Speaker 1: And here he is America's favorite phase on Donald Phaison.
Speaker 1: What were you guys just talking about? We were talking
Speaker 1: about Oculus, But I don't want to talk about it
Speaker 1: anymore because we already gave them a seven minute ad today,
Speaker 1: did we give Okay, we can talk about it a
Speaker 1: little bit. Joelle tried. Joelle tried to gain the paint game. Joelle,
Speaker 1: howd it go? It was so cool? Um, I really
Speaker 1: liked the star like thing. That was great. You can't
Speaker 1: see stars where I live in Los Angeles. Um, but
Speaker 1: I'm from the country US to live where the corn grows,
Speaker 1: and I miss stars. And so I just spent like
Speaker 1: twenty minutes and there just stargazing. And then I found
Speaker 1: out you could get like a dress bust, you know
Speaker 1: where they like pin all the clothes to it so
Speaker 1: that you can like design clothes with the light in
Speaker 1: different textures they have. So I made pretty dresses for
Speaker 1: like twenty minutes. Oh, I didn't know you could make
Speaker 1: make clothes. I'm gonna try that. Fun as hell. And
Speaker 1: then yeah, walking around in your own like design and
Speaker 1: some of the colors will like flash and do like
Speaker 1: pretty rainbow things. It's very Um. If you were a
Speaker 1: Lisa Frank person. Um, enjoy this app. You can be
Speaker 1: your own Lisa Frank. I don't know who Lisa Frank is.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay. In the nineties Lisa Frank made
Speaker 1: like trapper keepers and binders and folders, but they were
Speaker 1: all like meon tigers and elephants and dolphins. Selphins were huge,
Speaker 1: just beautiful, beautiful stuff. But all the girls in the
Speaker 1: nineties I have Lisa Frank binders and such. Oh got it? Hey?
Speaker 1: Did you get more Instagram followers because I blew up
Speaker 1: your hot picture that you posted? I did. I think
Speaker 1: maybe a thousand more people. Maybe a thousand. Yeah, that's wow,
Speaker 1: that's a lot. I was gonna I was gonna write
Speaker 1: something like, you know, only slide into your DMS if
Speaker 1: you mean business. But then I said, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: not go don't don't don't do that, don't do that,
Speaker 1: don't do that. I was worried she'd get dick picks,
Speaker 1: so I did, Yeah, let me just censor the uh.
Speaker 1: I don't you know what? You know what's interesting? Do
Speaker 1: you go through like all of your emails Joe my emails? Yeah,
Speaker 1: not your emails, your your DMS I'm sorry when I'll
Speaker 1: scroll through them, because sometimes people have very lovely things
Speaker 1: to say and they're like, I don't know how to
Speaker 1: reach you, but I just want to say and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that's so nice. Thank you. If you're
Speaker 1: sending me a picture, they're all blurred out. I don't
Speaker 1: know what they say. I can't see them. I don't
Speaker 1: look at them. They're probably here's a couple. I've opened
Speaker 1: a few. Wom been like, that's a screwed to man.
Speaker 1: I don't want it. And you men? What is it
Speaker 1: with men sending dicks? I mean it's I mean, it's
Speaker 1: obviously just a fucking power power thing. But I never understood, like,
Speaker 1: what do they think the responses they're going to get
Speaker 1: from sending a picture of their dick? I want to
Speaker 1: put it in my mouth. They're never gonna get that.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're the one woman in the world
Speaker 1: or man who's responded, mmm, looks good, then you've ruined
Speaker 1: it for everybody because people a lot of people give
Speaker 1: me shipped for eating popcorn yesterday. I'm sorry everybody. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: but you edited Dane, Yeah, I mean I had to
Speaker 1: cut some of it out some of it was very explicit.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, sorry, don't know what happened, Daniel, what happened
Speaker 1: to your webcam? Man? We don't need it's just it's
Speaker 1: not working, right. I want the audience to know. I
Speaker 1: just want the audience to know that Dann a very
Speaker 1: fancy webcam because he's missed her computer guy and you
Speaker 1: can't see him because it doesn't work. Stream will look better.
Speaker 1: All it says is image edge webcam. Yeah, you're you're
Speaker 1: literal imaging image. I would tell you if you're out
Speaker 1: in the market for webcam, don't get an imaging edge one. Hey, Daniel,
Speaker 1: do you want to plug your stream? Since I gave
Speaker 1: Joella a shout out for for Instagram? What what is
Speaker 1: your streaming? What's your streaming thing? Wat? You play? Stream
Speaker 1: on Twitch at twitch dot tv, slash dj Underscore Daniel
Speaker 1: like my Twitter handle um my stream on Wednesdays and
Speaker 1: Sunday nights seven pm onward and um And what game
Speaker 1: do you play? Yeah? Game play everything. Playing a lot
Speaker 1: of the new season of Fall. Guys, there's a brand
Speaker 1: new GTA five heist that came out today. I play
Speaker 1: a lot that that GTA heist looks fire. I haven't.
Speaker 1: I haven't played I haven't played gt Granted, I haven't
Speaker 1: played GTA or Red Dead in about a year now
Speaker 1: since I got home and COVID happened. And you know,
Speaker 1: you can't, you can't just immerse yourself in these world
Speaker 1: worlds for hours when you got you know, uh, eight
Speaker 1: seven year old and a five year old running round
Speaker 1: of course, of course, but there used to be a
Speaker 1: big GTA guy. He was addicted making scrubs. You were playing, dude,
Speaker 1: GTA got to well, I wonder how they're gonna address
Speaker 1: it with the ps what is it a five now? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And the Xbox what is it an Xbox, Xbox series
Speaker 1: X whatever the whatever it is? Right, Yeah, there's so many,
Speaker 1: there's so many consoles. But anyway, I wonder how they're
Speaker 1: gonna address that because the graphics and the fluidity of
Speaker 1: the original were always fire anyway, Like you could do
Speaker 1: everything and anything in GTA. You can fly, you can
Speaker 1: rob somebody. They even made it so you could rob
Speaker 1: banks and stuff like that. Like they it gets to it.
Speaker 1: It's high level, uh you know, scum and villainy, villainy. However,
Speaker 1: he's a scum and villainy. Yeah, it's high level. How
Speaker 1: do they address that? How do they address that with
Speaker 1: the new consoles? How do they make it? How do
Speaker 1: you make it more realistic than is the question? And
Speaker 1: and can you make it virtual? Like what would be
Speaker 1: fire for these games now is if what's the thing
Speaker 1: that they had in that movie who had a boy
Speaker 1: jumped on a treadmill and could run in any direction
Speaker 1: if you could? Yeah, I love them first that they do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have things like like, um, well, I know they
Speaker 1: got the best. I know you put like wheeled sneakers
Speaker 1: on and you and you walk around in this um
Speaker 1: uh circle. Rig right, Daniel, you know what I'm talking about? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh absolutely. What's it called? I think it's called like
Speaker 1: an omni omni track. You have like a little wasting
Speaker 1: that goes around you and then it's like a treadmill
Speaker 1: that just moves in any direction. They're very cool. That
Speaker 1: would be that would be a really cool But yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know how you would. That would be really
Speaker 1: cool if you could figure out a way to be
Speaker 1: actually jump into the universe like in Ready Player one.
Speaker 1: That's next. Obviously we're so far away from that, we're
Speaker 1: something We're that far away from it. I mean, just
Speaker 1: just messing around with the oculus too. Now I'm seeing
Speaker 1: we're not far away from it. All right, we should
Speaker 1: get to the show because people don't want to hear
Speaker 1: another long VR conversation. I'm sure it was. It's just
Speaker 1: so listen for all of you out there, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: they've got the PS five's and the Xbox whatever it is.
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you that oculus. Man. All right, it's
Speaker 1: a very special show, you know what. Amazing. First of all,
Speaker 1: it's an amazing show. It's I may not know. I
Speaker 1: did not know how emotional I was going to get
Speaker 1: at the end of this. You hit me up and
Speaker 1: you were like, Yo, it's uh, it's it's it's My
Speaker 1: screw Up. Yeah. Should we have raiding on? And immediately
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, snap, we're already yet the rating episode. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: I had thought for since we started. Here's the thing
Speaker 1: about My screw Up. It's a lot of people's favorite episodes.
Speaker 1: It's one of the highest ranking episodes in terms of
Speaker 1: like the way they write ranked people, fans ranked things
Speaker 1: on TV dot com. It's ranked I read, I read,
Speaker 1: It's tied for highest with an episode called my lunch
Speaker 1: from season five, so it is a lot of people's
Speaker 1: favorite episode. We had planned to have Brandon on, We
Speaker 1: had planned to have Johnny on, but you know, between
Speaker 1: COVID and the holidays and our schedules, everything's all fa cocky.
Speaker 1: So I just said to Um, to Donald, why don't
Speaker 1: we have Josh Raiden on? Because Josh Raiden, for those
Speaker 1: of you don't know, Um wrote the song Winter that
Speaker 1: plays at the end of the show, and that that
Speaker 1: song launched his entire career. It broke him. It broke
Speaker 1: him literally, it broke him. It turned him into the
Speaker 1: Josh raiding that Listen, Man, I remember going to see Josh. Wait, wait,
Speaker 1: let's save it. Let's invite him in, danil is he here?
Speaker 1: Bring it in. Let's see what he looks like. Oh
Speaker 1: the bunderus. Applause, Dan, I'm thunderous. Applause. Josh write. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: someone's had some coffee. Someone's had some coffee. He's barking.
Speaker 1: This is my first podcast. We have, we started, we'd
Speaker 1: already begune. We did a whole we did We've been
Speaker 1: talking about you on the podcast tap. It's happening all right,
Speaker 1: and we're back in Everybody. We had a very interesting
Speaker 1: thing we edited out trying to educate a professional magician
Speaker 1: how to record himself. Josh, why do you call him
Speaker 1: a magician? Did you just call him a magician a musician?
Speaker 1: How come, Josh, you don't know how to record yourself?
Speaker 1: I remember called intelligent. We're so happy you're here, everybody. So,
Speaker 1: if you don't know, Joshua Rading is my friend from
Speaker 1: Northwestern and um he also he's my friend. He's my friend.
Speaker 1: I introduced him to Donald Phazon one Vegas trip. That's
Speaker 1: all it took, even before Vegas, though I met in
Speaker 1: New York. We met in New York, dude, Jeff Sucker,
Speaker 1: I know we met in New York. Josh, you were
Speaker 1: there that night, back when you had a whole other life, man,
Speaker 1: back before you were a musician, back when you were
Speaker 1: dating another girl. Now now you're freaking a freaking I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it. You're a playboy, dog, You're a true player.
Speaker 1: You're a rock star. Man. Do you know how hard
Speaker 1: it is to be single and a pandemic? Oh? I
Speaker 1: not feel for him, dude, he's doing this all alone.
Speaker 1: You can't date. And then Joel knows you can't date
Speaker 1: during during COVID and die. So yeah, but you could
Speaker 1: set up so much stuff and when COVID's over just
Speaker 1: played out, you can. I mean, you got the gift, man,
Speaker 1: you got the voice, and you got the guitar. That
Speaker 1: is all you need. I know. But that should be
Speaker 1: put on layaway and people out there. I'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I will wait until two twenty twenty two to give up.
Speaker 1: Kind of somebody's good. It's one thing to be like
Speaker 1: laying foundation, Joel. I'm sure is laying some foundation, right, Joel,
Speaker 1: you're flirting too a little bit. I work, you're working.
Speaker 1: I got the job done at a time. Well, but
Speaker 1: I just I get the job done well anyway. So, Josh,
Speaker 1: you met Donald for the first time our infamous Big night.
Speaker 1: Josh was um my great friend in New York, and
Speaker 1: then I got Scrubs, and um we went through it
Speaker 1: all together. We went through the life change, right, Josh,
Speaker 1: I watched some pretty hilarious things. Yeah, and Donald Donald
Speaker 1: and I were instantly inseparable, and Josh was there with
Speaker 1: us through many an adventure. Listen, man, your best friend
Speaker 1: become famous is is a very interesting thing, and vice versa.
Speaker 1: Dude and vice versa. No, I mean when I mean
Speaker 1: when I say famous, I mean the kind of famous
Speaker 1: that we'd walked down the street in New York and
Speaker 1: sometimes I would walk like, you know, ten feet behind
Speaker 1: Zach through the city just to watch people right after
Speaker 1: they pass him go, oh my god, that was Zach breath.
Speaker 1: Oh my god's the guy from Scrubs. You know. It
Speaker 1: was so funny to watch people's reactions to see, um,
Speaker 1: I still do that to myself in real time. It
Speaker 1: was cool just to piggyback on that, you know, Josh,
Speaker 1: at least I could say for myself. I remember going
Speaker 1: to like the hotel cafe or to like you know,
Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, just the hotel cafe really, and it
Speaker 1: being empty and it just being me, Zach, Mandy Moore,
Speaker 1: and Minka Kelly, and that was it in the in
Speaker 1: the audience watching you perform, and you would go on
Speaker 1: after like some other act and some other act, and
Speaker 1: then it would be just you and you'd get to
Speaker 1: do like three songs, and we'd wait the whole night
Speaker 1: for you to go up and perform. Dude, and that's
Speaker 1: you and now and then so and then so. It
Speaker 1: blew my mind, And I'm gonna say this. You know,
Speaker 1: it's great that you know, the music was on scrubs
Speaker 1: and everything like that, but there was still struggle after
Speaker 1: the music was on scrubs and people don't really know
Speaker 1: that shit. You know, the song was brought and everything
Speaker 1: like that, but you know, it wasn't like you know,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like an overnight all of a sudden instant thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. It's I'm still waiting for
Speaker 1: that big break. Well, Josh, tell everyone, do we ever
Speaker 1: count in? I forgot about six seven eight stories about
Speaker 1: show we made about a bunch of nurses and stories
Speaker 1: never so yead around here, yeato around you here? Did
Speaker 1: you guys see that? Josh, Josh Raydon kaijacking the Five Secrets.
