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Speaker 1: Good morning, Jane? What's so sorry? What up? Says? How you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing good? Listen to y'all and justice. It is
Speaker 1: finally being brought to the light that happened to me, y'all,
Speaker 1: what happened? What happened? So remember I told y'all a
Speaker 1: couple of years back about the retro laps, about what
Speaker 1: never mind, what happened? That Roland Ray has scammed me
Speaker 1: out of eighty five dollars, and y'all the same room
Speaker 1: finally brought it to the light that he was scammed
Speaker 1: and then he had hit scammer people. You don't know
Speaker 1: how you still all get him getting scam Now? How
Speaker 1: did he scam? How you scare me? Why would you
Speaker 1: send him eighty five dollars? Because I paid him eighty
Speaker 1: five dollars. I told all this. I paid him man
Speaker 1: eighty five dollars to post me for this thing that
Speaker 1: has gone like on the LGBT community. He had like
Speaker 1: a bunch of like gay and like you know LGDD followers,
Speaker 1: and he took my money. It just disappaid her. And
Speaker 1: they did an investigation on him yesterday and lock him
Speaker 1: up and bring me to testify because I'm smistering. I'm
Speaker 1: telling on him. Yeah, we're gonna report that story next year.
Speaker 1: It says Rolling Ray aka the most famous boy in
Speaker 1: the wheelchair, has been accused by several social media users
Speaker 1: of being a scammer here a scammera and I'm I'm
Speaker 1: smistering on him. Please block them up. Allegedly. Allegedly, they
Speaker 1: claimed that uh people pay him for shoutouts seventy six
Speaker 1: dollars to one hundred dollars for shoutouts, but after sending
Speaker 1: them the money, they said he took their cash and
Speaker 1: rolled out. Salute the Rolling Ray Man, Salute the Rolling
Speaker 1: Ray rolling Ray out head hustling man dropping the clues
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Speaker 1: head hustling man. You know what I'm saying, y'all bothering
Speaker 1: that man for shoutouts? You know what I mean? I
Speaker 1: need to be charging y'all for shoutouts. I'm not mad
Speaker 1: at rolling y go ahead, Rolling Ray. Do you thing,
Speaker 1: bromp when you're reporting, you know somebody personally who he cam?
Speaker 1: It's not all lead Rolling reins came and nobody y'all
Speaker 1: asking that man for shout out for him, he'll get
Speaker 1: He'll get to it when he get to it. He
Speaker 1: get to it, that's right, guy, he's his man. He'll
Speaker 1: get the shout y'all out when you get to it.
Speaker 1: Huh but a year? Sorry, well he backed up clearly
Speaker 1: he got a long log. He gotta roll up on
Speaker 1: you soon. Don't worry about it by mad at that man,
Speaker 1: bothering that man for shoutouts. Man, Hello, who's this? It's
Speaker 1: your bail from Houston, touches O'Neil from ah ten. What
Speaker 1: up getting off her chests? Brother? Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: give a shout out to my boy dj R Penny
Speaker 1: aka d j empty on a good season one episode
Speaker 1: eight of East Who Yak Your Man? Thank you brother.
Speaker 1: You know. I was excited to do that. And uh,
Speaker 1: they're gonna bring me back. I think I'm on the
Speaker 1: first episode in the new year, and hopefully they bring
Speaker 1: me back for some other stuff. Man, I'm excited about it. Man,
Speaker 1: I love that series. The show is really good. If
Speaker 1: you haven't seen, it's called East New York because on CBS.
Speaker 1: Great show. And I'm just excited. Definitely said he's snitching.
Speaker 1: He definitely gonna snitch the next episode. I held it
Speaker 1: down the first episode. So they're gonna break them they
Speaker 1: ain't breaking. Yeah. Well, Also, I want to say that
Speaker 1: hip hop homicide that's also good with man, it's hip
Speaker 1: hop homicide, I say. I say homicide is the same
Speaker 1: way where you from. I'm from Louis He has a
Speaker 1: sovereign thing, I guess because I say hip hop homicide too.
Speaker 1: But it's homicide. Hey, that's one of the best shows
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Speaker 1: this week they're gonna be diving into the murder of
Speaker 1: X x X attention and uh it's and then after
Speaker 1: that they're gonna do MO three from Dallas. Uh, and
Speaker 1: then they're gonna do uh damn, I don't want to
Speaker 1: say his name wrong, uh FBG Duck Yeah O with Chicago, right,
Speaker 1: I gotta play. And they're gonna do one on pick
Speaker 1: off two well or not this year because those are
Speaker 1: the last three that they got XXX attention on, uh
Speaker 1: MO three and FBG Duck. But like I said, the
Speaker 1: way that you know so many of our our hip
Speaker 1: hop stars are passing and being killed, I mean this show.
Speaker 1: If you like how they do the show, there is
Speaker 1: because because the show addresses like all the socioeconomic conditions
Speaker 1: that lead to things like this happening. They deal with
Speaker 1: people's trauma. They deal with a lot of these brothers
Speaker 1: hurt and anger, so it's not just exploitation of a murder,
Speaker 1: you know, correct, And they talk to the right people
Speaker 1: of family members, people involved, police officers, uh, special agents, friends, pastors,
Speaker 1: and then they try to get a solution of why.
Speaker 1: You know, hopefully this can be solved and stopped. And
Speaker 1: maybe it's a good show, but y'all job yeah, y'll
Speaker 1: need to keep watching it up for people that ain't watching.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna give too much about it, but hey,
Speaker 1: it's a good show, right and you can stream it
Speaker 1: on all Black. Uh. And they got all the episodes
Speaker 1: up there. Shout the van laid the man he didn't.
Speaker 1: He does an amazing job on that show. All right, man,
Speaker 1: y'all have to aver good morning, peace King, Get it
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Speaker 1: Get it off your chess. Hey, I just want to
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Speaker 1: help me, help me push through a whole summer, like
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Speaker 1: you all, y'all flowers and all say thank you, thank you,
Speaker 1: appreciate that, appreciate you, brob yeah because show yeah, y'all
Speaker 1: have a good morning. Now. Hello, who's this going on?
Speaker 1: As Sean? What I'm getting off your chest? Man? I
Speaker 1: want to get it off my chest this morning. First
Speaker 1: of all, I live say good morning, Salomon, good morning.
Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, good morning for its
Speaker 1: I do on the day, do good. I'm doing good man,
Speaker 1: I'm celebrating my birthday. You know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: I'm bled right now. Man, I'm on board in the
Speaker 1: world castually, you know. I you know, I want to
Speaker 1: let down O. Man, I really appreciate l in the morning, town.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that little get to the day man, like
Speaker 1: in the morning palm man that you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: y'all tell me that that that that coach. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You can give me do the day that.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, I think King, Yeah, sir, and Sean.
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about your book too, Man.
Speaker 1: Can I get is it any way? Pop? I can
Speaker 1: get a copy of it. I don't have any at
Speaker 1: the current moments. I have to get a new shipment
Speaker 1: of Black Privilege as ship Corning. But as soon as
Speaker 1: I get them, I can get your information. We can
Speaker 1: send it out of the later date. But I can't
Speaker 1: send you a Black Effect snapback right now. You know
Speaker 1: my podcast that were Black Effect. I can send you
Speaker 1: that right now. Oh yeah, that's dope, Yes, sir, I
Speaker 1: appreciate the hold on. Yeah, Taylor red one of y'all
Speaker 1: put him a whole get his email and send that
Speaker 1: out today, please. He's line three. Hello. Who's this Hello?
Speaker 1: This is on the side of the one. Hey, I'm
Speaker 1: inspired writer. Uh, I'm wanting advice on how to move
Speaker 1: my book forward, like getting the Ball was calling to
Speaker 1: companies and things of that nature. Have you written a book? Answer?
Speaker 1: Excuse me? Have you written a book? I have your
Speaker 1: self published? Yeah? Yeah, y'all published it, y'all. I sent
Speaker 1: it to you one day, Charlemagne to the Redio station.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the name of it. It's
Speaker 1: called Real Essay Guide the President of the Baby Boy.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I gotta look for that one like I
Speaker 1: sent it like making a month ago. I told MV two.
Speaker 1: I gave MVY a copy for all of y'all lessons,
Speaker 1: but he said, you know, he busy, he worked. You know, well,
Speaker 1: I can't tell you the process of how to get
Speaker 1: it done, but I you know, I have a book
Speaker 1: publishing company called Black Privilege Publishing through Simon and Schust.
Speaker 1: We put out Tamika Mallory, State of Emergency, how to
Speaker 1: Win in the Country Were Built, and we put out
Speaker 1: and Need of Copack, Shallow Waters, and we have some
Speaker 1: amazing releases on the way. So the only thing I
Speaker 1: can tell you is that I will definitely look for
Speaker 1: your book and check it out, and you know, you
Speaker 1: can leave your information. But I can't give you no
Speaker 1: information on how to get a book deal. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean what I would tell you is keep doing
Speaker 1: what you're doing. I mean, I think you try to
Speaker 1: give me the book at the car show, but I
Speaker 1: would keeping up popping up at these places where people
Speaker 1: are and trying to sell that book. And it's like
Speaker 1: anything else is like back in the day. You gotta
Speaker 1: go hand in hand. You gotta be out there and
Speaker 1: selling the pitch. Because yeah, I'm always looking for fresh authors.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I mean, I have a lot
Speaker 1: of we have a lot of releases coming on black
Speaker 1: privilege publishing from a you know a lot of people
Speaker 1: that folks know, but I'm always looking for fresh publishers
Speaker 1: that got great stories. So I'm gonna look for that book,
Speaker 1: my brother. Yeah, we'll get it off your chest at
Speaker 1: the breakfast club. Good morning the breakfast Club. You know,
Speaker 1: some people have to wait a certain amount of time,
Speaker 1: some people had to pay people. Was just a conversation.
Speaker 1: So what was the process? Would you getting your masters above? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know when you when you have when you signed.
Speaker 1: You know, from our era when we did deals, it
Speaker 1: was standard for the labels to have control of the
Speaker 1: master for like seven years and then some of it
Speaker 1: will held every buy that back and then some of it.
Speaker 1: You know, it was all three. Do you talk to
Speaker 1: a lot of the Detroit artistcause it's Detroit. Is a
Speaker 1: new wave of artists coming out. Do you get a
Speaker 1: chance to speak with the younger artists and say, hey,
Speaker 1: this is how you should be signing your deals or
Speaker 1: is it one of those things when you're young you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we knew what we're doing. Anyway, No, I speak to
Speaker 1: him as much as I can. This is one of
Speaker 1: them dull is like enlightened beyond his years. But there's
Speaker 1: a few artists that I kind of mentor not to
Speaker 1: the degree of him, But there's a lot of companies.
Speaker 1: They come with a bag of money. They don't have
Speaker 1: much to offer, but since they have money upfront, and
Speaker 1: they're catching these guys at a time where they kind
Speaker 1: of need money or they feel like that they need money,
Speaker 1: it's already in the contract. I actually read somebody's proposal
Speaker 1: and it's said, we will have ownership of a master
Speaker 1: in perpetuity, and then we'll split everything sixty forty sixty
Speaker 1: US forty you and give you a five thousand dollars advance.
Speaker 1: And he was thinking about signing it for five thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: God dag, because yeah, because we don't five thousand number one,
Speaker 1: we programmed to think shortsided correct. We have no kind
Speaker 1: of like idea of how to place value on that master,
Speaker 1: so early on we don't know what it's going to
Speaker 1: be worth until it comes out, and then it goes
Speaker 1: and then it's like, damn, Okay, now I know a
Speaker 1: little bit more. Now I want to go get the
Speaker 1: master back. Now it's the same old song and dance
Speaker 1: publicly from a public platform. You bashing some company or
Speaker 1: something like that, which that don't look good either. There's
Speaker 1: an investment. The problem is we don't always understand the
Speaker 1: complexity other deals. But you can't be mad. You have
Speaker 1: to have an attorney. So that means your attorney looks
Speaker 1: over that paperwork in most cases. Yeah, but your attorney
Speaker 1: is their attorney. That's we got. I give you an
Speaker 1: attorney just to any attorney. But you know how that
Speaker 1: conversation came up in the car. I said, do you
Speaker 1: think it's possible for me, a black man to cultivate
Speaker 1: a real meaningful relationship with an artist and on his masters?
Speaker 1: And I said yeah. He said for period, for any
Speaker 1: period of time. I think so there is there any
Speaker 1: point where that artist is gonna get a little bit wiser,
Speaker 1: a little bit bigger, and then look look at it
Speaker 1: in retrospect. Is it possible for him or her not
Speaker 1: to harbor some Yeah, I agree with you already negotiate though,
Speaker 1: like when that artist catches that hit. It has to
Speaker 1: be a point where it said, Okay, I made my
Speaker 1: money back off the investment. Because it's not just five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. You gotta pay for travel, You gotta pay
Speaker 1: for war. That's the big for traveling you're paying for
Speaker 1: What would your renegotiation be? It depends how big direcorded.
Speaker 1: Like a perfect example, right Cardi B. When Cardy B
Speaker 1: was first side, they put a lot into Cardi B.
