Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast knows how to pronounce gift
Speaker 1: or is it Jim from the Chris Westling podcast studio.
Speaker 1: It's around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas. I have heroes here,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal and the Great Tiny Box Contie Fox. Hi,
Speaker 1: is everything straight over there? You seem to be um
Speaker 1: fiddling with a lot of things before we start lining
Speaker 1: up your papers and your pens. I am this is
Speaker 1: you know? This is um the bongo God's very busy day. God.
Speaker 1: So I got a lot of going on here, and
Speaker 1: I'm just h But I love the Tuesday show because
Speaker 1: it's fun and it's looser. And Colleen is here and
Speaker 1: she has her own theme song. That's nice. Mark. I
Speaker 1: think it's an excellent feature for her to have. Do
Speaker 1: you want to yes? An impression of the Mark. But
Speaker 1: I don't know that was a human trying to express
Speaker 1: happiness for another person. I was. I am happy, unhappy
Speaker 1: that I'm here. I'm always excited when you're here because
Speaker 1: I think it adds a levity to the to the room, UM,
Speaker 1: a different layer of analysis and fun. That's great. You
Speaker 1: keep going if you want, Yeah, that's good. How are
Speaker 1: you my favorite? Get that on the record. Uh, coming
Speaker 1: up on today's show, there are four weeks remaining in
Speaker 1: the regular season, so this is a good time to
Speaker 1: take a step back and you know who is the
Speaker 1: most at stake in our league over the final four
Speaker 1: weeks of the regular season. Is this A Is the
Speaker 1: segment mark clear to you before we begin? Yes, I
Speaker 1: believe it is. UM. On Mondays, we're all very busy.
Speaker 1: I typically don't text my tech check my text messages
Speaker 1: as much as as I should, and I was scrolling
Speaker 1: through attempting to find out what, yeah, what the segment
Speaker 1: was actually about. So I did have a question or
Speaker 1: two for you, because I think I think this applies
Speaker 1: to calling to you like to go in if you're
Speaker 1: going to prepare for something. You know, it's crazy to
Speaker 1: want to prepare for shure. Everyone just let's just play
Speaker 1: at all time and just like roll spaghetti around like
Speaker 1: but like still classic guy doesn't really no food throwing
Speaker 1: food into the conversation and so but no, I feel
Speaker 1: I feel UM somewhat crystal clear on what it's about. Excellent,
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good COMBA. It is only four
Speaker 1: weeks in the regular season. That's that's good. That's good.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of spaghetti to roll rolling all over
Speaker 1: all over the place. Um, what else do we have today?
Speaker 1: We have a Thursday and I preview huge, huge game,
Speaker 1: uh for two teams, the San Francisco forty Niners and
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks NFC West on the line, I believe
Speaker 1: it's a hat and T shirt game, as Kirk Cousin was,
Speaker 1: and yet it could be a tie at the top
Speaker 1: of the division. Mark if your take last week was
Speaker 1: spot on that Kirk Cousins doomed the Vikings the moment
Speaker 1: he said the game at Ford Fields at ever allow
Speaker 1: that to get out in publicly saying, well, I think
Speaker 1: for Kirk ITTs, he is just so excited about the
Speaker 1: hatton T shirt. But he's like, it's like a birthday
Speaker 1: party and he's ten years old and it's a birthday
Speaker 1: parties when he's a kid. So this is he's got
Speaker 1: a bit of a Michael Scott as a child thing
Speaker 1: going on and now this is his opportunity. So I
Speaker 1: feel like he had friends when he was a child.
Speaker 1: He's so he well, I don't know, I don't know
Speaker 1: anything about Kirk. I was not I was actually a pretty.
Speaker 1: I was kind of a sweet, more quiet child. You
Speaker 1: might be surprised by that, you were a middle child.
Speaker 1: I believe he turned into a monster, A total monster,
Speaker 1: all right. And before we get to that, we're gonna
Speaker 1: do some news. I want to get something off my chest.
Speaker 1: I would do it during the It's About Me segment
Speaker 1: coming up on Friday. But this Friday very exciting. Connor,
Speaker 1: or our dear friend from Sports Illustrated and former around
Speaker 1: the NFL alum, is going to be sitting in on
Speaker 1: the show and he will be sharing his favorite holiday
Speaker 1: movies of two thousand twenty two. He's been keeping me
Speaker 1: abreast of the situation for months. Yes, he sits down
Speaker 1: with his wonderful wife and they just pour through Christmas movies.
Speaker 1: Um at a really almost like a disturbing clip. We're talking.
Speaker 1: He'll take in five six movies a week and he's
Speaker 1: going to share some of his favorite this year. How
Speaker 1: does he have time to do that? Connor is not
Speaker 1: like other people, and I mean that the highest regard
Speaker 1: for the men. He just operates at a kind of
Speaker 1: a different speed. And I think he found a life
Speaker 1: partner that that's incredible. I once when I went to
Speaker 1: London with Connor, and we were going up and down
Speaker 1: the hallway heard them on a phone conversation together and
Speaker 1: my thought was these two Jael, they just really talking
Speaker 1: about each other Connor on Friday, UM. But what I
Speaker 1: was saying was, since I can't take the it's about
Speaker 1: me slot this week, can I just share one thing
Speaker 1: that's really on my radar? It's too late, I've already
Speaker 1: started coming monster. UM. On Sunday, I'm watching Jets Bills
Speaker 1: tense game. Obviously it's it's that game starts as a
Speaker 1: defensive struggle, teams feeling each other out, ten straight punts
Speaker 1: to start the game, and they come back and break
Speaker 1: at the end of the first quarter, and there's Tracy
Speaker 1: Wolfson grabbing the head coach of the Bills. Let's listen
Speaker 1: in to the entirety of the interview. So just slow
Speaker 1: start offensively. Three punts and now the sack that Alan
Speaker 1: just took. How much is this weather affecting what you
Speaker 1: guys want to do? Yeah, I mean we're not in
Speaker 1: a rhythm. That's the bottom lot regardless of the weather.
Speaker 1: At this point. You talk about the run game, we
Speaker 1: talked about it just twenty four yards and this weather.
Speaker 1: How important is it to establish that We've got to
Speaker 1: be able to stablish a lot of scrimmage. Okay, So
Speaker 1: this isn't a criticism of Tracy Wilson, who does a
Speaker 1: great job for CBS. It is a criticism of the
Speaker 1: entire concept of these interviews. And they're weird enough when
Speaker 1: they come out of the half and the coaches are
Speaker 1: in a mindset. But to do it in between quarters,
Speaker 1: that just seems next level. And I don't know who
Speaker 1: it's for. Didn't they in between quarters lately? I've noticed that?
Speaker 1: But who is that for? I know it shows that
Speaker 1: the broadcast has access, but it really doesn't if you
Speaker 1: actually listen to the interview. So who is that the
Speaker 1: producers of the show? Because this has been on my
Speaker 1: radar too, and I feel like no one wins. Like
Speaker 1: it's bad for the reporter, it's bad for the coach,
Speaker 1: it's bad for the audience. You never get anything from
Speaker 1: that interview. I would love for them to interview one
Speaker 1: of the players that did something interesting in the game
Speaker 1: that we saw already, So whether it was like a
Speaker 1: rookie that scored for the first time or someone who
Speaker 1: came up with a big play or someone who was
Speaker 1: like a third stringer that did something cool like that
Speaker 1: would actually give a little bit of juice to that interview.
Speaker 1: And I'm also like the coaches, like, here's about to
Speaker 1: kick off and the coaches got his headset off and
Speaker 1: he's over here talking to Tracy Wolfson or fill in
Speaker 1: the black nightmare. Dan Campbell was the one exception though.
