Speaker 1: I have to thank you guys again. I know I've
Speaker 1: already thanked you in this person, but I'm not going
Speaker 1: to thank you publicly for tirelessly showing up every semester
Speaker 1: to participate in UM a program that I do called
Speaker 1: Young Storytellers. UM. You guys are so gracious with your time,
Speaker 1: you come out and you act in it. It really
Speaker 1: is a blast. Yeah. Yeah, you guys seem like you
Speaker 1: have a lot of fun when you do it, so
Speaker 1: I don't feel like I'm asking too much, but I
Speaker 1: it's a it's a long haul from your side of
Speaker 1: town to my side of town, so I really appreciate
Speaker 1: you guys are always always there for me. Tell one
Speaker 1: what it is. It's so fun. Yeah, it's really it's
Speaker 1: a blast. It's Young Storytellers. Is this incredible organism asition
Speaker 1: that started in l A. I want to say fifteen
Speaker 1: years ago, maybe more UM and it's it's it's moved
Speaker 1: into other cities and stuff, but it's primarily based in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and and we bring in screenwriters and actors
Speaker 1: and editors just general movie people who know how to
Speaker 1: write or know how screenplays work. And we go to
Speaker 1: underserved schools in Los Angeles and UM work with fifth
Speaker 1: graders for a semester, and every fifth grader gets assigned
Speaker 1: to their own mentor writer, UM teacher mentor person and
Speaker 1: UM they we teach these kids. We do a bunch
Speaker 1: of group exercises and then UM they get one on
Speaker 1: one time with their own mentor, and their mentor transcribes
Speaker 1: whatever they want to write. They get to write a
Speaker 1: five page movie script about anything. UM. And you know,
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of times we encourage them to
Speaker 1: express themselves, and we run them through exercises about their
Speaker 1: communities and where they're from, or you know, we encourage
Speaker 1: them just write about space exploration and weird aliens that
Speaker 1: they want to talk about our z vampires did we
Speaker 1: did the vampire was so fun. So we just encourage
Speaker 1: them to express themselves. And then we we just give
Speaker 1: them the space and and the the mentors have their
Speaker 1: own you know, they bring their computer with final draft
Speaker 1: right and program on and they write out the screenplay
Speaker 1: like literally, the kids will be like, now this person
Speaker 1: says this, and they type exactly what the kid wants
Speaker 1: and they work with them. And then so at the
Speaker 1: end of ten weeks or eight weeks, actually we have
Speaker 1: finished screenplays, like five page screenplays, and we do what's
Speaker 1: called the big show. We bring in actors, ten professional
Speaker 1: actors and then yeah, and then you know, you guys
Speaker 1: are the best because they have a lot of them.
Speaker 1: I mean actually, now, boy, the world may have finally
Speaker 1: been aged out, but they guys. But yeah, we try
Speaker 1: and get you know, if I if I know anybody
Speaker 1: from a show that they might know. You know, like
Speaker 1: my friend Alison Munn was on Ricky, Dicky, Nicki and
Speaker 1: Don so I wrote her on and they all were
Speaker 1: like immediately cast her and everything. But anyway, so the
Speaker 1: actors come and we have ten actors and they um,
Speaker 1: they perform. I ask you guys, as actors to audition
Speaker 1: for the kids, which is my favorite part in but
Speaker 1: your least favorite, oh mana after the whole time, like
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna getting first. Yeah, we have the incredible
Speaker 1: Mark Gagley already go first. And he's just a genius
Speaker 1: of improv and performance and he's he's been with you.
Speaker 1: But he wrote a poem that that that introduced different
Speaker 1: acting skills that he has, Like here, I can be
Speaker 1: a monkey and he just like goes into full monkey
Speaker 1: performance for like five minutes. It was insane. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: Mark Gagley already sort of set the bar high. But
Speaker 1: basically we just asked the actors to come up and
Speaker 1: say like, you know, here's who I am, here's my name,
Speaker 1: and here's the types of roles I like to play
Speaker 1: and voices I can do, and characters. And then the
Speaker 1: kids get to look at their script and if they
Speaker 1: have like, you know, six characters in the script, they
Speaker 1: decide which actors play which parts and um, and it's hysterical,
Speaker 1: it's so fun. And then you guys basically just do
Speaker 1: a cold reading. You get maybe five ten minutes with
Speaker 1: the script to look it over and be like what
Speaker 1: and then it becomes this mad cap performance of the
Speaker 1: ten scripts. Um, we bring in the whole school, so
Speaker 1: we have like an hour long with just the kids
Speaker 1: and the actors hanging out. And then yeah, the the
Speaker 1: whole school comes, their parents come, and it becomes this
Speaker 1: you know, incredible way to empower their they're writing, because
Speaker 1: you know, they come up and get everybody's autograph afterwards,
Speaker 1: they're they're so they're so um. It's so empowering to
Speaker 1: see actors perform what they wrote. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: you guys kind of have to say whatever they put
Speaker 1: on the page. And you know, for me, it's just
Speaker 1: so important. I you know, I wrote my first play
Speaker 1: when I was in third grade, and I was just
Speaker 1: lucky enough to have a teacher who was like, writer,
Speaker 1: let's have the whole let's put this on. And we did,
Speaker 1: like we made costumes and everybody in my class got
Speaker 1: cast and we put it on for the school and
Speaker 1: it changed my life. You know. It was what was
Speaker 1: it called a fish story? So a farmer and his
Speaker 1: daughter are fishing and um, they catch a fish and
Speaker 1: it's the biggest fish they've ever caught. Um, it's human size.
Speaker 1: And they decided to bring this fish to the king
Speaker 1: to show off, like, look, we've caught this amazingly giant fish.
Speaker 1: And the king is incredibly mean to them and kicks
Speaker 1: them out and they don't know why, and there's the
Speaker 1: king's acting weird and they're like, oh, it's not the
Speaker 1: normal king. I forget exactly the plot point, but basically
Speaker 1: they know something's up at the kingdom and they get
Speaker 1: kicked out of the castle and while they're going back
Speaker 1: home with the fish, the fish starts talking to them,
Speaker 1: and the fish is there to tell them that there's
Speaker 1: a prophecy that that the fish is fulfilling, that the
Speaker 1: king is not the real king. The real king has
Speaker 1: been hidden in a dungeon, and so they have to
Speaker 1: go on this quest. So they go on the Big Quest.
Speaker 1: And I wrote thirty speaking parts of the thirty kids
Speaker 1: in my class, so I had like, you know, they
Speaker 1: meet giant bugs. They I don't know whatever, But it
Speaker 1: was just this moment for me where I became a writer,
Speaker 1: you know, where it was like, oh, I knew that
Speaker 1: people would care about what I wrote and the kids
Speaker 1: would perform and I performed in it too. Was you know,
Speaker 1: right when I was discovering acting in third grade. So
Speaker 1: this program, when I found out about it, I was like,
Speaker 1: I will do anything for this program. So I'm the
Speaker 1: head mentor. I brought it to a school in my neighborhood, um,
Speaker 1: like five or six years ago, and I'm just really
Speaker 1: involved in the organization. I love them so much and
Speaker 1: I think what they do is so important. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I think every school should have some version
Speaker 1: of this, not you know, it doesn't have to necessarily
Speaker 1: be screenplaywriting. It could be playwriting or just writing in general,
Speaker 1: you know, giving giving kids the tools to or the
Speaker 1: trust in themselves to to believe that, you know, what
Speaker 1: they have to say about the world will matter. And
Speaker 1: like I said, a lot of them are pretty out there.
Speaker 1: It's always funny to me, like how many how many
Speaker 1: kids write about food? They love writing about food? Your favorite?
Speaker 1: Your favorite? Oh yeah, my favorite? Stud know, they often,
Speaker 1: you know, there's there's time travel stories, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of you know, horror stuff with zombies stuff. But then
Speaker 1: there have been times when, like, you know, one girl
Speaker 1: one year just wrote about her walk home from school
Speaker 1: and like how scared she was to walk home from
Speaker 1: school because it was you know, three blocks down this
Speaker 1: neighborhood and it was just as incredible. She wrote this
Speaker 1: five page movie about you know, the fears and overcoming that. Um.
Speaker 1: Oftentimes people write about sports. Uh, it's it's fun, and
Speaker 1: of course we don't allow violence and stuff, so we
Speaker 1: find very creative ways for like people to battle. Like
Speaker 1: there's always like a dance battle or rap battle or
Speaker 1: something fun going on like that. Yeah, it was really
Speaker 1: fun and um, Will and I had a great time.
Speaker 1: We we of course car pooled there and then car
Speaker 1: pulled back, so uh, it was. It was really fun.
Speaker 1: We had a we had a good time. Thank you
Speaker 1: for always um inviting us. And then that night writer
Speaker 1: had for all of the actors and mentors. He had
Speaker 1: a little um wine and cheese gathering at his house
Speaker 1: and people were invited to, you know, and encouraged to
Speaker 1: bring their kids, and so Jensen and I went and
Speaker 1: brought Adler, and Adler had so much fun that your
Speaker 1: house walked into into his room and it must have
Speaker 1: just been overwhelming. It was so messy, but I'm sure
Speaker 1: for you know, a kid, it's it's head. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he absolutely loved it. I was so happy to be
Speaker 1: the older cool kid, you know. Oh yeah, he really was.
Speaker 1: He was so cool. He was like reading his book
Speaker 1: all chill while others running around playing with all of
Speaker 1: his swords, and he's like, go ahead, do whatever you want,
Speaker 1: but but but nice, Like it was really fun. And
Speaker 1: it was funny because the whole way down there, ad
Speaker 1: in the back seat was like, Mommy, your friend's house
Speaker 1: is far. Mommy, your friend is far, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but you know, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: worth it. And then the next day he was like, Mommy,
Speaker 1: let's go back to your friend's house. And I said,
Speaker 1: remember you said it was really far, and he goes,
Speaker 1: not too far. I was like, right now, it's not
Speaker 1: too far. It is. It's totally worth it, mom, exactly. Well,
Speaker 1: welcome to Pod Meets World. I'm Daniel Fishel and I'm Wilfredell.
