Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventy, episode
Speaker 1: one of Dirty Guys production of I Heart Radio. This
Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into
Speaker 1: America's shared consciousness. Is Monday, January nine, three, which of
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna shouts out to Michael Jordan every time and
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Speaker 1: International Choreographers Day five, six, seven, and eight. Get into it.
Speaker 1: Hit that coreo, National Balloon Ascension Day, National NAW, the
Speaker 1: law enforcement of National Clean off your Desk Day. I
Speaker 1: will never do that, National Apricot Day, and National Static
Speaker 1: Electricity Day. Hell yeah, yeah, feeling that balloons and static
Speaker 1: electricity they go together. So there's something yeah, sent and
Speaker 1: day just like let your balloons go well, the images
Speaker 1: of all hot air balloons. So it commemorates the first
Speaker 1: balloon flights in the United States in all we had
Speaker 1: for a little while. Yeah, not not in my lifetime, okay,
Speaker 1: I name. People like to suggest that I was around
Speaker 1: for a pre Wright Brothers era of air travel. Not true,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they used to do like scouting missions in
Speaker 1: the civil war and hot air balloons. That's how it's
Speaker 1: just bad at everything. Everyone was so they would just
Speaker 1: like take it, take it up and be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I think, what do you see battlefield from over here?
Speaker 1: It looks pretty gruesome. It seems easy to chew out
Speaker 1: with this guy. Anyways. My name, well it's Jack O'Brien a.
Speaker 1: When you're on a ha day, you might find a
Speaker 1: price to pay all that drink and mountain do. The
Speaker 1: sugar will grow on you on an island in the sun.
Speaker 1: Get these plumpers, big as fuck. Sugar makes me feel
Speaker 1: so fine I can't control my brain. Hip hip that
Speaker 1: is courtesy oh Lex LUVII, Mr Ubus. Appreciate you, man,
Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
Speaker 1: co host Mr Miles Miles Greg. Okay, I love Jerry's pizzeria.
Speaker 1: I love Lambeaux a ba ball. When I tweeted this
Speaker 1: to Greta, she said, I got tying your balls. I'm
Speaker 1: the Manispee Messiah, I'm the king of all the clowns.
Speaker 1: But they put my ass in halcuffs Andday took me down. Okay,
Speaker 1: shout out to shift in Er and Tate or Andrew Tate,
Speaker 1: whatever your name is, Peace out to you. It's Miles great.
Speaker 1: Thank you to Salvador Jolly on the discord. And also
Speaker 1: I want to give it a little announcement. I have
Speaker 1: a bit of a new a k a. That I'm
Speaker 1: going to be entering soon. Okay, call me big Daddy Gray,
Speaker 1: father of this child. Because look, I've been keeping it low,
Speaker 1: but some of you who follow you know, people on
Speaker 1: social media, may have found out that I am expecting
Speaker 1: my first child and I'm very excited. Uh it could
Speaker 1: happen quite literally at any moment. So if I suddenly
Speaker 1: take off for parental leave, know that it's to celebrate
Speaker 1: my impending parenthood. So shout out to her majesty as well.
Speaker 1: Very exciting to the both of you. Thank the parents.
Speaker 1: Thank you. And this is not a joke. I don't
Speaker 1: have the time. I say ship. Since you're on here,
Speaker 1: people go oh, I thought he was sucking around. No,
Speaker 1: I feel like, looks, I can people recognize that you're
Speaker 1: a funny person who wouldn't tell an unfunny joke. It's
Speaker 1: like bad dude, And I'm like, have a kid, good one? Alright?
Speaker 1: What else? What else? What else? I do? Appreciate that
Speaker 1: you waited for just the right Andrew t a K
Speaker 1: to announce. I don't know why. A part of me
Speaker 1: was like, do I do that? But I also had
Speaker 1: my eye on this a K. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta hit that out the way too well, but
Speaker 1: I'll just hit the man up with some good uh fatherhood. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so exactly have to. Yeah. Also, man, I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: every moment I have in my house where like it's quiet,
Speaker 1: I'm realized, it's the last time my house is gonna
Speaker 1: sound like that. You know what. It's actually pretty quiet
Speaker 1: in the early months because the baby sleeps a lot.
Speaker 1: I guess they're kind of like I like it. I
Speaker 1: was liking it, likning into somebody like I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm in like saving private Ryan, Like on a D
Speaker 1: Day landing craft. We're like we're about to hit the
Speaker 1: shore and I'm like, yo, it's coming, it's coming. But
Speaker 1: I'm like kissing my cross and ship like here we
Speaker 1: call and just in a room quietly by yourself, shouting
Speaker 1: let's go. That's like everything all right, and then that's
Speaker 1: fucking go. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry, Anyways, appropriate we may not
Speaker 1: be the most appropriate a K for that announcement, but
Speaker 1: we have the most appropriate guests. We're thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by one of the classics,
Speaker 1: an early guest, one of one of our favorites, one
Speaker 1: of your favoritess been way too long since he's been on.
Speaker 1: He's a hilarious actor improviser who writes on TV shows
Speaker 1: like Grand Crew, video Games, TV shows about video games.
Speaker 1: Please welcome thought dead trademark. It's if he want away, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: a k A. If he should coo. Every time I
Speaker 1: check my bank account, if he should coo, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: even believe my bank amount. If he should cool, I
Speaker 1: kept coming up the home goddamn my amount. If he
Speaker 1: should goog, I made it. And sometimes I forget that
Speaker 1: I'm famous, just like I'm Amos. Turn around. It's the
Speaker 1: worst little Ouzi first two he ruined a baby Team song.
Speaker 1: But beside that, beside that bar, it's it's actually the worst,
Speaker 1: just bar the verse itself. Okay that bar. He made
Speaker 1: a famous Amos reference in the Year of Our Lord.
Speaker 1: But yes, I'm here, dad in me sees the dad
Speaker 1: in You're like to pack my kids lunch. You're right,
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm laying for school, You're like, hold on,
Speaker 1: let me put on. I just want to rock by
Speaker 1: LUSI very ready for this one boo boo that that
Speaker 1: song goes that being as good as it is, but
Speaker 1: it is. I have a question for your dad's out
Speaker 1: here is it? Do you how often are you like
Speaker 1: when when you're trying to like rock a baby, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Are you? Do you ever just
Speaker 1: wrap a verse? Like because I feel like people have
Speaker 1: baby appropriate songs, but I have so many rap verses
Speaker 1: memorized that I feel like if a summit it, I
Speaker 1: could be like, you know, I could just lean into it,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's my baby. I rock a fly
Speaker 1: baby in the summertime for sure. Okay. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: look they're they're so young, they're not even gonna remember
Speaker 1: all the words you're using. So you can just go
Speaker 1: full explicit on that rock in the first few years,
Speaker 1: pretend I know the whole rap god verse by eminem
Speaker 1: You don't always spending that ship perfect when you were
Speaker 1: a baby. Yeah, you just don't remember it because you Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely like more of my brain is Dr
Speaker 1: Seuss ship now, Like I just realized, actually, like we
Speaker 1: were waiting in the line somewhere and we started doing
Speaker 1: I don't know, like some silly you know ship, and
Speaker 1: I realized, I know all of doctors who's ABC's like
Speaker 1: by heart you can just like spit that back, which
Speaker 1: is not like that hard. You already know what order
Speaker 1: it comes in because of because it's the But yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of rhymes that started taking up space
Speaker 1: that used to be occupied by ghost face us. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure, A TOWI a Talian music down the river
Speaker 1: with your chick clinging, like like that's that's gone now,
Speaker 1: that's right if you how are you doing? Man, it's
Speaker 1: been way too long. Yeah, I know it's been way
Speaker 1: too long. It's you know, I've been trying to squeeze
Speaker 1: in here between gigs. But like it really was a
Speaker 1: quick runner last year because I was doing Twisted Metal
Speaker 1: at the top of the year, and then right after
Speaker 1: Twisted Metal is back in Grand Crew. But now I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I'm chilling. Um, you know, you know, you're
Speaker 1: developing some stuff, you know, inside baseball. But you know,
Speaker 1: now I have free time. I've been dying to come
Speaker 1: on the pods and it's now is the perfect time.
Speaker 1: Because I think if I would have went in when
Speaker 1: I was like right after the room, when I was
Speaker 1: just like, you know, like neck deep in writing a
Speaker 1: TV show and not coming up for air. But now
Speaker 1: you know, I'm back on my gym routine and part
Speaker 1: of my gym routine, which you know this If you
Speaker 1: don't know this already, uh you know ZiT gang. If
Speaker 1: you are on Spotify, you can do the Daily Drive.
