Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast. The history is rich from
Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio. It's Around the NFL, Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler here, Greg Rosenhal. But one more hero. Yes, she
Speaker 1: did utter that immortal line at the Philadelphia County Golf
Speaker 1: Club county decades ago. It's Colleen Wolf the Poconos Visitors Bureau,
Speaker 1: and we're inside Golf. Can you acknowledge, Connie, because you
Speaker 1: know I love those things illustrious beginning. Can you acknowledge
Speaker 1: that you personally saw to it that that YouTube video
Speaker 1: was pulled down? Because I did look for it and
Speaker 1: it's gone. It's weird. It's weird. Every trace of Inside
Speaker 1: Golf off the internet. I'm sure. I'm sure the listeners
Speaker 1: will find to something. I mean, because there's got to
Speaker 1: be something less advertisement for the Poconos Golf Club. I'm
Speaker 1: sure they're not going to be happy with this. And
Speaker 1: the visited b it's now part of the history of
Speaker 1: this program Around the NFL. So the history is rich,
Speaker 1: very rich. Listeners there, Colleen's trying to erase history. If
Speaker 1: you could find in our archive of episodes some of
Speaker 1: the great lines from Colleen's guest hosting job at the
Speaker 1: country club, so we could re reinvigorate that element into
Speaker 1: our show. It's horrendous. There's plenty to choose from, or
Speaker 1: just put the video back up? Where are the taping?
Speaker 1: Where are the Delaware tapes? Why is everyone hiding media
Speaker 1: from I have nothing to hide in neither of you.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the psychology behind Greg and Colleen shading
Speaker 1: their past. That sounds like an amazing offseason podcast. That's Mark,
Speaker 1: Mr Open Book. What do you want to know? Mark?
Speaker 1: That was good? That was good comic timing, Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: We have a good app today, very good. It's the
Speaker 1: Tuesday show, and um it is it is a Thursday
Speaker 1: night preview of course, right across the sidewalk here the
Speaker 1: Raiders and Rams. We're gonna get to that. We're gonna
Speaker 1: bring back one of our favorite games. I'll leave it
Speaker 1: at that, what of our one of our legacy? Just
Speaker 1: like that's a legacy drop that colleens trying to erase, eradicate,
Speaker 1: a legacy seg that will be bringing back later. Um
Speaker 1: and before that, though, let's do some news because there's
Speaker 1: some juicy news to hit here and bang on this Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Hit it grave Digger, Well, I mean I think we're
Speaker 1: at a cross roads. I told the team, I think
Speaker 1: we're at a cross roads and kind of how we,
Speaker 1: you know, want to want to continue down this season? Yes, there,
Speaker 1: there he is again. Mike Rabel. After that disappointing, bitterly
Speaker 1: disappointing blowout loss to the Eagles of Rabel pointed to
Speaker 1: his Tennessee Titans team and said, we're at a cross
Speaker 1: roads and we're gonna figure out who we are and
Speaker 1: the organization will begin this walk down one whatever whatever
Speaker 1: it is, what road they go down without John Robinson,
Speaker 1: the general manager, who was suddenly fired on Tuesday after
Speaker 1: seven seasons um The team later confirmed the news. Here's
Speaker 1: a little bit of their official words on the issue
Speaker 1: from Amy Adams Strunk, the chairman and CEO chairperson. I
Speaker 1: should say I am proud what we have accomplished in
Speaker 1: my eight seasons of ownership, but I believe there is
Speaker 1: more to be done and higher aspirations to be met.
Speaker 1: I want to thank John for his dedicated work to
Speaker 1: set this organization on an upward trajectory, and I wish
Speaker 1: him and his family the best. Greg Rosenthal, Titans Vice
Speaker 1: President player personnel Ryan Cowden, will take over Robinson's duties
Speaker 1: on an interim basis, why now, why at all? Why
Speaker 1: are the Titans making this move? We don't know yet.
Speaker 1: I've been waiting. I put a call out to the insiders,
Speaker 1: you know, like this is where I've got a couple
Speaker 1: of conversations myself, the a t N insiders need to know.
Speaker 1: No conversation. I did it just publicly on Twitter. I'm like,
Speaker 1: give me the real scoop here, because the timingsn't count.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, give me the real s The
Speaker 1: timing doesn't make any sense to me. That The simplest
Speaker 1: explanation is it's a power play by Mike Rabel. I
Speaker 1: think that seems almost understood with what's going on here,
Speaker 1: that Mike Rabel is the guy who's sticking around and
Speaker 1: John Robinson is not. There's two men who have been
Speaker 1: in charge of the organization, and one has more power
Speaker 1: than the other, and now he's gonna have even more power.
Speaker 1: That's Mike Rabel. But why why Sunday Night? Why Monday?
Speaker 1: Was it really that watching a J Brown catch passes
Speaker 1: all over you like enraged Rabel and helendnership so much
Speaker 1: that that made it happened? Was there something personal. Was
Speaker 1: there a confrontation between the parties. We don't know. We
Speaker 1: just don't know. There's a little reactionary like this is
Speaker 1: a situation where Robinson was extended in the off season
Speaker 1: in February, So it can't just be a J. Brown obviously,
Speaker 1: like there's gotta be something more, which I think will
Speaker 1: come to find out. But I mean, that was obviously
Speaker 1: a big deal, and it's coming right off the game
Speaker 1: that A J. Brown got after them, But still it's
Speaker 1: kind of wild. The only connection I'd make is what
Speaker 1: if what if John Robinson, through the process of it
Speaker 1: was you know, nettlesome negotiations with A J. Brown and
Speaker 1: all these other wide receivers under the same agent. We're
Speaker 1: moving getting lucrative deals, and then they the Titans basically
Speaker 1: got to the point where A J. Brown didn't want
Speaker 1: to play for them, so the deal went south, and
Speaker 1: then you trade him. And if you go back to
Speaker 1: the draft footage of when they announced the trade, Mike
Speaker 1: Rabel gets up out of his chair. It looks like
Speaker 1: he's about to throw the chair first of all, but
Speaker 1: he does a little ruly dually like turnaround and he's steamed,
Speaker 1: and you can tell he's not happy, and they were
Speaker 1: on the same page with that, And I wonder if
Speaker 1: Amy Adams strung Slash other ownership individuals were not I
Speaker 1: A s We're not on the on the board with
Speaker 1: the thing either, and so maybe at that point there's
Speaker 1: a there's a break between John Robinson's program building and
Speaker 1: Rabel if there already wasn't to begin with an ownership
Speaker 1: and then this happened, and it kind of was like
Speaker 1: the flare up if you're in a you're close to
Speaker 1: someone and something happens and you can reminded of something
Speaker 1: from the past. This was like the embarrassing exclamation point
Speaker 1: that caused us severance that they were gonna part ways
Speaker 1: probably anyways after the season, and it got you hot
Speaker 1: just one because I'm with Greg. We don't know. Mike
Speaker 1: Garrifolo said, the more that he's talked to people, the
Speaker 1: less sense any of it makes. Albert Brier said that
Speaker 1: he's talked to people inside the Titans organization and they
Speaker 1: were floored by it. It wasn't like the other people
Speaker 1: didn't know this was gonna be there's too there's too
Speaker 1: much smoke to me. Justin Graver or producer and resident
Speaker 1: Titans fanatic u to the A. J. Brown's situation, not
Speaker 1: just that the game just happened and it was a
Speaker 1: one sided blowout, but the way A J. Brown spoke
Speaker 1: frankly about wanting to stay in Tennessee and they didn't
Speaker 1: want me, and then a couple of days later, the
Speaker 1: GM is gone. And I'm not saying that that led
Speaker 1: directly to this, but it does maybe feel like the
Speaker 1: straw that broke the camel's back. Potentially again, a lot
Speaker 1: we don't know, But where are you coming down on this? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it definitely feels like A. J. Brown. Maybe maybe it
Speaker 1: was like the final straw. But because John Robinson built
Speaker 1: this team from a two and fourteen, three and thirteen
Speaker 1: bottom dweller into perennially winning season, he's only ever had
Speaker 1: winning seasons. They're about to win the division for semi
Speaker 1: straight winning seasons. He goes back to Exotic smash Mouth. Yes,
Speaker 1: he hired Mike Malarkey and a lot of reports at
Speaker 1: the time where he was the general manager that took
Speaker 1: the job because they were forcing Mike Malarkey on the
Speaker 1: coach whoever the general manager would be, and that they
Speaker 1: wouldn't get to pick their own coach. But then Robinson
Speaker 1: was instrum metal and hiring Mike Vrabel, and you'd think that,
Speaker 1: I mean, every every sign we've ever had out of
Speaker 1: this organization is that those two are in lockstep. And
Speaker 1: there was the video footage of Rabel being clearly upset
Speaker 1: after the A. J. Brown trade, And so I think,
Speaker 1: if you are just connecting dots with the information we have,
Speaker 1: if unless there's more happening behind the scenes, that has
Speaker 1: to be the start of whatever this schism is. And
Speaker 1: Edward Or was talking to Mike Variable before the Titans
Speaker 1: Chiefs game on Sunday Night Football a few weeks ago,
Speaker 1: basically asking if the Titans running game is the only
Speaker 1: option and if they have any other ways they can
Speaker 1: move the offense. And Vrabel said, this is what we
Speaker 1: have to do. Who the bleep are we going to
Speaker 1: throw too? And you look at A J. Brown dominating
Speaker 1: the Titans secondary smoke and and you think about it,
Speaker 1: Think about two weeks ago we're talking abous on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Marks were like, I was saying, you know, let's let's
Speaker 1: hold tight on the Titans and and burying them. Not
Speaker 1: that you guys were, but because how recently to Thursday
Speaker 1: nights ago when they beat Green Bay seventeen Lambeau and
Speaker 1: there's seven and three. It's just it's just so strange
Speaker 1: to me that we could get so quickly from there,
Speaker 1: uh to a narrow loss to Cincinnati to a blowout
Speaker 1: loss to Philly and everything will happened with Brown and
Speaker 1: now the GM's out. Um. It just kind of whiplash
Speaker 1: how quickly things have changed in Tennessee and what happens
Speaker 1: going forward. It really is I mean, Rabel he told
Speaker 1: us on Sunday, this is a crossroads moment. It really
Speaker 1: does feel for this organization now where they are going
Speaker 1: down the stretch. I just think that if there's one
Speaker 1: area where there's a void of information for most of
Speaker 1: us covering the game for people watching, is the in
Speaker 1: the in house dynamics between coaches and gms and some
Speaker 1: of these other people. We just don't know, and so
Speaker 1: we didn't have the information. We still don't. But there's
Speaker 1: no way this just started like a couple of days
Speaker 1: ago because of just that result against the Eagles, And
Speaker 1: when we're hearing that, everyone seems confused, like inside the
Speaker 1: league and inside the building. To me, that makes me
Speaker 1: more suspicious that it's that it's a personal thing, especially
Speaker 1: when if you connect some dots. Look, Rabel's got friends
Speaker 1: in the media. Uh. In general, you can usually hear
Speaker 1: things sort of from from the Mike Rebel perspective, and
Speaker 1: yet this time it's kind of radio silence. And it's
Speaker 1: a tale as old as like football time coach front
Speaker 1: office disagrees. At some point, one guy hires the other.
