Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty five,
Speaker 1: Episode two of Dirt Daily. Like Guys Day, production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, this is a podcast where we take
Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, November two,
Speaker 1: which of course means the last day of November. Right,
Speaker 1: there's days half November? Is that correct? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know that, like Ryan thing, I just kind
Speaker 1: of I'm always like vibing out which days have thirty
Speaker 1: and thirty one, and then I think the one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just vibe, but I'm like, I feel like this
Speaker 1: is one of those thirty months. Yeah. And also that's
Speaker 1: that's how you know I'm able to excuse my late
Speaker 1: payments on my bills. It was like, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: was vibing out the month. I didn't know it was
Speaker 1: the first two days ago. That's on me. But it's
Speaker 1: also stay home because you're well. Day on know what?
Speaker 1: That is? National Personal Space Day, National Moose Day as
Speaker 1: an m O U. S S. National Mississippi Day, National
Speaker 1: Mason Jar Day. Okay, shout out the hipsters remember that.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we still we still have some leftover, like
Speaker 1: most of our glasses in our house. We're still make
Speaker 1: some mason jars. It's one of those things you feel
Speaker 1: bad throwing away too. Yeah, it's all just left over
Speaker 1: from you know, our canning period when the peaches are right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just like ship that we bought that came in
Speaker 1: a mason jar, which was a lot of stuff for
Speaker 1: a long time, and free creak ups, even though you
Speaker 1: can recycle them. I just feel like, well, that's a jar,
Speaker 1: you know, that has use. But I have literally there's
Speaker 1: a whole shelf in my kitchen all because I remember
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the pandemic, like if you order
Speaker 1: alcohol sometimes like and that comes in a mason jar,
Speaker 1: and I have two of those from my very expensive
Speaker 1: pandemic drinking. And it's like you save your yogurt save
Speaker 1: tubs and they just become our tupper where we had
Speaker 1: a lot of yogurt tubs, while we have one Country
Speaker 1: Croc margarine tub there. You know, as someone, as any
Speaker 1: good American, will you must have your Country Croc tub A. No,
Speaker 1: not too many of yoker tubs. Now, Well, now that
Speaker 1: we've settled that, we also said before we started recording
Speaker 1: that the plural of computer mouses computer mice we correct
Speaker 1: us if we're wrong. This is just we've stopped googling
Speaker 1: things and we just like put it out on the
Speaker 1: podcast and the people. Well, after that sin Bad Thing,
Speaker 1: the sim Bad shows Am things, so many people were
Speaker 1: hitting us up on Twitter with like, it's actually this
Speaker 1: plus and Kell Yeah yeah all that sketch when he
Speaker 1: was on All that Plus at the CHRISTI Yamagucci man
Speaker 1: came through with like a whole he deemed me. I
Speaker 1: think he really wanted to make sure this this this
Speaker 1: was like below. It's just interesting that the math works
Speaker 1: across Well, we'll we'll get into it in a moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's get into it first. I have to introduce myself.
Speaker 1: My name is, of course Jack O'Brien, a k rise
Speaker 1: up this morning needing some hydration. Three mountain dudes sit
Speaker 1: on my desktop singing sweet songs of calories pure and true.
Speaker 1: Say yeah, this is my mountain of do oh. That
Speaker 1: is courtesy Christie. I'm a Gucci mane and I'm thrilled
Speaker 1: to be joined. As always buy my co host, Mr
Speaker 1: Miles Grab just goes out to everybody who was coping
Speaker 1: during your Thanksgiving dinner. Dad, I am the one racist
Speaker 1: as fuck Grandma stiff In for your trees eating up
Speaker 1: all the cheese dead. I am the sky, Christian Uncle Roy.
Speaker 1: While I slowly turned he quotes feed or certain dig
Speaker 1: through the kitchens and passed through funk friends off to
Speaker 1: the go rage for that coping blood. Okay, shout out
Speaker 1: to everybody who had to hit a coping blunt during Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: You know it happens, or exactly, Christian Uncle Roy. I
Speaker 1: to overtly Christian Uncle Roy or shout out to the
Speaker 1: one thing that everyone does where all the you know,
Speaker 1: the family members of a certain generation go take that
Speaker 1: walk to the store or park and then, you know,
Speaker 1: and then say leave your jacket here, man, you won't
Speaker 1: put that shirt on we get back, so it just
Speaker 1: covers it up anyway, Thank you too. I think that
Speaker 1: was LACARRONI shout out to LACARRONI shout out to my
Speaker 1: cousins who stopped inviting me on that after I got
Speaker 1: too high one time and just started spouting gibberish. Miles
Speaker 1: the man, he's freaking me out. I just like started
Speaker 1: speaking backwards for a little bit, like I I grayed
Speaker 1: out and then I started speaking backwards words and I
Speaker 1: was like that that didn't make sense hut, And everyone
Speaker 1: was like, uh, do we need to take him to
Speaker 1: the hospital. Anyways, we are thrilled to be joined in
Speaker 1: our third seat by an activist, advocate, and survivor who
Speaker 1: hosts the new podcast Survivor's Hell, which tackles the constructs
Speaker 1: that keep the cycles of violent spinning and our culture.
Speaker 1: It's Oh, yeah, l Charred, what's up? Hey, welcome? How
Speaker 1: are you? I'm good. How are you guys doing? Oh
Speaker 1: you're doing well doing. How's your Thanksgiving? I was good,
Speaker 1: it was good. I did um some home cooking, and
Speaker 1: then I went and spent all my appetite with family.
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. Yeah, I was just
Speaker 1: I was in the Bay Area, which was really nice.
Speaker 1: To keep the weather up there stays cool. I always
Speaker 1: like that about the Bay Area. Oh yeah, are you
Speaker 1: familiar with the Sinbad Kazam Shazam whole business? Yeah? It was.
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know. It all is a jumpl though.
Speaker 1: When I think about it, I'm like, is it Kazam
Speaker 1: or was it was? It was he Shazam? And then
Speaker 1: you gotta think like, okay, are we just in parallel
Speaker 1: universes or something. Yeah, it's like the Mandela effect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to right. We talked about it
Speaker 1: yesterday it is episode and a lot of listeners were like, actually,
Speaker 1: this has been solved, and they sent some sketches wherein
Speaker 1: Simbad had his arms crossed like I imagined on the
Speaker 1: VHS cover in my brain. They sent a still from
Speaker 1: a like yeah, a promo on a TV but like,
Speaker 1: none of these things that I've ever seen before. So
Speaker 1: it like even though it's been solved in the in
Speaker 1: the sense that we know where the different and then
Speaker 1: of course you have Kazam, so like we somehow pasted
Speaker 1: Simbad's face over Shack's face and then like photo shopped
Speaker 1: this new VHS cover. It's still so fascinating to me
Speaker 1: and like so mysterious to me the way that that
Speaker 1: worked just for everyone, like whether you saw that ship
Speaker 1: or not, Like somehow everybody else seeing that like put
Speaker 1: that into my brain in some way, and that's how
Speaker 1: it came to me. I don't know. I still don't
Speaker 1: know how it got in my brain, but it is.
