Speaker 1: What's up you A bunch of lovable human beings? It
Speaker 1: is uh oh, I'm supposed to welcome y'all. Yes, the
Speaker 1: season two sixty eight, episode one of The Daily See Guys,
Speaker 1: a production of My Heart Radio. This is the I Guess,
Speaker 1: a podcast for open discussion that is distributed in podcast
Speaker 1: form that takes a deep dive into america shared consciousness.
Speaker 1: It's Monday, December nine, and I have to take a
Speaker 1: beat because it's mature. Today National oatmeal muffin Day and
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah yeah, and also National card candy Day.
Speaker 1: But not about the nail polish that I used to
Speaker 1: buy the girls that hat crushes on in the nineties.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the actual confectionery delight of hard can. Okay,
Speaker 1: but just letting people know, just letting people know. My
Speaker 1: name is Miles Gray, a k A sweet cvs. But
Speaker 1: but bug even do you hear what I said? I said,
Speaker 1: butt blog sCOD you're talking about he cvs buttlow that
Speaker 1: Jaker Carlson lost it over. That's from LOCKERRONI on the
Speaker 1: discord and shout out to you for that one. Shout
Speaker 1: out against Meal Diamond as well. And yes, I'm hosting
Speaker 1: so I'm thrilled to welcome my guest co host today. Somebody, look,
Speaker 1: it's a Monday. This is my fellow partner in the
Speaker 1: upcoming show Washed Ones that hasn't come out yet, but
Speaker 1: we keep talking about it. It's an idea we keep
Speaker 1: throwing around. This man is a wonderful man. He's a
Speaker 1: fantastic producer, he's a fantastic host. He's a sick ass
Speaker 1: DJ okay and I don't know producer, he does all
Speaker 1: kinds of ship man whatever. You already know who it
Speaker 1: is is Djan Happy to be here, Miles DJ daniel
Speaker 1: a k A. I actually saw that Meal Diamond play
Speaker 1: in New York and wait, there's an musical or whatever. Yeah, there's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's something craft Camember something noise like that wonderful noise
Speaker 1: and the noise bringing the funk. I believe, yeah exactly,
Speaker 1: you know, as a jukebox musical. It did great. I
Speaker 1: wasn't prepared for that to be what it was at
Speaker 1: the beginning, but then I heard all these people singing
Speaker 1: behind me and I was like, oh, it's like that,
Speaker 1: Oh it sounds good A right, I guess yeah. In
Speaker 1: my mind being like paying for a ticket and then
Speaker 1: hearing once people stream Neil Diamond at the back of
Speaker 1: my head is not what I would I guess, not
Speaker 1: an experience I can foresee myself enjoying. But I am
Speaker 1: right into it. Yeah, the best, the best part, best
Speaker 1: quote quote unquote best part was that the dude behind
Speaker 1: me in the first ten minutes of the play was like,
Speaker 1: they're going to kick me out to his wife. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh no, real loud, like they're gonna kick
Speaker 1: me out. And then I realized why. It was because
Speaker 1: on every song he would sing along off key and
Speaker 1: off beat. So when we got to Sweet Caroline, which
Speaker 1: was the act break, he was just it was like
Speaker 1: it was bursting out of his chest every time he
Speaker 1: went so good, so good, so very um. It was
Speaker 1: really exciting. It was thrilling. I was happy to be there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're gonna kick literally your shirt back on, Roger, They're
Speaker 1: gonna kick me out. You're kicking me out. I gotta
Speaker 1: get my shirt off to this one. Um. Anyway, thanks
Speaker 1: for being here now, good to see my pleasure. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's a pleasure. Happy to see this. Well, look, yes,
Speaker 1: do people know what time it is? People know about
Speaker 1: to find out? Do people know that we're about to
Speaker 1: bring actor actorvist Wow, producer Wow coming from the shy
Speaker 1: pulling up to my podcast. Oh man, without much further ado,
Speaker 1: please welcome Basion double you rhymed daboo with ad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah that I did that something much Ado. I'm glad
Speaker 1: to be back. Thank you all for having me back.
Speaker 1: I love being here. Appreciate it. Yeah, her majesty, My
Speaker 1: wife just started watching How to Get Away with Murder.
Speaker 1: You know, okay, be like, YO might know somebody, somebody
Speaker 1: who's working with that. You might know somebody who knows
Speaker 1: as soon she's gonna start hating my character, even though
Speaker 1: my character is the only person acting with morals on
Speaker 1: that show. Exactly. Let him know. How you how are
Speaker 1: you feeling about your bulls? Just gonna get I always
Speaker 1: think of you when I watched the Chicago Bulls. Here's
Speaker 1: the problem, Miles. I'm a Laker fan. Oh that's right,
Speaker 1: you're Lebron. Huh you big Lebron fan, big big Kobe fan,
Speaker 1: big Lebron fan. I've been a Laker fans nine out five. Okay,
Speaker 1: good for you. Yeah, okay, you's good people, Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. It's Tally fan. I've been a Laker fans since,
Speaker 1: like since the Cedric Saballos, Eddie Jones, Nick Van Axel
Speaker 1: got the two three on you, Like, okay, I like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know with the NBA, have always been a
Speaker 1: guy to who like follows all the teams though, right,
Speaker 1: so team so of course in the nineties, I loved
Speaker 1: m J. I had the starter, I had the Orlando
Speaker 1: Magic Penny hard Way starter jacket. I had them. I
Speaker 1: was wearing Grant Hill Red Pistons jerseys, you know. So
Speaker 1: I loved all that. I even love that, Like there
Speaker 1: was like the Mitch Richmond Chris Mullen Warriors teams. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: But but in my heart, I'm a Lakers fan. Good
Speaker 1: for you, Good for you. It's hard times, hard times
Speaker 1: for your service. And also you know we got a
Speaker 1: d you know, fellow Chicagoan, so it all works out.
Speaker 1: It was hard to be a Laker fan for my
Speaker 1: eleven years in Chicago, though, I bet, yeah, it's hard
Speaker 1: to be a Laker fan, you just in general, I
Speaker 1: would say emotionally, yeah, I'm learning more as I do
Speaker 1: the basketball podcast. I'm like, I have to let go.
Speaker 1: It's weird because I think I get so turned up
Speaker 1: because I feel the wind so hard that in order
Speaker 1: for me to feel those I also have to feel
Speaker 1: the loss. Is really hard to like. That's just how
Speaker 1: it is, you know, And I'm fine. I bought the ticket.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to go through it. Well, we gotta. Every
Speaker 1: time I would get on the podcast, I I like
Speaker 1: make a note to myself, I'm like, don't just talk
Speaker 1: about the NBA the whole time when a podcast. That's
Speaker 1: when I'm a chance. I'm like, oh no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about a lot more. Actually nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the NBA, because surprise, Rhonda Santist is making
Speaker 1: fucking moves, all right. He's establishing his anti vax spread.
Speaker 1: The election narrative, I believe, is starting to form, and it's, uh,
Speaker 1: we'll get into what that looks like. We'll also talk
Speaker 1: about how the Republicans might win if there's a third
Speaker 1: party spoiler fucking ticket entering the race, which it looks
Speaker 1: like that may be happening. Generally, we'll talk about some
Speaker 1: stuff going on in the world of I don't know Avatar,
Speaker 1: because Avatar just came out talking about post Avatar depression syndrome.
Speaker 1: Because it is it's this ship is happening, and I know,
Speaker 1: like back in the day, we're like, yeah, okay, But
Speaker 1: as as the years progress, it does seem to have
Speaker 1: a real effect on people and may just be a
Speaker 1: further indication of our general lack of connection, which I
Speaker 1: think it's interesting to dive into. But first before we
Speaker 1: do all that, we gotta ask you, Bezod, what is
Speaker 1: something from your search history that is revealing about who
Speaker 1: you are or what's you're into? Um, the classic I
Speaker 1: forgot to look, which one do? I say? Okay, So
Speaker 1: recently in my search history I typed in, I like,
Speaker 1: have restaurant prices gone up? And obviously they have with
Speaker 1: everything right, But what I'm noticing is that I don't
Speaker 1: understand how like I used to order, I'm ordering the
Speaker 1: same meals from the same restaurants, and what was like, oh,
Speaker 1: thirty eight dollars is now like sixty four dollars, And
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait, but how, but how? And then you
Speaker 1: look it up and it'll be like, oh, this dish
Speaker 1: went up three dollars, and this wish went up three dollars,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, the tip and the charge
Speaker 1: and the butt and and I guess what I've noticed though,
Speaker 1: is that the prices are different if you get delivery
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah yeah, there's like there's like a door
Speaker 1: dash price and then like if you call the restaurant price,
Speaker 1: m yeah. And that is fascinating to me because I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: on the menu on the website it says this entree is,
Speaker 1: but on my price is saying yep. I think it's
Speaker 1: just to offset a lot of the like potential money
Speaker 1: they'd lose from using door dash basically, and that's the
Speaker 1: only way to keep sales up while also being able
Speaker 1: to be part of that ecosystem of like delivery services
Speaker 1: and things like that. They're trying to cut out the
Speaker 1: door dash cut basically get the same amount of money
Speaker 1: for what you're ordering, but still be able to pay
Speaker 1: off door Dash, which you know about them shots yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think, yeah, generally, uh yeah, it turns out, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're all feeling that inflation on some level. It's like
Speaker 1: like the only thing that's gotten cheaper is weed, but
Speaker 1: facts this ship is cheap as ship man. Redispensaries like, man,
Speaker 1: come in, man, it's fifty off everything, and you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my ship man, this energy is so weird. I
Speaker 1: have to I have to make a trip. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize that. I didn't quite catch a lot of a
Speaker 1: lot of these places have every day there's like a special.