Speaker 1: We have yet another very exciting guests. Are fans of
Speaker 1: the pod are going to absolutely lose their marble. One
Speaker 1: of our most requested, I mean easily one of our
Speaker 1: most requested, in the top two, uh most requested cast
Speaker 1: members of Boy Meets World. And that's really lucky for
Speaker 1: us because we of him and adore him, and I
Speaker 1: have not seen him and I don't even know how long.
Speaker 1: I guess world hasn't been that long. Tony and I
Speaker 1: see each other whenever we can. He's been one of
Speaker 1: my closest friends since he was on the show. So
Speaker 1: I saw him not long ago, and then we were
Speaker 1: supposed to see each other in Chicago and he got sick.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, he's Uh, Tony's my boy. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I can't wait very well. Let's please welcome to Pod
Speaker 1: Meets World, Tony Quinn. Tony go to see you it's
Speaker 1: good to see you guys as well. Okay, now, do
Speaker 1: you realize the last time we were all together was
Speaker 1: about six years ago? Six and a half years ago,
Speaker 1: That's what we were just talking about. We're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen Tony since Girl Meets World. Really been
Speaker 1: six and a half years ago? Yeah, yeah, believe that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my son is now seven and held only six months
Speaker 1: old back man. Yeah, he was born during the hen
Speaker 1: in the show. Yeah. Yeah, that's it's ridiculous. And so
Speaker 1: you're living are you living in Chicago now? Ah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of close to that. Yeah. Wow, unbelievable. It's freezing here,
Speaker 1: is it great? Isn't it great? Yeah? Weather, it's actually
Speaker 1: snowed all right. Now, here's just an example. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: it's only November, and I've seen more snow in the
Speaker 1: last month that I've seen forty years in l a. Right,
Speaker 1: it's snowed like six times already. Oh my god. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you, Tony. Thanks. So for those
Speaker 1: of you who don't know, which I'm sure you all
Speaker 1: know now, but Anthony Tony Quinn appeared in fifty one
Speaker 1: episodes of Boy Meets World as Mr Jonathan Turner, who
Speaker 1: was a very cool teacher at John Adams High School
Speaker 1: and one of the most beloved characters in our show's history.
Speaker 1: So take us back, Tony to the very beginning. How
Speaker 1: did you hear about Boy Meets World and your audition
Speaker 1: and what how did it all start for you? Okay,
Speaker 1: so I got I got like long stories if if
Speaker 1: you want to do these long stories. My actual experience
Speaker 1: with Boy Meets World goes way back to the beginning. Uh.
Speaker 1: I first met Michael Jacobs on a pilot that he
Speaker 1: cast me in in nine three I think that's uh yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a pilot called Black Sheep, and it was
Speaker 1: mean Jason Bateman, Willie Garson, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, and Janumary
Speaker 1: hub Wow. So when we were yes, we were we
Speaker 1: were working on this show. We thought we had something
Speaker 1: really special. So you know, Michael was sort of like
Speaker 1: running the thing, and we had developed a really good
Speaker 1: working relationship and a good friendship. And one day Willie,
Speaker 1: uh he and I were at the commissary at that time,
Speaker 1: we were working over at Disney when Disney was just
Speaker 1: remember we had like five little stages over there, and
Speaker 1: he goes, all right, So I got the scoop, and
Speaker 1: I go, what's the scoop? He says, Michael's writing a
Speaker 1: new pilot as we're working on this one. And I said, okay, no,
Speaker 1: wonder he hasn't slept like he'd come to work and
Speaker 1: he hadn't slept in like two days, and his clothes
Speaker 1: looked like he slept in him and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And he goes, it's called the Ben Savage product, and
Speaker 1: I go, I don't. And for some reason, I just
Speaker 1: didn't connect the Fred Savage with Ben Savage. I'd never
Speaker 1: heard the name before. So I said, it doesn't It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what he's working on, because this is this
Speaker 1: will be a hit for him. So we're happy with
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Famous last words exactly things you should
Speaker 1: never say when working in television. Exactly, we're not going
Speaker 1: to any traffic today, yea, our raids are gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: At that moment, I killed the show. We didn't get
Speaker 1: picked up, but Michael, Uh, like I said, we developed
Speaker 1: this great friendship. And Michael had called me. He goes, listen,
Speaker 1: I want you to come into my office and I
Speaker 1: said okay, So he goes, I'm working on this new show.
Speaker 1: It's called the Ben Savage Project. I said, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: I think that's the one Willie was telling me about.
Speaker 1: And he goes, I want you to read for the
Speaker 1: part of the dad. Oh sure, and he said, uh,
Speaker 1: My only problem is, he says, I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: play too young. He said, but we're gonna do it anyway.
Speaker 1: So David Trainer was there. I think Arlene Grayson was there.
Speaker 1: You guys remember Arlene. Okay? Okay. So I read and
Speaker 1: they thought I was really great and funny and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and they said, we want to bring you
Speaker 1: in network. He said, but I want you to sort
Speaker 1: of dress like a jump dressed, right exactly. So I
Speaker 1: do that and I go to ABC over at Avenue
Speaker 1: of the Stars, and that's where I first met Ben
Speaker 1: because Ben was there at network. And I think at
Speaker 1: the time, Uh, Danielle, are you in Ben the same age? Right?
Speaker 1: I think you're a year or two old. I'm like
Speaker 1: a year older than Ben. Yeah, so I guess. Okay,
Speaker 1: So in ninety three, how old were you? I was
Speaker 1: would have been twelve, okay, So Ben was twelve. Okay.
Speaker 1: So that's when I first met Ben and he and
Speaker 1: I read together as the part of the dad and
Speaker 1: we were very We did really great. I mean we
Speaker 1: were It was a lot of fun and we did
Speaker 1: very were well. But afterwards, minds right now that there's
Speaker 1: a multiverse version of Mr Turner as Alan dead. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you would have been too young because how
Speaker 1: old I feel like you because you came on and
Speaker 1: we even make the joke when you first appear in
Speaker 1: the show that you look like a student. So yeah,
Speaker 1: you were, you just were way too young for the part. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think one of your lines actually was to Ben
Speaker 1: was that you said, uh, now that guy, he's he
Speaker 1: looks like he's thirty or something like that. How how
Speaker 1: old are you? How old were you I was at
Speaker 1: the time. I think I was thirty thirty? Uh one
Speaker 1: or two when I do when I my first episode
Speaker 1: of Boy. But what happened was Michael Ahead called me
Speaker 1: after I didn't get the part of Alan. He called
Speaker 1: me the following season in ninety four, at the beginning
Speaker 1: of ninety four, and like I said, he we had
Speaker 1: his great working relationship and he goes, come on down,
Speaker 1: We'll go to lunch. I said, Okay, so I come down.
Speaker 1: He's like, all right, So what are you doing. I
Speaker 1: go I'm just trying to get work. I'm auditioning and
Speaker 1: doing all this stuff. He's all right, so he goes, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he goes, why don't you? He goes, I
Speaker 1: got this new character. We're trying to expand the universe
Speaker 1: of boy. And he goes, maybe you should read for this,
Speaker 1: and I go, all right, what is it? And he says,
Speaker 1: it's a part of this hip teacher. His name is
Speaker 1: Mr Turner. And I said okay, and he goes, but
Speaker 1: the problem is, he goes, here's the problem. He goes,
Speaker 1: it's an it's part of an ensemble cast. And I
Speaker 1: go okay. So so and he goes, but there's gonna
Speaker 1: be sometimes when you don't have a whole lot to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I was like, Michael, I don't care about that.
Speaker 1: I don't count lines or it doesn't matter to me.
Speaker 1: I said, I would love to work with you and
Speaker 1: whatever you got going. And I said it would be great.
Speaker 1: So he goes, all right, so let's just do it.
Speaker 1: We'll read and we'll see where we go. So then
Speaker 1: now here we are we uh twenty five years later.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't actually gonna cast me in that because
Speaker 1: he said to me, he said, but you're like a
Speaker 1: lead actor though, he said, you were the lead in
Speaker 1: my pilot, and I go, who cares? And then hadn't
Speaker 1: you in between done another show? When was? Because were
Speaker 1: you on like the Gabby Hoffman show? Yeah? What was that?
Speaker 1: That's right, you're what we at the time called Girl
Speaker 1: Meets World. Before we did, we referred to and said like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're doing Girl meets Were all across the street for
Speaker 1: exactly right. We did, uh six episodes. I think that, yes,
Speaker 1: they did, they did, But that was one of those
Speaker 1: shows that when we were doing it, I think the
Speaker 1: pilot was good, but then all of a sudden, I
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys have ever had this experience
Speaker 1: where I don't know what it is about actors, but
Speaker 1: they just for me. I always felt like, at some
Speaker 1: point they're going to discover that I'm a fraud and
Speaker 1: they're gonna fire me. Y. Yeah, very common. Dustin Hoffman
Speaker 1: has a great definition of actors this, we're all egomaniacs
Speaker 1: with inferiority complex. So we we realized we found out
Speaker 1: on this show not long ago that when we were
Speaker 1: comparing actors to Daniell's son Adler. They were very similar,
Speaker 1: and Adler as, yeah, like narcissists, yet similar all the time.
Speaker 1: Please come and hold me until I find my center
Speaker 1: and then I'll come out and perform. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: exactly exactly well. When we were doing that show, Bruce
Speaker 1: Helford was one of the creators, one of the writers
Speaker 1: of the show. So I was sitting in the makeup chair.
Speaker 1: Patty Heaton was played my wife. Oh cool and uh.
Speaker 1: It was probably the second episode in on the on
Speaker 1: the run of the series, and I was sitting in
Speaker 1: the makeup chair. Her and I were talking and Bruce
Speaker 1: Helford comes in and he motions to Patty and he goes.
Speaker 1: So she leaves, and I'm going, kid, what's that about?