Speaker 1: John Robinson hired Mike Rabel, and at some point the
Speaker 1: power dynamics change or they don't change, or they work together.
Speaker 1: And at this point Rabels certainly got more juice. We
Speaker 1: don't need to question that that he's the most important
Speaker 1: person in this organization other than the owner. And for
Speaker 1: whatever reason you can, you could be sure that this
Speaker 1: move isn't happening unless Mike Rabel is pushing for it,
Speaker 1: and think and unless someone is pushing back, like Mike
Speaker 1: Rebel against that, then that's what all. I'll just say it.
Speaker 1: Like if A. J. Brown goes four for sixty one
Speaker 1: and seventeen Titans win on Sunday, I think John Robinson
Speaker 1: still the GM. This is this is two weird fase.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, But there we could find out
Speaker 1: something completely different. Than blows this entire but it's just
Speaker 1: like the A. J. Brown And I'm sure you agree.
Speaker 1: I know justin A J. Brown decision wasn't just any
Speaker 1: personnel decision. It changed fundamentally so much about that team
Speaker 1: and what they could do and and seeing him thrive
Speaker 1: the way he has with the best team in football.
Speaker 1: And it was dumb in the moment. We killed it
Speaker 1: in the moment. Well, so everyone was shocked when that happened, right,
Speaker 1: and Rabel comes from Belichick. I'm not saying that they're
Speaker 1: like in any way, but like it was a move
Speaker 1: that allowed the player to control the team and the Titans,
Speaker 1: the negotiations the front office. It made Rabel look like
Speaker 1: he couldn't control the situation with the player. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's a coach that likes that dynamic. Robins said
Speaker 1: always ranked pretty high, and those GM rankings they do
Speaker 1: every year, it's he's always like sneaky or like Okay,
Speaker 1: the first round picks have struggled, uh since Jeffrey Simmons.
Speaker 1: And they did draft Jeffrey Simmons, A J. Brown and
Speaker 1: David Long in the same draft, and a Monti Hooker.
Speaker 1: I mean that's twenty nineteen was a killer class a
Speaker 1: home run draft, and he's had some bad top of
Speaker 1: the draft picks lately. Caleb Farley and their offensive line
Speaker 1: hasn't improved a lot, But for the most part, it's
Speaker 1: like they've built a team that you know who they are.
Speaker 1: They're big, strong, and tough. They're not good up front
Speaker 1: right now on the offensive line, but it's like Robinson
Speaker 1: had did a pretty good job. I think bringing into
Speaker 1: I'd like to see if Abel driving around, you know, Nashville,
Speaker 1: listening to this show a couple of hours from now
Speaker 1: and being like, I agree with that. They don't know
Speaker 1: what they're talking about. That was a good point. I
Speaker 1: agree with that. Not they don't have the whole story.
Speaker 1: That's for the Mark Bot. It seems to me that
Speaker 1: Amy Adams Strunk is not satisfied with winning the division
Speaker 1: three times in a row. A I get that, but
Speaker 1: it's just it's just Week four team that is often
Speaker 1: after the season, after their first round loss. It's different.
Speaker 1: But the timing of it is kind of important because
Speaker 1: the college All Star circuits about to start. This is
Speaker 1: what the time of the year where you have all
Speaker 1: the tape on the college prospects now because the college
Speaker 1: football season is just about ending and they got to
Speaker 1: gear up and get ready for a draft. And if
Speaker 1: you don't trust John Robinson's roster construction, which was the
Speaker 1: main point that Amy ms Strunk noted in that statement,
Speaker 1: was that the roster construction direction is not what we think.
Speaker 1: Up has an in with a A S. Based on
Speaker 1: pre show covers you guys have talked. She told me
Speaker 1: she liked my Twitter videos, which was a really cool
Speaker 1: moment as a fan at a time like this, the
Speaker 1: franchise and your podcast in crisis and we're talking about
Speaker 1: personal meetings. What's the name of that podcast? I have it? Ye,
Speaker 1: think about what happened. What's happened for the Titans since
Speaker 1: about eleven PM Central Time in Wisconsin. Todd Downing gets
Speaker 1: a d u I, they get beat by four points
Speaker 1: by the Bengals, They get the doors blown up by
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and A. J. Brown goes off and then
Speaker 1: talks about it after the game and then the GM
Speaker 1: gets fired. Wow darkness. Hey, but Drunk loves Graver's videos everything.
Speaker 1: By the way, that's also when I jumped on the
Speaker 1: Titans fan wagon right around the time that Todd Downing
Speaker 1: was happening night on the town so or on the
Speaker 1: plane that on the town, marks on thin nice with
Speaker 1: the Titans. Fans are now didn't intend to be that way.
Speaker 1: You're you're two, you're you have one foot in two bandwagons,
Speaker 1: the Cults and the Titans, and they're both literally in
Speaker 1: flames and they hate each other each other. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: speaking of things Mark was connected to that turned into
Speaker 1: poison Baker Mayfield sec of the year right there. Uh.
Speaker 1: He is no longer connected to an NFL team. Uh.
Speaker 1: He has been waived by the Carolina Panthers, the team
Speaker 1: that brought him in UM for a conditional fifth round
Speaker 1: draft pick in July. He beat out Sam Donald in
Speaker 1: the summer for the starting gig and then immediately struggled
Speaker 1: with the team. Lost five of his six starts, had
Speaker 1: an injury, and UM when he found out now with
Speaker 1: Donald now the starter, p J. Walker the backup. When
Speaker 1: he was told he would not be starting or a backup,
Speaker 1: he requested to be waived, and the Panthers are like,
Speaker 1: see you later, good luck. So he hits now Mark
Speaker 1: the uh the waiver process. There are some teams you
Speaker 1: could think of that could use a quarterback right now,
Speaker 1: including one in San Francisco. We'll see what happens where
Speaker 1: he lands across the street. We might find out during
Speaker 1: the show. Wouldn't be surprised if we had developing news.
Speaker 1: There is some birdies talking about Baker ending up with
Speaker 1: the Rams, but his time in the Panthers ends. He
Speaker 1: doesn't even make it through this season. I mean his
Speaker 1: career has had a very dark trajectory itself. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean the forty Night just just signed Josh Johnson a
Speaker 1: day after Shanahan kind of shot down the idea that
Speaker 1: he said he liked Baker Mayfield like any coach would say,
Speaker 1: but probably not going to shake things up, so I
Speaker 1: would personally take them off the list. I don't know
Speaker 1: why you'd do that. Um, maybe the Rams. I think
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was According to Joe Person of The Athletic,
Speaker 1: it sounded like he was getting the push more from
Speaker 1: Matt Rule, and so post Matt Rule, where Steve Wilkes,
Speaker 1: you know, had interest in other quarterbacks playing, and there
Speaker 1: was the whispers right when Matt Rule got fired that
Speaker 1: there was an interest inside the building. Seen Sam Donald
Speaker 1: again before the season ended, that I kind of get that,
Speaker 1: like Baker Mayfield. You know, did one is out of this,
Speaker 1: But I don't think it has something to do with
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield wanting him out. In his way out, he
Speaker 1: saw that the team did not have any interest in
Speaker 1: him in the future. And I don't know what his
Speaker 1: future is. I would just say that he's signed a
Speaker 1: twenty one million dollars signing bonus, he's made additional money.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need the money and does how many first
Speaker 1: overall picks are content to go through the toil and
Speaker 1: the grind of being a backup or even fighting for
Speaker 1: a backup job after that's how he got into the league.
Speaker 1: I just don't think there's that many. And that doesn't
Speaker 1: feel like David Carr. But that is noneable because it's
Speaker 1: an exception. Yeah, but then if you want to throw
Speaker 1: in the Baker Mayfield personality and stuff, that's very different
Speaker 1: than David Carr. And I'm even you know how this
Speaker 1: played out with and I'm not killing him. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be kill Baker about this, But the fact that
Speaker 1: a guy that's you know, buried on a depth chart
Speaker 1: for a bad team that's had a bad year, he's
Speaker 1: in the news because he told the team he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be there anymore. If he's not going to
Speaker 1: be active on there is something he said for Baker,
Speaker 1: you're playing poorly. He played poorly for two years. Just
Speaker 1: be quiet and wait till the end of the season
Speaker 1: and then it hit the open market and try to
Speaker 1: resurrect your career. Instead, he's back in the news for
Speaker 1: wanting to be disconnected from another team, And I just wonder,
Speaker 1: and I've talked about this. I know Baker has had
Speaker 1: more success than a guy like Sam Donald, for instance.
Speaker 1: You love this take his age like the best wine.
Speaker 1: You know you're breaking out this taking and this is
Speaker 1: not gonna be Donald, you know, as better than Baker.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just saying I wonder what his market,
Speaker 1: even as a backup, will be, even if he wants
Speaker 1: to be that guys, I don't think it's great because
Speaker 1: of the extra because a good look behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: What did GMS think about him having this conversation and
Speaker 1: wanting to be waived in the middle of December. I
Speaker 1: don't even think it really matters that he said that
Speaker 1: he wanted a change, because this it's clear to me
Speaker 1: that as soon as p J. Walker was good to
Speaker 1: go to be the backup for Sam Donald that they
Speaker 1: were just going to be like, Okay, it doesn't make
Speaker 1: sense to have Baker Mayfield here. He's going to be inactive.