Speaker 1: It used to be like a special happen like every
Speaker 1: other week or something. And now I feel more. I
Speaker 1: think it's just generally the prices are coming down, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, my place has like a wheel that you
Speaker 1: spend you know, will you spin the wheel and we'll
Speaker 1: be like you off edibles or of half a half
Speaker 1: off the joint or something right right. I just thought
Speaker 1: that was illegal where they were just serving it out
Speaker 1: of bags, like they're like how much you want? They're
Speaker 1: like all right, They're like all right, thirty bucks. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: shout out the people who are trying to get around
Speaker 1: those dumbass licenses. Anyway, based on what something you think
Speaker 1: is overrated, not everywhere, but most of the time, what
Speaker 1: I think is overrated is the like the World Landmark
Speaker 1: at a lace, like a tourist destinations like World Landmark
Speaker 1: is often overrated. I went to San Antonio, I went
Speaker 1: to the Alamo. The Alamo is overrated. It's right across
Speaker 1: the street from the Hooters. It's not that big. It's
Speaker 1: just the building and you're like, okay, there's a river walk,
Speaker 1: you go to Italy, you go to leaning tower, a pizza,
Speaker 1: leaning tower, pizza is overrated. Boring, boring and leaning towers
Speaker 1: literally everywhere. And it doesn't mean that like the place
Speaker 1: is bad. There's lots of exciting things, Like I think
Speaker 1: Venice is a beautiful place, but that like bridge everybody
Speaker 1: goes under under the randola, Yeah that's not it's just
Speaker 1: a little where I proposed to my fiance. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't have any You're right. I feel the same way
Speaker 1: about the taj Mahal, Like I got to the taj
Speaker 1: Mahal was beautiful, Like it's a beautiful building and it's
Speaker 1: a play is overrated. It's overrated because it's not as
Speaker 1: big as you think. It's not as a right, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because yeah, that's the one thing I remember hearing like
Speaker 1: as a kid, where some like a teacher was like
Speaker 1: and a lot of the photos they the scale isn't
Speaker 1: the same and it looks much larger in the photos
Speaker 1: or whatever. But I get that. Oh now I want
Speaker 1: to see it before my people come at me. It
Speaker 1: is incredible, It is moving. I love just smaller than
Speaker 1: you thought. That's a beautiful place. And and I just
Speaker 1: I feel that way a lot. Like I haven't been
Speaker 1: to the Pyramids, but my friend went recently and said
Speaker 1: that you you're at the Pyramids and it's amazing, but
Speaker 1: you turn around and you see like a KFC in
Speaker 1: the Starbucks in the distance. That's my favorite. There's that
Speaker 1: picture of the Pyramids when you go like twenty feet
Speaker 1: back and you're taking the same picture from inside of
Speaker 1: pizza hut. I love that. Oh you could you could
Speaker 1: get a flick from a pizza hut of the pizza. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the chap that's dope. And so I don't know that
Speaker 1: I think it's overrated, but I've I've been traveling a
Speaker 1: bit recently, and what I'm noticing that was like the
Speaker 1: things that aren't the main landmark, the thing that isn't
Speaker 1: on the postcard is was has been my favorite stuff?
Speaker 1: Like what? Okay? So for like me a thing where
Speaker 1: you said, in ex city, everyone goes to see this,
Speaker 1: I in fact got the most satisfaction out of seeing this. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: so like in Rome, for example, we recently went to
Speaker 1: Rome and and everybody, obviously they go to the Vatican
Speaker 1: to see the cathedrals there, and then they basilicas there,
Speaker 1: and then they also go to the Colosseum. But in
Speaker 1: in my opinion, like some of these other amazing duomos
Speaker 1: that you can go into, these other amazing basilicas you
Speaker 1: can go to, that we were just like walking and
Speaker 1: like finding were more interesting to me, more beautiful to me.
Speaker 1: The the Pantheon inside was actually more impressive to me
Speaker 1: than inside the Colosseum. And you know, it's just like
Speaker 1: those things you don't often talk about. We went, we
Speaker 1: drove through the small town and we we we wanted
Speaker 1: to get some food and we stopped in this place
Speaker 1: called or viet Though, and it's outside of Rome, and
Speaker 1: I had never heard of it in my entire life.
Speaker 1: And there's this massive duomo, one of the largest basilicas
Speaker 1: in the world, is in the small all town called
Speaker 1: or Though. I had never heard of it, and it
Speaker 1: was the most beautiful thing I had ever seen. But
Speaker 1: it's not the Vatican. Yeah, and there was no line
Speaker 1: and it was four euro to get in, you know,
Speaker 1: so many like yeah, it's also too just funny, how
Speaker 1: like so much historical context is like stripped out of
Speaker 1: like these places like and here's the album, or y'all
Speaker 1: don't worry about William Barrett Travis. Uh was that guy
Speaker 1: just fighting a preserved slavery? I don't know whatever, let's
Speaker 1: just fucking you know what it is? Uh? Based on
Speaker 1: what is something you think is underrated? Alright? I feel
Speaker 1: strongly about this. Go ahead covers by like really good
Speaker 1: covers of songs. Oh okay, yeah, yeah, yeah great. Could
Speaker 1: not co sign this harder, like even sometimes by there
Speaker 1: by the own artists, but they do their own song differently,
Speaker 1: like on a stripped album or like an unplugged album.
Speaker 1: They might do it later sometimes, Like one of my
Speaker 1: favorite artists from like the eighties and nineties are doing
Speaker 1: songs like they're doing covers now on like a talk show,
Speaker 1: but they can't hit the same notes, so they do
Speaker 1: it different. And covers are so underrated to me that
Speaker 1: I end up hearing the original and I'm like, Nah,
Speaker 1: where's that cover that really hit? Where's the cover? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And I've been noticing as I've been in my car
Speaker 1: with name, I'm like, like like, there's a Pattie Smith cover
Speaker 1: of Nirvana smells like teen Spirit. And and then the
Speaker 1: other day I was in the I was on like
Speaker 1: Apple Music or whatever, and I had like a nineties
Speaker 1: playlist on and smells like teen Spirit came on and
Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I actually got off and like
Speaker 1: searched to find my Patti Smith cover because like the
Speaker 1: cover hit harder for me. So I think covers are underrated.
Speaker 1: Go I love it too, cover. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: I think one of the class examples of this is
Speaker 1: Johnny Cash Hurt over the Nine Inch Nails version, which
Speaker 1: just like, I mean, it completely steals the show and
Speaker 1: just what you're you're you're a stand for the for
Speaker 1: the night and snails. Yeah, yeah, I mean, like I
Speaker 1: get it, but I'm not. I look, I get the
Speaker 1: appeal of the Johnny Cash version. That ship always made
Speaker 1: me laugh. The music video is, you know, because that
Speaker 1: music is right before he died. It's like, all I'm
Speaker 1: black and white and he's like in that like broke
Speaker 1: down house, He's like, I hurt myself today, and I
Speaker 1: had to because my grandma was I was like, I
Speaker 1: thought he fell down okay, But there's that's how I saw,
Speaker 1: like it re contextualized the lyrics because that first I
Speaker 1: hurt myself today sounds like he like oh, he tumbled
Speaker 1: off his step stool trying to reach for a pot
Speaker 1: or something. Another one that was like, there's a disturbed
Speaker 1: sound of Silence. There's a sound of Silence by Disturbed,
Speaker 1: and if when you google it or YouTube, the best
Speaker 1: version is actually the version they did on co in right,
Speaker 1: So they do this live version on Conan and it's
Speaker 1: Disturbed doing sound of Silence and I think it's incredible.
Speaker 1: And then there's also the band Heart doing Stairway to
Speaker 1: Heaven led Zeppelin Stairway to Heaven at the Kennedy Center Honors.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are incredible covers, and for I would say,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the bowl statement here. Maybe I don't
Speaker 1: agree with it, but I just made one saying I
Speaker 1: didn't like the Johnny Cash Hurt cover. Only go ahead
Speaker 1: for all three that I just mentioned. I think the
Speaker 1: the cover is stronger than the original. M hmm okay.