Speaker 1: Usually the guests wait for permission, but no, Josh, Um
Speaker 1: longtime listeners, Zac tell everyone, Actually, Josh is one of
Speaker 1: my few friends. Uh. Josh and my girlfriend's mom are
Speaker 1: the only people left in my life that's still listened
Speaker 1: to the podcast. Your mom doesn't listen anymore. I don't
Speaker 1: think my mom, Well she might, but she doesn't mention it. Um.
Speaker 1: Carrie Brothers mentioned I was on Mark Marron's podcast. He
Speaker 1: like Loved You on Mark Maron's podcast. He doesn't bring
Speaker 1: up this podcast anymore. Um, but Josh raydon Um often
Speaker 1: listens when he's hiking. As I understand it, right, Josh,
Speaker 1: I know Johnny still listens to the podcast. Actually cast
Speaker 1: your podcast for the Well, I've told you this, but
Speaker 1: I'll tell your listeners right when the world shut down.
Speaker 1: I live here in la as you guys do, and
Speaker 1: I live up in the hills, and there's all these
Speaker 1: like stone stairs that go through the hills. These secret
Speaker 1: stone stairs that I COVID got me so scared that
Speaker 1: I wanted to get in good cardiovascular shape because obviously
Speaker 1: the better shape you're in for a respiratory disease of
Speaker 1: you are. So I started running up and down these
Speaker 1: stairs every morning, and the podcast was the only thing
Speaker 1: that got me through. Well, that's great. We've had a
Speaker 1: lot of people say they exercised and inspired them, and
Speaker 1: that makes us very happy. I do have to say
Speaker 1: I didn't get to see you guys for so long
Speaker 1: until we like we formed a pod and then I
Speaker 1: could see you in like in our backyards or just
Speaker 1: our few, you know, tightest friends. But it was like
Speaker 1: I went like a good six weeks, seven weeks without
Speaker 1: seeing one single person, you know, just sitting in my
Speaker 1: house by myself and so listening to you guys talk, uh,
Speaker 1: you know twice a week. Was was just saved my life. Really,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't never talk about that type of stuff,
Speaker 1: being by yourself for six weeks, Josh, other than like,
Speaker 1: I guess face timing, and how did you how did
Speaker 1: you cope with that when COVID first hit, Joell, you
Speaker 1: have your brother with you, right, yeah, Joel has her brother.
Speaker 1: Josh was totally alone. You were dolo basically. It's it's
Speaker 1: interestingly I finished my European tour. I was mid January
Speaker 1: to mid February this year in a different city in
Speaker 1: Europe every day, like hugging people, shaking hands, you know,
Speaker 1: meeting so many different people every day, right when COVID
Speaker 1: was kind of like starting, but it wasn't a big
Speaker 1: thing yet. People were like, oh, what's this, you know,
Speaker 1: And so I got really sick for the whole month
Speaker 1: of that tour. I had this weird throat infection, but
Speaker 1: it was before we knew really what it was. And
Speaker 1: then I finally just got over it. And but it
Speaker 1: culminated in Italy in mid February, you know, which was
Speaker 1: one of the hot spots. Wow, which is one of
Speaker 1: the hots wow? Right then, I mean I was like
Speaker 1: I had to postpone a show in Rome because I
Speaker 1: lost my voice and anyway, So I think I had it,
Speaker 1: but I don't really know. Everybody. Everybody has that story, right,
Speaker 1: everybody has it. I think I had it. I don't
Speaker 1: have that. I don't. I don't think I had it.
Speaker 1: But Josh, did you get the anybody test? Or did
Speaker 1: it go away? I went into our doctor, as you know,
Speaker 1: we share a doctor, and I got the antibody's test,
Speaker 1: but it was like six months later, and they were
Speaker 1: He said, you don't even know if these tests are
Speaker 1: going to give a false positive or pulse negative. We
Speaker 1: don't you know. Anybody's my only last two or three months,
Speaker 1: you know. So it turns out I didn't have them
Speaker 1: after all that time. But my point I was making
Speaker 1: was that, right, I just finished touring this new album,
Speaker 1: all of it, and I thought to myself, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go home and sit in my house by myself and
Speaker 1: write a new album and not see anyone for like
Speaker 1: three months. And then it's basically going to turn into
Speaker 1: a year and a half of not seeing anyone. But
Speaker 1: I did know we at least folded you into our pods.
Speaker 1: We can see you, We see you. You're gonna come
Speaker 1: over for for Jesus's birthday. That's true, and neither one
Speaker 1: of you. You both are freaking yahweh is looking down
Speaker 1: on YouTube like, no, y'all weighs down for us to
Speaker 1: celebrate a very nice Jewish man's birthday. Yeah. Also it's
Speaker 1: actually friend is not Jewish and is a huge Christmas
Speaker 1: lover and she's very into so we're gonna very supportive
Speaker 1: of her first Christmas in la Um. I wanted to
Speaker 1: say that you give up your identity. You hate your
Speaker 1: own people. You two, you hate your own people. Josh
Speaker 1: is skimming over the fact that he didn't just get
Speaker 1: in respiratory shape. He got in the sickest shape I've
Speaker 1: ever seen him in. Yeah he had he No, he's
Speaker 1: got the sea gutters, dude, He's got the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I know him. Oh wait, Joel, you don't like head, Okay,
Speaker 1: so what is this? I just want to know what
Speaker 1: is a sea gutter? Um? I don't want to see
Speaker 1: it in front Juell, Joel, can you take your headphones
Speaker 1: off from go ahead? All right, Joel took her headphones off.
Speaker 1: Um it's the calm cum gutters and um it's funder
Speaker 1: the whoa whoa under the abs right here, um like
Speaker 1: like the V and and theoretically I'm sorry ear moms
Speaker 1: if you're in the car um with your kids. But um,
Speaker 1: it's where the semen would would likely gather like a gutter. Okay,
Speaker 1: so all right, Joel, put your head hold on hold
Speaker 1: on no no no no no no no no no no no.
Speaker 1: You don't necessarily have Okay, she's a grown ass woman.
Speaker 1: You don't necessarily have to be in shape to have. Yes,
Speaker 1: you do the kind of I have talking Brad. I'm
Speaker 1: telling Brad pennon fight Club the v Wait, he could
Speaker 1: catch it in all of it, he could catch it.
Speaker 1: All right, we're traded on this podcast. It's all just audio. Right,
Speaker 1: it's just audio. Show us. Yeah, show show Josh and
Speaker 1: show this. See those look at this ship. Yeah you
Speaker 1: didn't know that. Donald. I didn't know that. The last
Speaker 1: time I saw him he was kind of getting into dude.
Speaker 1: He looks like that now thanks thanks to the podcast.
Speaker 1: What do you got the peloton. No, you got the stairs.
Speaker 1: You got the stairs, the stairs, you got the stairs.
Speaker 1: He was more than that. Though. You can't just high
Speaker 1: can get abs like that dog. He changed his whole diet.
Speaker 1: He changes. I don't know. I don't know where to
Speaker 1: where I would put a peloton in my house. I'd
Speaker 1: have to put it outside. I don't think you can
Speaker 1: do that because then I could back. You eat in dog,
Speaker 1: what you're eating, you're not eating. He doesn't. He doesn't
Speaker 1: smoke weed because it gives him much. You stopped smoking weed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've been eating healthy. He's smoking cigarettes. Oh, I haven't
Speaker 1: smoke cigarettes in years. Good Josh was a big smoker,
Speaker 1: and ladies and gentlemen. He is proof that a hypnotist
Speaker 1: can work because he went to a hypnotist once and
Speaker 1: never smoked again. Right, Josh, it you know I didn't
Speaker 1: have a drag of a cigarette after that for about
Speaker 1: ten years. And then I went through a bad breakup
Speaker 1: with my ex girlfriend and started a little bit again.
Speaker 1: And then about the hypnotists work. Speaking speaking speaking a
Speaker 1: bad break he probably doesn't want to talk about his break. No,
Speaker 1: but speaking a bad breakups, let's just get into the song.
Speaker 1: Now then Ladies and Gentlemen, Paperweight, No No, Donald and
Speaker 1: I have Donald and I share um. One of our
Speaker 1: favorite Josh raids. We played it on the show Paperweight.
Speaker 1: That's one of our favorites. I remember, thank you for
Speaker 1: doing that. I listened to that episode us in so
Speaker 1: many movies. Man Josh's music. All right, we gotta go back.
Speaker 1: We're being bad interviewers here, we're jumping around. I got
Speaker 1: distracted by his sea gutters. Now, Josh h Um, tell
Speaker 1: everyone the story. So, Josh Um, I mean, because you
Speaker 1: just just give everyone a cliff notes version of your trajectory.
Speaker 1: Because you were a screenwriter in You're a screenwriter in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: With with you and I we became friendly being young
Speaker 1: aspiring writers in Manhattan. And then just give everyone some
Speaker 1: some some bullet points of what happened to you. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was a struggling screenwriter. I had I was waiting
Speaker 1: tables and doing you know, catering gigs and things like
Speaker 1: that in New York star artists sort of stuff. And
Speaker 1: then I'd go down to the cafe every morning and
Speaker 1: you know, when I wasn't working some other gig and
Speaker 1: write screenplays. I had written like six features, and you
Speaker 1: and I would give each other notes. I remember the
Speaker 1: first incarnation of Garden State when it was called Largest Arc,
Speaker 1: and it was like sixty pages longer than what I'd
Speaker 1: ended up becoming. But I remember when you gave that
Speaker 1: to me after you had read a couple of mine,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was writing like big budget
Speaker 1: romantic comedies or you know, things that might maybe like
Speaker 1: a Will Ferrell or Ben Stiller. At the time, I
Speaker 1: was like, that would be great if I could get
Speaker 1: guys like that. And you gave me the Largest Arc
Speaker 1: to read and to give you notes, and I just
Speaker 1: remember thinking, this is like real, this is making me
Speaker 1: feel something. I'm not doing it right, and I just
Speaker 1: sort of felt like it sort of inspired me too.
Speaker 1: I had never played music in my whole life. I
Speaker 1: had never grown up playing music or taking any instrument
Speaker 1: lessons or anything like that, and so I was about
Speaker 1: to turn thirty years old, and I was struggling as
Speaker 1: an artist, and I just thought, maybe I'm doing these
Speaker 1: things for the wrong reasons. I'm trying to write these
Speaker 1: screenplays to sell them, rather than like writing what I know,
Speaker 1: or writing what I'm really passionate about, or making myself
Speaker 1: vulnerable in some way with my writing. And so I
Speaker 1: started playing guitar and learning a few chords and learned
Speaker 1: a few covers, and then I knew enough chords on
Speaker 1: the guitar after learning a couple of Dylan songs that
Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm a writer. Maybe I'll try
Speaker 1: to write my own song. And I wrote this song Winter.
Speaker 1: It was the first song I wrote. And I remember
Speaker 1: we were sitting in You and I were sitting in
Speaker 1: my apartment in the East Village in New York, and
Speaker 1: you saw a guitar in my living room, sitting up
Speaker 1: against the wall, and you were like, I didn't know
Speaker 1: you played guitar. And I was like, well, I don't
Speaker 1: really play. I'm just kind of learning. And I learned
Speaker 1: a few chords and a few cover songs, and and
Speaker 1: he said, uh, we'll play me something. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I could never do that. I at the time, I
Speaker 1: couldn't even open my eyes when I was playing the song.
Speaker 1: I was so nervous to play in front of anybody anyway,
Speaker 1: So I made you turn around. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember it. I do remember that you said, don't
Speaker 1: look at me. Don't you look at me wow, and
Speaker 1: uh And I remember this vividly. I played this song
Speaker 1: Winter and you turned around and your eyes were like
Speaker 1: a little watery and it had affected you. And I
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, that's cool. That nothing I've written, you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of screenplays or paintings I painted or anything
Speaker 1: like that, I'd ever I'd ever seen that kind of
Speaker 1: response from someone other than like my mom, you know,
Speaker 1: or dad or you know. And uh, so coming from
Speaker 1: a dear friend, it was really cool and it's sort
Speaker 1: of I don't know. I remember you said to me,
Speaker 1: I really love that song. Um, you should probably maybe
Speaker 1: make a demo of it or something, you know. Scrubs
Speaker 1: and Bills, Bill and Christa. They're always looking for new music,
Speaker 1: especially the music that they can afford, because at the time,
Speaker 1: it wasn't sinks. It wasn't like it as now. You
Speaker 1: wouldn't turn on the TV and hear a Stones song
Speaker 1: or a Beatles song or something like that. They were
Speaker 1: way too expensive. It was pre streaming, so people were
Speaker 1: still making money in the music industry, big legends. It
Speaker 1: was a good time for at the time we were
Speaker 1: making Scrubs was an amazing time for singer songwriters like
Speaker 1: Josh because, like he said, the big famous songs, they
Speaker 1: might splurge a couple of times, as Bill did in
Speaker 1: this show and pay for a big song. But in
Speaker 1: Josh's you know, it was a great opening for a
Speaker 1: singer songwriter because they were they were they were moving
Speaker 1: and beautiful, but gettable and affordable. So essentially it was
Speaker 1: the gold Rush for people like me. So we moved,
Speaker 1: all these musicians moved from New York out to LA
Speaker 1: where the music supervisors and the TV shows and the
Speaker 1: movies are made. And I'd play in this little place
Speaker 1: called though. Oh sorry, but I've skipped over this part
Speaker 1: where the most important part actually, because it has to
Speaker 1: do with scrubs. So you said, you know, maybe make
Speaker 1: a demo of that song. So I went into carry
Speaker 1: brothers are their best friend, into his bedroom. He had
Speaker 1: a little pro tools rag on an old Mac, and
Speaker 1: I just played it live and then recorded a harmony
Speaker 1: over it. I mean, as demo as you can get.