Speaker 1: But this you took off that should have been to
Speaker 1: renegotiate right then and there you got the one of
Speaker 1: the biggest female artists. Give it half the coopany, But
Speaker 1: then what happens when you got five Cardi bs? Ain't
Speaker 1: a label exactly. And that's what I was gonna say
Speaker 1: about the masters conversation. It's about the investment you put
Speaker 1: in them. You know what I mean. I don't want
Speaker 1: none of your masters if I didn't make a large investment.
Speaker 1: But if I made a large investment, man, I can
Speaker 1: see why I gotta get it back. And we're gonna
Speaker 1: be held to a different standard than the labels would be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're here the way, let's talk about Hole Buffy. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, don't abody to talk about Leod,
Speaker 1: don't abody to talk about none of these labels. Correct,
Speaker 1: But let Hoole do something, Let you do something. Let
Speaker 1: any of us do something, and it's just like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: you're wrong. How could you do that? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? But when you're investing somebody, you're paying for everything, right,
Speaker 1: So you're paying for studio talking, you're paying for them
Speaker 1: lights to be on, You're paying for the engineer, you're
Speaker 1: paying for the food for damn the water, traveling, hotels,
Speaker 1: wardrobe if they don't have it. Now he has to
Speaker 1: make a record. If that record don't pop, you don't
Speaker 1: get none of that money back. And you're doing it
Speaker 1: on some family, and that creates a sense of entitlement.
Speaker 1: That's why I asked in the context of building cultivating
Speaker 1: the relationship, because you know, we do everything on some family,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm so it's difficult to be able
Speaker 1: to do that kind of business and cultivate a relationship.
Speaker 1: Is that The other problem too, though, that the black
Speaker 1: executives do do the family thing. We're a family. We
Speaker 1: Rocked for life, we bad Boy for life. Isn't that
Speaker 1: to just be more business? That's what it always feels like,
Speaker 1: even when like you look at Meek signing the Raws
Speaker 1: or Drake and you know, Nikki signing the Wayne. It's
Speaker 1: a family. It's a family when we win. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: then when you start throwing them bricks out and it's
Speaker 1: f that person that you just called your family, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I don't know. I say that
Speaker 1: because we want fans. Is that's when we come from
Speaker 1: though and our culture. We come from broken family. So
Speaker 1: the ability to make money with our family ain't just music.
Speaker 1: I mean, it could be the dope game too, but
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it still starts with leadership.
Speaker 1: I went out there when when Puff was working on
Speaker 1: the press Play album. I went out there to work
Speaker 1: for him, and it's you had me in like a
Speaker 1: MIDI room just writing versus over and over and over
Speaker 1: again while he was in the bigger, luxurious a room
Speaker 1: with all of his celebrity friends, and I was just like, Man,
Speaker 1: this ain't paid me. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: this brying me. About ten years later, after I was
Speaker 1: a little wiser, I looked at him in retrospect. Man,
Speaker 1: I had to hit him on the DM. I didn't
Speaker 1: have his num. I had to hear him on the
Speaker 1: DM man to tell him how much I appreciate him,
Speaker 1: how much I took from that, Like it was because
Speaker 1: of that process that I started to rewrite in my
Speaker 1: own creative process. I was like, I didn't even rewrite
Speaker 1: my own just much. Why don't I approach but this
Speaker 1: same kind of intensity I poured that from it, and
Speaker 1: just the opportunity, you know what I mean, Like sometimes man,
Speaker 1: we take for granted the opportunity. And I looked at
Speaker 1: him and thought about how many great things he's contributed
Speaker 1: to the culture, and how much all of the bad
Speaker 1: stuff or the quote unquote bad stuff is always placed
Speaker 1: in front of the same with Baby. I wish I
Speaker 1: could call Baby and tell him how great I think
Speaker 1: he is, you know, I mean, because it's like every
Speaker 1: time you hear about these guys as well, they're on drugs,
Speaker 1: they're doing this, getting them doing this. But it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: the'se It's been existing since nineteen ninety seven legends. If
Speaker 1: that was anybody else from any other culture of people,
Speaker 1: these would be they would be status. No, we have
Speaker 1: appreciate even Dame. I was. I've seen Dame this weekend.
Speaker 1: I was on a panel with him and the middle
Speaker 1: of panel I had to say thank you, and he
Speaker 1: was like, for what I was like back then when
Speaker 1: I was doing mixtapes, even though it was like ninety nine.
Speaker 1: I was like, you had an opportunity to do the
Speaker 1: Rockefeller mixtapes with Clue, with S and S with Flex
Speaker 1: what you said you wanted a young DJ at the time,
Speaker 1: and you pick me? And I was like, thank you
Speaker 1: because you were cheaper. You know that. I said thank you,
Speaker 1: But I was like, you know what, when you grow
Speaker 1: a little bit, we really understand how how grateful it
Speaker 1: was to have that opportunity because we don't have those opportunity. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But I will say though, ten years ago you other
Speaker 1: know New Royce, No no, no, no, I was saying
Speaker 1: time you're in the b room. Now you ain't. No
Speaker 1: New was saying ten years later from when that was
Speaker 1: Camember the press playoffs. Yeah, but even with that, Russia
Speaker 1: the five not should have been treating with a little
Speaker 1: bit more respect. I think, no, no, no, I was
Speaker 1: on a private jet with them. We went to talk. Okay,
Speaker 1: when we was up at daddy shouse. You remember how
Speaker 1: long ago we got more with Royce to five nine.
Speaker 1: When we come back, Dope moves to Breakfast Club. Good Morning,
Speaker 1: the Breakfast Club the morning. Everybody is DJ Envy Charlomagne
Speaker 1: the guy. We are the Breakfast Club. We're still kicking
Speaker 1: it with Royce to five nine. And I got to
Speaker 1: ask slaughter house of y'all back on good terms. I
Speaker 1: don't know what month this was, what week it was.
Speaker 1: I happened to turn Instagram, and I've seen y'all arguing
Speaker 1: on Instagram. You would you would have you were the
Speaker 1: middle man, you would have one trying to calm things down.
Speaker 1: And they were going back and forth, and I just
Speaker 1: turned to I was like, I can't see these bubbs
Speaker 1: arguing anymore. So you're back good. I mean, I could
Speaker 1: never say we're bad, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 1: they listen, man, we've been We've spent ten years together. Man,
Speaker 1: Damn there every day building something special, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And it just it just ended in a
Speaker 1: very unfortunate way. But I can't just sum it up
Speaker 1: like that. Now. We haven't spoken. Two of the guys,
Speaker 1: Crooked and Joel, made some made some decisions that you know,
Speaker 1: we can't really come back from in terms of business.
Speaker 1: That's really it. Decision was they decided to do their
Speaker 1: own group or do their own thing together. I'n give
Speaker 1: you the short version, but me and Joe is sitting
Speaker 1: around minding our own business, and we look up and
Speaker 1: they start rolling out a project. The project was called
Speaker 1: The Rise and Fall a Slaughterhouse. They put this project
Speaker 1: out and the project is announcing to the world that
Speaker 1: the group is over. And this is while we had
Speaker 1: already went through a long negotiation with Shady to pull
Speaker 1: the group off the label so we can do things
Speaker 1: moving forward, so we can make another album, so we
Speaker 1: can relaunch merchandise, so we can relaunch everything Slaughterhouse. So
Speaker 1: y'all were gonna do another album, even Joe was gonna
Speaker 1: do get in the studio and do another album at
Speaker 1: that time. Absolutely okay. The whole album was basically about
Speaker 1: how Joe Knock gonna wrap Tricket came to the table
Speaker 1: with a deal idea. We didn't want to do it,
Speaker 1: so day over it. They're done, The group is done.
Speaker 1: And I just felt like that was a hell of
Speaker 1: a thing to blindside me with as a friend and
Speaker 1: as a business partner, because number one, if the group
Speaker 1: is gonna be over, that's fine. Things in let me
Speaker 1: know that. Or if you're gonna go public and say
Speaker 1: that you're done with the group, that's school. But don't
Speaker 1: just go public and just announced that the group is done.
Speaker 1: I expected more out of crookeet. I didn't have as
Speaker 1: much of a problem with Joel, because you know, me
Speaker 1: and Joel always been been cool. But me and Crook, well,
Speaker 1: I thought we were better than that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. So it was more of a personal thing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: bring myself to a point where I can get on
Speaker 1: a public platform and bash any of them though, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I got too much love for him,
Speaker 1: and I think the amount of love I got for
Speaker 1: him is what made me so disappointed. Bunn told me,
Speaker 1: like when we first, when Slaughterhouse first became a thing,
Speaker 1: he called me and any time I ever aired out
Speaker 1: anything publicly if it involved family, I always regretted it.
Speaker 1: I'd always resonated with Since that conversation, I've went and
Speaker 1: done that probably fifty times, and I regretted it every time.
Speaker 1: So you know, so that's one of the things that
Speaker 1: I'm working on. So to answer your question, no, no
Speaker 1: more slaughter House, but still nothing beloved. Always I respect everything,
Speaker 1: as you said, and I feel like that should have
Speaker 1: been an easy conversation for Crooking in Joel because Joe
Speaker 1: don't want to rap, so he don't want to wrap.
Speaker 1: There's no slaughter House, so why shouldn't he be able
Speaker 1: to go do their own project. Well, it's easy to
Speaker 1: paint Joe as that because of how many things he
Speaker 1: said publicly. But when we're having conference calls and he's
Speaker 1: a part of every call and we having creative conversations
Speaker 1: about what we're gonna do next, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: He was gonna get back in the doing. Joe staying
Speaker 1: is I'm retired doing. I'm in the content space. But
Speaker 1: I'm really into ownership right now. I will wrap in
Speaker 1: slaughter House. If we own it, it can't be on Shady,
Speaker 1: And if we decide to take it to another label,
Speaker 1: I would be particular on how we would do that
Speaker 1: deal because we already built this. This is something we've
Speaker 1: built already, and I agree it shouldn't just sit on
Speaker 1: Shady if Shady doesn't want to release it. And this
Speaker 1: is respectfully because I love them too always, So to
Speaker 1: get to that point with Joe being way more knowledgeable
Speaker 1: obviously myself being way more knowledgeable, and then just having
Speaker 1: it in our possession and for them to just jump
Speaker 1: the gun like that because of a deal that he
Speaker 1: put on the table, which he that's never been his
Speaker 1: role in the group. But I mean, anything that anybody
Speaker 1: put on the table, I would consider it. But I
Speaker 1: think that we should be allowed to ask questions. Right
Speaker 1: if I put something on the table for us and
Speaker 1: you ask questions, or even if you say no, does
Speaker 1: that mean everything is over? Or does that mean we
Speaker 1: go to another label. We hadn't talked to any other
Speaker 1: labels yet. We hadn't even talked to a label in
Speaker 1: that situation. We talked to a guy who was talking
Speaker 1: to a label. We never had nothing on paper. There
Speaker 1: never was a proposal in black and white for us
Speaker 1: to look at. It was just a conversation. He didn't
Speaker 1: like how the conversation went, so he decided we're gonna
Speaker 1: go do this playing devil's advocate, Like, do you feel
Speaker 1: like the white Devil's advocate? We know Joe was doing
Speaker 1: well with his content, creating everything that he's doing. You're
Speaker 1: obviously doing well. Could it be a situation where maybe
Speaker 1: Joel and Crooked weren't doing as well because the group
Speaker 1: was so much financial for them. I mean, y'all were
Speaker 1: going on towards y'all. I don't think y'all ever really
Speaker 1: got the money that y'all deserved. Yet you feel like
Speaker 1: maybe that was their way of saying, look, I gotta
Speaker 1: feed my family at the end of the day. Possibly,
Speaker 1: and I mean listen. That makes it even worse because
Speaker 1: it's like, bro, if that's what it was, we who
Speaker 1: are you supposed to have been talking to? I understand
Speaker 1: the ups and down. So if it's if this is
Speaker 1: a downtime, because there's been plenty of things that I've
Speaker 1: done that I've done because one of my rules in
Speaker 1: the group was I don't like I'm not doing any
Speaker 1: three man shows. All members gotta be there. There's been
Speaker 1: plenty of times Joe couldn't make it where they were like, yo, listen,
Speaker 1: we need you to come do this because we need
Speaker 1: the money. And I did it like Roy's gonna be played.
Speaker 1: It was a bad deal. There were times when when
Speaker 1: Joe was ready to wrap and we couldn't get Crooked
Speaker 1: to rap. They don't talk about that, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like Crook and Cook always ready to wrap.
Speaker 1: Bok didn't want to know. See see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: See See, people got the wrong impression about people. And
Speaker 1: that's why Joe is easy to paint as a certain thing.
Speaker 1: He's easy talking. Yeah, and Joel look like they look
Speaker 1: like the blue collar guys, correct, you know the guys
Speaker 1: who you know willing the road, they sleeves up, all
Speaker 1: that crook. He had his ways about him the whole time.
Speaker 1: He's always had some issue with Joe that he wouldn't address.
Speaker 1: It was always in the air. I can't quite put
Speaker 1: my finger on what that was. But this getting made
Speaker 1: Joe disrecords. He didn't did it all types of you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, People just didn't hear. And there
Speaker 1: was a time where he was like, nah, I ain't wrapping.
Speaker 1: Nobody went out and put out an album about him
Speaker 1: not rapping and saying that the group is over with.
Speaker 1: It's just it's messy. And then on the business side
Speaker 1: it's like, yo, you you're not up up your too.