Speaker 1: And those are I know those are like some of
Speaker 1: the greatest songs of all time. But Daniel, what's your
Speaker 1: favorite color cover aside from the Hurt Johnny Cash? Do
Speaker 1: you have them? I feel like I have to go
Speaker 1: back to the rolodexcident, and it's hard to ask a
Speaker 1: music guy who's being like, we'll have I have a
Speaker 1: playlist of seven covers. I'll say you there's there's one
Speaker 1: that went from I really don't like it to actually
Speaker 1: I do kind of like it, which is the end.
Speaker 1: You know, this is soft ass Daniill coming out here.
Speaker 1: But the Iron and Wine cover of Such Great Heights
Speaker 1: by Pulsal Service cover it's super soft. But man, I
Speaker 1: didn't like it at first because I was like, Pulsar
Speaker 1: Service Want is so much better. But now I hear
Speaker 1: it in different settings and it's just like this is
Speaker 1: really gentle and nice and like super I don't know,
Speaker 1: just it gets in your fields like a rainy day
Speaker 1: song looking out the window, miles. I do have hundreds
Speaker 1: and hundreds and hundreds of covers on like on my playlist,
Speaker 1: Like I may make a covers playlist and put that
Speaker 1: ship in public. You don't let people get into get
Speaker 1: into your There'll be some songs that I'll have like
Speaker 1: twelve covers of yeah, right right right, Oh wow. There's
Speaker 1: a different covers of Yeah. One of the weird songs
Speaker 1: that there's a cover by the Suburbs by Arcade Fire
Speaker 1: that's done by Mr Little Jeans, that was the first
Speaker 1: time that got me to like that song because it's
Speaker 1: really stiffed, stripped down and like senty. But anyway, that's look, look,
Speaker 1: that's we're all here to talk music, baby, But yeah,
Speaker 1: check out bas Odds cover playlist coming soon. If you
Speaker 1: will make that public and he will share those riches
Speaker 1: with all of us. Let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll come back to talk about their angland over there
Speaker 1: on the right right after this and we are back.
Speaker 1: It turns out Rhonda Santis, I think we at this
Speaker 1: point we're like, yeah, he's gonna run for president. We
Speaker 1: just don't know when what the strategy is going to be.
Speaker 1: Even though he's being very coy, I think we all
Speaker 1: can see what's happening, Like, how could a narcissist look
Speaker 1: at the Poland numbers and say, no, I don't need
Speaker 1: they're screaming for me. Anyway. De Santis is creating headlines
Speaker 1: recently with his new investigation into the pandemic and the
Speaker 1: actions of public health officials and pharmaceutical companies. This is
Speaker 1: a quote from local papers. Quote at a round table
Speaker 1: he convened of COVID vaccine skeptics and opponents, including his
Speaker 1: own surgeon general. He formally called on the state Supreme
Speaker 1: Court to him handle a grand jury to investigate whether
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical companies criminally misled Floridians about the side effects of vaccines,
Speaker 1: a position at odds with the Centers for Disease Control
Speaker 1: and Prevention. So he's going he's embarking on an inquest
Speaker 1: into the pandemic basically and vaccines and mandates and things
Speaker 1: of that nature right now when in a poll of Republicans,
Speaker 1: less than thirty percent of Republicans think that public health
Speaker 1: officials handled the pandemic in people's personal freedoms in a
Speaker 1: good way. And De Santis is probably taking note that,
Speaker 1: you know, election denialism and like overt racism aren't the
Speaker 1: best hands to play right now, especially you know, if
Speaker 1: the point is differentiating yourself from Trump. So it looks
Speaker 1: like he's going to use like COVID as maybe his
Speaker 1: first battle ground to begin the like I'm not like
Speaker 1: him sort of campaign, because I think it's it's an
Speaker 1: issue that clearly has like the right enraged still about
Speaker 1: like the they look what they did to us. And
Speaker 1: at the same time he can basically call Trump like
Speaker 1: a vaccine simple and be like, yeah, and I let
Speaker 1: that ship cook in Florida and look at us. Now
Speaker 1: the economy did okay and only thousands of people died.
Speaker 1: But I think that that's it's starting to look like
Speaker 1: that's gonna be maybe the first sort of beginnings of
Speaker 1: being like is this your king? Is this your King's
Speaker 1: not gonna question about all this because it's it's very
Speaker 1: clear that they're trying to distance themselves from like Trump people,
Speaker 1: as it were, because you know, Trump is a very
Speaker 1: negative narrative on the GOP. However, there's still a lot
Speaker 1: of those people who are voters, and Rhonda Santa seemed
Speaker 1: like a nice easy follow up, so like, if he's
Speaker 1: going to shoot on Trump, is this not just I mean,
Speaker 1: I think this is also a pertaining to kind of
Speaker 1: like the next story that we're talking about, about, like
Speaker 1: you know, this spoiler ticket, but like, are we not
Speaker 1: just further splitting the party even if the thing that
Speaker 1: you are fighting for is like a GOP talking point
Speaker 1: being like COVID denial of him, were it not working out?
Speaker 1: But then being like, well Trump was a COVID simp,
Speaker 1: Like is that is that not? I feel like, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, not that I really care about them running
Speaker 1: a bad angle, but like that just feels like you're
Speaker 1: you're making half a good point. I feel they always
Speaker 1: do that though, Like remember there's all these videos of
Speaker 1: like Ted Cruz and and Graham talking about how if
Speaker 1: Trump is elected that's the end of the party, and
Speaker 1: then they go on like simping firm forever. I think
Speaker 1: that's what they do. You know, DEM's do it too,
Speaker 1: write like Kamala Harris and Biden. We're going at each
Speaker 1: other before they weren't, which actually leads me to my like,
Speaker 1: my question is I know I think Pence is running.
Speaker 1: I think we know that. I think running. Trump is running.
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be Trump's VP? That's my he's gonna I
Speaker 1: think he's going to pick a personal color, to be honest,
Speaker 1: really person walk he'd go like Tim Scott, maybe Senator
Speaker 1: Tim Scott, or like Carrie Lake, although I don't I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what her ethnic background is, but she she's
Speaker 1: she's to me ethnically ambiguous, uh and certainly like is
Speaker 1: willing to scream the Maga Gospel at the top of
Speaker 1: her lungs. So I don't know. I mean, it's really
Speaker 1: hard to know because At the same time, Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: campaign hasn't done ship since they announced, Like they haven't
Speaker 1: had one fucking event aside from that announcement. And that's
Speaker 1: not true. I mean they released Trump digital cards. I
Speaker 1: don't know what we're talking about. And have you seen that?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you mean that money laundering ship and they
Speaker 1: sold out and they're already worth double right now on
Speaker 1: the market, which is crazy to me. Yeah, well, that's
Speaker 1: that's the RUG poll of all RUG polls, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people are looking at like one of I'm
Speaker 1: I have to I don't know if I I saw
Speaker 1: a post, like from an extract from an article that
Speaker 1: said that they like some of the marl Lago documents
Speaker 1: that were seeing is like show a connection between this
Speaker 1: n f T project and this other person and sort
Speaker 1: of being like, oh, are you just trying to pay
Speaker 1: this guy four and a half million dollars but doing
Speaker 1: that through this quote unquote i f T Project. More
Speaker 1: on that to come, I'm sure as more news comes out,
Speaker 1: But yeah, that is about the gist of what's going
Speaker 1: on over there. But yeah, I think the main thing is,
Speaker 1: like Daniel, your point isn't to be like your fuck
Speaker 1: this guy He's not gonna necessarily say like Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: whack as fuck. He's just gonna lean on the fact
Speaker 1: he's like, I never did that. I never did this.
Speaker 1: I never He's gonna be using I statements like in
Speaker 1: Couples movie. He's not gonna be making this motherfucker statements,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's gonna be like, I
Speaker 1: am the one who doesn't give a fuck, I am
Speaker 1: down for freedoms at all pots, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I think that's what I mean as the first part.
Speaker 1: So people can begin to say, that's right. Donald Trump did.
Speaker 1: Remember that one rally, He's like and obviously I created
Speaker 1: the vaccine, and then like half the rally was like boo.