Speaker 1: And then you look at I mean, forget even this season,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield next year, all the quarterback free agents that
Speaker 1: are going to be on the market, I mean, Lamar Jackson,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, Jimmy g Gino, Daniel Jones. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have like a lot of different guys, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't think Baker Mayfield is necessarily better than any
Speaker 1: of them, so it's gonna be tough for him. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you brought that up because I'm starting to work
Speaker 1: on a twenty three free agents list. We're doing like
Speaker 1: an early top fifty and a couple of weeks, and
Speaker 1: I had done one back in August, and Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: was ranked third among the perspective quarterbacks in August, like
Speaker 1: way ahead of Gino, of course, and ahead of Daniel Jones,
Speaker 1: and ahead of Jacoby Brissett certainly. And now you think
Speaker 1: about where Baker Mayfield would be and he probably won't
Speaker 1: make the top one oh one because I don't know
Speaker 1: if he fits as a backup, like you said, and
Speaker 1: this is a chance for another team to take on
Speaker 1: what's actually, you know, a reasonably big size salary of
Speaker 1: five million dollar salaries, so they actually have to pay
Speaker 1: him halfway decent money two million dollars for the next
Speaker 1: five weeks or whatever it is if you if you
Speaker 1: amortize it out. I don't. I don't know if anyone
Speaker 1: necessarily that you are well read, Greg, what do you
Speaker 1: do it? Invest I don't even know the right word,
Speaker 1: you know, it never just keep going. No one knows
Speaker 1: if it's the right word, So you just sound like
Speaker 1: a bad job by the host. The old zeusers let
Speaker 1: it wrong because if I don't say anything, the audience like, oh,
Speaker 1: they all know what he means to we know you're
Speaker 1: just operating at a higher level. It's clear you don't
Speaker 1: know what it means. I think people can just connect
Speaker 1: the dots and assume that Colleen and Mark have no
Speaker 1: concept that I could just say context clues. I think
Speaker 1: I know what that meant. But the word itself was
Speaker 1: might as well been sent from Mars. I've read it before,
Speaker 1: I've never actually used it, I don't think before, So
Speaker 1: I think he made it up. I don't think. I
Speaker 1: don't think it was really correct. It was really I
Speaker 1: just needed to average it. And you know, we we
Speaker 1: do have a lot of takes on this show, greggy
Speaker 1: and wrong all the time. When you do get one right,
Speaker 1: you gradually right. No, you're right. To be clear, you're
Speaker 1: taking if Baker was in the same situation as darn
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have looked uh any better. And you're right.
Speaker 1: And it makes me even rethink Kevin Stefanski a little
Speaker 1: bit that Stefanski did so well with Baker and they
Speaker 1: almost they had a Super Bowl were the offense with Baker,
Speaker 1: and then even a year ago, like and now you
Speaker 1: see what he does with Jacoby Brissett, who's an upgrade
Speaker 1: from Baker, and you think, like, okay, he was made
Speaker 1: Coach of the Year. So I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people did give him his flowers, Greg as yours you
Speaker 1: of all people, Mark, I have one thing to tell you, damn.
Speaker 1: By the way, had Donald been the Week one starter,
Speaker 1: he'd be on the street right now too. I think
Speaker 1: any anyone who played well, that's my because if nothing else,
Speaker 1: Donald might not be a good quarterback, but he's a
Speaker 1: good soldier. Well, he wouldn't say, you're right, zero personality.
Speaker 1: So that see Darnald being a backup for a long time,
Speaker 1: and whereas Baker, I don't know if it's being a
Speaker 1: flashy personality. Get Baker Mayfield in the end, I got
Speaker 1: him some commercials. I think I've already agreed with with
Speaker 1: your the Baker Mayfield is too big of a headache
Speaker 1: at this point, but I think Donald, but you know,
Speaker 1: it's fart of the radar personality wise, but that probably
Speaker 1: helps him, like anyone in a faceless corporation, just float on,
Speaker 1: float on and collect your paychecks, punch your time card,
Speaker 1: have a nice time. A big winner in all this.
Speaker 1: That is progressive because Baker was pushing hard to keep
Speaker 1: those commercials going there. If they had said yes this year,
Speaker 1: which I think would have been reasonable, they were extremely
Speaker 1: popular commercials as commercials go. Now he would be moving again.
Speaker 1: And now he's you know, he's he's a problem, like
Speaker 1: they would have to redo the whole thing. You're material though,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they could figure something out. He could be
Speaker 1: at home. He could literally be at home now, not
Speaker 1: in a stadium. Pretended. This is this is when insurance
Speaker 1: comes in handy. You're a great host, Connie in your
Speaker 1: own right, I know you liked you liked the last
Speaker 1: seg Get ready for this one. Okay, okay, the brown
Speaker 1: should not have taken Baker Mayfield. The Jets should not
Speaker 1: have taken Sam Donald. You know who those teams should
Speaker 1: have taken the number thirty two overall pick in that draft.
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson Sex is obviously the star quarterback of the Ravens,
Speaker 1: a former m v P, the team's only hope to
Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl, and now he's likely out
Speaker 1: of the lineup. He suffered that knee injury that knocked
Speaker 1: him out of the win over the Broncos on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and uh, John Harbaugh seemed to be playing the game
Speaker 1: a little bit while also acknowledging that we ain't having
Speaker 1: him on the field. Uh in week fourteen, at the
Speaker 1: very earliest, I would say it's kind of week the
Speaker 1: week you know it's going to be a weekly thing.
Speaker 1: So um, as a week goes on, we'll see for
Speaker 1: this week, it's probably less likely for this week, but
Speaker 1: it's not impossible. Um, and then after that it will
Speaker 1: become more and more likely. Can Mark, Can I just
Speaker 1: say that we just looked at that press conference with
Speaker 1: John Harbow. We've been doing this a long time. We
Speaker 1: were talking before the show because Charlie Sheen comes up
Speaker 1: every week on this show in his studio. That we
Speaker 1: were in the old newsroom in Culver City when the
Speaker 1: Sheen madness went down in that summer of ten. Remember
Speaker 1: when John and Jim went to the Super Bowl the
Speaker 1: same year to the press conference and to get the
Speaker 1: press conference, and the old man was there. John. Now,
Speaker 1: you know, ten eleven years later, you're starting to see
Speaker 1: him look more like the old man. I guess that's
Speaker 1: what happens. It happens to you. It happens to you
Speaker 1: in your own life. Yeah, he's he's looking at like
Speaker 1: he's more stately. I thought he was wearing a let
Speaker 1: that sweat I was just looking at the sweatshirt he
Speaker 1: was wearing. Um, it's got to be cold in Baltimore
Speaker 1: and now just very cozy. You just wear that for
Speaker 1: like three days straight and don't even how about that
Speaker 1: passage of time? I agree that the past old. Mark
Speaker 1: Sanchez pointed that out during a broadcast. Mark Sante with
Speaker 1: alarm alarming John, Joe god Grave, jigger just destroyed you there,
Speaker 1: he sniped, you the Alliance. Now I like acting to
Speaker 1: look like and no, I I take it as a
Speaker 1: compliment that were a news ready. I mean he got
Speaker 1: to us quickly. He's remember the megapowers explode over Elizabeth. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what just happened here. We're stronger than that. We
Speaker 1: had a great night. Embarrassing for you. Greg. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: a good point. Graver helped me out with the Monday
Speaker 1: Night recap. Last night fun game that was Bucks. It's
Speaker 1: all over Never Say Die. It was never Say die
Speaker 1: game for the Bucks. Let's uh focus on Lamar Jackson though.
Speaker 1: Does this team have any shot if he's gonna miss
Speaker 1: extended time? Because everybody loves to talk about um how
Speaker 1: they have a really good backup and type Huntley, But
Speaker 1: they did lose four or four five down the stretch
Speaker 1: here Connie last year. Are they just gonna repeat that
Speaker 1: if this happens again and Lamar misses extensive time? And
Speaker 1: we talked a little bit about this on the Power
Speaker 1: Rankings podcast, which you guys can check out and subscribe
Speaker 1: to and tell all your friends about. But this does
Speaker 1: have shades of twenty twenty one all over it. And
Speaker 1: the Ravens were struggling on offense before with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: So now they have Tyler Huntley, who's just a less
Speaker 1: dynamic Lamar Jackson. I mean, it is helpful that they
Speaker 1: don't have to change the offense a ton because he
Speaker 1: can move around with his legs. He is a similar style,
Speaker 1: but just not as good as Lamar Jackson. But that's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough for them now because I didn't feel
Speaker 1: good about them for a while. They're at Pittsburgh, at Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and then Atlanta. I would think based on the way
Speaker 1: Harbor was talking, Lamar Jackson would be back either during
Speaker 1: that stretcher or after it. That's a that's a manageable stretch.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I look at them as underdogs this week.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're consistent running team with Lamar. They
Speaker 1: just don't have They're just so short on weapons. Everything
Speaker 1: we said about the Packers, everyone was so worried about
Speaker 1: this year, Like you can multiply that with the Ravens
Speaker 1: passing attackt Duvernade doesn't look as explosive as he used to.
Speaker 1: They really don't have a wide receiver. They just have
Speaker 1: like Andrews and now backup quarterback maybe Arcasa should just
Speaker 1: be fortunate that Mike Vrabel isn't his head coach. Well,
Speaker 1: I get to the Ravens have Also, it's the Titans
Speaker 1: Super Bowl rings. You know, there's I don't think it'll
Speaker 1: be like last year with them falling out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: But the Bengals pretty if they don't. They don't have
Speaker 1: playmakers they could trust to help the backup quarterback. And
Speaker 1: we've seen that defense crumble and crunched on multiple times
Speaker 1: this year, Like, what's there? Well, I think the thing
Speaker 1: is if you're gonna get Lamar back in like three weeks,
Speaker 1: say so you let's say you take two of three
Speaker 1: against Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Atlanta, which is very feasible, You're fine.