Speaker 1: It's not mixing, no mastering, nothing like, no, it's one take.
Speaker 1: And sent the demo to you. You forwarded it onto
Speaker 1: Bill Lawrence and like, I don't know, like two three
Speaker 1: weeks later, I get a call from Bill, and he's like, hey,
Speaker 1: do you mind if I that that song works perfectly
Speaker 1: in this episode? Do you mind if we use it?
Speaker 1: And I was like, are you kidding? Is the first song,
Speaker 1: the first song you'd ever written that was only recorded
Speaker 1: just with a mic and a guitar on pro tools,
Speaker 1: no nothing else except for one pro tools back that
Speaker 1: it was like Carrie didn't have, like a real studio,
Speaker 1: was like a This was like a little rig we had.
Speaker 1: So the recording we hear in the show is just
Speaker 1: you in Carry's bedroom, Yeah, on a fifty eight mic,
Speaker 1: Like I mean, as basic as you can get, well,
Speaker 1: and then I'll take it from there. I just this
Speaker 1: this section. I remember I always was playing music for
Speaker 1: Bill and he flipped out over this. We I had
Speaker 1: no idea this would become such a popular episode, but
Speaker 1: it was obviously, you know, became enormous. And then everyone
Speaker 1: started searching for Josh's music. But the thing is he
Speaker 1: didn't have any songs. He only had one song, right Carry.
Speaker 1: I remember Carrie when it was airing, Kerry's like, you
Speaker 1: need a MySpace page, you know, so if people search
Speaker 1: for you or whatever. So I didn't. I was even
Speaker 1: more computer or literate back then, although nothing's really changed.
Speaker 1: And so carry set up my MySpace page. It was
Speaker 1: or a little website which is a picture of me
Speaker 1: and a link where you could just listen to Winter
Speaker 1: the demo. And it was really cool because Bill told
Speaker 1: me afterwards, and you told me afterwards that after the
Speaker 1: show aired, Uh, well, you guys were on NBC then
Speaker 1: before you had switched to ABC. So the NBC website
Speaker 1: crashed after the episode aired. From so many people around
Speaker 1: the world trying to find out where to get that
Speaker 1: song or whose song that wasn't Oh my god, well
Speaker 1: there goes screenwriting. I'm moving to LA and become a musician. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I had goose bumps when you told me that.
Speaker 1: Just now that was that's such a great story. I
Speaker 1: mean yeah, and and and it's just like it's like
Speaker 1: when Susan Boyle came out and sang lay miss, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh my god, but I hear I
Speaker 1: didn't hear what you said. I didn't. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: don't get the Susan Boyle. Susan Boyle was that. I know,
Speaker 1: I know who she is. I just don't understand how
Speaker 1: well it was so moving and it was one of
Speaker 1: those moments where I'm very moved, as I'm sure the
Speaker 1: world is, because these shows are so popular. When someone
Speaker 1: comes out and it's Susan Boyle and you're not expecting
Speaker 1: it and they have a voice that makes you just
Speaker 1: your jaw drop and you clutch your head like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, where has this woman been? It's so moving
Speaker 1: she can perform like that, And I'm just saying it
Speaker 1: was It reminded me of Josh being like, he's he's
Speaker 1: thirty years old. He was he hasn't sold a screen play,
Speaker 1: he was feeling, he was going through a bad breakup, um,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden his entire life changed because
Speaker 1: he wrote, has had the courage to write his very
Speaker 1: first song, and the talent well, and I happened to
Speaker 1: be best friends with a guy who was the star
Speaker 1: of a TV show looking for music. So I mean
Speaker 1: it's a combination of as most people will tell you
Speaker 1: in the entertainment business is it's a combination of talent
Speaker 1: and work, but also who you know, and of course
Speaker 1: of course, but but but but you know, all those
Speaker 1: things line up. Of course access is key, um and
Speaker 1: and but but still, Bill wouldn't have even listened to
Speaker 1: four seconds of my friend's shitty song. You know well,
Speaker 1: I will also say that even after that episode aired
Speaker 1: and we're talking about it wasn't like this overnight thing
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden I was like a rock star.
Speaker 1: It was like, man, I remember, I remember to day.
Speaker 1: I mean it was brick by brick still, I mean
Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen years later, and it's still like your music
Speaker 1: industries gets hurt every year, but you are able to
Speaker 1: um make a living as an artist, and so you
Speaker 1: are blessed as we all are in that way. And
Speaker 1: in normal times, Josh tours all over the world, so
Speaker 1: you should always look where what's your website? We'll get
Speaker 1: your plug in now, Josh, what's their website to search
Speaker 1: for where you tour? And shit? Well, uh, Joshua raidin
Speaker 1: dot com and raidings spelled our A D I N
Speaker 1: that's correct. And then what do you do? Josh? You've
Speaker 1: been doing this. We're gonna talk with the episode. Everyone
Speaker 1: stopped freaking out. Um, Josh, what are you're doing? This
Speaker 1: interesting thing? Now? You're doing sort of private home concerts.
Speaker 1: How do people find out about that? UM? On my
Speaker 1: website you can you can see it it's just a link.
Speaker 1: That's it's a company called Topeka Live that started, um
Speaker 1: after when this pandemic started. It's just some guys I
Speaker 1: knew that started this company to help musicians kind of
Speaker 1: engage with their audiences all over the world and play
Speaker 1: live through these zoom shows. UM So I've been doing
Speaker 1: that a lot this year. Um So, you can have
Speaker 1: about you could have a zoom part, like if your
Speaker 1: friends all love Josh, you could have like a zoom
Speaker 1: party in joshull you hire Josh to comply, or you
Speaker 1: can even just have a song with your with your lover.
Speaker 1: It's a bunch of different options, and it's it's been
Speaker 1: very It's I might, I might get paperweight for me
Speaker 1: and Donald. How much Donald do you want to want
Speaker 1: to put that with me? It's pretty cool because the
Speaker 1: company a portion of every zoom whether it's a serenade
Speaker 1: that's like one song and you get like a chat
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, or it's like a forty five little minute
Speaker 1: mini concert you get like six songs, you request the
Speaker 1: songs whatever we chat. You can do like six different
Speaker 1: windows of zooms of people all over the world. If
Speaker 1: you have how much for you to show your Sea Gutters.
Speaker 1: Is that is there an option for that for that, um,
Speaker 1: maybe just for for for Zach and Donald. Wait, hold up,
Speaker 1: do you have a only fans Josh? Only fans? I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what that is. Okay, you need to get fans.
Speaker 1: You need to get you only fans back right away.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, but um, what What also is
Speaker 1: cool about this Topeka Live is that a portion of
Speaker 1: every thing that people purchase goes to this really cool
Speaker 1: charity UM that helps families get out of poverty. So
Speaker 1: it's like a win for everybody. That's really awesome. But
Speaker 1: you need to get an only fans. Yeah, we want
Speaker 1: everyone's everyone wants to see. Only fans will allow you
Speaker 1: to show nudes and let let all your fans really
Speaker 1: enjoy all of you. If you got if you gotta
Speaker 1: show Sea gutters, if you gotta show Sea gutters, get
Speaker 1: you only fans. All right, let's talk. Donald. Are you
Speaker 1: ready with your summary? Josh? We're gonna let you sit
Speaker 1: in because you're a VIP guest as we discussed the episode. Donald,
Speaker 1: as you know from being discussed the episode, am I
Speaker 1: allowed to talk? But yeah, of course we want your input. Okay, Um, Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: let me get my tire, I stop watch and go
Speaker 1: Carlos keeping her last name, Turk's mole is alive, Doctor
Speaker 1: Clox blames Jadep for the death of a patient, and
Speaker 1: Elliot's Bunyan is nightmarish. This episode is a lot, so
Speaker 1: it's hard to summarize in thirty seconds. Brendan Fraser and
Speaker 1: Tara Reid are back, and all of our character storylines
Speaker 1: blend together and intertwined. Other than the obvious, one storyline
Speaker 1: really stood out for me. Who are we when we
Speaker 1: show ourselves to the world? Are you your true self?
Speaker 1: Or do you hide behind a persona? It's always a
Speaker 1: pleasant surprise when you get a positive reaction from a
Speaker 1: negative person. Kelso storyline really softens you up before the
Speaker 1: big reveal at the end of this show. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Forty six seconds for that one guy making the graph
Speaker 1: every day of how long on Donald is one guy
Speaker 1: can lick my my But he's not. It's not a
Speaker 1: negative thing, he just is. He's just doing an artful
Speaker 1: graph of help. Yeah. But the way you're the way
Speaker 1: you're using him to criticize me makes me want to
Speaker 1: tell him to eat a dick. Yeah, you know that's
Speaker 1: sometimes or a guy just making a graph. Um, all right, listen, Um,
Speaker 1: it's a legendary episode, guys. Um, I gotta say in
Speaker 1: in in my eight point five years on this show, Um,
Speaker 1: this is the one that people bring up most to me.
Speaker 1: I think, right, Donald, would you say that I get this?
Speaker 1: I get this one a lot in a musical episode.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's like the sixth sense? Is that the right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think that Bill. Bill has said that was an inspiration.
Speaker 1: Obviously it is the because once you see it happen,
Speaker 1: you get it automatically, like you see when it all
Speaker 1: goes down. Were watching now, watching it right? Watching it now?
Speaker 1: The last time you watch it, you don't necessarily pick
Speaker 1: up on it. I don't think i'd never gone back,
Speaker 1: Like Donald and I have said, we never we never really.
Speaker 1: We'd occasionally watched these when I don't know about you,
Speaker 1: but I would watch them maybe when they aired, and
Speaker 1: then I eventually stopped. And I obviously saw cuts of
Speaker 1: the ones I directed. I would probably seed them all
Speaker 1: up until nine, but I never saw them again. And
Speaker 1: so this one now, watching knowing what you know about
Speaker 1: Ben is really interesting. It's really fun to watch. I
Speaker 1: reckon if you're not watching these as we go back,
Speaker 1: if this would be the one to do it, because
Speaker 1: once you know the ben reveal, it's fun to watch
Speaker 1: it and knowing what you know it really is because
Speaker 1: when it happens, you automatically know exactly what JD's talking about.
Speaker 1: First of all, JD's kind of like a real cavalier
Speaker 1: about time. But also I was gonna say that I didn't.
Speaker 1: I had trouble with the fact that JD's cavalier. Through
Speaker 1: the rest of the episode, he's kind of like joking
Speaker 1: around and meanwhile his heroes best friend just died and
Speaker 1: he was at the helm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it
Speaker 1: so that was that was really interesting to me. I
Speaker 1: was like, wow, that's a I know they have to
Speaker 1: throw a misdirect into in there somehow. I guess this
Speaker 1: is the way to do it, because if you're a
Speaker 1: if JD's affected by this screw up, then we know
Speaker 1: that something it's more than just you know, we think
Speaker 1: we'll think, we'll know it's more than just the old
Speaker 1: guy that died. It's it's got to be something bigger.
Speaker 1: It's really masterfully done. Directed by Chris Kotch and written
Speaker 1: by Garet Donovan and Neil Goldman. Um, it's all the
Speaker 1: writing and direction are pretty amazing. So let's go to
Speaker 1: the top. Yeah, this aired, by the way, on February
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, two thousand and four. Wow, just if you
Speaker 1: want to sixteen think about think about your life sixteen
Speaker 1: years ago. Sixteen years ago, what were you doing February
Speaker 1: twenty fourth, two thousand and four, listener, The divorce was
Speaker 1: like in effect, like I was in a you were thrown,
Speaker 1: we were in courtroom times. I was this is like,
Speaker 1: this is like we are doing it now this I
Speaker 1: had moved out by this point. My film came out.
Speaker 1: Garden State came out in two thousand and four. After this, though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was um I think um fall or or must
Speaker 1: have been octobersh um or maybe the summer was this.
Speaker 1: This was our biggest season two, right? I think season
Speaker 1: two is the highest ranked. I don't know, Joel, can
Speaker 1: you look that up for us? What was the highest
Speaker 1: rank season? I believe I read on on scrubs Wiki.
Speaker 1: By the way, Scrubs Wiki, you guys know, I always
Speaker 1: talk about it, but it's it's got a lot for
Speaker 1: this episode. If you're into that sort of thing if
Speaker 1: you want to do a deep dive on interpretations of
Speaker 1: all the every day have so many moments that I
Speaker 1: don't even know if Bill thought of or Kneel and Garrett,
Speaker 1: but there's like, why is that poster behind Ben? It
Speaker 1: must mean that anyway, Mickhead more important than anything. Mickhead
Speaker 1: has his first line, Donald, thanks Nurses Pinoza. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: doesn't say, that's it, and then he walks away. That
Speaker 1: was his audition. That was his audition pretty much. That
Speaker 1: was like, can you deliver this line? Now? We know
Speaker 1: the characters just come back from huff huffing paint rehab. Yeah,
Speaker 1: from paint which he'll never do again, which he'll ever
Speaker 1: do again. Well, he looks pretty healthy. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: he's just back from huffing paint rehab and then he
Speaker 1: um and and he's but he's he's pretty he's back
Speaker 1: to being a doctor's he looks like he's all right.