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell came out and maybe that wasn't the quarter,
Speaker 1: but thank you, they're way. Dan Campbell chose to use
Speaker 1: it as a chance to engage. I think people get
Speaker 1: if you are a coach that wants to get known better,
Speaker 1: you could use it in a positive way, but most
Speaker 1: of you get nothing. But like Ultra Fleff and we
Speaker 1: called that out Campbell's exception that proves the rule that
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know. Players would be great. I
Speaker 1: don't think the teams would agree to it, because players,
Speaker 1: you know what, they're gonna be perfect because you would
Speaker 1: have a defensive player on if the offense is coming
Speaker 1: out next, or vice versa, and so they actually might
Speaker 1: say something like, oh what about this play? But teams
Speaker 1: would never allow because afraid, how is that doing right?
Speaker 1: And I'm more on the side of like, just let
Speaker 1: these guys. They have to be at an elite headspace
Speaker 1: to succeed in our league. Just leave everybody alone until
Speaker 1: after the game. Um that you did see it in
Speaker 1: MLB and they were interviewing guys on the earpiece like
Speaker 1: on the field, and I'm like, if that ever happened,
Speaker 1: if Aaron Judge missed the flyball that knocked the Eggs
Speaker 1: out of playoffs because he was talking to Chris Rose
Speaker 1: or something, it would be like in chronicle. We can
Speaker 1: we just calm down with the quote unquote access. If
Speaker 1: if I would pay money, genuine money to have Evan Washburn,
Speaker 1: like after a first quarter of a game, like, uh so,
Speaker 1: Matt Patricia going to call another screen there just to
Speaker 1: see what would happen. I would make an exception for
Speaker 1: Evan Washburn only just because I want to see the
Speaker 1: well adjusted uh Patrick Bateman more. I just need him
Speaker 1: more in my life. All right, let's do some news.
Speaker 1: The history is very rich here, I know, you know what,
Speaker 1: shout out to the reddit because they find everything. They
Speaker 1: founded Connie and we have a treasure trove of various
Speaker 1: golf courses in the Poconos region of Pennsylvania, not just
Speaker 1: one episode. We have the entire season of Connie on
Speaker 1: Golf with with an elderly gentleman as this as the
Speaker 1: co host work. Harry's a dream class act. Yeah, he's awesome.
Speaker 1: We should get these tapes to Connor. And that's my
Speaker 1: favorite Christmas movie. It's just Connie on Golf. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get good. Okay. I've never played. There's one point
Speaker 1: in one of the videos where I know nothing about.
Speaker 1: You walk a hole with a golf pro and one
Speaker 1: of the courses and before he shoots, he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you set yourself, but pretty well you about a hundred
Speaker 1: and five yards to the pin. And I'm like, there's
Speaker 1: no there's no chance she has any idea of what
Speaker 1: she's saying right now. This is clearly fed to the
Speaker 1: tiny box absolutely, Like I will say that is accurate.
Speaker 1: I know nothing about golf and I hosted a golf
Speaker 1: show for a while. You pulled it off, did I
Speaker 1: don't know fired people are still talking about it years later.
Speaker 1: So you walked away under your own you know what?
Speaker 1: It was pretty good? Um as suspected and I know
Speaker 1: Greg you covered this on the Monday Night football recap
Speaker 1: between the Cardinals and Patriots. Kyler Murray went down with
Speaker 1: that non contact injury on the third play from scrimmage
Speaker 1: um on Monday, and yes, he tore his a c
Speaker 1: L in his knee mrs. Obviously, the remainder of the
Speaker 1: season and the timing of it happening in mid December
Speaker 1: obviously puts into question his availability for a part um
Speaker 1: of the season. Everyone's different, but just as an example,
Speaker 1: um Odell Beckham tore his a c L in early
Speaker 1: February and we're hearing he won't be ready to come
Speaker 1: back at all this year. It's everyone's different. But Murray's
Speaker 1: got a uphill climb and he knows it and that's
Speaker 1: why his reaction was the way it was on the field.
Speaker 1: So here we go. Market's Colt McCoy to finish out
Speaker 1: a law season for Arizona. That, yeah, there's levels to
Speaker 1: this in terms of the devastation for the organization. I
Speaker 1: don't think HBO knew that they were gonna be telecasting
Speaker 1: essentially a horror film by chronicling this team over the
Speaker 1: course of a month plus it last year. By the way,
Speaker 1: the in season Hard Knocks was the I would think
Speaker 1: twice if I was a team going for I do
Speaker 1: also wonder why that these the Cardinals are getting on
Speaker 1: these primetime games because of this HBO thing. I don't
Speaker 1: know that's the next level question. But it is a
Speaker 1: rough um ending to a terrible season. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: mean really like this journey began with last offseason and
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray talked about the contract and having the agent
Speaker 1: do this or that, and we spend all these months
Speaker 1: doing it, and then the team completely flatlines. Um they
Speaker 1: look about is disorganized on offense and schemeless and without
Speaker 1: a plan as any team in the NFC, and Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray didn't really save them or help them that much
Speaker 1: out of that problem. This year. I have a weird question.
Speaker 1: I will say this, do you need immediately You'd say,
Speaker 1: of course not, because he's injured, But does it if
Speaker 1: the Cardinals just blow everything up and they're looking for assets,
Speaker 1: does it make Kyler Murray more tradeable to a team
Speaker 1: that says, we get it, We lose them for a
Speaker 1: chunk of next year, but we believe we can do
Speaker 1: what the Cardinals couldn't and Kyler Murray goes somewhere else
Speaker 1: in highly versus running this back. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: tradeable because of the injury. Why And I don't think
Speaker 1: they'd want to treade him. Why would they. I want
Speaker 1: to keep Kyler Murray. I just want to see what
Speaker 1: probably the logical answer, what he looks like with a
Speaker 1: different coach. And I didn't totally realize that in the moment,
Speaker 1: just like, oh, this was this was the end of something.
Speaker 1: Last night, I think this was the end of the
Speaker 1: the Murray Cliff Kingsbury eras that that injury. You could
Speaker 1: kind of see it on Kingsbury's face. I think that
Speaker 1: he kind of knew that too, be he was in
Speaker 1: that game. I mean, I felt like even the whites
Speaker 1: of his eyes were just like blazing red when they
Speaker 1: when they panned to him on the sideline, like you
Speaker 1: could see the stress literally oozing out of his eyes.
Speaker 1: Like this has been such a bad season for them,
Speaker 1: and the future is so uncertain for not only Kingsbury
Speaker 1: but Steve come to and I don't know what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do, what the plan will be for next season
Speaker 1: to fill in the spot at quarterback, because you never
Speaker 1: know when he's going to be back and when he's
Speaker 1: going to be healthy enough to play, because that's such
Speaker 1: a big part of his game moving around. It's interesting too, Yes,
Speaker 1: and you hope he comes back and he's the same guy,
Speaker 1: the same guy before the injury. But I actually had
Speaker 1: the opposite thought that I wondered if uh Murray now
Speaker 1: exiting the picture? So these final four games for Kingsbury,
Speaker 1: is no one's even gonna factor anything in how the
Speaker 1: team closes? Does that somehow in a way help Kingsbury
Speaker 1: keep his job and then gets a fresh start with
Speaker 1: Murray back eventually next year. I mean, could you put
Speaker 1: it past this team after what they did? I would say,
Speaker 1: wouldn't put it past maybe the ownership because of the
Speaker 1: contract extinction they also gave Cliff Kingsbury and kind and
Speaker 1: maybe you try to just chalk this up as everything
Speaker 1: went wrong. Um there, we're gonna try this again. But
Speaker 1: I think there's enough evidence to suggest that, like another
Speaker 1: year of click, Cliff Kingsbury is not going to look
Speaker 1: drastically different than this. And I tend to agree, even
Speaker 1: though I asked the question that like, your asset is
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and maybe if you think, I know, it's
Speaker 1: not Sean Payton, but someone can come in and do
Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray. What other great QB whispers do with
Speaker 1: other quarterbacks and then you can sell that to people.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can sell this to Cardinals fans. Again.