Speaker 1: He's like, al read, folks, it works. But whatever, do
Speaker 1: what you want to do. That's on y'all. So I
Speaker 1: think that's sort of where it's all gonna happen. And
Speaker 1: I think it's very I think, very very clever, right,
Speaker 1: because if you start off your campaign like this, you're
Speaker 1: kind of bringing together people's anger at pharmaceutical companies, the media, government,
Speaker 1: and COVID fatigue, and you're turning it into this omni
Speaker 1: crisis that he is fit to do battle with I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that strategy has like the legs
Speaker 1: to go at an entire presidential campaign. But that's a
Speaker 1: start to begin to just not be like and I
Speaker 1: fucking hate browns and gays, which is what most MAGA
Speaker 1: candidates are probably gonna lead off with. He's trying to
Speaker 1: do the man. COVID was bullshit. We need to look
Speaker 1: into what they did to us. And I think that's
Speaker 1: a very intoxicating, appealing, uh probably like election narrative for
Speaker 1: people to follow in the beginning, But we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens all that. To say, the raptors are learning, you know,
Speaker 1: they've been testing the perimeter fences and they know a
Speaker 1: bunch of clever girls. Yeah, that's what I've been saying,
Speaker 1: Like that's Rhonda Santis to me is the Raptors from
Speaker 1: the Chris Pratt films, and Donald Trump is the opts
Speaker 1: from Jurassic Park, the first one like these Motherfucker's and
Speaker 1: then later movies like Coordinating. They're like more evolved, they're
Speaker 1: still dangerous. But I think it again to center this
Speaker 1: COVID thing around it is like doesn't immediately put people's
Speaker 1: alarm bells up from these other perspectives, obviously to most
Speaker 1: people who are like, this is fucking dangerous too, and
Speaker 1: panel a fucking grand jury to like be like, we
Speaker 1: got to look into undermining everyone's belief in any kind
Speaker 1: of institution or like a specialty like science. That's fucking very,
Speaker 1: very dangerous. But yeah, kind of, especially when Elon is
Speaker 1: tweeting out prosecute Fauci. Yeah, it gets it. It really
Speaker 1: does make it so that it really does make it
Speaker 1: so you're criminalizing truth. M yeah, or yeah, the very least,
Speaker 1: at the very least, you create a hostility towards people
Speaker 1: that would deign to speak truth to power and then
Speaker 1: begin to you know, erode the like people's confidence in
Speaker 1: speaking out and things like that. I mean that's sort
Speaker 1: of part and parcel of what that strategy is, because
Speaker 1: every time Republicans are like, listen to this straight up lie,
Speaker 1: there's always actress be like that's fucking nonsense, And then
Speaker 1: they're like, you're fucking woke, Get the funk out of here.
Speaker 1: You fucking at a file, And it's like, what the
Speaker 1: fuck I forgot? I forgot where I read this recently,
Speaker 1: But they were talking about the news and and and
Speaker 1: what happens with like misinformation in a weird way. But
Speaker 1: they were saying like, like, let's say, let's take something
Speaker 1: we know to be true, like climate change, right, Like
Speaker 1: climate change is real, we know that, And what ends
Speaker 1: up happening is, in an effort to be fair and balanced,
Speaker 1: you'll have a talk show and you'll have one scientist
Speaker 1: who's a climate change scientists, and you'll have one scientist
Speaker 1: who's the climate change denier, and you'll have them each
Speaker 1: and you'll give them equal time because you want to
Speaker 1: be fair and balanced. But there, but what I was
Speaker 1: reading was like, but in reality, the way to be
Speaker 1: equal would be to have scientists that are like for
Speaker 1: climate change and to scientists who are not, and you
Speaker 1: give them percentage of the time versus two percent of
Speaker 1: the time. That's actually fair and balance. But when we
Speaker 1: see this over and over again of like one on
Speaker 1: one side and one on the other, we believe it's
Speaker 1: a thing when in reality it's like nine point five
Speaker 1: to one five exactly. And yeah, and too many I think,
Speaker 1: especially news outlets or or like pundits, get completely freaked
Speaker 1: out when like conservats like you're not fucking giving fair
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, it's like, well, this guy just said
Speaker 1: where wolves were fucking real? So what the fun you
Speaker 1: want me to do with that? That's not true? Like
Speaker 1: we have to fucking like, I'm sorry, but you're a
Speaker 1: child if you believe that, And that's not on me
Speaker 1: to fucking hold your hand because you can't deal with that.
Speaker 1: That's fucking bullshit. Now go over there and figure your
Speaker 1: ship out. But it does. That's what he's frustrating when
Speaker 1: you when people do seed time, especially like in all
Speaker 1: every argument that we're every sort of debate of the
Speaker 1: time that's happening right now, it's like like that's why
Speaker 1: that New York pitch bought Twitter account is so money,
Speaker 1: because it's always sort of framing this thing of like,
Speaker 1: you know, we wanted to learn about global warming, so
Speaker 1: we talked to three Elon Musk fan boys to see
Speaker 1: what their thoughts were on the Green New Deal. It's like, sure, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously I don't think he said where wolves were real.
Speaker 1: I think he said were wolves were stronger than vampires,
Speaker 1: and that's debatable. Yeah he's talking about that. I mean
Speaker 1: I've seen Underworld, Jacob, so like, yeah, I'm feeling I'm
Speaker 1: feeling that what about it Underworld? Who who's more lit?
Speaker 1: The likings? You watch all the Underworld films? Hell, yeah
Speaker 1: you did? I mean I gotta go with dract. I
Speaker 1: mean I gotta go with vampires because kateeck and Sale,
Speaker 1: she makes it through all the movies. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Oh yeah, the likings, they're the likings
Speaker 1: are the world. They're like being like, get the funk
Speaker 1: up out of here, this is our ship. I guess
Speaker 1: I don't know whatever I mean. For me, I'm to
Speaker 1: be honest, I kind of vampires more. M Yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: rather be a vampire, although I would for the hairline
Speaker 1: be a werewolf preach. Just like about two years, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: it's a full moon, and then I just fucking my my,
Speaker 1: fucking all the spot just turns into full head of hair.
Speaker 1: I think. I think being aware wolf is only fun
Speaker 1: if you're the alpha wolf. If you're not, you're just
Speaker 1: the follower your whole life mhm see. And then I
Speaker 1: would blow up the whole paradigm and be like, yo,
Speaker 1: that's a fucking fake concept anyway, the outfa you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Miss me with that, and you're a
Speaker 1: woke wolf I think I'm pitching Woke Wolf to ABC
Speaker 1: Family ABC signature next week. Oh they probably would, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. You know. You see how like so much
Speaker 1: of the programming we're seeing is starting to tighten up
Speaker 1: and become more conservative, and like, oh, of course move
Speaker 1: away from that. You know, we're about to see some
Speaker 1: weird ship with the word woke in it coming soon.
Speaker 1: Can't wait, can't wait, y'all, and then we'll have to
Speaker 1: take a big old dump on that. But to kind
Speaker 1: of go along with this sort of idea of like election,
Speaker 1: you know, the Democrats are trying to figure out, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously who they're going up against. Is Trump gonna survive?
Speaker 1: And he challenges to his running and in the primary
Speaker 1: is it gonna be The santists to him as a
Speaker 1: fucking nick flinte who who the funk knows? But there's
Speaker 1: just another chaos factor preparing to enter the fray, and
Speaker 1: it's this bipartisan group called No Labels. They've raised about
Speaker 1: seventy million dollars. They're like, and they're doing this whole
Speaker 1: thing of like they want to put a Democrat and
Speaker 1: a Republican on the same ticket to offer Americans a
Speaker 1: chance to quote make history and oh god, she already exists.
Speaker 1: Her name's Tulsea gab If. No, it's it's gonna be
Speaker 1: like those Liz Cheney fan type people. They're like, she
Speaker 1: was on the January six panel, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But then also it's like, have you seen her policies.
Speaker 1: She's basically Trump. She's just the only thing she just
Speaker 1: had a disagreement on was stealing the election. She's not
Speaker 1: a pro choice, she's anti choice. She's a broken clock.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's a very very like a lot
Speaker 1: of there's like a centrist Democrat group that's like, this
Speaker 1: isn't great for the Democratic Party if they're trying to
Speaker 1: really amount to serious effort to win back the like
Speaker 1: keep the White House. I think in reality, this is like,
Speaker 1: at bestie, completely misguided effort by a bunch of political
Speaker 1: operatives that are raising money and trying to feel powerful
Speaker 1: and say blah blah blah. And at worse, it's like
Speaker 1: a stealth from the right to split anti Trump votes.
Speaker 1: Because if you consider this, if neither candidate gets to
Speaker 1: two seventy electoral votes, then the House of Representatives will
Speaker 1: vote on who the president is, and we know the
Speaker 1: Republicans will be controlling the House when the election comes,
Speaker 1: but it is important to point out that third party
Speaker 1: candidates pull a lot better than they actually perform, like
Speaker 1: like and don't get electoral votes. So if anything, you
Speaker 1: get something like the nat Or effect where you split
Speaker 1: the vote and then you lose Florida and like like
Speaker 1: what happened with Gore. So this would be a very
Speaker 1: efficient way to win a presidential election without getting any
Speaker 1: sort of like true majority of the votes, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I just went to the uh,
Speaker 1: the no Labels website, and after you find like you know,
Speaker 1: after you pass the ten streetwear brands called no Labels,
Speaker 1: I clicked meet the team white white, white, white, white,
Speaker 1: white White. It happens for a long time, and then
Speaker 1: there is a there is a black dude. But it's
Speaker 1: funny because he's the first one without a professional photograph
Speaker 1: and I feel like he was sort of like like
Speaker 1: he was there and they were like, hey, can we
Speaker 1: take a picture real quick? We gotta take a picture
Speaker 1: real quick. Wow, this ship looks like a bunch of
Speaker 1: people that would call the cops on you for like
Speaker 1: listening to music too loud. Yeah, as we scroll down,
Speaker 1: they've hited them pretty well. As we scroll down, there's
Speaker 1: a few people of color down there. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean again, this isn't very like this. A lot of
Speaker 1: these people their seasoned, like they've worked on political campaigns.