Speaker 1: He says thanks to Nurse Espanoza. Pretty well. Does does
Speaker 1: people know? Do people know that that's Mickhead yet? Have
Speaker 1: people put two and two together? Like we know because
Speaker 1: we know Frank and we know that he played Mickhead, right,
Speaker 1: But has the audience put two and two together. Yet
Speaker 1: has the audience said, oh, that's the Mickhead character. I
Speaker 1: don't know, we talk about Mickhead. I don't know that
Speaker 1: they know that that's Mickhead, that that's Mickhead. Because when
Speaker 1: I realized that that was Mickhead, and I'm on the
Speaker 1: freaking show, right when I realized that was with Mickhead
Speaker 1: was when he tried to kill his wife un later
Speaker 1: later must add a huffing paint relapse. Something must have happened, right, God,
Speaker 1: huffing paint is a joke, bizarre addiction. How did that happen?
Speaker 1: Who was like, I'm gonna spray all this paint in
Speaker 1: this bag, all right, put it in this bag, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and breathe all of the paint in
Speaker 1: the bag into my motherfucking knows, Yeah, and I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna breathe and breathe and breathe and breathe and breathe.
Speaker 1: I want to see what happens. But it's what motherfucker
Speaker 1: was just sitting there like it's one thing to get
Speaker 1: you high, but to be like, let me go get
Speaker 1: some fucking blue, right, I need more paint um, all right,
Speaker 1: So Joel just told us in the chat that season
Speaker 1: two is the highest rated, followed by season three. So
Speaker 1: your wife's not taking your name. Now this happened in
Speaker 1: your real life because your wife didn't take your name.
Speaker 1: Did that upset you, Well, it was kind of like
Speaker 1: a sabotage thing with me. So with this, she's telling
Speaker 1: him way before the wedding, So there's like a cushion
Speaker 1: he could he has an opportunity to be like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, or he can say
Speaker 1: you know what, he can get over it, and I will.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna go turking. We'll go through it
Speaker 1: with my wife. We were at the courthouse signing the
Speaker 1: license and I'm like, Donald Faison and her name is
Speaker 1: gonna be Casey and she goes Cobb, oh shit, And
Speaker 1: I was like and I was like, no, but this
Speaker 1: is the marriage part. We're going at the Casey pason,
Speaker 1: this is the courthouse, this is the time in the place.
Speaker 1: They're like, no, we're gonna she was like. She was
Speaker 1: like cop. She's like, but what I will do is
Speaker 1: I'll make it so that if I do decide to
Speaker 1: change it, we don't have to go through all of
Speaker 1: this legal legal paperwork and stuff like that. It's like
Speaker 1: once it's like a one signed thing, and then she
Speaker 1: can change her name. Like to change your last name
Speaker 1: after the marriage thing. It's like this whole big thing.
Speaker 1: But if you sign, if you do a couple of
Speaker 1: things while you're there, you can make it a little
Speaker 1: bit less strenuous to change your last name. So she
Speaker 1: dangled it. She dangled it in front of me to
Speaker 1: keep me from saying, we'll fuck this shit. I'm not
Speaker 1: don't want to get married in oh shit. She's like, no, no, no, no, no, wait,
Speaker 1: before we before you get all upset in all puffy chest,
Speaker 1: here is what I'm going to do for you. There's
Speaker 1: a possibility that i'll change it later. I'll make it
Speaker 1: so that it's not a problem for me to do that. Okay,
Speaker 1: well you know, huh, I complicated, right? No. I like
Speaker 1: that old tradition. I understand why women are more of
Speaker 1: them more over it like why you don't own me?
Speaker 1: Why am I taking your fucking name? But I think
Speaker 1: that there's um, I guess there's it's one old school
Speaker 1: tradition I really liked, but it's not it's not up
Speaker 1: to the man anymore. It's very calm. I have quite
Speaker 1: a few friends, as you know. I spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time in Sweden over the last twelve thirteen years.
Speaker 1: And yeah, for sure, from Sweden. I know a lot
Speaker 1: of Swedish guys that are friends of mine that got
Speaker 1: married and took their wives names. Wow, we heard them correctly, don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna start calling me Donald Cob, Donald Cop.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm gonna call you Donald Cob from
Speaker 1: now on. They already got already got a white person's
Speaker 1: last name. I don't need another white persons. I feel like,
Speaker 1: if you already got already got another white person's last name, name,
Speaker 1: are you fucking kidding me? What about frank That's that
Speaker 1: sounds African to you? What about Frankie fair? That just
Speaker 1: means we came from the same plantation, Joshua Raydon Come on, now,
Speaker 1: come on, now, come on, now, they don't notice y'all
Speaker 1: don't know wahund on. Now, how come they ain't no
Speaker 1: black Washington. How come they know white Washington's? How come
Speaker 1: they know white Jefferson's. You know a white Jefferson? You
Speaker 1: know a white person with the last name Jefferson. I
Speaker 1: don't know a white person with the last name Washington,
Speaker 1: white person. I know, why is that? Why is that?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Pason could have been like a made
Speaker 1: up I didn't I hear what you're saying. I know,
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying about slaves taking their master's names.
Speaker 1: There's a phase on North Carolina. Where do you think
Speaker 1: my ancestors parked when they got when they got taken
Speaker 1: from Africa. I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: There's a raid in Poland, and I think that's where
Speaker 1: possibly my name comes from. It is very possible that
Speaker 1: you are that one of your Radinsky or Radinovich, you
Speaker 1: know something. I always imagine my name was longer like
Speaker 1: Braftberg or Brafowitz or but you could probably there probably
Speaker 1: is a town or something like that. There is somewhere
Speaker 1: where your name originated. And it's not necessarily a person.
Speaker 1: It's like the right am I correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: It sounds like about right. No, Like all my grandparents
Speaker 1: have unfortunately passed away, so I don't really have a
Speaker 1: great resource to find out where my relatives are from.
Speaker 1: But I think it's probably Polish German like I imagine, like,
Speaker 1: you know, somebody like you know, I'm making up a name,
Speaker 1: but somebody like Jason York was from York in England
Speaker 1: back in the day, and when having to describe himself,
Speaker 1: I'm Jason from York and then he became Jason York,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I imagine that's how
Speaker 1: to ship probably happened. So all right, Well we learned
Speaker 1: that JD has a Pinionta helmet. And not only does
Speaker 1: he have a Piniona helmet, he has his own SpongeBob
Speaker 1: SquarePants costume, which he says was a gift from me
Speaker 1: to me. Yes, yes, can I Why does JD have?
Speaker 1: How many times has JD been hit in the head?
Speaker 1: He is a helmet that's specifically for Pinonta parties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he that one. There was that one time or
Speaker 1: maybe twice and he's like, you know what, I gotta
Speaker 1: get my Piniona helmet. Um so, um so here's an
Speaker 1: interesting Ben is back. He's not treating he's not treating
Speaker 1: his cancer. Um as we told you last time, um
Speaker 1: um Brendan was on. He was actually he is a
Speaker 1: super big photographer and had all sorts of really cool
Speaker 1: cameras in this one for those camera geeks out there.
Speaker 1: He's got a polaroid back on a Holga, which is
Speaker 1: something I hadn't even ever seen before. I had to
Speaker 1: google that it was a real thing. But Holga is
Speaker 1: a Holga is a very cheap plastic camera that people
Speaker 1: love because if you put film in it, it takes
Speaker 1: really cool interesting it has a plastic lens. It's really cheap.
Speaker 1: And then he put a polaroid back on it, which
Speaker 1: bought you Alga. Remember that. Yeah, I get them as
Speaker 1: one because people know I love cameras and they're not
Speaker 1: that expensive. It's a great gift. Yeah, I didn't have
Speaker 1: any money, and I know you're like cameras. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: got like forty Holgas. If you want one, I'll give
Speaker 1: you one back for a hank. It's kidding. And then
Speaker 1: so the polaroid back is um is, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I've never seen it, and then I googled. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they didn't even make that film anymore unfortunately anywhere. That's
Speaker 1: just a moment for the camera geeks. And anyway, my
Speaker 1: point is is that later on Ben says, I'll take
Speaker 1: pictures until the day I die. Wow. And then the
Speaker 1: second he first appears, and as a hallucination, he no
Speaker 1: longer has the camera ever again at all. Wow, I
Speaker 1: didn't to you said that. I didn't even I didn't
Speaker 1: put that together. I got that from Scrubs with you.
Speaker 1: I have to there's a few things that that were
Speaker 1: cool that I didn't even know, and that that was
Speaker 1: one of them. This is some sixth cent shit, I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, man. Yeah. Well, the obvious thing is that
Speaker 1: no one, no one sees Ben other than Cox because
Speaker 1: once he's dead. And when you go back and watch,
Speaker 1: it's really clever. How how Chris Cotch directed all of that.
Speaker 1: It's very very well done. There's a whole interaction with
Speaker 1: Sarah where he's pretending to be a public mass. Amazing
Speaker 1: physical comedy by both him and Sarah. And then when
Speaker 1: she walks away and he's still holding onto the string,
Speaker 1: imaginary string and he falls off of the counter amazing
Speaker 1: physical comedy by Brendan Frazo. Yeah, Brandon was so good
Speaker 1: in this episode, so good, so good. He's just so
Speaker 1: freaking charming, that guy he is, he is and and
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest with you. The
Speaker 1: doctor Kelso storyline is so important for this episode. It's
Speaker 1: so important because it's the hard, this this hard character
Speaker 1: who softens at the end, right, And when he softens,
Speaker 1: that's when we as an audience also are let in
Speaker 1: on the big reveal that Ben's Ben's dead and he's
Speaker 1: been dead for a while, and that I personally feel like,
Speaker 1: I don't think that would be as impactful if you
Speaker 1: don't see a journey throughout the show, because there is
Speaker 1: no journey throughout the show and this other you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, there's no journey. Ben's there in the
Speaker 1: beginning and he's dead. There's no journey for Cox Cox.
Speaker 1: There's nothing for Cox really to accept other than the
Speaker 1: fact that his that his best friend's dead and everything.
Speaker 1: There's no journey for him. There's no journey for jd
Speaker 1: there's no journey for anyway. The only person that has
Speaker 1: a journey in this is Kelso and his Kelso and
Speaker 1: and Kelso's journey is so important that it's it has
Speaker 1: to land at the end for Ben's death to be
Speaker 1: even more impactful. Yeah, you know what I mean, I do.
Speaker 1: Is it the first time Kelso's shown any heart at all,
Speaker 1: Because there's a moment in the closet where Judy says
Speaker 1: it's been a hard week. Now, the audience first time
Speaker 1: through assumes that's solely because she's arguing with you about stuff. Um,
Speaker 1: they don't realize that she's also processing this death. And
Speaker 1: then then we know Kelso also is processing stuff. Friends
Speaker 1: with Ben, but you know he shows he I mean
Speaker 1: to me, it was the first time he showed real
Speaker 1: humanity at all. Right, And it's so important for this,
Speaker 1: for this moment to land at the end, because now
Speaker 1: he softened everybody up, He's given everybody the he's he's
Speaker 1: made it so everybody is a relaxed Oh. This is
Speaker 1: a great ending for Scrubs where I feel fuzzy inside.
Speaker 1: And so then when you get punched in the gut
Speaker 1: that we're at the we're at a funeral at the end,
Speaker 1: and Josh's song starts to play, it's even more impactful.
Speaker 1: It's because of Ken's storyline. It's because of kel so
Speaker 1: storyline and how well he plays it at the end
Speaker 1: the closet with Carla, it's so great. It's so I
Speaker 1: wanted to mention that Randall Winston's credit comes up at
Speaker 1: the exact moment that Leonard the security guard is mentioned Wow,
Speaker 1: So someone cleverly timed it. So just as we're talking
Speaker 1: about Leonard the security guard and his afro and his
Speaker 1: hook hand, Randall's credit comes up, because have you ever
Speaker 1: done that? What timed it? So when your name comes
Speaker 1: up a specific no usually key or music key or
Speaker 1: a you know whatever, a music note or whatever whatever.
Speaker 1: Well I'm going in style. Was the first time a
Speaker 1: first feature I directed that had the full hundred piece
Speaker 1: orchestra score. So I think when my card comes at
Speaker 1: the end, directed by I made sure that there was
Speaker 1: a hundred piece orchestra flourish because like in some movies,
Speaker 1: In some movies, like you'll see like in Eddie Murphy
Speaker 1: movies are great for like the beginning of The Golden Child,
Speaker 1: there's all of this montage stuff and then when Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy shows up, you see Eddie Murphy like he turns
Speaker 1: to camera just like a sitcom damn Near and he
Speaker 1: had the big smile on his face, and it's like
Speaker 1: Eddie Murphy the Golden Child, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like I wonder. I wonder, like even even when directors
Speaker 1: or well music people, when they when their title card
Speaker 1: comes up, do they put a little spruce in it,
Speaker 1: maybe you know what I mean, maybe subliminate. The credits
Speaker 1: are added so much later after you've locked and and
Speaker 1: there's and there's a there's a an order that everyone
Speaker 1: has to go and just per contracts, so it would
Speaker 1: be pretty tricky to do it after the fact unless
Speaker 1: you planned on doing it. I don't mean, I don't
Speaker 1: mean to imply that they cut this to Randall's picture.
Speaker 1: I just mean it probably was close and then it
Speaker 1: was kind of like, you know, if he fledge it
Speaker 1: a few seconds, it'll because in the beginning of scrubs,
Speaker 1: for those of you never I mean, I don't think
Speaker 1: we've ever discussed this. They have to do all these
Speaker 1: opening credits because you know, I mean, that's that's just
Speaker 1: part of the rules, the contracts, the guild rules and everything,
Speaker 1: and and they can be distracting. So there's times when
Speaker 1: they'll pause them for a few seconds if a joke
Speaker 1: is playing out to not upstage the joke, and then
Speaker 1: they'll bring them back in and it's just very subtle.
