Speaker 1: Welcome, welcome one and all, kiss the season. As we're
Speaker 1: about a third of the way through this NBA season
Speaker 1: and checking in on all of our preseason predictions because
Speaker 1: we were so accurate, it's kind of freaky, you guys,
Speaker 1: I would start, I mean, this is not betting advice,
Speaker 1: but maybe take our word as a gospel. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: might want to listen to us. Gay is gonna put
Speaker 1: that out there. You're you're about to hear some evidence exactly.
Speaker 1: It turns out I got bulls eyes. But we are
Speaker 1: here to talk about those preseason predictions with our super
Speaker 1: producer Jabari on today's episode. I'm Miles Gray and I'm
Speaker 1: Jack o'criyan and this is Miles. Okay, okay, we did
Speaker 1: it there. It is third of the way through. Man,
Speaker 1: time to look back, Jabari, how are you feeling about
Speaker 1: this season the third of the way. Feeling good about
Speaker 1: the season in general, not necessarily about our Lakers would
Speaker 1: have them. Oh nothing, don't worry. Santa's got a nice
Speaker 1: gift for us because we've all been good. That's what
Speaker 1: I believe. Yeah, Um, we got some NBA games happening
Speaker 1: on this Christmas. That was That was one of my
Speaker 1: predictions at the beginning of the season that was yes, yes,
Speaker 1: early on, we should say shout out to that very
Speaker 1: early prediction. You nailed that one. Yeah, I should say
Speaker 1: all my predictions were kind of in that vein of
Speaker 1: just like, man, I bet, I bet the NBA even
Speaker 1: has some games on Christmas, and then you're like, what
Speaker 1: if they did an All Star game? What if? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you know how they've done city jerseys. They even
Speaker 1: did them like last season. I think they're going to
Speaker 1: do them again this season, even though they just did
Speaker 1: them last season. Guys, sure enough, call me an absolute
Speaker 1: looney tune, but I think Stephen Curry, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: shooting okay this next season, maybe a little bit better.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. Well, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm not going out on any limbs like that, but yeah, anyway,
Speaker 1: but shall we look back on some of our guests
Speaker 1: predictions and and and see where the wisdom producer went
Speaker 1: back checked us and uh was actually is now in awe,
Speaker 1: he said, his words, not mine, in awe of our
Speaker 1: ability to see into the future. Yeah, bar I read
Speaker 1: that script that we gave you earlier, right now, Okay,
Speaker 1: So Miles and Jack got it all right in the
Speaker 1: good night Okay, we're good, all right, right, yeah, great,
Speaker 1: nailed it, Thank you. I just bulls eye sound effects
Speaker 1: I think we had here in the description is a
Speaker 1: bull's eye sound a boying because you're you're thinking of
Speaker 1: an air here in an arrow hit a bull's eye,
Speaker 1: But it could also be the yea for no reason,
Speaker 1: just because that's a fun sound effect. Theater of the
Speaker 1: mind for the listener. Yeah, no, but jokes aside. When
Speaker 1: I was going through this, I was I was actually impressed. Specifically,
Speaker 1: you guys got a lot you guys got a lot
Speaker 1: of these, right, Okay, thank you for okay, much better
Speaker 1: read stupid. Yeah, there was some surprise because keep in mind, remember,
Speaker 1: you know, for anybody that is, you know, listening, you
Speaker 1: know you can go back if you'd like to go
Speaker 1: back to the Bold Predictions episode. They're supposed to be bold,
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be crazy, They're supposed to be wild
Speaker 1: somehow somehow, you know, as I went down the list,
Speaker 1: there's really only one or two that and we'll get
Speaker 1: to those for sure that you know, we're questionable. Aside
Speaker 1: from that, we were right about everything. We also had
Speaker 1: some really really accurate ones that kind of freaked us out. Um,
Speaker 1: we'll get you later on the episode. Which are the
Speaker 1: ones are saying like, yeah called me now, okay because
Speaker 1: we were missing Cleo in it. Um, So should we
Speaker 1: start off with one of our first guests who gave
Speaker 1: us some predictions, Mr Dragonfly Jones, Yeah, Dragonfly of the
Speaker 1: Jenkins and Joe's podcast here on the network or the
Speaker 1: Volume network as well. Obviously, you know he wears it
Speaker 1: on his shoulder or on his or I guess on
Speaker 1: his chest. Either way, he's a Bronze fan. He was
Speaker 1: rooting for the Lakers, but he was hesitant, which is
Speaker 1: probably pretty smart. He wasn't really sure about rust coming
Speaker 1: off the bench and or whether he believed it would
Speaker 1: be the case. But he was right on that the
Speaker 1: Lakers are currently thirteen and seventeen. You know one game
Speaker 1: in the lost column outside of the Plane, Where were
Speaker 1: you guys on that? I didn't weigh in on that,
Speaker 1: but I did listen back and I did say that
Speaker 1: in our episode halfway through the season, you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to make up your mind as to whether he
Speaker 1: wears it on his shoulder or his chest or sleeve. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did say that. I just wanted to put that
Speaker 1: out there. Ah Um, yeah, I was. I'm still hot
Speaker 1: on the Lakers, as in disappointed. Oh no, like if
Speaker 1: I pulled my collar out, steam shoots out because I
Speaker 1: got the stress sweats. Not right, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I have to be I want to be a little optimistic.