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting it's from a parallel. It's the most
Speaker 1: powerful one though, because I think we all feel like
Speaker 1: we can figure out how we got there, but we
Speaker 1: can't find the threats. You know, Like even Christie, I'm
Speaker 1: a Gucci mane, He's like, Hey, this sketch from all
Speaker 1: that might be it, and then he's saying, but I
Speaker 1: can't find the unedited sketch. So like there's like these
Speaker 1: stills and you see these moments. But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. I think it's a
Speaker 1: combination of his clothing because he wore Genie pants anyway
Speaker 1: in the early nineties and late eight so I think
Speaker 1: there's but part of me feels like there's a smoking
Speaker 1: gun image. I feel that, like I'm really I feel
Speaker 1: like we're all conflating. But it's I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't. The Internet hasn't found it yet, and
Speaker 1: the internet is good at finding that ship. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: I don't know. It is the stated subject of this podcast,
Speaker 1: America Shared Consciousness, So we'll allow it. We will open
Speaker 1: the show talking about that, even though it has nothing
Speaker 1: to do with the news or pop culture of the day,
Speaker 1: and it's an old ask Mandela effect. It's the oldest
Speaker 1: everybody's covered it, and then everyone was like, Yo, this
Speaker 1: has been solved, but it's still very interesting to me,
Speaker 1: for the same reason that most of the stuff we
Speaker 1: talked about on this show is interesting. Why did all
Speaker 1: the NPR hosts end up talking like that, go ahead,
Speaker 1: oh you yeah? Because I just I have not seen
Speaker 1: anybody claiming to have solved that one. So I'm just
Speaker 1: late to the game, I guess, because I'm like, so
Speaker 1: are they saying that Shock is the one who played
Speaker 1: Shazam and Sha in the real movie? But people also
Speaker 1: felt that there was a sin Bad film called Shazam?
Speaker 1: There was? Was there not? There wasn't. That's the thing is,
Speaker 1: we're all wrestling with oia didn't happen, and we're just
Speaker 1: sifting of that memory. The man never played a genie
Speaker 1: in like anything, as far as we can tell. The
Speaker 1: closest we've got is that on a pro mo he
Speaker 1: had like a turban like you see in like stereotypical
Speaker 1: genie roles, and then he had something so like wardrobe
Speaker 1: similar and body postures similar to the way. I guess
Speaker 1: everyone imagines that in a sketch on a Nickelodeon show,
Speaker 1: And that's that's all we got. He never played a
Speaker 1: gene which is crazy. Yeah, that does not that does
Speaker 1: not seem to be congruent with my memory. I think
Speaker 1: we're I think we're just rejecting. Yeah, it's like we're
Speaker 1: rejecting mainstream cultures explanation of this. I feel like we
Speaker 1: need to be brave and endeavor and dig deeper to
Speaker 1: really find the origins of this, because I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Jack, I might have to take a sabbatical
Speaker 1: and just go through you know, Simba's entire IMDb and
Speaker 1: find every single instance this man has been in moving
Speaker 1: imagery and be like, I'm thoroughly I'm thoroughly convinced it's
Speaker 1: just some weird alchemy about the way a group of
Speaker 1: minds works together in like our world with like media
Speaker 1: that we just like don't understand yet. But I'm I'm
Speaker 1: just very interested in the phenomenon. So while Miles goes
Speaker 1: on his sabbatical for a couple of years to try
Speaker 1: and solve this, I'm going to be fielding. Tell me
Speaker 1: about your weird cultural memories. Is like gang that, like
Speaker 1: you absolutely know that you remember that actually didn't turn
Speaker 1: out to be true. Like I'm I'm interested in the
Speaker 1: one offs too, So al right, so that's the end
Speaker 1: of our show. We're gonna do today's episode, but then
Speaker 1: we're off for the next year while we try to
Speaker 1: figure this ship out. But oh yeah, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners what we're talking about today.
Speaker 1: In the final episode of The Daily Zeitgeist, we are
Speaker 1: talking about the Republican National Committee just trying to figure
Speaker 1: just trying to figure this dang thing out. What the that, hey,
Speaker 1: happened to that red wave. So we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: what what we're they're looking for answers and the answers
Speaker 1: they're likely to come up with. We might even talk
Speaker 1: about a couple of taste tests that we came across
Speaker 1: from the media. I came across the media. I don't
Speaker 1: want to love you into this stupid ship. So somebody
Speaker 1: talked about a ketchup taste tests, saying you might want
Speaker 1: to revisit the standard Hunts versus Hines taste tests. All
Speaker 1: of that plenty more. But first, oh yeah, we like
Speaker 1: to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Speaker 1: The people are not gonna like this. Um. I actually
Speaker 1: in my search history. Like at like three o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning, I was actually looking up our Zuli Red Eyes,
Speaker 1: which is apparently a Voodoo deity that is synchronized with
Speaker 1: like the Black Madonna, and she is like the patron
Speaker 1: saint of domestic violence victims, and she protects women and
Speaker 1: she protects children, um lesbians in particular. Interesting but yeah,
Speaker 1: and like but she's like supposed to be like like
Speaker 1: a very fierce spirit. And I was like looking that
Speaker 1: up though, because it was like connected to a dream
Speaker 1: I had. Nice. Yeah, Damn, we're dotting deep into the
Speaker 1: culture consciousness here. This is wait, so we're wait, tell
Speaker 1: me a little bit about these other like deities that
Speaker 1: exist outside of our like, you know, our guests mainstream cultures,
Speaker 1: like Judeo Christian idea of you know, patron saints and
Speaker 1: things like that. I just know Jesus Blue Eyes. That's
Speaker 1: all I got. Over tell me about those other idols. Well,
Speaker 1: And it's funny because it's like a lot of it
Speaker 1: stems from one cultural religion, which is Ifa that kind
Speaker 1: of followed the transatlantic slave trade, you know, through to
Speaker 1: all of the different stops, so the Caribbean, North America,
Speaker 1: South America. I went with us everywhere and it just
Speaker 1: got called a bunch of different things, like voodoo, voodoom
Speaker 1: sometimes ifa now um Santia condomblay in Brazil, it got
Speaker 1: called a lot of different things. But also the folks,
Speaker 1: the African folks, they like hid their their saviors or
Speaker 1: saints and Christian idols a lot of the times. And
Speaker 1: so like Ursuli red Eyes was like was synchronized like
Speaker 1: or when I'm saying synchronizes, like she was like hidden
Speaker 1: in with the like the Black Madonna in particular, so
Speaker 1: like that image of the Virgin Mary with child. But
Speaker 1: then you know she had her own her own history
Speaker 1: as well. But you know it's like a pantheon of
Speaker 1: different gods or deities or Ordisha's right and actually my
Speaker 1: name well yeah is a representative of one of them, right,
Speaker 1: and that is yeah. And it's kind of interesting just
Speaker 1: because there's like there there are many, but they're but
Speaker 1: they all kind of like go back to you know,
Speaker 1: this europa Nigerian religion. Yeah, because I also yeah, like
Speaker 1: I also know about it through like drum rhythms too,
Speaker 1: Like there are drum rhythms that correspond with them, like
Speaker 1: o'shoon or Ogon and things like that. But I was
Speaker 1: I've never really thought about the part of like using
Speaker 1: the accepted Christian forms as like vessels for it to
Speaker 1: be able to still kind of, you know, practice religion
Speaker 1: without you know, people being like, wait, what's that. Okay,
Speaker 1: they're using the they're using our our icons for the moment,
Speaker 1: So that's really interesting. Yeah, Like even I read like
Speaker 1: our Zuli red Eyes was like synchronized with Santa Barbara
Speaker 1: as well at some point, and I don't know it was,
Speaker 1: It's just I found it very interesting because it's like
Speaker 1: all of these ways that we had to like hide
Speaker 1: our culture under, you know, underneath the oppression. In particular,
Speaker 1: this spirit is supposed to be like really like hard
Speaker 1: and dark and even like to a certain extent, violent
Speaker 1: and vengeful because she was like summoned during these like
Speaker 1: really dark hard times, like during slavery and particularly she
Speaker 1: comes from a region of hating where there's like a story,
Speaker 1: like her origin story is that she was like betrayed.
Speaker 1: She was betrayed by her folks. Even though she was
Speaker 1: like fighting for her people, she was betrayed by them.