Speaker 1: That's that's my ship. And what they do when you
Speaker 1: do the Daily Drive is they mix in the NPR
Speaker 1: kind of like Daily up first, and then it goes
Speaker 1: into your your music playlist and then they'll pick like
Speaker 1: a you know podcast that's your vibe. I think they
Speaker 1: figured out that I'm a leftist, so then it goes
Speaker 1: to marketplace. Then it'll place more playlists, and then if
Speaker 1: you come back in the day, you'll get the updates
Speaker 1: with nprs kind of up next updates, which is great.
Speaker 1: So why are you trying to hold on? Man? I
Speaker 1: just told you I was having a kid, and you're
Speaker 1: trying to take money out of his mouth. Okay right there,
Speaker 1: because you know we have a morning show too, and
Speaker 1: then we will update you later in the day. I
Speaker 1: also give music recommendations. But yes, hut oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that other I know. But you know, definitely, uh
Speaker 1: because when I was my deep pod one, I was
Speaker 1: I was double dipping, uh, you know, listening to y'all
Speaker 1: listening to this. And but also I do think Spotify
Speaker 1: doesn't need to get the t d Z because y'all
Speaker 1: would fit the vibe more because it is funny having
Speaker 1: to go for um mprs, you know, toned to like
Speaker 1: baby Kam and I'm like that this would never be
Speaker 1: on KPCC or whatever you're listening like. They are never
Speaker 1: gonna be like, Okay, the needle Drop after Ira Glass,
Speaker 1: It's gonna be there trying to do it sometimes and
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing. It is jarring, Whereas like if the needle
Speaker 1: Drop came off off of us, you'd be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. I mean we we go out on
Speaker 1: some bangers. So um yeah, if you work in Spotify,
Speaker 1: definitely let them know to get t d Z in
Speaker 1: that data. Let them know that that's my kind to
Speaker 1: make up for what I just did. I'm definitely gonna
Speaker 1: see what I can do to pull some strings. Also,
Speaker 1: Grand crewel is dope. I gotta tell you. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I can consitantly say this next season is gonna be funnier,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think you know, if you if
Speaker 1: you're like I feel like when you're in the city
Speaker 1: and you're tapped in, everyone kind of knows. That first
Speaker 1: season is kind of more establishing everyone's relationships and know
Speaker 1: and second season we were able to just go, like,
Speaker 1: what's the funniest ship we can do? I feel like
Speaker 1: you guys were able to get to that pretty quickly though, Like,
Speaker 1: oh no, after like the first few if the show
Speaker 1: really fucking caught its stride. And I still love that
Speaker 1: Pipe Jerry or Jerry pipe joke. I don't know who
Speaker 1: wrote that one, but yeah, that was that was. I
Speaker 1: forget who did that, But what I do remember is
Speaker 1: I was trying so hard to be pipe Jerry I was.
Speaker 1: I was like, and then when they when we saw
Speaker 1: pipe Jerry, I was like, no, y'all got the right one,
Speaker 1: because boys buff, but that guy was shredded. That was Jerry.
Speaker 1: That was Wait, tell the pipe Jerry joke? What is it? Oh?
Speaker 1: So Nikki and her phone has uh pipe Jerry and
Speaker 1: Jerry pipe. One is a handyman, one is a stripper,
Speaker 1: and she calls the stripper up when she wanted the handyman,
Speaker 1: but he comes in as a handyman, so you think
Speaker 1: it's him, and he just starts getting it. He's I
Speaker 1: just loved Jerry Pipe and pipe to find balance. Yes,
Speaker 1: all right, if you were going to get to know
Speaker 1: you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're
Speaker 1: gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're
Speaker 1: talking about. We're gonna talk about this Southwest Airlines meltdown
Speaker 1: story that happened over the three weeks that we were out.
Speaker 1: But there's been some investigative journalism that revealed that this
Speaker 1: was like widely foreseen and everybody was hitting up. So
Speaker 1: Pete Budha Judge as the Secretary of Transportation, like he
Speaker 1: directly oversees the ship. He is the one person who's
Speaker 1: in charge of regulating the airlines, and people have been
Speaker 1: hitting him up because the basically the same ship happened
Speaker 1: about a year ago to Southwest. People been hitting him
Speaker 1: up to like regulate, to do something about that, and
Speaker 1: he just ignored, ignored, ignored. So we're gonna talk about that,
Speaker 1: and also how the mainstream media like ignored that story,
Speaker 1: ignored the investigative journalism and just kind of the state
Speaker 1: of the you know, mainstream left center left media that
Speaker 1: is just like kind of becoming I don't know, they're
Speaker 1: playing right into Fox's hands. So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: Then we'll talk about Fox being just a fucking mess.
Speaker 1: We might talk about some overall like there's some suing
Speaker 1: of big corporations happening, so some good news maybe with
Speaker 1: regulating the free market ak just rich people getting to
Speaker 1: do whatever the funk they want. And then we'll talk
Speaker 1: about the trend on Netflix where they keep canceling their
Speaker 1: top shows, Like a show will be number two in
Speaker 1: their top ten list and then they'll like cancel it
Speaker 1: a week later. So we'll talk about why that's happening
Speaker 1: plenty Moore, But first if he we do like to
Speaker 1: ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean looking at my search history right now, like
Speaker 1: at Universal Tickets, Shabari, new Dom Tips, Dom Tips, Mammoth, Homie,
Speaker 1: Adam Shots, the Skyroom Special Edition Resolution and Fix, and
Speaker 1: I think we'll focus on that. I've been playing sky Rim,
Speaker 1: uh you know, I've been running it back on sky Rim.
Speaker 1: By running it back, I mean my first time playing it.
Speaker 1: That's been my biggest game of blind Spot for years,
Speaker 1: and I'm really hyped at how excited people have been,
Speaker 1: Like there's been a lot of new viewers on Twitch
Speaker 1: because I've been doing it as a Twitch kind of
Speaker 1: play along and didn't realize how much the fervor of
Speaker 1: the Skyrin fandom would be because they're like, oh, we
Speaker 1: get to see someone play our favorite game for the
Speaker 1: first time and that, and so it's been fun for
Speaker 1: that reason. But it also is funny because you're now
Speaker 1: playing a game where everyone knows how everything happens. They
Speaker 1: know when you're doing the wrong thing and the right thing,
Speaker 1: but they're very much real chill about it, being like
Speaker 1: do what you think it's right, do what you think.
Speaker 1: But and sometimes they'll be like, oh, okay, you chose that,
Speaker 1: but it's really that yeah, exactly. It's it's like a
Speaker 1: fun way to play a game that I've never are
Speaker 1: really considered because either either I'm playing a game as
Speaker 1: it has been out, or I'm playing like Call of
Speaker 1: Duty or Apex, which you can just kind of play
Speaker 1: any anyway. So I've been having a good time for it.
Speaker 1: Minor plug if you if that sounds tied to you.
Speaker 1: Definitely been doing it on Twitch and if you don't
Speaker 1: want to, uh wait around to while I'm doing and
Speaker 1: I do plan on like making it a neat video
Speaker 1: for you to just kind of go through and check
Speaker 1: out in the past. Room come out like you're looking
Speaker 1: at it. I was like, yo, Skyroom came out like
Speaker 1: three years ago, right four years ago, remember, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I just somehow missed it and I looked at it,
Speaker 1: and it was because it was between Fallout three and
Speaker 1: New Vegas and I was big in a Fallout which
Speaker 1: is why Skyroom is such a layup. Because they're both
Speaker 1: by Betheta. They're both kind of open world exploration games
Speaker 1: that lets you kind of play it however you want.
Speaker 1: The only difference is one is fantasy, one is post apocalyptic.
Speaker 1: But I think what happened was Three just bled into
Speaker 1: New Vegas for me, So I just didn't even look
Speaker 1: at Skyrim. I was like, all in, so it's been
Speaker 1: fun and it just you know, I didn't there was
Speaker 1: no worry if I wasn't gonna like it, but it is,
Speaker 1: uh super fun to play this game and kind of
Speaker 1: like you know, you run through one of the classics yeah,
Speaker 1: happened to people's nostalgia, Like I feel like that, man,
Speaker 1: I should do. I'm like, I'm like for two hours
Speaker 1: short of finishing Last of Us and like now this
Speaker 1: show and like I know how it ends, but I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: I need to go back through that. But I get
Speaker 1: the whole nostalgia thing of Like I love watching people
Speaker 1: listen to Rage against the Machine for the first times.