Speaker 1: You know? So she comes back and she looks a
Speaker 1: little upset, and I was gone, Okay, that must be
Speaker 1: some type of drama that I don't want to be
Speaker 1: involved in. So he looks at me and he does
Speaker 1: the same thing, and I'm like, crap, did you know
Speaker 1: right then? No, I thought he's gonna fire me. I
Speaker 1: thought he's calling me over going. He just told Patty
Speaker 1: that they're gonna replace me or something, and now he's
Speaker 1: calling me out to tell me, hey, you gotta really
Speaker 1: walking papers. So he comes. He we walk into a
Speaker 1: separate room and I'm looking at him like okay, and
Speaker 1: he goes, he looks at me and he sees this
Speaker 1: look on my face and he goes, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're fine, You're and I go okay, and he goes,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to let you know that I'm leaving
Speaker 1: the show. Oh. And I was like, and I did that,
Speaker 1: and I went why and he goes, well, it's a
Speaker 1: long story, creative differences, but I'm leaving the show. And
Speaker 1: then the show just became like this mess of Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when you know the ship is sinking. Yeah, exactly
Speaker 1: people started to ump episode. Yeah exactly right, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the worst feeling. Yeah, it wasn't that. Also on the
Speaker 1: Disney lot, weren't you like right across that We were
Speaker 1: right there? That's what I thought. Okay, that's what I thought.
Speaker 1: It was. It was you you were doing that show,
Speaker 1: we were doing Boy, and then All American Girl was
Speaker 1: right across most the Margaret Show show was right there. Yes, Ellen,
Speaker 1: when when we were Ellen shot right across from us, too, right,
Speaker 1: I think? So yeah, there was Yeah, so it was
Speaker 1: that kind of It was a cool kind of lot.
Speaker 1: But I remember we would distinctly call it girl meets
Speaker 1: World and we would joke around like Gabby Hoffman and
Speaker 1: she'd walk out and be like, oh, she plays Tory.
Speaker 1: What was the name of the show? What was it called?
Speaker 1: It was called Someone Like Me, the unentitled Gaby Hoffman Project. Right. So,
Speaker 1: Mr Turner's first appearance is in the very first episode
Speaker 1: of season two, which is called Back to School, and
Speaker 1: it was obviously a part of the large retooling the
Speaker 1: show had going from season one. It just explodes with
Speaker 1: new people and and it feels totally different, feels a different,
Speaker 1: brand new show, totally different show. Did Michael or anyone
Speaker 1: else talk to you about that? Had you had you
Speaker 1: heard that they were going to try and age us
Speaker 1: up or that you know, like, what, what exactly did
Speaker 1: you know about what was happening to the show? Um?
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what his what his desire was
Speaker 1: for the show in season two, like they were trying
Speaker 1: to bring you guys up. I mean, I think some
Speaker 1: of the stuff in the in the in that episode
Speaker 1: was kind of self explanatory to me that they were
Speaker 1: going into uh, sort of junior high school and they
Speaker 1: wanted to be more mature and stuff like that. He
Speaker 1: had pretty much just given me notes about what he
Speaker 1: wanted me to be. Um, he wanted me to be
Speaker 1: sort of the opposite of Bill's character, Mr Feeney. I
Speaker 1: was like this, right, and I wanted He said, I
Speaker 1: really want you to try to connect with the students
Speaker 1: on their level and try to be more of like
Speaker 1: hit the ground where they are and and relate to
Speaker 1: them more, but yet still be this hip and cool
Speaker 1: adult that that gives them direction and and and kind
Speaker 1: of boundaries and stuff like that. So that's what we
Speaker 1: were shooting for. Where and I always say that Boy
Speaker 1: Meets World was the last show on the air where
Speaker 1: the kids were the star of the show. The adults
Speaker 1: were not morons. Yeah, right, well, I agree, I agree
Speaker 1: it was. It was. That's one of the things when
Speaker 1: we're doing this rewatch because Ryder didn't even know he
Speaker 1: was on Boymans roll to like a month ago. Danielle
Speaker 1: and I haven't haven't watched it since it was out, um,
Speaker 1: but one of the things that we're noticing is that
Speaker 1: as we're watching it as adults, it's a completely different show.
Speaker 1: Because we're watching the adults more than we're watching kind
Speaker 1: of the kids. And how good all the adults on
Speaker 1: the show were. I mean, we all knew Bill was good.
Speaker 1: He was Bill. It was that was that was kind
Speaker 1: of a foregone conclusion before we'd even started. But going back,
Speaker 1: especially in season one and watching how good Rusty and
Speaker 1: Betsy were together, um, and how many moments they get,
Speaker 1: like how much time is dedicated to the two of
Speaker 1: them just talking about parenting and figuring out like them
Speaker 1: not knowing, you know, they have to like sort of
Speaker 1: discuss how to be a parent. And with you, there's
Speaker 1: this lovely scene in the first episode of your your
Speaker 1: first episode with you and Bill, where there's this kind
Speaker 1: of like he's checking in on you and I'm saying
Speaker 1: for me. I had no idea that that scene even existed,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is such a cool dynamic,
Speaker 1: and I you know, now, I mean, we haven't watched
Speaker 1: much of the second season, so I'm so excited to
Speaker 1: see if that develops more because I'm fascinated by those
Speaker 1: adult dynamics that I had no clue was going on
Speaker 1: while we were making this show. Was it was nuts? Yeah, crazy,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Tony, it was not. It was great. S
Speaker 1: are you you guys are watching the the like rewatching
Speaker 1: the show from season one on first episode all the
Speaker 1: way through. Writers never seen them, and Will and I
Speaker 1: have not seen them since they aired in the nineties,
Speaker 1: so it's like watching it's like watching a brand new
Speaker 1: show for us. You've never seen the show. Writer know,
Speaker 1: he watched like a handful of episodes when the first
Speaker 1: season and then I was like, I was so insecure
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, I'm never gonna watch this again.
Speaker 1: And so you're you're as bad as me, absolutely as
Speaker 1: bad as me. Yeah, So did you ever watch Boyis
Speaker 1: World then? Or I used to watch I used to
Speaker 1: watch it now. This is kind of an interesting dynamic
Speaker 1: because I used to watch the show because I used
Speaker 1: to love watching you guys work and seeing all the
Speaker 1: things that we did because we were all part of
Speaker 1: that process. So I used to love to see the
Speaker 1: finished product. But um, there came a time when I
Speaker 1: really could not stand seeing myself on film, and when
Speaker 1: somebody would tell me, I was like, oh, please don't,
Speaker 1: I don't. I remember I was in this film and
Speaker 1: they invited me to a screening, and I really was
Speaker 1: trying to get out of it. But because I had
Speaker 1: such a nice relationship with one of the producers, I
Speaker 1: promised that I would go, and I said, but when
Speaker 1: it comes time to go, sit in the theater area
Speaker 1: and watch it, I'll sneak out, because I was almost
Speaker 1: having like a panic attack because I did not want
Speaker 1: to see myself. But when I walked into the theater,
Speaker 1: the door was in the front and oh crap, film, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I was in the back, just going on, please,
Speaker 1: I don't want to see any of this that I
Speaker 1: have to say. I have to say from now, just
Speaker 1: from a personal standpoint, my life on the set really
Speaker 1: changed when you showed up because by this point season two,
Speaker 1: I was now out of school, so I wasn't going
Speaker 1: to school on the set with Danielle and Ryder and
Speaker 1: Ben all the other quote unquote kids, So I was
Speaker 1: kind of in and I wasn't obviously gonna be hanging
Speaker 1: out with Betsy and Rusty who were so much older
Speaker 1: than me. So I was kind of like in in
Speaker 1: No person's land. I was just lost there and then
Speaker 1: you show up, and it was probably the second or
Speaker 1: third episode, by about eleven o'clock in the morning, when
Speaker 1: we don't have anything to do. We looked at each
Speaker 1: other and we're like, hey, you want to be friends,
Speaker 1: and can I can I? Can I give it? Can
Speaker 1: I give a scene? From an outsider's perspective? This, This
Speaker 1: is what season two through season four was like. On
Speaker 1: the set of Point who Ad you walking down the hall,
Speaker 1: like I guess it was. It was after we had
Speaker 1: left Disney. I don't I don't know which stage it was,
Speaker 1: but I just remember you walked down the hall and
Speaker 1: you just hear NonStop laughter and there would be a
Speaker 1: door open and it would be one of your rooms,
Speaker 1: and you guys would be knee deep in some card
Speaker 1: game that you had invented. You would basically be speaking
Speaker 1: your own language, like you guys had so many in jokes,
Speaker 1: on in jokes, on in jokes, and then you would
Speaker 1: be pranking one another. So it was like it was
Speaker 1: like these two guys who were like mirror images of
Speaker 1: each other in personality, like just biggest smiles, making each
Speaker 1: other laugh so much, and none of us had any
Speaker 1: clue what was going on, and you guys were just
Speaker 1: like and then you'd like leave because you guys wouldn't
Speaker 1: be in scenes with the rest of us, and you
Speaker 1: guys would leave and come back having I don't know,
Speaker 1: played tennis to get I don't know what you guys
Speaker 1: would go off and do, but you would come back
Speaker 1: just having story after story. You were just inseparable. It
Speaker 1: was so fun. It was such a source of energy
Speaker 1: and light on our set was just your relationship. It
Speaker 1: was so weird, and we would every day we would
Speaker 1: either go golf, or we would bowl, or we would
Speaker 1: go shooting. We'd go to so it was Remember do
Speaker 1: you remember the prank that we played on Steve Paper,
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, when he got all mad at us. Do
Speaker 1: you remember that? Do you tell us? We went to
Speaker 1: a shooting range and we had like four hours where
Speaker 1: we didn't have to do anything, and we had to
Speaker 1: be back for a run through. So we're on the
Speaker 1: one one, I think, coming back from some shooting range
Speaker 1: and I said to Will, either he said to me
Speaker 1: or I said to him. I said, let's prank Steve.