Speaker 1: Like they didn't they wanted to make sure like their
Speaker 1: secrets were kept, so they removed her tongue, you know,
Speaker 1: and supposedly, right, A lot of a lot of this
Speaker 1: that I think that the things that make it's so
Speaker 1: mysterious is that a lot of this is like oral tradition. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, but like, yeah, I don't know, that's so interesting.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm sorry, I'm getting all deep into No,
Speaker 1: it's fascinating. If people want to look it up, that's
Speaker 1: e r z U l I red eyes. Yeah, most
Speaker 1: people are like, yeah, I looked up how good is
Speaker 1: cabbage in your refrigerator? So I appreciate going around, Well
Speaker 1: this is this could be an entire episode and it
Speaker 1: would be a really good at that's super fascinating. And
Speaker 1: it also kind of ties back to the shared cultural
Speaker 1: thing with regards to like you were mentioning it kind
Speaker 1: of staying with people across like different cultures, and like
Speaker 1: sometimes these figures even recur into or like occur independently
Speaker 1: of one another, and you know, it's it's just something
Speaker 1: symbolically that we we don't know if they were like
Speaker 1: influ winst or how the how the like what the
Speaker 1: exact lineage is, right, but it props up and there's
Speaker 1: just something powerful about the image or the icon that
Speaker 1: just makes it appear in people's brains, you know, super interesting.
Speaker 1: All right, You've got a lot to live up to
Speaker 1: after that search history. What something you think is overrated?
Speaker 1: Oh man, I think online shopping is over overrated cyber Monday. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's just because I feel like it curbs impulse buying,
Speaker 1: Like why like why would we want to curb that.
Speaker 1: That's like the stuff that the retail therapy dopamine is
Speaker 1: made of. Like, and you can get like extra like
Speaker 1: extra gifts for people that you that were actually intended
Speaker 1: for you, but then you realize you didn't need. Like
Speaker 1: if you're actually in person, you can just like impulse by,
Speaker 1: but when you're online, you're like, oh, I can second
Speaker 1: guess that. I can just put that in the car
Speaker 1: and I can just leave that tab opened for I
Speaker 1: call that spiritual lay away because you're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm a I like the idea of me buying this,
Speaker 1: so I'll go as far to put it in my
Speaker 1: cart and ship. I might hit check out, but don't
Speaker 1: ask me for those credit card details just yet. I'm
Speaker 1: not there yet. And I totally go what you mean
Speaker 1: because I like, when I look at stuff online, I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that'd be cool, and like to your point, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't really need all this ship,
Speaker 1: like whereas in person, I remember when they used to
Speaker 1: have Fries electronics. It's like electronics store there used to
Speaker 1: be the line to the checkout stand was a gauntlet
Speaker 1: of impulse by ship. They're like, try and get through
Speaker 1: this line without picking up a loose stick of gum
Speaker 1: or a DVD or some ship or a spindle of
Speaker 1: rewritable CDs because they got me every time. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: to your point, I'm like, there is. There's a power
Speaker 1: of physical space shopping. There is. There is. And then
Speaker 1: not to mention, it's like the person at the checkout line,
Speaker 1: you know, they're they can actually convince you to buy
Speaker 1: even more. But it's a good thing in this season,
Speaker 1: you know, because then you always have actra ship to like,
Speaker 1: you know, wrop up and it helps the economy, which
Speaker 1: is the thing that controls my mood, you know, whether
Speaker 1: the stock markets up or not. So that as long
Speaker 1: as you're helping the economy, doing my part going out
Speaker 1: into chain chain and box stores and just you know,
Speaker 1: helping America go to small businesses. Oh damn, but they're
Speaker 1: not on the stock market. And that's the only thing
Speaker 1: that I care about. Just make sure the line go
Speaker 1: up the walk in there. Hold on, Hold is this
Speaker 1: gift shot publicly traded? I'm off this. Oh, can I
Speaker 1: tell you something. There's a moment in a different world
Speaker 1: where someone says they say, I want somebody who loves
Speaker 1: Shazam in an episode five or season five, episode thirteen.
Speaker 1: The name the words Shazam are uttered. I'm just going
Speaker 1: to play this really quick, because look, I don't care
Speaker 1: what this answer say. We have to get to the
Speaker 1: bottom of this. She said she wants I think somebody
Speaker 1: took her diary. Hold on, where is it someone who
Speaker 1: loves Chazam? Yourself? And then Jasmine guy's going off anyway,
Speaker 1: just saying found a moment where Shazam was invoked on
Speaker 1: a show where Simbad was on a different world. What see,
Speaker 1: that's just but the but the false memory is Simbad
Speaker 1: was Shazam when really Shaquille O'Neil was Kazam. And that
Speaker 1: is the movie. That's what I'm just saying. What are
Speaker 1: they talking about in the in the show when they
Speaker 1: say I want somebody who loves Shazam. Are they getting
Speaker 1: the name of Kazam? Room No. I think someone stole
Speaker 1: her diary and they were going through like like she
Speaker 1: was like, oh I wish I could find a guy
Speaker 1: who likes this, and she was saying it was just
Speaker 1: like a throwaway line, but the words Shazam are jump
Speaker 1: saying just very narrowly saying Shazam was said on a
Speaker 1: different world. There's everywhere was definitely Shazam. And I think
Speaker 1: and I think that maybe they like they scrubbed the
Speaker 1: movie because it was so bad, but totally remember watching
Speaker 1: can you imagine how bad that movie would have to be.
Speaker 1: That they have like kept this conspiracy up like it's
Speaker 1: it's even more comprehensive than like the jfk assassination. They
Speaker 1: just covered it up so deeply and like they have
Speaker 1: an entire wing at the Pentagon, like full of C
Speaker 1: I A and N s A agents just scrubbing the
Speaker 1: internet every time somebody like mentions or like post some
Speaker 1: piece of definitive evidence of it, like they just on them.
Speaker 1: They just disappear that person. Oh no, yeah, I don't know. Look,
Speaker 1: I like the idea better that Shazam was a film
Speaker 1: is just so bad we can't nobody could watch it.
Speaker 1: I'm more invested in that, thank you, Oya, because I
Speaker 1: needed that. Now Now I'm like they were going to
Speaker 1: get contacted by some shadowy figures like you don't wanna.
Speaker 1: You don't want to see this movie. You don't want to.
Speaker 1: I would stop digging if I were you. You don't
Speaker 1: want to see where this threat ends. It ends in
Speaker 1: the movie Shazam, which is really bad. I know your
Speaker 1: internet was getting on chopping and was the one who
Speaker 1: mentioned it. Yeah, okay, just mind. I mean, we love
Speaker 1: Kazam starring Shock from the only Azam movie until the
Speaker 1: DC one recently, Yes, exactly, I know, not have sin Bad?
Speaker 1: Who is in Bad? Oh the Sailor? Of course? Of course,
Speaker 1: of course. Oh yeah. What is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 1: We got too close to the truth, folks. We gotta
Speaker 1: we gotta move on here. I heard it here anyways,
Speaker 1: dream interpretation. I think dream interpretation is underrated. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I I agree with you. I think dreaming the fact
Speaker 1: that we dream in visual metaphors, like that we have
Speaker 1: movies happen inside our brains when we sleep at night.
Speaker 1: That like when you look at them, are like really adept,
Speaker 1: like metaphors for like thoughts were having and and like
Speaker 1: visual expressions, like artistically designed visual expressions of things that
Speaker 1: are happening in our lives. Like there's just some great artist.
Speaker 1: And like James Cameron just mentioned this. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't need a streaming service. They can't beat the
Speaker 1: ship that I got going inside my brain every night.
Speaker 1: I got the tops, I got the top streaming service.
Speaker 1: But yeah, like when you take time to look at
Speaker 1: your dreams and like that's what you need to actually
Speaker 1: like have a dream journal and look at them and
Speaker 1: take them seriously. But when you do that, you start
Speaker 1: to see that there's all this detail there that is
Speaker 1: like very meaningful and like your brain is creating art
Speaker 1: for you to look at and understand. And I think
Speaker 1: sometimes we're like dismissed up. We're like, yeah, what like
Speaker 1: your teeth fall out and you have a stress dream.