Speaker 1: Are YouTube reaction videos I love seeing, Like I love
Speaker 1: actally watching black people listen who have not listened to
Speaker 1: Rage here rage for the first time, and they're like,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on, he said he's going
Speaker 1: down Rodeo with a shotgun. These people ain't seen a
Speaker 1: brown skin, answers their grandparents bought one. Oh no, what
Speaker 1: is this? And I'm like, yes, read it in breathing,
Speaker 1: So I totally I can totally see how video game
Speaker 1: people are getting that same kick. Oh yeah. So that's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's truly truly fun, especially if you're enjoying it. I
Speaker 1: think I listened to a podcast once where somebody was
Speaker 1: like watching Jaws for the first time, and I was
Speaker 1: just like, this is stupid, Like what is and I
Speaker 1: was looking, yeah, anyways, what is something you think is
Speaker 1: over it, i'mnna explained because it's gonna seem basic, and
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna explain. Uh so the overrated that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say is trying to be different. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's we started off three, We're getting to all these
Speaker 1: end of the year list and I'm so fucking tired
Speaker 1: of reading all these film bros trying so hard not
Speaker 1: to pick everything everywhere all at once. And you know,
Speaker 1: you know it happens every year, but there just is
Speaker 1: something a very special stank on my tongue with it
Speaker 1: when it comes for this like Asian lead film that
Speaker 1: you don't want to pretend this time. We saw it
Speaker 1: kind of happened with Parasite. But I think they're trying
Speaker 1: extra hard. I do think that it's probably people who
Speaker 1: didn't go to Emmerson because that definitely was the Emmerson
Speaker 1: Mafia movie, and they really are like, nah, I went
Speaker 1: to USC film school. I cannot give this film its flower,
Speaker 1: but but you know, we see it every year and
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of it and I and I just
Speaker 1: mean it in general, like I like that was something
Speaker 1: I did in high school. I think I might have
Speaker 1: said this story before on the pod. I think I
Speaker 1: might have had this take before on the pod because
Speaker 1: it is a take that just needs to I just
Speaker 1: want to have to stop saying it. But if everybody
Speaker 1: likes something, and you don't have to dislike it because
Speaker 1: it doesn't make you cooler. Like I said, I didn't
Speaker 1: listen to M F. Doom for so long because everyone
Speaker 1: would like him, and I was trying to be different.
Speaker 1: And that's one of the biggest regrets of my life
Speaker 1: because I remember I got the Food Special Edition and
Speaker 1: it had a show at the Knitting Factory in l
Speaker 1: A back when that was still a thing, and I
Speaker 1: was like, real hype. I was like, Oh, I gotta
Speaker 1: go to this, and then I realized it was years
Speaker 1: old because I got it, you know, I got it
Speaker 1: so late, and I've never been able to see him
Speaker 1: live and I never will. All because why I was
Speaker 1: trying to be, you know, different. I was trying to
Speaker 1: go against the grain. And if you know, if you
Speaker 1: genuinely do not like it, then that's fine too, but
Speaker 1: also don't think that. I also think that, you know,
Speaker 1: you don't need to shoot on people who do like
Speaker 1: it and pretend like you know, you are the the
Speaker 1: taste of movie. Because if you're saying everything everywhere, all
Speaker 1: at once wasn't your favorite, but your top movie is
Speaker 1: a white lead, white written, white created movie, then you're
Speaker 1: whacked to me because I'm sorry, like I gotta say, look,
Speaker 1: white people that got some hits. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: we know, we know white people got some hits, But
Speaker 1: I don't think they got there. I don't think they
Speaker 1: got the crown last year. Simply put, don't think they
Speaker 1: got the crown. I think that comes from like the
Speaker 1: just not wanting to be one of it, like they're
Speaker 1: There's something that I think at first, if you don't
Speaker 1: like spend time with it, the idea that there are
Speaker 1: a billion other people on the planet and you're just
Speaker 1: one of them can be upset. And again, I think
Speaker 1: that comes from that place like you wanting to deny
Speaker 1: or at least like get some momentary feeling that like
Speaker 1: you're different. But like if you if you spend time
Speaker 1: with the fact that you're one of eight billion people
Speaker 1: and just like kind of accept that, there there's like
Speaker 1: a joy in that of like you you're part of
Speaker 1: a communal human experience and like you're all enjoying the
Speaker 1: same thing at the same time. But yeah, I used
Speaker 1: to have that. I used to be like, I don't
Speaker 1: like them anymore because they everybody else likes them. So
Speaker 1: I like the white stripes. Well I saw them in
Speaker 1: a bar when there's only like twenty people there, So
Speaker 1: now I think they're whack because everybody likes them only
Speaker 1: focused Dola white Label final Stock. You're right down is
Speaker 1: that it's that thing, and I think it's say, you know,
Speaker 1: even more so, which I'm sure we'll dip into this
Speaker 1: thought process more because I've been thinking about a lot lately,
Speaker 1: just another one of those you know, American individualism type
Speaker 1: things where it's like I have to be the guy.
Speaker 1: I like, why would I be the same as anyone?
Speaker 1: I must be the different person, and it's like the okay, cool.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when you see somebody be like
Speaker 1: this person stole my tweet, and like, there are a
Speaker 1: lot of tweet thieves. I've seen it happen to me.
Speaker 1: I've seen it to happen to a lot of But
Speaker 1: sometimes I'm like, oh no, that's just a basic idea,
Speaker 1: especially when it's like a retweeted, you know, response to
Speaker 1: something where it's like, well, that's bound to happen. Y'all
Speaker 1: are working off of the same prompt, y'all are you
Speaker 1: know y'all are working off the same prompt. We all
Speaker 1: kind of live in the same reality. There's gonna be
Speaker 1: some overlap and the I learned that very quickly when
Speaker 1: I worked on At Midnight, because when we were writing
Speaker 1: for that show, all the writers were writing into a
Speaker 1: doc so we weren't like, we didn't know what jokes
Speaker 1: everyone was doing. And one of the big things we
Speaker 1: had to do was go over and get rid of duplicates,
Speaker 1: because if you're working from the same prompt, you're gonna
Speaker 1: land on the same punchline like very often. So I think,
Speaker 1: I think this idea that like, and if I came
Speaker 1: up with an idea, it's original, and no one could
Speaker 1: ever have this same idea. It's just false. And sometimes
Speaker 1: if somebody you know, stole the thing, if it is
Speaker 1: not very clear and personal to you, maybe they I think,
Speaker 1: give people the benefit of the doubt. Let's not make
Speaker 1: it Twitter more of a battle ground than it already.
Speaker 1: And also like, just let your fucking eagle go, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, that's the only reason people, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get so turned up being like, well, that's not me,
Speaker 1: because it wouldn't be me over here saying that objectively,
Speaker 1: the best film of the year was this film, like
Speaker 1: it's got to be different because that's my identity or whatever.
Speaker 1: Let that ship cool, because that's purely how it operated,
Speaker 1: like as a team. Like in my twenties was like,
Speaker 1: my ship is different. I will never be like and
Speaker 1: it was really just because I was angry at a
Speaker 1: bunch of ship rather than like kind of I guess
Speaker 1: more energetically like acknowledging, like yeah, man, all good, Like
Speaker 1: you could like what you like. I like what I like.
Speaker 1: That doesn't make me cooler. That doesn't make you cooler,
Speaker 1: because I think the other thing too is you get
Speaker 1: caught up in people's opinions. Are like, oh the cool
Speaker 1: people think this or that, and now I want to
Speaker 1: be like that. Just do you much easier, much less stressed,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Yeah, all right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break, we'll come back, we'll hear what you're underrated,
Speaker 1: and we're back and if he as you know, we
Speaker 1: like to ask our guests not just what's overratable, what's underrated?
Speaker 1: What's something you think is underrated. Boy, boy, boy, let
Speaker 1: me let me tell you we're staying. This is gonna
Speaker 1: be a very cinephile over under for me because I
Speaker 1: gotta put on Nanny. It's called Nanny Nothing Nanny. It
Speaker 1: came out last year. I saw that Sun Dance. It
Speaker 1: was directed by Nick yahto JUICEU, and it's about an
Speaker 1: African woman who hopes her new job as a nanny
Speaker 1: will help bring her young son to the United States.
Speaker 1: And it's this like very like I was just I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say, it's like a thriller slash whorese. It's very
Speaker 1: slow paced, taps into African mythology once it really gets going,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of beautiful visuals. Shout out to
Speaker 1: Rena Yang who did the cinematography. And I think it
Speaker 1: kind of flew under the radar. To me, it was
Speaker 1: the best film that came out of Sundance that year.