Speaker 1: And then you know, like during the whole process, you
Speaker 1: had to paint me in a certain light in order
Speaker 1: to be able to do that, And I'm just trying
Speaker 1: to figure out what what did I do to deserve that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there's no record a silent because I heard.
Speaker 1: I heard people are getting invited to the Frank Stand.
Speaker 1: I never did, didn't somebody said SMD on one of
Speaker 1: those calls. Oh no, no, Joe, Joe, Joe one of them.
Speaker 1: I was like, Joe, Yeah, Joe said that project, that
Speaker 1: project of SMD. He said that project that probably can
Speaker 1: suck much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh maybe it was
Speaker 1: the project. Oh yeah, maybe that's not That's just that
Speaker 1: when I started seeing him lives like, you know what, enough,
Speaker 1: that was just that was just some Joe to say though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like it was It wasn't
Speaker 1: like Joel know how Joe talked, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So that wasn't That wasn't really nothing. That was one
Speaker 1: of the things where you can take it. You can
Speaker 1: take it super super offensive and personal if you if
Speaker 1: you choose to. But Joe, Joel said a lot of them.
Speaker 1: He said a lot of weird stuff too, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like everybody played that part. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: holding myself accountable for the for the part that I
Speaker 1: played to you know what I mean. But I mean
Speaker 1: it's a little part did you play you think? I mean,
Speaker 1: you're making it hard for me because I don't do
Speaker 1: much wrong, Charlie Man, I just I just I just um.
Speaker 1: I did that thing that I was talking about. I
Speaker 1: went on Joe's show, and I was frustrated in my
Speaker 1: reaction to what they did. Caused Crook to react to
Speaker 1: how I reacted. What he said made me block them.
Speaker 1: It made me block them on social media and made
Speaker 1: me block his number because I don't. I love them
Speaker 1: too much and I don't want nothing else to get said.
Speaker 1: It's gonna put me up there, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And I don't feel like there's anything that should go
Speaker 1: on in the wrap space that should even bring you
Speaker 1: to that, you know what I mean. But we all
Speaker 1: we all gardened something, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 1: we all garden rather it's our egos. We come from
Speaker 1: environments where the measuring stick cool some souped up tough guy,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like everybody's like, watch how
Speaker 1: you talk to me. Respect me, But everybody ain't being
Speaker 1: so respectful, you know so well. We appreciate you brothers
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Speaker 1: talking about Kevin Gates and open up the phone lines.
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Speaker 1: Kevin Gates. Posters posted this on Twitter yesterday. If a
Speaker 1: woman comes in the bathroom and talks to me while
Speaker 1: I'm taking an ish, I find that very romantic. Now
Speaker 1: do you like when your wife comes in the bathroom
Speaker 1: it has a conversation with you? Absolutely not. That's not
Speaker 1: something that we do. I hate poop, first of all,
Speaker 1: don't like it. I know everyone does it, but it's
Speaker 1: literally one of my least favorite things to do. I
Speaker 1: don't look at it when it's in the toilet. I
Speaker 1: know some people like to look at it and make
Speaker 1: sure it's like, you know, in the shape of a
Speaker 1: Superman logo, like I don't do Yeah, I don't do
Speaker 1: none of that, you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: when you are moving vows, it's a sacred experience and
Speaker 1: you should expel with by yourself. I don't want my
Speaker 1: wife in the bathroom with me while I'm pooping. There's
Speaker 1: nothing cute about that. It's nothing sexy about that. I
Speaker 1: mean to me, Kevin Gates, that's him to him, to
Speaker 1: each his own, and to me, No, yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: the same. I don't. I don't see nothing the sex
Speaker 1: of it. I don't want to have a conversation, although
Speaker 1: I set up shot, but I go to the bathroom though,
Speaker 1: like I said, like, I'm not in the bathroom for
Speaker 1: like thirty seconds. I'm magazine. Nah, not me, Nah, I
Speaker 1: got my phone. No, I'm too old to lay something.
Speaker 1: I might be paying my bills. I'm doing like I
Speaker 1: really take my time, like I sometimes I'm all that
Speaker 1: so long my feet fall a skip that happens to
Speaker 1: me all the time. And I don't even gotta be
Speaker 1: on that long. That's why I don't do it no more.
Speaker 1: I meant to get. I liked him step stools my
Speaker 1: sister Alicia, and they told me a long time ago
Speaker 1: to get one of them stools. Like it's like a
Speaker 1: squatty party there you go when you put your legs
Speaker 1: up while you're pooping, so you put your legs up
Speaker 1: while you do That's that's just too much. But I
Speaker 1: will tell you something. When I got a callinic, I
Speaker 1: did that. It was amazing. Not gonna lie. What part
Speaker 1: did you like? What the calonic part? I like the
Speaker 1: whole process. I mean, it's a little uncomfortable, but I'm
Speaker 1: talking about like when the after you the calonic is done,
Speaker 1: you gotta go sit on the toilet in the calonic place.
Speaker 1: And she had a squatty party in there. And I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie, man. I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: the calonic of the squatt a party, but it dumped
Speaker 1: like you dump dump dump, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If it was, it felt good and my leg weren't
Speaker 1: sleepy when I got up. I'm glad you finally good.
Speaker 1: But yeah, answer your question. No, I don't want my
Speaker 1: woman in the bathroom with me while I'm taking the poop.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to be in there with her
Speaker 1: what she's taking? No, I mean, hello, who's this? Hey?
Speaker 1: This is representing the ball? Yeah, what's up? Bro? We're
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, pooping in front of your partner,
Speaker 1: all right, subjective about think about it normally. How many
Speaker 1: people have you pooped in front of them? Not even
Speaker 1: very few, nobody besides my wife. And this is when
Speaker 1: when it has to happen. But I don't think I've
Speaker 1: ever pooped in front of my wife. My mama went
Speaker 1: out of the baby was atte. So the highest level
Speaker 1: of intimacy is pooping in front of your partner. No,
Speaker 1: it's not no more intimate than that. That is not
Speaker 1: true romantic. That's just simply not true romantic. And only
Speaker 1: my wife only comes to the bathroom. She has to,
Speaker 1: like you might like, she might need something out the bathroom,
Speaker 1: and when she comes in there, she's coming in like
Speaker 1: full gas mask or like ah. And by your logic,
Speaker 1: you might as well walk around with a dipe on
Speaker 1: and let your wife change you and wipe you and
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff, and that intimate too. Absolutely, have
Speaker 1: a blessed day, sir, Have a blessed don't kink shaming,
Speaker 1: Have a blessed don't kink shading? Hello, who's this? What's
Speaker 1: going on? This is a DJ? This is lit. I'm
Speaker 1: wanting the radio. That's lit. It's lit. You poop in
Speaker 1: front of your partner. I'm sorry you're poop in front
Speaker 1: of your partner? Um, yeah, I do. Definitely you've got
Speaker 1: you because that's not let you know that. That's the
Speaker 1: who's got a real one? That means definitely down for
Speaker 1: the You know what, boy, y'all got some y'all got
Speaker 1: some weird ways to make sure that your woman is real? No,
Speaker 1: because you know you, I mean because you have to,
Speaker 1: because that's something natural of people be like ill, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like when you first start
Speaker 1: dating somebody like you, you know how many farts you
Speaker 1: hold in? Yeah, that's not healthy. You gotta let it
Speaker 1: out for somebody that you could feel comfortable with, that
Speaker 1: let you you couldst of all and all that we
Speaker 1: have conversations. First of all, I don't fart in my clothes.
Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two, why would you want to
Speaker 1: fart around anybody? That's just disrespectful. Like it's just it's
Speaker 1: like nobody just sits around and foughts. You ain't never
Speaker 1: just been in the casual conversation with persons and they
Speaker 1: just fought. Maybe when you was a kid, but when
Speaker 1: you're an adult, you don't do stuff like that. Why
Speaker 1: would you do that around your wife? So this is
Speaker 1: what I do when if I'm in public and I
Speaker 1: gotta fart, I just I just step away. I just say,
Speaker 1: excuse me, I stepped to the side, fart and let
Speaker 1: it air out. Wait about a couple of seconds, because
Speaker 1: you don't want it to linger in them to respect,
Speaker 1: that's respect, that's respects. So why wouldn't you give you
Speaker 1: a woman that same respect? Why would you fart in
Speaker 1: front of her just because you think you can. That's
Speaker 1: just disrespectful for you. While we've been together for a while,
Speaker 1: you haven't saying you fought. You gotta let it, you
Speaker 1: gotta go, you gotta go. That's a family member at
Speaker 1: this point. If you're am fan, No, you don't have
Speaker 1: y'all show you faring fun of your wife, not on purpose. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you gotta let it go. Yo. You know it's
Speaker 1: it's a chemical imbalance when you um hold I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't fight in front of me. I don't fight
Speaker 1: my clothes. Oh yeah, I will fall. I would pass
Speaker 1: gas from my wife and my kids and my family,
Speaker 1: not me. I ain't issued in front of us were
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna hea bade. Let's have this conversation in
Speaker 1: the bathroom. I'm pooping. I'm not gonna do that. Wait
Speaker 1: real quick, I just want to say this. I want
Speaker 1: to keep you on too long. I've been calling the
Speaker 1: radio since I was a kid. This is my first
Speaker 1: time I ever get into that's wild. I just gonna
Speaker 1: be a good day today. Me on the ground, I'm Charlotte,
Speaker 1: and I'm every following me on the ground. All right,
Speaker 1: all right, man, I won't say the beauty of having
Speaker 1: young kids that I you know, I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 1: I got a six year old and a tune to
Speaker 1: be three year old. Like, if you do accidentally fart,
Speaker 1: you can always blame it on them. I do that
Speaker 1: all the time. Hello this Hey, what me? Just a
Speaker 1: big from Myrtle Beach And what's up brother, Myrtle Beach.
Speaker 1: We're talking about pooping, ain't man, partner? Huh? I got
Speaker 1: the thick man. I thought about this and I got
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, I did. Finally the first time it happened,
Speaker 1: I thought she was the one because back in high
Speaker 1: school I was at Kante, I couldn't poop in front
Speaker 1: of everybody, so I had to go to the whole
Speaker 1: tech fielding. So I felt like if I felt that
Speaker 1: comfortable around her, she was the one. Why would you
Speaker 1: have to poop in front of everybody? Sir? You know
Speaker 1: when you go, you know kids are in high school.
Speaker 1: So man, I'm sure you got trauma times something when oh,
Speaker 1: you go to the regular basketment. If you're poop in
Speaker 1: high school, everybody comes and opened the door and nothing, dude,
Speaker 1: do whatever you know. I can honestly say, and this
Speaker 1: is not a lie. I've never pooped in high school.
Speaker 1: I never pooped in the bathroom in high school. You
Speaker 1: held it till you came home. I just never had
Speaker 1: to in school. I don't know why my bows got
Speaker 1: a lot more regular as I got older in school.
Speaker 1: I never, I never. I never pooped in high school.
Speaker 1: If you have a strong summer, because that pizza and
Speaker 1: me up surprise had me going. Man after her period. Wait,
Speaker 1: wait when you come out and you came out of ninety's,
Speaker 1: I came out of ninety or ninety eight, But I
Speaker 1: supposed to be ninety six. So damn yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: remember pooping in high school. I never Yeah, music, I
Speaker 1: also want to day, man, I love the positivity you brother,
Speaker 1: cheep the going. I appreciated it and it keeps me
Speaker 1: going every day. Man, Thank you King. All right, what's
Speaker 1: the all of the story. More of the story is
Speaker 1: to each his own. You know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you what I don't do. You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Kevin Gate, that's what worked for him and
Speaker 1: his queen. You know, me and my queen roll a
Speaker 1: different way. That's all. But once again, I don't like poop.
Speaker 1: I don't even like to be in the bathroom with
Speaker 1: myself when I poop. It's the breakfast club morning, the
Speaker 1: breakfast club, and I'm molling everybody's we are the breakfast clubs.
Speaker 1: Especial guests joining us today. Indeed, we have Cheryl Mckissac
Speaker 1: Daniel and Don Peoples. Welcome, Hello, now, welcome back. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know, Cheryl is the president of CEO and Don
Speaker 1: is the founder, chairman and CEO of the People's Corporation.
Speaker 1: Let me tell y'all something. It's been a lot of
Speaker 1: rappers in this room, a lot of athletes in this room. Okay,
Speaker 1: just might be the most money been in this room
Speaker 1: at one time. That's all I'm gonna say. A fact,
Speaker 1: just a fact, might be the most money that's been
Speaker 1: in this room at one time. I just want to
Speaker 1: say that, how are you all today? Well? We are great, Okay,
Speaker 1: glad to be here, Glad that you are having us
Speaker 1: in to talk about Affirmation Tower. That's right. And he said,
Speaker 1: y'all wanted to be the most inclusive skyscraper in New
Speaker 1: York City. What does that mean? He be a break
Speaker 1: that down because they came ahead bullying me. First of all,
Speaker 1: just because I went to Hampton University. They can't bully
Speaker 1: talking on this Howard stuff. But explain what that that
Speaker 1: project is about, that inclusive skyscraper. Listen. It was last
Speaker 1: year when cbr EL, a large brokerage firm, came to
Speaker 1: me and they said, listen, this is up for grabs
Speaker 1: and the only person that we think can develop this
Speaker 1: is Don Peoples. And I'm like, Don's a friend. He
Speaker 1: was already looking at this project. And so you know,
Speaker 1: if the best in the brightest of this country feel
Speaker 1: that way, then we certainly know we can do this.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna let Don explain the project. Well, great,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, Caryl and I have been friends, and
Speaker 1: she and her sister were freshmen, and oh, y'all got
Speaker 1: some stories. And I was in the real beginning and
Speaker 1: going to the real estate business. And Cheryl's family has
Speaker 1: a long history in it, and Cheryl's done an amazing
Speaker 1: job in building her business here in New York and
Speaker 1: other parts of the country. And so when the opportunity
Speaker 1: to come build a building across the street from the
Speaker 1: Jabbat Center, one of the major attractions in New York City,
Speaker 1: I thought, what better place than to build what will be, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: the first skyscraper in New York City built by black people.