Speaker 1: And also Tyler Huntley, I don't think it's a bad
Speaker 1: backup man. I think Tyler Huntley. I'm not saying he's perfect,
Speaker 1: but the one thing they have going for him is
Speaker 1: he they don't have a totally different type of quarterback
Speaker 1: that they're inserting in in their offense, which is the
Speaker 1: more likely scenario. Well, I already told you they're not
Speaker 1: winning the division, so they're trying to sneak in as
Speaker 1: a wild card. We'll see. I mean, yes, I said
Speaker 1: the Bengals on Sunday are winning the division. You have
Speaker 1: to remember everything Mark says opinion wise on football. That's
Speaker 1: true for me too. You have to remember every take
Speaker 1: I've had. I would say it was healthy fifty Dan
Speaker 1: those three games, I think, uh, it's fifty fifty whether
Speaker 1: they got two and one or one in analysis, you
Speaker 1: know everything. Losing Pittsburgh and then at Brown's Falcons, decent
Speaker 1: chance you can sweep those. But when maybe dealing with
Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter. By the time they play the Falcons, I'm
Speaker 1: looking into the crystal ball. Two out of three they
Speaker 1: drops and lamar it could be a one week injury.
Speaker 1: They say PCL injuries are like one to three weeks,
Speaker 1: and we'll see. That's what Zack Wilson head your finally
Speaker 1: in the news. Uh, this this O'Dell story is turning
Speaker 1: it to farce? Um Just is I mean, is it
Speaker 1: getting a little bit funky smelling to anyone else at
Speaker 1: this point? Beckham, who's going on the free agent tories
Speaker 1: all over the place, but he's not working out for anybody,
Speaker 1: and he still wants to get a deal that signs
Speaker 1: him through. That doesn't quite add up for me and
Speaker 1: Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said he's quote not confident at
Speaker 1: all in Odell Beckham's knee health. Let's hear what he
Speaker 1: said on k r l D in Dallas recently. You know,
Speaker 1: I just think this is an opportunity that is rare
Speaker 1: because of his availability. But there's gonna be one way
Speaker 1: or the other. There's not a failure here. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about the actual signing or not signing. There's not disappointment here. Uh.
Speaker 1: If this thing works, it will improve this team now,
Speaker 1: it'll improve it this year. Uh. If we uh don't
Speaker 1: don't have that, then we're in a positive situation as well.
Speaker 1: It has to improve us now. And uh, you know
Speaker 1: that's uh that's a pretty tall order. And he's enjoyed,
Speaker 1: always says, not only this year, but as it impacts
Speaker 1: the years he was the speaking of the old newsroom days.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna say, right, his cadence is so
Speaker 1: halting that he's the one guy that you can transcribe
Speaker 1: without having to stop your recorder over and over again.
Speaker 1: When also he um he would do that radio show
Speaker 1: every week, and so no matter what he'd say, he
Speaker 1: could do a nursery rhyme and we post a news
Speaker 1: story about it because it was the Cowboys and those
Speaker 1: long quotes. You have to sit there and transcribe it.
Speaker 1: Take like forty five minutes for to your point that
Speaker 1: he just wanders left and right, but there'd be no punctuations,
Speaker 1: dot dots that keeps going up and down, semi colon ellipses.
Speaker 1: He really takes you behind the curtain. Yeah. Ralph Vaciano
Speaker 1: also reported that there is quote considerable doubt that Beckham
Speaker 1: can even return to play this year. So what are
Speaker 1: you doing? That explains everything? And his first day everything.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened on that plane, but most
Speaker 1: now that doesn't that's not explain He was at the
Speaker 1: Mavericks game. I don't have a great time last night.
Speaker 1: I know he's having a good time. But if you're
Speaker 1: not healthy, these teams through this. I mean I know
Speaker 1: that it's everything is about yourself that in this world
Speaker 1: right now, but it's like you're oh, b J, and
Speaker 1: you're flying around you're not healthy and teams are discovering
Speaker 1: that on the fly. You're wasting everyone's time. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: is wasted time. Let's move on breaking news. Hello. I
Speaker 1: love when it happens during the show, so we're not
Speaker 1: lamenting it on text. Immediately after, Baker Mayfield has been
Speaker 1: claimed by the Los Angeles Rams Rams, who have sent,
Speaker 1: of course, Matthew Stafford to I R with that neck issue.
Speaker 1: They have Um Walford, John Walford at quarterback. He was
Speaker 1: you know, he's also hurt. He got hurt late in
Speaker 1: that game. So Walford's banged up and they need a body.
Speaker 1: This maybe not put too much into a Connie. It's
Speaker 1: a team that needs a warm body, and Baker is that.
Speaker 1: But Baker in Los Angeles looks like it's a thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And well, if if the Niners didn't already sign someone,
Speaker 1: I would have thought immediately that this was just a
Speaker 1: move to block Baker from going to the nine, because
Speaker 1: that's how my petty brain works. It wouldn't help them.
Speaker 1: It also helps the Baker on the team, but more
Speaker 1: so one by the way, the amortized amount, which again
Speaker 1: might not be the right word, one point three five million,
Speaker 1: so they'll have to pay the rest of the year.
Speaker 1: It's about next year. Greg make up the world. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a real word. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm using it. Well, it means like, you know, averaging
Speaker 1: ere this topic again and that's not I don't like
Speaker 1: what they did at ESPN sending out Baker in a
Speaker 1: Ram's uniform. It's clearly John Wolford, and they put doesn't
Speaker 1: seem did Wolford give his right should use his body
Speaker 1: in that way to put his body below babe were
Speaker 1: the head? Uh, this podcast is never gonna I don't
Speaker 1: think this move happens if Matthew Stafford isn't potentially done
Speaker 1: in terms of his career. This is a two thousand
Speaker 1: and twenty three move they have to see. They want
Speaker 1: to see if Baker Mayfield could potentially be part of
Speaker 1: the mix next year, either competing for a job or
Speaker 1: a backup or anything else. I hope they're not putting
Speaker 1: too much, too many eggs in this Baker basket. No,
Speaker 1: they're not based on everything we've been talking. It's free,
Speaker 1: you know, just we can see them out on the town.
Speaker 1: Though there was there was a period where there were
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield billboards in Los Angeles that everyone was making
Speaker 1: fun of on text. It was really through me when
Speaker 1: I saw it on the four oh five. It just
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense to me. Why you have quarter
Speaker 1: you have Matthew Stafford here in town. You have other
Speaker 1: athletes and celebrities. Didn't Baker Mayfield on the side of
Speaker 1: the four oh five, Well now it does. You named
Speaker 1: famously your son Cold after Colt McCoy. Imagine you had
Speaker 1: a son that lined up with Baker's draft. That's a
Speaker 1: pretty decent sticker. Sessler would have been a thing. Now
Speaker 1: I stopped draft or naming children after Brown's quarterbacks after
Speaker 1: one one of them. Also, my last child universe could
Speaker 1: have been Johnny a Johnny Sessler too, and that would
Speaker 1: have been Jacoby, Jacoby if it was like a week
Speaker 1: seven baby you this year, you know, before this job, Sessler,
Speaker 1: I kind of like, kind of anyway, there's still there's
Speaker 1: still a chance. So we're talking Backham, we're talking may
Speaker 1: Let's talk about some guys that matter when we get back.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news. By from the Christal's
Speaker 1: podcast studio in Inglewood, California. It's America's favorite game show.
Speaker 1: More all right, welcome back. Wow, this is a this
Speaker 1: studio audience is hyped for one of the I call
Speaker 1: him a legacy. Segs just certainly is the legacy drop
Speaker 1: from the Philly Country Club, that we will Poconos, that
Speaker 1: we will resurface in time. But right now we're gonna
Speaker 1: focus on what's more likely. As we look at there
Speaker 1: are five weeks remaining, ladies and gentlemen in the regular season,
Speaker 1: and we are going to lay out two different scenarios.
Speaker 1: And as the game title should key you in on,
Speaker 1: you admortize it, and you have what's more likely scenario.
Speaker 1: So let's get it going. Who wants to start? Here
Speaker 1: we go, Colleen, I'm game show from Philadelphia. A here
Speaker 1: we go, c the applause. Oh wait, there we go. So,
Speaker 1: after a season drenched in turmoil and chaos, both Nathaniel
Speaker 1: Hackett and Steve Wilkes return as head coaches next season,
Speaker 1: or both Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers ghost the Graybeards
Speaker 1: and returned for at least another season as starters with
Speaker 1: their current teams. And that is the real what's more likely?
Speaker 1: From a live show in London, I love that. That's
Speaker 1: pretty good sold out. I'm gonna go Brady and Rogers
Speaker 1: because you know, I think they love I think they
Speaker 1: both love to toy, especially Rogers with this court me
Speaker 1: all off season, every time I speak we're gonna have
Speaker 1: to you have to write a news story or talk
Speaker 1: about on your little podcast whether everything I'd say. And
Speaker 1: Brady just probably does not want to go do that
Speaker 1: announcing thing right now, which sounds like something he might
Speaker 1: never do. So one more year of football and maybe
Speaker 1: not with the Bucks, but with a whole different team.
Speaker 1: He said it had to be the same team. Well,
Speaker 1: but I'll even say, Bucks, you wonder, you wonder if,
Speaker 1: without digging into the man's personal life, how much of
Speaker 1: that I'm agreeing to do the announcing thing. I'm setting
Speaker 1: that up was in deference to amortize his wife, you know,
Speaker 1: and to get what I would say, family, the family
Speaker 1: structure in the future of the Brady family. And you wonder.
Speaker 1: Now his life is in a very different place, obviously
Speaker 1: than where it was when he signed that Fox deal.
Speaker 1: I'll say this living in the moment. But that's what
Speaker 1: we do on the show sometimes that Hacket and Hackett
Speaker 1: is gone. I mean, he's as good as Gun's. That's
Speaker 1: what it really makes this and Rogers um, I really
Speaker 1: think a strong finish from Rogers, and I think it
Speaker 1: matters in a way. I was thinking about this the
Speaker 1: Christian Watson turning into a big star potentially here. That
Speaker 1: gives them something to have hope, and then Rogers can
Speaker 1: talk with management and say, all right, now go get
Speaker 1: me a big receiver. I pair him with Watson, makes
Speaker 1: some fixes on this tea, and let's go for it again.