Speaker 1: I think it's actually is a the most logical place
Speaker 1: for Sean Payton, just because I think they'd handle hand
Speaker 1: over all the controls and all the money potentially to
Speaker 1: let him just do whatever he wanted. And there's a
Speaker 1: quarterback there. I looked up the numbers you could trade
Speaker 1: them like after June one without dealing with the salary
Speaker 1: cap complications. Before that you couldn't. Uh. They right now
Speaker 1: would be projected to have the six pick in the draft, though,
Speaker 1: so it's not the craziest thing to ask. I mean,
Speaker 1: look how they got Kyler Murray who they had before that,
Speaker 1: so they will think differently that stay it's the same
Speaker 1: GM Maybe not then though A morose um Jason Zumwalt
Speaker 1: on text uh noted Cardinals fan Voice of God on
Speaker 1: our program said that he felt like this that his
Speaker 1: team was going to be in the darkness for like decades,
Speaker 1: and I said to him, he's experienced that, so yes,
Speaker 1: I And my reply was, these things can turn around
Speaker 1: quickly in the NFL, as we know. But I think
Speaker 1: the first you got to get this brain trust figured
Speaker 1: out in Arizona, and now it's complicated by the one
Speaker 1: guy that you kind of saw his potentially a superstar
Speaker 1: on the roster, and he is. Now you do have
Speaker 1: a remarkable, um sturdy, well respected backup to take you,
Speaker 1: to take you through this darkness until the end of
Speaker 1: the season. And maybe did annoy me that he didn't
Speaker 1: play well against the Patriot did not play well and
Speaker 1: that game needed some he cult McCoy to play well.
Speaker 1: You look like did you tweet something like we're all
Speaker 1: cult McCoy or something like that? I was like, what
Speaker 1: is going on with Dan here? Because I've never what
Speaker 1: was what was there? It's pretty easy to follow the
Speaker 1: threat on that one. I mean, you just complimenting cult
Speaker 1: McCoy had in general to defeat the Patriots, who are
Speaker 1: in a playoff race, played, he played okay? The Patriots.
Speaker 1: Jets fans are like anyone that likes a little Patriots
Speaker 1: shouting for it. Just just wait for the next couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. It's coming. This team is done. Last night
Speaker 1: did not? That's interesting? All right? Did you watch the
Speaker 1: game on Monday? All right, let's move on. Weird situation
Speaker 1: developing in Atlanta. Um, I'm seeing this reported in the
Speaker 1: Athletic that Marcus Mariotta has left the team and there's
Speaker 1: no indication or on when or if he will return.
Speaker 1: This comes, of course, a day after head coach Arthur
Speaker 1: Smith announced that the team had made a quote performance
Speaker 1: based decision to bench Mariotta in favor of third round
Speaker 1: rookie Desmond Ritter. Obviously, the media covering the Falcons is
Speaker 1: going to ask about this, and here's what Arthur Smith
Speaker 1: had to say today. Yeah, and that had nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the move here, Josh. But there's you know,
Speaker 1: like a lot of athletes, some chronic nothing that's been
Speaker 1: an issue this season. But that's the prerogative. And so
Speaker 1: you know, as this happens, you know, that's why we
Speaker 1: signed Logan on Saturday though, make sure we have depth there.
Speaker 1: And well, you know, once that decision is made then
Speaker 1: I'll up at you. But he's not here right now,
Speaker 1: so in case, you know, just give me in full transparency. Alright.
Speaker 1: So just to clarify, there is a quote unquote chronic
Speaker 1: knee injury that's leading to the team putting Marcus Mariotta
Speaker 1: on i R. But that doesn't pass the smell test. Greig, Well,
Speaker 1: he said it he left the team and that that
Speaker 1: was the reporting to from the athletic. If you go
Speaker 1: to i R, it doesn't mean you're allowed to just
Speaker 1: leave the team. I'll see you next July. Just for
Speaker 1: people clarity, I think he's being put on i R
Speaker 1: because he left the team, not the other way. Checked
Speaker 1: in about our show in the same capacity. I think
Speaker 1: it's a great thing to do your work in a
Speaker 1: certain pinch, but I don't think it applies. But you
Speaker 1: could step away for a podcast based i R, but
Speaker 1: you'd still have to come to the office. You can't disappear.
Speaker 1: And Marcus like, all right, keep me on the active roster.
Speaker 1: I think Mark and I are aligned that we like
Speaker 1: this move for Mariota, just saying, you know what, things
Speaker 1: are not working out here, I'm gonna go. He did,
Speaker 1: I could not his wife. Yeah. I did. Also just
Speaker 1: have a child, you guys. You guys mentioned and so
Speaker 1: it's like a paternity leave. But it's quite a move.
Speaker 1: The second time he's been benched by Arthur Smith in
Speaker 1: the middle of a season, once for Ryan Tannehill and
Speaker 1: uh Arthur Smith, who is not very transparent with the
Speaker 1: media was interesting there. He offered up information he didn't
Speaker 1: have to and said, oh, just to be transparent. He's
Speaker 1: also the guy it's like, I'm about moving off Mariota
Speaker 1: at all. I promise I'm not moving off Mariota at all.
Speaker 1: And then he did it. And now Logan Woodside would
Speaker 1: be your Falcon starter should anything happen to Desmond Ritter
Speaker 1: in these last final four weeks, and when all the
Speaker 1: fantasy owners out there that's still have a pulse in
Speaker 1: the playoffs that want to pick up a streaming defense
Speaker 1: to take a look at who the Atlanta Falcons play
Speaker 1: in the final four weeks or if they forbid ever
Speaker 1: won the division, which is not beyond comprehension. And then
Speaker 1: something been to Desmond Ritter, and Logan Woodside is starting
Speaker 1: a playoff game, and I wanted a garage door to
Speaker 1: close on my body at that point. So I think
Speaker 1: Greater will be good. I think he'll be at least
Speaker 1: as good. You could just not watch. Also, well, that
Speaker 1: circles back to what we were just discussing about my
Speaker 1: employee here, so that doesn't apply all right, Yes, Mr
Speaker 1: here comes justin off the top turn buckle. To dunk
Speaker 1: on Marcus Marianna. Here we go. This is just because
Speaker 1: we mentioned it on the Friday Fun Show, but not
Speaker 1: everyone has always tuned into every show. So I just
Speaker 1: wanted to reiterate that Mark will now be allowed to
Speaker 1: keep his shirt on for every podcast episode until the
Speaker 1: next time he declares that he would do it. We
Speaker 1: did leave open the possibility that he still could take
Speaker 1: his shirt off if he chooses, if he wants to.
Speaker 1: I think everyone would appreciate. But this was tied to
Speaker 1: Mariota not starting every game, which I vowed he would
Speaker 1: not write. But I knew that when I said that,
Speaker 1: So there's no drama to out to this update. All right,
Speaker 1: that's what's happening in the news. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break and then we will get into our
Speaker 1: what do we calling this seg This is uh figuring
Speaker 1: it outline. Let's see what the line we're talking about. Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're talking about. All right, We're gonna think during the break,
Speaker 1: will be on the line. All right, here we go,
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Are you ready? It's a Saturday
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Speaker 1: have we thought it over, and we've decided the name
Speaker 1: of this segment is something about steaks, steaks, dinner, Steaks dinner.
Speaker 1: We prepare ahead of time, the alright, steaks high stakes?
Speaker 1: Stakes are high? Stakes? Are stakes are high? A classic
Speaker 1: day last soul album you thought they were in their
Speaker 1: peak was passed, but they came back for one more banger. Nice.
Speaker 1: I like that. That's good. How about sloppy Steaks of
Speaker 1: I think you should leave fame? All right, sloppy steaks
Speaker 1: here we go, sloppy steaks at your working title as
Speaker 1: we're known for. All right, let's get into it. Four
Speaker 1: weeks to go in the regular season. Some players, teams,
Speaker 1: what have you? Coaches, GM's owners who knows um have
Speaker 1: higher stakes than others. As we come down stretch of
Speaker 1: this regular season, Greg Rosenthal, get us go, put a
Speaker 1: stake on it, Put the steak on the grill, get
Speaker 1: it sizzling. Don't be annoyed that I'm going to talk
Speaker 1: about Gina Smith because actually, I don't think we've hit
Speaker 1: him that much lately, but the steaks are genuinely high.