Speaker 1: And it's mindboding. I'm sure black people will build something,
Speaker 1: but it wasn't. No black people actually behind it on
Speaker 1: the financial level. That's exactly right, that black people worked
Speaker 1: on it, but they and not enough, by the way,
Speaker 1: because the construction industry has been discriminating over the years
Speaker 1: as well in terms of the high paying jobs that
Speaker 1: are generated by them. But that's stranging. So I thought that,
Speaker 1: you know, we ought to build this building should be
Speaker 1: built by black developers. And so I thought about this
Speaker 1: as also we want to send a message that we
Speaker 1: all work together. And so I called Cheryl first and look,
Speaker 1: you know, I want you in your company as a
Speaker 1: construction company to build this building, but also I want
Speaker 1: you to be a developer a partner with us in that.
Speaker 1: So she came in Craig Livingston, who has been a
Speaker 1: trailblazer in terms of economic empowerment for black real estate
Speaker 1: professionals and entrepreneurs. We brought him on as a developer
Speaker 1: as well and put together a team that's eighty percent
Speaker 1: black owned. And then we were designing it, I thought,
Speaker 1: we want an architecture's going to make a powerful statement.
Speaker 1: So we picked David Aga, who I've worked with before
Speaker 1: and who was the architect for the Museum for African
Speaker 1: American History and Culture in Washington, DC, which is the
Speaker 1: most visited museum in the whole Smithsonian system since the
Speaker 1: day had opened. And then we committed to thirty five
Speaker 1: percent minority contract and get a minimum threshold to build
Speaker 1: that building. And then you know, when we're designing the building,
Speaker 1: it was going to be super tall. But then I said,
Speaker 1: why not build the tallest building. Let's build the tallest
Speaker 1: building in the Western Hemisphere, built first building to be
Speaker 1: built by black people in New York City in terms
Speaker 1: of financially, and let's make it the tallest one in
Speaker 1: the Western Hemisphere. And so that's what we started doing.
Speaker 1: How much will this building costs to make it? How
Speaker 1: long would it take? Three point six billion dollars? It's
Speaker 1: some work, but we're gonna get it done and it
Speaker 1: will be one of the biggest projects built in New
Speaker 1: York City. And it meets two moments. So right now
Speaker 1: we're coming out of COVID, so America and New York
Speaker 1: has got to build back. But we got to do
Speaker 1: it differently. We got to be inclusive, because that's the
Speaker 1: other moment. I mean, these protests that we've had around
Speaker 1: a country over the last two years, especially last year,
Speaker 1: was about fighting for equal treatment under the law for
Speaker 1: black people, but also for us to have our seat
Speaker 1: at the table. Economically, is it residential or is it
Speaker 1: going to be commercial? Office? Two hotels, So starting on
Speaker 1: the podium that'll have a cultural center that the NAACP's
Speaker 1: putting together, and then officers for the NAACP, and then
Speaker 1: last week, Reverend Sharpton and I made an agreement that
Speaker 1: we're going to bring the Civil Rights Museum there as well,
Speaker 1: so that'll be on the lower levels of the building,
Speaker 1: and then we'll have some restaurant and other space on
Speaker 1: the top of the what's supporting the bigger part. And
Speaker 1: then as we go up the tower, two hotels and
Speaker 1: then officers and then up top three levels of the
Speaker 1: event venue space, a observation deck. And to put the
Speaker 1: icing on the cake, we are putting an ice skating
Speaker 1: ring on top of the building, on top of the building,
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred feet up in the air. Everything is intentional.
Speaker 1: So the name the affirmation towel what at the meeting
Speaker 1: behind the end, we're affirming that we're meeting those two
Speaker 1: points in time. When you look at the tower, it
Speaker 1: looks like it's upside down, and that's another message. We
Speaker 1: are turning things upside down. We want to open up
Speaker 1: this system to people like ours. But as you know,
Speaker 1: when black people are owners, it creates an echosystem where
Speaker 1: we help people all along the line. So how long
Speaker 1: do you think it's going to take to actually complete
Speaker 1: this project. It will take us when we start construction
Speaker 1: about three years, and before that it'll take about a
Speaker 1: year and a half of designed So we're about five
Speaker 1: years out. How difficult was it to get this project?
Speaker 1: I mean, and we're still fighting for it. I mean,
Speaker 1: we are fighting for it now. It's very difficult, but
Speaker 1: I mean I expect it to be difficult. I mean,
Speaker 1: but we're knocking down barriers each day. And in reality,
Speaker 1: Doctor King, Mecca ever John Lewis, it was hard for
Speaker 1: them too. And we're doing it in other cities. We
Speaker 1: just want a huge project. In Boston. Yep. Last week
Speaker 1: we got with the Republican governor. Well, actually it was
Speaker 1: eas easier because so give you a sense. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm a big boot. I'm a Democrat, lifelong Democrat, but
Speaker 1: I'm like when Henry Kissinger said about America, he said,
Speaker 1: America has no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, interress black people.
Speaker 1: We gotta have no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, permanent interest.
Speaker 1: So the governor, Charlie Baker in Boston decided that he
Speaker 1: saw the unfairness in the system. So what he did
Speaker 1: is every project that he's doing in that state, twenty
Speaker 1: five points out of a hundred, is for equity for
Speaker 1: people of color. Always ask this question, and I don't
Speaker 1: even know you can have one without the other. But
Speaker 1: what's more important economic equity are equality? Oh wow, that's
Speaker 1: a really good question. But I would say the economics
Speaker 1: are very important, because then that's gonna help create the equality.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, Don always says this about venture capitalists,
Speaker 1: and they're sixty nine trillion dollars of money out there
Speaker 1: that's been invested it, but only one point three percent
Speaker 1: of it has been invested by black firms. So we
Speaker 1: are so upside down on the economic ladder that we
Speaker 1: just have to do something about that. If we can
Speaker 1: have access to economic opportunity, we can solve our own problems.
Speaker 1: We can deal with our own community. But you keep
Speaker 1: blocking us from economic opportunity, then we're going to continue
Speaker 1: to struggle. So we can do it for ourselves. Then
Speaker 1: we can expand our community and take care of our
Speaker 1: own issues, and we can support our own organizations. And
Speaker 1: they need to stop looking at us. I said this
Speaker 1: yesterday to group of white business people. You all need
Speaker 1: to stop looking at doing business with black people of
Speaker 1: philanthropic it's good business for you, that's right, all right.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we have more with Cheryl McKissick,
Speaker 1: Daniel and Don Peebles so don't move us to Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club morning. Everybody is DJ Envy, Charlomnea Goad, we are
Speaker 1: to Breakfast Club. We're still kicking it with Cheryl McKissick,
Speaker 1: Daniel and Don Peebles. We got to go back to
Speaker 1: the origin story because when I hear you know, y'all
Speaker 1: knew each other as freshman at Howard University, that's like
Speaker 1: some outliers divine alignment type stuff, like did y'all both
Speaker 1: know that's what y'all wanted to do in the future.
Speaker 1: When I met Don, Don had bought his first apartment
Speaker 1: in DC, and I said, how well, I was a
Speaker 1: freshman freshman and I was two years I think I'm
Speaker 1: two years older than right. So he was in college
Speaker 1: and he had bought an apartment, and I remember my
Speaker 1: twin sister and are saying to each other, well, who
Speaker 1: does that apartments when you're in college? And Don said
Speaker 1: then he said, I'm going to do transformational development. My
Speaker 1: sister and I we always knew we were going to
Speaker 1: be in the family business. I mean, we're a fifth generation.
Speaker 1: We always knew that. But then over the years Don
Speaker 1: was in DC Philadelphia, and we kept saying we're gonna
Speaker 1: work together at some point. We are definitely going to
Speaker 1: work together, but it just has to be the right project.
Speaker 1: So we know, MCKINNI gets fifth generation is people's first generations.
Speaker 1: You get the money to buy that help farm and done.
Speaker 1: You don't want to tell you it was I started yourself.
Speaker 1: I started working. I quit college after my freshman year
Speaker 1: and started working in real estate. And frankly, I mean,
Speaker 1: it was a black government, it was a black mayor,
Speaker 1: and they were focused on economic compowerment for black people.
Speaker 1: So I felt it was a good place to start
Speaker 1: doing business. And so I got exposed to real estate
Speaker 1: because my mother was a real estate sales agent and
Speaker 1: a broker, and so I learned from her. I started
Speaker 1: my own company when I was twenty three, wow, and
Speaker 1: built my first building when I was twenty six. But
Speaker 1: I couldn't have done it anywhere else. DC at that
Speaker 1: time was mecca for black economic empowerment. It was Atlanta
Speaker 1: and DC. Maran Barry, Yeah and Maryan Bear for all
Speaker 1: his faults, you know, he was Yeah. At his memorial service,
Speaker 1: Minister Farcom mentioned that about his history of everything that
Speaker 1: you know, he was being criticized for having a drug
Speaker 1: abuse problem, and he said, who are you talking about,
Speaker 1: John Kennedy because it wasn't so yeah. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: Barry was transformative and the government at that time was
Speaker 1: and they knocked down opportunities, barriers to opportunities for black
Speaker 1: business people. Bob Johnson got a start in DC. I
Speaker 1: got mine, many other black business people did. But I
Speaker 1: met Cheryl and her sister. They were freshman in college
Speaker 1: and her cousin was a good friend of mine, and
Speaker 1: so we became friends, and we both had kind of
Speaker 1: common entriests. They were going into the family business. I
Speaker 1: was building mine and some of my sons in our business.
Speaker 1: Now he's twenty seven and my daughter's nineteen and at TCU,
Speaker 1: and I'm hopeful that she will go into the business
Speaker 1: as well, and we can build some legacy. But part
Speaker 1: of the legacy I want to build is demonstrating how
Speaker 1: we can work together, because I may not be able
Speaker 1: to do a three point six billion dollar building by myself,
Speaker 1: Cheryl may not be able to Craig, but collectively we can.
Speaker 1: But John, you didn't need us, I mean financially, but
Speaker 1: I needed you all in every other way. Um, and
Speaker 1: you all bring tremendous resources to the table. I know
Speaker 1: people are watching this and they were all so good man.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this just feel so good man. I
Speaker 1: know people are watching this and then they want to
Speaker 1: know how though, Like it's you know, it's easy to
Speaker 1: say I bought my first building any but but how
Speaker 1: where did the capital come from? Like? Where does one start? Well?
Speaker 1: I think the first thing is with a dream. I
Speaker 1: mean developers are dreamers, um with visionaries and so with
Speaker 1: the dream and with a plan and becoming a student
Speaker 1: of the business and I mean beasts. You can be
Speaker 1: self taught, read some books, learn about the business. It's
Speaker 1: not a complicated business by the way supply and demand,
Speaker 1: So understanding the business, having a dream and having a
Speaker 1: dream to be achievable, but you know, pushing and then
Speaker 1: I'm finding an idea. Once you find an idea, then
Speaker 1: you can raise money for it. Now, what Cheryl touched on,
Speaker 1: if you're black, don't expect it to be easy. Um.
Speaker 1: The Federal Reserved did a study last year, just sixty
Speaker 1: nine trillion dollars investing in equity and venture capital, and
Speaker 1: that's normally goes. That's where real estate developers get equity
Speaker 1: for their project from private equity, But just sixty nine
Speaker 1: trillion dollars invested in private equity in the United States,
Speaker 1: and out of that, one point three percent of it
Speaker 1: goes to businesses own or founded, or projects or worked
Speaker 1: on by blocks or women combined. So white men get
Speaker 1: ninety eight point seven percent of all venture capital and
Speaker 1: private equity money. So the challenge is equity. But if
Speaker 1: you can, you can raise the money friends and family
Speaker 1: and so on, and then build your building or buy
Speaker 1: a property and renovate it. And then do what I
Speaker 1: did is I rolled all my money back in. So
Speaker 1: the first project that we did was ten million dollars.
Speaker 1: Didn't start didn't you started with an impartment department of shouse.
Speaker 1: I think that's the question, Like you started from us
Speaker 1: your part? Yeah, but then right, but then after that
Speaker 1: I started consulting an appraisal business, and that's how I
Speaker 1: earned a living and begin to accumulate some money to save.
Speaker 1: And then with that money, I found an operat unity
Speaker 1: to build an office building. But if you have a
Speaker 1: dream and you're willing to do some work, you can
Speaker 1: make money in the real estate business. You know, we
Speaker 1: talk about the the racial no world gap in America.