Speaker 1: The audience wouldn't really notice it. So I'm just saying
Speaker 1: they may have fudged a little bit so it timed
Speaker 1: out perfectly as he's mentioned Carla hates Turk's mole his
Speaker 1: tickle button. Yeah, I imagine that's a lot of people's
Speaker 1: first reaction. I remember one time I was at my
Speaker 1: best friend's house. We were kids, and her dad kept
Speaker 1: looking at me like really weird, like staring really hard
Speaker 1: at my face. And I kept looking back at him like, hey,
Speaker 1: is everything okay? And he kept staring so hard, and
Speaker 1: finally he was like, I'm sorry, man, but what the
Speaker 1: fuck is that on your face? Oh? My god? And
Speaker 1: I was like what. He was like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: is that on your face? You got some shit on
Speaker 1: your face? Oh? What a dick? He thought was food
Speaker 1: or something. He thought I had, like doo doo oh
Speaker 1: on my lip. That feels a little bad. I want
Speaker 1: to hug a baby dude who lived Donald. I laughed
Speaker 1: so hard at that moment. Oh, really, you weren't upset.
Speaker 1: I would have been upset. No, I was old enough.
Speaker 1: I was like sixteen. It was that embarrassed after you
Speaker 1: didn't know. It was like it was more like, dude,
Speaker 1: what do you You've known me my whole life and
Speaker 1: you don't You've never noticed this before. He's known me
Speaker 1: before puberty. He knew me before everything, and he never
Speaker 1: noticed that I had a mole off. It's embarrassing, though, though.
Speaker 1: Don't you think, like, were you always awkward around that guy?
Speaker 1: From then on, I would feel so like cringey. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. Man. When I arrived the Northwestern I
Speaker 1: had just done Manhattan Murder Mystery. Uh one scene, As
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned before, I was Woody Allen movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was their son. And this kid I was always
Speaker 1: a good friend of mine. Um, I really liked him.
Speaker 1: And we were walking and he's and we start talking
Speaker 1: about Manhatt Murmistry and he said, supposedly that kid who
Speaker 1: plays the son goes to school here, and I kind
Speaker 1: of chuckled, and he went, I don't really think he
Speaker 1: was that good though, And it was clear he hadn't
Speaker 1: seen the movie. Dude. I thought he was doing a bit,
Speaker 1: but he wasn't, and it told we weren't really able
Speaker 1: to ever recover. Yeah, but it was It was clearly, dude,
Speaker 1: he hadn't seen the movie though. No, I think he'd
Speaker 1: seen the movie. There's no way he'd seen the movie
Speaker 1: and not recognized you, though I don't. I just don't.
Speaker 1: Maybe I didn't have the same haircut and he just
Speaker 1: didn't put two. Dude, I'm telling you, it was so
Speaker 1: cringing and awkward that our friendship died a quick death.
Speaker 1: Oh dude, that's nothing. I remember sitting in a movie theater,
Speaker 1: freaking behind two ladies watching Wait in the exhale and
Speaker 1: there throughout the movie talking about how much they love
Speaker 1: the movie. Oh, this is such a great movie. I'm
Speaker 1: quiet behind them, just enjoying the ride with them and
Speaker 1: everything like that, laughing when they're laughing, and then I
Speaker 1: come on screen and my scene's over and they go, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like him. Him though the movies good, he
Speaker 1: is not. And I remember being like, oh, and that's
Speaker 1: when you just fade right back into that's like real
Speaker 1: time trolling, real time trolling, right in my face. It
Speaker 1: happened to Oh my god. All right. On that note,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go to break and we come back. We're
Speaker 1: gonna have a guest who, hopefully we'll have questions for.
Speaker 1: Josh Radon will be right back after these fine ones,
Speaker 1: and we're ba bring him in, Donald, I mean, bring
Speaker 1: him in, Daniel, no problem, Josh, you're excited. It's your
Speaker 1: first um guest caller on the Scrubs. Rewatch program. Lena
Speaker 1: is joining Lena Lena. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up
Speaker 1: for Lena, Lena, Lena, Lena. Everybody raid that's the josh
Speaker 1: for Radona. Hi, Hi, Lena, Welcome to the program. That's
Speaker 1: don phase on Joel Monique, Joshua Rading Uh, Daniels and
Speaker 1: a broken camera. Lena. If you're ever in the market
Speaker 1: for a webcam, do not buy the Imaging Edge webcam.
Speaker 1: It doesn't work. Apparently the Imaging Edge webcam is really expensive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't ever. If I would, if I had
Speaker 1: the time, I would go on Amazon and give it
Speaker 1: one star. Well, my webcam was about forty nine dollars
Speaker 1: and it's doing great, maybe I sid Yeah, you look great.
Speaker 1: Do you notice how Lena, we're able to see you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Daniels webcam didn't come with that feature. Oh and and
Speaker 1: hear that, Daniel. Yeah. You guys need merch webcams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have every merch thing that is known to man.
Speaker 1: We're gonna sell h fake doctor's real friends webcams, but
Speaker 1: they're not We're not going to source them from Imaging
Speaker 1: EdgeCAM Edge web I I'm still trying to get my
Speaker 1: hands on the onesie, So I have to wait on
Speaker 1: the webcam restocked to Joel. Do you know I'm working
Speaker 1: on that. But I'll give you guys an update. No
Speaker 1: idea we had. We we kind of thought it would
Speaker 1: be funny. We thought we ordered six hundred because we
Speaker 1: were like, there's a lot of people listening to this
Speaker 1: all over the world. Maybe maybe we'll sell six hundred eventually,
Speaker 1: and and that won't be too many to order. And
Speaker 1: they were gone in twenty four hours, all of them. Yes,
Speaker 1: I can't even get one from my from my from
Speaker 1: my family, my wife. Same of it is. We have
Speaker 1: a PJA day coming up at work? And where do
Speaker 1: you work? Where do you work? I'm a nurse. Oh shit,
Speaker 1: it got real. It just got interesting. Where are you at?
Speaker 1: Where are you working at? Yeah? So I'm working for
Speaker 1: the largest healthcare organization in western Pennsylvania. So anyone from
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh will know exactly who I'm talking about. That's where
Speaker 1: I work. Oh, so you're going to be one of
Speaker 1: the first to get the vaccine. So, um, I'm in
Speaker 1: home care, so the vaccine will go to the acute
Speaker 1: care staff first in the hospital. That started yesterday And
Speaker 1: actually my organization was the first to give it, and
Speaker 1: then home care will be the second round. Okay, so February,
Speaker 1: I hope, sooner than that. They're saying by the end
Speaker 1: of January. Okay. Yeah, when you say at home care,
Speaker 1: do you mean you care for people in their homes. Correct,
Speaker 1: So we take care of people who either came out
Speaker 1: of the hospital. So our COVID patients who come out
Speaker 1: of the hospital really they're really deconditioned, so they really
Speaker 1: take more therapy than nurses. But what's also happening is
Speaker 1: that we are so understaffed in the hospitals, understaffed in
Speaker 1: home care, we're running out of beds, so unfortunately, they're
Speaker 1: having to send patients home from the hospital faster than
Speaker 1: they should. So in home care, we're now taking care
Speaker 1: of people with central lines, chess tubes, chemo, and so
Speaker 1: we've become an extension of acute care, and so we're
Speaker 1: taking care of people trying to keep them out of
Speaker 1: the hospital so that hospital beds are open for the
Speaker 1: patients who really need it. So you're providing care at
Speaker 1: how in the home? Yeah? How do you how do
Speaker 1: you staff a team large enough to take care of
Speaker 1: all of the people that you're sourcing now out of
Speaker 1: the hospitals say it sounds like they're because they're running out. Well,
Speaker 1: they have to stretch it some way. How are you
Speaker 1: stretching it right now? So it's funny that you ask that, Donald,
Speaker 1: And if I really figure out the right way to
Speaker 1: do it, I'm going to write a book and I'm
Speaker 1: going to be a trillionaire and then i won't have
Speaker 1: to be a nurse anymore. But here's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: So I'm a supervisor. I actually am in the office
Speaker 1: money through Friday, making sure that the nurses get the
Speaker 1: ppe they need, that all of the patients who need
Speaker 1: to be covered are covered. If we have to prioritize.
Speaker 1: I'm the one who's picking who gets seen and who
Speaker 1: doesn't get seen. So I'm also coordinating with the hospitals
Speaker 1: to say, no, we're not taking anymore. You need to
Speaker 1: find another home care. It's not a safe discharge. You
Speaker 1: need to keep them. So then on the weekends, I'm
Speaker 1: going out and seeing patients. So we're all just doing
Speaker 1: the best that we can. And it's scary because our
Speaker 1: patient list is growing and our staff list is shrinking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was seeing something today in LA that there there
Speaker 1: there are people that are waiting in ambulances because there's
Speaker 1: just there's no beds and La La is running out
Speaker 1: of ICU beds, so they had people. There was something
Speaker 1: I read, I think it was on Deadline about how
Speaker 1: they're literally just the ambulances are pulling up and just
Speaker 1: holding people because they just there's a backlog. What are
Speaker 1: you guys doing there? So I'm in Pittsburgh and we
Speaker 1: locked down Saturday morning. We went back on lockdown, and
Speaker 1: they were saying, don't have a stroke or a heart
Speaker 1: attack in Pittsburgh because there's no ICU beds left. And
Speaker 1: that's a really scary thought. So in home care, what
Speaker 1: we are doing to help is if we can keep
Speaker 1: them out of the hospital, we are so if that
Speaker 1: means that we get telehealth, or we get a social worker,
Speaker 1: or we get family involved, We're trying to critically think
Speaker 1: and keep out of the hospital. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I went about three weeks ago, patient was discharged from
Speaker 1: the hospital Friday night. I went in Saturday morning, and
Speaker 1: I sent them right back to the hospital. So it's
Speaker 1: just knowing what can I handle in the home, what
Speaker 1: do I need to send back to the hospital, it's
Speaker 1: getting the doctors on the phone and trying to think
Speaker 1: and talk and figure out what we can do. Because
Speaker 1: in home care, you're you're in the living room. There's
Speaker 1: no X rays, there's no blood work, there's no doctor
Speaker 1: that I can grab and say, hey, what do you think?
Speaker 1: It's just a nurse standing in a living room. So
Speaker 1: we're doing the best we can with the resources we have.
Speaker 1: Our health system is huge. They have their own insurance,
Speaker 1: they have their own long term care facilities. So we're
Speaker 1: trying to think out, can we just get the patient
Speaker 1: on telehealth and open them, open up a nurse for
Speaker 1: another visit. Is this somebody who just needs to go
Speaker 1: back to the hospital, as much as I hate to
Speaker 1: do that, So we're just doing the best we can.
Speaker 1: We're critically thinking trying to get the patients who can
Speaker 1: stay out of the hospital what they need, and then
Speaker 1: get the patients who need to be in the hospital
Speaker 1: into the hospital. Thank you so much for what you're doing.
Speaker 1: And if you could, let's say you're in a position
Speaker 1: like you are right now where you could speak to
Speaker 1: thousands and thousands and thousands of people across the world,
Speaker 1: what would you tell them in terms of from your
Speaker 1: point of view, what's the best thing they could be
Speaker 1: doing to keep themselves healthy. Oh my gosh, I might
Speaker 1: actually start crying right now, because if you do an
Speaker 1: opportunity that every nurse wishes they could have right now,
Speaker 1: wear your masks, even if you think it's stupid and
Speaker 1: it doesn't work. What if there's a one percent chance
Speaker 1: that you could protect your parents, or your children or
Speaker 1: the neighbor. If there's a one percent chance that we're
Speaker 1: all right and you should wear your mask, then why
Speaker 1: risk it? So wear the mask? Only go out when
Speaker 1: you have to. If you do have to go out,
Speaker 1: be really smart about it. Like I said, use that
Speaker 1: critical thinking and say, okay, well can I outsource what what?
Speaker 1: Maybe I can ask my neighbors what they need and
Speaker 1: one person can make the trip the healthiest of us.
Speaker 1: I understand it's Christmas. I understand it's Tonica. I understand
Speaker 1: it's d I understand that all of these beautiful holidays
Speaker 1: are happening and that you want to be with your families.
Speaker 1: But this is It's not a normal year, and the
Speaker 1: best gift that you can give to the world right now,
Speaker 1: including your own family, is to stay home. If you
Speaker 1: can and if you can't be smart about it, be
Speaker 1: really smart and really think it through. And if you
Speaker 1: don't believe it, but there's a one percent chance we're
Speaker 1: all right, then why risk it? Yeah? Beautifully said? Beautifully said,
Speaker 1: and right from from someone on the front lines. I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys all hear me and Donald talk about it
Speaker 1: because we lost a friend and Josh lost a friend
Speaker 1: as well. But um, but I think people are just
Speaker 1: used to hearing it now and they roll their eyes.
Speaker 1: So to hear it from from a nurse who is
Speaker 1: on the front lines and seeing it day in and
Speaker 1: day out, I really appreciate that. All Right, have any questions.
Speaker 1: I feel silly to segue to this because you have
Speaker 1: a question. We we we anything scrubs related, anything Josh
Speaker 1: Ray related. Yeah, So if I have the opportunity for too,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask a scrubs question, and then I'm gonna
Speaker 1: ask a non scrubs questions. Okay, Oh, that's okay. Josh.
Speaker 1: Josh is just happy to be here. He's happy to
Speaker 1: be eavesdropping. Oh wait, if you know any nice women,
Speaker 1: I feel like a Jewish mother. If you know any
Speaker 1: nice women in the LA area. He's wonderful, he paints.
Speaker 1: He sings, Pittsburgh, I'm available. Oh Josh, you got a
Speaker 1: beautiful nurse right here for you. But I don't think
Speaker 1: a crazy though, yeah crazy. And also I just don't
Speaker 1: think Pittsburgh is going to be where Josh plants his roots.