Speaker 1: I think I think he's this is this is apt,
Speaker 1: it's apt. He's a free agent after this year. The
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks had the number two overall pick in the draft,
Speaker 1: but that drafts not till late April, still annoys me.
Speaker 1: The draft is after free agency. I think eventually we
Speaker 1: could get that change if we complain about it enough.
Speaker 1: Uh got another It's about me here. That's how it is, though,
Speaker 1: And so Gino Smith has to sign a contract before then.
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks have to decide what to do with
Speaker 1: Gino Smith. Before then, he's proven he's a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: in the NFL. To me, he's proving that he should
Speaker 1: be the Seattle Seahawks starting quarterback next year, because if
Speaker 1: you have an above average starter at this point, you
Speaker 1: gotta just keep him. Whatever the cost is gonna be,
Speaker 1: whether that's a franchise tag or a long term deal,
Speaker 1: you need to make it happen. But I'm not totally sure,
Speaker 1: and I'm definitely not assuming that the next four weeks
Speaker 1: won't be instructive. They've got some tough matchups starting with
Speaker 1: Thursday night, which we can talk about later. But how
Speaker 1: he plays in these last four weeks is gonna affect
Speaker 1: his career with the Seahawks or his career on the league.
Speaker 1: I don't know how the other teams are gonna view
Speaker 1: Gino Smith, but I think people remember the end and
Speaker 1: whether if if this stays at the same level or
Speaker 1: goes down. And he's been a little more up and down,
Speaker 1: I would say over the last four or five weeks, uh,
Speaker 1: not as consistently just amazing. That's gonna affect his future.
Speaker 1: I think, barring a collapse, he wins Comeback Player of
Speaker 1: the Year, he'd be my vote. There's other couple other candidates,
Speaker 1: but there's got to be multiple teams of Seattle ever
Speaker 1: went in another direction that have to view this as
Speaker 1: a marketable player who recreated himself. And even when he's
Speaker 1: had some of these ships, I get that there's been
Speaker 1: a few more turnovers. It hasn't been like the pristine
Speaker 1: metrics and numbers of some of the earlier showings for Gino,
Speaker 1: but he's still every week is doing pretty amazing Geno
Speaker 1: esque things, and I think it's more about the rest
Speaker 1: of the offense kind of they're doing the run game
Speaker 1: and stuff right now, exposing him a bit. But Geno Smith,
Speaker 1: to me, like absolutely would get a starting job somewhere
Speaker 1: else of Seattle ever passed. I don't know if Geno
Speaker 1: Smith's the guy i'd want to, Like, let's bring in
Speaker 1: a first round rookie and have Gino be super cool
Speaker 1: to him and hope that goes well. Maybe he is
Speaker 1: such a he's become now, um something of an afterthought
Speaker 1: to a bit of a fascinating off season figure. Because yeah,
Speaker 1: if the Seahawks do decide not to bring him back,
Speaker 1: or even if they do, when they give him the
Speaker 1: how much do you pay Gino Smith? Like that what
Speaker 1: I mean, what is his value on the open market? Like,
Speaker 1: do you pay Gino Smith thirty five million dollars a year?
Speaker 1: What if it's like Derek Carr's type contract or something
Speaker 1: that's what Derek Carr makes though, So that's that's what
Speaker 1: I mean, And I do you have to He's got
Speaker 1: the forty Niners this week, You've got the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: the Jets. It's a tough closing stretch here too, and
Speaker 1: I think if he gets them into the playoffs, and
Speaker 1: you watch like a nice geno playoff performer. He's going
Speaker 1: to make more because of it, and he's gonna be
Speaker 1: more likely to be in Seattle. I think it couldn't
Speaker 1: be a bad Panthers team at home, Like he's lost
Speaker 1: me a little bit over the bad What are we
Speaker 1: talking a morning? Different podcasts, different two different shows. The
Speaker 1: Panthers are a little bit like my pet team. I
Speaker 1: have adopted them, but Gino just said they suck. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that the Seahawks should have beat some pets suck.
Speaker 1: But I think people I love them just the same,
Speaker 1: even if I don't think they're great. People can separate
Speaker 1: the quarterback from the rest of the team a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I do think that's why the stakes are high.
Speaker 1: That he has to finish off what he started on
Speaker 1: some level, and I'm confident he will because he hasn't
Speaker 1: really shown it. Even if he plays at that level
Speaker 1: like he did on Sunday or the last couple of
Speaker 1: weeks throughout the next month, that'll be enough. But football
Speaker 1: is unpredictable. He could make himself a lot of money,
Speaker 1: or he could lose. I think Seattle will want to
Speaker 1: keep him ultimately, steaks are high. You nailed it, Okay,
Speaker 1: steaks are sloppy, steaks are sizzling. H The sega is that, UM,
Speaker 1: let's stick with quarterbacks since we're here, and I want
Speaker 1: to talk about two guys that you'd say, what's what's
Speaker 1: their connection? But they kind of sneaky, have an interesting connection.
Speaker 1: I refer to Jets QB. Mike White referred to forty
Speaker 1: Niners QB. Brock Party. These are two guys that have
Speaker 1: a real opportunity in these last four weeks to make
Speaker 1: their team think long and hard about some big decisions
Speaker 1: they made in a draft a year and a half ago.
Speaker 1: Because Zack Wilson and the two thousand twenty one draft
Speaker 1: went number two overall, Trey Lance in the same draft
Speaker 1: went the next pick, number three overall. Zack Wilson has
Speaker 1: bombed out this year, and he may I think maybe
Speaker 1: they listened to the podcast the Jets, or maybe they
Speaker 1: just watched the tape. It sounds like Zack Wilson, if
Speaker 1: Mike White plays on Thursday, will be elevated to active
Speaker 1: duty as the backup quarterback. That gotta get alacko out
Speaker 1: of there. Um. But obviously it's been a terrible season
Speaker 1: for him, Trey Lance, he's missing this entire season. If
Speaker 1: Purdy steps in and does the Garoppolo type job, Garoppolo
Speaker 1: I think gets traded either way, most likely, I think um.
Speaker 1: And then they then can make a decision like do
Speaker 1: we want to roll with this kid if he proves
Speaker 1: to be someone that could play the guitar? And I
Speaker 1: think the same thing with White. If White can finish
Speaker 1: strong and the Jets can go to the playoffs, are
Speaker 1: the Jets gonna turn back to Zach Wilson next year
Speaker 1: or get somebody else? I think they'll think long and
Speaker 1: hard about it. So steakes are high for both these guys.
Speaker 1: They can really put their teams in a mind bender
Speaker 1: with a strong finish one like the Link between My
Speaker 1: life that you paired them because I can't think of
Speaker 1: two other No namers that Day three draft were elevated
Speaker 1: to starting roles very quickly during a tumultuous season for
Speaker 1: two different reasons, and all in Unison. Both locker rooms
Speaker 1: are coming out of the woodwork to tell you how
Speaker 1: much they love these guys. And I mean you can
Speaker 1: see at number one with what happened to Mike White physically,
Speaker 1: like the dude as a warrior, and he I think
Speaker 1: he's He is probably in every personality tick and characteristic,
Speaker 1: the polar opposite of what Zack Wilson projected to the
Speaker 1: locker room. And I don't know how the Jets could
Speaker 1: do anything more than give Zack Wilson a chance in
Speaker 1: the preseason if he's still on the team at that point,
Speaker 1: if you haven't moved him to get that job. I
Speaker 1: just would never go into the next Jet season with
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. Maybe I'd be the one would be wrong
Speaker 1: if I made a decision and he goes somewhere else
Speaker 1: and thrives. But you can just see it or not
Speaker 1: see it with these guys on some level, and I
Speaker 1: see nothing with Zack. Are you saying Mike White as
Speaker 1: a starter potentially going forward and pretty is the backup
Speaker 1: in front of him. I think he has the respect
Speaker 1: of the locker room and the coaching staff, and he
Speaker 1: and Sala despite the fact that they lost, he thought
Speaker 1: he played really well and then was tough as hell,
Speaker 1: and I think if he could finish strong, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he will have a hold of that organization, whether
Speaker 1: it's the right move or not. Well, some context for
Speaker 1: this Jimmy Garoppolo is a free agent. That's right. He
Speaker 1: set that up when he came back to the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers. So I think you're right. How Pretty plays
Speaker 1: informs that. Could we be having a tray Lance Pretty
Speaker 1: conversation next year like we were having with Trey Lands
Speaker 1: Garoppolo this year. I'm with you. If Pretty plays well
Speaker 1: and he's played better uh than than the C. J.