Speaker 1: And then you know it was Amazon who bought it,
Speaker 1: so it was on Prime Video, which you know they
Speaker 1: if it ain't Jack Reacher, you ain't gonna hear about uh.
Speaker 1: You know, good just just disappears, goes there to not exist.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's like they put budget in like promoting
Speaker 1: like three shows, like we knew about Ring of Power,
Speaker 1: we knew about the Wheel of Time, and we know
Speaker 1: about Jack Reacher. But are so many movies that go
Speaker 1: there that fly into the radar. So if you have
Speaker 1: Prime video, which I'm sure you probably do because we
Speaker 1: all have Prime even though we don't funk with bezos
Speaker 1: like that. We like getting our ship in two days
Speaker 1: that you just can't beat it. And like I said, bezos,
Speaker 1: if you want to wint us over, use that money
Speaker 1: and solve world hunger, stop using the lip service. I
Speaker 1: love that he did read the room though he was like,
Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm getting rid of my million. I'm don't,
Speaker 1: don't I'm giving it away. What if I get? What
Speaker 1: if I gave these people three million dollars right now?
Speaker 1: They're like, more out of your pocket? What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? It was just funny to see a billionaire
Speaker 1: one of them finally read the room and was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it, and I'm telling you I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you. I promise you if you use that money
Speaker 1: to solve world hunger or any any global crisis, I
Speaker 1: swear to God you will be able to put as
Speaker 1: much dumb ship in space you can build any mecca.
Speaker 1: I promise you we won't say anything. I've been saying
Speaker 1: this every time I've been on the pod. You don't
Speaker 1: even got a credit me. Just solve one global crisis
Speaker 1: and I problem. People ain't gonna be pressed about you
Speaker 1: doing whatever the funk you want with the rest of
Speaker 1: your billions. It's easy. I'm telling you, I got I
Speaker 1: got the SECRETI yeah, yeah, yeah, just one. If you
Speaker 1: did one global crisis, I promise you, no one's even
Speaker 1: gonna because because the bar is in Hell, you would
Speaker 1: be basically Jesus and you could. But yeah, Nanny, check
Speaker 1: that out. It's on Prime video. It's it's I really
Speaker 1: like it. I think people it's it's a very weird,
Speaker 1: kind of heavy, slow moving thing that I think, uh
Speaker 1: usually is reserved for a lot of white stories. And
Speaker 1: I think because people are expecting something more, and they're
Speaker 1: expecting it to say something more, because you know, I
Speaker 1: think we're in this we're still in this black renaissance
Speaker 1: of cinema, but I think we're trying to break out
Speaker 1: of that that that get out effect where I think
Speaker 1: people really liked that it was this great black story
Speaker 1: that kind of spoke to racism in a very specific,
Speaker 1: very understandable way. And so whenever you have these kind
Speaker 1: of prestige black movies, you have viewers waiting for that,
Speaker 1: and if they don't get it, they're like, well, what
Speaker 1: was this about? And it's like, we can just exist, right,
Speaker 1: and and this movie does tackle those things, but it
Speaker 1: tackles it on a more like subtle microaggression way that
Speaker 1: I think we'll fly over some people's heads. Just based
Speaker 1: on what some people have said coming out of Sundance.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, you just didn't see it, because now
Speaker 1: we're now we know the big race, we know that,
Speaker 1: don't say the hard art, we know that, don't be
Speaker 1: prejudice aspect of it. So now we're trying to get
Speaker 1: you all to understand the levels. And now y'all are
Speaker 1: missing that because y'all not looking for that, doing that
Speaker 1: you ready for? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Some kind
Speaker 1: of that writer seemed real angry or something, you know.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm I'm coming into the hot from over under.
Speaker 1: We ain't even got to the news stories yet, know,
Speaker 1: and I'm just already just throwing blows. But some good,
Speaker 1: some good stuff. To watch this. Yeah, nanny sounds good.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get into the news. Pete Buddha judge
Speaker 1: it Miles. I think you referenced this last week in
Speaker 1: our first episode back. But you know, Secretary of Transportation
Speaker 1: to him, nobody's looking at him. Where it turns out,
Speaker 1: so if you only watch mainstream news, it'll look like
Speaker 1: only Fox News is looking at him. But basically investigative
Speaker 1: journalist took a look at like dug into some communications,
Speaker 1: did some foy in, and up to one million travelers
Speaker 1: were stranded by Southwest Airlines over the holiday season. This
Speaker 1: investigative journalist uncovered documents showed that showed that Democratic state
Speaker 1: officials and congressional lawmakers had repeatedly begged Buddha gedge too
Speaker 1: tough and rules to deter airlines from mistreating their customers essentially,
Speaker 1: which you know, and Southwest stranded all those people and
Speaker 1: didn't was just like yeah, sorry, I mean, what do
Speaker 1: you want to say? Guess like your bags are in
Speaker 1: l a somewhere just going down. Just look for them.
Speaker 1: Oh y'all got the same bag? Whoops? Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 1: It is interesting because all during that time, if you
Speaker 1: watch like CNN or MSNBC or whatever, they're like gridlock,
Speaker 1: what's going on? It's Southwest? And that was sort of
Speaker 1: like the the depth of like the analysis was just like,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Folks? Seems like a real
Speaker 1: bummer out there without actually telling people like who who
Speaker 1: could do something about this? This seems all bad, right.
Speaker 1: It seems like they're just doing whatever they want. Where
Speaker 1: are the regulations where the regulators is the only he's
Speaker 1: the sole airline regulator under federal law, but they wouldn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't cover that on any of the mainstream is
Speaker 1: also Southwest Airlines experienced a similar meltdown a year ago,
Speaker 1: and this latest meltdown was made possible or actually they
Speaker 1: like interviewed this economist William McGee who said Southwest was
Speaker 1: inevitable after Buddha Judge failed to punish awful behavior all year,
Speaker 1: So he's not acting to protect consumers, to protect the
Speaker 1: American people, which is like you know that ship happens,
Speaker 1: you know, ship gets missed, People loose focus or like
Speaker 1: not good at their jobs. But the thing that's truly
Speaker 1: kind of outrageous about this is that nobody like as
Speaker 1: this investigative journalism was uncovering this and reporting it in Jacobin.
Speaker 1: The it was only being covered by Fox News, the
Speaker 1: New York Post, News, Max House, Republicans, Donald Trump Jr.
Speaker 1: Was like retweeting it, so you would like, I was
Speaker 1: under the assumption, Okay, so this is probably a bullshit
Speaker 1: story until you see that the sourcing goes back to
Speaker 1: just good old school journalism and you know, uncovering somebody
Speaker 1: not helping people where they could have. And there were
Speaker 1: also these articles like one newspaper openly ridiculed attacks on
Speaker 1: Buddha Judges record, pretending critics were ignoring the simple reality
Speaker 1: that his department does not have direct control over airlines.
Speaker 1: That was that was, I think that was. The Independent
Speaker 1: wrote that The Independent wrote that ship, oh yeah, literally
Speaker 1: the airline regulator. The Independent wrote that The Hill wrote
Speaker 1: that criticism of Buddha Judge is just petty Bernie Sanders bros.
Speaker 1: Who are like mad at him from the the Prime. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, there's just this is just leftist bullshit.
Speaker 1: They're just mad because he beat Sanders and the Prime.
Speaker 1: First of all, Sanders did better than him in the primaries,
Speaker 1: I think, But it wasn't Besides the point, like the
Speaker 1: It's just it's such a like our team versus their
Speaker 1: team environment. It's really fucking shipped up right now, like
Speaker 1: it's and it gives Fox the ability, like it gives
Speaker 1: them the ability to point to ways that the mainstream
Speaker 1: media and the Democratic Party are lying and like just
Speaker 1: like there are actual conspiracies happening that they get to
Speaker 1: point to and then be like and therefore, also vaccines
Speaker 1: are bad. You know, like, what else aren't they telling you?
Speaker 1: If Pete Buddha Jadge who's from mackenzie and they're the
Speaker 1: ones who even told airlines to be able to get
Speaker 1: become more profitable through extra fees to passengers, and now
Speaker 1: he works at the Department of Transportation, then what's really
Speaker 1: going on. It's like it's a soldier and Capitalism's invisible army.