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of people in the political world
Speaker 1: are like, these aren't a bunch of clowns that are
Speaker 1: like helping out on the Joe Lieberman, you know, the
Speaker 1: last Democrat to flip to Indie flip from Democratic Party
Speaker 1: is one of the people to be the chairs of
Speaker 1: this group. So it's not like they're like. These people
Speaker 1: are versed in running political campaigns, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people have been like asking them, like, yo, are you
Speaker 1: are you aware of the threat disposes like that you
Speaker 1: would actually this would more than anything helped Donald Trump
Speaker 1: or the Republicans. And many have said like, look, if
Speaker 1: it gets too if it's getting weird and we realize
Speaker 1: like there's like people are fine with the direction things
Speaker 1: are going and they don't need this other option, then
Speaker 1: we will completely pull out. But we're afraid that we
Speaker 1: don't want to get too far down the line. While
Speaker 1: like while holding like staying on the sidelines and realizing
Speaker 1: we needed to lay the groundwork to effectively mount a
Speaker 1: campaign going into November, so they're being very coy about it.
Speaker 1: Article from last week and article from last week in
Speaker 1: Political says uh fourteen former employees of No Labels reveals
Speaker 1: a cutthroat culture where staffords are routinely fired, pushed out,
Speaker 1: have little trust and management, and believe that the workplace
Speaker 1: environment is very difficult for minority and female colleagues. Hey,
Speaker 1: well it's a unity ticket basically. That's why again it's
Speaker 1: hard to take these people seriously because at best you're like, man,
Speaker 1: they're this is this just just feels cynical. As I
Speaker 1: also have like a slightly different perspective on campaign fundraising
Speaker 1: these days, just because you know, you see so much
Speaker 1: money going to different parts of politics and it's just like,
Speaker 1: really not do anything. I think a prime example of
Speaker 1: that is Rick Caruso in the mayoral race spending a
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars of his own money to lose to
Speaker 1: Karen Bass, which is like, I know, it's you know,
Speaker 1: probably different territories, slightly different situations, but that's a hundred
Speaker 1: million dollars that you've you spent right there for a
Speaker 1: political campaign. And just seeing they've raised seventy million. It's like, okay,
Speaker 1: so you raised thirty million less for a for a
Speaker 1: nationwide campaign versus just the city of Los Angeles. And
Speaker 1: I know, you know, it's different spending money and blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. But still it's like, I don't know, these
Speaker 1: amounts of money don't impress me anymore. It's like it
Speaker 1: just doesn't mean as much, doesn't don't impress me much.
Speaker 1: I get it, I think. I mean that's why they're
Speaker 1: you know, like other count other countries, just the government
Speaker 1: will some countries will give you a budget to a
Speaker 1: campaign with and they'll be like, that's in all y'all
Speaker 1: get the same, check your figure, your ship out, or
Speaker 1: there's a cap on what can be spent or you
Speaker 1: can't do. I was gonna say, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: it's a salary cap. That's what every sports league does, well,
Speaker 1: not every, but with the good ones do. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: I was in I was in Berlin with my family
Speaker 1: a few years ago, and all of the political campaign
Speaker 1: posters are the same. You have exactly like one kind
Speaker 1: of poster you can use to make your political statement
Speaker 1: and show a picture and that's all you get and like,
Speaker 1: you know, the walls are littered with a bunch of
Speaker 1: these pay or not litterally, but like they have all
Speaker 1: the pictures posted and it's just one candidate, one line,
Speaker 1: and it's the exact same thing all across the board.
Speaker 1: Like those just be like that one wall in town
Speaker 1: where the political ads are exactly. I really like this, Miles.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that about like some countries doing the
Speaker 1: salary cap on the thing I or like the sort
Speaker 1: of like cap on what the budget cap on what
Speaker 1: you can do for the campaign. And you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if people know this, but in the NBA,
Speaker 1: any team that goes over the cap over the luxury,
Speaker 1: the money that they go over is dollar for dollar
Speaker 1: given to the teams that are under the cap. So
Speaker 1: if they if they did that, if they did that
Speaker 1: in politics, it's like every dollar you spend over this bonus,
Speaker 1: you gotta pay your opponent base. What it sounds like
Speaker 1: what you're trying to describe is some kind of equitable situation. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe we could start a unity party, Uh, unite the haters,
Speaker 1: but yeah, look out for them because they look like
Speaker 1: they're up to no good. But again, like even at
Speaker 1: the end of the day. I'm not like, you gotta
Speaker 1: protect Joe Byron, because that's not really where I'm coming from.
Speaker 1: But it's interesting to see like the machinations of like
Speaker 1: or just strategicies begin to emerge on what people are
Speaker 1: looking at, how people looking at and what can happen there.
Speaker 1: But ship maybe you know who knows, Maybe it's Liz
Speaker 1: Cheney and Kirsten Cinema on the ticket or something weird
Speaker 1: like that. Okay, yeah, now you've got my attention unity. Okay, actually,
Speaker 1: never mind that guy. Um let's Oh, actually I wanted
Speaker 1: to talk really quickly. Just something I've noticed. I keep
Speaker 1: saying this thing called ballers versus haters, which is this mentality. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I mentioned this last week that there's like there
Speaker 1: seems to be this line people cross as they experience
Speaker 1: more success or attain more wealth, Like at a certain point,
Speaker 1: they're no longer capable of hearing any kind of like
Speaker 1: criticism or observations about their behavior because they're constant praise
Speaker 1: from followers or like sycophants in their inner circle just
Speaker 1: like reinforce their egos to the point that they just
Speaker 1: feel that they have become like infallible um and unassailable.
Speaker 1: And we saw this like one of the prime examples,
Speaker 1: which was with Chappelle and Elon at that stand up
Speaker 1: show in San Francisco, like like when a booze came out,
Speaker 1: they didn't know how to process that. Chappelle just went to, oh,
Speaker 1: it's because they're broke. He said that people booing are
Speaker 1: in the cheap seats and I was like huh, So
Speaker 1: he decided like he wanted. He said, basically, I don't
Speaker 1: give a funk about the people that paid that are
Speaker 1: literally giving me money to see me. I'll insult them.
Speaker 1: I'll side with Elon, And that's what it is. And
Speaker 1: due to like I think the ment that the logic
Speaker 1: is and due to their broke gassenus, they are haters.
Speaker 1: That's why you don't need to worry about what they say.
Speaker 1: It's not coming from a real place. Another example this
Speaker 1: popped up recently, like on Instagram. I saw like this
Speaker 1: viral article about a fashion influencer in Australia, like was
Speaker 1: that a Berbery event, and decided to go off on
Speaker 1: her like the bartender because the dude only filled her
Speaker 1: champagne flute halfway. And it was like people don't want
Speaker 1: to Like people don't care. This is like so discussed,
Speaker 1: like what a failure dot dot dot. People in the
Speaker 1: comments are like what fucking planet are you on, like
Speaker 1: like read the fucking room. That's that's actually a tragedy
Speaker 1: in your life. And then this person doubled down with
Speaker 1: this statement that like further underline that her worldview is
Speaker 1: like I am successful, I deserve full Champagne's and I
Speaker 1: don't give a fuck if I have lost all perspective
Speaker 1: on what hardship is. Because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to a luxury event and I don't
Speaker 1: have a luxury experience, something is wrong there. And I'm
Speaker 1: like it was just this weird like justification of it,
Speaker 1: and I just feel like it's this is starting to
Speaker 1: like really kind of take hold in this way where
Speaker 1: the like the reflex of of hearing criticisms about your
Speaker 1: own behavior is just to go to be like this
Speaker 1: is woke bs, rather than getting gaining some kind of
Speaker 1: perspective like in what is happening, because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, like complain all you want about your situation,
Speaker 1: but you also need to understand that the world is
Speaker 1: not a monolith. Where every person is living as comfortably
Speaker 1: as you are. So at a certain point, the wealthy
Speaker 1: and influenia like lose total site of the existence of
Speaker 1: people that are not doing as well as they are.
