbing.
Speaker 1: It's a weird. It just it just I don't know, babe,
Speaker 1: just puts me in the right space, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about how we're on this mortal plane and
Speaker 1: how I have transient everything is you know, like you
Speaker 1: feel alive now now God and God only knows an
Speaker 1: without Jews. Alright, let's take a quick break. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back to top to top. Some quop to talk
Speaker 1: something seven soup scop and we're back and Cop twenty
Speaker 1: seven closed. A lot of people were wondering, so, like,
Speaker 1: do we do we have a new agreement that everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna work towards. Do they know the Earth is looking
Speaker 1: at a super chaotic future that we need to take
Speaker 1: drastic action to change their energy mix? What? What? What?
Speaker 1: So it seems like not really or at least, you know,
Speaker 1: as we talked about last week, it's a lot of
Speaker 1: it's become sort of a place for the energy industries
Speaker 1: to go. It's like an industry trade show. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I think despite every scientist ever saying we need to
Speaker 1: phase out fossil fuels in order to you know, make
Speaker 1: a stabilize the climate on the planet, Yeah, the geniuses
Speaker 1: that lead this planet decided they're just that we didn't
Speaker 1: really get we didn't really come to anything on the
Speaker 1: phasing out stuff part. So no agreement was really made
Speaker 1: on that. And this is when analysis is showing that
Speaker 1: like at best, like the countries involved have collectively reduced
Speaker 1: emissions by like point three percent based on their plans
Speaker 1: that they've like unveiled over like, so you're like, what
Speaker 1: the funk is going on? Like this isn't y'all aren't
Speaker 1: even meeting your goals? But what is the deal here?
Speaker 1: But again, there shouldn't be a surprise when the like
Speaker 1: going into this, like the EU, U, k U S,
Speaker 1: they've all been expanding fossil fuel extraction, So it's not
Speaker 1: like what they've in practice has been anything like remotely
Speaker 1: close to what needs to happen. I guess, like the
Speaker 1: one quote unquote good thing that has come out was
Speaker 1: that the wealthier nations agreed to establish a loss in
Speaker 1: Damage fund to support nations in the global South since
Speaker 1: they are experiencing the worst effects of climate change. But
Speaker 1: this is like the bare minimum, considering that most if
Speaker 1: not all, of these countries are facing an omni crisis
Speaker 1: of their own of like debt, COVID induced economic downturns
Speaker 1: on top of the existing inequality that these nations have faced.
Speaker 1: So this is something that's been talked about for like
Speaker 1: over thirty years. So it's not like this. They just
Speaker 1: came up with this novel concept. Many many nations have
Speaker 1: been saying like, you guys, are the ones come like
Speaker 1: creating all of the emissions, but we're dealing with the
Speaker 1: physical fallout of it. You need to come pay these bills,
Speaker 1: and they did. But the know, hold your horses, because
Speaker 1: they haven't actually defined what the amount would be in
Speaker 1: that fun where the money comes from, what the process
Speaker 1: is going to be. That's still very opaque. And yeah,
Speaker 1: but that is more than anything. They're just like paying
Speaker 1: for their sins. It's not changing anything about how it's
Speaker 1: basically all right, fine, can we burn all these fun
Speaker 1: like all this dinosaurs ship if we pay your fucking
Speaker 1: disaster bills? Kind of is what it's. It's what it's
Speaker 1: netting out too. And on top of it, they're like,
Speaker 1: we can also expand the carbon like offset market so
Speaker 1: people can buy like carbon like credits from other nations.
Speaker 1: But that's again has nothing to do with it. Like
Speaker 1: the easy thing, which was just to go in the
Speaker 1: room and say, okay, how do we use less earth poison? Yeah, ideas,
Speaker 1: go you what do you got? Okay, what about you?
Speaker 1: Instead these capital brain fucking dick Heads has only come
Speaker 1: up with a plan that's like requires spending money. And
Speaker 1: I get that you could invest in other technologies, but
Speaker 1: they literally went in there and they're like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: how are we gonna how are we going to tell
Speaker 1: an industry, hey, sorry, your product is rendering the planet unusable.