Speaker 1: And he goes okay. So we called him and we go, dude,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna make it back to the run through.
Speaker 1: We are stuck in traffic. We're screwing remember this. So
Speaker 1: Steve goes into full on control mode. He's like, all right,
Speaker 1: where are you? I go. We're on the one on one.
Speaker 1: We're just passing like this topanga and he's like, and
Speaker 1: we're literally like five minutes away from that. But let's
Speaker 1: explain this to our audience. So this means, so Steve,
Speaker 1: Steve papers our first, our stage manager, so he's in
Speaker 1: charge of wrangling everybody, including thirty writers and producers and
Speaker 1: network executives for this run through. So people have scheduled
Speaker 1: their entire day around showing up at this time to
Speaker 1: watch the show. So if you guys aren't there, there
Speaker 1: is no run through, and it screws everybody's day. People
Speaker 1: like it's a big deal. So we can tell Steve
Speaker 1: had a little edge of stress in his voice, so
Speaker 1: we tell him. We tell him we're like way far away.
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, so get off the one on one.
Speaker 1: He starts giving directions that take Laurel, take a left
Speaker 1: on Laurel goes. I mean, it was like he was
Speaker 1: a Thomas Guid all of a sudden. It was so weird. Okay, dude,
Speaker 1: we'll call you when we're like five minutes out. He's like,
Speaker 1: all right, get here as fast as you can. So
Speaker 1: we get off the phone, we get off the exit
Speaker 1: and we're literally pulling into the parking lot. We walk
Speaker 1: onto the stage and we were like ten minutes early.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, remember he wasn't the stage. We
Speaker 1: we got he what We got out of the car
Speaker 1: and we were walking towards the stage and the door
Speaker 1: open the medicine parking lot. That's right, right, So he
Speaker 1: points the both of us and he goes YouTube, come
Speaker 1: with me. Were like, but it was a it was
Speaker 1: a dog. And he walks us in and he's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: that was really funny, but I'm so stressed out right now.
Speaker 1: Yes it was. It was hilarious in the face, Steve,
Speaker 1: you should get red yet so bad, but it was
Speaker 1: so fun the pranking. Here's what I remember about the pranking.
Speaker 1: It started like slow, like you know so, and then
Speaker 1: I remember walking into the set one day and going
Speaker 1: and opening the door to my dressing room and floor
Speaker 1: to ceiling it was full of furniture. I mean from
Speaker 1: the back of the thing. There must have been a
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty pieces of furniture in the room, Like
Speaker 1: you couldn't. It was one of those things where I
Speaker 1: just stood done you had gone to like all the
Speaker 1: other dressing rooms, furniture, and then the set and ever.
Speaker 1: It was just it was full floor to ceiling. You
Speaker 1: could not step in walking. It was so impressive that
Speaker 1: it was just like I don't know how to top this,
Speaker 1: Like this is really impressively incredible. Yeah, but what did
Speaker 1: you do? You left it all in there? I did?
Speaker 1: It was great, exactly. I remember one day knocking on
Speaker 1: his door and Will was reclined on sort of a
Speaker 1: couch that was stacked on something else, and it was
Speaker 1: like up in the air. I look in his room
Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, are you ready to go to lunch? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll be right there, and he just laying on this
Speaker 1: big couch. Way he hadn't brought it in and somebody
Speaker 1: else's responsibility to take me, it was my response. Did
Speaker 1: we said the weirdest No, we just did the weirdest things.
Speaker 1: I mean it would always start, like you said, with
Speaker 1: a card game or something like that, and I remember
Speaker 1: at certain times, at one point ended with both of
Speaker 1: us crouched behind opposite tables just throwing poker chips at
Speaker 1: each other as hard as possible. It's a lot of
Speaker 1: throwing and flicking and rubber bands and led you guys
Speaker 1: were Yeah. But here's what's funny about all of that.
Speaker 1: To me, did you guys really work together that much?
Speaker 1: Did you ever have scenes together? I could think of
Speaker 1: one or two. We had a few that we always
Speaker 1: talked about that where it's like they never gave us
Speaker 1: that much stuff to do, and I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but um, there were there were more than I remember.
Speaker 1: I actually don't really like I saw one recently. My wife,
Speaker 1: by the way, Margaret says hello and everything. Hello Margaret.
Speaker 1: My mom would want me to tell you hello as well.
Speaker 1: Absolutely give her a big hug for me. But she
Speaker 1: showed me a clip of a scene between you and
Speaker 1: I Will, and I'm like, I have no memory of that.
Speaker 1: Remember is the ash tray class? Because you had a
Speaker 1: joke about that afterwards. But that's of course, because I
Speaker 1: remember the line I said to you, you're like Matthews
Speaker 1: where you headed in a thick Brooklyn accent, because all
Speaker 1: of a sudden season two everyone was from New York
Speaker 1: for some reason, and it was like Matthew's where you
Speaker 1: had And I was like, Sarah Mix and You're like,
Speaker 1: what is Sarah mis and and you mean ceramics, and
Speaker 1: I go, yeah, the ash tray class, and I try
Speaker 1: you walked away that I remember, and that's it. That's
Speaker 1: the only one, Sarah mis and I was that close
Speaker 1: to busting. And you could sort of tell that I
Speaker 1: almost broke because I can watch it and I go,
Speaker 1: they didn't cut away. We broke. So going back to
Speaker 1: obviously you had a very fun, childlike relationship with Will,
Speaker 1: going back at times your relationship with the other adults
Speaker 1: on the show, specifically Bill Daniels, who had was so
Speaker 1: well established as the character of Mr. Feenie. Were there
Speaker 1: any did you have any sort of reservations as coming
Speaker 1: in as a new teacher um playing opposite him, What
Speaker 1: was your relationship with Bill? Like? Um, Bill was a
Speaker 1: lot more playful than I than I thought he was
Speaker 1: going to be, which I really liked. And I was
Speaker 1: always a big fan of his work. Like, if you
Speaker 1: ever go back and watch some of the things that
Speaker 1: he's done, you're like, dude, this guy has worked with everybody.
Speaker 1: So I used to always grow him on. How you know,
Speaker 1: what was Warren Baby Like? What was James Garner? Like?
Speaker 1: You know, I mean these are people, I mean, you've
Speaker 1: worked with everybody. But our relationship was was always very friendly.
Speaker 1: I remember one time and he laughed at me for this.
Speaker 1: Jeff McCracken was directing an episode. He was a writer,
Speaker 1: producer and sometimes he would direct and uh, Bill had
Speaker 1: a problem with We were doing a scene and Bill
Speaker 1: had a problem with one of the directions of the
Speaker 1: thing that Jeff was having him do. And Bill goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't want to do I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: He goes, I'd rather do this and do that, and
Speaker 1: Jeff was like, okay, okay, yeah, that's fine if you
Speaker 1: go if you want to, Yeah, that's good. So then
Speaker 1: we kept working on the scene and I came to
Speaker 1: Jeff and I said something similar to and saying, Jeff,
Speaker 1: doesn't it feel weird if I'm doing this and go
Speaker 1: on that? And He's like, yeah, we're not going to
Speaker 1: change it, and Bill. Bill was laughing at me. He
Speaker 1: started cracking up, and I was like, how did you
Speaker 1: get away with that? I love My favorite was when
Speaker 1: you talked to Bill about exactly what you said about, like,
Speaker 1: you know, what was it like working with Dustin Hoffman
Speaker 1: or what was it like James Garner. He'd always come
Speaker 1: back with their the names that he called them, so'd
Speaker 1: be like, well the thing about Dusty, and you're like, wow,
Speaker 1: you calling us Dusty exactly. It's like, yeah, Jian, Jimmy, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: Jimmy was cool. It's like, oh man, it's Jimmy and Dusty,
Speaker 1: Like that's so cool. Yeah, he was. I mean you
Speaker 1: could tell by the type of actor that he is.
Speaker 1: I mean he's all emotion. Oh, it's just he might
Speaker 1: not look like it. He might not look like it
Speaker 1: because he's just the way that he composes himself and
Speaker 1: the way that he works. But that's where that's why
Speaker 1: he's such a good actor as because when he lets
Speaker 1: those floodgates open, it's all emotion. Oh yeah. Do you
Speaker 1: have a favorite Mr. Turner teaching moment? Oh? I I
Speaker 1: tend to not look at things that I did and
Speaker 1: think of them as that's my favorite moment, because I
Speaker 1: think my favorite moments from the show involve you guys.
Speaker 1: Things that I watched that you guys have done that
Speaker 1: I could just watch over and over and over because
Speaker 1: it was so well done. Um for me, because you know,
Speaker 1: you and I writer had so much to do this
Speaker 1: so much. There's there's a couple of moments between you
Speaker 1: and I, Danielle and you and I will and you
Speaker 1: and I writer that that I felt were I could
Speaker 1: watch it over and over again. But one moment stands
Speaker 1: out for me is that episode. Um, I think it's
Speaker 1: called a double lie. I think where we lie to
Speaker 1: each other. Oh you don't remember, okay, and I we
Speaker 1: we we lie to each other. You wanted to be
Speaker 1: with this girl, and I tell you going on this
Speaker 1: right because I'm living with you at that point, right,
Speaker 1: and you you want to be with this girl. And
Speaker 1: I tell you I'm going to be out of town
Speaker 1: and you're on up in my apartment right right. And
Speaker 1: so we're upset that we've lied to each other, and
Speaker 1: then we have to make it right, and we both
Speaker 1: wanted to make it right, and you were You were
Speaker 1: sort of frustrated that you know, as an adult, I
Speaker 1: would do that to you. And so there was like
Speaker 1: this tender moment between us where and it was like,
Speaker 1: we're both new at this and we want to make
Speaker 1: it right. We made a mistake and we're not. And
Speaker 1: part of the part of the baggage that you carried
Speaker 1: was we we had a falling out. So that means
Speaker 1: we're all done. And I was like, just because something
Speaker 1: happens like this doesn't mean we just chucked the whole relationship.