Speaker 1: I want to feel like this is the most radical
Speaker 1: turnaround we've ever seen. But maybe not. But I want
Speaker 1: to feel optimistic. But I think I think at that time,
Speaker 1: I felt I was a little bit more with my
Speaker 1: chest out a Laker fan from the outer limits of
Speaker 1: our atmosphere. I think about it this way. Okay, what
Speaker 1: did the Lakers start? And then they moved Russ to
Speaker 1: six man position where we said from the start in
Speaker 1: our Predictions episode, this man should be sixth man of
Speaker 1: the year this year. He should be on the bench
Speaker 1: coming in giving him a change of pace, change of speed, pitch.
Speaker 1: And since then they've been I'm not gonna say dominant,
Speaker 1: they've been thirteen and twelve. Uh so pretty good? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like that. I mean, when you say it
Speaker 1: like that, come on, you have to read the stats
Speaker 1: like that, just be like, just go more in the
Speaker 1: vibes direction. The vibes. Yeah, they've been better, so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they should be listening to Miles and Jacob at Boostie.
Speaker 1: They already do what's up, Genie? What's up? Rob? Hey?
Speaker 1: Kurt Hey, Kurt Ramby and unfortunately did use an eye
Speaker 1: word and they only put trophies in the place of eyes.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, that's right, right, I shout out to
Speaker 1: the Rambi Kurt and Linda or the ram By C.
Speaker 1: I don't know. How did you get your holiday card
Speaker 1: from the Rambi? I did? I did? Did they sign
Speaker 1: it the Rambi? Oh yeah, they got to they got
Speaker 1: Are they double eyeing that? Or like how are they
Speaker 1: doing it? Yeah? Oh yeah, I mean if you had one,
Speaker 1: you know. But that's okay. We've seen, we've heard, we know.
Speaker 1: I'm always left out. This is how this goes. What
Speaker 1: about his Do you have a prediction about the plane
Speaker 1: Turkey sandwich? Yeah, he love the plane Turkey sandwich. I
Speaker 1: think he appropriately described Malcolm Brogden as a Plaine Turkey sandwich,
Speaker 1: but not in an inappropriate way like he wasn't like
Speaker 1: it's solid. Yeah, look he's given him, you know, just
Speaker 1: about fourteen points, four rebounds almost four as this off
Speaker 1: the bench. The Celtics have the second best record in
Speaker 1: the league, and he's been exactly what they needed. Man,
Speaker 1: if only I hadn't, you know, outed them preseason, But Jack,
Speaker 1: you didn't. Oh that's right, thank you, Jabari, you went
Speaker 1: back and listened. Yes, yes, the first thing I said
Speaker 1: in my predictions, telling Jabar, what did I say? I
Speaker 1: think you said. It's something along the lines of I
Speaker 1: think people are underrating how good the Celtics will be.
Speaker 1: That was a week attempted your voice. But yes, no,
Speaker 1: that was perfectly to the degree that I hated it.
Speaker 1: You know how you hate your own voice. I hated
Speaker 1: Jared Press and that's accurate. Yeah, I think I said
Speaker 1: something like twenty two and nine around the time that
Speaker 1: we record this. I also predicted that Joe Mazilla was
Speaker 1: going to do a just a better than expected job,
Speaker 1: and would also confuse people with a joke about how
Speaker 1: the only real royal family he's aware of is Jesus,
Speaker 1: Mary and Joseph, even though that's not a thing people
Speaker 1: call that family. And I think that happened. I feel
Speaker 1: like I willed it into existence. What else? Dragonfled Jones
Speaker 1: keeping it going, and he had a bunch you know
Speaker 1: that he was kind enough to join us for the episode. Uh,
Speaker 1: he thought the Warriors were making back to Confidence finals.