Speaker 1: But there's also just like so many scinating things in there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't even think because I I typically only remembered
Speaker 1: like when when you know people as talk about your
Speaker 1: dream interpretation or whatever, I'm always thinking of like just
Speaker 1: very specific things that are like on that listerally like
Speaker 1: when your teeth come out, it's just this, that or that,
Speaker 1: And I'm like the ones I always remember, like my
Speaker 1: punches be moving too slow. I'm like, man, I'm about
Speaker 1: the duff this person out and I'm like what, it's
Speaker 1: not moving quick enough. Those are frustrating. But then to
Speaker 1: your point, I'm like, I never write down the ones,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, that was a trip, you know, I
Speaker 1: was kicking it with this person like I haven't seen
Speaker 1: since third grade? Yeah, and like what the funk was that?
Speaker 1: Like you, where did that come from? And I don't
Speaker 1: do you do you actually write down? You? Do you
Speaker 1: dream journal? Jack? Because you were talking like you I
Speaker 1: have in the past and I don't. I don't currently,
Speaker 1: but I'm it's something that I like do every once
Speaker 1: in a while. And the dreaming when I was doing
Speaker 1: it was like much more vivid, and I think it
Speaker 1: just like sticks more because you get in the habit.
Speaker 1: But how about you, Yeah, I I did dream journal previously,
Speaker 1: but I did I did have to stop as well,
Speaker 1: because I do think that it kind of gets you
Speaker 1: a lot more into those kind of lucid dreams and
Speaker 1: like your dreams just get way more intense for some
Speaker 1: reason when you're paying that not much attention to it
Speaker 1: and you're waking times. And but sometimes I just like
Speaker 1: write down like little pieces that I remember, Like actually,
Speaker 1: that's how I found Zuli red Eyes because I just
Speaker 1: googled an image that I saw in my dream, which
Speaker 1: was a woman with red eyes, and that's who came up. Wow.
Speaker 1: So did were you familiar with Resuli red Eye before
Speaker 1: red Eyes before you like had that dream? No? Not really? Wow? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Powerful the unconscious mind more more powerful than anything we
Speaker 1: know about, like anything signs was created. I feel, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I almost started dream journaling because man, this
Speaker 1: assistant sounds so stupid. But when Inception came out, people
Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, man, you should think about lucid dreaming
Speaker 1: because that's where that's like, that's where it's at. And
Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit, right, And I was like,
Speaker 1: as I you know, it looked into that more a lot.
Speaker 1: Like one of the steps is to start dream journaling
Speaker 1: because you want to you want to put yourself in
Speaker 1: that cycle of being bringing consciousness to your dreams or
Speaker 1: at least being able to, like immediately after you sleep,
Speaker 1: just writing it down because that's how you're going to
Speaker 1: be able to lucid dream more. But I just got.
Speaker 1: I just forgot, and I got lazy, and I was like,
Speaker 1: there's not a there's not an eyemask you could wear
Speaker 1: for that or something. Yeah I could. I could say
Speaker 1: that I stopped to dream journaling because it was too powerful,
Speaker 1: and I did. The world wasn't ready for what I
Speaker 1: was discovering in there. But it was just laziness. It
Speaker 1: was just like that started being like, now I don't
Speaker 1: I don't want to put us I don't want to
Speaker 1: put us all at risk. But Jack and Oya, have
Speaker 1: y'all ever had a dream where you're at a movie
Speaker 1: theater and you look on screen and there's a genie
Speaker 1: coming out of the mile stop and he's like light
Speaker 1: skin brother named Simbad and the movie was called Sam.
Speaker 1: Do you remember this? I think we all had that dream?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Okay, I'm just or was it a dream?
Speaker 1: And that's why that challenge us all to say, was
Speaker 1: that a dream? Or was that real? Do you ever
Speaker 1: have the one where you can't run because like there's
Speaker 1: no gravity, like you can't get any purchase on the ground,
Speaker 1: like no traction? Yeah, no, traction and so you're running,
Speaker 1: but like your feet are just like floating like you
Speaker 1: in off the Yeah, it's like that. That's that's my
Speaker 1: version of the slow punches. But yeah, whenever I'm trying to,
Speaker 1: you know, do anything physical, I'm suddenly in water. Like
Speaker 1: my my motion feels like very restraint and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna dig deeper into that has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: the fact that I didn't get on the high school
Speaker 1: basketball team and nothing. Just go on, Jack, I mean,
Speaker 1: let's why am I on trial right now? Oh? Yeah? What?
Speaker 1: What's some other stuff that you've found through like dream interpretation?
Speaker 1: Like Young has a whole philosophy on this. He has
Speaker 1: the big Red book that has like focuses on all
Speaker 1: these different icons of like shared dreams, and Young is
Speaker 1: very into the shared consciousness. But what what what jumps
Speaker 1: out to you when you think about like dream interpretation, Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I think that it's so funny because
Speaker 1: it's one of those things that like get put into
Speaker 1: like like the the magic witchcraft kind of category, even
Speaker 1: though in Judaeo Christian texts they talk about you know,
Speaker 1: different saints going to get their dreams to interpret it,
Speaker 1: you know, or or even the religious figures having the
Speaker 1: power to interpret dreams, you know. And so I just
Speaker 1: think that, you know, if we were less afraid of it,
Speaker 1: you know, like um so of the some of the
Speaker 1: knowledge and just emotional maturity that we can probably access
Speaker 1: by examining what is like in our subconscious unconscious mind,
Speaker 1: I think it would it would be pretty culture changing.
Speaker 1: That's just me though. I mean, like I have to
Speaker 1: the ideas there, like and then he had a dream
Speaker 1: of a ladder and that's how he figured out that,
Speaker 1: like he was going to move his family to a
Speaker 1: different town, and like, yeah, they're they were very serious
Speaker 1: about their dreams in the Bible. But even like inventors
Speaker 1: and stuff, right, like a lot of like inventors, like
Speaker 1: in people who have discovered like new technologies and you know,
Speaker 1: are like that a lot of them that started with
Speaker 1: a dream. So I don't know, I just think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's one. I think it's the Mobia strip, but I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. But there's one scientific discovery or maybe
Speaker 1: it was the aura borus. It was like one scientist
Speaker 1: was like trying to figure out this thing for a
Speaker 1: long time and it was like super important and it
Speaker 1: took him like he was thinking about it for months
Speaker 1: and then he had a dream of a snake eating
Speaker 1: its tail and that's how the idea for like what
Speaker 1: the structure of the thing was. That people are probably
Speaker 1: the people who know the story are probably screaming. So
Speaker 1: super producer Justin is saying, the double helix, the double
Speaker 1: helix they actually thought of on LSD while experimenting with LSD,
Speaker 1: so which is another like way of getting at that
Speaker 1: unconscious part of the mind. But like the shape actually
Speaker 1: came to came to them. Well all right, because it
Speaker 1: seems like those those realizations come because you're operating in
Speaker 1: a state of consciousness that isn't like bound to the
Speaker 1: physical world. So because of that, possibilities are infinite, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think that's man, Okay, maybe I'll start dream generally. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what the fun is up? And I think the first
Speaker 1: thirty minutes of every episode should be us just talking
Speaker 1: talking about our dreams from now and I think people
Speaker 1: would be into that. Yeah, oh man, you should have
Speaker 1: seen it. Man, Lebron James actually hitting some of these dreams.