Speaker 1: A lot you think that actually can be closed in
Speaker 1: this generation. I don't think it can be closed. I
Speaker 1: think we can make some progress, but we won't do
Speaker 1: it the way it is right now. And one of
Speaker 1: your former guests is a man I've known a long
Speaker 1: time and currently president, and I remember it's comment about
Speaker 1: it could make up your mind between him and Trump.
Speaker 1: You're not black, well, I mean again, no permanent friends,
Speaker 1: no permanent enemies, permanent interests. But he would be at
Speaker 1: right now in the Delaware waterfront, on the porch of
Speaker 1: his house if it wasn't for black people. It's time
Speaker 1: to pay up, and I mean pay up in other
Speaker 1: ways by giving us access to economic opportunity. And that's
Speaker 1: when we close the wallscap a place like Boston. According
Speaker 1: to Federal Reserve, the average household net worth of a
Speaker 1: white family in Boston is two hundred and forty seven
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. The average household net worth of a black
Speaker 1: family is eight dollars eight dollars. That isn't insurmountable, whilst
Speaker 1: disparity without affirmative aggressive eight dollars to two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty seven thousand, and so you can't solve that by
Speaker 1: taking baby steps. Frankly, we can't let these liberal democrats
Speaker 1: continue to try to make us comfortable being poor. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to demand aggressive steps economically, not window dressing,
Speaker 1: not hiring a few black people here and there. And
Speaker 1: by the way, the other thing, when black people get
Speaker 1: in a position of power, they got to help each other.
Speaker 1: We cannot get into these positions and sit in them
Speaker 1: and then just kind of keep the status quo so
Speaker 1: then they can say, see, there, we got a black
Speaker 1: person in here, so we're not racist. We're not doing
Speaker 1: anything because we can't find any qualified black people. Well,
Speaker 1: because if we could, the brother over here or the
Speaker 1: sister over here would be doing it, and they're not.
Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons why my company has
Speaker 1: focused on this issue. And I would dare to say
Speaker 1: that I am the most outspoken advocate for equal opportunity
Speaker 1: and fair treatment for black people in business and finance
Speaker 1: and that and also that we got to do it aggressively.
Speaker 1: We cannot just sit back here anymore. What do you
Speaker 1: what does reparations look like? Yeah, I think that what's
Speaker 1: realistic for us is that the entire system of how
Speaker 1: our government does business changes, and it is reflective of
Speaker 1: population demographics. So if you're in a city that it's
Speaker 1: fifty percent black, fifty percent of the government contracts go
Speaker 1: to black businesses. If you're a business like you know,
Speaker 1: Goldman Sacks or whatever, and you are taking institutional capital
Speaker 1: as an investment advisor, then you've got to deploy that
Speaker 1: reflective of the population demographics. So if you're running a
Speaker 1: national business, black people a thirteen percent of the population,
Speaker 1: thirteen percent of the loans have to be made to
Speaker 1: black businesses and black people on the same terms that
Speaker 1: you make them to the white firms. So we could
Speaker 1: do that just a fairness, I mean, we would make
Speaker 1: great progress. But what has happened here is that the
Speaker 1: impediments to our to us having fair opportunity are compounded
Speaker 1: by these obstacles and these injustices. Economically, Oh brother, don
Speaker 1: I can't buy no building with fairness. I need some capital, right,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So as you feel like
Speaker 1: America ows there's something tangible, Yes, yeah, I think America
Speaker 1: owes us something tangible by giving us capital. Look, I
Speaker 1: think there should be some place where there's like a
Speaker 1: pool of capital that goes to black people. And yeah,
Speaker 1: but not loans should be and if you and if
Speaker 1: you execute, you know, and if you execute, then you
Speaker 1: don't pay it back exactly right. But I think we
Speaker 1: also have to say, okay, what about property that has
Speaker 1: to be adjustin the reperate cash reparations were returning a
Speaker 1: property needs to take place? All right, when we come back,
Speaker 1: we have more with Cheryl McKissick, Daniel and Don Peebles.
Speaker 1: So don't move. It's to breakfast Club. Go morning morning,
Speaker 1: everybody charge the guy. We all the Breakfast Club was
Speaker 1: still kicking it with Cheryl McKissick, Daniel and Don Peebles. Charlemagne,
Speaker 1: how difficult is it navigating the construction industry and the
Speaker 1: real estate industry as a black person? It's hard knocks
Speaker 1: a black woman. Yeah, I mean, Don talked about black
Speaker 1: females starting to the most businesses. However, we're still only
Speaker 1: two percent of the businesses in New York City. And
Speaker 1: so how was I able to build a business in
Speaker 1: New York? It was really pushing prime opportunities, not where
Speaker 1: I was a sub consultant, you know, working under the
Speaker 1: umbrella of a large firm. No, I had to be
Speaker 1: the lead person, whether that was a two million dollar
Speaker 1: project that turned into a five million dollar project or
Speaker 1: ten million dollar project. But that was all a fight
Speaker 1: because there are no laws out there for that. You know,
Speaker 1: you have to create relationships and you know, convince people
Speaker 1: to give you this shot. And that's coming from a
Speaker 1: fifth generation company. So I can imagine, oh yeah, two
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty years wow, and we're still having to
Speaker 1: prove who we are and still not getting the access
Speaker 1: that we should get politically. Do you know, do these
Speaker 1: politicians come to you, of course to make donations and stuff,
Speaker 1: And if so, does that give y'all some type of
Speaker 1: power when it comes to them. Yeah, you get y'all
Speaker 1: able to demand things from them. So I've been involved
Speaker 1: in politics my entire careers. Obama's National Finance Committee for
Speaker 1: both of his election, Bill Clinton's as well. What I
Speaker 1: learned over the years is that you can have some
Speaker 1: access to some people, but even there we get discriminated against.
Speaker 1: We're big supporters of many different policy petitians, but they
Speaker 1: will be willing to jump over backwards to help a
Speaker 1: white business person who is you know, at a high level,
Speaker 1: but when it comes to us, they'll decide when they're
Speaker 1: going to treat us fairly and when they're not, and
Speaker 1: that the money's not as impactful. And it's kind of
Speaker 1: a subtlety. And I don't know if I'm explaining it right,
Speaker 1: but what I'm saying is that our money isn't as
Speaker 1: good as the other people's money when it comes to
Speaker 1: many politicians, even if you have the same amount of money,
Speaker 1: even if financially y'all on equal footage, you'll tell us
Speaker 1: there's a wall between policy and making decisions as a
Speaker 1: government leader and your money. And so what I've done,
Speaker 1: and that's so fundraising and contributing money is kind of
Speaker 1: the carrot. I say, Okay, the carrot doesn't work, I'll
Speaker 1: use a stick. So a couple of times that these
Speaker 1: people have crossed me and treated me unfairly, I form
Speaker 1: a political action committee and I run an independent campaign
Speaker 1: against them. And because I figure, if I got some money,
Speaker 1: I need to use it at least to level of
Speaker 1: playing field for what I'm trying to do. And so
Speaker 1: I'm not going to take it on the chin. And
Speaker 1: that's the other thing is that they think that they
Speaker 1: can threw us over and get away with it. So
Speaker 1: I try to send a message no, there's some repercussions
Speaker 1: if you treat us unfairly. You think we do ourselves
Speaker 1: a disservice by always voting Democrat, always being with one
Speaker 1: party against low to one party, Yes, I think. So,
Speaker 1: I think we need to vote what policies are important
Speaker 1: to us and get them to agree to some concrete things.
Speaker 1: So I chaired the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation Board, which
Speaker 1: is the think tank for the fifty some black members
Speaker 1: of Congress and does that legislative weekend in Washington, DC.
Speaker 1: So I chaired that last three years of Obama's administration
Speaker 1: and then going into trump first year, And I told
Speaker 1: the caucus members when Trump came in, I know him
Speaker 1: and he's transactional. Go meet with him with a list
Speaker 1: of things for black people. Because you all weren't elected
Speaker 1: to be Democrats. You were elected to advocate for black people,
Speaker 1: your constituents. So go with a list of what your
Speaker 1: constituents want and tell him you want this, and ask
Speaker 1: him what does he want, and see if there's a
Speaker 1: deal to be made. But you can't put the black
Speaker 1: agenda on hold for a four to eight years because
Speaker 1: you don't like the guy in the office. You got
Speaker 1: to play a game of power. You gotta constantly fight
Speaker 1: because our agenda can't wait. So we should do business
Speaker 1: with whoever we have to to get our program going forward,
Speaker 1: and then we can vote again later. The Democratic Party
Speaker 1: takes us for granted, and they have for a very
Speaker 1: long time. And frankly, we should be on the front
Speaker 1: steps of the White House telling Joe Biden this isn't enough.
Speaker 1: It's great that you appointed a qualified woman to the
Speaker 1: Supreme Court, a black woman, all right, but here's what
Speaker 1: we need over in the Supreme Court. Expand the Supreme
Speaker 1: Court in a forge ye want to if you want
Speaker 1: to really make an impact. But also, he's responsible for
Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety four crimes, and I tell him to
Speaker 1: his face he's responsible for He's clean it up, and
Speaker 1: he has not addressed that yet. And he spoke passionately,
Speaker 1: and he was the floor leader in the Senate for
Speaker 1: Bill Clinton from the nineteen ninety four crime bill that
Speaker 1: led to the mass incarceration of black men and women
Speaker 1: and these mandatory sentences that destroyed lives. So he's got
Speaker 1: to clean that up. And he's got to clean that up.
Speaker 1: Not just what's criminal justice reform, because that's only going
Speaker 1: to deal with what's going forward. But secondly, he's got
Speaker 1: to make right what he's done our community and our
Speaker 1: people since nineteen ninety four, before nineties. Yeah, because you
Speaker 1: know the mandatory minimum sentence in the crack laws. That
Speaker 1: was the eighties eighties. You're right. Yeah. When I when
Speaker 1: I said that to him, I said, um, you know
Speaker 1: they led the massive cause race And he said, no,
Speaker 1: it didn't. It was the mandatory minimum in the eighties.
Speaker 1: I said, when you wrote that too, it was easy
Speaker 1: to do business with? Is it Biden or was it
Speaker 1: Trump to do business with? I think Trump would would
Speaker 1: be easier to do business with because there's no competing
Speaker 1: interest and he's a decisive person. I think that the
Speaker 1: Democratic presidents have tried to make this Rainbow constituency happy.
Speaker 1: So same thing about reparations and minority contracting. This country
Speaker 1: owes two classes of people a great debt. It owes
Speaker 1: Native Americans a great debt, and then it owes black
Speaker 1: people a debt, and it's time to pay that. And
Speaker 1: Biden could do that. Frankly, I was disappointed because I
Speaker 1: thought that President Obama should have done it. But Trump
Speaker 1: is transactional, so you can do business with him today
Speaker 1: and be against him tomorrow. He's going to understand that
Speaker 1: because he's wise that way. So we have to be
Speaker 1: focused on getting business done. And to this point in time,
Speaker 1: I can't think about what the President of the United
Speaker 1: States has done for black people. And he's been in
Speaker 1: office for a year. So how long do we have
Speaker 1: to wait for the man that we single handedly put
Speaker 1: into office? Right? I agree? And our agenda has always last,
Speaker 1: isn't it? Yes? If yeh? Yes, great conversation, Sister Sheryl,
Speaker 1: because peoples, I mean that was that was of course.
Speaker 1: So what's the call to action to change the five
Speaker 1: thousands for that one? But we need everyone to talk
Speaker 1: about Affirmation Tower. We need this to be a movement
Speaker 1: because this is going to change how we position ourselves.
Speaker 1: It's changing a paradigm for black people, not only in
Speaker 1: New York but in our nation. And that's the call
Speaker 1: to action. They need to call the Governor's office of
Speaker 1: New York and say that they support it. They need
Speaker 1: to call their their New York City resident or New
Speaker 1: York State resident. They need to call their elected officials
Speaker 1: and say that they support this project and they support
Speaker 1: what it stands for, which is economic opportunity. For black
Speaker 1: businesses and going forward, we got to hold any anybody
Speaker 1: running for office it wants our support. What are you
Speaker 1: going to do for us economically? That's right? What are
Speaker 1: you going? How are you going to write this scales
Speaker 1: of injustice that we're dealing with, And that's the call
Speaker 1: to action. Economic empowerment for our people will lead us
Speaker 1: to a much better place because we can. What did
Speaker 1: James Brown saying, I don't want nobody to give me
Speaker 1: nothing to open the door. I'll get it myself, right, Well,
Speaker 1: that's what we want to open the doors of opportunity.
Speaker 1: Let us do our thing. We have shown. I want
Speaker 1: both done. I want to open the door. I want
Speaker 1: something to be sitting on the table when I walk in.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and it should be by the way,
Speaker 1: our our ancestors paid for it, and we got nothing
Speaker 1: for it. They got nothing for it but extreme oppression.
Speaker 1: And so this country owes us a death. The White
Speaker 1: House that Biden is sleeping and was built by slaves.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's it. Well, we appreciate you, guys man,
Speaker 1: and please, anytime y'all want to pull up, pull up,
Speaker 1: all right, okay, we will absolutely well, absolute cub good
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Speaker 1: gonna be on the Donkey of the day. They chose
Speaker 1: you's a breakfast club, bitches, Who's donkey of the day
Speaker 1: to day? Well, donkey today was to a hiker in
Speaker 1: Colorado who got lost on a mountain for twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Now I know what you're thinking, Why, oh why with
Speaker 1: Uncle Charla, Brother Lennard give a man who got lost
Speaker 1: for twenty four hours hiking donkey of the day. Well,
Speaker 1: it's tough one. It's a tough one because on one hand,
Speaker 1: I feel him. On the other hand, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't think he wanted to be saved. Let me explain see.