Speaker 1: Bethards or Nick mollins is of the world, He's already
Speaker 1: shown that he has higher potending. We're gonna get to Thursday,
Speaker 1: we'll see more. Mike White's a free agent, though, too,
Speaker 1: so that just complicates it. He's going to have a
Speaker 1: job in the NFL next year. The Jets aren't going
Speaker 1: to be the only team that will happily give him
Speaker 1: that job. Certainly they'll have the pole position. If they
Speaker 1: want to keep Mike White, they can. But how he plays,
Speaker 1: you're right over the next four weeks is going to
Speaker 1: change his life. Mike White needs to maybe show his
Speaker 1: loyalty though to the family. But brought him in and
Speaker 1: gave him this opportunity. That's that's what you do. I
Speaker 1: still haven't finished the movie Mike White. He's got to
Speaker 1: show respect. He's got to show his family love. They
Speaker 1: showed him love, otherwise it would be a betrayal. He
Speaker 1: put his body on the line for his teammates and
Speaker 1: for the city that he represents, and that will not
Speaker 1: be a forgotten So he can't forget that counterpoint. Every
Speaker 1: one of these films that you guys are aping like
Speaker 1: has massive betrayal, elements of betrayal that's started the plot,
Speaker 1: so perfect for him to do that. Hopefully he has
Speaker 1: better decision making than locking up the Seahawks against the
Speaker 1: Panthers too. It's the lock Father then breaking great you
Speaker 1: will have You will be judged for that in this
Speaker 1: life or the next by the lock Father. All right, Colleen,
Speaker 1: I believe you also have some quarterback I do. Okay,
Speaker 1: So how about this one. Steaks are wait, that last
Speaker 1: one with the stakes sloppy or sizzling? Right? So this
Speaker 1: is the second. Now I think they're high stakes. Stakes
Speaker 1: are high for the teams and the players in your
Speaker 1: in your case, yeah, they're high to sizzling. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: I think that the steaks are sizzling here, Like I
Speaker 1: I like a rare steak. I don't like anything that
Speaker 1: is above that it can't be if it's medium rare gross, Like,
Speaker 1: don't even give it to me, it's overcooked, so well
Speaker 1: done with catchup gross. Jared Golf is a guy who
Speaker 1: has so much on the line, guy that I didn't
Speaker 1: think at the beginning of the season would be in
Speaker 1: this position. But here we are with the Lions rolling,
Speaker 1: and he's he has them rolling at this point, back
Speaker 1: to back weeks where he has played incredible three yard games.
Speaker 1: He hasn't had a pick. He's throwing these long bomb touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He's playing as well as he did when the Rams
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl. And he's doing it with
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell in Detroit with the Lions, which seems kind
Speaker 1: of unbelievable to me. And now you have guys coming
Speaker 1: in like Jamison Williams. This is a situation for Jared
Speaker 1: Goff where he has gotten his opportunity. He showed them
Speaker 1: that he can be the guy to take this team
Speaker 1: on a ride with him. And the Lions have two
Speaker 1: first round picks coming up in the draft. What are
Speaker 1: they going to do now? They're in a position where
Speaker 1: they don't necessarily have to have their hand forced to
Speaker 1: get a quarterback if they don't want to yet their
Speaker 1: defense needs so much help they could use one of
Speaker 1: those picks to help the defense. Instead, they've already brought
Speaker 1: in some of these pieces to surround the quarterback. So
Speaker 1: maybe wait. It gave me this memory of reading this
Speaker 1: like seven thousand word long form about the Browns organization
Speaker 1: passing on Big Ben because they had Jeff Garcia. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Jeff Garcia and Jared Goff for
Speaker 1: the same guy, but there wasn't actually, perception wise, a
Speaker 1: huge difference between that. That they just delayed the idea
Speaker 1: of going getting a guy that went to college in
Speaker 1: Ohio and did a trial for them in the pouring rain,
Speaker 1: because they had the prospects of Jeff Garcia, a veteran
Speaker 1: that they kind of liked to come in a great
Speaker 1: job with Davis. But pointing, I would just say the
Speaker 1: only thing about Jared Goff is it shouldn't prevent you
Speaker 1: from getting the number one, like getting the top quarterback
Speaker 1: in the draft. You can get, that's all. But their
Speaker 1: draft position makes that tougher than it would have been
Speaker 1: if you thought they were gonna go you know, three
Speaker 1: and fift their fourth overall. Now with that, with that
Speaker 1: Rams pick, uh, so they will have a hard decision.
Speaker 1: And my initial instinct is like this would be in
Speaker 1: the stakes are high category, not sizzling, because Jared Goff's
Speaker 1: made his money, He's proven he's a this is a
Speaker 1: great story, it's a top five offense. But maybe it
Speaker 1: could be sizzling in the sense that if he leads
Speaker 1: them to a playoff spot, he's a legend forever in Detroit.
Speaker 1: Like it just in the sense that, like, why are
Speaker 1: we talking just about money and what's gonna happen next?
Speaker 1: Is like this could be one of the most memorable
Speaker 1: things he ever does on this planet Earth is go
Speaker 1: bring the Lions to the playoffs and that that's why
Speaker 1: you you play the sport. He can be like an
Speaker 1: all timer And even if nothing happens after this year
Speaker 1: and they do take a rookie, that alone would be
Speaker 1: a not that clothing line of his in Detroit. I
Speaker 1: mean everything he does right now is working out. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think he already has earned the right to sit
Speaker 1: down at the nicest steakhouse in Detroit and pour a
Speaker 1: big glass of water and then support all over that
Speaker 1: steak and sa water jumped on it. It's really really good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like he deserves that already, and what I'm gonna do is, um,
Speaker 1: I think there's some half measures involved here with Greg's
Speaker 1: take on this. If I was Brad Holmes the gym,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, screw this. I am keeping Jared Goff. I'm
Speaker 1: picking up the option on his contract. But there's no option.
Speaker 1: They haven't out. They haven't out after this year. It's
Speaker 1: not an option, but they haven't out. They can get
Speaker 1: out of the deal. I'm I'm sticking with Jared Goff,
Speaker 1: and I am selling that draft pick, and I am
Speaker 1: building at roster. I'm not even taking a quarterback unless
Speaker 1: you're absolutely in love with, like a that you think
Speaker 1: could be Trevor Lawrence or something. Just go for it
Speaker 1: and give golf. That's giving golf his I just think, like,
Speaker 1: the one thing we know about golf is that offense
Speaker 1: has changed year to year, and if golf has suddenly
Speaker 1: put in an environment that's not great for golf, you
Speaker 1: will be the guy they're talking about on Sports Talk
Speaker 1: environment great by continuing to that's the obvious, obviously what
Speaker 1: you'd want to do, but you would be you would
Speaker 1: be the guy historically that passed on filling the blank
Speaker 1: draft guy that blew up and became Josh Allen or
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes because you wanted Jared Goff after he won
Speaker 1: one playoff game, trying to have my slappy steaks to
Speaker 1: need him to you know, I wanna, I want to
Speaker 1: get the like he's in the running four comeback Player
Speaker 1: of the Year too. I just don't know what Jared
Speaker 1: Goff has to do to prove to you people that
Speaker 1: he should be the future in Detroit at this point, Well,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield want a playoff game, and look where you
Speaker 1: are a couple of years later. Just changes so quickly.
Speaker 1: I think he's Peter Schregar made a good point about golf.
Speaker 1: I believe on g MFB that he's also shown that
Speaker 1: he's a he's tough minded golf like he was kind
Speaker 1: of viewed as a bust early in his career. He
Speaker 1: came on and became a star for the Rams, and
Speaker 1: then was written off as it has been by the
Speaker 1: time he got to Detroit, and and here he is again.