Speaker 1: I'm happing. Alright, let's take a quick break, we'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll catch up on some news and we're back, and
Speaker 1: they're actually a bunch of just going going back to
Speaker 1: the thing we were talking about, there's a bunch of
Speaker 1: examples of scientific discoveries that happened in dreams. Dmitri metal
Speaker 1: Leev was trying to figure out a logical way to
Speaker 1: organize the chemical elements, and he had a dream and
Speaker 1: the periodic table just like fell on a table in
Speaker 1: front of him, and that's how he came up with
Speaker 1: a periodic table. Well, August was working on how worrying
Speaker 1: about how the atoms and benzene were arranged, and he
Speaker 1: fell asleep and began dreaming of Adams dancing. Gradually, the
Speaker 1: atoms arranged themselves into the shape of a snake. Then
Speaker 1: the snake turned around and did its own tail, and
Speaker 1: that's how he figured out that it was like made
Speaker 1: up of rings of carbon atoms. Which it's yes wild,
Speaker 1: It's like your brain has access to this creative power
Speaker 1: that we just like, don't you know, we we just
Speaker 1: don't give a credit for or we just don't even
Speaker 1: watch really pay to pay that much attention to it. Right,
Speaker 1: And I think it's chemically induced. I mean I don't
Speaker 1: like there's there's some magic to that, right, just as
Speaker 1: much as there's magic chemistry, right, but there I really
Speaker 1: do think it's like like the ellis the natural LSD
Speaker 1: that's in our brains, like you know, that's influenced by
Speaker 1: like the I don't even know, Maybe this is totally
Speaker 1: unscientific in but it's like there's like maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: gamma raised or some ship I don't know that they
Speaker 1: used to call it the ether, like, but there's like
Speaker 1: some universal energy that I feel like we're all kind
Speaker 1: of influenced by and like chemically though, and that's what
Speaker 1: we're tapping into. Yeah, I mean a lot of the
Speaker 1: drugs that we do, or like the altered states come
Speaker 1: from chemicals that are inside our mind, right, Like we
Speaker 1: the pills are the things that we take give the
Speaker 1: brain permission or like directions to produce it. But like
Speaker 1: that is stuff that's already in there. And yeah, just
Speaker 1: to like the overall like cultural picture, I feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, we we've gone down this path of science
Speaker 1: for so long that we now just assume everything has
Speaker 1: a rational, scientific, analytical, you know, reason based explanation, and
Speaker 1: that has caused us culturally to you know, shut off
Speaker 1: an entire very important part of like sort of the
Speaker 1: the mystery side of like human experience and the you know,
Speaker 1: human power. So yeah, I don't know. This is my
Speaker 1: favorite episode mysteries we've ever done. I just it's wild
Speaker 1: to think that, like the drug war is literally holding
Speaker 1: us back from being like, yeah, man, the secret was
Speaker 1: in uh psychedelics the whole time, the whole time, the
Speaker 1: whole time. It was that actually, right, the secret to
Speaker 1: world peace. Yeah, because everybody like let their egos dissolve,
Speaker 1: they saw the interconnectedness of our situation and realize, oh,
Speaker 1: we need to take up for each other. That's wow,
Speaker 1: right there, I solved it. Oh my gosh, I knew
Speaker 1: everything was going to be solved on TBC. I think
Speaker 1: I dropped it. Actually, we even need to talk about
Speaker 1: Republicans now. I feel like, let's talk about Shazam because
Speaker 1: we're making that movie. I don't give a funk. Like
Speaker 1: I said, we have to deep fake it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: deep fake it. I think somebody already deep faked. I
Speaker 1: think Funny or Die or like, yeah, I think College
Speaker 1: Humor did one. But wasn't it with him in it? Though? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It was? No. No, I'm going We're going back I'm
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna make it look like it was made
Speaker 1: in ninety two. Like that's the kind that's the level
Speaker 1: of authenticity we're gonna pursue. Or we will look in
Speaker 1: every you know, municipal dump and try and excavate a
Speaker 1: loose VHS tape of the real because I am now
Speaker 1: chasm truther. Alright, So I mean people struggling to come
Speaker 1: up with a solution to something, some people who might
Speaker 1: want to look in their dreams. The Republican National Committee
Speaker 1: imagine it isn't a bit of a tough spot. They
Speaker 1: can't they can't get their mind around this ship. I'm
Speaker 1: just like, what, but what happened? They blew it all on.
Speaker 1: They said, the red wave that's coming, y'all empty your pockets.
Speaker 1: Now we got this. We're gonna put the finishing touches
Speaker 1: on curb stomping democracy. Y'all just give us your money
Speaker 1: and we will deliver. Then they only like eked out
Speaker 1: the House by a couple of seats. Uh, The Senate
Speaker 1: did not go. There was nothing like a wave and
Speaker 1: all that anger. Now they're trying to figure out what
Speaker 1: to do in the confusion, right, and all this disappointment
Speaker 1: has led to all kinds of chaos, But the biggest
Speaker 1: question that lingers is how the heck did we lose? So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's the kind of rage that
Speaker 1: has even inspired as of now, the my pillow guy,
Speaker 1: Mike Lindell, he's saying, you know what, I should be
Speaker 1: running for the head of the r n C. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna play that for you real quick, because he's very
Speaker 1: confident about his ability to unseat Rona McDaniel. I am
Speaker 1: one running for the RNC chairman against Rona McDaniel. I'm
Speaker 1: all in Steve, and uh. One of the things that
Speaker 1: one of the big donors said to me, he said, Mike,
Speaker 1: he said, everybody wants you to be head of the RNC.
Speaker 1: Some of them just don't know it yet. Yeah, none
Speaker 1: of that is true. I'm sure. I'm sure that's how
Speaker 1: all these grifters talked. They were like, yo, man, I
Speaker 1: will on a plane and this soldier came up to me.
Speaker 1: He had just been shot through his chest in Iraq,
Speaker 1: but he came up to me despite his injuries. He
Speaker 1: walked all the way to tell me, thank you for
Speaker 1: what I am doing, and then he patched away in
Speaker 1: the aisle and became an angel and flew off. And
Speaker 1: I remember he did tell me this because it did happen,
Speaker 1: Like they always have stories like this about someone I
Speaker 1: won't name. Big up me. Uh, And that's why my
Speaker 1: ego is just going wild. Steve job right before he died,
Speaker 1: call me and tell me to be president. It was
Speaker 1: in a dream. Was in a dream, Steve. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: Steve Bannon, it was in a dream. And those have meanings,
Speaker 1: so you know. Right now, I think to to figure
Speaker 1: all of that out, Like, why is why did the
Speaker 1: RNC lose so bad? How is it that racism, misogyny,
Speaker 1: and homophobia could be so unpopular with normal people? How
Speaker 1: is this possible? The RNC must have been thinking of themselves. Well,
Speaker 1: now they're putting together a very serious group of the
Speaker 1: most out of touch people to assess what went wrong
Speaker 1: well with the mid term strategy. Their RNC chair, current
Speaker 1: chair Rona McDaniel told this said this quote. As we
Speaker 1: assess the mid terms and planning for four we are
Speaker 1: gathering a diverse range of respected leaders in our movement
Speaker 1: to join together and help chart a winning course in
Speaker 1: the years to come. I am thrilled that this talented
Speaker 1: group of Republicans will be uh will be shoulder to
Speaker 1: shoulder with us as we work to grow our party,
Speaker 1: hold Democrats accountable and whatever, Republicans something something. So all
Speaker 1: that to say is they've put together just this the
Speaker 1: Avengers of of Republican operatives. So that means Kelly Anne Conaway,
Speaker 1: former White House advisor, evangelical leader Tony Perkins, a black
Speaker 1: guy who's a Republican who's just happens to be in office.