Speaker 1: We got to move on to something else. They couldn't
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, it just feels like anything that requires
Speaker 1: them to hold the thought in their mind that economic
Speaker 1: growth at all costs equals like not always good, like
Speaker 1: that any anything anything like that dies immediately, and so
Speaker 1: they have to you know, bend it around so that
Speaker 1: it it is like growth driven, so that it's like
Speaker 1: a fund that they can watch grow and used to
Speaker 1: like invest in nations, and you know that they like
Speaker 1: they just needed to be put on their terms. Of course,
Speaker 1: the problem with this idea is the one that we
Speaker 1: covered on Monday's episode. I guess it was yesterday's episode
Speaker 1: with effective altruism that the people who run these massive
Speaker 1: multibillion dollar funds will of course be finance people, and
Speaker 1: finance is inevitably tied into the world of US fuels
Speaker 1: and you know insidery, you know, business connections, and it's
Speaker 1: not going to run efficiently no matter what they say
Speaker 1: is going to happen in theory, I mean, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people were like, why don't you like cancel
Speaker 1: the massive debts you hold over these like developing nations
Speaker 1: that the Western world like uses as a control mechanism,
Speaker 1: Like that would be a first step if you're serious
Speaker 1: about alleviating like the pressures on a nation to be
Speaker 1: able to deal with the climate and help their own people,
Speaker 1: as to first be like, yeah, can you take that
Speaker 1: fucking boot off our neck of like these like loans
Speaker 1: that you walked us into too, just you know, begin
Speaker 1: to push further influence on like a nation's government. And
Speaker 1: like that was one thing. Like Lula from Brazil, he
Speaker 1: was out there being like, uh, what's up with all
Speaker 1: you countries talking about you were gonna give all this money?
Speaker 1: You didn't even come close. Like he was one of
Speaker 1: the few sort of like leaders who was like like
Speaker 1: scolding people while all of this was happening. But that
Speaker 1: was like that was one of like the the small
Speaker 1: bright spots throughout a whole thing which we've seen be
Speaker 1: described as just a trade show for fossil fuels. I
Speaker 1: know their links, but in some way it does seem
Speaker 1: like they didn't necessarily have to. Like both both boots
Speaker 1: fall at the same time. It's a super double double
Speaker 1: wayomy for earth and humanity that we're doing. Like that
Speaker 1: America at least is doing late stage capitalism and figuring
Speaker 1: that out. And the climate change stuff is the down
Speaker 1: slope is now and it's happening more and more because
Speaker 1: it feels like we, I mean, did oh our health
Speaker 1: care system. It's sort of the same problem with our outlooks.
Speaker 1: It's all triage. It's never preventable. It's still even if
Speaker 1: they did give the money or forgive the loans, it
Speaker 1: feels like your base assumption is still rather than oh
Speaker 1: my god, your nation got pounded by hurricanes or wildfires,
Speaker 1: How can we stop this from happening again in the future,
Speaker 1: it's we will give you money to rebuild every year.
Speaker 1: When that happens every year, that's not gonna work out.
Speaker 1: That's not tenable in the long term. O. What if
Speaker 1: we build a Tesla factory in our country? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: We like we bring more jobs. And it's like the hurricanes,
Speaker 1: the problems the hurricanes and the hurricane fuel. I guess
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna expect you to pay Painton back for
Speaker 1: building and the after metho of those hurricanes, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna go into more debt and then right, and that's
Speaker 1: the late stage capitalism thing is, of course, everything is
Speaker 1: tied to the actual mandate at least if you're a
Speaker 1: company with shareholders that you are legally have to always
Speaker 1: make profit, which is just like a fever dream. And
Speaker 1: we're trying to move I actually I believe that humanity
Speaker 1: has the capacity to move past both of those sticking points.
Speaker 1: But it's a tough call to try and work them
Speaker 1: both out at once. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because the one
Speaker 1: is just feeding the other one. And like you're saying,
Speaker 1: we're just at that point like this, it's this thing
Speaker 1: that you won't turn off. Yeah, just just fucking try
Speaker 1: and turn off a part of it for fox sake, please,
Speaker 1: And we know the consequences. Absolutely, We'll get so severe
Speaker 1: that it even starts to threaten the infrastructures that support
Speaker 1: the very powerful and wealthy. And I'm sure they'll respond
Speaker 1: at some point, but it's just a question of how
Speaker 1: much immeasurable damage will be done before they go all right,
Speaker 1: all right, you're right, it sank all my yachts um
Speaker 1: stocks down line go down. I guess we'll switch to
Speaker 1: alternate fuel sources now. And then it's like nine or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like what do you think the other sixty five
Speaker 1: people that are alive on earth? Damn nobody. Nobody even
Speaker 1: can cook our mules anymore. It's like the Cave and
Speaker 1: Doctor Strangelove, like at the end of that movie, I
Speaker 1: like they start talking all the people in the war
Speaker 1: room or like, well, unfortunately we have this cave where
Speaker 1: a small number of humans will go and like just procreating.