Speaker 1: I think sometimes people just see Jared Goff and they're
Speaker 1: just like, there's a lot of this Alex Smith, Yes Smith,
Speaker 1: but he is he's not this, He's not he's not
Speaker 1: up all the way up here, but don't pass on
Speaker 1: your mahomes. If if if you have the number three
Speaker 1: overall pick and you and there's it falls the right
Speaker 1: to you, and you'll think, let me just couch it
Speaker 1: a little bit. If there's a guy you're sure about,
Speaker 1: a quarterback, if you're absolutely in love with somebody who
Speaker 1: you think is a superstar, go ahead and get him.
Speaker 1: Otherwise think hard, and then you might be wrong. He
Speaker 1: might be turned out to Zack Wilson, and then you
Speaker 1: still have Jared Goff just chilling there who needs coaches
Speaker 1: you know exactly. But in that case, then you you
Speaker 1: burn the draft pick. Like how great would the Jets
Speaker 1: be if they use that number two pick and got
Speaker 1: better on the team rather than take a gamble on
Speaker 1: a guy that you know he's making their decision really
Speaker 1: difficult right now. If it continues to play this way,
Speaker 1: it'll get worse. What kind of stakes do we have?
Speaker 1: What kind of spelling are you using? Mark for that
Speaker 1: last one that we just do well? I think the
Speaker 1: stakes are quite high for this individual, a former comeback
Speaker 1: player of the Year. I think stakes st e A
Speaker 1: K S sizzling for this person's future, Like the future
Speaker 1: of this individual. They're human future. Here he comes around
Speaker 1: the bend our old friend, Ryan Tannehill. Ryan Tannehill is
Speaker 1: sitting in Tennessee this in this situation, former comeback player
Speaker 1: of the Year, stuck in an offense with a bare
Speaker 1: bone cupboard, a GM that just got canned, an owner
Speaker 1: that said publicly this week, I don't like the way
Speaker 1: this roster is constructed. Ryan Tannell has not Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: He's not a Patrick mahomes Um. I think he's an
Speaker 1: acquired taste. I think Greg and I like Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: more than the average person. Maybe, but he lines up
Speaker 1: to me as a person with zero guaranteed money after
Speaker 1: this season and an appropriate fall guy when you've drafted
Speaker 1: the league. Willis And it's possible that if you look
Speaker 1: at the last time Tom Brady was out on the market,
Speaker 1: that Mike Rabel with Patriots connections could maybe be a
Speaker 1: team that could lure tom Brady in. Um, maybe they
Speaker 1: could trade for someone out there. And then just Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill's career is back in another dimension where he's got
Speaker 1: to start all over. I just think that Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: because I just find this the true underdog quarterback that
Speaker 1: is never really viewed for how valuable he's been in Tennessee.
Speaker 1: That if this team that is in a free fall
Speaker 1: right now, you've got four weeks to become the guy
Speaker 1: that turns it around, and we forget about this slump
Speaker 1: and we look at Ryan Tannehill once again as someone
Speaker 1: that can come in save an offense, and it's all about,
Speaker 1: let's keep Ryan Tannehill, let's pay them again, or the
Speaker 1: get fixed the guaranteed money situation and put an offense
Speaker 1: around him because he hasn't had that. How many good
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have so little around them right now with the
Speaker 1: record they have minus the last couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: a team that I think he fits so well and
Speaker 1: they love him. And if or or the whole thing
Speaker 1: goes south and he's looking for a job elsewhere, maybe
Speaker 1: he becomes Arthur Smith's Falcons quarterback. I would be shaken
Speaker 1: and and I'm already a little bit shaken. And what's
Speaker 1: going on over there in Nashville? Uh grave digger. But
Speaker 1: if they took A J. Brown off the roster, didn't
Speaker 1: truly replace him with anyone, and then blame the quarterback
Speaker 1: after the season was over and get him out of time.
Speaker 1: I could see them gutting the roster though, and Ryan
Speaker 1: Tannehill is not pay Ryan Tannehill. They could trade, well,
Speaker 1: he's under contract. I like his contract. It's weird that
Speaker 1: people think, like, oh, that's a lot for Ryan Tannell.
Speaker 1: Twenty seven million dollars is great for a starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: At this point, the cap has gone up so much
Speaker 1: he you could get a draft pick for Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: in a trade. The thing the thing about his contract
Speaker 1: is the cap hit this year is super high because
Speaker 1: they converted last year's guarantees and pushed him onto this year.
Speaker 1: But next year his contract gets a lot more manageable,
Speaker 1: so it's the last year of his country. He's sneaky
Speaker 1: thirty five though he was kind of old when he
Speaker 1: came in league. And he's thirty five. He's about to
Speaker 1: be next year. Sorry, he'll be thirty five. I would
Speaker 1: trade Derrick Henry if he had value before I would
Speaker 1: trade Ryan Tannell. There's a lot of Titans fans that
Speaker 1: are saying that Titans should have traded Henry around Week
Speaker 1: eight this year right now, but I understand like the
Speaker 1: idea like spinning forward as an organization how many truly
Speaker 1: elite years does he have left? Do you even count?
Speaker 1: This is an elite year where Henry. I think it
Speaker 1: also depends, like, does Malik Willis show enough that you
Speaker 1: feel comfortable moving on from Tannehill? Or can you get
Speaker 1: a Tom Brady and do you want him at this
Speaker 1: stage of his career. I don't think it can be
Speaker 1: because I think he seemed super raw and shaking. It's
Speaker 1: like a nice project. But I do think that if
Speaker 1: someone like Tom Brady and they were like, look at
Speaker 1: we've got we're gonna we got a new GM, a
Speaker 1: coach you you're aligned with, maybe Tom Brady already got
Speaker 1: there and said I don't like that GM, get this
Speaker 1: guy instead, And maybe I do like Rabel. I'll come
Speaker 1: do all this and get some pieces in place that
Speaker 1: I like. It's just like he was slightly connected to
Speaker 1: Rabel last time he was out there. Do you have
Speaker 1: eight o'clock to light? You want to do some speedy steaks?
Speaker 1: Donald Stakes, like throw him in that microwave there, Alright,
Speaker 1: we gotta get it in under time. Go ahead, Greg alright,
Speaker 1: se Kwan Berkley, free agent to be had his big
Speaker 1: comeback year. Can he stay healthy? Can he make it
Speaker 1: through a year? Can he carry this giant's team? Very good?
Speaker 1: Stakes are high there. Let's see the old jewser Oh no,
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready and I'm banging us my god. Um Oh,
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, he went from a punch line to a
Speaker 1: momentary hero. Can he keep it going and build his
Speaker 1: stakes even higher for next season? Mark all right, I
Speaker 1: have turned pro Mike McCarthy. I think he's done a
Speaker 1: great job. Congratulate this season. I don't see him as
Speaker 1: a zaddy on any level like you do. I think
Speaker 1: it's a great coach. Credit to him. He's got a
Speaker 1: titanic offense. There's really no excuses for that. Now, go
Speaker 1: to go win playoff games and you've got that. I
Speaker 1: saw the look on his face when they were losing
Speaker 1: the Texans, like he was sucking on a lemon. I
Speaker 1: don't want to see that at the end of a
Speaker 1: week eighteen or the week after, with Sean Payton hanging
Speaker 1: out there in the atmosphere and Mike McCarthy becoming an
Speaker 1: unfair fall guy. They got to keep him around. What happened,
Speaker 1: he said, a titanic offense. You know what happened to
Speaker 1: the Titanic, it sunk, finally became a movie that made
Speaker 1: a ton of money. So there's always a nice thing
Speaker 1: that can happen from those things. Bubble coaches Steve Wilkes,
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley, Dennis Allen, Lovey Smith. I'm not even bringing
Speaker 1: up in Navaniel Hackecks. I think he's done. Um. All
Speaker 1: those guys can't collapse. Their team has to finish strong
Speaker 1: or I think they're vulnerable. I throw Ron Rivera in
Speaker 1: there just because the ownership is changing. I think you
Speaker 1: got it onto the well, nailed it. That was good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Yet I got Drew, you know, Big seven seven Drew
Speaker 1: with the mask on the cap on getting into my
Speaker 1: I AM message, like, you guys are sixteen minutes in
Speaker 1: on the seg throwing it too Mark, you want to
Speaker 1: just skip the segre And I said, no, you didn't
Speaker 1: know about this sizzling steaks and how the stakes can
Speaker 1: be stakes in a second we did how many seconds?