Speaker 1: This man was reported missing after he didn't return from
Speaker 1: an expedition on October eighteenth on Mount Elbert. Mount Elbert
Speaker 1: is the highest peak in the state of Colorado. Now,
Speaker 1: he was lost, clearly, but sometimes folks be lost to us,
Speaker 1: but to them they just outside, all right, this kind
Speaker 1: of feels like one of those situations, even though it's not.
Speaker 1: I know y'all think I sound like Rafiki and the
Speaker 1: Lion King right now, but listening to me, pay attention
Speaker 1: follow this because they will all make sense in one second. Now,
Speaker 1: if people think you're lost, the first thing I would
Speaker 1: assume to do is call your phone, right. That's what
Speaker 1: they tried to do to this hiker. And this is
Speaker 1: where it gets tricky for me, because trust me when
Speaker 1: I tell you, I feel how this hike could be feeling.
Speaker 1: Let's go to KGTV ABC ten for the report. Police.
Speaker 1: We're looking into a story that seems hard to believe.
Speaker 1: It claims a loss hiker ignored calls from a rescue
Speaker 1: cruz because he didn't recognize the phone number, and it's
Speaker 1: actually true. The hiker was reported missing last week after
Speaker 1: he failed to return from a track on Mount Albert
Speaker 1: in Colorado, and the Lake County Search and Rescue team
Speaker 1: says they repeatedly tried calling the hikers cell phone, but
Speaker 1: the man never answered because he didn't recognize the number.
Speaker 1: The hiker did safely return to his place of lodging
Speaker 1: twenty four hours later, with no idea that anyone had
Speaker 1: been looking for him. Raise your hand if you don't
Speaker 1: answer unrecognized phone numbers, okay, if you're driving, blow the horn,
Speaker 1: all right. I just assumed that an unrecognized phone number
Speaker 1: is a bill collector, all right, and you're going to
Speaker 1: a voicemail that I will never check. Now I have
Speaker 1: to ask another question, how lost are you really if
Speaker 1: you don't answer the phone and people are looking for
Speaker 1: you simply because you don't recognize the phone number. I
Speaker 1: feel him, Okay, I don't answer the phone for numbers
Speaker 1: I don't know. In fact, too many numbers I don't know.
Speaker 1: Calling me is one of the main reasons I changed
Speaker 1: my phone number. But here's the thing, I don't know
Speaker 1: if this hiker necessarily deserves done today. Sounds like the
Speaker 1: people who were looking for him deserved donkey today because
Speaker 1: they're trying to save a person that didn't need saving.
Speaker 1: Maybe number one he didn't answer a number he didn't know. Therefore,
Speaker 1: he clearly wasn't scressing. He clearly didn't think he was
Speaker 1: in danger. Okay, number two, did you hear to enter
Speaker 1: the news report? Can he played? Just the end of
Speaker 1: the news report? It's that way to do that. The
Speaker 1: hiker spent the night searching for the trail and bouncing
Speaker 1: between different trails to find what I want. That's that
Speaker 1: wasn't it At the end of it. At the end
Speaker 1: of it, they said, he made his way back to
Speaker 1: his lodging. Right, if this guy was really lost, I
Speaker 1: can't tell. But if he really was lost, round of
Speaker 1: applause for his focus, give this mass some applause, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean if I'm lost trying to figure my way back,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk to anyone on the phone either.
Speaker 1: You ever have your GPS going driving but somebody called
Speaker 1: you and interrupts the GPS, or you're driving and talking
Speaker 1: and you missing what the GPS is telling you because
Speaker 1: this person wants to talk on the phone. What your
Speaker 1: chat about? Okay, I missed me? Exit all right? Asked
Speaker 1: how this man's brain was working in this moment. He
Speaker 1: couldn't be bothered. He was too busy bouncing from trail
Speaker 1: to trail trying to figure things out. Now, let's go
Speaker 1: to this news report from sacB dot com. Here this
Speaker 1: one the hiker spent the night searching for the trail
Speaker 1: and bouncing between different trails to find a trailhead where
Speaker 1: they had parked. Rescuers said, I don't know if he
Speaker 1: was lost. I really don't. I really don't know if
Speaker 1: this man was truly lost. But if he was, like
Speaker 1: the media is reporting, I need to know his reasoning
Speaker 1: for not answering his phone because I need that kind
Speaker 1: of discipline in my life. Can somebody go interview this man,
Speaker 1: Please have a conversation. I need to be able to
Speaker 1: ignore my phone and other distractions under the rest are
Speaker 1: not just like you know this individual was. I was
Speaker 1: always taught desperate people through desperate things, and you know,
Speaker 1: answering unrecognized phone numbers is an active desperation. So clearly
Speaker 1: there was nothing desperate about this man because he didn't
Speaker 1: feel the need to answer his phone while he was
Speaker 1: so called lost in the mountains. Is a prophet, okay,
Speaker 1: a beacon of light named Project pat who once said,
Speaker 1: don't save her, she don't want to be saved. I
Speaker 1: think this applies to this hiker. All right, don't save
Speaker 1: this man. He didn't want to be saved. As stupid
Speaker 1: as we want to call this man. If you gotta
Speaker 1: let a whole be a hole, you gotta let a
Speaker 1: hiker be a hiker. But we can still give him
Speaker 1: the credit he deserves for being I guess what we
Speaker 1: would call stupid. Sometimes people just don't want to be bothered.
Speaker 1: But give this hiker the biggest seat anyway, just in
Speaker 1: case he was really lost. All right, all you gotta
Speaker 1: do is pick up the phone and not say anything.
Speaker 1: Pick up the phone, baby, pick up But then but no,
Speaker 1: that would be if people think you're lost, right and
Speaker 1: they call your phone, and somebody picks up the phone
Speaker 1: and don't say nothing. Now they really gonna be described.
Speaker 1: Now they're gonna really want the law enforcement and everybody.
Speaker 1: You pick up the phone. That's even worse. She's not
Speaker 1: a It was like a strange phone. So a strange
Speaker 1: voice picked up my phone, a strange voice picked up
Speaker 1: his phone. I really think he's in trouble with her.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you would have the whole fairs after
Speaker 1: everybody would be looking for that person. After that collector.
Speaker 1: All right, well thank you for that. Dog get a day,
Speaker 1: this club, good morning, the breakfast club. Like nobody has
Speaker 1: seen what I was doing, you know, But for me,
Speaker 1: it was kind of like a natural reaction to what
Speaker 1: was going on, you know what I'm saying, Circle twenty ten,
Speaker 1: twenty eleven. You know a lot of stuff on the
Speaker 1: radio was like young money dominant. Then they started going
Speaker 1: west coast with it, you know what I'm saying, And um,
Speaker 1: I just felt the need that New York needed something
Speaker 1: that like represented it again. And yeah, now it's just
Speaker 1: kind of part of my DNA radio at that time,
Speaker 1: I know that. Well, you know, I was a kid.
Speaker 1: I hated everything. I hated a little everything. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to have talked to nobody. I wouldn't see nobody.
Speaker 1: I had no type of gauge on really what was
Speaker 1: going on into the magnitude of how it was going.
Speaker 1: Why did it take so long? Why why ten years
Speaker 1: between projects? Oh no, it wasn't to you five years
Speaker 1: ago American, right, but five years is a long time
Speaker 1: too in this business. Why five years? Man? It wasn't
Speaker 1: no specific reason, Like it wasn't like I finished my
Speaker 1: last time. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna take five
Speaker 1: years or nine. It just it just happened that way, man.
Speaker 1: You know, I was experimenting, trying to find a new direction,
Speaker 1: trying to figure out which way I wanted to go.
Speaker 1: In addition, I had my first kid, you know, my daughter,
Speaker 1: she's four years old now, started doing a lot of
Speaker 1: TV and film stuff started taking off. So it was
Speaker 1: just really getting used to a new balance. And then
Speaker 1: the pandemic set me back. Like I had a project,
Speaker 1: but when the pandemic started, I got connected with myself
Speaker 1: in a different way, you know, and it became a
Speaker 1: whole different thing, you know. So it's just it's kind
Speaker 1: of the way it lined up. But I'll tell you this,
Speaker 1: like I ain't never playing on going away for that
Speaker 1: long again. How did you get into acting? For people
Speaker 1: that don't know, I was a theater student in high school.
Speaker 1: I went to Edward Armorro. I had like audition for
Speaker 1: a bunch of different trauma theater programs. Because when I
Speaker 1: was coming up, when I when it was time for
Speaker 1: me to go to high school, like I always was
Speaker 1: into music, but at the time, there was no program
Speaker 1: to go to like work on my rap skills or
Speaker 1: the Rapper show. My next like best thing to me
Speaker 1: was film. They kicked me out after myself more year
Speaker 1: though for what my attendance is just poor. I was
Speaker 1: like one out of three black kids. And the great
Speaker 1: thing about that is I was one out of three
Speaker 1: black kids. It was me and the homie Sadiq who
Speaker 1: played ghost Face, who ten wow, So it was dope.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that, Yeah, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, connecting back with him the whole full circle joint.
Speaker 1: Did you ever think you would lose your rap identity
Speaker 1: as Joey Badass playing back to Day? Um? No, I
Speaker 1: think I was gonna lose my rap identity. But that
Speaker 1: is a good question because I was always reluctant about
Speaker 1: playing roles that were too close to who I am
Speaker 1: in real life. But when I got off of that,
Speaker 1: you know, it's wou tang like that's a big honor.
Speaker 1: And then Rizzi has been one of my mentors in
Speaker 1: this game for a long time, so I definitely wanted
Speaker 1: to come through for him, like I felt he's come
Speaker 1: through for me a lot of the time. But you know,
Speaker 1: then I got power and then I got on viv
Speaker 1: Or foul Tan. Tell me about the jay Z connection
Speaker 1: because you referenced that a couple of times on the
Speaker 1: album will make you feel and I might be popt it,
Speaker 1: but you say peepe game like Jay, That's that's why
Speaker 1: he didn't sign me. That's why I didn't. He didn't
Speaker 1: sign us. Get the Game at Bay. Like the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, Jay's like an idol. I read his book
Speaker 1: The Coded, and that line was inspired by piecing the
Speaker 1: coda when he said he met with Russell Simmons for
Speaker 1: the first time, and he details experience as him like
Speaker 1: remembering sitting at that table and looking at them and
Speaker 1: thinking to himself like damn, like I don't want to
Speaker 1: be signing these. I want to beat these. Be a
Speaker 1: first conversation with Jay, you first sit down with him. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I was seventeen years old. I was in Denvil. He
Speaker 1: flew me back out to New York to meet with him,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was a funny little so I
Speaker 1: walked in and I'm like, yes, like whatever it is.
Speaker 1: It was a dope experience, man, because at seventeen years old,
Speaker 1: I felt so limitless. It was probably like when I
Speaker 1: was fifteen or sixteen, Like I visualized in my mind
Speaker 1: like I want to be signed at jay Z. So
Speaker 1: when I was growing up in that rock Nation building,
Speaker 1: like a year or two later, I'm like, damn, I
Speaker 1: could do anything. I'm already in alignment with my idol.
Speaker 1: Anything is possible. Did he tell you why he didn't
Speaker 1: sign y'all? It's funny like I always see him now
Speaker 1: and I'll be wanting to have that conversation, but the time,
Speaker 1: I feel like the time never permits, like where we act,
Speaker 1: But I'd be wanting to ask him that I was
Speaker 1: so young at the time, and to me, there was
Speaker 1: no reason to not sign at jay Z, but you know,
Speaker 1: there was other factors involved and like that. So I'm
Speaker 1: not really sure what exactly happened, because based off the album,
Speaker 1: it seems like y'all used to be up there a lot,
Speaker 1: like skateboarding in front of the building. Well, yeah, they
Speaker 1: showed us a lot of love. And know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: to this day, you know, he looks out for me,
Speaker 1: shows me a lot of love. So it's just always
Speaker 1: been um more like three degrees of separation. And I
Speaker 1: like what you said about this being a reintroduction to
Speaker 1: Joy Badass, because you do tell so much about yourself.
Speaker 1: You talk about your cousin Richie rich writing your writing
Speaker 1: your first rap? Yeah, what kind of battery did that?
Speaker 1: Putting your back? He just like really gave me structure,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like he taught me how
Speaker 1: to count balls and all like. And then you know,
Speaker 1: I had other older cousins who's a rapping like that.
Speaker 1: For a long time, it was a running joke because
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, I used to always tell them, yo, y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all need to bring me to the studio and then
Speaker 1: blew up and I was like, oh, yeah, you remember
Speaker 1: writing your first rap? Nah? Nah, But it must have
Speaker 1: been like first grade because that's when I was introduced
Speaker 1: to poetry and I identified it as like I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is that biggie doing. That's like what my brain said,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And from there I got
Speaker 1: into poetry. But I will always do like rap style poems.