Speaker 1: I that one is surprised me and Brady's not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: That's way more like I think it's I think it's
Speaker 1: more likely Rogers and Brady. But let's break it down,
Speaker 1: hack it, and that's why that's less likely. Wilkes got
Speaker 1: a real chance. I think it might be even close
Speaker 1: to fifty, especially if they win three out of the
Speaker 1: last five. I think he's back, and I think there's
Speaker 1: a chance they do win three out of the last five,
Speaker 1: so he's got a chance. But Hacket just eliminates that. Rogers.
Speaker 1: That's close to fifty fifty as well. I think how
Speaker 1: Jordan's love plays will be an interesting thing to watch.
Speaker 1: I think they want to see. But ultimately I would
Speaker 1: lean that that's higher than fifty fifty. He returns Brady.
Speaker 1: I think it's way lower than fifty fifty. That he's
Speaker 1: on the bucks. I think he's playing football and that
Speaker 1: he's a free agent, and there's little in Tampa to
Speaker 1: me that would indicate that he would want to go
Speaker 1: back there. Team. I think the Las Vegas Raiders make
Speaker 1: a lot of sense for Tom Brady, but I think
Speaker 1: there could be other teams. What about the Patriots? No
Speaker 1: that when that was thrown out in just a random
Speaker 1: like well, you know what, I just love that sound
Speaker 1: because it's just this Greg is absolutely sort of the
Speaker 1: future in the NFL. Not so if the NFL so bizarre,
Speaker 1: then when that happens, we'll just play that a thousand
Speaker 1: times because it's not it's nothing's out of nothing. You
Speaker 1: haven't been this mad about it, take since I said
Speaker 1: I didn't want Russell Wilson. It's just there's definitive knowledge
Speaker 1: where it's like we don't happened, like he could go anywhere.
Speaker 1: It's an opinion, but I think if you think about
Speaker 1: the two men involved, Tom Brady and Bill Belichick, I
Speaker 1: just don't think they're gonna want to work together again
Speaker 1: and go through that all again. Or they can say
Speaker 1: a f you to everyone that thinks that has thought
Speaker 1: they can't get along, and they go back and win
Speaker 1: another AFC title. I'm gonna have to ask Wickersham on
Speaker 1: that one. But I think Rogers and Brady's played football
Speaker 1: again next year. Um where they end up landing whatever?
Speaker 1: That's that's yeah, that feels like a coin flip, but
Speaker 1: hack it, and I don't think. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: see the temperature on Steve Wilkes, Well, I think he
Speaker 1: has a shot. I thought about including Wilkes in my
Speaker 1: next one. So and then he wasn't at the last
Speaker 1: second because of a result from last night. Go ahead,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna throw a transition there here not as
Speaker 1: good as my transitions earlier. He wasn't even trying. I
Speaker 1: was just saying, let's go. You've been advertised, all right. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Raiders, you've been advertized one, have one two straight.
Speaker 1: They're at five and seven there, two back of the Jets.
Speaker 1: They would probably have to take the Jets out of
Speaker 1: the Raiders end up making the playoffs, or the team
Speaker 1: of around the NFL Detroit Lions, who would have a
Speaker 1: five game winning streak right now, if not for a
Speaker 1: beautiful throw by Josh Allen make the playoffs. Well, let's
Speaker 1: start with the schedules. You know, Raiders Zeus has been
Speaker 1: pumping up the rate. Thank you, Zeus has been pumping
Speaker 1: up the Raiders as a team that could surprise people
Speaker 1: and get back in the mix. If they get the
Speaker 1: Rams win, that gets them to six and seven. Uh.
Speaker 1: If then they go host New England winnable at Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: winnable all of a sudden, the home game that we
Speaker 1: just checked off as a loss against San Francisco, well,
Speaker 1: let's see, let's see what the quarterback can do in
Speaker 1: San Francisco and then home against Kansas City, who knows
Speaker 1: what's on the line. Uh. Then, so the Raiders have
Speaker 1: a path to nine and eight, I think. And then
Speaker 1: other team is the Lions at the Lions of Lions,
Speaker 1: also five and seven. They have home against Minnesota. We
Speaker 1: talked about some power Kings County. It is so imperative, Greggy,
Speaker 1: that the Lions win on Sunday against the Vikings, because
Speaker 1: if they don't, that's the eighth loss and it's just
Speaker 1: not happening. But if they do, I do think they
Speaker 1: do grab that last spot in the hold card playoffs.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say the Lions are more likely, but
Speaker 1: it all hinges on the favored By the way, Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions beating the Tenant to Vic like Kirk Cousins calling
Speaker 1: this already a hat and T shirt game because they
Speaker 1: win the division if they win the game, don't like
Speaker 1: do not like that? But yeah, but you don't. Why
Speaker 1: go throw around that verbally, just let it be under
Speaker 1: under the surface. We know that is I'm going Lions. Well,
Speaker 1: the Lions have a big game every week, right, and
Speaker 1: their next game is against the New York Jets in
Speaker 1: the Meadowlands at Carolina, and then home for Chicago and
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. So those are all winnable games. There's
Speaker 1: a better chance that a nine and eight team gets
Speaker 1: the seven seed. I believe in the NFC rather than
Speaker 1: the a f C. Starting to see. IM think the
Speaker 1: Lions are a little better than the Raiders, and uh,
Speaker 1: I think the nine and eight team making it is
Speaker 1: more possible. I could see the Lions winning three in
Speaker 1: a row, getting us very jazzed up, and then losing
Speaker 1: two games. They absolute he never he never was on board,
Speaker 1: never on the train, pretends he's on the train either
Speaker 1: one and if not them, the Raiders. Like this daddy was,
Speaker 1: you know, was giving us on the head with the
Speaker 1: Lions and then but he doesn't really believe in us.
Speaker 1: I think it's amazing you think I have that power.
Speaker 1: I'm just suggesting, and we don't consider scenarios of them gagging.
Speaker 1: Then they'll go five and oh and they beat your
Speaker 1: Jets like you that's for Lions. Just like to be
Speaker 1: consistent here. I said that the Lions are going to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs on power rank, but I do think
Speaker 1: they will, just based on the momentum they have right now.
Speaker 1: They started one and six, but a lot of those
Speaker 1: games were close. Then they reeled off three straight wins.
Speaker 1: They lost by three points to the Bills on Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: so they almost had that one. Then they crushed the Jags.
Speaker 1: I think they think they can do it. Can I
Speaker 1: just say, margotta want to be too passionate about the
Speaker 1: Lions thing. But this tank, this team of a t
Speaker 1: N tank runs on positivity and optimism. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: want to be controlled by by I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: just hold what I have to do. From a fans perspective,
Speaker 1: that's absurd. Why do you need to control someone else's emotions.
Speaker 1: I'm just hurts. It hurts. I don't believe you have
Speaker 1: anything inside. We hear in the mentions the Lions fans
Speaker 1: who don't want to hear manufactured emotions. That that is
Speaker 1: I think where it's this is coming from, because we're
Speaker 1: hearing a lot in the menation from Lions fans. He said,
Speaker 1: thank you Dan, thank you Greg for believing in us
Speaker 1: all along. And then that other there's that other guy.
Speaker 1: That's unbelievable. But I mean, it's not even like the
Speaker 1: minute I walk out of the studio, it is. It
Speaker 1: isn't even water, it's evaporated. It's a complete missed into missed.
Speaker 1: All right, So let me let's transition to the Uh,
Speaker 1: if we're talking NFC, let me just throw another one
Speaker 1: out there, because we're all penciling in certain teams in
Speaker 1: the NFC. Oh, they have a spot, so you can't,
Speaker 1: oh like a team like the Lines. Oh, they can
Speaker 1: only get the seventh spot. They can never get there.
Speaker 1: There's no way there's multiple wild card spots there to
Speaker 1: be had by Wigged advertised this advertise that how about
Speaker 1: this brock Purty goes full Warner and goes with the
Speaker 1: forty nine all the way to the Super Bowl. And
Speaker 1: can you imagine his media night scrum the chump in
Speaker 1: the waters for that human interest story? Oh, Mr irrelevant,
Speaker 1: quite the contrary, isn't it, Brock You'll be tired of
Speaker 1: it by then. What a story though? Or and why
Speaker 1: I bring it up? The Niners crater with an overburdened
Speaker 1: neo fight QB and they are fighting for their playoff
Speaker 1: lives come week eighteen versus the Cardinals. Now you're gonna
Speaker 1: say that's ridiculous. The Niners, Oh yeah, the Niners are
Speaker 1: too good. There's there's no They're so balanced on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. Kyle Shanahan's gonna figure it out.
Speaker 1: Brock Party was the final pick in the draft. He
Speaker 1: is a seventh round rookie who has all of a
Speaker 1: sudden been thrust into a Super Ball Super Bowl competition,
Speaker 1: a race. This is not where he was supposed to.
Speaker 1: It's not fair to ask Brock Party Party to be
Speaker 1: successful in this situation. If he does, it's an amazing story.
Speaker 1: But you look at this remaining schedule, Tampa Bay up next.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of the Bucks, so
Speaker 1: let's be honest, but they are not going to be
Speaker 1: an easy game. That's not an easy simple at Seattle.
Speaker 1: We know Seattle is a tough, a tough game, especially
Speaker 1: on the road. Okay, home Washington. All right, you're the
Speaker 1: favorite there, Washington US to travel. But Washington is a
Speaker 1: tough those some tough s obs there on the commanders
Speaker 1: at Vegas. We just talked about the Raiders. That's a
Speaker 1: team that is playing well. So is it possible what's
Speaker 1: their record right now? Is it possible that they run
Speaker 1: into a lot of turbulence and all of a sudden
Speaker 1: need that win against the Cardinals. What's more likely? I mean,
Speaker 1: you're asking what's more likely. I know what I want
Speaker 1: to happen. I think brock Purty running the table or
Speaker 1: getting them into the playoffs and then having a Jeff
Speaker 1: host Hostetler Kurt Warner would be the greatest sports story
Speaker 1: we've ever covered, and it probably will continue to be
Speaker 1: for the rest of our lives. But can I just
Speaker 1: even say that we use those those examples Hostetler with
Speaker 1: the Giants and ninety um Warner with the Rams and
Speaker 1: two thousand, like those guys like Warner who'd been through wars,
Speaker 1: he has been he had been through you know, the
Speaker 1: Arena League and all that stuff. Hostetler is a young backup.