Speaker 1: Drew wanted to cancel my part of the segment. He
Speaker 1: wanted He's like, let's wrap up the Mark thing and
Speaker 1: get out of the segment. Do Speedy come? What an
Speaker 1: absurd concept by you? He refuses to speak it's a
Speaker 1: clever move. Actually it makes him more mysterious. Camera. Can
Speaker 1: we at least give people watching on YouTube and surrounding territories.
Speaker 1: I would like to also get a time code. Let's
Speaker 1: get a time code on how long each of our
Speaker 1: segments inter segments were inside the segment itself? True? Can
Speaker 1: we can you at least turn into the camera his
Speaker 1: head shakings not bury the lead here. Mark wants to
Speaker 1: start individually keeping track of each part of our mini
Speaker 1: parts in this way, in this one particular case, it's
Speaker 1: like wrap it up, wrap it up on your previous
Speaker 1: interactions with producers, though, Mark, I would think you would
Speaker 1: love a producer that refuses to be on Mike. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you famously want to keep them in the shadows.
Speaker 1: I like, I liken joining some of them, to talk
Speaker 1: with some of them, but have been great. Drew is
Speaker 1: going the Wilson from Home Improvement d He's like, I'm
Speaker 1: on the other side of the fence. You'll never see me,
Speaker 1: you'll hear me, but maybe in a different way. It's perfect. Great,
Speaker 1: let's take a break and then it all paid off.
Speaker 1: I'll take a break and hit the Thursday night preview.
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Speaker 1: good one, real good, real good. What did Al Michael's
Speaker 1: call some of the games this year leaky on the
Speaker 1: Thursday night schedule. This one is not leaky. In fact,
Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite games of the week. The
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks. They need it, they need to win. They're
Speaker 1: watching their postseason hope slide away. And who is coming
Speaker 1: into their building? The rampaging San Francisco forty Niners with
Speaker 1: rock party at nine and four with a chance to
Speaker 1: put on a T shirt and a hat in Seattle.
Speaker 1: Gotta love it, Gotta love it. High steaks here as well. Well,
Speaker 1: How rare is it that there's a rare steak that's
Speaker 1: my corner? Like a rare steak, I'll get a medium
Speaker 1: are sometimes when it's like a little blue well, now
Speaker 1: you're basically a savage. That the way it was actually
Speaker 1: just in my mind conjuring the image, because I do
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Nuts, you're a feral animal,
Speaker 1: like a mountain lion in Griffith Park that just found
Speaker 1: like a buck. Go ahead the thing with a rare steak,
Speaker 1: though it's got to be like weirdly, it's almost more
Speaker 1: important that it's well cooked. So it's like when you're
Speaker 1: counting on, you're counting on precision, good nugget, you really
Speaker 1: counting on. All right, that wraps up another edition of
Speaker 1: Around the NFL. We'll be back on. So it's so
Speaker 1: strange that the forty Niners can clinch the division on
Speaker 1: Thursday night. It feels like there's so much left of
Speaker 1: the season four weeks and yet if the Seahawks win
Speaker 1: this game, they're like right in this division race. Like
Speaker 1: it's as massive as a Week fifteen game can be.
Speaker 1: And everything is trending against Seattle right now. Not only
Speaker 1: are they two games back over the last four weeks.
Speaker 1: And this is why I think Gino probably hasn't hurt
Speaker 1: himself that much. If you just when you watch them
Speaker 1: last four weeks or five weeks. Rather, according to Football Tiders,
Speaker 1: they are dead last and rushing in the NFL. They're
Speaker 1: the worst running team in the league. Maybe they get
Speaker 1: Kenneth Walker back for this game. They are twenty nine
Speaker 1: in defense, so we're right back to September when they
Speaker 1: were one of the worst defense in league. Within that
Speaker 1: their thirty one in the league defending the run. Over
Speaker 1: that those last uh four or five games, and you
Speaker 1: gotta play against San Francisco, who, finally this season and
Speaker 1: it's been coming, is starting to look like the running team.
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan wants to rack up over two hundred yards
Speaker 1: on the ground against a good Bucks run defense. With
Speaker 1: cmc resting the last twenty eight minutes of that game,
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a nightmare for the Sea. I
Speaker 1: thought getting a chance to rest so many Niners players
Speaker 1: was massive with it being Thursday night, and you are
Speaker 1: You're right. The Seahawks have allowed two hundred plus on
Speaker 1: the ground average over the last four weeks. I think
Speaker 1: that's where you point to, like, why hasn't Gino been
Speaker 1: as well supported and why is he had some of
Speaker 1: these fource plays. It's like, well, it's they're not. They
Speaker 1: don't have the Kenneth Walker blowing up the scene like
Speaker 1: they were earlier in the year. And the Niners on
Speaker 1: defense are gonna make it as tough as possible. Since
Speaker 1: that game, which feels so long ago, when they were
Speaker 1: blown up by the Chiefs, they have allowed in individual
Speaker 1: games fourteen sixteen, ten, zero, seventeen and seven points. They
Speaker 1: are the best defense in football right now. And I
Speaker 1: don't care if this is in Seattle or San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Can I don't know absolutely, you know what in a
Speaker 1: big spot it is. It is I on the fringe
Speaker 1: of death in the in the law competition. So I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna go with my heart on a lock in
Speaker 1: the Niners all right now. Who haven't been done before
Speaker 1: this early in the week. I've done a few Thursdays.
Speaker 1: Because here's the case. Why Mark is gonna be sweat
Speaker 1: and bullets on Thursday again, Thursday's weird. Thursday night is weird.
Speaker 1: Uh Seattle, that building is gonna be hopping. Uh. Seattle
Speaker 1: needs the game. And Pete Carroll is a good coach
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have these guys ready to defend their
Speaker 1: turf and make sure San Francisco isn't celebrating in their building,
Speaker 1: And yes, there are concerns here. When you look at
Speaker 1: the matchup itself, I totally agree. Um. I thought it
Speaker 1: was a borderline disgrace, and I think it factors in
Speaker 1: because it cost me a lock. But the way that
Speaker 1: defense got man handled in the fourth quarter by Caroliners
Speaker 1: Caroline is like it was like cadre cadre. He no, amotized. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've been amortized all season, she said, amortized, just atize.
Speaker 1: Give her, Give her a break. She's been eating raw
Speaker 1: meter entire life. She's worms inside her. Um, Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: is gonna eat. And they're gonna use mccaffre to help
Speaker 1: protect brock Purty and not ask him to do too much.
Speaker 1: But you're still gonna be asking, uh, this kid to
Speaker 1: make big throws in a very dificult environment. So well,
Speaker 1: if I had to pick a side, I would obviously
Speaker 1: say forty Niners. But this game, I feel like, with
Speaker 1: all the various things up in the air in terms
Speaker 1: of the matchup, in the sight of the matchup, and
Speaker 1: then when it is in the week, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's gonna go down, go down. To the very end.
Speaker 1: One little, one little tiny out I'd have is if
Speaker 1: we found out in the next two days that this
Speaker 1: oblique injury for Purdy john him out and they put
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson in there and locking that up. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up, because in general, I
Speaker 1: feel like you shouldn't be able to get out of
Speaker 1: the lock unless there's like a quarterback injury or something significant.
Speaker 1: Just moving off a lock for the sake of it feels.
Speaker 1: I also know a ton of people on on these
Speaker 1: like there's these Reddit like people like, no, they shouldn't.