Speaker 1: I guess that's us. You know, doctor, what if you uh,
Speaker 1: you know how to handle life cut off from everything
Speaker 1: and then you're okay, go ahead. They but that seems
Speaker 1: to be the strategy. Like all all of the like
Speaker 1: one percent hyper wealthy are talking about New Zealand, and
Speaker 1: you know that that ethical or effective altruism just like
Speaker 1: they're they're focused on long term problems and don't focus
Speaker 1: on climate change at all, and their justification is well,
Speaker 1: New Zealand will probably survive. And it's just like way
Speaker 1: so with the were like the the the unspoken part
Speaker 1: of that is like with us there because we're rich
Speaker 1: and have the means, and it like even goes back
Speaker 1: to one of the first stories we covered on this
Speaker 1: podcast was like this new like trend in survivalism by
Speaker 1: like tech billionaires where they're all like getting la sick
Speaker 1: and like doing all these things in preparation for like
Speaker 1: everything crumbling like socially and civilizationally that they've just skipped
Speaker 1: past this too. Yeah, but we're going to be fine
Speaker 1: because we have billions of dollars, right, and then your
Speaker 1: money will be fucking useless in the apocalypse and then
Speaker 1: they're like, oh shit, man, they're gonna look like Billy
Speaker 1: Zane and Titanic when they're like here, good man, get
Speaker 1: me on one of these boats, and they're like, your
Speaker 1: money can't save you money. Yeah, it's it eventually does
Speaker 1: get to that point to where like money is even
Speaker 1: fucking useless even though you think you might be able
Speaker 1: to coerce somebody into helping you out in your rich
Speaker 1: guy in game. But I think I think, like I
Speaker 1: don't I don't underestimate how much they can fix the
Speaker 1: game to make it so that they're they can go
Speaker 1: a long long time. Yeah, I'm just imagining like new
Speaker 1: Zealand as like Curiscan. All the money flows there. It's
Speaker 1: all crypto, so it just exists in there anyway, Who cares.
Speaker 1: Everyone gets to work remote and everyone's fucking dead right right.
Speaker 1: That system will work for like twenty five years and
Speaker 1: then that will crumble. Yeah, but we'll all get to
Speaker 1: do that hobbit walking tour. It. That will be nice.
Speaker 1: That that will be cool. They will and that'll be
Speaker 1: nice for them, and they deserve well once a year
Speaker 1: we visit to bow to them. They need that validation
Speaker 1: to keep being job creators. Yeah, see how bad things
Speaker 1: have gotten for us. They only have one eye. Now
Speaker 1: we all have to go get in line and say
Speaker 1: one nice thing to Elon each through that good game,
Speaker 1: good game, sick hairline. My guy, you really are very funny,
Speaker 1: Mr Musque, that leader in meme technologies. Did you see
Speaker 1: that tweet from Jordan Peterson? No, what was it? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? It was literally Elon Musk tweeted. So somebody
Speaker 1: tweeted like a painting of a woman like showing her
Speaker 1: you know, vagina to us. Yeah, I've seen and it
Speaker 1: was like Twitter over the vagina and like Trump is
Speaker 1: the Saints like praying and it roaring it and Elon
Speaker 1: Musk reach to that picture and was like, lead us
Speaker 1: not into temptation, which is like, okay, I guess, like
Speaker 1: I guess. And Jordan Peterson responded to that and was like,
Speaker 1: you really are very funny, Mr Monk, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: the King of Kings. Like the response I saw that
Speaker 1: I thought was interesting with someone tweeting that they were
Speaker 1: on board the whole time. They loved the Trump's back,
Speaker 1: they love Musk, but you made light of a line
Speaker 1: from the Bible, and that's the line for me. I'm
Speaker 1: out that very specific. Hey, well it's knife's edge. You're
Speaker 1: on a knife all right, Let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back. And there was
Speaker 1: another match shooting over the weekend at a gay club
Speaker 1: in Colorado Springs. A twenty two year old man, grandson
Speaker 1: of a January six loving mega politician, opened fire and
Speaker 1: again the club, killing five injuring dozens more. The killer
Speaker 1: was subdued by two unarmed club patrons and held until
Speaker 1: the cops came. So, yeah, you know, it's it's like
Speaker 1: I think for most of us, it's clear like this
Speaker 1: violence is just coming on the heels of or not
Speaker 1: the heat. I mean, the the GOP is like on
Speaker 1: a constant dehumanization campaign against the LGBTQ community, and like
Speaker 1: you know, the mid terms as constant accusations of grooming
Speaker 1: or predators, like or painting supportive parents as child abusers.
Speaker 1: But of course, like the very people that have been
Speaker 1: using their platforms to you know, focus all of the
Speaker 1: hate towards this community are using all of their energy
Speaker 1: to act like they have like nothing to do with this.