Speaker 1: Now we just have to do it and do it better,
Speaker 1: you know. So I always looked at that moment as
Speaker 1: I I just was really proud of that particular relationship
Speaker 1: moment between you and I. Yeah, well it's like because
Speaker 1: you know, because I haven't seen the show, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't have very specific memories. I just know I
Speaker 1: had this overwhelming feeling of you and me having so
Speaker 1: many great acting moments together, Like I just remember we
Speaker 1: had so much like I believe there's a scene where
Speaker 1: you basically offered to adopt me or for me to
Speaker 1: move in with you when I'm trying to run away,
Speaker 1: and I just remember we had a series of those
Speaker 1: and it just made sense, like it made sense for
Speaker 1: our characters, Like I remember being like, oh, Sean and
Speaker 1: Turner are like Turner sort of like an older Seawan
Speaker 1: in some ways, and he's going to understand this guy.
Speaker 1: And then just as an actor, like I just remember
Speaker 1: you and I always enjoying those moments like just loving
Speaker 1: the like being able to rely on you for the
Speaker 1: drama and being able to like trust that, like we're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to carry this scene like it's it's
Speaker 1: me and Tony, Like I don't know. I just I
Speaker 1: don't because I because I don't remember. I was so young.
Speaker 1: I don't have this, But I just have this overwhelming
Speaker 1: feeling of like always loving being in scenes with you,
Speaker 1: and like the dynamic between our characters just feeling right
Speaker 1: like it was just you know, I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: you were just the father figure teacher that Sean needed,
Speaker 1: and then as an actor, you were just a rock
Speaker 1: that I could rely on, that we could play off
Speaker 1: of each other so well. I'm like, I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to watching those those scenes. Tony, what what was your
Speaker 1: first impression of each of us? Um? There was there
Speaker 1: was an effortlessness about you guys. Um, your work just
Speaker 1: seems so effortless. Like Wright you just said, you guys
Speaker 1: are so young, but but your work and your presence
Speaker 1: on stage was so mature and so effortless. I guess
Speaker 1: that's the word I used to describe it, because it
Speaker 1: just seemed like you guys weren't trying. You just were
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And you inhabited the characters
Speaker 1: so well. All of you guys and I and I
Speaker 1: really loved that environment when I when I came on
Speaker 1: the set, because you guys were so well established as
Speaker 1: characters and your work was so spot on that it
Speaker 1: was easy to just sort of run alongside you guys
Speaker 1: and go with you. Mm hmm. I have a question
Speaker 1: that I'd like to throw out there to everybody, because
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm curious, what do you think the chances
Speaker 1: are that they had planned right from bringing Tony on
Speaker 1: that it was going to end up being Mr Turner
Speaker 1: and Sewn together? Do you think there was any thought
Speaker 1: of thought of that at all or here's the well,
Speaker 1: here's my question for Tony. Actually that probably would answer
Speaker 1: that was were you brought on as a regular or
Speaker 1: were you reoccurring or were you a guest star? Do
Speaker 1: you remember I was? I was? I was brought on
Speaker 1: as a regular. That's where Michael, Yeah, and yeah. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised, man, I wouldn't be surprised if they
Speaker 1: saw something like right away, like there was a plan
Speaker 1: in place, We're gonna bring on a new young teacher
Speaker 1: and it's going to be kind of Sean's mentor going
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. I mean, if you had asked
Speaker 1: me that before rewatching the first season, I would have
Speaker 1: said no. But now having watched the first season and
Speaker 1: seeing how well Sean was already established as the sort
Speaker 1: of troublemaker with a broken home who kind of needed
Speaker 1: that figure, you know, and the fact that Phoenie like
Speaker 1: the dynamic with Phoenie and Sean just doesn't make as
Speaker 1: much sense, right, Like, it doesn't make as much sense
Speaker 1: as you also already have the teacher. You It's sort
Speaker 1: of like, if you're going to have Sean be a
Speaker 1: bigger character, which I had already started to become in
Speaker 1: the first season, then you want to have his teacher
Speaker 1: his version. That makes perfect sense to me that they
Speaker 1: would have already been thinking that. And if and you know,
Speaker 1: if if Tony had just been a guest star, I
Speaker 1: would say maybe they were trying it out, but since
Speaker 1: he was becoming coming in as a regular. But I
Speaker 1: also don't remember when that dynamic starts happening. I'm assuming
Speaker 1: it happens relatively soon, but maybe it doesn't happen until
Speaker 1: the third season. So um, but it seems like it's
Speaker 1: already built into the characters. Do you remember writer ever
Speaker 1: having a lot of scenes with Harley because it seems
Speaker 1: like because that's it seems like what they could have
Speaker 1: done was it's like, look at the different direction. Sean
Speaker 1: could go dynamically or you could go be a Mr.
Speaker 1: Turner or he did write that that that they did
Speaker 1: righte that episode, but I don't think it's until third
Speaker 1: season and that's the that's the episode that Harley was
Speaker 1: replaced by Griff. Not Griff, but remember that actor show
Speaker 1: and the other actor came in, because that is an
Speaker 1: episode where I'm encouraged to beat up Mr Turner's motorcycle
Speaker 1: with a baseball bat and so it's like myself with
Speaker 1: the bad kids. So that does happen, you know, I
Speaker 1: end up with Joey and Frankie, but it was and
Speaker 1: it wasn't hardly at that time because Danny had already
Speaker 1: left the show. Um but but yeah, so they did
Speaker 1: end up doing it. But as far as like, I
Speaker 1: don't think I had many scenes with Joey and Frankie
Speaker 1: and and and and Harley in the second season besides
Speaker 1: that one, which I think is third season interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you watched that episode, uh, and well, you
Speaker 1: could do a great impression to be in that episode
Speaker 1: with the baseball bat. Oh yeah you do that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. I don't know how to describe that to
Speaker 1: our listening audience. Tony does a great, great important bat
Speaker 1: double take kind of thing. It's like and you probably
Speaker 1: just never let him live it down right like he
Speaker 1: did one act and you were like, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: let this go. It was perfect and the way he
Speaker 1: did it it was hilarious, and then it just kept
Speaker 1: getting better and better. We were merciless towards each other,
Speaker 1: we really, but that episode was kind of like at
Speaker 1: that moment, it was like Mr. Turner really felt like,
Speaker 1: please don't become that if you go down that road
Speaker 1: like he I think one of the lines is something
Speaker 1: about if you don't, if you stay away from something
Speaker 1: this Harley or that Harley or whatever, you're going to
Speaker 1: be because you were like literally asking him and you
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna be okay because I don't feel like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be okay, and I gave you a little
Speaker 1: bit of fatherly direction, going You're gonna be okay, and
Speaker 1: it was like, I can't. It was kind of like
Speaker 1: this moment where that teacher couldn't let this young kid
Speaker 1: slip through his fingers. You know what I mean, such
Speaker 1: a it was such a great dynamic, and it's so
Speaker 1: it's only increases the disappointment that you were around for
Speaker 1: the fifth or sixth or song or Girl Meets World
Speaker 1: besides one moment I wanted to ask next when I
Speaker 1: tell you that it is one of our most frequently
Speaker 1: emailed questions. And when I say frequent, I mean we
Speaker 1: get hundreds of emails about it, people saying they do
Speaker 1: not understand why you were only on the show for
Speaker 1: two seasons and you were very missed, not just by
Speaker 1: all of us but by the audience. Were you given
Speaker 1: any warning that you weren't coming back? What did you know? Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's kind of a long story because a few
Speaker 1: things were sort of strung together that I talked about
Speaker 1: this all the time. By the way, people ask me
Speaker 1: that whenever they recognize me, and they this is always
Speaker 1: part of the conversation. Yeah, but I've never really told
Speaker 1: the long version of it. So maybe this can be
Speaker 1: the official Boy meets World version of the events that occurred.
Speaker 1: But uh, let's let's wind the tape back. Okay, we
Speaker 1: had just finished season read and we were over on
Speaker 1: stage over at kt l A, and we had done that.
Speaker 1: We just finished last episode and we're all high five
Speaker 1: in and we're hugging each other and saying, great job,
Speaker 1: great season, we'll see you next season. And I saw
Speaker 1: Michael Jacobs on stage across from me, and I, you know,
Speaker 1: like I said, we had a great friendship and a
Speaker 1: good working relationship. So I wanted to go over to
Speaker 1: him and just kind of say congratulations, and what do
Speaker 1: you think of the way my character is developing and
Speaker 1: how he's interacting with everybody. So I went and asked him,
Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, we think it's great. It's all great. Uh,
Speaker 1: we're very excited. You can't wait for season four. And
Speaker 1: he kind of shared with me a little bit about
Speaker 1: what they wanted to do, what their intention was for
Speaker 1: season four. They he told me they wanted to do
Speaker 1: a little bit of a deeper dive into the nature
Speaker 1: of our relationship right than you know, we were becoming
Speaker 1: this family, and that we were we were learning from
Speaker 1: each other and teaching each other and growing and helping
Speaker 1: each other. So I was very excited. I couldn't wait
Speaker 1: for season four. So that was the end of March.
Speaker 1: I think in nine. So remember that conversation, because in
Speaker 1: June of I get a phone call from Michael Jacobs
Speaker 1: and he's like, all right, so I got bad news.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, and I and now the
Speaker 1: last time I had a conversation with Michael that started
Speaker 1: with I got bad news, it was about our lean Grayson,
Speaker 1: who had passed away. I think in season two, right
Speaker 1: we we yeah, we went all we went up to
Speaker 1: her funeral at Forest Long. Remember that. So I was
Speaker 1: like okay, and he goes, so you're not coming back
Speaker 1: for season four? And I was like, wait, just like that,
Speaker 1: like just like that, yeah, and he goes. So he goes,
Speaker 1: like very sparingly. He goes maybe five episodes, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: he goes, but definitely not season five. You know you're
Speaker 1: you're not coming back. And I go, okay. Now I
Speaker 1: get the concept that in show business there's no such
Speaker 1: thing as job security. I get that, but this just
Speaker 1: seemed like such a radical reversal because we just had
Speaker 1: a conversation like two months ago that everything was great,
Speaker 1: and so I just go what what happened? And he goes.