Speaker 1: This guy is a raw green rookie with actually used
Speaker 1: Warner in your example That's what I'm saying, Like even
Speaker 1: that even those don't exactly track to what we're asking,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, I think we all would
Speaker 1: want that. But I think it's much more likely that
Speaker 1: the Niners, who were a couple of weeks ago just
Speaker 1: sitting at six and four before they beat a bad
Speaker 1: Saints team and then the Dolphins thing happened. It's much
Speaker 1: more likely than as well coached as they are and
Speaker 1: they have a lot of strengths, that they're basically playing
Speaker 1: four potential playoff teams over the rest of the schedule,
Speaker 1: then would need to go and play the gauntlet of
Speaker 1: three NFC teams, if not four, to get to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Uh, it's much more likely that they create her.
Speaker 1: I don't think that will happen. I think it's more
Speaker 1: likely that that that Black Party one wins a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl of of one of of those two options. I
Speaker 1: kind of liked what I saw out of Party there.
Speaker 1: We've seen Kyle Shannon coach up offensive talent. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: he's not going to carry the load. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of it an example like you mentioned of a
Speaker 1: quarterback being carried along. Tom Brady in two thousand one
Speaker 1: as a second year player, was draft it in the
Speaker 1: sixth round and certainly wasn't was carried along every starter.
Speaker 1: Even that's a little bit of it. When you're using
Speaker 1: Tom Brady as the example, it's like a once in
Speaker 1: a lifetime situation the way that played. That's fair. Um,
Speaker 1: but I still think it's the forty Niners making a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. But what if it wasn't brock Purty starting
Speaker 1: in the Super Bow? What if there was a Brady
Speaker 1: bledsoe uh controversy Because I've got some developing news that's
Speaker 1: out of retirement Tom Brady traded sources have told ESPN's
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter that Jimmy Garoppolo does not need foot surgery.
Speaker 1: If rehab goes well, he could return in seven to
Speaker 1: eight weeks. Do the math where five weeks from the playoffs,
Speaker 1: it's a possibility he could contribute in the playoffs possibility,
Speaker 1: So we get you know what, that's good, that's great.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for Jimmy g. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna see a physically hampered, in limited Garoppolo
Speaker 1: in January, also into the NFC title game. Then they
Speaker 1: do one of those things like different starter now plays
Speaker 1: super important playoff game. The thing crumbles Purdy gets that far.
Speaker 1: If it's really seven to eight weeks and they're in
Speaker 1: the divisional round, unless they've somehow gotten there with Party
Speaker 1: playing Poorland, I feel like you'd be ridden the Purty chain. Now. Well,
Speaker 1: now we can more closely follow the Brady history on that,
Speaker 1: because Brady did replace an injured Bledsoe, had the job
Speaker 1: into and through the playoffs until he got hurt. In
Speaker 1: THEFC title game. Bledsoe comes off the bench, helps get
Speaker 1: him the dub, and then Brady back in the lineup
Speaker 1: for the super Bowl. Just haven't Garoppolo in the building
Speaker 1: and active. That would be better than what they have.
Speaker 1: Who's backing up Rock Purty right now? Jo Sean just
Speaker 1: signed to if it's get to the super Bowl with
Speaker 1: Purdy or or maybe be fighting for a playoff spot.
Speaker 1: At this point, it's fighting for a playoff spot. Greg
Speaker 1: That throw to get back in the end zone by
Speaker 1: Drew Bledsoe against the Steelers who caught it JFC Title
Speaker 1: Game two thousand one is David Patton. Huh, good job?
Speaker 1: I was testing you. Great moment. I mean, especially as
Speaker 1: someone to where bled so kind of ended their uh
Speaker 1: string of terrible quarterbacks, and so he had a lot
Speaker 1: of fondness for the man. It was a nice moment.
Speaker 1: I was like, that's what was one in the Super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Uh so I might not be rounds right unless he
Speaker 1: had the punt returns. That was Troy Brown. Okay, who
Speaker 1: is up? Mark? You are up? All right? Did you?
Speaker 1: Didn't you just go? I did? But I was third? Okay,
Speaker 1: don't don't worry about it. Would you like me to
Speaker 1: David Patton, big game player? David Patt the lock Father's Unite,
Speaker 1: that's your name? At this point, I don't even recall
Speaker 1: where the look fathers. That's right, Okay, get out of here,
Speaker 1: all right. Russell Wilson's camp leaks and various whisper campaign
Speaker 1: that places him in a favorable light while setting up
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett as an obvious fall guy. This will be
Speaker 1: fleshed out with ugly behind the scenes details that make
Speaker 1: Hackett look like a disorganized loon and have people suddenly
Speaker 1: empathizing with Wilson's plight. You know this isn't being run
Speaker 1: like an NFL offense and team, et cetera. Russ was
Speaker 1: never given a chance and has kept a smile on
Speaker 1: his face the whole time. The vibe here is that
Speaker 1: even we are compelled to give Wilson another shot under
Speaker 1: a new staff, and he somehow escapes major blame during
Speaker 1: the very long off season ahead. Or and I'm not
Speaker 1: going Kyler Murray here, which seems like the obvious other
Speaker 1: side b but no, we get reports to us, obviously
Speaker 1: coming from Matt Jones's camp, the paint behind the scenes
Speaker 1: situation in New England, namely the offensive coaching staff Matt Patricia,
Speaker 1: Joe Judge, you know, Bobert, mcbobby, whoever is doing the
Speaker 1: plays over there as an absolute mad house that leads
Speaker 1: to Matt Jones. The Patriots are just as an absolute
Speaker 1: madhouse where it's like this Belichick guy maybe just botched
Speaker 1: this whole thing, and it ends up to Matt Jones
Speaker 1: playing somewhere else in three. This will not work traded, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely taking the first one because the first one
Speaker 1: was one of my sandwich props this year, which I'm
Speaker 1: feeling good about, was the Broncos missed the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: we have a sourced report of differences between Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: and Nathaniel Hackett, uh, and I could see that happy.
Speaker 1: You're kind of this is also that we come out
Speaker 1: thinking that, oh, you know what, we have a feeling
Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson was kind of the good guy in
Speaker 1: all this where he kept on a happy face, not
Speaker 1: just battery. We we already get that Nathaniel hacketts a disaster, right.
Speaker 1: We haven't had those reports yet and Hackett's probably gone.
Speaker 1: We have seen a little bit of that. I think
Speaker 1: pushed back in Denver about how Russell was, including from
Speaker 1: his teammates, has handled everything, not like he's been unprofessional.
Speaker 1: He's trying his best and all that stuff. But that's
Speaker 1: way more likely to me because I think mac Jones,
Speaker 1: even if he is unhappy, which he kind of seems unhappy,
Speaker 1: and there was some talk about that, I just don't
Speaker 1: think he's gonna play that game where he's like trying
Speaker 1: to take down the greatest coach of all time through
Speaker 1: It's not day. Samuel did it and he was fine
Speaker 1: with it. He's still doing it. It's happened over the
Speaker 1: years here and there, but I don't think mac Jones
Speaker 1: is gonna do it. I could be aimed at mat Patricia,
Speaker 1: which I think a lot of people would make an
Speaker 1: easy target out of and your mac Jones's career is
Speaker 1: on the brink right now. If this is how it's
Speaker 1: gonna stay, Yeah, I think, like with with the Bronco situation,
Speaker 1: the idea that you would need to drum up some
Speaker 1: type of media campaign against Hackett would be like some
Speaker 1: investigative reporters spending twelve months investigating that. The tone is
Speaker 1: that we spend the off season thinking Russell Wilson definitely
Speaker 1: deserves a second chance, but it doesn't. Right now, we
Speaker 1: don't think that about a story because Russell Wilson's not
Speaker 1: going anywhere and be he's not gonna lose his job
Speaker 1: like I think they have to have it. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get a second year. And I think it's it's Hackett
Speaker 1: that's the easy guy to just cut loose and saying
Speaker 1: all right, that was bad, this this will work better.
Speaker 1: Russell will be better with this guy. That's gonna be
Speaker 1: We we view Russell Wilson's career is over and the
Speaker 1: Broncos is sabotaged by the worst in house move they've
Speaker 1: ever made in our lifetime, versus a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: from now, Oh you know what, I'm kind of ready
Speaker 1: to give Russell Wilson a second chance and a big
Speaker 1: mulligan on that Nathaniel Hacker disaster. That's what the reporting
Speaker 1: would come because Russell Wilson has done that. He'd attempted
Speaker 1: to do that with the Seahawks in various ways. I
Speaker 1: think the Broncos they have to make it work with
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. But I understand how you're talking about a
Speaker 1: PR campaign to help Wilson's image at this point, but
Speaker 1: also he's not good at PR campaigns Russell Wilson, and
Speaker 1: the tape has been so bad on Russell Wilson that
Speaker 1: there's no way anybody would it would be credible that
Speaker 1: it was the coach's fault. This year, I almost think
Speaker 1: it's gone so poorly and they are the worst offense
Speaker 1: in terms of scoring points in twenty two years. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's how it that I'm almost worried, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: hit my sandwich prop because he doesn't even need to
Speaker 1: put source reports out there. That's what I means. Going
Speaker 1: any ways, it is a mess, and mac Jones is
Speaker 1: frustrated like everyone else that follows the Patriots with the
Speaker 1: play calling. I think they're gonna make some fixes there,
Speaker 1: and and Jones will be back as well. So I
Speaker 1: think it's way more likely that. Shoot, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't think, but Wilson, Wilson's camp undermindes, the head coach,
Speaker 1: just feels that's more likely. Just unnecessary. All right, one
Speaker 1: more quick one happen to speed round? Okay, this one
Speaker 1: involves a real quick Oh wait, it was Mark. We
Speaker 1: only went around once that time. Do you want to
Speaker 1: just cut out? You want to get out of now?