Speaker 1: But listens and I understand, um, but I'd be lucky
Speaker 1: to have you Len. He's also a charmer. Lena and
Speaker 1: Um and nurses. Being with the nurse is one of
Speaker 1: those things that you hope you never need, but then
Speaker 1: if you suddenly do, you're so well out, there's there.
Speaker 1: I would I think that's great to be with a nurse,
Speaker 1: because you could because I'm always like, what's this thing?
Speaker 1: What is this? Is this? Am I gonna die from this?
Speaker 1: Josh and I am the same doctor and we um
Speaker 1: and he's retiring actually. But the thing I loved about
Speaker 1: him is like, if I hawked up a lugie, I
Speaker 1: could send him a text of it and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: do I need antibiotics? And he'd be like, yes, and
Speaker 1: that's gross. Yep. I get pictures you can't imagine. You know.
Speaker 1: Some people worry about like, oh, there's going to be
Speaker 1: a dick pick I can't like about to say up
Speaker 1: on my phone what I get texted? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we were talking about Joel getting lots of inappropriate pictures.
Speaker 1: All right, what's your question? Go ahead? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: are you talking about online dating Joel? Yeah, I've gotten
Speaker 1: yeah out there. I would I would like to discuss this. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's be let's be respectful and tactful. She's a she's
Speaker 1: a classy woman. Absolutely. Um, what which for you? One?
Speaker 1: Is it the tender that you're getting all these invit
Speaker 1: I tried to do it right and I went like
Speaker 1: frommatch dot com. I paid the money and everything, and um,
Speaker 1: you upload pictures, you describe yourself, and you put this
Speaker 1: nice little narrative like listen, I'm very busy. If you
Speaker 1: need a lot of attention, don't bother to talk to me.
Speaker 1: This is what I'm looking for. And then just the
Speaker 1: DM start and there will be things out of like
Speaker 1: I had one that just said, I bet you taste great. Wow,
Speaker 1: screechy violins on that cow. I don't know if I could.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do that. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I met I think, don't you when you
Speaker 1: hear tales about how gross fucking men are, don't you
Speaker 1: just like I'm just always so. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: about this, but we men don't get sent I don't get.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want and and and please don't start,
Speaker 1: please don't don't want to hear these But when I
Speaker 1: hear these tales, I just can't believe how fucking gross
Speaker 1: men back dick picks aren't even the most shocking. That's
Speaker 1: not that, it's the stuff and they say to you,
Speaker 1: I don't get any of that stuff. Like I I
Speaker 1: go through my DMS like looking for the ship, like,
Speaker 1: let you see what. No, I don't want to dick pick.
Speaker 1: I want to see what my fans are saying to me.
Speaker 1: So sometimes i'll scroll through it and it'll be some
Speaker 1: of the stuff I'm like, oh god, that's heart wrenching,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I shouldn't have opened this. Why did
Speaker 1: I open this? And then some of it it's like
Speaker 1: some of it's like yo, man, fuck you man, Yo,
Speaker 1: your your your podcast is shit. Man. All y'all do
Speaker 1: is talk about shit on the right and on you
Speaker 1: for you let the shit on the left. Y'all know,
Speaker 1: you know you need to be newcast, right. I get
Speaker 1: I get a lot of that with the red siren emoji.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you to make a nurse blush, you have
Speaker 1: to you gotta really, you gotta really put it out there.
Speaker 1: And some of the messages I've gotten have made me blush.
Speaker 1: I have yet to get one of those messages. I'm
Speaker 1: very happy that I've yet to get one of those messages.
Speaker 1: Yet to get the messages, the real question is, well,
Speaker 1: not there's many questions I have about this, but when
Speaker 1: you're asking how crazy men are, which is totally true,
Speaker 1: it's it's insane. But I have female friends that have
Speaker 1: told me things like that before, have stories like that,
Speaker 1: and all these um inappropriate messages, and you're like, my
Speaker 1: first thought was, okay, so you're a guy who goes
Speaker 1: on on match dot com and sends these inappropriate pictures
Speaker 1: or messages wherever, Like is there are you sending those
Speaker 1: to like one hundred women hoping it one time it
Speaker 1: works there? It has to be. It has to be that.
Speaker 1: It's like fishing. They're they're hoping that they catch one.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like, if it's let's say it's one
Speaker 1: out of five hundred, A woman actually responds like, are
Speaker 1: you won you won you did. We spoke about this earlier,
Speaker 1: that one women woman is ruining it for every other
Speaker 1: woman every you, especially if it happens like in the
Speaker 1: first week or the first you know, a couple of
Speaker 1: times you try it where you're like, here's a dick
Speaker 1: pick and you get the response like, wow, I can't
Speaker 1: I know if that would have happened to anybody, they'd
Speaker 1: be like, I'm doing this for the rest of the time.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you watched that UM, that last
Speaker 1: Amy Schumer stand up special, but she had a great um.
Speaker 1: She had great advice for women who get dick picks,
Speaker 1: and she said, if you get a dick pic, send
Speaker 1: back a picture of a bigger dick. When when he responds,
Speaker 1: what's this, you just go, oh, sorry, I just thought
Speaker 1: we were sending pictures of cool dicks. I don't think.
Speaker 1: I don't think. When you get a text, you have
Speaker 1: time to think of the response. You don't have to
Speaker 1: be really clever, really fast, so it gives you the
Speaker 1: opportunity with to come up with something great. So I
Speaker 1: had a guy and feel free to censor this if
Speaker 1: you'd like to, but I not his name. We don't
Speaker 1: want to sense or anything. I don't I don't remember
Speaker 1: his name on one of a thousand whom. I opened
Speaker 1: it up and it said when's the last time you
Speaker 1: got ben over? And made come hard? Oh? And it
Speaker 1: was all misspelled, which is super hot. And so I responded,
Speaker 1: ask your brother. I think he wrote down the date. Wow, okay,
Speaker 1: it gives you time, Like I got it. I have
Speaker 1: to have some coffee think about it. How do I
Speaker 1: want to respond to that? All right? As fun as
Speaker 1: that is, Lena, I don't know that you shouldn't. I
Speaker 1: mean I wouldn't engage, but not to be paternal. I
Speaker 1: don't think you should engage because they can be scared. Okay,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm about to say. You gotta I gotta say, Lena,
Speaker 1: you're such a You're a nurse, You're a very beautiful woman.
Speaker 1: I feel like Joell, we could if you want, we
Speaker 1: could put your well, I don't know if that's going
Speaker 1: to encourage it. I'm trying. If you're in the Pittsburgh area,
Speaker 1: how can what do we do? We could put your
Speaker 1: Instagram on our show notes or something that's gonna I'm
Speaker 1: trying to help beverbody calm down. This isn't we're not
Speaker 1: We're not even not fixed your life yet. We haven't
Speaker 1: even gotten The show is gonna be so fucking long.
Speaker 1: But I just wanted to say, Lena, Um, I don't
Speaker 1: want to encourage that behavior, but gosh, I wish I
Speaker 1: could set you up with someone. Oh no, that's fine.
Speaker 1: I'm so busy right now. You're busy, busy freaking handling
Speaker 1: COVID man romance. Everyone's got time for the a little
Speaker 1: bit of romance. A right, go ahead, Lena, Sorry, what's
Speaker 1: your question? So my question is for Zack and Donald.
Speaker 1: So let's say that somebody says, I want to make
Speaker 1: a movie about the making of Scrubs, how it came
Speaker 1: to fruition, behind the scenes. What young actors now are
Speaker 1: playing YouTube in your mid twenties. Oh wow, good question,
Speaker 1: great question. Well I would play myself obviously, I mean black,
Speaker 1: don't crack, you know. Yeah, so I think Ben Platt
Speaker 1: would play me. Oh that's a good answer, because I
Speaker 1: like so it would be me and Ben Platt pretty much. Yea,
Speaker 1: and more musical episodes too. Ben Platt has a beautiful voice,
Speaker 1: so I would sound even better when I sang, and
Speaker 1: and I think he does. Um, I saw him and
Speaker 1: dearman Hanson and he and obviously he's playing a very
Speaker 1: different character. But but there were a lot of jdisms
Speaker 1: that I liked and saw and respected. I think he's
Speaker 1: very talented. Donald out a kid, the kid from Stranger Things. Man,
Speaker 1: that's my dude. Okay. Yeah, although he's a teenager, you
Speaker 1: need to be he's getting he's getting. He'sn't he's almost eighteen. Man,
Speaker 1: boy got mustache and everything. Now he's growing up. Okay,
Speaker 1: he's getting tall. There you go. There is your scrubs,
Speaker 1: behind the scenes movie cast right there. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: what's your next question? You said you had another one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I'm actually working on my doctorate and nursing. Sorry, Joel,
Speaker 1: this is not the question I told you, but I
Speaker 1: promise it's PC. Okay, you working on your doctor and nursing.
Speaker 1: That's so awesome. Do not apologize to me. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you don't have to, and you don't have to censor yourself.
Speaker 1: You know, we liked anything inappropriate. I'm my doctorate project
Speaker 1: is on decreasing the stress in our frontline managers, so
Speaker 1: the managers who are between the patient care staff and
Speaker 1: the executive management team. So these are our frontline managers.
Speaker 1: M So my question for all of you, especially right now,
Speaker 1: is what are you guys doing to decrease your stress?
Speaker 1: Drinking lots of pino noir, going outside. I like going.
Speaker 1: I broke my toe. I was If you listen to podcast,
Speaker 1: you know I was cycling a lot. The peloton was
Speaker 1: a great source of leaving stress for me. I broke
Speaker 1: my toe. So I'm a little on time out with
Speaker 1: exercise cardio. But I've been going to the dog park.
Speaker 1: We have a big dog park near us, and I
Speaker 1: love I get endorphins when I go and watch my
Speaker 1: dogs print around the dog park, and I don't know
Speaker 1: those are and those are my first ones that come
Speaker 1: to mind. What about you, Josh, We know that you're
Speaker 1: you're hiking. Yeah. I like walking around in nature as
Speaker 1: much as I can, and reading and you know, just
Speaker 1: just getting through it, basically getting through it. We lost Donald.
Speaker 1: What happened to Donald? It's like your question dropped out.
Speaker 1: Daniel will deal with that. Joel, Joel, what is your
Speaker 1: answer to the question. It was like doing Christmas things
Speaker 1: like which sounds crazy, but like you have to go
Speaker 1: all over the place, and like it was like researching
Speaker 1: with a friend and then like calling shops to see
Speaker 1: how we could do it safely. And it is like
Speaker 1: in the spirit of giving back, and it was like
Speaker 1: it was a great way to like both like physically
Speaker 1: get myself out of the house because I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm an anxious person I ADHD and it like going
Speaker 1: outside a pre pandemic. Well like I have um social anxiety,
Speaker 1: m post pandemic being inside so much now, I's like
Speaker 1: just going to my friend's house is like four or
Speaker 1: five times much higher. I'm so anxious. Um So having
Speaker 1: like a goal something to do, a partner that I
Speaker 1: has been safe throughout this whole thing to go do
Speaker 1: it with It's been like the greatest dress reliever. And
Speaker 1: then now I get to send people packages and they
Speaker 1: over going to open them on Zoom And there's that
Speaker 1: whole like giving back like aspect of it that I'm
Speaker 1: just really excited to participate in. So Christmas season for
Speaker 1: the win, I agree that, um you know there is
Speaker 1: I am having a lot of fun buying presents for
Speaker 1: people and and and then we took a lot. We
Speaker 1: had a lot of joy in decorating the house and
Speaker 1: getting I've never done a real full out Christmas because
Speaker 1: I'm Jewish, or at least I'm not. I'm secular, but
Speaker 1: you know, we just never did it. Yeah, congrats on
Speaker 1: your Christmas tree. Yeah, we went all out. We went
Speaker 1: all out, and uh, it's it's fun. I'm having that is,
Speaker 1: you know, decorating the house and making it all super
Speaker 1: cozy has been has been a source of joy. How's
Speaker 1: it going with Donald there, Daniel? He has not responded, well, Daniel,
Speaker 1: what do you do to distress? What do I do
Speaker 1: to distress? You know, I am a big fan of
Speaker 1: electronic music. Um, I've really like biking, riding my bicycle,
Speaker 1: and so there are times usually after work, usually late
Speaker 1: at night, I would say around ten pm. I have
Speaker 1: a very flat neighborhood, and so it's also a very
Speaker 1: quiet at night, not a lot of cars. So I'll
Speaker 1: throw it in my helmet, throw on some headphones, turn
Speaker 1: the light onto my bike, and i will just do
Speaker 1: laps around my neighborhood, blasting drum and bass in my
Speaker 1: ears and just going as hard as possible and letting
Speaker 1: the music just like plow through me like I'm in
Speaker 1: an action film. I always feel like I'm being chased
Speaker 1: by like the bad guys in the matrix. Whenever I'm
Speaker 1: like biking around my neighborhood just listening to super super
Speaker 1: fast electronic music. I come home, I'm exhausted, I've sweat
Speaker 1: dripping all over me, and I just feel, you know,
Speaker 1: alive and released and just like loose and it's it
Speaker 1: feels great, it feels great. I would think that that
Speaker 1: would I mean, that sounds awesome, but I would think
Speaker 1: that would amp you all up. You'd come home like
Speaker 1: all Like, there's definitely a degree it. Also, I really
Speaker 1: try to do that when I am really trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of stress. So I'm already kind of tensed
Speaker 1: up and ready to go and working it out, Yes,
Speaker 1: gets my heart rate going, but also just helps me
Speaker 1: released that stress. So while there's still like a worked
Speaker 1: up heart rate and stuff, there's a much more turned
Speaker 1: down mental state that's like, Okay, we are released from this,
Speaker 1: we are done, and now we can just move on
Speaker 1: with the night and go take a hot shower and
Speaker 1: you know, have a glass of something and go to bed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how about you, Lena, what do you do? You cut you?