Speaker 1: Matt Walsh, who like we talked about last week, lost
Speaker 1: it when he found out like the US men's national
Speaker 1: treat team would have like a rainbow like color spectrum
Speaker 1: in the World Cup crest. He said, quote leftists are
Speaker 1: using a mass shooting to try and blackmail us into
Speaker 1: accepting the castration and sexualization of children. These people are
Speaker 1: just beyond evil. I've never felt more motivated to oppose
Speaker 1: everything they stand for with every fiber of my being
Speaker 1: despicable scumbags. Candice Owens said something similar, where it's basically
Speaker 1: they're there's trying to say they're trying to use this
Speaker 1: mass shooting for us to be less hateful, essentially, but
Speaker 1: they're using these really they're but they're completely obscuring it
Speaker 1: by saying like they want us to accept child abuse
Speaker 1: because of the shootings. Essentially. Usually you'll also see like
Speaker 1: these arguments too from like the right that like it
Speaker 1: has to do with like woke district attorneys. But you know,
Speaker 1: the problem here, on top of the rampant homophobia on
Speaker 1: the right, is also that the cops aren't even enforcing
Speaker 1: the kinds of laws that could have potentially prevented this
Speaker 1: kind of tragedy. Yeah, this was like the the a
Speaker 1: town where they typically refused to confiscate guns, right the
Speaker 1: county El Paso County, they they they called themselves a
Speaker 1: Second Amendment sanctuary county, basically saying that, like, we believe
Speaker 1: in your right to bear arms, so if a red
Speaker 1: flag law quote infringes upon your inalienable rights, then they
Speaker 1: will take a pass. And you know, a year and
Speaker 1: a half ago, the shooter was like he he was
Speaker 1: like threatened his own mother with a homemade bomb, and
Speaker 1: the bomb squad came and that neighborhood had to be evacuated.
Speaker 1: And this guy's family and law enforcement didn't even seem
Speaker 1: to know or care about this trigger law and you know,
Speaker 1: which would have allowed the authorities to take his weapons
Speaker 1: and ammunition. And I mean it can be debated like
Speaker 1: how effective that would have been because the time in
Speaker 1: which those things can be confiscate skated can be ranged
Speaker 1: from like two weeks to six months. But it would
Speaker 1: have definitely alerted law enforcement to the fact they had
Speaker 1: a bomb making kidnapper that was armed and active in
Speaker 1: their community. And you like you put all these things together,
Speaker 1: the like the amount of just hateful rhetoric on the right,
Speaker 1: disinterested law enforcement that can't even like actually look out
Speaker 1: for the community, and you know, we're just seeing just
Speaker 1: this kind of terrible fucking tragedy occur in a way
Speaker 1: that honestly feels like you could have predicted it because
Speaker 1: of the amount of like just hate speech and like
Speaker 1: stochastic terrorism that's coming out of the right. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it's you know, they're going to a place that is,
Speaker 1: you know, a place that is supposed to be a
Speaker 1: safe space for you know, gay people to you know
Speaker 1: feel safe and be with one another and friends, and
Speaker 1: they're invading that and murdering a murdering everyone there. There's
Speaker 1: a really good thread from Dan Savage like kind of
Speaker 1: a called arms, but it's yeah, it is the natural
Speaker 1: you know what when we're seeing people talk about groomers
Speaker 1: and all all this ship, like this is the sort
Speaker 1: of thing that we said would would or could happen,
Speaker 1: and it's just a very natural, you know, consequence of
Speaker 1: that ship. The AP article about the shooting also mentioned
Speaker 1: that they had a mass shooting where three people were
Speaker 1: killed and eight wounded at a planned parenthood in Colorado
Speaker 1: Springs in and I had like totally forgotten about that,
Speaker 1: like there was a terror tech in the same town.