Speaker 1: So when these people voice their displeasure over inequality or
Speaker 1: these the specific manifestation in a post or video or whatever,
Speaker 1: it's just it's just like dismiss that. It's nonsense. They're haters,
Speaker 1: We're fine doing this. It just I just it's like
Speaker 1: it's the same thing with like Ellen after being like
Speaker 1: the woke mind virus must be destroyed, and it's really
Speaker 1: just people being like, uh, this seems actually like in
Speaker 1: poor taste because of like rampant inequality and how much
Speaker 1: people are suffering right now in the world. Anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there just doesn't seem to be a middle ground where
Speaker 1: people can like talk about things in a manner that
Speaker 1: is a little bit of this or a little bit
Speaker 1: of that, like you can you know, and this isn't
Speaker 1: a way to defend champagne flute person no, no, No.
Speaker 1: Complaining about certain things all of a sudden makes you like,
Speaker 1: you know, a one percenter, or or pointing out a
Speaker 1: flaw in something or pointing out a mistake in someone's
Speaker 1: or whatever makes you a hater, And it's just like
Speaker 1: I don't know that. It just discourse seems to be
Speaker 1: completely destroyed on the Internet. It's just not even worth
Speaker 1: it's not even worth participating. It's yeah, there's just this
Speaker 1: like thing this out. It's it's the same thing like
Speaker 1: when people were talking like the Twitter files and they
Speaker 1: want like Ben Shapiro's time was like then the Twitter
Speaker 1: took this like do good in the world, like ethos,
Speaker 1: what the fund is wrong with that? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And like to try and like label that
Speaker 1: is like and you know what that means? What exactly
Speaker 1: help fucking people make ship hel shitty for other people?
Speaker 1: What the fuck? What do you mean? It's just like
Speaker 1: it's just turning into like another thought killing cliche. I
Speaker 1: feel like that is like kind of rendering people's ability
Speaker 1: to like, you know, reckon with like shit like this effectively.
Speaker 1: It's also then like what you then what are you
Speaker 1: doing if that's an issue to you? What are you doing?
Speaker 1: Is your job to make things worse in general? Is
Speaker 1: that the idea? I don't know if that's what you
Speaker 1: take issue, If that's what you take it to you
Speaker 1: with people things do good in the world. Funk that okay, okay, right, Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's because it's empathy, right, empathy. You can't
Speaker 1: there's no way you can like be like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: down with this oppressive bullshit if your levels of empathy expand,
Speaker 1: because the more you have the capacity to sort of
Speaker 1: like understand someone's situation, the more you will see how
Speaker 1: like caustic and repulsive like the treatment of certain people are.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where it's like they can't get
Speaker 1: that going too far, Like if there's too much empathy,
Speaker 1: then it's really difficult to like other people in ways
Speaker 1: that you know, I think people who are like fearmongering
Speaker 1: or hate mongering or are used to doing I'm interested
Speaker 1: in the psychology of this. UH. As an actor, we
Speaker 1: often talk about like we have to justify the choices
Speaker 1: that the characters make, and as an actor playing it,
Speaker 1: even if you disagree with the choice, like if you're
Speaker 1: playing a bad guy, you might disagree with the choice
Speaker 1: of charactery, but you have to justify why they're doing it.
Speaker 1: And I think sometimes what have is with politics and stuff,
Speaker 1: we'll say that, well, the cruelty is the point well,
Speaker 1: they're trying to be cruel. But the a good actor
Speaker 1: would say, well, what are they really trying to do?
Speaker 1: They think that I'm trying to be cool because I'm
Speaker 1: pro choice, so they think I'm trying to be cruel.
Speaker 1: They think that my my pro choice opinion is cruel,
Speaker 1: or that the fact that I support same sex marriage
Speaker 1: they see that as cruel, that it's mean that I'm
Speaker 1: doing that because I'm taking something away from their hetero marriage.
Speaker 1: And so then when we see it that way, I
Speaker 1: try really really hard. Sometimes I'm like, Okay, what is
Speaker 1: their point with building a wall? Like I see that
Speaker 1: as cruel and dumb, but but what is there point?
Speaker 1: And I I failed to come up with one. I
Speaker 1: failed to come up with one sometimes because it doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense because it's not logical. It's not rational to
Speaker 1: hate people. Yeah, you know what I mean. That's the
Speaker 1: whole thing. It confuses you because you're like you, you
Speaker 1: you have enough perspective to be like, I don't see
Speaker 1: people who are lacking as a threat. I'm like, you understand,
Speaker 1: like you understand the motivations of someone trying to migrate
Speaker 1: here because you're like, the situation is so terrible that
Speaker 1: this truly because of the nature of like our you know,
Speaker 1: geopolitical system, that all the resources are on this side
Speaker 1: of the planet and you're just trying to get a
Speaker 1: piece of that, whereas other people are like, it's a
Speaker 1: zero sum game. These people are invading and are going
Speaker 1: to take things from me, and I think for them,
Speaker 1: it's like I hate them because they're trying to take
Speaker 1: things from me. Yeah, and then I like read the
Speaker 1: things where I'm like of criminal activity coming in over
Speaker 1: the border, comes in on an airplane with a person
Speaker 1: who has a visa, And then I'm like and then
Speaker 1: I'm like, I read, uh, actually seen I've seen footage
Speaker 1: of like ventilated tunnels that the cartel has under from
Speaker 1: you know, under the they can get in. So this
Speaker 1: wall is like not only is it mean, it's dumb, yeah,
Speaker 1: but again so is racism. Right, it's dumb, biggest racist symbol.
Speaker 1: You don't win. You're not gonna win being racist. Sure,
Speaker 1: you may like you've may like fast your way to
Speaker 1: the top or whatever, but it's not going to be
Speaker 1: because you win over hearts and minds. And if you
Speaker 1: say fash as a verb, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh I
Speaker 1: like that yeah, you know, heard's what I do, baby,
Speaker 1: You know, I like to make up new ways to
Speaker 1: describe creeping fashions. You can fast your way to the top. Oh,
Speaker 1: you want to fast your way into the party? Okay,
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're getting a little fashy right now,
Speaker 1: and then that word will lose total meaning, be like,
Speaker 1: what's that mean again? When you're mean? But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think it's just we're just in this really interesting place
Speaker 1: to where we're disconnected. We're unable to like connect to
Speaker 1: our humanity in ways and like access our empathy, and
Speaker 1: there's a lot of confusion that it bounds because of it.
Speaker 1: And I think we'll talk about that a little bit
Speaker 1: more when we talk about the new Avatar film, which
Speaker 1: we will do right after the break and we're back.
Speaker 1: The new Avatar movie is out. I haven't seen it yet.
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm saying, say, how waved are you gonna get?
Speaker 1: Before you go extreme? Gonna get waved? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come in on a fucking tsunami, bro, I'm
Speaker 1: about too. It's about to be the day after tomorrow
Speaker 1: in that theater when up there completely God eyes invisible
Speaker 1: through the redness, I can't even I don't even know
Speaker 1: what I'm I'm excited to see it. Everything I see, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't care about the reviews. I'm like, I just
Speaker 1: need to be like WHOA, Like that's all. That's all.
Speaker 1: It's a fucking blockbuster. I you know this is you
Speaker 1: can't tell you something. I had a big sea change
Speaker 1: in my own life about the movie Ambulance. You guys
Speaker 1: know that movie Ambulance. Oh yeah, is Michael Bay. I
Speaker 1: think it's a Michael Bay movie with Jake Jillen Hall
Speaker 1: was in it. Yeah, Jake Jillen Hall and um uh
Speaker 1: yeah right yes. And at first I was like I
Speaker 1: was watching the trailer, I'm like, this movie is stupid.
Speaker 1: I know what's going to happen. It's a movie. It's
Speaker 1: a completely ridiculous plot. This is so dumb. Why am
Speaker 1: I watching this? And then I watched it on a plane,
Speaker 1: which is not the place to watch it. But when
Speaker 1: I tell you, I had my face like two inches
Speaker 1: from the screen. It's like, oh my god, we're people like,
Speaker 1: weren't people crying in that movie? Issues? I don't know,
Speaker 1: probably remember reading people like Twitter jokes being like man
Speaker 1: crying to me an ambulance. It's just it's a fucking
Speaker 1: action flick and it rules. It rips. You're not there
Speaker 1: for the Yeah, you're not there for the Robert McKee
Speaker 1: perfect scripted. It doesn't need to. It doesn't need to rips.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what I mean. That's how I'm
Speaker 1: going into Avatar. I think that's how some people are
Speaker 1: going into Avatar, Others with a bit of a heavier
Speaker 1: emotional burden, you know, like a lot of people are
Speaker 1: like the new Avatar is coming out, are we gonna
Speaker 1: see their like resurgence of post Avatar depression syndrome, Because
Speaker 1: I don't know if you remember when it came out
Speaker 1: in that was like a huge or like it was
Speaker 1: more of a joke. I remember being like what I'm like,
Speaker 1: people fucking like are so fucked up that panic Ora
Speaker 1: doesn't exist that they just keep going to like the
Speaker 1: movie theater over and over. Um. The headlines are like
Speaker 1: audiences experience Avatar blues, or other ones are saying, like
Speaker 1: Avatar fans, people want to do self harm because Planet
Speaker 1: Pandora is not real. The Avatar effect movie goers feel
Speaker 1: depressed and even suicidal and not being able to visit
Speaker 1: utopian alien planet. I think that you know, we're looking
Speaker 1: at it, that it's not just about that this thing
Speaker 1: doesn't exist. In our writer Jam McNabb was like sort
Speaker 1: of just being like, you know what, it can't It's
Speaker 1: not just as simple as this thing doesn't exist, and
Speaker 1: like when you track it. It started with a message
Speaker 1: board post in two thousand nine. The guy said he
Speaker 1: was just depressed after watching Avatar, but not just because
Speaker 1: Pandora is like so dope, but because it illustrates the
Speaker 1: current like ecological state of the Earth and made him
Speaker 1: feel that quote humanity is going south. And a lot
Speaker 1: of people talked about that in this like message this
Speaker 1: web board web board web board post, and the thread
Speaker 1: had a ton of the like fans being like this, yes,
Speaker 1: all of this, which got the media's attention, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't just like happening in the immediate aftermath of the
Speaker 1: release in two thousand The trend is even continued when
Speaker 1: people like like who have just watched the movie for
Speaker 1: the first time, like on video, and a lot of
Speaker 1: people like it's not a like obviously quote medically recognized condition,
Speaker 1: but they say it is an observable phenomenon and it
Speaker 1: seems like as people like sort of like reckon with this.