Speaker 1: He thought the Pills would be a top four, top
Speaker 1: four seat out west. Now, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 1: He you know, he was probably right. All of you
Speaker 1: guys were right about the Pills. You know, they do
Speaker 1: look as though they're going to be there. But the
Speaker 1: Doubs are currently fifteen at sixteen, they're tied for tents.
Speaker 1: You know, Steph is expected to be out until somewhere
Speaker 1: around late January, potentially early February. And I'm really not
Speaker 1: sure if, if, if I believe in them this year.
Speaker 1: But are you where are you guys on the Dobs?
Speaker 1: So I did know that stuff was going to be
Speaker 1: injured part way through the seasons, he did say, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did say that. So my prediction takes that into account.
Speaker 1: And I still think they're going to finish strong. And
Speaker 1: this is no. I I think you're right. I think
Speaker 1: I think we were way off on that one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody was Nobody saw them having this much of trouble. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And the only thing I knew was that by of December,
Speaker 1: Steph Curry will have had a hundred thirty one three
Speaker 1: pointers made. That was just something when I was just like,
Speaker 1: let me just post them out there. But like, how
Speaker 1: close were you on that one? How many does metal have? Um?
Speaker 1: So at four we have Malik Beasley with one ten
Speaker 1: but healed one thirteen, Anthony Simons won sixteen, one thirt
Speaker 1: one And what did you say? Okay, that's pretty good?
Speaker 1: Oh m god, what is going on here? Okay, let's
Speaker 1: move on. This is too freaky. All right, So this
Speaker 1: is where he got. He went all he went all
Speaker 1: in on it. He was big with Milwaukee. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: He's got y honest winning the m v P. If
Speaker 1: pressed into a second choice, he said, Luca, we'll get
Speaker 1: to him later. He's got Defensive Player of the Year
Speaker 1: once again at your Honest and finals MVP. With the Honest,
Speaker 1: they got the best record, best record in the league.
Speaker 1: Janice has been an absolute force and they've done a
Speaker 1: lot of that damage without Middleton, at least for a
Speaker 1: good portion of the you know, the first episode, he
Speaker 1: that prediction could absolutely come true. Okay, okay, yeah, all right.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were onto the Jannice
Speaker 1: being good at basketball thing. Yeah, this Gianni's guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you mean the guy that had a fifty
Speaker 1: point double double in the finals to close it out.
Speaker 1: Pretty good, I guess if you need them. God, you
Speaker 1: had a fifty point double double. That's wild. I think
Speaker 1: that was only like two seasons ago. He's still pretty good.
Speaker 1: I think, all right, should we take a break and
Speaker 1: then come back? Yeah, let's do it. Do you think
Speaker 1: we should both take a break and come back? Um?
Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I'm with it, all right. I just
Speaker 1: I like to get a consensus. We'll do it now. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: let's do it now. We'll be right back and we're back,
Speaker 1: you know, just going through all the ways that we
Speaker 1: predicted the future and Rookie of the Year. So we're
Speaker 1: we're still with Dragonfly Jones who basically predicted Brookie of
Speaker 1: the Year with Paula. I mean, we don't we don't
Speaker 1: know for sure. It's definitely having one of the most
Speaker 1: impressive rookie rookie seasons we've seen in a while. Mm
Speaker 1: hmmmm yeah. I mean, I mean, let me just look
Speaker 1: in the crystal ball. What were we saying about Paolo?
Speaker 1: Can you run that tape back? Actually from right before
Speaker 1: Paolo played his first game, And I think what we
Speaker 1: said was going to happen by December of this year.
Speaker 1: So I believe Paolo will probably know he will lead
Speaker 1: all rookies in scoring and assists. Jack, I'm gonna come in,
Speaker 1: you know, it seemed like you were ramping up to
Speaker 1: say he'd also lead them in rebounding. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: ahead and say in reboundings. Take hot take, So, Miles
Speaker 1: and Jack today in October, this is what you're predicting. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: in October leading scoring, an assists, fourth and rebounding. I
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a swell player. As we
Speaker 1: say back here in the past, we love yep, love
Speaker 1: Polo and Chero and I So wow, first of all,
Speaker 1: is that what's that accurate? How close were we let
Speaker 1: me see? H he's currently leading all rookies and scoring
Speaker 1: and assists and Jack? Wow? You you you run away
Speaker 1: with this one fourth and rebounding. Yeah, that's what I figured. Man.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Man, you just kind of see the matrix.