Speaker 1: Like it's just that's how common, Like there's such a
Speaker 1: fucking double standard between like right wing violence and like
Speaker 1: right wing terrorism and everything else. It's like that terrorism
Speaker 1: just gets ignored or like memory hold. Yeah, and it
Speaker 1: still all seems to come down or for me to
Speaker 1: start with some kind of radical wealth distribution or I
Speaker 1: hate to be like the marxistiannire, but disjoining from capitalism
Speaker 1: or the incentivized structure as it currently stands, only because
Speaker 1: now we exist in this like there's always been room
Speaker 1: for disagreement among humans, Lord knows, but it feels like
Speaker 1: we've now reached this place, as has been said many
Speaker 1: times before, where you can say it's so easy to
Speaker 1: shift the argument like wow, what a what a simple
Speaker 1: but effective slide of hand to go no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're I know. Our guy went murdered people. We're still
Speaker 1: good and they're still bad. Our team is still right
Speaker 1: because if he didn't murder people, that somehow would be
Speaker 1: endorsing grooming children. It's like, okay, so you can you
Speaker 1: can just attach a lie to a news story to
Speaker 1: completely rescope it or reframe it. Anyone can do this
Speaker 1: for any purpose, and it really only comes down to,
Speaker 1: in an almost an advertising sense of like repeated saturation,
Speaker 1: getting that message out to your base, finding the fragments
Speaker 1: of people in the world who tend to agree with
Speaker 1: your sentiment, collecting them all and telling them whatever you
Speaker 1: want to tell them until they go, I mean, they
Speaker 1: said it fifty times, it's got to be true until
Speaker 1: it becomes their worldview. And it seems to me the
Speaker 1: most potent tool for that is social media. And you're like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: how's that going. Who's in charge of that? Oh shit,
Speaker 1: the richest man on earth? Um so I really do
Speaker 1: think it all circles back to you. Gotta get you
Speaker 1: can't have richest man on Earth there you know a
Speaker 1: man tibillionaires would it boils down to. But I think
Speaker 1: it all sort of pyramids out from there. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: cannot overstate, of course, how much I agree and how
Speaker 1: tragic it is, which is sadly almost pointless to say.
Speaker 1: I just want to add to the audience that I
Speaker 1: was known in the cracked writer's room is something of
Speaker 1: a joke sniper, and we fully had the opportunity to
Speaker 1: riff on like Joe Rogan style Alpha males, but here
Speaker 1: we are instead. So thanks, Yeah, I mean, it's what's happening.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately I'm the real victim here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: want yeah, the I mean, just to your point about
Speaker 1: like capitalism and like the capitalist sort of logic at
Speaker 1: being at the core this. There's also this is a
Speaker 1: result of a massive industry that keeps on perpetuate, it
Speaker 1: keeps on selling guns, and that the government. It's it's
Speaker 1: probably the most the clearest way. Like climate, I guess
Speaker 1: is also pretty clear. But climate you also have like
Speaker 1: BP spending billions of dollars to be like we're actually
Speaker 1: the climate the climate change company that wants to be green.
Speaker 1: So like it's there's like confusing mixed messages but like
Speaker 1: gun control and the fact that gun sales keep going
Speaker 1: up and up and up, as it becomes clear and
Speaker 1: clear that we're the only country where this sort of
Speaker 1: ship happens on a regular basis, and like the simple
Speaker 1: solution is to get rid of the guns. Like it's
Speaker 1: just so clear cut, there's no running away from that.
Speaker 1: But they managed to just like kind of grit their
Speaker 1: teeth and right, like globally everyone's addicted to oil, right
Speaker 1: or some segment of the population. And but just to
Speaker 1: ask Australia, they're like, we had one of these, we
Speaker 1: took all the guns away. Might no more mass shootings? Yea,
Speaker 1: I switched to you what I'm saying, it's the world's
Speaker 1: cup right now. Yeah, it's confusing. But the other thing
Speaker 1: that I didn't realize a lot of people were pointing
Speaker 1: out was that that group focus on the family or
Speaker 1: whatever the funk it's called. Can't be good. Yeah let
Speaker 1: me make sure. Yeah, oh yeah, it is focused on
Speaker 1: the family. Like they are one of the like wild
Speaker 1: like they're just out here, you know, like one of
Speaker 1: like the like original anti l g L l g
Speaker 1: B t Q hate groups. That is that the umbrella
Speaker 1: blocking the rainbow. Is that them it might I have No,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not up on my home for semios
Speaker 1: these days. What a fresh new hate symbol. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but and like but I mean in that group is
Speaker 1: like you know, it's headquartered in Colorado Springs. You know,
Speaker 1: there's like it's just that that these all of these
Speaker 1: things come together. It's not just that like you can
Speaker 1: keep being like, oh, I wonder if these are connected.
Speaker 1: That this that for someone getting their news constantly and
Speaker 1: what they're the tone of that news is these people
Speaker 1: aren't human. They're actually dangerous and having like law enforcement
Speaker 1: that's like so n r A brained that they've bought
Speaker 1: the whole thing of like we're a sanctuary community for
Speaker 1: gun humping coming together and just creating more and more,
Speaker 1: you know, threat vectures for innocent people. It's just it's
Speaker 1: really hard to kind of watch. And yeah, I think
Speaker 1: to your point, Jack, there was that video of a
Speaker 1: guy talking about how he was at the club and
Speaker 1: how he he's really mourning for his community because this
Speaker 1: that was like the place where people in their community
Speaker 1: were able to congregate, and that's that's being just violently
Speaker 1: ripped away with attacks like this well, speaking of social media,
Speaker 1: Trump is back, has been invited back to Twitter sort of.