Speaker 1: Let's do it quick. Alright, it's fun, it's fun, all right,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Tom Brady is announcing games for Fox next year,
Speaker 1: and so we already kind of hit Brady or at
Speaker 1: least three of the four hosts on this podcast attend
Speaker 1: the NFL Christmas party. Alright, there's there are there we
Speaker 1: go football next year. Just talking about the host, it's
Speaker 1: way more likely that the three of us attend the
Speaker 1: NFL Christmas Party. Yeah, I'm a company woman, Okay, I
Speaker 1: think I think, I think, you know, I think four
Speaker 1: is possible. Yeah, where's it at again? Top off? Three
Speaker 1: or four? Four or four? Somewhere in between there? Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just all right, how about this one very awkward there, No,
Speaker 1: I think that's an easy one. I think got to
Speaker 1: slam dunk. How about this one? Along those lines, Sean
Speaker 1: McVeigh and Sean Payton switched places McVeigh to TV for
Speaker 1: big money, Peyton to the Rams to rebuild the fallen
Speaker 1: champions or the Seahawks get out. While they getting is
Speaker 1: good on Gino. They allow him to get that big
Speaker 1: contract he deserves in free agency, while Seattle can follow
Speaker 1: their old game plan from back in the day, draft
Speaker 1: a quarterback that they can control financially, and then build
Speaker 1: an elite roster around the ladder. If the buzzer too
Speaker 1: seeing the ladder, because I think that's what their plan
Speaker 1: was all along. As nice as the Geno stories has been,
Speaker 1: I think the ladder is more likely because I just
Speaker 1: don't see the McVeigh Peyton thing possibly happening. That would
Speaker 1: be a bad job, the Rams job, and I don't
Speaker 1: think Sean Paine's take it. And then I also think
Speaker 1: because he leveraged interest in from Amazon into a massive
Speaker 1: raise from the Rams last year, I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna quit now. I think that was a bit of
Speaker 1: a commitment to make that move, Like if you're gonna
Speaker 1: make that move, you gotta stick around. So I don't
Speaker 1: see them trading now. I never thought the Sehawks would
Speaker 1: take like a quarterback high though. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll wants defensive players right, he wants to take
Speaker 1: second to be a good quarterback. Draft Geno would be
Speaker 1: a very tricky free agent because some will pay him
Speaker 1: huge money and is will the Seahawks, like give him
Speaker 1: a Ryan Tannehill thirty million a year type deal, Like
Speaker 1: we'll see someone will and if it might not be
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, they get a new quarterback. Okay, here we go. Uh,
Speaker 1: what's more likely the Steelers rally winning four of their
Speaker 1: last five to finish the season with a winning record
Speaker 1: and preserve Mike tomlin streak of sixteen straight non losing seasons,
Speaker 1: or after eleven years of relentless effort, against all odds
Speaker 1: and against the wishes of everyone in this room, Dan
Speaker 1: successfully brings back into the zeitgeis Charlie Sheen's winning I
Speaker 1: do it alone? Or it's more a cultural thing that
Speaker 1: builds up in bubbles because there's got to be more people.
Speaker 1: Could be could be a bricklayer, and I mean it's
Speaker 1: her what's more likely winning. I feel like they're I'm
Speaker 1: not alone, you know what they say with the aliens
Speaker 1: out there, like we are not alone. I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm alone in wanting Sheen to once again grab the
Speaker 1: zeitgeis No. I think you're right, And we were talking
Speaker 1: about this before the show, so I happen to have
Speaker 1: this article up here. Charlie Sheen is annoyed by people
Speaker 1: like you. I think he People have said to me,
Speaker 1: hey man, that was cool. That was so fun to watch,
Speaker 1: that was cool to be a part of, and all
Speaker 1: that energy and support and sticking it to the man.
Speaker 1: And my thought is that, oh, yeah, great, I'm so
Speaker 1: glad that I traded early retirement for an effing hashtag.
Speaker 1: There were fifty five different ways for me to handle
Speaker 1: that situation, and I chose number fifty six. And it
Speaker 1: keeps going on that he calls it a melt down
Speaker 1: and it has a lot of regrets. I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess Charlie Sheen, like doing a heavy meth has gone
Speaker 1: worse for more people like you got something that um
Speaker 1: I think he uh, that was an extraordinary time in
Speaker 1: our history, and I think he's speaking to that, like
Speaker 1: how did that even happen helicopter surrounding my house. Uh,
Speaker 1: waiting on every word that was coming out of my mouth.
Speaker 1: I think that is more likely that it's back because
Speaker 1: the people like me wanted Chas Sheen at the center
Speaker 1: of the disco. I'd have to go. I'd have to
Speaker 1: agree with you heavily. I'm going Steelers for sure. If
Speaker 1: you look at the number last month or so, they're
Speaker 1: like a top ten team here. Mike Tomlins got them
Speaker 1: playing well. Yeah, they are getting better. Finally, Mark close
Speaker 1: it out, okay, very quick. Lovey Smith is retained as
Speaker 1: Texans coach or three parter Cliff Kingsbury is retained as
Speaker 1: Cardinals coach. Or Sean Payton becomes the Chargers coach. Oh uh,
Speaker 1: still learning how to set up the crowd there all
Speaker 1: these years, it's easier speaking of which everyone should join
Speaker 1: our crowd on January wedn it's just time we're listening
Speaker 1: to the people. And then when we do a live show,
Speaker 1: we've tried, we've done what's more likely. Sometimes in the crowd,
Speaker 1: remember when Mark was just like making them do it,
Speaker 1: even when it wasn't like the problem, it wasn't the question.
Speaker 1: He just wanted the power over the crowd. I don't
Speaker 1: even remember that the power, yeah, he said, I just
Speaker 1: like to feel the power. And so watch Mark feel
Speaker 1: the power ju in January eighteen the Bourbon Room in Hollywood.
Speaker 1: Tickets are going to sell out at some point, so
Speaker 1: don't wait until the end of Mark's question, because Greg
Speaker 1: Jamm did. In that transition, there's saying let's throw it in.
Speaker 1: I just you know, I felt like Mark was left
Speaker 1: hanging a little bit there. No one responded, I would
Speaker 1: like to thoughtfully respect you're welcome. I think that the
Speaker 1: most likely situation here is that Peyton is the Charger's
Speaker 1: head coach. In three. I love that it's super saucy.
Speaker 1: I do too. I like the idea of the Chargers
Speaker 1: doing better at that position, and most importantly, something that
Speaker 1: Sean Payton can't control, uh, just be healthier Charger is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think Cliff is I think Cliff
Speaker 1: would be number two on this list. Love he feels
Speaker 1: like he's probably not coming back. If he's probably not
Speaker 1: coming back, and I think the Brandon's Daley era is
Speaker 1: on the line these next two weeks, so he has
Speaker 1: the Dolphins Sunday night, and then he's got the Titans
Speaker 1: the week after that. The ski is pretty easy after that.
Speaker 1: But I think there's a chance they go oh and
Speaker 1: two here. I think their inferior in terms of the
Speaker 1: way they're playing to those two teams. If they follow
Speaker 1: the six and eight, they're not gonna Okay, I have
Speaker 1: a one, I have one more, Just a quick promis,
Speaker 1: Can I just say one thing. I understand the David
Speaker 1: Culley situation. They made the decision move on the Texans
Speaker 1: and higher Lovey Smith, a veteran who made it to
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl coach, but at no point where the
Speaker 1: Texans supposed to be even really competitive this year, I
Speaker 1: didn't think, and they're gonna fire him after one year. Two.
Speaker 1: You're also paying like fifty different people full contracts. I
Speaker 1: just don't understand why nobody's getting a second year when
Speaker 1: clearly this team is multiple years away from being competitive.
Speaker 1: But go ahead, college, Um, this one actually goes out
Speaker 1: to Mark Sessler. Okay, what's more likely? In a while
Speaker 1: turn of events, the Dolphins get into the mix. On
Speaker 1: the Odell Beckham World Tour, Mike McDaniels sends his best
Speaker 1: and brightest to the airport to show O b J
Speaker 1: what the three oh five is all about. First stop
Speaker 1: courtside seats to watch the heat, but in route of
Speaker 1: the game, disaster strikes as protesters outside f t X
Speaker 1: Arena swarm their car. Three hundred Crypto bros angry at
Speaker 1: Larry David for keeping them out of the board. Ape
Speaker 1: Yacht Club Surround two was BMX i ate fully loaded
Speaker 1: with options limited at this point to a cause. An
Speaker 1: audible scans the street searching for answers, dials up a
Speaker 1: prayer from Mike KASICKI, Mike, you at the game, gross,
Speaker 1: you're drinking eggnog. It's like eighty degrees out. Listen, I
Speaker 1: need a favor to us. Quick thinking pays off and
Speaker 1: impresses O'Dell with all hope appeared lost. Hundreds of drunk
Speaker 1: Santa's flood the arena parking lot. Oh Santa con Is
Speaker 1: this weekend, says Teddy Bridgewater from the back seat. Gasicky
Speaker 1: leads the pack of rabbit st Nick's sauced up on
Speaker 1: nog and jello shots, dancing like Jalen Waddle and one
Speaker 1: on one coverage and orchestrated bar Farama and sues covering
Speaker 1: the marauding Bitcoin bros. In filth Kausiki springs into action,
Speaker 1: helping to a Teddy and Odell and the Dolphins escape unscathed.
Speaker 1: Y'all crazy, I love Miami, says oh b J recalls
Speaker 1: the story at his introductory press conference the following morning.
Speaker 1: Or or Matt, Patricia is the Patriots head coach. See
Speaker 1: how you've you've done? Oh you destinedly Cat. I like that.
Speaker 1: There's no way the other thing can happened. So the
Speaker 1: it has to be Odell. That is the more likely scenario.