Speaker 1: But I remember the first time I spent that verse
Speaker 1: that my cousin wrote for me for my mom's I
Speaker 1: was like nine years old and something like my name
Speaker 1: is little Jay and I got the nine you messed
Speaker 1: with me and I blow off your mind. They hating cousins.
Speaker 1: I'll be on my ground and I always shine while
Speaker 1: you're acting like yourself clocks for I put a pipe
Speaker 1: bomb in your mailbox something like that, Right, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Na. She even staff for me. She
Speaker 1: was like, do you know what a nine is? I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm to me, I'm like, I'm nine, so
Speaker 1: it just sounds nine years old for me. I'm like, nah.
Speaker 1: She was like, it's a gun. First of all. I
Speaker 1: was like word. And then she gave me the realist advice.
Speaker 1: She was like, Yo, look, if you want to do this,
Speaker 1: you could do that, but you just gotta be true
Speaker 1: to yourself. And from there I just kind of took
Speaker 1: that in rand with about the pipe mall nah. I
Speaker 1: think she kind of figured out that it wasn't my words,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Somebody else was involved in that.
Speaker 1: All right. We got more with Joey Badass when we
Speaker 1: come back, don't Move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good Morning,
Speaker 1: Everybody's DJ Envy Charlemagne the guy we are to Breakfast
Speaker 1: Club was still kicking it with Joey Badass. Charlemagne. No,
Speaker 1: I love written in the stars too. You mentioned your
Speaker 1: daughter earlier you said your daughter was your wake up call.
Speaker 1: What did that wake up call look like? Do you? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You know, I felt so obligated in earlier years in
Speaker 1: my career to take kid people to the point where
Speaker 1: a lot of the times it burned me out, feeling
Speaker 1: like guilt survive is guilt and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: But you know, when my baby girl came, it was like, oh, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is really the only person I'm responsible for, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And now that she's his different
Speaker 1: Like if you can't respect that, Dan, you know, we
Speaker 1: can't even be cool no more. How's your life change?
Speaker 1: How do you move differently now that you have a girl? Well? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, definitely more focused, Definitely more intention and everything
Speaker 1: that I do, especially when it comes to you know, spending,
Speaker 1: and you know, I say, it made me more patient,
Speaker 1: It made me more gentle, It made me more willing
Speaker 1: to learn and listen. How did you change your overall
Speaker 1: perspective of women? Definitely, Like you know, from time to
Speaker 1: time I would have the thought like I wouldn't with
Speaker 1: my daughter to you know what I'm saying, being in
Speaker 1: a situation like that, So it definitely kind of gives
Speaker 1: you a heightened state of awareness when it comes to
Speaker 1: that interaction. But I mean, I've always been a super
Speaker 1: respectful man anyway, but like you know, with my baby
Speaker 1: girl in my life, it definitely kind of shased my
Speaker 1: mind in a way, like, let me try to be
Speaker 1: more like the version of the man that I would
Speaker 1: want my baby girl to grow up. Man, you know,
Speaker 1: be with deal with Do you ever look at it
Speaker 1: like I was this way as a man and now
Speaker 1: I gotta change because I don't want my daughter to
Speaker 1: like that as a man. Yes and no, because you know,
Speaker 1: life is about growth. You know, nobody's gonna come straight
Speaker 1: off with a tree like Bompart like, nah, you got experience,
Speaker 1: and you know I want I don't want none of
Speaker 1: that to be hidden from my child, Like I don't
Speaker 1: want her to ever view life as a thing where
Speaker 1: you could skip steps and still get by. You know,
Speaker 1: we all got we all got all types of childhood
Speaker 1: traumas that we couldn't even run from if we tried to.
Speaker 1: These are the things that affect us saying. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, ultimately shape who we are, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But as long as you know you
Speaker 1: got that growth mindset or as long as whoever she's
Speaker 1: with got that growth mindset, then I got some patience,
Speaker 1: you know, I got some sympathy now in the baddest.
Speaker 1: First of all, you and you and Diddy seem like
Speaker 1: y'all have a strong relationship. Absolutely. Now did he get
Speaker 1: so cool and so close? Man? I met Diddy twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen coming out to Rihanna met Gala after party and
Speaker 1: one no, he was walking out. I was walking in
Speaker 1: and he was just like, Yo, King, I'm been trying
Speaker 1: to connect with you for years, Like I was trying
Speaker 1: to sign you back in the day, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is all news to me, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: It's first time. I mean, you know, I'm like, wow, work.
Speaker 1: And in that same week I had rolled it out
Speaker 1: in Miami and then I ran into him again, and
Speaker 1: if from there it was just like we would just
Speaker 1: roll dogs, you know what I'm saying, Like he would
Speaker 1: be going some Yoto, I'm being in New York, b
Speaker 1: wonna pull up and we just kind of developed that
Speaker 1: relationship like that, and it's like I'm CP two that
Speaker 1: is strangers too, Yeah, exactly because of me, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. I got him on that project. I
Speaker 1: got him involved, I made a phone call. I'm super
Speaker 1: grateful for that relationship because me, I'm a sponge. So
Speaker 1: it's like, you bring me around at the right wounds
Speaker 1: and tables, like I ain't taking that for granted. I'm connecting,
Speaker 1: I'm network and I'm you know what I'm saying, I'm
Speaker 1: using the opportunity fruitfully, you know what I mean, as
Speaker 1: it should be. So the fact that he could identify
Speaker 1: that in me, I'm very appreciative of that. You know,
Speaker 1: he did the intro and the outro. On the oultro,
Speaker 1: he said something to the effect of, we got to
Speaker 1: bring that New York feeling back. Are those conversations that
Speaker 1: y'all have? And do you think that you can actually
Speaker 1: bring you back? If you live in someplace like Miami
Speaker 1: or LA, don't you gotta be here? Yeah? I think
Speaker 1: you gotta be here for show because you gotta connect
Speaker 1: with the pulse of the city. You know. Um, what
Speaker 1: was the question? The question was, do you all have
Speaker 1: those conversations about bringing the feeling back? Oh? Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: me and Puff we've spoken about that over the years, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll play him some songs. He's like yeah,
Speaker 1: like this is the vible, this ain't the vibe, or
Speaker 1: you should do this, you should go more here, you know,
Speaker 1: but that's usually the focus of the conversation, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. We're always trying to stay in that essence.
Speaker 1: He still got to end. Fifty said, did he don't
Speaker 1: got no air? No more? Fifty said, did he ain't
Speaker 1: got no that's a that's a lot puff. I feel
Speaker 1: like he always gonna have an ear. Now you can
Speaker 1: tell that you've really been doing the work on yourself
Speaker 1: mentally too, you know what I mean, Like you go
Speaker 1: to therapy, I do, Okay, you'll go to therapy. Um,
Speaker 1: I started going to therapy back at twenty twenty. You know.
Speaker 1: As unfortunate as that pandemic was for a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I definitely don't want
Speaker 1: to be in sensitive when I say this, but for me,
Speaker 1: I needed that. I didn't know stillness in my adult life.
Speaker 1: Like I hit the ground running that seventeen years old,
Speaker 1: I was still a kid. I didn't realize for about
Speaker 1: five six years, I didn't stop, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So when I finally got that space in that time,
Speaker 1: it's like I just went real deep inside, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and I realized things that I needed.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I need that repet you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I need to be held accountable
Speaker 1: for my shortcomings. I need those to be pointed out
Speaker 1: to me because I'm what you call a self improvement junk,
Speaker 1: Like I'm committed and devoted to being a better version
Speaker 1: of myself every time I show up. You could see
Speaker 1: the evolution in all the breakfast club interviews. I think
Speaker 1: this is our third one. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I pride myself on that, you know. So therapy
Speaker 1: was definitely an outlet that I saw to bring me
Speaker 1: closer to a higher self awareness and just state of being.
Speaker 1: What how did you decide to do it? That decision? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I've always been open minded, and I started
Speaker 1: to resonate with the idea that black people therapy being
Speaker 1: so tabooed to us. What it was is I was
Speaker 1: introduced to the concept of emotional intelligence and that kind
Speaker 1: of blew my mind. That opened so many doors for
Speaker 1: me because I'm like, wow, like we really wasn't taught
Speaker 1: this how important it is to identify your own emotions
Speaker 1: in relation to the people around you. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, we might just wake up in a
Speaker 1: bad mood and you wearing that moved and now your
Speaker 1: household is feeling that move, and you don't even realize
Speaker 1: you just passed that mood on to your son. Now
Speaker 1: your son is in school with that move, and he
Speaker 1: passing that on to you. Know what I'm saying, Like energy,
Speaker 1: Energy is so contagious, And once I kind of like
Speaker 1: realized that, it started to open little pathways in my brain,
Speaker 1: like them even identifying with frustration as an emotion. If
Speaker 1: you tell a black man, yo, you're being emotional, that's
Speaker 1: like a fa. But people don't realize that. Yo. If
Speaker 1: you're angry, if we're having a conversation, you're just screaming
Speaker 1: because you're mad. You're in your emotion. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. People get emotionally hijacked every day, be every
Speaker 1: day like blinded by emotion, blinded by rage. So I
Speaker 1: just kind of started on that path for understanding myself more.
Speaker 1: Because I grew up I had like anger issues and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. It was hard to me to identify
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I was feeling did you
Speaker 1: figure out where that anger came from? None that I
Speaker 1: think about it, looking in the high sight, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of it came from when my parents split,
Speaker 1: me not knowing how to process that and then manifesting
Speaker 1: something else, like me trying to find a reason for elsewhere,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I can't that same realization
Speaker 1: in therapy, Like I didn't realize how much my parents
Speaker 1: divorcing had impacted me, and how angry I was at
Speaker 1: my pops for that word up at the do something
Speaker 1: of you, especially as a black man, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because now you got that separation from your
Speaker 1: father and it's like you need your father, or as
Speaker 1: a black man, especially in this world, you had that
Speaker 1: conversation with your pops. Because you know, one of the
Speaker 1: best things that helped me was having a conversation with
Speaker 1: my pops and realizing that he was going to therapy
Speaker 1: two or three times a week. Back in the day
Speaker 1: he tried to kill himself. Back in the day he
Speaker 1: was on tend to twelve different medications. It made me
Speaker 1: give him more grace because I realized, damn, he was
Speaker 1: somebody before he was my parents, right, and you know,
Speaker 1: he was just doing the best he could, but what
Speaker 1: he had, Yeah, you know, I have to. I have
Speaker 1: great conversations for my dad all of the time, and
Speaker 1: it's like I have my own interpretations of it because
Speaker 1: my understanding and his understanding is definitely different, and it's
Speaker 1: like a generational difference. And I came to kind of
Speaker 1: growing accept that because what fulfills me, what I appreciate,
Speaker 1: what I'm grateful for is that I could hear my
Speaker 1: old man's wisdom, you know what I mean. And it's
Speaker 1: like it's up to me to interpret that however I
Speaker 1: see fit. But just being able to hear that, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I might feel a little bit more spiritually
Speaker 1: advanced than my dad, but I could never be more experienced,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And that alone just make
Speaker 1: me so grateful for any time we connect, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because I feel like it's a meeting
Speaker 1: of the minds and you can learn from anybody. All Right,
Speaker 1: we got more with Joey Badass when we come back.
Speaker 1: Don't move. It's the Breakfast Club. Good morning, a breakfast
Speaker 1: Club morning. Everybody is DJ envied Charlemagne, the guy we
Speaker 1: are to Breakfast Club. Were still kicking it with Joey
Speaker 1: Badass Charlemagne. Do you really meditate every day? You say
Speaker 1: that on the album, So you meditate everything? Na, it's
Speaker 1: hard to meditate every day, like you know, that's more
Speaker 1: of like a manifestation. I would like to meditate every
Speaker 1: day at a point, I was, you know, in the
Speaker 1: Pandemic for show. But one thing I try to do
Speaker 1: is pray every day because I feel like it's a
Speaker 1: form of you know, meditation or just a form of
Speaker 1: being able to like program you're thinking in the right way.
Speaker 1: What did you see about it? Because I always say,
Speaker 1: you know, the pandemic, like you said earlier, made all
Speaker 1: of us be still for the first time. A lot
Speaker 1: of us had to like really be still for the
Speaker 1: first time and deal with ourselves. Couldn't run from our
Speaker 1: traumas or nothing. What did you see that I made
Speaker 1: you be like, oh no, I gotta go do some
Speaker 1: work on myself. I saw how much I was settling
Speaker 1: for the short end of the stick. Like you know,
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of the like the first half
Speaker 1: of my career really focused and obliged to taking care
Speaker 1: of other people, and in that I put a lot
Speaker 1: of people before myself. So when the pandemic, it kind
Speaker 1: of put things in perspective to me. It's like, damn,
Speaker 1: I got I did this one for that one, that
Speaker 1: one for this one, But what the do I have
Speaker 1: to show for myself? And then that was a whole
Speaker 1: reset because then I came out the pandemic selfish, but
Speaker 1: in the best way possible, because I've never been that person.
Speaker 1: It is evident too, like I'm glad you noticed that.
Speaker 1: You said, Yo, you look healthy, Like this is what
Speaker 1: I look like when I'm focused on myself. Did the
Speaker 1: pandemic finally give you the opportunity to grieve? Steve's the
Speaker 1: right way? It definitely gave me opportunities. But I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know this this this grieving, is it a
Speaker 1: complete process? Does it get I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: a complete process. But I was gonna say when I
Speaker 1: listened to Survivor's Guild, I feel like you have finally
Speaker 1: started processing. Yes, you know his death. This is the
Speaker 1: first year where I definitely feel a little bit of peace,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's ten years later, but
Speaker 1: just with Stesus, I'm still majorly grieving my cousin junior.