Speaker 1: You know, he was probably a CIA op or CIA
Speaker 1: connected at some point he worked for McKenzie, which is
Speaker 1: basically like the financial wing of the CIA, And fucking yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just working on behalf of massive corporations against the
Speaker 1: best interests of American people. And it's like, you you
Speaker 1: need a media that is willing to point that out,
Speaker 1: that is not getting caught lying about that ship if
Speaker 1: we're gonna get through these next ten years where people
Speaker 1: actually have to like change their lifestyles in order to
Speaker 1: prevent the end of the world. You know, like we
Speaker 1: we need a better system than this where it's just
Speaker 1: like our team versus their team, and we have to
Speaker 1: protect the blue guy who might run for president four years. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's kind of what I've felt. You know,
Speaker 1: if you haven't been in tuned in with my Twitter,
Speaker 1: I did last year accidentally delete all of my tweets,
Speaker 1: but there was a tweet I had rest in Peace
Speaker 1: that I was I was like, we need to move
Speaker 1: past like the the this like political tribalism and be
Speaker 1: more agnostic and really start to take stuff in on
Speaker 1: a case by case basis, because yeah, it is you know,
Speaker 1: Ever since someone kind of like pointed out to look
Speaker 1: out for political theater, it really has uh like turned
Speaker 1: all my spiky senses because pee Bote is the best
Speaker 1: at that, you know, he you know, he was the
Speaker 1: quickest to make sure all the cameras were there and
Speaker 1: when he was yelling about bald which is you know,
Speaker 1: which was warranted. But you know there's the part where
Speaker 1: you agree with him and you're like yeah. And then
Speaker 1: there's the part where you're like, well, how how much
Speaker 1: is this optics and how much is this like actual
Speaker 1: anger because Pete Boutej, you know, has a history of
Speaker 1: being the the guy who was like very visibly outrage
Speaker 1: and in the same way he did it with Southwest,
Speaker 1: and now you're kind of seeing it in a very
Speaker 1: explosive way where he was like, you know, very ramped
Speaker 1: up and talking about how he's looking in the Southwest
Speaker 1: and how angry. And now we have receipts that is
Speaker 1: like yeah, with the hot dogs suit, You're you're the
Speaker 1: hot dog suit guy. We're all trying to find the
Speaker 1: guy who did this, and it was like it was
Speaker 1: you and it's because you were told about this and
Speaker 1: you just kind of didn't do anything or that your
Speaker 1: or your reflexes are like I don't rock the profit boat. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the one thing I know from coming up. You
Speaker 1: don't rock the profit boat. If anything, you tell them
Speaker 1: how to make the profit boat bigger, but don't rock
Speaker 1: the profit boat. That's not what we do. And to
Speaker 1: your point about the tribal ism, like people who get
Speaker 1: so caught up in the blue no matter who or whatever.
Speaker 1: You're basically seating your ability to define your own values
Speaker 1: by by by by having to put them through this
Speaker 1: lens of what does the big D Democrat party think
Speaker 1: of a of an issue and whatever that is? That's
Speaker 1: what I think, because that's usually how I mean. That's
Speaker 1: how I was radicalized, slowly from like a teenager on
Speaker 1: just to hear you know, from my parents, Well, what
Speaker 1: do you what do you think should work? Well this? Okay,
Speaker 1: what party is doing that? Well? Neither of them? Okay,
Speaker 1: so you disagree there, but not rather than like, should
Speaker 1: I conform my desire to have like a more efficient
Speaker 1: quote unquote justice system, or from are actually tackling the
Speaker 1: problem of the carcetral state, Like, if that's a value
Speaker 1: to me, I'm not gonna budge from that because that's
Speaker 1: what that's the world I want to see. So if
Speaker 1: I just go, oh, yeah, well the the blue guy
Speaker 1: is not really feeling that, and I'm like, okay, fine,
Speaker 1: as long as he's blue, I can abandon this thing
Speaker 1: that I have, this value that I hold. That's when
Speaker 1: ship gets slippery and you end up, like in a
Speaker 1: situation like this, probably having a feeling of going, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's really fucked up that airline can
Speaker 1: completely go, you know, be completely backwards as a business
Speaker 1: strand all these people not give them refunds during like
Speaker 1: the Hall of a Day season where people's travel time
Speaker 1: is very precious, And you know what, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: get mad about it because I'm Team Blue and even
Speaker 1: though that's on us, I'm not really here to get
Speaker 1: mad at the team because that's more important to me
Speaker 1: than like my stated values or what I believe as
Speaker 1: a person. And I think that's really hard because the
Speaker 1: other part of it is, like you're saying, Jack, you're
Speaker 1: not educating people like on how ship works, like just
Speaker 1: about basic civics lesson like if you have people rampantly
Speaker 1: being like I saw in that same Independent article they
Speaker 1: were like showing like and even Democrats are saying, like,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not his fault. Where someone's like one
Speaker 1: of these democratic influencers, like I mean, boot Pete Buddha
Speaker 1: Jadge isn't the CEO of like the Storm, What do
Speaker 1: they expect him to do? It's all yeah, teaching them
Speaker 1: not just to like not educate and not but it's
Speaker 1: teaching them to ignore and to like you know, do
Speaker 1: these mental gymnastics at a time where like it's really
Speaker 1: dangerous for we're supposed to be like learning how to
Speaker 1: learn some very difficult truths. Like right now the world
Speaker 1: is in a very you know phasing the next ten
Speaker 1: twenty years where mass extinction. Yeah, we're facing the sixth
Speaker 1: mass extinction. We're going to need to get through to people.
Speaker 1: And we're teaching them to like do this sort of
Speaker 1: mental gymnastics just to get on board with the right
Speaker 1: team because we think that they're the better of too
Speaker 1: bad alternatives. It just doesn't We're no longer in a
Speaker 1: place where that's viable. And in fact, this is like
Speaker 1: very dangerous because you're teaching them how to ignore, you're
Speaker 1: teaching them how to like you know, swallow these lies
Speaker 1: and like you know, argue on behalf of them. He's
Speaker 1: not the CEO of the storm. And it gets fascism
Speaker 1: ground to stand on. And fascism is the thing in
Speaker 1: the United States that keeps coming. The left gets gets ignored,
Speaker 1: it gets dismissed, the you know body politic is allergic
Speaker 1: to leftism. Fascism keeps coming in this country and it's
Speaker 1: gonna keep coming. And that's we're we're in a really
Speaker 1: dangerous position if we can if we don't have any
Speaker 1: mainstream media that actually is willing to tell the truth
Speaker 1: about this ship. Yeah, because everyone's keeping score. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And I mean it even kind of leads into this
Speaker 1: next story about like just like because this is the
Speaker 1: kind of this is the kind of world that like
Speaker 1: people like Tucker Carlson need where people have completely given
Speaker 1: up on the ability of government to do anything. Because
Speaker 1: that's truly again, how like you're saying that makes you
Speaker 1: more open to more extreme solutions because you'll be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we already tried this government like democratic ship. What's this
Speaker 1: other guy saying? Oh yeah, I like I like his
Speaker 1: funk them up attitude. This might work. And Fox is
Speaker 1: in the they're in a really interesting like situation again,
Speaker 1: as the speaker fight keeps going, like I don't know
Speaker 1: if Kevin mccar the has taken like seventeen straight l's
Speaker 1: for like a vote for speaker as it stands, I
Speaker 1: believe he is not yet the speaker, or at least
Speaker 1: as of this recording. And we've played like last week
Speaker 1: he played a clip on how like Hannity was getting
Speaker 1: tired of Lauren Bolberg and talking like her obstructionism. As
Speaker 1: he was saying, He's like, why don't you pack it in?
Speaker 1: And the other never Kevin's like what the funk? Like
Speaker 1: what do we look stupid out here? And then Brian
Speaker 1: Kilmeade even called one of his fellow insurrectionists a literal
Speaker 1: insurrectionists and was like, oh, sorry, I didn't mean to
Speaker 1: use yeah, and like Laura Ingram, Laura Ingram even told
Speaker 1: Matt Gates to get on with it and that he
Speaker 1: was playing with fire by messing around with this. But
Speaker 1: one person on this news channel, on Fashion or Fox News, uh,
Speaker 1: isn't towing the line like the rest, and that's Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 1: He's steadily been marching to his own beat or maybe
Speaker 1: the kremlins of like this is a good thing that
Speaker 1: the government can't operate. Actually, this is democracy in action.
Speaker 1: He's also decided to give the holdouts like some additional
Speaker 1: notes on concessions they should be extracting from Kevin McCarthy, like,
Speaker 1: you know, make the house completely Like basically you should
Speaker 1: get McCarthy to start a probe and at the FBI
Speaker 1: and have all the footage from January six released because
Speaker 1: this is like part of his conspiratorial thinking about it
Speaker 1: with like Antifa, and you know, he just he feels
Speaker 1: like this this help and then even accused McCarthy. He
Speaker 1: was like, he's like, are you really going to trust
Speaker 1: a guy who are is like a Ukraine pin? Wait? What, well,
Speaker 1: what do you think why? Because I mean what reason?