Speaker 1: He's probably going to come back, we don't know, but
Speaker 1: it was just interesting to like watch the mainstream media response.
Speaker 1: Like The Atlantic had an article that opened by saying
Speaker 1: that like Trump's back and a way that's far more
Speaker 1: important than him joining like running for president again, which
Speaker 1: I don't know. It definitely like him running for president
Speaker 1: definitely felt like inevitable. So maybe that announcement wasn't that surprising,
Speaker 1: but like far more important. See if it feels like
Speaker 1: a I don't know, like my my biggest concern here,
Speaker 1: you know, he will eventually start using this bullhorn again
Speaker 1: because I think he's incapable of doing that or incapable
Speaker 1: of not doing that. He'll probably like screencap truth social
Speaker 1: things and post them on Twitter or whatever, like to
Speaker 1: split the difference. But I think the biggest danger is
Speaker 1: that the mainstream media and journalists from places like I
Speaker 1: don't know, say The Atlantic, I'll decide to start treating
Speaker 1: his tweets with the seriousness of like presidential decrees again
Speaker 1: like they did before. It's they have to give what
Speaker 1: The New York posted to him that said Florida man
Speaker 1: makes announcement when he and I grant granted they're doing
Speaker 1: that for their own purposes, but like to get completely
Speaker 1: caught up again in his bullshit? Is I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. It doesn't seem like the media learns anything
Speaker 1: from like every weird blunder that's occurred from their analysis.
Speaker 1: So I have a feeling a lot of people are like, oh, good,
Speaker 1: now I can just talk, I can be on the
Speaker 1: you know, Trump Twitter beat. Yeah, it doesn't make any
Speaker 1: intellectually rigorous sort of sense that we would start paying
Speaker 1: attention now that he's on Twitter like they. I can't imagine,
Speaker 1: because like I think the argument would be, well, he
Speaker 1: has eighty eight million followers there, and that's like more dangerous.
Speaker 1: But like that that assumes there was somebody who's going
Speaker 1: to like see one of his tweets now and be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: where did that guy go? That Trump? Right, he used
Speaker 1: to tweet in my feed before and then he went away,
Speaker 1: and now he's back. All right, I'm gonna start listening
Speaker 1: to him again. Like it's it feels very much like it.
Speaker 1: The only real reason for it would be the perception
Speaker 1: of it being more official because it's Twitter and because
Speaker 1: that's where those journalists actually hang out, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I definitely could see it being more impactful and like
Speaker 1: a very bad thing. But I also I feel like
Speaker 1: the mainstream media needs to like kind of recognize their
Speaker 1: complicity in that and maybe not take it seriously, not
Speaker 1: suddenly assigned forty journalists to the Trump Twitter beat, Like
Speaker 1: once he starts tweeting again, yeah, he should wait a
Speaker 1: week and then just retweet the cafe tweet. What a
Speaker 1: time to read to play christ It feels like it's
Speaker 1: also part of dunk culture or like, you know, Twitter's
Speaker 1: the world's biggest writer's room. And I wonder how what
Speaker 1: percentage of his followers are following because it's great material,
Speaker 1: Like I know, you know, our pal Cody Johnston, I'm
Speaker 1: sure follows Trump and I'm sure doesn't like him, So
Speaker 1: there's a like we're all ingesting Trump tweets in order
Speaker 1: to I mean, how often are you alive during the
Speaker 1: time that there's a historically anomalous buffoon, possibly worst president
Speaker 1: in the history of your entire country and you're like,
Speaker 1: I'm alive now, and I am into satire, or even
Speaker 1: if you're just a person who ship posts or dunks
Speaker 1: on Twitter and goes viral constantly for it, You're gonna
Speaker 1: every It's funny because it's I can tie that right
Speaker 1: to the media, where it's like I know what I
Speaker 1: should do, I know what I should engage with and
Speaker 1: what I should just ignore. But I could get I
Speaker 1: could get a bumping ratings if I funk with this
Speaker 1: toxic guy. And we'll even do that for nothing for
Speaker 1: the number of our Twitter likes to go up. So
Speaker 1: of course media people will do it for job security
Speaker 1: for another couple of years. Like I wouldn't say no
Speaker 1: to that Twitter beat if I thought of myself as
Speaker 1: just I'm a cog in a giant machine. I gotta eat,
Speaker 1: I gotta work, I gotta live. I think, I think
Speaker 1: for like for if the media does, they're like, well,
Speaker 1: he has so many followers, Like well, they don't just
Speaker 1: breathlessly regurgitate what's being tweeted, like then fucking address what
Speaker 1: it is. Like if you're gonna learn anything, then report
Speaker 1: on it, and then dismantle whatever the argument or like
Speaker 1: bullshit is in these supposed tweets that are so important
Speaker 1: because most of the time it's like can you believe
Speaker 1: he said that? Right? And what what's what else is
Speaker 1: your commentary beside being a ghast, like are you going
Speaker 1: to inform people why what is said is so fucking
Speaker 1: off or not? But it's funny too because just like
Speaker 1: with all of this, there's still the potential for some
Speaker 1: investor to get fucked by Trump coming back to Twitter.