Speaker 1: So they're like, oh, yeah, you get him to get
Speaker 1: some of these other uh like any like Latin X
Speaker 1: people we have from like Texas, get a couple of them,
Speaker 1: and let's get Blake Masters, who absolutely has no business
Speaker 1: only anybody. What went wrong in when he is what
Speaker 1: went wrong in Peter Teal's like dedicated lackey, right, he
Speaker 1: was just like a Peter Teal acolyte who Peter Tell
Speaker 1: was like, well, I have so much power, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna run this guy who does everything I say, including
Speaker 1: function as a human blood bag for me. And he
Speaker 1: was just the most unlikable candidate that's ever been run.
Speaker 1: And he lost a super winnable seat in Arizona. Like
Speaker 1: that seems to be the one thing that everybody agrees
Speaker 1: on is that this guy's a fucking, you know, political toxin.
Speaker 1: And but I love, I love to see them not
Speaker 1: learning from their mistakes, you know. I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: like they're like, man, how did this happen? Get the
Speaker 1: people responsible for this happening in here to figure out
Speaker 1: what they did wrong? Like they that's whatever. Shout out
Speaker 1: to y'all for being rigid. Like most like of party
Speaker 1: leaders on in both parties were just like, no, we
Speaker 1: know we're doing We're a d okay, please get out
Speaker 1: of our way and right now as it stands, others
Speaker 1: have been sniffing around. But like Lee Zelden, who ran
Speaker 1: for governor in New York, he was like, maybe I'm, oh,
Speaker 1: you know what, I might actually run to be the
Speaker 1: chair of the r n C. But he I think
Speaker 1: he got the message nobody wanted him, so he faded
Speaker 1: to the background. Which makes sense because a hundred out
Speaker 1: of the hundred sixty eight voting members that decide who
Speaker 1: was going to run the d n C have already
Speaker 1: said they want Romney's niece to continue doing a bad job,
Speaker 1: So it looks like she is safe for now. She
Speaker 1: used to be Ronna Romney McDaniel, and then she I
Speaker 1: think she was like, oh, the nepotism stuff kind of
Speaker 1: getting in the way. We should be Ronna McDaniel, Like
Speaker 1: you want to be round Ronna Romney McDaniel on your
Speaker 1: way to somewhere and then get that nepotism name out
Speaker 1: of the way. But meanwhile on Fox, they are continuing
Speaker 1: to lay the blame at the feet of of women
Speaker 1: that won't get on board with chauvinist ideologies because Jesse
Speaker 1: Waters he said he's offering an olive branch to women
Speaker 1: to help move forward, because maybe that's that's what it was. Uh,
Speaker 1: here's here's him with his take on what went absolutely wrong.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. This is him trying to figure out what's
Speaker 1: going on. He's about to ask a woman for his
Speaker 1: hand so he can be hand in hand with a
Speaker 1: woman as he exists, literal olive branch, and everyone's rolling
Speaker 1: their eyes in the studio. My hand. Women need men
Speaker 1: and men need women. We need each other. And if
Speaker 1: you understand nature, you understand there is not a war
Speaker 1: between the sexes. We need to make love, not war.
Speaker 1: And you need to stop tropping your hair off and
Speaker 1: calling us toxic. We are on a mission. Yes we peacock,
Speaker 1: but we peacock for your attention. So fall in love
Speaker 1: and let's all live happily ever after. Okay, so that's
Speaker 1: kind of ship going on. First of all, for people
Speaker 1: who have been't like a, aren't watching this, he makes
Speaker 1: his coworker hold his hand well, instructing all women to
Speaker 1: make love to men. Yeah, there was nothing. There was
Speaker 1: nothing olive Branch about it, which was basically been like
Speaker 1: quick cutting your hair and saying we're toxic. Like that
Speaker 1: was really the distillation of what he said. And but
Speaker 1: that's that's about the most critical thought. I think they're
Speaker 1: willing to give their own platform. I hate to be
Speaker 1: a Debbie Downer, but I was just discussing with some
Speaker 1: some high school students. They already fucking know, they know
Speaker 1: as young ladies that every eleven minutes in this country,
Speaker 1: another woman is murdered by like their intimate partner. So
Speaker 1: it's so it's so cool and great, you know, for
Speaker 1: people just to be like, oh, yeah, we can just
Speaker 1: you know, join hands and live happily ever after without
Speaker 1: actually you know, being aware of the conditions that like
Speaker 1: we're really living under and then and then I think
Speaker 1: what's crazy is that that statistic came out of a
Speaker 1: conversation about toxic masculinity, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: it's like these and this is a conversation being had
Speaker 1: with like high school students, Like they're like the fact
Speaker 1: that the Republican Party thinks that that there's this you know,
Speaker 1: class of people who are just who just need to
Speaker 1: be deprogrammed from actual reality, like get the hell out
Speaker 1: of here, Like that's that's that's why you're fucking red
Speaker 1: wave was non existent. Yeah, seriously, And I think it
Speaker 1: just shows like they're they're just continued, like they just
Speaker 1: don't understand, like they're cannot separate themselves from their policy
Speaker 1: and understand that that's it's repulsive to a majority of
Speaker 1: people at this point, Like what they stand for is
Speaker 1: like literally repulsive to a voter. And yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's like with anything, right, there's always this thing of
Speaker 1: like whenever a group is in power, they just like
Speaker 1: to say, come on, get over it, man, shake my hand.
Speaker 1: Can't we just get along now? And I don't want
Speaker 1: to address the history or the actual context or the
Speaker 1: structures that will continue the issue. I just want you
Speaker 1: to say, you'll stop complaining about it, and that was
Speaker 1: about his most that it's not about yeah, let me
Speaker 1: address rape culture or you know, chauvinism in this country
Speaker 1: and X, Y, and Z, because there was no reckoning
Speaker 1: from it was so that was why I so like
Speaker 1: such a clear, like chauvinistic thing where it's like I
Speaker 1: will be fixed as a man. Y'all need to stop
Speaker 1: cutting your hair and calling me toxic? Now can we
Speaker 1: get along? Offer zero changes? On his part, he was
Speaker 1: just like, hey, look we're we're peacocks here, but yeah,
Speaker 1: you need us so motherfucker they don't. Yeah, And it
Speaker 1: turns out that's it's not gonna work, like you're only
Speaker 1: going to continue to look around like where the funk
Speaker 1: are people going? Which I think shows again why you
Speaker 1: have people like Nick Fuentez who see the writing on
Speaker 1: the wall and they're like, there's no way you can
Speaker 1: win with a policy like this unless it's just forcing
Speaker 1: people to live under this kind of society. That's it.
Speaker 1: Because the momentum is getting away from us at this point,
Speaker 1: and now they're not playing politics, they're just basically saying,
Speaker 1: how can we corner motherfucker's with our ideology? That's it.
Speaker 1: They're not interested in winning anything. It's just now it's
Speaker 1: a game of how can we set up legal legislative
Speaker 1: structures that will just enshrine all of this ship into
Speaker 1: law or make it the norm. So then we win
Speaker 1: that game now and y'all can just suffer under that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well it's a good thing that they only have a
Speaker 1: six three majority on the Supreme Court. So yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: get to that. All right, let's take a quick break
Speaker 1: and let's let's talk about something. Listen, let's talk water
Speaker 1: and catch up. We'll come back and talk water and
Speaker 1: catch up. Back and we're back. And so there's an
Speaker 1: article in The take Out that The Takeout is a
Speaker 1: fast food blog that is the probably most cited source
Speaker 1: on our just most cited source on on air show.
Speaker 1: But they're making the claim that Hunts is actually a superior,
Speaker 1: more adult catchup because it's not as sweet as Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're basically saying that as we age, we lose
Speaker 1: our taste for sweetness. And so if if you were
Speaker 1: like a completely objective adult doing a taste test, you
Speaker 1: would actually prefer Hunts. But because of brand loyalty, because
Speaker 1: the time when we're actually eating our most ketchup is
Speaker 1: in childhood. That's when Hinz kind of wins you over.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, I'm just curious to hear you
Speaker 1: guys experiences with ketchup. I'm not I look, I will
Speaker 1: say I'm loyal. I'm definitely a loyal person. So I
Speaker 1: definitely the brand loyalty thing, Like without even considering it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, get that Hunt's nonsense away from me. But
Speaker 1: I like to think I can be objective. So I
Speaker 1: do have some Hunts ketch up in front of me
Speaker 1: that I will test in a second. But that that's
Speaker 1: where I'm at. What about you? What's your what's your ketchup?