Speaker 1: A lot of the commentary seems to be that it's
Speaker 1: like sort of filtering these like really valuable or really
Speaker 1: valid relatable feelings that exists like outside of the film itself,
Speaker 1: like you feel quote disconnected from nature, like you're worried
Speaker 1: about the future of your own planet, and you're feeling
Speaker 1: dissatisfied with modern life, and these anxieties are just being
Speaker 1: brought to the forefront by this film, like on a
Speaker 1: massive level, which makes sense because the film isn't just
Speaker 1: like this massive film it was like a globe looks
Speaker 1: like one of the most widely filmed scene like widely
Speaker 1: seen films of all time. So I think it's just
Speaker 1: a very interest saying take on that, because in my
Speaker 1: perspective about like how disconnect I mean, I'm I was,
Speaker 1: what twenty six or something, barely figuring my ship out,
Speaker 1: like being angry as fun that I was like living
Speaker 1: at home like trying to be like, well, what's happened
Speaker 1: in this economy that yeah, for me, I didn't have.
Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, I don't know, are they
Speaker 1: really that upset? Whatever? But the more you kind of
Speaker 1: as life progresses and I've gained gained more perspective. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's something really interesting about that. Because did you see
Speaker 1: the how To with John Wilson episode where he met
Speaker 1: up with like other people in this like sort of
Speaker 1: Avatar support group. No, yeah, it's a second season. I meant, yeah,
Speaker 1: like he he finds like like, that's when it got
Speaker 1: more attention. That's when I began seeing it very differently
Speaker 1: because he went to this group. They're all talking about
Speaker 1: their feelings of depression and how disconnected they felt, and
Speaker 1: they just but one person said, quote, for me, the
Speaker 1: post Avatar depression hit hard because I have this serial
Speaker 1: track could have trying to escape my reality. Oh and
Speaker 1: it's in that in that it was such a really
Speaker 1: like very sincere portrayal of all these people who are
Speaker 1: like learning that v and all these other things. And
Speaker 1: it created like a community like with people who are
Speaker 1: really having like a like really struggling but they can't.
Speaker 1: They found this like common ground through this, And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, like yeah, it it's for
Speaker 1: some for I mean, I understand the reasons, but some
Speaker 1: people it just resonates with like on a level that
Speaker 1: like you know, it's it's different than most people. And
Speaker 1: I just think that's a really, our guess, underrated dimension
Speaker 1: of like what the Avatar film is. And I don't
Speaker 1: know how serious it will be in this era or
Speaker 1: what kind of commentary we're gonna get out of like
Speaker 1: this feeling but or this film, but it is something
Speaker 1: that I just feel like I'm I understand a little
Speaker 1: bit better than I did, Like what twelve years Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was thinking about twelve years ago when I would
Speaker 1: watch a movie like this, you know, not just the Avatar,
Speaker 1: but anything where you know other worlds are involved or
Speaker 1: something like you naturally think, well, what would happen if
Speaker 1: Aliens landed tomorrow? Or what would happen if we invented
Speaker 1: a ship that we could fly to Saturn tomorrow? And
Speaker 1: I used to believe that, like, oh, it would be
Speaker 1: something great for humanity. As I've gotten a little older
Speaker 1: and maybe more cynical now I believe like if Aliens
Speaker 1: landed tomorrow, half of us would be screaming at him
Speaker 1: to kill them. The other half would be accept them.
Speaker 1: We would be it would become a political thing within
Speaker 1: five minutes, you know, Um, if we suddenly found that
Speaker 1: there was a way for us to take a ship
Speaker 1: and land on Mars. Half of us would be saying
Speaker 1: we should not be colonized as on another planet. The
Speaker 1: other half would be saying, this is a new dimension
Speaker 1: for humanity. It's like, we're so we would poison it.
Speaker 1: We would poison it so quickly. And when you watch Avatar,
Speaker 1: you see investment into science, You see scientists being believed,
Speaker 1: you see you see like future technologies being embraced and
Speaker 1: used for good and bad. But also, like you see,
Speaker 1: i'd it's it feels like a utopia that just doesn't
Speaker 1: or can't exist, Yeah, but utopia that still has a
Speaker 1: very strong neo colonial themes, very very fern gully, very
Speaker 1: fern gully. I was actually gonna echo something very similar
Speaker 1: that you said, Basod, was that, like, you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like Avatar is certainly unique in this and I
Speaker 1: think it's honestly a testament to how well James Cameron
Speaker 1: was able to create this world of Pandora. And also
Speaker 1: literally like how it looks like the just the the
Speaker 1: the graphical caliber of this has got to be contributing
Speaker 1: to it, because this is far from the first movie
Speaker 1: to purport purport a utopian society or just like a
Speaker 1: future world that's really cool. It's like there there there
Speaker 1: are lots of even like you know, there's cartoons. There's
Speaker 1: like remember Titan a E which was all about like
Speaker 1: you know, there was a terraforming that whole planet and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and and even like Star Wars and
Speaker 1: and and and and Star Trek, which is all about
Speaker 1: a utopian kind of society where we are post post
Speaker 1: economy and post hunger and all this. We're posting not starvation,
Speaker 1: but we're posting need basically. And it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it is curious to me that Avatar is the
Speaker 1: one to do it, where as there's been so many
Speaker 1: of these stories about the future that are like this
Speaker 1: is what society could be, and yet Avatar is the
Speaker 1: one that's creating the centrome. It's just like it's very
Speaker 1: part of it is very interesting. I think part of
Speaker 1: it has it must be to do with the three D.
Speaker 1: You know. It's like like you're to your point. There
Speaker 1: are many other films that create these fantasy worlds that
Speaker 1: people have escaped in and like we've seen many fandoms
Speaker 1: like constantly like escaping to the realities of these films,
Speaker 1: But I think that I don't know the three D
Speaker 1: nature of it. All I think was definitely like shocked
Speaker 1: my media brain because I wasn't three D ship I
Speaker 1: was seeing was like having the blue and red lenses
Speaker 1: on looking at a comic book and ship, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It wasn't like move my head around
Speaker 1: and look around and be like, yo, I might be
Speaker 1: in um fucking place. I don't know. It might have
Speaker 1: something to do with it. But all that to say
Speaker 1: is like I think it really kind of speaks to
Speaker 1: just a general malaise people do feel of like are
Speaker 1: increasingly like sort of isolated world. All let's say, hey,
Speaker 1: get out there, get a sense of community. And yeah,
Speaker 1: Like it's funny that people who have who self suffered
Speaker 1: from this, like you know, post Avatar depression thing in
Speaker 1: like ten years ago, like are just a little are
Speaker 1: joking about it now. They're like yeah, like who have
Speaker 1: like sort of moved on and they moved past that.
Speaker 1: They said, yeah, I can think what this one said.
Speaker 1: This is a movie about blue space cats. So and
Speaker 1: like at the end of the days, like there's a
Speaker 1: good portion of people that are like Avatar too, Did
Speaker 1: we really need this movie. Yes, yes, we did so.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, isn't it enough to like are they doing
Speaker 1: five five on the books? Yeah? Stoked stoked ready, were
Speaker 1: ready we ready? But yeah, I think it's it's it's
Speaker 1: an interesting commentary, like and I'm curious to see what
Speaker 1: this film brings out, if it is the same thing
Speaker 1: or if people just have these like weird conflicting like
Speaker 1: ways they've taken the film. And but it'll be hard
Speaker 1: for me to take anything in because I'll be waved, okay,
Speaker 1: way waved bais odd Man, Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: stopping by the Daily Zat guys. Always love having you. Man.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you, support you, check
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Speaker 1: me on all over the internet, clean Clean. Is there
Speaker 1: a tweet or some kind of social media media media
Speaker 1: posts that you that you want to call out? You know?