Speaker 1: Then how are you processing it, like, you know, did
Speaker 1: it make you look at Because I had a friend
Speaker 1: committed suicide in twenty twenty, and when she did that,
Speaker 1: it made me look at suicide differently. It definitely brought
Speaker 1: me to a very dark place. And you know me,
Speaker 1: I'm very intuitive, So something inside me told me because
Speaker 1: I remember coming from the funeral for me and c
Speaker 1: J was on the way back to the crib and
Speaker 1: I remember telling him like, yo, bro, we gotta be
Speaker 1: strong for everybody else because it's easy to fall right now.
Speaker 1: And I got pulled into that. Even after saying it,
Speaker 1: even after having that a witness and that understanding that
Speaker 1: I couldn't go there, I still got sucked into that,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It brought me out of
Speaker 1: very low, low place. I was depressed, like I felt
Speaker 1: so many ways. I'm like, damn, like seventeen years old,
Speaker 1: Like I know so many people who were so much
Speaker 1: older than me, and they've never lost somebody this close
Speaker 1: to them, you know what I mean. It was just
Speaker 1: it was a lot of unsettling emotions and feelings and
Speaker 1: at the same time, dealing with fame for the first time,
Speaker 1: dealing with you know what I'm saying, Like the ills
Speaker 1: of that it was bucked. That's a natural though. I'm
Speaker 1: sure your therapists told you that you gotta light something
Speaker 1: to feel your feels, like, yeah, and that's what I
Speaker 1: realized too. Like, first of all, I'm grateful for the
Speaker 1: fact that I was able to put a lot of
Speaker 1: my trauma off because I was so busy, because I
Speaker 1: don't know what I would have did with that idle time,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like I was hotly depressed,
Speaker 1: Like I felt suicidal all of that, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like I was very convinced that I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna live past twenty five. Like at seventeen eighteen, I
Speaker 1: was very convinced to that. I'm like, it's no way,
Speaker 1: Like I didn't see life after twenty five. Even when
Speaker 1: I turned twenty five, I was a mind for me
Speaker 1: because I'm like, damn, I did not visualize life this far. Wow.
Speaker 1: And then right there I drew up a twenty year plan.
Speaker 1: Did you look at suicide differently because a lot of people,
Speaker 1: especially in New York it's probably all of the world,
Speaker 1: but especially in New York. When growing up as a kid,
Speaker 1: when you think of suicide, the first thing that people
Speaker 1: think is your soft for your week. But then when
Speaker 1: you start having those emotions in that feeling, you realize
Speaker 1: its far from that. First of all, it's weird to
Speaker 1: say this, but like I think suicide is an incredibly
Speaker 1: brave thing. You have to have a lot of audacity
Speaker 1: to do that to yourself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: And then it's like to withstand that pain or whichever way,
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Speaker 1: It's topic time called eight hundred five eight five one five.
Speaker 1: Want to join it to the discussion with the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Talk about it, everybody, DJ Envy, Charlomagne, the guy. We
Speaker 1: are the breakfast Club. Now if you just joined us,
Speaker 1: we're talking about Kevin Gates and open up the phone
Speaker 1: lines eight hundred and five A five one oh five
Speaker 1: one now. Kevin Gates post posted this on Twitter yesterday.
Speaker 1: If a woman comes in the bathroom, it talks to
Speaker 1: me while I'm taking an ish. I find that very romantic.
Speaker 1: Now do you like when your wife comes in the bathroom?
Speaker 1: It has a conversation with you. Absolutely not. That's not
Speaker 1: something that we do. I hate poop, first of all,
Speaker 1: don't like it. I know everyone does it, but it's
Speaker 1: literally one of my least favorite things to do. I
Speaker 1: don't look at it when it's in the toilet. I
Speaker 1: know some people like to look at it and make
Speaker 1: sure it's like, you know, in the shape of the
Speaker 1: Superman logo, like I don't do. Yeah, I don't do
Speaker 1: none of that, you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 1: when you are moving vows, it's a sacred experience and
Speaker 1: you should expel ways by yourself. I don't want my
Speaker 1: wife in the bathroom with me while I'm pooping. There's
Speaker 1: nothing cute about that. It's nothing sexy about that. I
Speaker 1: mean to me, Kevin Gates, that sends to him to
Speaker 1: each his own, and to me, No, yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: the same. I don't. I don't see nothing sexy with
Speaker 1: I don't want to have a conversation. Although I set
Speaker 1: up shot when I go to the back from though,
Speaker 1: like I said, like, I'm not in the bathroom for
Speaker 1: like thirty seconds, I'm magazine. Nah, not me, Nah, I
Speaker 1: got my phone. No, I'm too old. Something that I
Speaker 1: might be paying my bills. What I'm doing, like, I
Speaker 1: really take my time, like I sometimes I'm on that
Speaker 1: so a lot on my feet, fall to sleep. That
Speaker 1: happens to me all the time. And I don't even
Speaker 1: gotta be on there long. That's why I don't do
Speaker 1: it any more. I meant to get I like them
Speaker 1: step stools. My sister Alicia, and they told me a
Speaker 1: long time ago to get one of them stools. Like
Speaker 1: it's like a squatty party there you go when you
Speaker 1: put your legs up while you're pooping, so you put
Speaker 1: your legs up wi you pool. That's too that's just
Speaker 1: too much. But I will tell you that when I
Speaker 1: got a calonic, I did that. It was amazing. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Did you like what the calonic part?
Speaker 1: I like the whole process. I mean it's a little uncomfortable,
Speaker 1: but I'm talking about like when the after year the
Speaker 1: calonic is done, you gotta go sit on the toilet
Speaker 1: and the calonic place and she had a squatty party
Speaker 1: in there, and I'm not gonna lie, man. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was the calinic of the squatty party,
Speaker 1: but it dumped like you dump dump dump, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. If it was, it felt good and
Speaker 1: my legs weren't sleepy when I got up. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you find a good but yeah, answer your question. No,
Speaker 1: I don't want my woman in the bathroom with you
Speaker 1: while I'm taking the pool. And I don't want to
Speaker 1: be in there with her what she's taking? Collo? Who's this? Hey?
Speaker 1: This is representing the ball? Yeah, what's up? Bro? We're
Speaker 1: talking about, uh, you know, pooping in front of your partner.
Speaker 1: All right, so check this out. Think about it. Normally,
Speaker 1: how many people have you pooped in front of what?
Speaker 1: I've not even very few, nobody besides my wife. And
Speaker 1: this is when when it has to happen. But I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever pooped in front of my wife.
Speaker 1: My mama went out of the baby right with athlete.
Speaker 1: So the highest level of intimately, it's pooping in front
Speaker 1: of the partner. No, it's not no more intimate than that.
Speaker 1: That is not true like romantic, that's just simply not true. Romantic.
Speaker 1: And only my wife only comes in the bathroom. She
Speaker 1: has so like it might like she might need something
Speaker 1: out the bathroom, and when she comes in there, she's
Speaker 1: coming there like full gas mask on like ah, and
Speaker 1: by your logic, you might as well walk around with
Speaker 1: a dipe on and let your wife change you and
Speaker 1: wipe you and all kinds of stuff that to meet too. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: have a blessed day, sir, Have a blessed don't king shaming,
Speaker 1: Have a blessing. Don't kink shaming. Hello, who's this and
Speaker 1: what's going on? This is? This is lit? I'm going
Speaker 1: to radio. It's lit. It's lit. You're poop in front
Speaker 1: of your partner? Oh bro, I'm sorry if you're poop
Speaker 1: in front of your partner. Um, yeah, I do. Definitely
Speaker 1: you got you because that lets you know that that's
Speaker 1: a you got a real one. That means definitely down
Speaker 1: for the boy. Y'all got some y'all got some weird
Speaker 1: ways to make sure that your woman is a real No,
Speaker 1: because you know you, I mean because you have to,
Speaker 1: because that's something natural of people be like ill, Like
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like when you first start
Speaker 1: dating somebody like you, you know how many fought you
Speaker 1: holding that's not healthy. You gotta let it out so
Speaker 1: somebody that you could feel comfortable with that let you you.
Speaker 1: You couldst of all and all that we have conversations.
Speaker 1: First of all, I don't fight in my clothes. That's
Speaker 1: number one. Number two, why would you want to fart
Speaker 1: around anybody? That's just disrespectful. Like it's just like nobody
Speaker 1: just sits around and farts. You ain't never just been
Speaker 1: in the casual conversation with a person and they just
Speaker 1: maybe when you was a kid, but when you're an adult,
Speaker 1: you don't do stuff like that. So why would you
Speaker 1: do that around your wife? So this is what I
Speaker 1: do when if I'm in public and I gotta fart,
Speaker 1: I just I just stop away. I just say, excuse me,
Speaker 1: I'll stepped to the side, fart and let it air out,
Speaker 1: wait about a couple of seconds, because you don't want
Speaker 1: it to linger in them to respect, that's respect, that's respect.
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't you give you a woman that same respect?
Speaker 1: Why would you fart in front of her just because
Speaker 1: you think you can. That's just disrespectful for you. While
Speaker 1: we've been together phone, while I'm saying you fart, you
Speaker 1: gotta let you gotta go, you gotta go that it's
Speaker 1: a family member. At this point, If y'all I'm saying no,
Speaker 1: they'll show you far in front of your wife. Not
Speaker 1: on purpose. Yeah, but you gotta let it go if
Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's it's a chemical imbalance when
Speaker 1: you hold that. I mean, I don't far in front
Speaker 1: of me. I don't fight my clone. Yeah, I will fall.
Speaker 1: I would pass gas from my wife and my kids
Speaker 1: and my family, not me. I ain't issued in front
Speaker 1: of her. I'm not gonna. Hey, babe, let's add this
Speaker 1: conversation in the bathroom. I'm pooping. I'm not gonna do that.
Speaker 1: Wait real quick, I just want to say this. I
Speaker 1: want to keep you on too long. You know, I've
Speaker 1: been calling the the radio since I was a kid.
Speaker 1: This is my first time I ever get into it.
Speaker 1: That's wild. This is gonna be a good day today.
Speaker 1: Help me on the Gramm, Charlotte, and I'm every following
Speaker 1: me on the Graham. All right, all right, I won't
Speaker 1: say the beauty of having young kids that I you know,
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta. I got a six year old
Speaker 1: and a tune to be three year old. Like, if
Speaker 1: you do accidentally fart, you can always blame it on them.
Speaker 1: I do that all the time. Hello, this, Hey, what's up?
Speaker 1: Just a big loop from Myrtle Beach. Hey, what's up, brother,
Speaker 1: Myrtle Beach talking about man partner? Huh, I got the
Speaker 1: sick man. I thought about this and I got to say, yeah,
Speaker 1: I did. Finally the first time it happened, I thought
Speaker 1: she was the one because back in high school I
Speaker 1: was at can't I couldn't poop in front of everybody,
Speaker 1: so I had to go to the bull Tech Builders.
Speaker 1: So I felt like if I felt that comfortable around her,
Speaker 1: she was the one. Why would you have to poop
Speaker 1: in front of everybody? Sir? You know when you go,
Speaker 1: you know, kids during hot school the man, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you got trauma time. I'm when, oh, you go to
Speaker 1: the regular bathroom and if you're poop in high school,
Speaker 1: everybody comes to open the door. Nothing, dude, do whatever
Speaker 1: you know. I can honestly say, and this is not
Speaker 1: a lie. I've never pooped in high school. I never
Speaker 1: pooped in the bathroom in high school. You held it
Speaker 1: till you came home. I just never had to in school.
Speaker 1: I don't know why my bows got a lot more
Speaker 1: regular as I got older in school. I never, I never,
Speaker 1: I never pooped in high school. If you have a
Speaker 1: strong stomach, because that pez sa me lott surprise had
Speaker 1: me going, man after the third period. But wait when
Speaker 1: you come out and you came out of ninety four, Dan,
Speaker 1: that's I came out of ninety or ninety eight. But
Speaker 1: I supposed to be ninety six, so damn yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't remember pooping in high school. I also just want
Speaker 1: to say, man, I love the positivity your brothers keep
Speaker 1: it going. I appreciate it, and it keeps me going
Speaker 1: every day. Man, thank you king. All right, what's the
Speaker 1: all of the story. More of the story is to
Speaker 1: each his own. You know what I'm saying. I'm just
Speaker 1: telling you what I don't do. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Kevin Gates, that's what works with him and his queen.
Speaker 1: You know, me and my queen roll a different way.
Speaker 1: That's all. But once again, I don't like poop. I
Speaker 1: don't even like to be in the bathroom with myself
Speaker 1: when I poop. Breakfast Club, then barning everybody is DJ
Speaker 1: Envy Angela Yee, Charlemagne, the guy we are the breakfast club.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you got a positive note. Now the
Speaker 1: positive note is simply this after getting what you manifested,
Speaker 1: because this is very important Everybody want to have their
Speaker 1: vision boards and manifest things. And you know a lot
Speaker 1: of us get those things that we manifest, but after
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Speaker 1: and wisdom to multiply it. Have a blessed day. Breakfast
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