Speaker 1: Where allegiance is that? Where are you at? You know?
Speaker 1: It's funny is when I was like in middle school,
Speaker 1: whenever I would complain to my dad that I was hungry,
Speaker 1: and usually it was my brothers and sisters, all of
Speaker 1: us complaining, he would be like, you better drink a
Speaker 1: tall glass of water and you know, eat some packs
Speaker 1: of ketchup. And those packs were always hying. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't even remember a pack of huntspect. I feel
Speaker 1: like Hinds had the market cornered for a long time.
Speaker 1: And now you're starting to see more like I think
Speaker 1: because the Hines is associated with just you know, mass market,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of people testing the waters with their
Speaker 1: like Whole Foods three sixty five brand catch up and
Speaker 1: like organic catchup and ship like that. I've I've not
Speaker 1: found any of those two be as good and it
Speaker 1: is a source of some discussion in our household because
Speaker 1: I'm like, we should just give the kids hinds, right,
Speaker 1: but like as opposed to the one with no preservatives
Speaker 1: that tastes bad. That's that's man. That's the stuff that
Speaker 1: makes a child be small because of all the preservatives
Speaker 1: that as a kid. That's my And I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: look at all those kids. W couldn't have McDonald's with
Speaker 1: your short asses. Not joking, but hunts, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: have a packet right here. I was just just gonna taste
Speaker 1: a little. You're gonna just take a take a packet
Speaker 1: to the dome the way ketchup wasn't tended to because
Speaker 1: with a tall glass of water. You know, I'm telling
Speaker 1: you he knew something that was Okay, hunch, catch up,
Speaker 1: Let's catch up to the dome. We should say that
Speaker 1: miles before he dug into this packet of Hunts. He
Speaker 1: also had another packet that was puffed up. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of gas building up. You know, I'm not
Speaker 1: mad at Hunts. Actually, Okay, but now, okay, I gotta
Speaker 1: I got I got some Hinns too. So the other
Speaker 1: thing about taste tests is that they don't wait for
Speaker 1: good podcast segments. He shouldn't do them on podcast. Hear
Speaker 1: me rifle through my loose back of continents, like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's another puffy packet. Well, I already know how kinds
Speaker 1: tastes because last night I ate the standard my favorite
Speaker 1: food in America, which is grocery store potato wedges, and
Speaker 1: I had that with ketchup. I can't say instantly, I
Speaker 1: taste high Hunts and I'm like, it's not sweet sweet,
Speaker 1: And I don't know if I would necessarily appreciate that more.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, I get what you're saying, yeah, but
Speaker 1: it I'm not like, oh my god, what have I
Speaker 1: been doing? Yeah, I know it's you gotta be careful
Speaker 1: with that ketchup taste and you know, removing too much
Speaker 1: of the sweetness, because it's like you'll just be left
Speaker 1: with this like kind of rust. Taste this like copper tinny, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: ketchup can get like that too, or like other ketchup
Speaker 1: when it's not sweeter, like what, it's got a weird
Speaker 1: not ketchup feeling to me. Yeah, And I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe Hines just shifted the goalpost so much that in
Speaker 1: our minds, like it has redefined even what the flavor
Speaker 1: of ketchup is to someone, because I think that's the
Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. It's not that I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, Dunts tastes like ship, but I'm more like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's less sweet. But also in my mind, that's not
Speaker 1: what catchup is. What Hines has done is pretty remarkable
Speaker 1: because like when you look at look at the mustard space,
Speaker 1: there's you know, one thousand different types of mustard, Like
Speaker 1: do you kind of like have to have all the
Speaker 1: different types of mustard? Like you you don't because each
Speaker 1: one is different, and like to just completely corner a
Speaker 1: product and be like, yeah, that's really the only one
Speaker 1: that people recognize like kind of across the board as
Speaker 1: the as the best in brand. Yeah, we're also just
Speaker 1: doing some research because I had a possibly false memory
Speaker 1: that McDonald's had Hines catch up recently. Could be that
Speaker 1: I was happy meals, yeah, and those happy meals, but
Speaker 1: it was they stopped serving Hans and now serve McDonald's
Speaker 1: fancy ketchup, which I didn't notice. So I didn't know
Speaker 1: that they stopped because the new CEO of Hinz like
Speaker 1: left his position as the worldwide CEO of Burger King
Speaker 1: to take over Hines and McDonald's. Like, now we're not
Speaker 1: working with them anymore. Like, oh, you went from Burger
Speaker 1: King to Hines. Guess who doesn't want Hines anymore us?
Speaker 1: Which is so wild. They said it was a quote.
Speaker 1: The primary reason for ending the partnership was a quote
Speaker 1: recent management change at all. Right, So yeah, so nothing,
Speaker 1: nothing definitive, but may maybe give Hunts a second look.
Speaker 1: If you if you're like me and have just been,
Speaker 1: you know, dismissing Hunts out of hand, I'll say this.
Speaker 1: If you're if you need to be worried about your
Speaker 1: sugar intake, sure, I get you know, that's a definitely
Speaker 1: a healthier option. But for me, I don't think it's that,
Speaker 1: Like my palate is more mature as I age. It's
Speaker 1: just that well, I think it's it's just more it's
Speaker 1: like just more cynical than that. Just hinz has completely
Speaker 1: shifted the goalposts and people's like mouths for like what
Speaker 1: catchup is and it's just sorry they you know, that's
Speaker 1: it is what it is now. Yeah. Also, Hines has
Speaker 1: an organic brand. I mean it hasn't organic. Yeah, yeah
Speaker 1: it does. It hasn't organic and it has yeah, and
Speaker 1: it has one without sugar, you know. So yeah, no
Speaker 1: brand loyalty. Yeah, keep enjoying. Also, they're all probably bad
Speaker 1: for you. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure sweetened with
Speaker 1: high fruit those oh yeah, oh yeah, most definitely. Yeah. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you on the daily geist. Really
Speaker 1: enjoy talking to you. Where can people find you? Follow
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff? You could find me at
Speaker 1: survivors Hill dot com and they're all my social media
Speaker 1: is linked. Yeah. Yeah, and tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: about your podcast too. Yeah. So my podcast is really
Speaker 1: a compilation of the stories and practices and tools and
Speaker 1: resources that come from my work, my life's work, because
Speaker 1: you know, it's like fifteen years in doing work to
Speaker 1: support survivors of crime, but also doing adjacent work in advocacy,
Speaker 1: in organizing at the grassroots level. So yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I get to talk with a lot of people who
Speaker 1: are really close to me, and then I get to
Speaker 1: talk with a lot of people who have been in
Speaker 1: the field themselves, just you know, looking to interrupt violence
Speaker 1: and also like just be solutions oriented, you know, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's I mean? What? What? What's like the biggest thing
Speaker 1: we're missing from our conversations because I think most of
Speaker 1: the way we usually consume stories about crime is like
Speaker 1: and then someone is arrested, case and that's done. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no you talk about you talk about true crime
Speaker 1: on your show too, being like a thing that people
Speaker 1: are obsessed with. But maybe a lot of it is
Speaker 1: because so many Americans are victims of crime or no
Speaker 1: victims of crime, right absolutely. And I think that what
Speaker 1: is missing from the conversation is that we don't focus
Speaker 1: on like what happens to the survivors after the crime,
Speaker 1: Like we we don't focus on the healing part of
Speaker 1: what happens after crime. And you see, you've seen that
Speaker 1: just now in the in that whole thing with Netflix
Speaker 1: and the Domer situation, where like the victims and the
Speaker 1: survivors of that we're not even like compensated or contacted
Speaker 1: or you know, and and I think that not having
Speaker 1: a conversation about what it takes to heal from all
Speaker 1: of these tragedies that we've grown accustomed to is is
Speaker 1: it's a part of the reason why we continue, you know,
Speaker 1: just to see it all sensationalized. I think that we
Speaker 1: need to have more conversations about what it will take
Speaker 1: for us as a culture to really shift our imaginations
Speaker 1: into and not just our imagination but our practices, which
Speaker 1: is really important in our policies, you know, to supporting
Speaker 1: people in taking more cont full of their healing journeys,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, And I think, yeah, it's like a
Speaker 1: huge philologist in general, like you say, culturally, especially in America,
Speaker 1: like the idea no one wants to struggle publicly, no
Speaker 1: one will acknowledge their struggling, And like the bigger part
Speaker 1: of that is like healing is such a huge part
Speaker 1: that's missing, because I think so much like the American
Speaker 1: ethos is like strong, you get through it, don't worry
Speaker 1: about it, you take yourself back up. But meanwhile, in
Speaker 1: the background, whatever transgressions you've been through or experience, those
Speaker 1: linger without actually being addressed and fester into other ideas
Speaker 1: or other problems. Or continue similar cycles of violence or
Speaker 1: lies or whatever. And yeah, like I think it really
Speaker 1: is powerful to just to have a show that's about
Speaker 1: saying like this is the importance of actually acknowledging our
Speaker 1: humanity and how important the concept of healing is because
Speaker 1: we don't we're not really we're not anchoring a lot
Speaker 1: of those conversations. So I think it's really fantastic like
Speaker 1: work that you're doing. And hope everybody who's listening to this,
Speaker 1: we'll definitely check out the show as well. And damn thanks.