Speaker 1: I mean he's a clearly sounds an awful lot like
Speaker 1: an attempt to begin to erode the financial backing of
Speaker 1: Ukraine as they're fighting Russia. Is that like just shorthand
Speaker 1: at this point on his show, like his audience all
Speaker 1: is like Ukraine, well, we all know they're the best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if you listen to him enough, he's not.
Speaker 1: He's not like full throated being like we got it
Speaker 1: back Ukraine. He's like, well, I don't know should we be.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of problems here like over there.
Speaker 1: And then like the other part of the Fox is like,
Speaker 1: hey man, we're with the military industrial complex. What then
Speaker 1: you're talking about get this money? Flu shut the funk up.
Speaker 1: But again, this is part of his you know, clearly
Speaker 1: he wants to keep continue to erode the faith or
Speaker 1: whatever that is, and especially if the government's not operating.
Speaker 1: That is huge for people like Tucker Carlson, for people
Speaker 1: like Steve Bannon. They want people to look at the
Speaker 1: government as being a total joke, like that, that's the
Speaker 1: that's what that's step one of being able to really
Speaker 1: blow ship out. Because the second everyone's like, no, it's
Speaker 1: it's a joke, it's all bullshit, whatever, then you're pretty
Speaker 1: pretty much anything is on the table at that point,
Speaker 1: or at least it won't sound inappropriate. So, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like an odd place because on one hand,
Speaker 1: Fox and GEOP, the GOP, they've both chosen like this
Speaker 1: very easy path of just feeding their audience increasingly extremist
Speaker 1: viewpoints to like bolster support. But in that process they've
Speaker 1: also had to be somewhat tethered to reality, which is
Speaker 1: also affecting their audience. Like when they called Arizona for Biden.
Speaker 1: That was like a mortal sin for those people who
Speaker 1: are also fed the diet of misinformation like what do
Speaker 1: you mean that's that's happening, or you know, trying to
Speaker 1: have pretend that they aren't spewing election denial fantasies to
Speaker 1: being you know, avoid being sued into oblivion. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of like simultaneous reaping of the sewing and like
Speaker 1: it's weird ways and like Kevin McCarthy if he if
Speaker 1: he ends up being speaker, he's gonna be so weakened
Speaker 1: because he's giving the entire the ability of the speaker's
Speaker 1: position to sort of dictate the schedule of legislation and
Speaker 1: what gets voted on, etcetera. And you know, like I
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know what good it does anybody
Speaker 1: at that point, but we will see how this So
Speaker 1: these are the people who are winning, right, Like Fox
Speaker 1: News is the side that is winning. If they are
Speaker 1: making it so that the mainstream media can't tell the
Speaker 1: truth about a story when the Democratic side sucks up,
Speaker 1: like because they know that Fox is you know, going
Speaker 1: to be twisting things, then they've they've won. They've redefined
Speaker 1: the game to to their ends. And you know, it
Speaker 1: as bad as weird and like, you know, untenable as
Speaker 1: their position seems, it does seem like they still determine
Speaker 1: the rules of war when it comes to how stories
Speaker 1: are told in the current media landscape in a way
Speaker 1: that you know, even fairly recently they what probably wasn't
Speaker 1: the case. Well, I guess my one question is this then,
Speaker 1: because what really looks like is there's there's been this
Speaker 1: internal kind of civil war with the right right where
Speaker 1: you had your like what we'll call classic conservatives kind
Speaker 1: of battling out with the far right and you and
Speaker 1: that's kind of the holdouts here. So do we think
Speaker 1: this is a good thing that it seems like to
Speaker 1: be this small community of whack jobs that are holding
Speaker 1: out or do we look at this as, uh, they
Speaker 1: are regaining power because their figurehead essentially was like, you
Speaker 1: know Trump, who was you know, uh there. But even
Speaker 1: though there's a little bit of Trump and all of
Speaker 1: that party, I think you have the side of the
Speaker 1: people who are like, we're gonna outright saying you know,
Speaker 1: wild ship like like we like we were saying the Tuckle,
Speaker 1: the Tucker Carlson's of it and the Matt Gates of
Speaker 1: it all, which I'm like, how about you worry about
Speaker 1: your case, my boy. But uh, and then you have
Speaker 1: you know, the people who are trying to play ball
Speaker 1: and parlay and and try and pretend like they have
Speaker 1: some civility. Well it's like they have. They're gonna these
Speaker 1: like holdouts there in a rough spot like part of
Speaker 1: them is like, yeah, we did that. Hold that Kevin McCarthy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you thought you were the speaker that you
Speaker 1: moved in a little too quick. But then on the
Speaker 1: other side, right, you have two hundred Republicans who are like,
Speaker 1: the fund is, what the funk are they doing? The
Speaker 1: funk are y'all doing? We need to fucking move along
Speaker 1: with this ship. My Karthy already promised me spots and
Speaker 1: ship that I need. I want to get this ship going,
Speaker 1: already made my deal with him. Cut your fucking deal
Speaker 1: with him, and let's go. But then on the other
Speaker 1: side of it, you also have people in that two
Speaker 1: hundred of the establishment Democrats that are behind McCarthy. They're
Speaker 1: also telling McCarthy, don't be cutting deals with them, you know,
Speaker 1: don't don't give them a gavel position, like as the
Speaker 1: chair of a committee or subcommittee. Are you fucking dumb.
Speaker 1: I've been in this ship for fifty fucking your forty
Speaker 1: years or whatever, and you're gonna let this fucking racist
Speaker 1: who sells etsy like KKK fucking coffee mugs and ship
Speaker 1: like they're gonna let that person run a commite I've
Speaker 1: put a lot of time into this. So they're up
Speaker 1: against it, and really, all it's gonna do, it's just
Speaker 1: gonna it's only gonna further create more rot within the
Speaker 1: party because everyone is pissed at each other right now.
Speaker 1: And then on top of it, you have some Republicans like,
Speaker 1: fucking man, just cut a deal with the Democrats, then
Speaker 1: like fucking leave them behind at least we can figure
Speaker 1: something out. And then you have a group of Republicans
Speaker 1: like I will fuck I will never fucking vote for
Speaker 1: anything thing that gives power to the Democrats, even in
Speaker 1: a shared situation. So it's a lose lose situation. I
Speaker 1: don't think it necessarily Bolsters like their power. They're just obstructing.
Speaker 1: And from that position, they're like, it's only creating more
Speaker 1: resentment to them specifically as a group. Now what that
Speaker 1: means for like their constituents who probably love it because
Speaker 1: they probably rode in on a horse of like get
Speaker 1: McCarthy out of here and all these rhinos. I mean again,
Speaker 1: but this is what happens when they they let the
Speaker 1: fucking monsters in it. I feel like it's more likely
Speaker 1: that we see them like give concessions to the extremist wing,
Speaker 1: the extremist called outs than there is that like there's
Speaker 1: some sort of coalition, like you know, so yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people like don't. A lot
Speaker 1: of people say it's impossible, but you never know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean because the other thing is like soon you
Speaker 1: might see people try to spin it at how come
Speaker 1: the Democrats won't work with them? Yeah? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like what they're like nearly antithetical on most things,
Speaker 1: like like you know, policy wise, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's why it's very very uh, it's it's gonna be
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like a strained fight for the speakers possession,
Speaker 1: and then at the end of it, I'm not sure
Speaker 1: we'll see how efficiently or inefficiently runs. All right, let's
Speaker 1: take a quick break, we'll come back, we'll talk Netflix,
Speaker 1: and we're back. And so Netflix has been canceling. They
Speaker 1: canceled over fifteen shows in twenty twenty two over Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it ended up closer to like nineteen by
Speaker 1: the end of the year. So they canceled a show
Speaker 1: from the creators of Dark. Did y'all ever watch Dark?
Speaker 1: That German like sci fi lost type ship. I heard
Speaker 1: people raving about it, but I did not watch didn't
Speaker 1: you watch it, Jack? I watched like the first season
Speaker 1: of it. It's solid. It is solid, it's like what
Speaker 1: it recaptures some of what you got from like watching
Speaker 1: Lost that first season a little and like it's even
Speaker 1: more self contained. So I don't know. I I recommend it,
Speaker 1: even though I didn't complete the entire first season. That
Speaker 1: the one thing I would say is do not do
Speaker 1: the like English dub, just do just fucking suck it
Speaker 1: up and read the subject. Yeah. I typically I if
Speaker 1: it if they have subsuningum subs. Yeah, this was the
Speaker 1: first time. For some reason, I think it defaulted to
Speaker 1: like the dub, and so I just watched like three
Speaker 1: episodes with the dub and I was like, man, this
Speaker 1: is terrible. I don't know if people about yeah, they're
Speaker 1: all bad actors and I was like, oh no, it's
Speaker 1: just yeah. And then you turned the subtitles on, You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're all great actors. The big change. Anyways, Dark is cool.