Speaker 1: After a while, you get tired of it. You play
Speaker 1: it enough, who you know, so you can kind of
Speaker 1: see it from both sides, both sides like Chanel, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know you get playing too. You know that humility there, Jack,
Speaker 1: I've got something for you. He was huge on Maxie.
Speaker 1: In fact, he was kind of a hit of the curve,
Speaker 1: saying he was going to be the best player in
Speaker 1: that back court. Now he's missed half the games. You
Speaker 1: know he'd been you know, your your boy? Did he
Speaker 1: say that even though I told him that MAXI was
Speaker 1: gonna miss half the games? Did he still stick with
Speaker 1: he was gonna be the best player in the back court,
Speaker 1: best player in the back court. Right and right now,
Speaker 1: even though he's missed half the games, he's putting up
Speaker 1: career numbers and points, re bounds and assists. He definitely
Speaker 1: seems like he got a little bit better this season,
Speaker 1: and he was already He's been improving at a rapid rate,
Speaker 1: but probably missed too many games for my tastes, which
Speaker 1: is probably you know, I don't think I came right
Speaker 1: out and said it, but I was like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: that's a that's an interest. I would love to see
Speaker 1: him play better. I think on a per game basis,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be much better. He will miss half his
Speaker 1: games through the first twenty nine games, say, uh, so
Speaker 1: just keep that in mind, and he said, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? How would you know that? Um? And
Speaker 1: then I said some stuff about the matrix and seeing
Speaker 1: both sides, like channel that opp in the DeLorean and bounce. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. So his final prediction, once again, he's heavy
Speaker 1: on Bucks. He's got Bucks versus Warriors, and he says
Speaker 1: Bucks in six. Now, obviously we don't know that result yet,
Speaker 1: but like I said, yeah, well this is mid season.
Speaker 1: We're just checking in earth third of the way. So
Speaker 1: this is an opportunity for us to revisit this question
Speaker 1: because this is one of the things that's been most
Speaker 1: exciting about this season for me is how wide open
Speaker 1: the West is because the Bucks makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: Bucks are have the best record in the NBA right now.
Speaker 1: Bucks Celtics seem like they're probably going to be in
Speaker 1: the finals. That would be my guests. They seem like
Speaker 1: they're kind of head and shoulders above everybody else. The
Speaker 1: fact that Cleveland and Brooklyn are up there, and in
Speaker 1: that conversation, I don't think a lot of people saw
Speaker 1: it coming, uh sixers. I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: they were like a cool pick in the lead up
Speaker 1: to the season, So, I mean, but the Calves and
Speaker 1: the Nets being right back there is exciting. But out
Speaker 1: in the West, I think like the the safe pick
Speaker 1: would be the grizz Like that. That feels like the
Speaker 1: safe pick to me right now, and that's so exciting
Speaker 1: like that, you know, Jah in the in the finals
Speaker 1: would be so dope. The Pelicans are in the top four,
Speaker 1: like as as we predicted did. But wait a second, Um,
Speaker 1: when you're saying safe pick, you mean outside of the Lakers, right, yeah, yeah, Okay, God,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to clarify and you're gonna take your
Speaker 1: entire reputation on that, right Jack, What that the the
Speaker 1: Lakers are the safe pick? M Yeah, totally just because
Speaker 1: what yeah, just because I just want to get this
Speaker 1: over with. Sure, let's go with the Lakers the safe pick.
Speaker 1: Oh good, you heard it here. Yeah, they're looking great,
Speaker 1: They're looking good, and I'm happy for you, guys, happy
Speaker 1: for you. But but well, so, if you were making
Speaker 1: a finals pick right now, Jabari, who is the serious
Speaker 1: basketball mind and does not have access to time travel
Speaker 1: away Miles and I do, who would you put in
Speaker 1: the finals at this point? Grizzlies books like I would
Speaker 1: love to say the Celtics. No, I wouldn't, but you
Speaker 1: would be told. I honestly, I think you're right. The
Speaker 1: Grizzlies are probably the safe pick. Obviously you lack and
Speaker 1: change and healthy and availability, you will make a difference.
Speaker 1: But in a jammed West, I still look at them
Speaker 1: as being the deepest. So if you if you're telling
Speaker 1: me that job is going to be there in the postseason,
Speaker 1: Bane's gonna be you know, fully available in the postseason,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get this type of play from you know, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, from Triple J. I would say that that's
Speaker 1: going to be one of the toughest ELTs this offseason.