Speaker 1: Is there a tweet or some of the work of
Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying? Oh, then it's you know,
Speaker 1: there's a YouTube. There's like these shorts like another satisfying
Speaker 1: racial moment. Hey, god, those ones to get me every day,
Speaker 1: Like just random bits of life where you know, folks
Speaker 1: are you know, just displaying their understanding of what it
Speaker 1: is to be a person of color in this country. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they're really hilarious. Like when I saw yesterday, it's
Speaker 1: like a lady was just mining her business, like doing
Speaker 1: her job working, you know, making a sandwich, and some
Speaker 1: guy comes along is like do you serve crackers or
Speaker 1: we serve everybody here. It's terrible, terrible, terrible, but you
Speaker 1: know I've been amused. Yeah, Miles, where can people find you?
Speaker 1: And what is the tweet you've been enjoying? Hey, if
Speaker 1: they got as symbols, type in miles of gray after
Speaker 1: chances are um there. Uh. You can also find me
Speaker 1: and Jack on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got
Speaker 1: the number one hundred percent top rated NBA podcast with
Speaker 1: comedy in it, hosted by men named Miles or Jack
Speaker 1: hailing from the San Fernando Valley area or Wheeling, West Virginia, Dayton, Ohio,
Speaker 1: Massachusetts or other places. Uh. And also find me on
Speaker 1: four twenty Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandro, where we talk
Speaker 1: ninety day fiance. Some tweets that I like. First, one's
Speaker 1: from Mike Drucker at Mike Drucker saying, I feel like
Speaker 1: we're close to cracking the mystery of whether the man
Speaker 1: who grew up wealthy from apartheid might be racist. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I think we might be getting there. Uh.
Speaker 1: Then another one at right or Toast tweeted a man
Speaker 1: A man and his son are in a car accident.
Speaker 1: The man is killed instantly, his son is rushed to
Speaker 1: the hospital. The surgeon says, I can't operate on this patient.
Speaker 1: He is my son. The car then crashes through the
Speaker 1: wall of the operating room, killing everyone. How is this possible?
Speaker 1: The answer tesla spin on that old riddle. That's why
Speaker 1: it's truly wild like that is that that was a
Speaker 1: riddle that people were like, I don't know, man, Like,
Speaker 1: how is it? What do you mean? Yeah? Really, in
Speaker 1: some ways we've come along a long way. You know
Speaker 1: what I was just thinking about that is kind of unrelated,
Speaker 1: but like kind of related. Is like that less than
Speaker 1: a generation go, people were like, the way to a
Speaker 1: man's heart is through his stomach. If you just if
Speaker 1: you just make yummy food for them, they'll fall in
Speaker 1: love with you. Is like such a wild, a wild
Speaker 1: thing that I think, like even my dad's that was
Speaker 1: like like men perpetuating those through to the media, so helpless,
Speaker 1: Just she give me food. Yeah, and hey, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: this character I'm writing dialogue for is my dream woman,
Speaker 1: and she's gonna tell other women that the way to
Speaker 1: a man's heart is through feeding him a ton of
Speaker 1: food that he likes. Yeah, and enter, let's see some
Speaker 1: tweets I've been enjoying hot Pink Furby tweeted, Twizzlers fulfill
Speaker 1: my primal urge to chew on electrical wires. Jeremy Parrish
Speaker 1: probably tweeted out of nowhere, my nephew just asked, do
Speaker 1: you think Pavlov thought about feeding his dog every time
Speaker 1: he heard a bell ring? And now I'm going to
Speaker 1: be haunted by this question. That might have been a
Speaker 1: conversation that happened after the walk at Thanksgiving, you know.
Speaker 1: And oh and then handle Lynn tweeted, brain cell rotted.
Speaker 1: I can't read quote it's giving Tuesday the normal way,
Speaker 1: which when I saw that trending on Twitter, I was like,
Speaker 1: m it's giving Tuesday. Like that's it's serving Tuesday. It's
Speaker 1: giving real Tuesday vibes instead of got intended. So anyways,
Speaker 1: shout out to handle It. You can find me on
Speaker 1: Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You can find us on
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Speaker 1: our footnotes where we link off to the information that
Speaker 1: we talked about in today's episode. As well as a
Speaker 1: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song
Speaker 1: do you think people might enjoy? Oh? Man, you know,
Speaker 1: I was just some more drumming bass I was listening
Speaker 1: to the other day. It was getting me so motivated.
Speaker 1: This one is called Out of My Head featuring Cherry
Speaker 1: Aid C H E R R Y A d E.
Speaker 1: And it's by the Groom Ladd maybe DJ. But man,
Speaker 1: this was just some you know, exercise drumming bass music
Speaker 1: where if you want to power walker some ship to this,
Speaker 1: throw this onto your headphones and get your heart right up.
Speaker 1: And when you're picturing power walking, are you picturing the
Speaker 1: loose hoop, the loose hip wiggle, the like the real
Speaker 1: speed walkers do ye oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.
Speaker 1: Because that's like some music that makes me do that.
Speaker 1: The only way you could do it almost looks like
Speaker 1: you like doing it, like a like a salt se
Speaker 1: or something like if you just saw the shoulders, you'd
Speaker 1: be like, oh if is that the south side. I'm
Speaker 1: listening to drumming bass and I'm getting my my stepson.
Speaker 1: That's my favorite, the coolest looking sport. If anybody hasn't
Speaker 1: seen speed walkers in action, love the honey in their hips.
Speaker 1: I remember the first time I saw it on TV.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a fucking joke. I think it was.
Speaker 1: And I remember my mom. I used to do that
Speaker 1: ship all the time. Pissed my mom. Stop sucking around
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what are you doing? I would be like,
Speaker 1: how fast do you think I could go? How fast
Speaker 1: think I could go? Before I shout out of speed walking?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, go listen to that song and do
Speaker 1: a little speed walking around your neighborhood. Get the hips waggling.
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