Speaker 1: I mean you you're writing this dissertation, right? Is that
Speaker 1: what it is? So when you're a nurse, you're it's
Speaker 1: called a scholarly project, and it actually lasts the entire
Speaker 1: five semesters of doctor at school. So I've just completed
Speaker 1: my first semester. So all I've had to do at
Speaker 1: this point is just come up with the idea and
Speaker 1: turn that in and say this is the background of
Speaker 1: why this is a problem in nursing. I haven't got
Speaker 1: to the actual like getting it approved or putting together
Speaker 1: the actual study design, I think and then actually having
Speaker 1: the experiment I think will be the really stressful part.
Speaker 1: But so for now, Um, the stressful part is so
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a mom, I'm a full time doctorate student,
Speaker 1: and i'm a single mom of I'm sorry, I'm a nurse,
Speaker 1: I'm a doctorate student, and i'm a single mom of
Speaker 1: two active teenage girls your plate. So I'm busy and
Speaker 1: so um, you know, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry interrupt you, Daniel,
Speaker 1: And he's waiting to be let back in Donald. There
Speaker 1: we go. Oh there is right. Stop talking about him.
Speaker 1: Stop talking about him. Hearing you what happened not a
Speaker 1: good signal in that closet. Yeah, I can't tell you
Speaker 1: what I do to relieve stress. That's all. She's a nurse.
Speaker 1: That's my business. She's a nurse, and it's very healthy. Right,
Speaker 1: it's normal, but it's normal. It's normal. Rights, normal, Right,
Speaker 1: it's normal. Right, it is normal, Lena is not. It
Speaker 1: is probably abnormal for a forty six year old man
Speaker 1: to have the libido of a sixteen year old right, No, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: she's shaking her head. You're normal, that's a normal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what. Yeah. I told you, I told you and
Speaker 1: my wife that shit. But nobody wanted to listen to me, Lena.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted to listen to me. Everybody is like, no,
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with you. There's something wrong with you,
Speaker 1: and there's something wrong with your insides, and you need
Speaker 1: to see therapy. You need to see therapy. You need
Speaker 1: to go talk to somebody about your freaking libido. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe Lena King, maybe Lena can give you a note
Speaker 1: for Casey that says this is perfect prescription in prescription
Speaker 1: to Yeah, all right, let me go get a hold
Speaker 1: on no no, no, no no, no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no, come on, all right, let's talk about
Speaker 1: fix your life. I don't know if we can fix
Speaker 1: your life, but if there's any way we can you
Speaker 1: missed Donald. She's got two teenage daughters in addition and
Speaker 1: as a single mom in addition to being a nurse.
Speaker 1: So she's got a lot of doctorate student yeah kind
Speaker 1: of doctor. Got a lot on your plate there, right,
Speaker 1: How can we fix your So this is um. I
Speaker 1: just want your advice. This is what I really need
Speaker 1: from you guys, because you are artists and you understand
Speaker 1: what this is like. Yes, being a nurse was never
Speaker 1: my dream. I actually went to college for musical theater
Speaker 1: and then got pregnant, had to get a real job
Speaker 1: with health insurance, went to nursing school, probably because of scrubs.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie the time up. And now I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a mom and I'm a nurse. And so I
Speaker 1: did a lot of community theater and then that wasn't
Speaker 1: an option anymore because I was too busy. So what
Speaker 1: I did was I sat down and wrote a book.
Speaker 1: I wrote a fiction. I sort of just wrote my
Speaker 1: own fantasy world that I got to escape into since
Speaker 1: I couldn't be an actress anymore. And I felt really
Speaker 1: good about it. I was really passionate about it. I
Speaker 1: was very excited. And then eighteen rejections later from agents.
Speaker 1: I had somebody who said, I'll take a look at it,
Speaker 1: but you have to cut out roughly forty thousand words.
Speaker 1: So I said, I don't. I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1: I have all these people who have read it, they
Speaker 1: love it. I've read it, I've edited it. I don't
Speaker 1: want to take any more out of it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: self publish. So I got the website, I got the TikTok,
Speaker 1: I got seventy five hundred followers on tick talk. I
Speaker 1: put a little teaser about the book. Everyone seemed excited, um,
Speaker 1: and then I really started looking at self publishing, and
Speaker 1: I thought, if I really want to do this, I
Speaker 1: need to get a kickstarter. But I don't have the time.
Speaker 1: I don't know we're gonna be your grit kickstarter because
Speaker 1: we're gonna look your website, what's the name of the book,
Speaker 1: and how do people find out about the book? So
Speaker 1: I guess my question was do I go for it
Speaker 1: or do I shelve it? But it sounds like you're
Speaker 1: saying just go for it. This is a place where
Speaker 1: dreams come true. We're sit we tip pick, we'd pick up,
Speaker 1: we go to the store. We go to staples, we
Speaker 1: get white boards, we get erasable markers, okay, yes, and
Speaker 1: we take those markers to set board and and we
Speaker 1: write down our dreams and goals. Why do you have
Speaker 1: like a why do you sound like a preacher something?
Speaker 1: I like it because I'm trying to get Lena. She
Speaker 1: needs to get up off her ass, go to the
Speaker 1: white bull and race and right down. Wants to self
Speaker 1: publish our own book. Write it down, alright, reverend, reverend, reverend,
Speaker 1: there's so many babies unlatching right now, so many babies
Speaker 1: aren't eating right now. But I'm super excited. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: Donald's right. We we really believe that you can manifest.
Speaker 1: We're big believers in manifesting. From the white board. It
Speaker 1: sounds like it's already on your white board and you're
Speaker 1: about to get the biggest plug you you could ever get. Um,
Speaker 1: which is so funny you say that, sack, because the
Speaker 1: way that I got on this podcast is that I'm
Speaker 1: a witch and I wrote a spell and I did
Speaker 1: a spell to get on this podcast. That was a
Speaker 1: big that's a big right angle turn. By the way,
Speaker 1: much like much like this episode, there's a reveal at
Speaker 1: the end of the Caller, She's a witch. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to ruin Joel's big, big twist, but yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a witch. And that's how I got myself on here.
Speaker 1: And so, just like you said, Jack, I wanted to
Speaker 1: manifest this happening. Are you serious? Are you really a which?
Speaker 1: Because some people really are? Which? Really? Which? So that's
Speaker 1: my altar right behind me with your whiteboard right above it. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm not I'm not trying to. I'm not trying to.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make jokes or anything like. No,
Speaker 1: don't make jokes because it's not religion. How do you
Speaker 1: how do you practice and science at the same time?
Speaker 1: How are you able to do? Donald? That's such a
Speaker 1: good question, very good questioned. Must be wearing off, it's
Speaker 1: such a good question. So, no, the weed is kicking it.
Speaker 1: You thought that you thought I took a break because
Speaker 1: the computer went down? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I need to
Speaker 1: go smoke some red. So yeahbuddy, something tells me you
Speaker 1: dropped out of the zoom right around the time when
Speaker 1: you needed a fucking dropped right around four twenty. That's
Speaker 1: dropped out. Yeah all right, so Lena, we can't go
Speaker 1: down a giant witchcraft world. But Donald, that's a great question.
Speaker 1: How do you reconcile spells and science. So the human
Speaker 1: body is made up of energy and electricity, so everything
Speaker 1: around us, and if you go all the way back
Speaker 1: to the pagan belief, back back, back, back back, their
Speaker 1: belief was very much about manipulating the energy that is
Speaker 1: around us, that all the energy is, we're all connected,
Speaker 1: all of us, and they believed in honoring that. So
Speaker 1: if you very quickly to make this super super quick,
Speaker 1: if you look at the rivers of chi that are
Speaker 1: drawn out by the Chinese back back back back, it
Speaker 1: actually lines up with the nervous system. So way way
Speaker 1: back before we even had science, people knew that there
Speaker 1: was something greater than all of us, that we were
Speaker 1: all connected, that by caring for the earth, we were
Speaker 1: caring for ourselves, for caring for each other, we're caring
Speaker 1: for ourselves. And so I think there is a room
Speaker 1: for Western medicine and Eastern medicine. If you want to
Speaker 1: manifest something in your life, Zach, you actually save us
Speaker 1: a lot on the podcast. You have more magical thinking
Speaker 1: than you probably realize. But if you want to man
Speaker 1: infest things, you're manipulating energy around you and you're creating
Speaker 1: it to happen. However, if somebody in front of you
Speaker 1: goes into respiratory to stress and drops, you don't want
Speaker 1: to burn incense. You want to care for them. And
Speaker 1: that we were lucky that we were able to understand
Speaker 1: Western medicine but still hold on the Eastern medicine. So
Speaker 1: I do believe that there is a place for both things.
Speaker 1: But I do think that when it comes to things
Speaker 1: like creating what you want in life, that there is
Speaker 1: a way to honor that and honor the things around you.
Speaker 1: And I think that my job is a nurse honors
Speaker 1: all of the people out in this world. It cares
Speaker 1: for life, and because of that I get a lot
Speaker 1: of abundance back in return. I'm very lucky in that sense.
Speaker 1: But I do think that there's room for everything. I
Speaker 1: think that all of us can be in harmony, and
Speaker 1: that includes Western and Eastern. So that includes magical thinking
Speaker 1: as well as science. If that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, sorry,
Speaker 1: it was really quick. It wasn't It makes a lot
Speaker 1: a sense. It's like, you know, it's believing in religion
Speaker 1: and also believing that scientist can exist with religion as well,
Speaker 1: and I totally get it, absolutely absolutely So if you're
Speaker 1: sitting at the bedside of somebody who's dying, of course
Speaker 1: you're going to pray for them, but you're also going
Speaker 1: to want the doctor to do everything they can to
Speaker 1: try and keep that person alive. And that's where I
Speaker 1: really try to honor both things. Um, well, we hear you,
Speaker 1: and we respect you, and we respect all religions, um
Speaker 1: and belief systems. Um. So wait, so tell everyone, um
Speaker 1: how to find do you do you got a cat?
Speaker 1: I just want to know, do you have a cat?
Speaker 1: I do? Is it a black cat? No? You are right?
Speaker 1: And its name is Sebastian, all right? And the interest
Speaker 1: of and the interests of episode lines? How do we
Speaker 1: how do We're out of time? Lena? But tell us
Speaker 1: how to find your book? Tell everyone how to find
Speaker 1: your book. Yeah. So if you want to find my TikTok,
Speaker 1: I'm all nurse all the time. All my information is
Speaker 1: on there, and my website is uh Lena l E
Speaker 1: Na nasri and a z as in zebra a r
Speaker 1: ei dot com. And you can find all the information
Speaker 1: on there. And I guess I'm gonna make a Kickstarter,
Speaker 1: so watch for it. What's the title of the book.
Speaker 1: But what's the title of the bight Shift. It's about
Speaker 1: a night shift nurse who becomes a vampire. Night shifts
Speaker 1: were you know, you know how we do because we
Speaker 1: got a little story that we like to talk about
Speaker 1: about a doctor who becomes a vampire and his name
Speaker 1: is doctor Acula. Yea nice, Donald, you like it. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of sex in the book. It's very sexy.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of what sex sex Donald could use it. Wait,
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm sorry, Lena, I think you have me
Speaker 1: confused for someone else. Oh, sorry, apologize, I I I
Speaker 1: can't even continue this with a straight face. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm very Intrina. You've been an awesome guest. Um, thank
Speaker 1: you for being a frontline worker and for all that
Speaker 1: you're doing. And um, and please staycy and thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on. You're an awesome guest. Thank thank you,
Speaker 1: very body. Thank you. Let's take a break. We'll be
Speaker 1: right back after these fine words. Well, there were so
Speaker 1: many chapters to that call. That was a big that
Speaker 1: was that was truly I mean, she's jo Well did
Speaker 1: you know she was going to drop the witch bomb
Speaker 1: at the end hell, yeah, why do you think I
Speaker 1: picked her? I was, sister, let's do that. You were
Speaker 1: you were? You were probably like, what's she gonna start
Speaker 1: talking about the witches? Which I was worried. I wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna get in there. Well, she had a lot to
Speaker 1: say and she's very interesting. But I thought that Donald
Speaker 1: thought that she was kidding. And that's why I was like,
Speaker 1: oh wait, I didn't think she's kidding because she's like,
Speaker 1: she has all her witch gear behind her. I didn't
Speaker 1: think she would of like frontline work and nursing and dating,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden it's so Also, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a witch, and so your book is about the
Speaker 1: book is a sexy book about a nurse vampire. I
Speaker 1: mean that woman in America. I'll doorly Lina, thank you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you should go on that pitch that pitch thing. What's
Speaker 1: the pitch thing on Twitter? Joel pitch thing on Twitter?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm talking about? I thought you
Speaker 1: might know about it. It's like when writers pitch their
Speaker 1: ideas and they they like it's like, um, they they
Speaker 1: put out like a byline or not a byline. They
Speaker 1: put out like a one sentence thing about what the
Speaker 1: plot of their thing is, and then they hope that
Speaker 1: publishers or agents um respond to them. Do you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? Yes, they do. It's called a
Speaker 1: Twitter pitch. It's sometimes they're by different publishing companies. This
Speaker 1: is according to Google. UM sometimes just sort of ramped
Speaker 1: up where people are like, hey, just go for it.
Speaker 1: I guess agents do it sometimes too, but it's sort
Speaker 1: of it's called like pitch mod or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: There's like there's days where it's like, hey, everybody, it's
Speaker 1: pitch mod and I'll be pitching my new book and anyway,
Speaker 1: I digress. Um, So Donald, what's up? Brother? We should? Um?