Speaker 1: That's exciting. That makes me very happy. You know what
Speaker 1: makes me happy? Jack. The thing that I was most
Speaker 1: excited about when I was going back through this footage.
Speaker 1: You absolutely nailed it when you when you discussed the
Speaker 1: most improved player, because you specifically said, and like quote,
Speaker 1: the most improved player. It tends to be players that
Speaker 1: go from good to all star caliber. And you mentioned
Speaker 1: guys like yo A d or Zion you could be
Speaker 1: interesting in those conversations. But there was another guy, guy
Speaker 1: from Canada, Shay Gildris Alexander, and I'll be honest, I
Speaker 1: didn't anticipate this because I thought that he would eventually
Speaker 1: be moved. But he's been playing lights out. If I'm
Speaker 1: not mistaken. He's one of like three players that like
Speaker 1: already at this stage and you know in the season,
Speaker 1: you know, to have like three or more game winning
Speaker 1: or time or at least tying buckets. He's been playing
Speaker 1: lights out. Okay, see, is actually still right there in
Speaker 1: the mix. And you know a lot of us would
Speaker 1: have anticipated them being in the Windy uh you know,
Speaker 1: sweepstakes once Chet went down, But they're right there and
Speaker 1: being competitive, and I would have to be fair to me,
Speaker 1: I would have mentioned Shaye gil just Alexander, but I
Speaker 1: had never heard of him at the time that we
Speaker 1: recorded the Predictions episode. So yeah, but I I am
Speaker 1: pretty impressed with the first thing I said, Celtics going
Speaker 1: to be the best team in the East, and I
Speaker 1: still think they might be, even though the Bucks have
Speaker 1: better record than them. Now. The last thing I said,
Speaker 1: I got the narrative right on on the most improved player.
Speaker 1: Um so you know, all joking aside, I am pretty
Speaker 1: much psychic. Yeah, I would say, yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: would have Grizzly. I think that I think the Celtics
Speaker 1: actually couldn't make it to the finals. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think they can. I just feel like, would that
Speaker 1: with that number six on their chest. I'm a fan
Speaker 1: of like playing out of your body as a tribute
Speaker 1: to something bigger than yourself, and I think that may
Speaker 1: help couple to the fact that they're doing well right now,
Speaker 1: although you know, some people are freaking out a little
Speaker 1: bit after hiccups here or there. But yeah, and I
Speaker 1: would love I would love, love love to see Spider
Speaker 1: Man in the finals and that would bring a The
Speaker 1: one thing that I can see getting in the Celtics
Speaker 1: way is that Spider Man and Bain Too, Comic Book,
Speaker 1: DC and Marvel teaming up. The only thing I can
Speaker 1: see getting in the Celtics way is just you know,
Speaker 1: Joe Mazilla cracking them up too much to your next Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a team that could potentially get in their way,
Speaker 1: and it's someone that Miles in particular mentioned that he
Speaker 1: was very high on the Cleveland Cavaliers. Watch out for him.
Speaker 1: Third seed in the East twenty one and eleven. Currently,
Speaker 1: they did a lot of that damage without you know,
Speaker 1: you know, Darius Garland for I think a good stretch
Speaker 1: of games, you know, right around ten games. You know,
Speaker 1: there are three games off the best record. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: wish I could say I thought they were going to
Speaker 1: go super far, but I was just hot on him,
Speaker 1: so more of a more of a game prediction as
Speaker 1: opposed to a sixteen game prediction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: just when I was adjusting your collar and steam shooting out.
Speaker 1: They have the best point differential in the league right now.
Speaker 1: You know, I remember when that used to count for
Speaker 1: something around here, when you would score more than the
Speaker 1: other Fellers would. Yeah, but I mean Boston was running
Speaker 1: away with point differential for a while and uh Cleveland
Speaker 1: Cabs now six and a half point differential. Alright. One
Speaker 1: of our favorite guests, c J. Toldano, had some pretty
Speaker 1: good things to say. He started us on the Russ
Speaker 1: six Man of the Year Revenge Tour season third star.