Speaker 1: They released they developed and released a new show from
Speaker 1: the creator of Dark and it's first week that it
Speaker 1: drops back in November, it was called It hit the
Speaker 1: number two slot on the Netflix Top ten, behind only
Speaker 1: The Crown stayed on the top ten for weeks and
Speaker 1: then like a couple of weeks later it just got
Speaker 1: canceled and everyone was confused. And that this has happened
Speaker 1: with a couple of other shows this year where it's
Speaker 1: not you know, Netflix will drop stuff and just bury
Speaker 1: it and it will like we'll just like not exist,
Speaker 1: and that's funked up. But there's been some shows where
Speaker 1: they like, there's a teen vampire drama called First Kill
Speaker 1: that was all over their top ten and they canceled it.
Speaker 1: And so the secret behind this is something called completion
Speaker 1: rate that they value over everything else. And that is
Speaker 1: what what you would think it is, is like what
Speaker 1: percentage of people who start a show actually finish it?
Speaker 1: And so yeah, so the these shows that get in
Speaker 1: their top ten because they've got a lot of people
Speaker 1: like starting them and watching the first couple episodes, they
Speaker 1: have low completion rates, which suggests to Netflix, well then
Speaker 1: nobody's going to you know, tune in for two or
Speaker 1: what you know, season two, so that they do billboard
Speaker 1: charts like that. Yeah, you know what I mean, because
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, like when people when Drake
Speaker 1: puts out like a forty six song album, and like
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, and they'll just play back to back
Speaker 1: and then at the top of the charts because like
Speaker 1: listen time, like how many people are even just like
Speaker 1: bailing after like halfway through the third track or something.
Speaker 1: But I just feel like it's interesting to see that
Speaker 1: at least for them, they know that is actually the
Speaker 1: most valuable thing in terms of making content. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's number one, like people have
Speaker 1: to watch it to justify the cost. Right, what do
Speaker 1: you guys feelings about that? Because like part of me
Speaker 1: is like but with with music in particular, part of
Speaker 1: me is like, yeah, all the songs, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't give a ship, like don't be precious, because like
Speaker 1: you know, there have been some great albums that like
Speaker 1: Bob Dylan has a couple albums where like he's just
Speaker 1: cut songs that were great, but he just like felt
Speaker 1: didn't fit the vibe of the album and like they
Speaker 1: don't come out for like thirty years or whatever. So
Speaker 1: like the this new model of just like putting all
Speaker 1: the songs out and letting people sort of edit together
Speaker 1: their own version of the album. I don't hey, But
Speaker 1: it's also like I do appreciate a flawless album, you
Speaker 1: know it's but yeah, what's built in is the cynicism
Speaker 1: of making as much money as first. That's it. That's
Speaker 1: why I don't like it because I'm like, because that's
Speaker 1: also songs are so short too, Like it's like, well
Speaker 1: you just keep looping that or you know that. A
Speaker 1: lot of it is also being affected by how people
Speaker 1: consume music on TikTok so away, like everything is evolving,
Speaker 1: so do whatever you do, like put out a fucking
Speaker 1: album because my favorite song of the year it's like
Speaker 1: a minute and a half. Yo. But but that's what
Speaker 1: they're saying. They're also saying that this metric of completion rate,
Speaker 1: like that's skewed in favor of shorter, more easily digestible
Speaker 1: shows that you're just you know, like if your shows
Speaker 1: like got fifteen minute episodes where it's like Emily in
Speaker 1: Paris and it's just something you're like throwing on the background,
Speaker 1: it's going to have a higher completion rate, like if
Speaker 1: it's just not challenging. So I don't know, it does
Speaker 1: it does seem to be anything that's metrics driven around
Speaker 1: art is gonna be a little problematic. Look what it
Speaker 1: did the video. Look what it did the digital video,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It used to be like, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: you could upload videos on the internet and they're like
Speaker 1: that ship can't be more than fifty three second in
Speaker 1: the asshole and they were so and like and then
Speaker 1: they're like time, it's all about It's not about watch time.
Speaker 1: It's that some people can make content that people will
Speaker 1: watch longer than others. That's what it is. It's not
Speaker 1: by virtue of the length of time. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that this is always when you know, as quick
Speaker 1: Quincy Jones would say this one God leaves the room's
Speaker 1: metrics and when money comes into the conversation, When metrics
Speaker 1: come to the conversation, that's when God leaves. God leaves
Speaker 1: the room, babe, ain't no God in there. And I
Speaker 1: was a big metrics guy when I was, you know,
Speaker 1: running Cracked. I definitely believed in metrics because their parent
Speaker 1: company was like a big metrics company, so I kind
Speaker 1: of had to. But yeah, I think anyone who was
Speaker 1: making digital content and that had to be it was
Speaker 1: all about KPI s and all that. Ship. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, are there are there any shows
Speaker 1: that you guys have like felt got gone too soon
Speaker 1: in the digital world that you want to see like
Speaker 1: given another or not in the digital like on streaming,
Speaker 1: that you want to see given another chance. I feel
Speaker 1: like we get plenty of digital content. I was just
Speaker 1: watching Chronicles on HBO Max. I thought that it was cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that Sally there's there's a ton of I mean
Speaker 1: so much. It's hard. Honestly, I'm kind of desensitized because
Speaker 1: the rhythm of content coming out is so intense. They're like, oh, right,
Speaker 1: like season three is out. I'm like, I forgot about
Speaker 1: season two of that other show, right, here's the thing
Speaker 1: for And this is what I truly feel about when
Speaker 1: these quote unquote metrics, because you know, I've seen the
Speaker 1: metrics for the digital stuff we've worked on, and we
Speaker 1: know it's real. I would love to see Netflix actually
Speaker 1: post these metrics because it really feels like more of
Speaker 1: a cop out than anything. Because you can't tell me
Speaker 1: the platform that created people binging almost three to five
Speaker 1: hours of content is now like, oh, we like the
Speaker 1: easily digestible stuff. You can't tell me these shows that
Speaker 1: are blowing that are these hour longs which are going nuts.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like I feel like there's copouts, and
Speaker 1: I feel like it what it is when it always
Speaker 1: comes to Hollywood things like this is money because I think,
Speaker 1: you know, TV is so elusive when it's like on
Speaker 1: the traditional networks because we're just kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: we hope it did good, but we're going off on
Speaker 1: Nielsen's and all this stuff. But like when Netflix shows
Speaker 1: are bopping, you know, you got people globally on Twitter,
Speaker 1: you've got trending and all that, and then when you
Speaker 1: come back to the bargaining table with that type of information,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your coins. So you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: it doesn't, you know, And it's always been this like
Speaker 1: on this third season. Nothing Nothing gets past the third season,
Speaker 1: which you know traditionally inside baseball usually when contracts get renegotiated.
Speaker 1: So I would I would personally love to see the
Speaker 1: metrics that that are being upheld and and and that's
Speaker 1: not just being you absconding and waiting out to see
Speaker 1: as we go into a year, you know, but we're
Speaker 1: I mean both with between SAG, the w g A
Speaker 1: and I'm sure the d g A, we're starting to
Speaker 1: come for streaming because streaming is this weird thing where, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, your show goes on there, you don't, you
Speaker 1: don't get the same. You know, when when I was
Speaker 1: doing a show before, they played it once again every
Speaker 1: that same night. So they would play when it aired,
Speaker 1: um and it usually aired at midnight. I'll let you
Speaker 1: guess which show that was, and then it would air again,
Speaker 1: and so they'd had to pay us every time it aired,
Speaker 1: and it was a daily show, and it was like
Speaker 1: a nice little extra bump. But you know, if it's
Speaker 1: on streaming, you people can watch that fifty million times
Speaker 1: and we're really not gonna see any type of payment
Speaker 1: for that. So now we're getting to this point where,
Speaker 1: like you know, W G A. SAG actors were starting
Speaker 1: to be like where's my coins? And now we're getting
Speaker 1: to this era where they're trying to be like, well,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna let shows run that that long. We're
Speaker 1: not gonna give We're already cutting down the the season orders,
Speaker 1: you know, like I'm rewatching Lost. The first season is
Speaker 1: twenty two episodes. You know, you don't get a two
Speaker 1: episode first season anymore. You definitely don't get it on streaming. Streaming,
Speaker 1: you're lucky if you get a ten episode. It's eight
Speaker 1: to ten episodes, so it's really just kind of the
Speaker 1: dance around paying the people that need to be paid
Speaker 1: while y'all raking billions, you know, you know, follow the money.