Speaker 1: Because we talked about how they're trying to sell truth
Speaker 1: social like take it public and be able to be like, hey,
Speaker 1: now you can you can buy stock in Truth. So
Speaker 1: like in this whole fucking you know, Trump Media and
Speaker 1: Technology Group, well the special purpose acquisition company that they
Speaker 1: were teaming up with, Like a lot of people are saying, like,
Speaker 1: if that deal goes through and then Trump goes to
Speaker 1: like his back on Twitter, like a lot of investors
Speaker 1: may feel duped because he said I'm never going back.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm on truth, baby, And then if he
Speaker 1: goes back, the people that invest might be like, hey, motherfucker,
Speaker 1: the whole appeal from Truth would say you were going
Speaker 1: on Twitter and then and then in the lawsuit that
Speaker 1: will be Ignoredabile probably ensue. But just like that, even
Speaker 1: amongst all that, there's still the potential for him to
Speaker 1: completely go back on his That's what does it. Always
Speaker 1: what he does. He sucks people over in the world
Speaker 1: of business and gets away with it, and usually the
Speaker 1: people who just helped him out just now such a
Speaker 1: quick He does not bide his time for years. He
Speaker 1: gets that shipping absolutely not. Also, just I've seen like
Speaker 1: some theories on like there's somebody on talked talking very
Speaker 1: seriously about how Elon Musk is actually breaking Twitter on
Speaker 1: purpose and like that this is all like part of
Speaker 1: some grand scheme, and like, did you guys see that
Speaker 1: Robert Iger like came back as the Disney ceo. Like
Speaker 1: I think these guys are all just addicts to like
Speaker 1: it's not very original to say fame as a drug,
Speaker 1: but like they are just addicts. And like he Robert
Speaker 1: Iger retired a year ago, like made it on methodone
Speaker 1: for a year of just like having the occasional like
Speaker 1: feature written about him, but like not really in the
Speaker 1: in the action in the spotlight, and then he was
Speaker 1: like not fucking like you know, basically killed his chosen
Speaker 1: successor to like and fired him to to take back
Speaker 1: the job he had just left. But yeah, like Elon
Speaker 1: Musk and Trump are just full blown addicts of that
Speaker 1: same drug and they're controlled by whatever is going to
Speaker 1: get them like the most of it, and they're just
Speaker 1: doing the most fame cocaine that any human has ever
Speaker 1: done and basically enabling each other it. I mean, but
Speaker 1: I do see like when I when I when I
Speaker 1: think about what the value utility is of Twitter being gone,
Speaker 1: it serves the status quo. Like, so that's why I
Speaker 1: think it's don't think it's intentional. I think I think
Speaker 1: it can and can't be. That's what sort of that's
Speaker 1: what makes it really insidious is on one hand, you
Speaker 1: can map all the like sort of billionaire egomaniac buffoon
Speaker 1: shipped onto it, and then there's also like it's smacks
Speaker 1: of like when those people like helped Kanye run for
Speaker 1: president in where it's like he might not know, but
Speaker 1: other people be like, yo, that's actually that's actually a
Speaker 1: good move, Like he might funk that up, but if
Speaker 1: that goes down, we can a get rid of a
Speaker 1: massive tool that's been you know, a thorn and a
Speaker 1: lot of sides of like very autocratic regimes, but also
Speaker 1: like break his hold on his company's too that other
Speaker 1: companies will be like, yeah, see if because if you
Speaker 1: fox all that money up, Like he might not be
Speaker 1: in control of Tesla as much as he'd like to
Speaker 1: be your SpaceX or these other things. But I think
Speaker 1: that's why it's so hard to really get a handle
Speaker 1: on it, because his actions absolutely like just reek of
Speaker 1: like just this guy's bumbling and his egos getting in
Speaker 1: the way. And it's like, ah, but the the like
Speaker 1: the side effect of that is like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure people are like, yeah, I wouldn't mind if Twitter
Speaker 1: was gone, right, Yeah, there's definitely probably people investors and
Speaker 1: people backing him. But I'm just if you want to
Speaker 1: know what Elon Musk or Trump or like some other narcissistic,
Speaker 1: egomaniacal billionaire is going to do, just like figure out
Speaker 1: what the thing is going is that is going to
Speaker 1: get them the most attention, like and that's almost always
Speaker 1: going to be the answer. And it feels like it