Speaker 1: There's literally no world where where Patricia is a head
Speaker 1: coach in our league ever. Again, I love that you
Speaker 1: first of all, don't I'm glad we didn't get out
Speaker 1: of this show without you reading that. That would have
Speaker 1: been the loss. That was a masterpiece. And um, there's
Speaker 1: a ghost there's a ghostwriter behind the glass that contributed
Speaker 1: to that. You don't have to say that. So we're
Speaker 1: learning something today that we don't have to always say
Speaker 1: things just so it makes us look better, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I thought that it would be important to shop
Speaker 1: this person out. It was a it was a collaboration.
Speaker 1: Well we have not named the name, so it could
Speaker 1: be were geting. It's a six ft seven man who
Speaker 1: wears a mask and does not speak. I'm going the
Speaker 1: Odell scenario because I think Belichick, when he leaves, is
Speaker 1: going to hand it off to one of his children.
Speaker 1: He's gonna hand enof to Steve, the namesake of the
Speaker 1: book Flying the Ointment though it's no, it's they're trying
Speaker 1: to take the FDx name off of it. You know,
Speaker 1: they are suing. They don't have any money to pay
Speaker 1: the money. It was a hundred and thirty five million
Speaker 1: dollars amortized over nineteen years. There's no way that was right,
Speaker 1: but I think it might have been. It was that
Speaker 1: one was Santa Santa all sorts of angles here. I've
Speaker 1: been to it. I walked into a Santa con in
Speaker 1: Northern cal one time, and it was one of the
Speaker 1: weirdest three hour stretches of my life. I wasn't dressed
Speaker 1: as that figure, but I was just wandering. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and hit Thursday Night Football. Alright.
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Speaker 1: across the street on Thursday, uh for you know a
Speaker 1: game that on paper looked very good a game, it
Speaker 1: is a game. It is the Raiders who've spoken of
Speaker 1: that are on the on a run right now, looking
Speaker 1: to make it for in a row. And the Rams,
Speaker 1: who I guess could have Connie and you you handle
Speaker 1: coverage of Thursday night football on NFL Network. The Rams
Speaker 1: that might have Baker Mayfield on the field, I don't
Speaker 1: know who knows. I'm a couple of times during that
Speaker 1: previous show and indicated he could maybe play Thursday, which
Speaker 1: seems like gotta get Baker on the field with no
Speaker 1: practice reps, having not even knowing the names of his teammates. Okay, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I mean this is the m J D bowl Um
Speaker 1: who will be on the show with us and then
Speaker 1: go over and do the Rams radio. But the Raiders
Speaker 1: at this point, they've won three straight. I mean they
Speaker 1: dictated a lot against the Chargers in that game. Josh Jacobs,
Speaker 1: he rushed for almost a hundred and fifty yards. I mean,
Speaker 1: Davante Adams. Look, it's a it's a short week and
Speaker 1: the Rams are a disaster, so I feel like this
Speaker 1: one's pretty easy. The Raiders defensive line has played great
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, out of nowhere. Crosby has
Speaker 1: been great, but their defensive tackles have been playing well.
Speaker 1: Jerry Tiller, who they picked up from the Chargers, played
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones has as many pressures in the last two
Speaker 1: weeks nineteen as he had in the entire season until
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, like he's been dominant in last week.
Speaker 1: They're like single handedly bringing back the flee flicker like
Speaker 1: McDaniels is just flee flickering. And basically they got Yakob Johnson,
Speaker 1: Henry's old uh friend from the International Pathway Program, blowing
Speaker 1: up on open holes. They're a fun team. They're a
Speaker 1: fun team that Danny adopted early. And yeah, and and
Speaker 1: I wrote about this on Power Rankings. How is it
Speaker 1: possible they have to legitimate offensive player of the Year
Speaker 1: candidates Davante Adams and Josh Jacobs, a leading contender for
Speaker 1: defensive player of the Year in Max Crosby, and there's
Speaker 1: still two games under despite winning three games in a row.
Speaker 1: It's almost like mark that maybe maybe the universe is
Speaker 1: correcting itself and their record is getting back to where
Speaker 1: it should have always been, which would mean they should
Speaker 1: paste the rams. Is this even in the lock zone.
Speaker 1: I don't lock on Thursday. I got out of that game.
Speaker 1: But this should This feels like a double digit win
Speaker 1: for the Raiders, and yet they are a hard team
Speaker 1: to trust even now. I mean the six of their
Speaker 1: losses were one score losses. They were like we're talking
Speaker 1: about like the the reverse vikings. So I think it's
Speaker 1: it is correcting itself a little bit. And Davante Adams
Speaker 1: has been utterly unstoppable. Uh. The Rams have the six
Speaker 1: worth word defensive past d v O A right now.
Speaker 1: You can throw on them. Uh. They do have the
Speaker 1: fifth best run though, so I don't I'm not this
Speaker 1: is that's also you know, stacked off a whole season.
Speaker 1: You don't have at this point, Aaron Donald. You don't
Speaker 1: have a Shan Robinson. You don't have guys that like
Speaker 1: were meant to be on this team. They have eighty
Speaker 1: three point four million dollars of their salary cap on
Speaker 1: injured reserve right now. So it's like, if this Raiders
Speaker 1: team that we've talked about on this show and on
Speaker 1: previous shows is turning the corner, you gotta come in
Speaker 1: and stamp the Rams. You gotta because you also think
Speaker 1: you need to tell yourself. You can't get stuck in
Speaker 1: these close games over and over and over. Can you
Speaker 1: exert your muscle? Can Davante Adams go out there and
Speaker 1: absolutely dominate a Rams team that, outside of playing well
Speaker 1: against Seattle, is slightly like psychologically shattered at this point,
Speaker 1: I think that was their super Bowl. They were so
Speaker 1: fired up for that game. Bobby Wagner, well, he played
Speaker 1: so well. He's played great all season. That was one
Speaker 1: move they made that totally worked. Like Bobby Waggoner has
Speaker 1: been great, but that can only do so much. They
Speaker 1: found a guy in Michael heck Hoped. I don't know
Speaker 1: who it is playing defensive tackle for them, so they've
Speaker 1: they're trying to find some players that step up. But
Speaker 1: I was really interested to hear McVeigh after the game.
Speaker 1: He said, this has been the most challenging thing that
Speaker 1: he had ever gone through, and that felt like an
Speaker 1: emotional game that they almost wanted. Now this might be
Speaker 1: a leftown game where they lose by thirty Grave digger,
Speaker 1: We do have McVeigh because it was wild, like how
Speaker 1: much soul searching he is doing right now? You're being honest,
Speaker 1: I think you acknowledge some insecurities that maybe you didn't
Speaker 1: think you have that that this forces you to reflect
Speaker 1: on and um, are you really foundationally secure in the
Speaker 1: things that that really matter? Or do you let some
Speaker 1: of the outside in narratives affect your being or some
Speaker 1: of these results affect the way that you approach things.
Speaker 1: And to say that there hasn't been rough moments where
Speaker 1: some of that doubts occurred, I'd be lying to you guys.
Speaker 1: That's why I don't like, I really question and not
Speaker 1: not from a talent angle or careers are different. We
Speaker 1: don't all want to do the same thing forever. But
Speaker 1: like McVeigh does not strike me as a thirty five
Speaker 1: year coach because if you go back to the feature
Speaker 1: that was written on him before the season, he just
Speaker 1: carries and puts so much weight on himself and he
Speaker 1: gets so stressed and so, yeah, this is the most
Speaker 1: challenging season because frankly, with the Rams as a head coach,
Speaker 1: he's had it pretty easy. He's been given things most
Speaker 1: head coaches aren't, and he's been given a lot of
Speaker 1: shiny things in l A and a new stadium and
Speaker 1: a lot of attention from the league and a lot
Speaker 1: of praise, and the floor's fallen out and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be more challenge. You're playing third and four string guys
Speaker 1: and trying to make something out of a lost season.
Speaker 1: Insecurities you didn't think you had was like the line there,
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I did too. Um, all right.
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Speaker 1: The new era of Thursday Night Football is officially here,
Speaker 1: and it's only on Prime Video. So check that game out,
Speaker 1: check out Colleen Wolf on NFL Network on Thursday. And
Speaker 1: that wraps up Beefy Tuesday Show. We'll be back on
Speaker 1: Thursday with a should until Thursday full preview of week fourteen.
Speaker 1: And yes, as Greg mentioned, uh, we have our live show,
Speaker 1: the a t n Homecoming Show from Hollywood Wednesday, January
Speaker 1: eighteenth at the Bourbon Room in Hollywood. Limited tickets remain.
Speaker 1: Justin how do people get to those tickets to buy them? Well,
Speaker 1: the link is in our Instagram bio right now. You
Speaker 1: can just click that link, or if you want to
Speaker 1: go to ticket master dot com and search around the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's the only result that pops up. Pretty simple. If
Speaker 1: you want to go there, you go. What if what
Speaker 1: if multiple results popped up? That would be concerning to me.
Speaker 1: Will the lovely Yessica be in attendance at the Bourbon Room?
Speaker 1: She is planning to be in attendance. Yes, interesting you
Speaker 1: hear that, Mark? Well, she had a starring role. She
Speaker 1: was the last person to leave the stage at our
Speaker 1: London show. I have a great picture of Dan and Yessica.
Speaker 1: You trust her? Do you trust her Justin around tumblings
Speaker 1: of bourbon? Of course? I trust her in any situation.
Speaker 1: Jessica plus tumblers of bourbon could be trouble for Justin.
Speaker 1: She was a natural on that stage. Really, where did
Speaker 1: it go? I lost my train of thought in your conversation?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about drinking with Justin's living girlfriend? No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, does he trust Jessica at the Bourbon Room
Speaker 1: and just big tumblers of bourbons? White lotus plotline? What
Speaker 1: are you going on over there in that brain of
Speaker 1: yours he's coming from? Sorry, I just know that Mark
Speaker 1: might be plotting something, and just be prepared. Which one
Speaker 1: of us is waltzing around stage, whether there after our show,
Speaker 1: which who was behind stage talking to Greg? That was
Speaker 1: more likely. I mean, you did just say on the
Speaker 1: program that her with some alcohol around could be trouble
Speaker 1: for Justin. That was an exact quote. I stick by that.
Speaker 1: Thank you everybody for listening, yes till Thursday. Heke the
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