Speaker 1: So the network and the studio came at us kind
Speaker 1: of last minute with some changes. They were saying, the
Speaker 1: kids are going into high school now and we want
Speaker 1: to explore that whole dynamics, so we're going to change
Speaker 1: it up. And he goes, it was just kind of
Speaker 1: you know, unexpected last minute, so there was nothing we
Speaker 1: could do to save it or you know whatever. And
Speaker 1: he goes and it is what it is, and um
Speaker 1: and then that was it. That was it. So I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, just so I I first thing, I
Speaker 1: was really sad because I thought, I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to come to work with you guys anymore, you know,
Speaker 1: the stuff that all the fun stuff and the laughter
Speaker 1: and the cast intros and table reads and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: It was like I was getting kicked out of the house,
Speaker 1: you know. But then I thought, now I gotta go
Speaker 1: on the audition trail and try to find some other work,
Speaker 1: and nobody wants to do that. So um, as we
Speaker 1: were talking, he told me, he says, I want you
Speaker 1: to know that, you know, I feel really bad. He said,
Speaker 1: So if you're out there and you're working, if you're
Speaker 1: auditioning or whatever, and you get a job or you
Speaker 1: get an offer, he says, I want you to feel
Speaker 1: free to explore that because you're you're you're not going
Speaker 1: to be with us, and I want you to work.
Speaker 1: So I said, okay, Now this is where the story
Speaker 1: gets interesting because it's not over yet, which I think
Speaker 1: is really funny. Uh. This was in June of Now
Speaker 1: you fast forward to about February of because I was
Speaker 1: I was gearing towards pilot season for ninety seven because
Speaker 1: I had to get a job. That's why if you
Speaker 1: if you watch the last episode or two that I
Speaker 1: did at the show, my hair was different because I
Speaker 1: had that I was auditioning for the things that I
Speaker 1: had to cut my hair. So I was getting really
Speaker 1: close to getting this pilot that I auditioned for in
Speaker 1: for Fox, and I auditioned, I jumped through all the
Speaker 1: hoops and they wanted to bring me to studio and
Speaker 1: meet everybody there, and then they wanted to bring me
Speaker 1: to network. And I was thinking this is great right
Speaker 1: off the heels. And I think at that time, I
Speaker 1: think I was doing like one or two episodes every
Speaker 1: couple of months of boy Um, and I think I
Speaker 1: only wind up doing like five or six of season four.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna bring me to network. And I get
Speaker 1: a phone call from my manager, and he goes, all right,
Speaker 1: so we have a huge problem. And I was like,
Speaker 1: of course there's a huge problem. Why wouldn't there be
Speaker 1: a huge problem. I was like, what's the problem and
Speaker 1: he goes, so Disney is not letting you out of
Speaker 1: your contract and I go, wait what? And I was
Speaker 1: honestly confused because it's been nine months now since I
Speaker 1: got the phone call from Michael, and I go, what contract? Right?
Speaker 1: And he goes, your contract at Disney and I go
Speaker 1: I said, are you talking about Boy Met World? And
Speaker 1: he goes yeah, and I go, uh, I don't have
Speaker 1: a contract, you know as well as I do, I said.
Speaker 1: They they called me, They told me that I was
Speaker 1: being dismissed, and presently told me to go yes. Yes.
Speaker 1: So I was like, I don't understand. What do you
Speaker 1: mean they're not letty? He goes, well, your contract is
Speaker 1: still active and they're not letting you out of it,
Speaker 1: and I go, I don't understand. So I was thinking
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, Well, if Disney wants to bring me
Speaker 1: back to Boy Meets World, I got no problem with that.
Speaker 1: I would love to go back and be with you
Speaker 1: guys and finish out the run of the show, bring
Speaker 1: it on, I'll do that. Or if Fox wants to
Speaker 1: sort of have conversations with Disney saying no, we want them,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna try to hash this out. It's like
Speaker 1: I don't really care. I just need to work. I
Speaker 1: just have a family to support, right. But then I
Speaker 1: then I thought this. I thought this could go sideways,
Speaker 1: like really fast, Like if Disney calls Fox and says
Speaker 1: we're not letting him out of his contract, then Fox goes, okay,
Speaker 1: then we'll just pass and go to the next hundred
Speaker 1: actors that are waiting for this show. And then Disney goes, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah we changed our minds too, and
Speaker 1: then you know, Mr Man walks away with nothing, and
Speaker 1: then I and then I think, okay, then I've been
Speaker 1: rejected by this same studio twice. So then my my
Speaker 1: manager was talking about a lawsuit or saying something. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want any of this drama.
Speaker 1: So I guess at the I guess cooler heads prevailed.
Speaker 1: And then finally Disney was just like, oh, yeah, never mind, okay,
Speaker 1: are bad, Yeah you can go ahead, And I just
Speaker 1: I didn't understand why they would try to do that
Speaker 1: like a powerholder and keep Yeah, I just want because
Speaker 1: you let me go. So that was kind of a
Speaker 1: weird that. So that's the official sort of timeline of
Speaker 1: why they didn't bring me back. But I never really
Speaker 1: It's not like they told me, well, your character wasn't
Speaker 1: very popular, or you wanted to get off the show,
Speaker 1: or you just didn't work well with other people. It
Speaker 1: just they just wanted to make those changes. They didn't
Speaker 1: tell us either, for the record, which is so weird.
Speaker 1: I remember you calling me and being like, dude, I'm
Speaker 1: not coming back, and I was like, what do you
Speaker 1: What are you not coming back to? What? Like, I
Speaker 1: have no idea what you're talking. I think we can
Speaker 1: pretty much at this point make a blanket, blanket statement
Speaker 1: that we were not informed. We were not like consulted
Speaker 1: or informed of anything that was happening with the show
Speaker 1: until we got a script in our hands, because we
Speaker 1: talked about it when we had Matthew Lawrence on the
Speaker 1: show too. When they brought matt Lawrence on, no nobody
Speaker 1: said to us like, hey, just you guys know there's
Speaker 1: going to be a new cast member. Not for anyone
Speaker 1: did the exception for that is Trina. For me, I
Speaker 1: did get for you with Trina. I did because they
Speaker 1: wanted me to do a chemistry to read with Trina,
Speaker 1: So they brought me in and they talked about bringing
Speaker 1: in a girlfriend from me, and I got to read
Speaker 1: with her before that season started. But were you told
Speaker 1: that she might be a regular on the show or
Speaker 1: that hey, we might just do like a four episode
Speaker 1: arc with a girlfriend for you. That's a good question.
Speaker 1: I don't remember. I just knew that it was going
Speaker 1: to be important story wise and characterized. I don't think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think they told me she was going to
Speaker 1: be a regular or not. Um And I don't remember
Speaker 1: she actually was a regular, because yeah, Danielle is right.
Speaker 1: I mean, we weren't told when Lee was gonna be gone.
Speaker 1: We weren't told when you know, Matt was going to
Speaker 1: be brought on. We weren't told when Tony was going
Speaker 1: to be gone, or when uh, anybody was was brought
Speaker 1: on or or left the show. It was just kind
Speaker 1: of like they just weren't there. I mean, Alex Alex
Speaker 1: days there was the same thing. It was just like
Speaker 1: he was there and then he was gone, and it
Speaker 1: was like what what's going on and you got kind
Speaker 1: of the pat on the head, like just be happy
Speaker 1: that you're on a show, kid kind of where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: the real I mean that the tragedy beyond the like
Speaker 1: the you know, lack of communication with actors, which maybe
Speaker 1: we can understand in the business side of this, which
Speaker 1: we can sort of excuse and say, like that's just
Speaker 1: the way it is. Story wise, Mr Turner makes no
Speaker 1: sense to not wrap up with Sean. And it's one
Speaker 1: of those dangling creative problems with Boyme's world that bothers
Speaker 1: are fans and it bothers me. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: one of those things we need to resolve this because
Speaker 1: the last time we saw him, he was in a
Speaker 1: hospital bed and I was praying to God after getting
Speaker 1: out of a cult. It's like this is this is
Speaker 1: about as intense and personal and like basically I'm asking
Speaker 1: for you know, God to save my father figure. I mean,
Speaker 1: that is awful. And it's the same way with Lee,
Speaker 1: like leaving him and we wish will him away and
Speaker 1: he disappears. These are dangling creatively story wise, uh, character
Speaker 1: investment wise, these are bad calls and like from it
Speaker 1: and like yeah, so beyond the personal like where's Tony?
Speaker 1: What happened? Now I can look back and be like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what happened to Mr Turner? This is right,
Speaker 1: Like this is not the way it should work, and
Speaker 1: it's it still bothers me that you know, and I
Speaker 1: know we had a moment on Girl Meets World when
Speaker 1: we crammed it in at the end. There that's a bummer. Man,
Speaker 1: it's a bummer like it deserves more story wise, you
Speaker 1: think it would. It would affect you, guys in terms
Speaker 1: of your performance and your energy on the show. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, this this character that's important or whatever
Speaker 1: is just gone. You would think that they would have
Speaker 1: some kind of consultation with you guys to say this
Speaker 1: is what we're thinking, Oh, this is what we're doing,
Speaker 1: and to not do that. It's like, but now you're
Speaker 1: you're sort of affecting your actors. You know. What's amazing
Speaker 1: is that when we talk about certain things, like when
Speaker 1: you know, we talked to Leon Norris and then we
Speaker 1: talked to a bunch of the writers and producers after
Speaker 1: Lee was written off the show, and so far all
Speaker 1: the most of the writers and producers have different stories
Speaker 1: like they weren't even given the same story of why
Speaker 1: somebody was taking off the show. So it's like you
Speaker 1: hear four different stories from four different people, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: one or two people made that they made this decision
Speaker 1: and nobody was consulted, and it's just the way it
Speaker 1: ended up being. Um and yeah, you're right. It's it's
Speaker 1: one thing where you write off a character likely which
Speaker 1: again we look back on and go, that was a travesty.