Speaker 1: They need could be what's happening inside Russ's head, like
Speaker 1: when you're when you're watching out there. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's the objective way that I would describe
Speaker 1: what's happening in this season, but there are moments like yeah,
Speaker 1: Russ Russ Russ Us at the very least, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: and you know it's kind of cliche, but it's really
Speaker 1: nice to see him smiling on the court again. It's
Speaker 1: really nice to see him just simply enjoying basketball because
Speaker 1: and I can admit this as a Lakers fan, we
Speaker 1: were very very hard on him, uh you know, and
Speaker 1: then we drifted into absolute worrying fear, like like possibly
Speaker 1: do it again. Yeah, I wasn't certain hitting into this year.
Speaker 1: So you know, c J definitely nailed that. It was
Speaker 1: on Bucks winning the title as well, and a very
Speaker 1: Laker centric even though you know he's a baby bull
Speaker 1: now he had winning Defensive Player of the Year. I
Speaker 1: don't know that that one will will quite come true,
Speaker 1: but I like where his head is. Yeah, the revenge Tour,
Speaker 1: I think, like to Jack's point, like it is in
Speaker 1: his head because at times like when he rocks that
Speaker 1: baby out of nowhere, you know, he's like ha ha,
Speaker 1: and then I think he's oh and seven with rocking
Speaker 1: the baby or something like that as the record. So
Speaker 1: but I like the energy. I'll lie I like where
Speaker 1: your heads at. Rus, you know, like I said to
Speaker 1: I think you have you still could be six Man
Speaker 1: of the Year. All right, should we take a quick break,
Speaker 1: We'll come back. Yeah, we'll come back. Right, we're still playing,
Speaker 1: we can Yeah, yeah, we should come back. There there
Speaker 1: are some predictions that weren't quite as dead on as
Speaker 1: the ones we've covered so far, and we'll talk about
Speaker 1: those in a little bit. And we're back. Um, hi, guys,
Speaker 1: hey from the first two parts of this episode. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, so you know there's some God's immortals,
Speaker 1: I think is what we have to call this segment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we've already talked about some god level predictions, me
Speaker 1: basically predicting s g A even though I didn't know
Speaker 1: that he was a person before this season. Uh, and
Speaker 1: you know some other stuff. There's some people who didn't
Speaker 1: quite nail it. Josh Eberley from Spotify Live came through
Speaker 1: and this this prediction stuck in my head because I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I am not hearing that anywhere right now.
Speaker 1: You are not hearing this man's name for m v P.
Speaker 1: You're not hearing this team as someone who's gonna make
Speaker 1: noise this year. And then they had a couple of
Speaker 1: good games where I was like, man, we were the
Speaker 1: only place I heard this prediction that is the Trey
Speaker 1: Young is going to have his first m v P
Speaker 1: season and leads to dialogue about him being better than
Speaker 1: Luca and also said that Atlanta was going to make
Speaker 1: a ton of noise this year. So I don't know, Jabar,
Speaker 1: I actually don't pay much attention to the league, But
Speaker 1: can you where where is Atlanta at? How's Trey doing
Speaker 1: so far this season? We'll shout out to my former
Speaker 1: co host on hot takes and shot fakes. That was
Speaker 1: a shot fake right there, because it has not come
Speaker 1: to fruition yet. Oh do you think he was doing
Speaker 1: that on purpose to make us out of our shoes?
Speaker 1: I think he was. He gave us that good upfake
Speaker 1: in the post and flying all over the place. I
Speaker 1: the ram you hit, you know, somewhere in between, I'm
Speaker 1: guessing exactly the Rafters. But yet, no, you know, they're
Speaker 1: just sixteen and fifteen. They're currently into playing, you know
Speaker 1: type situation. The reason why that prediction was was was
Speaker 1: difficult to me was because and I understood, you know,
Speaker 1: he was excited about the Murray, you know, coming over
Speaker 1: and you know, remedying some of what they needed out
Speaker 1: of their back court. But the reason why that was
Speaker 1: a difficult prediction for me is because it was either
Speaker 1: for that to come true, either Trade is going to
Speaker 1: have to just be astronomically better from a number of
Speaker 1: production standpoint or as well as an efficiency efficiency standpoint,
Speaker 1: which he's already you know, putting up, you know, he
Speaker 1: had already put up you know, crazy numbers, or Atlanta
Speaker 1: would have to just you know blow everyone away. And
Speaker 1: obviously that hasn't taken place. Now, we watched the Celtics
Speaker 1: last year, you know, do a complete turnaround in the
Speaker 1: second half. Not that I'm predicting that for Atlanta, but
Speaker 1: that's about the only way that that prediction is gonna
Speaker 1: come true for Joe. So sorry, Josh, you are so
Speaker 1: far the weakest link when it comes to wow, the
Speaker 1: weakest link reference. And we don't even own that, I
Speaker 1: p nah, but we basically might as well. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: see what else we got, Ben Oliver from the Washington Post.