Speaker 1: It's just it's like, I don't think we can do
Speaker 1: whatever the heck we want. But that would be one
Speaker 1: situation where it's suddenly Josh Johnson is starting. No logical
Speaker 1: individual would lock that on the road in Seattle in
Speaker 1: a must win game. But I think he's playing. Everything
Speaker 1: we hear is that it was more they got good
Speaker 1: news on it. They won't have Deebo Samuel. Of course
Speaker 1: I don't care. Do we know that they're just hoping
Speaker 1: he comes back by the end of the regular season.
Speaker 1: So he's out multiple weeks. Yeah, so they're gonna need
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey to help step up. Thank I mean the
Speaker 1: fact that they traded for him, brought him in that
Speaker 1: helps them immensely. At this point without Deebo, they're gonna
Speaker 1: need Jown Jennings to get more involved. They already used
Speaker 1: him a lot on third down, but just at the
Speaker 1: wide receiver position. And then the thing about brock Purty,
Speaker 1: if he is good to go with the oblique and
Speaker 1: the rib injury on a short week, it would be
Speaker 1: great for him to start in this game at Seattle
Speaker 1: in that atmosphere ahead of a playoff game like that
Speaker 1: is a situation that you want to throw him in
Speaker 1: and see how he reacts, because he looked really good
Speaker 1: this week, but that's not how it's going to be
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He has shown so much though that
Speaker 1: I don't think you can teach like. He has a
Speaker 1: great feel of the pocket. We know his nickname in
Speaker 1: the locker room that rhymes with brock and it's big,
Speaker 1: and I saw a little bit of that. You haven't
Speaker 1: heard that, no, no, but a lot of it. I
Speaker 1: backed myself into a corner here when he is going
Speaker 1: what have you done? Greg? Across the goal line on
Speaker 1: his rushing touchdown, and he already starts like sticking out
Speaker 1: the ball at the other thing, like he is a
Speaker 1: very confident sticking out player, sticking out the football. You know,
Speaker 1: he's declaring in there, very very confident. They're doing no
Speaker 1: huddle like in his first start, Like he has shown
Speaker 1: some real deal stuff as a quarterback. And the Seahawks
Speaker 1: are thirty first over the last month because they're bad
Speaker 1: at everything. They don't rush the passer well at all,
Speaker 1: and he'll have time to throw. Greg, you did a
Speaker 1: good job getting through that with Dan just chiding you
Speaker 1: the entire time and off in his own little childhood world.
Speaker 1: Uh No, Whenever you could lock up Mr ir Relevant
Speaker 1: on the road with on the Thursday night, you do it.
Speaker 1: So I think it's a good lot. Why not do
Speaker 1: something gutsy versus just mailing a six and a half
Speaker 1: point favorite or something. To me, this is not like
Speaker 1: like implications on the line too when I'm picking on you,
Speaker 1: But I think this is right in between, like they're
Speaker 1: a heavy favorite. It would be shocking in the way
Speaker 1: the seas are playing for me to I would we
Speaker 1: believe in you have to in the power rankings, like
Speaker 1: they are a much better team than the Seas. The
Speaker 1: only reason I wouldn't lock it is I like the Seas.
Speaker 1: I want to root for them. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: be rooting against it, but I'd be stunned if they
Speaker 1: won this game. I'm with you, Mark, I believe in
Speaker 1: your I think it's a great lock um. I don't
Speaker 1: make fix on the show, but I am taking you
Speaker 1: could take this particular lock once, right, just for fun.
Speaker 1: That might be bad for my record, my overall lo
Speaker 1: Actually I think I have, but it's been there's like
Speaker 1: a website Satty's. We'd have to have our own nickname too.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that the lockouts? What doesn't work
Speaker 1: for me? The ladies, the lackeys, another thing to workshop
Speaker 1: in real time? All right, what's my record? I don't know.
Speaker 1: It turns out that we don't have that data. I
Speaker 1: don't figure that's convenient. It's convenient, um, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: you were doing very well if it was tracked. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: go for it, you'll get it. Will only advance your record,
Speaker 1: you know what. But feeling that like you and I
Speaker 1: are on the same frequency today, so I will lock
Speaker 1: them up. Look at that? What are the stakes on that?
Speaker 1: Slop air, Yes, but I think you guys will come
Speaker 1: out of it. There's something about locking Thursday too. It's
Speaker 1: so nerve wracking. There's it's the only another thing about
Speaker 1: last week. Sitting on the couch, you know, Daddy pours
Speaker 1: a Tito's and I thought to myself, this is literally
Speaker 1: the only game all week where I just get to
Speaker 1: sit down and watch it and I don't have to
Speaker 1: go do a podcast after or work before. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna watch this game. I don't need the stakes of
Speaker 1: a lock. You are right, I will say I locked
Speaker 1: a Thursday game a couple of weeks ago, and it
Speaker 1: was well in hand, and it wasn't It only added
Speaker 1: to that joyment, right, But what if it goes the
Speaker 1: other way? But it has gone the other way? But
Speaker 1: I am sitting in third place. Um, I have plenty
Speaker 1: of other things to be concerned about beyond the locked situation.
Speaker 1: This this pantomime of a game that we play, and
Speaker 1: if I were to ever lose on Thursday night, I
Speaker 1: would somehow survive the situation. Okay, you know, eat you
Speaker 1: up a little bit, though I already am in that
Speaker 1: I've been eaten up because I don't see myself winning
Speaker 1: this at this point. So now I'm doing wild things
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do lock offs with people from here
Speaker 1: on out and try to like, I mean, you guys
Speaker 1: are acting like that this thing is over the trophy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's four weeks after the regular season. There's five weeks.
Speaker 1: There's literally nine weeks left. Yeah, we could do the
Speaker 1: ceremony right now. We want the trophy. She was, take
Speaker 1: it out of my foyer, sitting on the marble um presentation.
Speaker 1: You don't have to put something else Thereade, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm familiar with it. I had it, so I know
Speaker 1: what it looks already. But it's time for you to
Speaker 1: have it again because it's over now. The trophies. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm back in this house. Nine nine weeks to go?
Speaker 1: Where's my marble presentation? Nine weeks? It's almost half the season.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine living with me? That's what they said.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, let's pick the game. You
Speaker 1: guys will be happy. It will be No, let's go
Speaker 1: the other way. Let's get behind the Seahawks, keeping their
Speaker 1: season alive. Pardy gets brought down to earth a little bit.
Speaker 1: They'll still be okay. Just for fun, I thinks will win.
Speaker 1: I think they will cover. Does anyone know what what
Speaker 1: the line is on this game and a half? Three
Speaker 1: and a half, Yeah, I think I would definitely like
Speaker 1: the forty Niners there. I hope it doesn't happen, but
Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks three Niners thirty three. That would
Speaker 1: be pretty similar to the Week two game. It is
Speaker 1: stuck in my mind that three the Seahawks offense did
Speaker 1: not score a point against the forty Niners in Week two.
Speaker 1: And then there's a different though I get it, but
Speaker 1: that was this seat. He didn't play that bad. That
Speaker 1: was seven to seven though. Uh they So you are
Speaker 1: writing and he's not planning to write you back. It's
Speaker 1: more about I don't know him not. But I think
Speaker 1: this is like like Tom Brady, I'm not writing tom
Speaker 1: Brady off. I'm not entirely writing too off either. They
Speaker 1: were demolished by the Stephen Seahawks score three points in
Speaker 1: their building with their season kind of on the line here,
Speaker 1: that's that's gonna be an indictment of the entire operation.
Speaker 1: So they need to step up in this. It would
Speaker 1: be alright, as they say, that's the good stuff, and
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Speaker 1: will be heading to Buffalo. I'm so pumped. I can't
Speaker 1: joy that. I hope it snows so much, so hard.
Speaker 1: Who is Buffalo playing in that game? The Dolphins? Where
Speaker 1: did the Dolphins play Miami? From me? Can you give
Speaker 1: me a amortized in an old juicer accent amatized, amazed,
Speaker 1: amatized here as I sling my pizza pizza over here? Now,
Speaker 1: what a business? All right, thanks everybody for listening. We'll
Speaker 1: be back Thursday. Until then, you know what you need
Speaker 1: to do. Heat the call, se