Speaker 1: He was so funny. There's so much comedy left on
Speaker 1: the table, but the character ended in a horrible way.
Speaker 1: But it is what it is. It's quite another when
Speaker 1: you're literally ending in a hospital bed where it's such
Speaker 1: a cliffhanger, like people were coming back is he dead?
Speaker 1: Is he alive? Plus plus? At that point, Boy Meets
Speaker 1: World started to become serialized, you know, like you can
Speaker 1: look at the first season and say, there's a less serialization.
Speaker 1: It's sort of a week to week we are chasing ratings,
Speaker 1: we have to make adjustments based on just you know,
Speaker 1: but by season three and four, you're talking about real
Speaker 1: developed storylines where characters have through arcs that go from
Speaker 1: episode to episode. So there I I really don't think
Speaker 1: there's much of an excuse. It's just it's just a
Speaker 1: bump um. Yeah, especially you're talking about important like life
Speaker 1: things like you know, it wasn't just right, I got
Speaker 1: Shan got a bad grade a history test. This is
Speaker 1: like his life is in the balance here because yes,
Speaker 1: we we had, didn't we have? There was a moment
Speaker 1: or something about you. I was trying to get you
Speaker 1: out of this cult. Yeah, and we I think there's
Speaker 1: a scene. I don't remember what it was, but there's
Speaker 1: like a scene with you and I in the classroom
Speaker 1: and I was literally trying to reach out and grab
Speaker 1: your hand, you know, trying to save you from this thing.
Speaker 1: So these are life decisions to just go. Yeah, never mind,
Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about that anymore. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just that. Yeah. Do you remember any any fan reaction
Speaker 1: at the time, Like, do you remember when then those episodes,
Speaker 1: your episodes, you're done and those episodes have stopped airing.
Speaker 1: Do you remember livetime fan reaction? No? No, because what
Speaker 1: happened for me was when I when I was told
Speaker 1: I wasn't coming back. Sadly enough, I just I was
Speaker 1: so busy trying to get other work that I just
Speaker 1: I actually quit watching the show because I was trying training,
Speaker 1: and then I wanted to I actually got that show
Speaker 1: at Fox, and uh we started doing that. So that's
Speaker 1: sort of all my time, and I don't really remember,
Speaker 1: but I do remember that probably ten years after that's
Speaker 1: when it started to really become an issue for like
Speaker 1: interactions with people going why didn't they bring you back?
Speaker 1: When then it was in reruns and people and in
Speaker 1: the internet was a thing, so everyone was communicating as
Speaker 1: a and basin saying wait. It also hugely affected us personally.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you and I didn't see each
Speaker 1: other for a while, a like we we did for
Speaker 1: a bit and then we then you start to see
Speaker 1: each other less. And last me, we were like inseparable.
Speaker 1: We were like best friends, and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: it was you know, I was your first call when
Speaker 1: you had your daughter, you know, so it was and
Speaker 1: your son, and so it was yeah, so it was
Speaker 1: just you'd go, it's like it's like a set relationship,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you'd go, we'd go
Speaker 1: a while and not see each other, and then we'd
Speaker 1: see each other again, and then we'd not see each
Speaker 1: other again, and so it was. It affected my life
Speaker 1: on so many different levels. That's the thing I remember
Speaker 1: most about it was it just it was more than
Speaker 1: just the story point, which is obviously huge, but it
Speaker 1: was it was also just I didn't get to see
Speaker 1: you all the time. It was it was such a
Speaker 1: different dynamic for me on the set then, because then
Speaker 1: I was once again kind of selfishly of course, turning
Speaker 1: this around and making about me, but was was then
Speaker 1: thrown back in the middle to where it was like,
Speaker 1: who do I hang out? You know, my my buddies gone?
Speaker 1: What do I do now? Well? And and to Tony
Speaker 1: to the point you were making about it possibly affecting
Speaker 1: the actors when we've you know, not only personally developed
Speaker 1: relationships with you, but character wise have developed such deep
Speaker 1: storylines with you, and um, you know, I think about
Speaker 1: the fact that especially Writer and I and Ben were
Speaker 1: you know, actual children twelve, thirteen years old, fourteen years old,
Speaker 1: fifteen year olds older. You are a child and um
Speaker 1: I know for me and I know obviously the relationship
Speaker 1: you had with Will, but you were one of the
Speaker 1: adults I put in the same category as David Trainer
Speaker 1: and then eventually Jeff McCracken when he came in in
Speaker 1: season three and season four, and of course Best Betsy
Speaker 1: and Rusty as well to a certain extent, but not
Speaker 1: quite to the same extent that I'm putting you in
Speaker 1: this category, which is the adults. I knew I was
Speaker 1: safe and bonded with like I was bonded with you,
Speaker 1: My parents were bonded with you. We knew each our
Speaker 1: families knew each other, and there was a um uh,
Speaker 1: you know in an adult in working environment when you
Speaker 1: are a child, the same way a child feels anywhere
Speaker 1: else in the world, but especially working with a bunch
Speaker 1: of adults where there's a lot of pressure on you.
Speaker 1: You are constantly looking for safety nets. The teachers also
Speaker 1: David Combs, Wesley Staples, people I knew I could go
Speaker 1: to and totally be myself, totally talk about whatever was
Speaker 1: going on, hardships, highs, lows, whatever was happening, and not
Speaker 1: being worried about my job security, just truthfully being myself.
Speaker 1: And um, I will also say the same friendships Leon
Speaker 1: Norris being gone. When you then as an actor, you wonder, well,
Speaker 1: why are we investing in these relationships with the people
Speaker 1: around us, both character wise and personally when at any
Speaker 1: point in time they're taken from us with no rhyme
Speaker 1: or reason, with no explanation, and it gives you, it
Speaker 1: really is rocks the foundation of um. It just you
Speaker 1: feel like you have no stability, and it's a it
Speaker 1: is a it's a crazy feeling, and it's also it's
Speaker 1: it's kind of lends itself to to what we were
Speaker 1: with the conversation we had with Trina, where it was
Speaker 1: kind of like you start to insulate yourself a little
Speaker 1: bit from other people around, and then you start to
Speaker 1: become more and more separated and then yourself. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it almost it can read as an animosity towards somebody
Speaker 1: else where. It's not that at all. It's just your
Speaker 1: what do they call him? And fight club, these single
Speaker 1: serving friends and it's like I don't know when this
Speaker 1: person is going to be gone, and I'm investing all
Speaker 1: my time and energy and then gone and all my
Speaker 1: all time and then gone. And then so you you
Speaker 1: start too, well am I going to be gone? Next?
Speaker 1: Am I? Get? And the conversation has become more stilted,
Speaker 1: and then it's like you don't talk the way you
Speaker 1: used to talk, and then all of a sudden, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we didn't like each other. It's like, no, it had
Speaker 1: nothing to do with that. What was it like for
Speaker 1: you coming back as Mr Turner on Girl Meets World? Um?
Speaker 1: I was really there's another another long story. Michael. Uh.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I don't have any social media
Speaker 1: or anything like that, but at the time I think
Speaker 1: I had like one or two that my son sort
Speaker 1: of told me to start and whatever. And at some
Speaker 1: point I started getting all these things on an Instagram
Speaker 1: thing and it was just like hundreds of them, and
Speaker 1: I'm going, Okay, something's wrong, because I mean I I
Speaker 1: don't know what I'm doing on this, and it just
Speaker 1: kept going congratulations and this is fantastic, and I'm going
Speaker 1: what And then at some point I heard somebody say
Speaker 1: something about Girl Meets World and this is gonna be great,
Speaker 1: and I went, I, I don't know what you're talking
Speaker 1: about Girl Meets World, and so as I certain heard
Speaker 1: something about Michael, so I emailed Michael and I go, oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, congratulations, you've caused my email to break
Speaker 1: and my Instagram. It's like it's like so and he's like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get together. So we go to lunch
Speaker 1: and he goes, I'd really like to have you come
Speaker 1: back on the show. I'm doing this new thing and
Speaker 1: it's a boy meeting a girl meets world. That's gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring all the characters back. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: now it all makes sense. No wonder people were, you know,
Speaker 1: hit me up on social media and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: And he goes, yeah, I want to bring you back.
Speaker 1: And I was nervous because I thought, you know, boy
Speaker 1: meets World for me and even for like all of
Speaker 1: you guys. I don't know how you felt about it,
Speaker 1: but it was like lightning in a bottle. And to
Speaker 1: try to go back and do it after I don't know,
Speaker 1: twenty years or whatever, I thought, oh, man, is this
Speaker 1: gonna Is it gonna work? And I gonna look stupid
Speaker 1: or you know, I hope I don't look that way.
Speaker 1: So I was nervous about it at first, but then
Speaker 1: I thought, well, I would love to be able to
Speaker 1: see all you guys, if just for that alone. Um.
Speaker 1: But and and when I did it, it felt like
Speaker 1: no time had passed, which is it was great. It
Speaker 1: was great. So that was my experience on that. It
Speaker 1: was just great to be with you guys. And I
Speaker 1: was just happy. By that point you and I had
Speaker 1: very much re established our friendship and had once again
Speaker 1: been golfing and bullying other thing that's taking each other.
Speaker 1: Jeff Jeff Sherman. Jeff Sherman was the one. He was.