Speaker 1: So this is where we came with the point. And
Speaker 1: and this is not in the category of bad predictions.
Speaker 1: We only had really like one that jumped out to
Speaker 1: us as like, you know, kind of off base. Ben
Speaker 1: was like, hey, you know, there hasn't been a repeat
Speaker 1: conference final team for the past was the three years
Speaker 1: four years, I think four years, And it turned out
Speaker 1: that wasn't true. He was just making that up, but
Speaker 1: it was not, so that turned out to be true.
Speaker 1: But that was very valuable to hear. As you're like
Speaker 1: trying to make predictions about the season, everybody is predicting like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be kind of more of the same,
Speaker 1: Like the Warriors have like this young core that's like
Speaker 1: coming up behind Steph and Clay and everything's just gonna
Speaker 1: be the same. And that has been the deposit of
Speaker 1: like what we've seen this season. So Warriors, MAVs, Celtic Heat.
Speaker 1: I feel like the Celtics have been the one team
Speaker 1: that that has really like held up their end of
Speaker 1: the bargain of coming back. But just generally there's a
Speaker 1: lot of volatility out there. Yeah, it's yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: The Warriors, the MAVs have been underwhelming, the Heat also
Speaker 1: not not really doing it to them this year. I
Speaker 1: think without a move made by either of the other
Speaker 1: three teams, I guess the Warriors have the best chance
Speaker 1: to offset that. But I could absolutely see all three
Speaker 1: of those teams either failing to make the postseason or
Speaker 1: you know, going out very early without any actual shakeups.
Speaker 1: Thousand Golden State are in the tenth and eleventh position
Speaker 1: in the West, and that's not where you want to be,
Speaker 1: is what I'm told. Again, I don't pay much. I
Speaker 1: think you want to be above that dotted line. Yeah, yeah, typically,
Speaker 1: I think as hat that's what my grandmother always told me.
Speaker 1: Uh what about Dan pha Valley from Bleacher Report? And
Speaker 1: I know he also I think he was also had
Speaker 1: some love for the Pelicans too, right. It's kind of
Speaker 1: wild that I think he might have been the one
Speaker 1: who put it as Pelicans top four team in the
Speaker 1: Western Conference and they are at number four. H So
Speaker 1: we kind of jumped on on the back of his
Speaker 1: and then we asked Brian to edit out him saying
Speaker 1: it so that we were saying first. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think he was right. And I think we also predicted
Speaker 1: that Dan pha Valley would take things we say on
Speaker 1: this show and passed them off as his home takes too.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, and he actually mentioned your guy Miles.
Speaker 1: He specifically mentioned, you know, Trey Murphy's emergence being a
Speaker 1: big part of it, you know, obviously with everybody. If
Speaker 1: as long as everybody, I'll stayed healthy. The Herb Jones
Speaker 1: has been out of the lineup, but Trey Murphy has
Speaker 1: been absolutely incredible in you know, in replace that was
Speaker 1: quite he that was like he called that one. That
Speaker 1: was Actually that's got level. That's the best prediction I
Speaker 1: think we've covered so far other than mine about Joe
Speaker 1: Mozilla agreed? Agreed, Dan, you get the lightning bolt. What
Speaker 1: about Raj Chapolo another another Laker, Like I just want
Speaker 1: to say I did. I did disagree with him. I
Speaker 1: thought he was mispronouncing Troy Murphy's name, and I was like, man,
Speaker 1: that guy hasn't been in the league for over a decade.
Speaker 1: Golden State Troy Murphy, or like late late career Lakers
Speaker 1: Troy Murphy, or what about Pacers Troy Murphy paths with
Speaker 1: my dad and very nice guy, but um, I did
Speaker 1: not see him making a significant impact for the Pelicans
Speaker 1: this season. And uh, hey, you know what we were
Speaker 1: both at forty two years of age. Yeah, right on
Speaker 1: that one got any counting swish from deep downtown Miles.