Speaker 1: seems to be theme that it's people who have internalized
Speaker 1: or that kid who grew up not under standing or
Speaker 1: somehow internalizing that it's fine good attention versus bad attention,
Speaker 1: Like bad attention is just as good. I got the
Speaker 1: attention because every time any one of note so because
Speaker 1: fame respects fame as well. If you're addicted to that drug,
Speaker 1: you imbue it with meaning. So the few times right
Speaker 1: Elon will respond, it's because like Stephen King dunked on
Speaker 1: him or someone notable dunked on him, and his response
Speaker 1: is always I don't care. We have record engagement. You're
Speaker 1: all looking at me like that's that's enough for this
Speaker 1: old bear. And it's like, you know, the Holocausts had
Speaker 1: record global engagement. That's not good. So their numbers were huge. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I do think Trump has the same thing where
Speaker 1: it's just get me, get me those numbers. I need
Speaker 1: those big numbers. Yeah, it's because it's weird that he
Speaker 1: even says it, like he's trying to prove that, like
Speaker 1: it's a healthy business by merely record. You sitge too.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, but how do you keep your like
Speaker 1: how are you paying with people to keep the website alive?
Speaker 1: Because everything you read is advertising. Advertisers are like no,
Speaker 1: thanks forever. Yeah. So then he's like, well, jokes on you,
Speaker 1: because even more people are posting racial slurs online than
Speaker 1: ever before, So is this working correctly? Alright, Like Michael mentioned,
Speaker 1: we're not going to get to the Macho camps because
Speaker 1: I still have like a couple of things I want
Speaker 1: to try out. So I'm still still doing my research
Speaker 1: and curl some dead lifts. You're gonna come back and
Speaker 1: be like, all right, I was wrong, I was wrong,
Speaker 1: rules I wasted. I made some friendships that are gonna
Speaker 1: stand at test the time. I know that now I
Speaker 1: can say that now. Michael as always such a pleasure
Speaker 1: having you. Where can people find you? Follow you all
Speaker 1: that good stuff? Absolutely, thanks so much my treat. I'll
Speaker 1: skip Twitter so people can find stay a rest of
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Speaker 1: That's where you can find everything we do occasional sketches.
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Speaker 1: Small Beans is amazing and Michael and a Sketches are
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Speaker 1: some of the work of social media you've been enjoying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll do a closing tweet. Last tweet ever that I'll
Speaker 1: ever like or see is the vibe on getting but
Speaker 1: a friend in real life who has almost no followers,
Speaker 1: but I think tweets funny stuff sometimes, So look out
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Speaker 1: tweets that I like because there's so much just nonsense,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I love the people that are just
Speaker 1: just being like, yeah, this ship is all fucked up,
Speaker 1: but don't knock me off my purpose, which is just
Speaker 1: to tell you some weird stuff I saw in real life.
Speaker 1: The first one is from Alex Murdock at Alex g.
Speaker 1: Murd tweeted, I'm at I'm a airport security and the
Speaker 1: guy in front of me just discovered his ticket, says JFK,
Speaker 1: and bless his heart because we're at La Guardia. That's
Speaker 1: that's like one of the Yeah, that's that's a hard
Speaker 1: one to I guess, except Laura Peak at Laura Peake
Speaker 1: Underscore tweeted on my flight today, I woke up from
Speaker 1: a nap in an attendant was walking down the aisle
Speaker 1: holding a pug, saying, we found this pug. Whose pug
Speaker 1: is this? And for three hours we all just took
Speaker 1: turns holding the mystery pug until a very stoned man
Speaker 1: in the last row woke up and was like, Roscoe,
Speaker 1: oh buddy. Two tweets have been enjoying. Will need Him tweeted.
Speaker 1: When I'm at a friend's house, I say, can you
Speaker 1: show me where you keep all the cards I've given you,
Speaker 1: and at Candy Flipping tweeted, there is no such thing
Speaker 1: as unlimited breadsticks. You will eventually die. That's that's a fact.
Speaker 1: The sun will envelope the Earth's that's right. Matt Novak
Speaker 1: also retweeted, like some of his favorite tweets of all time,
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Speaker 1: a song that we think you might enjoy Miles song.
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