Speaker 1: We somehow we had gotten together and he goes, hand,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go to lunch. And he goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell will you said. I'm like, go wait, wait
Speaker 1: what I said, Wilfrid. Now he goes, yeah. I talked
Speaker 1: to him all the time. I was like, oh, stop it,
Speaker 1: and I was like give him my number and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. Yeah, he was the one that started that
Speaker 1: whole thing. And we were right back in the no
Speaker 1: pun intended on the golf course, right back in the
Speaker 1: swing of things, Tony, Tony hitting beautiful shots, me peeling
Speaker 1: it off somewhere swearing and him going, no, you're doing great,
Speaker 1: You're doing great. That's that's what. Well, to wrap this
Speaker 1: up a little bit, what when you look back at
Speaker 1: your time on Boy Meets World, what are your feelings,
Speaker 1: what are your thoughts? How do you how do you
Speaker 1: think about it now? When you look back at that time. Uh,
Speaker 1: it was. It was one of the best times of
Speaker 1: my life professionally for sure. Um. There have been some
Speaker 1: people that I have worked with that have become my
Speaker 1: favorite people to work with. Willie Garson was one of
Speaker 1: my ever people to work with. UM and when he
Speaker 1: when he passed away, it was really hard for me.
Speaker 1: But you guys, like you said, Daniel, we had become
Speaker 1: a family. You were like my family. So the time
Speaker 1: that I was able to share with you guys and
Speaker 1: be on that show was one of the best times
Speaker 1: professionally that I've ever had. Um. It was such a
Speaker 1: joy to be part of that show and part of
Speaker 1: your lives and to be able to work together like that.
Speaker 1: Now did I think years later that it would mean
Speaker 1: so much to so many people. I didn't really see that,
Speaker 1: But for me that that was It's just one of
Speaker 1: the most satisfying times creatively, uh and professionally. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a great time. I got emotional. Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: get me started. Holy mackerel. Yeah, between the two of you. God, yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, let's not talk about this because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go We're going there, you go, all right, So let
Speaker 1: me ask you real quick, just real quick, what is
Speaker 1: your favorite memory from the show? All of you favorite memory?
Speaker 1: Just like instinctively, what's your favorite memory? Oh man, like
Speaker 1: a moment that stands out that you go, I always
Speaker 1: thought this was fun for me. It's easy, easy, what's
Speaker 1: your easy? Peasy? My favorite memory of the show, I
Speaker 1: could what And there's two of them, and it's a tie.
Speaker 1: The first one is the scene where you're trying to
Speaker 1: get Danielle and you're hiding in the couch and out
Speaker 1: takes the outtakes from that moment. You guys are all
Speaker 1: so funny in that scene. I could watch that over
Speaker 1: and over and over and still laugh because it's also
Speaker 1: just Will being Will, and it's so clearly ourselves. That's
Speaker 1: what being backstage was like. I mean, that's what I think.
Speaker 1: That's why I think it speaks to the audience too,
Speaker 1: is because they get a little glimpse of what it
Speaker 1: was like at our set all the time. We were
Speaker 1: always laughing that hard. We were laughing to tears every day.
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the thing. It's really hard to pinpoint
Speaker 1: one memory because it's just I just that's what I
Speaker 1: think of. It's like laughing to tears. It's also changed
Speaker 1: for me a little bit. Like I would have said
Speaker 1: the Scream episode episodes where I remember us laughing so much,
Speaker 1: but lately, like if I think about the show, I
Speaker 1: think about our pre show scream, like how do we
Speaker 1: get together and do our screen before the audience introductions?
Speaker 1: And I just go, what a magical special thing that
Speaker 1: only we share Because other people can watch those episodes
Speaker 1: and they can see those moments and see but like
Speaker 1: that is a private moment for our group, and that
Speaker 1: is as I've gotten older, I cherished that as as
Speaker 1: like a memory that I just that, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's not even one specific time. It's just that vibe
Speaker 1: of like we're about to do a show and we're
Speaker 1: gonna kill it tonight and we're gonna trust one another
Speaker 1: and such a good feeling. Yeah. Yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: couple my my on camera one would be just for
Speaker 1: me as an actor, would have been the There's Two,
Speaker 1: the first time I got the big laugh that took
Speaker 1: forever that night, throwing the fertilizer with Carry Russell. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the scene where Bill messed up his line
Speaker 1: and gave me the compliment as an actor, those are
Speaker 1: two very important things to me. Off camera, you and
Speaker 1: I shooting shotguns inside a strip mall. We go to
Speaker 1: the So they had this place, which we still don't
Speaker 1: know how it was legal. I'm half convinced we just
Speaker 1: made it up in our heads. A place called the
Speaker 1: north Ridge Pistol and Rifle Range where you'd walk in
Speaker 1: and there's it was like they'd hand you a large
Speaker 1: rifle and go go at it in the middle like
Speaker 1: a strip mall. Literally yeah, And it was us looking
Speaker 1: at each other going like is this okay? Um? So
Speaker 1: we just had those and writers right, we would We
Speaker 1: came to a point where nine of our conversation was
Speaker 1: spoken in quotes like we just did you touch me?
Speaker 1: And so it's moments like what is that from? That's
Speaker 1: from the thing that recently? And Tony would do that
Speaker 1: occasionly out of nowhere. He would just turn to me
Speaker 1: and like I'd be like, let's go and I go
Speaker 1: to put my hand on me, turn around and go
Speaker 1: you touch me? We go. And it was stuff like
Speaker 1: that all the time. You guys spoke your own language.
Speaker 1: We did. We were usually gonna go I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: the Jurassic Park thing going, you can have dinosaurs. I'm
Speaker 1: the dinosaur. Oh man, do I hate that? Man? Yes,
Speaker 1: that's what we did. That's we go by. It was
Speaker 1: so old school. We go buy laser discs and all
Speaker 1: you know Dave's laser. It was in the valley. It
Speaker 1: was easy. And these guys were like, because you know,
Speaker 1: I started getting into movies like way later than you two,
Speaker 1: So you guys were like my mentors. I remember you
Speaker 1: taking me and being like, this is the TV you
Speaker 1: need to buy. I think I spent four thousand fives
Speaker 1: it was five because we all got the same all
Speaker 1: the same TV, that big real projection. And then I
Speaker 1: got my I got a double sided laser disclayer so
Speaker 1: I didn't have to turn over my copy of Braveheart.
Speaker 1: Laser Disky would just turn over for me. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I was Yes, it was watch those movies. He is
Speaker 1: an absolute encyclopedia. I could quote some random movie and
Speaker 1: he would he would say who do the acting was
Speaker 1: and what the movie was, and then and they quote
Speaker 1: all the lines around. Yeah. It was Yeah, how I
Speaker 1: miss you, Tony. I hope you will you come back?
Speaker 1: Will you come back with us later in season two?
Speaker 1: Of course? Will you get back? And recap an episode
Speaker 1: with us. Of course I would love to do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah we okay, great, we have to pick up Good
Speaker 1: Turner episode of season two. Oh yeah, also say you're
Speaker 1: not on much social media, but I know you do cameo,
Speaker 1: So if anybody wants to get a cameo from Tony Quinn,
Speaker 1: you got me started on that. Thank you for that,
Speaker 1: because it's been really great interacting with people and the fans.
Speaker 1: They're the best fans, the most complimentary things. Crying. Sometimes
Speaker 1: people will say something to me that's so touching that
Speaker 1: it just it brings tears to my eyes. Yeah, yeah, same,
Speaker 1: We've we've all been there multiple times. Well, I cannot
Speaker 1: thank you enough for being here with us. It was
Speaker 1: so good to see you. I love you as always,
Speaker 1: UM thrilled to have you here, and I'm so happy
Speaker 1: that you agreed to come back. We can't wait to
Speaker 1: do it again. Awesome. Thank you guys. I love you
Speaker 1: Paul so much. Big hugs. That is from that is
Speaker 1: from Trading Places. Uh that was Eddie Murphy said that line.
Speaker 1: It is then followed by dan Ackroyd coming in, well
Speaker 1: it's actually no, it's actually boy me tell story. It
Speaker 1: is actually followed by the print sabole who comes on
Speaker 1: to our set. Paul Coffee. Wasn't that his name? No?
Speaker 1: He was who was also Paul's. He was the principal
Speaker 1: in Back to the u in Um Breakfast Club. He
Speaker 1: came onto our set and his next line is happy
Speaker 1: it's in this country. We say happy New Year. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Excase. Yes, oh I miss you Tony, Well,
Speaker 1: I miss you so much. I'll talk to you guys.
Speaker 1: So yeah, please I will take care of guys. Buddy
Speaker 1: oh man reunions. We must be crazy. So his kids
Speaker 1: are in their twenties. Uh Andy is married and Romans
Speaker 1: in the military. Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean
Speaker 1: Andy was born on the show. Yeah, we were on
Speaker 1: the show. He was because he called me that night.
Speaker 1: He called me. I was the first call for both
Speaker 1: his kids. So then she's almost thirty. Yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: recently married. And you know, because I I would say,
Speaker 1: Rusty's daughter was probably one of the first like babies
Speaker 1: I was around, or kids I was around, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, and like and I remember Tony's kids too,
Speaker 1: because you know, I didn't have a huge extended family,
Speaker 1: so like people having babies around me and like those
Speaker 1: are the kids I remember hanging out with and you know,
Speaker 1: that's so funny, and he is that what you see
Speaker 1: is what you get. He is one of the most
Speaker 1: beautiful people I've ever met in my life. He's been
Speaker 1: that since the first day I met him. He's never
Speaker 1: been different him telling that story, that's how he tells it.
Speaker 1: It doesn't ever come off as bitter. It's just like,
Speaker 1: this is what happened. Um, And that's Tony. I mean,
Speaker 1: it doesn't hold grudges. He's a very he's a as
Speaker 1: my wife would say, his unicorn. He's a very rare person.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy and hugely important to me. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: this has been another incredible episode. If I do say so,
Speaker 1: we're killing it incredible. Thank you for joining us for
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Speaker 1: That's what that was. I love it. Which you can
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Speaker 1: us for our next episode, which is when we will
Speaker 1: be recapping episode two O two. Season two episode two
Speaker 1: called Pairing Off, which originally aired September, and Yeah, can't
Speaker 1: wait to see how the second episode of the season
Speaker 1: compares to the first episode of the season where we
Speaker 1: were all a little uncomfortable. We love you all, pod dismissed.
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