Speaker 1: I got you. Roscapolo, you'll shout out the Himbows be
Speaker 1: Nation he was high on Luca. A matter of fact,
Speaker 1: he said, Luca for m v P. And I'll be
Speaker 1: honest with you, man, like I recognize that the individual
Speaker 1: numbers they're they're just astronomical these days. And you know,
Speaker 1: you could you could even call him a bit inflated,
Speaker 1: But thirty two point five, eight point six and eight
Speaker 1: point political is still ridiculous. It's still ridiculous. It's unfortunate
Speaker 1: that his team, you know, hasn't met him. They one
Speaker 1: could say that they missed Jalen Brunson a bit. One
Speaker 1: could say that they probably should have, you know, match
Speaker 1: that match that deal, or given offered him a deal
Speaker 1: prior to him a hidden free agency. But either way,
Speaker 1: they're fifteen and sixteen. I don't think Luca ends up
Speaker 1: winning the a VP um, you know, without a significant
Speaker 1: second half you know, you know, second half increase, you know,
Speaker 1: in the standings. But I will say, he's playing m
Speaker 1: VP basketball. So you were partially right, part right. But
Speaker 1: he kind of did also have a good prediction too
Speaker 1: with the Nuggets. He said they were gonna be the
Speaker 1: top seed. I mean they're in second, so buying Yokich,
Speaker 1: looking for Ricky. I remember looking at that m v
Speaker 1: P Ladder. I'm like, wow, look at those guys up there. Um,
Speaker 1: but now, I don't think one of those guys have
Speaker 1: been there anyware anyway, shout out a d what's the
Speaker 1: m v P Ladder? Just like the heat score? Oh
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I can be found on NBA. Sorry to
Speaker 1: go grape stomping lady on him. I just didn't know
Speaker 1: what you were talking about. Oh, I mean a letter.
Speaker 1: So we're down to our last one. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Mark Schinler w n B, a lead writer most of
Speaker 1: They've Got Now podcast. He was also highing the Pelicans,
Speaker 1: and he had both the Pelicans and Calves being top
Speaker 1: four in their respective conferences and winning fifty plus games.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna nail that. I think both of
Speaker 1: them will. We did ask for a wild prediction. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess those were wild. They're they're both right there. Um,
Speaker 1: he got specific with it. So you know, if he
Speaker 1: had said they will both be fourth exactly in their division,
Speaker 1: then maybe I'd give him a little bit more credit.
Speaker 1: But um, but you had Calves a third. Yeah? Sorry keVs.
Speaker 1: Third Pelicans fourth? Pretty good? Uh, but be more specific, Mark, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: get your stuff get it right or pay the price?
Speaker 1: Does anybody know what that's from? Yep, so that your
Speaker 1: short's camp on the one. Every time I hear someone
Speaker 1: say get it right, that goes off in my mind
Speaker 1: like a nostalgia bomb. There it is, and I hear
Speaker 1: get it right, get it tight. But that's different, different
Speaker 1: mood altogether. I exactly I found you miss new Gluteus Maximus.
Speaker 1: All right, well, those are some fantastic predictions, I must say. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean it is a little weird to look back
Speaker 1: and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa? Am I part of
Speaker 1: the Stranger Things or something? Why am I freaking out
Speaker 1: like with all this mind power part of the Stranger thing? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like that. I don't think that thought hasn't crossed
Speaker 1: my mind. Am I part of the Stranger Things or something?
Speaker 1: What's going on here? I mean? But we might be,
Speaker 1: we might be. But yeah, I mean a good look back.
Speaker 1: I mean we're third third of the way through the season.
Speaker 1: We'll have to check back in to see where we
Speaker 1: end up, especially as we get into the postseason. But
Speaker 1: God's Monsters, mortals, we all come together on this show,
Speaker 1: mad boostiees anything else? No, I think just a happy
Speaker 1: holidays and happy New Year. I guess is there another
Speaker 1: episode coming out before the New Year? Best of Yeah, best, yes,
Speaker 1: so check that out. But this will be the last
Speaker 1: time you hear from us in this calendar year, and
Speaker 1: you know, thanks for sticking with us, and listen to
Speaker 1: the show and we'll be back in the new year
Speaker 1: with even more and can't wait to be even right
Speaker 1: about everything. Thanks for sticking with us when nobody else would,
Speaker 1: when they all said everything they say is wrong. Yeah,
Speaker 1: their predictions are bad. The Celtics might not even feel
Speaker 1: a team this year, let alone be good. You know
Speaker 1: a lot of people said we couldn't do it, and
Speaker 1: look at us now, a lot of things and we
Speaker 1: need to We're sticking with us, all right, y'all. We'll
Speaker 1: see you soon. Bye. Oh Jabari Miles are Jack? Oh
Speaker 1: yeah Jack, Yeah, Merry Christmas to me.