Speaker 1: As they said, the problem is, like they would be like,
Speaker 1: the thing is that show was actually too popping, so
Speaker 1: they actually wanted like appropriate money to keep. We don't
Speaker 1: really do that. We like to take make bets on
Speaker 1: three seasons. M that was like, it's funny. I just
Speaker 1: saw a clip of Snoop Dogg talking about I don't
Speaker 1: know if you remember on MTV he did that show
Speaker 1: Doggy Fizzle Televissile that like it was like a comedy
Speaker 1: show that's new and it was funny. There was like
Speaker 1: a segment called black Ass where it was just based
Speaker 1: on like black people can't do that jackass ship or
Speaker 1: or it's like the stakes are way different coming up
Speaker 1: to a cop and trying to funk with him. And
Speaker 1: I remember the really funny show. It was only around
Speaker 1: for one season, and what happened was he said, he said,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, like it was popping. MTV loved it. They
Speaker 1: come back. They said, hey man, we we already got
Speaker 1: everybody on board for season two, like we got all
Speaker 1: your like the hair people, the camera people, they're all
Speaker 1: locked in, the writers like they're they're good with this
Speaker 1: new deal or whatever. And then Snoop was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna need more money. And they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: the thing is you know you do we we got
Speaker 1: you in a two season contract and he said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't care. That first season was is popping, so
Speaker 1: we're not if we're not going to have the same deals,
Speaker 1: like I don't think. He was basic like I don't
Speaker 1: care what and and they said, okay, well, you know,
Speaker 1: we can't really do anything because he signed the papers.
Speaker 1: They told him. The season two shooting date was like
Speaker 1: you know, January ten, January, tent shows up, he doesn't
Speaker 1: show up, and he said, nine am, I'm not there,
Speaker 1: ten am, I'm not there, two pm, i'm not there,
Speaker 1: four pm, I'm not there. And finally they just asked,
Speaker 1: what's going on. I said, I'm not doing it. End
Speaker 1: of the show because he was just he was so
Speaker 1: about his coins that and also I think he was
Speaker 1: like I don't even know traditional business deals, but this
Speaker 1: but it's true. Yeah, yeah, MTV not always the greatest
Speaker 1: to talent that they work with, They were paying people
Speaker 1: like it was digital content before digital content was the thing.
Speaker 1: I will I will say, you know, yeah, they the
Speaker 1: parent company, which I think technically doesn't exist anymore. So
Speaker 1: I feel like, like, but that parent company, yeah, Vicom,
Speaker 1: because I think now it's within Paramount, right, which you know,
Speaker 1: CBS Paramount, which I do love and everything, but Vicom,
Speaker 1: which is of course very different and not the same thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: truly has a history. And I'll leave of just being
Speaker 1: like you have to get it going with them, and
Speaker 1: I think it's mostly too when you think about the
Speaker 1: history of television, if you some people know that, some don't.
Speaker 1: But you know, reality TV came from the big writer
Speaker 1: strike that happened. That's really when it blew up. And
Speaker 1: I think MTV and viacom a lot of their shows.
Speaker 1: We're able to make the most out of it. You know,
Speaker 1: you had Team Mom, you got the Challenge, you got
Speaker 1: Real World, so you were able to keep cooking. And
Speaker 1: I think that so they're used to being like, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the anything scripted is not our bottom line,
Speaker 1: you know anything, you know, like like we can we
Speaker 1: can move with you so you can get what we offer,
Speaker 1: or we'll just make another another thing like that, And
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of why they've had the history.
Speaker 1: But you know what happened to Spider Games MTV two.
Speaker 1: I was watching that Ship Took Away, that drama show
Speaker 1: about a fledgling gaming company that was like the worst
Speaker 1: soap opera I've ever seen. I don't know why to look,
Speaker 1: but when you when you look back at like how
Speaker 1: MTV came together, that ship was it wasn't even like
Speaker 1: duct tape. It was it was scotch tape. Like they
Speaker 1: they were just like throwing so like music videos were
Speaker 1: a thing that people were doing in London and like
Speaker 1: the proud rock like new wave scene, and they just
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, these are free, let's just put them on.
Speaker 1: And for like three years that's all they had and
Speaker 1: then they just slowly like built it up with no
Speaker 1: budget and just it's wild. So yeah, that that ship
Speaker 1: came together from very bargain basement type culture. How you
Speaker 1: do it? Yeah? And then with Rob dear Dick pretty
Speaker 1: much flipped the script on him. Well if he try
Speaker 1: such a pleasure having you as always, where can people
Speaker 1: find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Oh? Man?
Speaker 1: They if you wady wait on Twitter and Instagram. If
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Speaker 1: It's coming to you. Watch Twisted Metals Coming to Peacock
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, watch anything else I tell you
Speaker 1: too on those social media sites because I'm cooking on
Speaker 1: stuff all the time, and I'm real excited to be back,
Speaker 1: and you know, carved myself back on Mountain zeke Mark
Speaker 1: it's it's back. I'm freet dull. You know, I know
Speaker 1: it's getting dul And I was getting I know because
Speaker 1: you know, I popped in the day and then now
Speaker 1: I was also gonna come a little later, and I said,
Speaker 1: and go ahead and keep that there. I'm coming back.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking I'm back and hopefully we're better Internet. But
Speaker 1: y'all won't know this because it's edited really well. But
Speaker 1: just h this was a journey of it. There's like
Speaker 1: the phrase I'm thinking I'm back. Yeah, I'm thinking that
Speaker 1: for real. So and is there a tweet or some
Speaker 1: of the work of social media you've been Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: I do. I added it to the docks so I
Speaker 1: wouldn't forget, but it is. It had me laughing and
Speaker 1: it's great here this area. It is a video of
Speaker 1: Savannah recording Lebron James trying to play Madden, and Lebron
Speaker 1: is kind of like, well we did this, this, this, this,
Speaker 1: and the tweet goes my nigga a billionaire and still
Speaker 1: gotta justify being on the game. He just like screwing
Speaker 1: And Yeah, I still come back to this tweet and
Speaker 1: laugh because I'm like, Yep, you truly relatable energy. What's
Speaker 1: your future? Miles Welcome? Where can people find you? Miles?
Speaker 1: And was the tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? Find me
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also find
Speaker 1: us on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got Mad
Speaker 1: boost These an NBA podcast. And also if you like
Speaker 1: fiance and watching that trash dump Unraveled before Eyes checking
Speaker 1: out on four twenty day Fiance. Some tweets I like.
Speaker 1: The first one is from uh Conna jam at Kanna
Speaker 1: jam Ceo n j A M. He said no better
Speaker 1: feeling than when you finish a good book and can
Speaker 1: finally eat the book mark to um. And then another
Speaker 1: one I liked was this this tweet this prompt from
Speaker 1: at Jewel Night Jess, who we did the last TV
Speaker 1: show you watched is now getting a crossover with the
Speaker 1: last video game you played. What is the unholy abomination
Speaker 1: that has just been created? And for me, that is
Speaker 1: the Vale And I don't know what the funk that means.
Speaker 1: I can easily that, Yeah, I mean, yeah, they're already
Speaker 1: playing volleyball and ship, so yeah, yeah, he just he
Speaker 1: moves on, he moves up a little bit from amateur
Speaker 1: volleyball to the world. They're already they're already used to
Speaker 1: swallowing the lives. You know. Let's see some tweets I've
Speaker 1: been enjoying. I am a friends tweeted all these men
Speaker 1: vying for speaker and none running to be listener? Makes
Speaker 1: you think that did make me? And Philip Matt Terisi
Speaker 1: tweeted the names Bond Names Bond. You can find us
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Speaker 1: to the information that we talked about in today's episode,
Speaker 1: as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles,
Speaker 1: what song do you think people might, oh, you might
Speaker 1: enjoy this for all my geriatric millennials who appreciate the
Speaker 1: sounds of the boom bap golden era of hip hop
Speaker 1: from New York. Just this West Side Gun track from
Speaker 1: You Don't Think actually two years ago. But I love
Speaker 1: this piano sample that's in it. It's, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's so dope. It's this Ramsey Lewis piano sample and
Speaker 1: it's like it's a great loop because it doesn't really
Speaker 1: have like a distinct beat, but the producer finds a
Speaker 1: way to make a boombappable. So this is West Side Gun.
Speaker 1: Why do them like dad heavily boom bappable? Oh yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: well we will link off to that in the footnotes.
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