Speaker 1: I don't know if this counts. Is if YouTube counts
Speaker 1: of social media doesn't? Why not? Whatever? You but I
Speaker 1: I've been in a rabbit hole of watching just random clips,
Speaker 1: not full episodes, but just random clips on YouTube from
Speaker 1: the show Naked and Afraid. Oh hell, I'll ever seen
Speaker 1: that show? Hell yeah yeah. The reason why I'm watching
Speaker 1: it right now is because it is so the opposite
Speaker 1: of anything I would ever do. I wouldn't survive five
Speaker 1: minutes in these places. I need a Hilton every night.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't survive five places five minutes. But these people
Speaker 1: are like, you know, hunting animals with feathers and sleeping
Speaker 1: outside and the bugs and the rain and the Oh
Speaker 1: my god. I watched like five six minute clips on
Speaker 1: YouTube and I've gotten to the point though, where I've
Speaker 1: watched them all. I think I've watched all the ones
Speaker 1: available on YouTube. Uh what about you? Daniel? Thank you,
Speaker 1: bro for pulling up my pleasure happy to be? How
Speaker 1: do they find you? With some social media similar to
Speaker 1: biz odd, I have unified the brand and DJ underscore
Speaker 1: Daniel d A n l on all the things. You
Speaker 1: find me on Twitch on Wednesday and Sundays and on Twitter, Instagram,
Speaker 1: all that ship anyway. My my one piece of social
Speaker 1: media is from Grace g Freud at Grace g Freud
Speaker 1: went to see Avatar too with my nave friend and
Speaker 1: he kept being like, no, it's not like that. Shut
Speaker 1: the funk up, man, that's really good. If I could, UM,
Speaker 1: if I could plug something real quick. Yeah, there's this
Speaker 1: amazing Pulitzer Prise winning play called Disgrace that I worked
Speaker 1: on a while back ago, and it uh it won
Speaker 1: the Pulitzer Prise in two thousand and thirteen, I believe, UM.
Speaker 1: But recently Los Angeles Theater Works did a recording of
Speaker 1: it UM and it's a really good recording because unlike,
Speaker 1: it's not just our voices, they hired a professional Foley
Speaker 1: artist to sort of create the environment on the recording. UM.
Speaker 1: And it's really well done. And you could buy it
Speaker 1: for five bucks on the Los Angeles Theater website. UM,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Theater Works website, and you can buy it
Speaker 1: for five bucks. And it's it's pretty damn cool. It's
Speaker 1: an it's ninety minutes and you get a full story,
Speaker 1: and it's a it's it's really great, features a lot
Speaker 1: of amazing actors and and cool social issues. So I
Speaker 1: want to plug that. And also I'm the direct are
Speaker 1: of the acting track for Lena Waite's Him and Grad
Speaker 1: Mentorship Lab and the application is out now for season
Speaker 1: three of that, which is a free eight month program
Speaker 1: for actors, writers and producers, completely free and applications are
Speaker 1: out and do in mid January. So those are the
Speaker 1: two things I wanted to Where do they find if
Speaker 1: they want to apply? For those that are listening, where
Speaker 1: can where can they apply? They can play on the
Speaker 1: Hillman Grad websites and him and Grad instagram has information
Speaker 1: and all that things. So Him and Grad is Lena
Speaker 1: Weight's production company. And uh, yeah, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: really great program. Okay, okay. Some tweets that I like,
Speaker 1: Gammy Lofty at Jamie Loft is help tweeted if nothing else.
Speaker 1: Two is the year I sent a nude from the
Speaker 1: bathroom of a hot dog restaurant. Uh, And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the most on brand tweet go for for
Speaker 1: our queen Jamie Lofty. Another one is from Rosie Card
Speaker 1: at Rosemary Card tweeted men every list says you want beard, oil, up,
Speaker 1: pocket knife or something leather? What do you actually want? Man?
Speaker 1: I don't want none of that? Ship? Yo? What the funk?
Speaker 1: What not? Miss me? No? I don't need a knife,
Speaker 1: I don't need beer. I I ain't got no beard
Speaker 1: to necessitate fucking oil or something. Leather. If you want
Speaker 1: to buy something, look, I love music. This is the
Speaker 1: easiest thing. We just had a Christmas party for the
Speaker 1: office and we were playing a white Elephant party. I
Speaker 1: saw there was a vinyl record. I've snatched that at
Speaker 1: the White Oat. You can tell is a vinyl record.
Speaker 1: I opened it up. It was Mariah Carey Special Edition
Speaker 1: Christmas Album Vinyl. I said, let's fucking go. Shout out
Speaker 1: Anna for giving me that gift, that she brought that
Speaker 1: to the party. But I think something. Just get the
Speaker 1: real note thought gift. Take an album somebody loves, get
Speaker 1: it to him on vinyl. Truly great answer. Or when
Speaker 1: we get a man if you want to get a
Speaker 1: man a gift, Welcome to the Manisphere. Go to Brookstone
Speaker 1: and get go to Brookstone and literally get anything, just
Speaker 1: like randomly fucking any Mini Mighty mo a box or
Speaker 1: Sharper Image, same same thing, same ship. Because I walk
Speaker 1: into a Brookstone and I'm like, oh, that's cool. Oh
Speaker 1: that's cool. Oh that's cool. Outdoor speakers, Oh, outdoor speakers,
Speaker 1: very good with that. I'll tell you something I will
Speaker 1: funk with, uh, like a cooler bag I can take
Speaker 1: out in the summer that you could just dump a
Speaker 1: bunch of ice in, put your beverages in, whatever that
Speaker 1: may be, so you can just carry around the bag.
Speaker 1: Whether you have to bring a hard cooler, I like
Speaker 1: something like that. I'll take a picnic blanket. That's I
Speaker 1: just be going. It was like, it's like if it's
Speaker 1: in a little pocket like this, you can throw that
Speaker 1: ship out and it's easy. It's easy. Anyway, what's Beka Sin?
Speaker 1: In the chat, she said, I'm on the Philson website?
Speaker 1: What's the Philson website? What's what's Philson? I don't even
Speaker 1: know what? Okay, maybe it's just my partner's obsession, tison
Speaker 1: funere cowboy gear. This is like some out door my
Speaker 1: man's be on Pilson's website. Yeah, how many chainsaws your
Speaker 1: man got? You know? Actually I think yes to Okay,
Speaker 1: that makes this because this website, one of the first
Speaker 1: images you see is like this dude getting down with
Speaker 1: the fucking chainsaw. He's the kind of guy who wears
Speaker 1: car hard and means it. You know what I mean
Speaker 1: by streetwear? He's like, I work in this okay, also
Speaker 1: for streetwear. So you know, I've never I've never heard
Speaker 1: of Philson. Yeah, damn dag. Maybe he's just hey, look,
Speaker 1: if you're all looking for a gift, they got, motherfucker.
Speaker 1: I think got a five dollar fucking flannel. Jick. Honestly,
Speaker 1: it's really nice. Every time I go in there, I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 1: these are some woodsie men that are really kind to me. Um, hello,
Speaker 1: look out of place as fuck, but their stuff seems
Speaker 1: really hardy. This ship looks like also to like for
Speaker 1: a like a hundred and fifty dollar flannel, You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I bet you can fucking run through a fire in
Speaker 1: that ship. I mean, you better be able to run
Speaker 1: through a fire. And I've playing a hundred fitch bucks
Speaker 1: for a flannel. I could find this a TJ Max
Speaker 1: for eight dollars. Yeah, that's great, that's true. I'm just
Speaker 1: men who are very kind. Sounds like the libertarian tagline.
Speaker 1: I mean they think wishes they were that time. Do
Speaker 1: you do you own a gun? But think gay people
Speaker 1: should be able to get married? This website for you?
Speaker 1: Shout out bill, shout out. All right, let's see what
Speaker 1: else did I like? I don't know, there's some the
Speaker 1: other there's some random TikTok. Oh my god, I gotta
Speaker 1: start reposting these tiktoks that I like. Stupid man really
Speaker 1: funny stuff. Anyway, Uh, find me at Miles of Gray
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Speaker 1: as a song we rid eyed out on What's good song?
Speaker 1: I want to do a little French rap, you know great?
Speaker 1: This one is from this artist named Jean Ja g
Speaker 1: j e A n j A S S. And this
Speaker 1: track I gotta I gotta make sure I got my
Speaker 1: fucking French pronunciation on is on conveignance okay, and yeah
Speaker 1: that should this ship go. This is a dope track
Speaker 1: mostly because I don't understand the words, but you know,
Speaker 1: I like I like the lyrical stylens in this MC.
Speaker 1: So check this track out to start your week and
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