Speaker 1: We have a surprise for everybody, and that is that
Speaker 1: when we're done with our show, Joshua Raden is gonna
Speaker 1: sing and perform Winter Live for all of you, which
Speaker 1: is a pretty nice treat. Donald, don't you think you know?
Speaker 1: I was hoping for a concert the whole episode. I
Speaker 1: thought that's what we were gonna do. I didn't realize
Speaker 1: we were gonna, you know, talk about the show, and
Speaker 1: I didn't think Lena was going to be that interesting,
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. But you know, okay, she
Speaker 1: she spoke my language obviously. Yeah, I think it's only
Speaker 1: right that if we have Josh on the show, of course,
Speaker 1: that we ask him he could say, he could decline,
Speaker 1: he could say no, I wouldn't have had him on.
Speaker 1: I just want to go through a couple more things
Speaker 1: I love in the show before Josh sing gay Chicken
Speaker 1: along Gay Chicken was funny. You and I used to
Speaker 1: actually play gay chicken. Yeah. I uh, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a tough one to win, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: That always winds that one. Well, I'm willing, I'm willing
Speaker 1: to kiss you because you're willing to make out. If
Speaker 1: you're willing to make out, if you're willing to make out,
Speaker 1: then you're always the winner. I wanted to say. Leonard
Speaker 1: playing playing gin and smoking a cigarette in the hospital
Speaker 1: using his claw hand I thought was funny. I think
Speaker 1: it's hilarious that JD slept with both Sullivan sisters. Right,
Speaker 1: I've had sex with both Sullivan sisters, Um, I laughed.
Speaker 1: I mean shower shorts. Did you think that shower shorts
Speaker 1: was in this episode? I didn't. I didn't know it
Speaker 1: was in there. And also this went on into a
Speaker 1: different television show didn't. It didn't. It's become your Arrested
Speaker 1: Development character. Didn't your arrested No no no, because in
Speaker 1: Arrested Development they have a running them where never nude.
Speaker 1: David Cross is a never knude. He's never naked. He
Speaker 1: wears jean shorts underneath all his clothes. Josh Raiden loves
Speaker 1: that show and I was lucky enough to be on
Speaker 1: that show as a fellow never nude. So yes, I
Speaker 1: guess that's that's wise that you're saying there is overlap
Speaker 1: and that both JD and my character and Arrest of
Speaker 1: Development do not shower fully nude. You're a fucking never nude.
Speaker 1: That ship was hilarious. Portion Rossi goes, you're a fucking
Speaker 1: never nude. Yeah, it was so funny. I got to
Speaker 1: be an ever nude. Um and um shower shorts for
Speaker 1: the man who has nothing to hide but still wants
Speaker 1: to That is one of the funniest jokes. And it's
Speaker 1: got a wallet, It's got a shower short. That's had
Speaker 1: me rolling the shower shorts with the with the wallet
Speaker 1: that zips back. And when he pulls it and it
Speaker 1: zips back, where does it smack him? That's what I
Speaker 1: want to know as no in the ass, I do
Speaker 1: a little jump. Okay um and your male talking, Your
Speaker 1: male talking is hilarious. Dude, your mole, your mold, what
Speaker 1: does it say? It says, um that you know that's
Speaker 1: my voice. And I actually did the puppet for that too,
Speaker 1: for the mole. As we operated the puppet, I operated
Speaker 1: the puppet for the mold. The mold was my voice
Speaker 1: and my hand in the mold. Well, the mall was
Speaker 1: very funny. I don't know why the mall wasn't a
Speaker 1: recurring character that I would have thought the mole would
Speaker 1: have come back, but I guess not. I don't know
Speaker 1: why Bill didn't ever bring the moll back, but that
Speaker 1: was great. Elliot's Bunyan at the end when the doctor
Speaker 1: sees and the nurse passes out, you know whenever these
Speaker 1: whenever a nurse is like a not a normal one
Speaker 1: of the regular like background nurses, and you just know
Speaker 1: she's going to be a stunt woman, because I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't recognize that woman. And then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden she took a big fall when she fainted it
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, she must have been a
Speaker 1: stunt woman. That was funny. That was very funny. She
Speaker 1: must have been a stunt woman because it was a
Speaker 1: perfect fall too. Um. Yeah, and then the word was peons.
Speaker 1: We should talk about this the whole show before Ted
Speaker 1: the lawyer has lost one of his band members, is
Speaker 1: threatening to quit, and the show opens up even with it,
Speaker 1: You'll always be a worthless peon. You're nothing more than
Speaker 1: a worthless peon. And then he turns to you know.
Speaker 1: After Ted hangs up, the pony turns to Kelso and
Speaker 1: he goes, doctor Kelso, my band, the Worthless Peons has
Speaker 1: just lost a member. I think this must be the
Speaker 1: moment that we learned the name of the band the word. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is because they are all worthless peons. I mean
Speaker 1: that's how they all work at the hospital and feel
Speaker 1: like they're they're peons to everybody. Yeah. And then also
Speaker 1: Carla talking about how she's a candy bar. The Espinoza
Speaker 1: is a candy bar, and then Ted asks her does
Speaker 1: the Espinoza have nugata in the middle. Yeah, that was funny.
Speaker 1: I thought I thought he was doing that like as
Speaker 1: a sexual thing, like trying to be like trying to flirt. No,
Speaker 1: he just like no, I think he's trying to flirt.
Speaker 1: I think it's a flirty flirt. Let's let's get to
Speaker 1: the cemetery where it all goes down. Eighteen forty nine
Speaker 1: is when we see the first shot of the cemetery.
Speaker 1: And you know, this has been like the most common
Speaker 1: meme that's ever been sent to me. Though, where do
Speaker 1: you think we are? A moment that happens at nineteen
Speaker 1: thirty five, I got goosebumps. I have to say when
Speaker 1: when it happened, even though I knew it was coming.
Speaker 1: It's just a really cool sixth sense reveal. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: well acted by John C McGinley. Also, yes, and the
Speaker 1: whole episode well, yeah, Zach, absolutely absolutely, you know what.
Speaker 1: I know you need it so absolutely I don't need it.
Speaker 1: It's not about me. Johnny's incredible in this episode, and
Speaker 1: especially at the end when he's crying, it's very moving.
Speaker 1: He's very good at it. And and watching them all
Speaker 1: sit Jordan, Danny and Johnny's sitting watching the funeral as
Speaker 1: he's you know, lowered into the ground and everything like that,
Speaker 1: I was wondering, who's going to be the one that,
Speaker 1: you know, because you forget these things, who's the one
Speaker 1: like I was wondering, does Danny lean on Jordan? Is
Speaker 1: Jordan's gonna lean on Cox's Cox? You know, how does this?
Speaker 1: How does this end? Because there needs to be a
Speaker 1: moment that you know, this family can you know, grieve together,
Speaker 1: because we're not really you don't really see it. You
Speaker 1: just see, you know, And this is a very strong
Speaker 1: and stone wall fan Like these guys are very mean
Speaker 1: to each other. And I was like, where's the break?
Speaker 1: Who's gonna break? And when Jordan grabs Cox, that's the
Speaker 1: first one. But then when jd puts his hand on
Speaker 1: Cox and he's willing to ast, He's willing, and he's
Speaker 1: willing to receive the love from well he's gonna receive
Speaker 1: it from Jordan, but to receive it from his from
Speaker 1: his colleague, from his work buddy. Very powerful moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very moving. And Jordan's character isn't someone who's going
Speaker 1: to emote, and sob and Johnny sees you thinking isn't either,
Speaker 1: but he just finally lets go and she looks over
Speaker 1: at him, and it's very moving. It's beautifully done. I'm
Speaker 1: so we're very blessed and lucky to have the Josh
Speaker 1: here who's going to sing live for you and Josh,
Speaker 1: are you ready? Is everything tuned? Is the capo set?
Speaker 1: I know all the lingo. Well, I just want to
Speaker 1: say one last thing before we get into the raiding situation.
Speaker 1: Josh Man, I didn't get to finish this earlier. I
Speaker 1: remember watching you in Hotel Cafe me Manny Moore, Mega Kelly,
Speaker 1: and Zach Braft, the only people in the place, us
Speaker 1: and the bartender and you and the sound guy. That's
Speaker 1: it flash cut to you at the Troopadore the first
Speaker 1: time you played at the Troopadoor Fire one of the
Speaker 1: best moments of my life to this day, to be
Speaker 1: able to say, to be able to say I knew
Speaker 1: you when this was freaking a whimsical idea and now
Speaker 1: look at you now. It's it's always it always makes
Speaker 1: me smile to walk into an auditorium and hear you perform,
Speaker 1: and then not only that, to watch the people listening
Speaker 1: to you, like I've seen a thugged out dude, like
Speaker 1: somebody that looks like the dude that's on the skateboard
Speaker 1: with the um with the with the ocean Spraye, seen
Speaker 1: somebody like that at your concert doing exactly what he's
Speaker 1: doing to the Stevie Nick song, singing and along to
Speaker 1: the Fleetwood Max song. I've seen that, I've seen I've
Speaker 1: seen you touch people like that, and it's just so
Speaker 1: powerful to see. So without any further to do, y'all,
Speaker 1: I've said enough, Joshua. All right, here's josh Raiden with
Speaker 1: with Winter, the first song he ever wrote. I know
Speaker 1: who I am, I know I walk the record stands
Speaker 1: somehow thinking of Unter your name is the splendor inside me.
Speaker 1: While I'm wait, I remember the sound of your November Downtown,
Speaker 1: and I remember the truth. I won't December, will you?
Speaker 1: But I don't have to make this mistake, and I
Speaker 1: don't have to stay this way. If only I wade
Speaker 1: walk as sob and clear by now. Your voice it's
Speaker 1: all I hear somehow you're calling out Winter. Your voice
Speaker 1: is the splendor inside me while I wait, and I
Speaker 1: remember the sound. If you want November downtown, I remember
Speaker 1: the truth. I want December with you. But I don't
Speaker 1: have to make this mistake, and I don't have to
Speaker 1: stay this way. If only I I could have lost
Speaker 1: myself in rough blue waters in your eyes and I
Speaker 1: miss you still. I remember the sound off your November downtown.
Speaker 1: I remember the truth. I wanted December with you. But
Speaker 1: I don't have to make this mistake and I don't
Speaker 1: have to stay this way. If only I waited. M Yeah, wow, wow,
Speaker 1: that's so beautiful. Josh. Thank you. When I hear that song,
Speaker 1: I go, I can't believe I know the guy who
Speaker 1: who wrote and things that. It's just such beautiful poetry.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. It's very kind and uh, thank
Speaker 1: you for starting my career. Well, I I if it
Speaker 1: wasn't me, it would have been somebody else. Um. Well,
Speaker 1: but you never know. Um. Josh, remind people how if
Speaker 1: they want to do this, um this thing, they can
Speaker 1: book you uh to play to my website Joshua Raiden
Speaker 1: dot com R A D I N and you'll see
Speaker 1: it right there. It's very simple. I change the website
Speaker 1: so it's very simple. It's it's top Joshua Raidin dot
Speaker 1: Topeka Live. You'll see the link. You'll see all the
Speaker 1: options and which the money goes to. But you can
Speaker 1: have Josh play for your loved ones maybe even maybe
Speaker 1: even um you know, this as a holiday gift for
Speaker 1: someone and back when the world reopens and concerts everything again,
Speaker 1: make sure to go see Josh um play live. He
Speaker 1: travels all over the world. Um, it's very popular in Europe, right, Josh,
Speaker 1: Josh is like um, Bruce Springsteen and Sweden. Not very
Speaker 1: popularly of Sweden. No, I have a small cult following
Speaker 1: group of people who know my songs from medical shows.
Speaker 1: But that's fair. No, And and Josh, that's that's that
Speaker 1: you're you're exactly you're you're you're what are you being here?
Speaker 1: Just being dismissive of yourself? You're being self deprecating, Josh Donald,
Speaker 1: you're still here with us? Well I'm here though. Can
Speaker 1: we can we just have Donald admit to everyone that
Speaker 1: I did not mess up my own song? Okay? Fine?
Speaker 1: Is that is that what you're waiting for? Yeah, it's anyways,
Speaker 1: we came on the podcast. Look all right, So here's
Speaker 1: the thing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Remind you
Speaker 1: were mess you did? Mind listeners, what was said? I
Speaker 1: said that he blew, he messed up his own song.
Speaker 1: We didn't mess up his own song. You messed it
Speaker 1: up by not singing the whole song straight through, like
Speaker 1: you forgot some words here. I didn't forget anyone. This
Speaker 1: is the thing. I will say this, sirs, say that
Speaker 1: has happened. And I'm listening you. You've been talking all day, Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, let him have his moment. I'm running the
Speaker 1: stairs when the podcast started listening to this thing, and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you start talking about me and
Speaker 1: how you asked me to play your for your in
Speaker 1: Casey's first dance at your wedding, and you asked for
Speaker 1: one of my songs and it was you asked for
Speaker 1: the song Paperweight, which at the time, UM, I went
Speaker 1: for about eight years or something without playing that song live.
Speaker 1: It was too painful. I wrote it with my X
Speaker 1: and when we split up, I just decided I didn't
Speaker 1: want to play anymore. Now I played It's been whatever
Speaker 1: it's been time. Have you has played it together yet? No? No,
Speaker 1: we haven't seen. We haven't hung out in years and years.
Speaker 1: I would love to see that. Oh we should get
Speaker 1: down on the show Dome. That would be dope, but
Speaker 1: I would for sure either way. What I'm saying is,
Speaker 1: you asked me to play a song of mine called
Speaker 1: they Bring Me to You, and so I did. But
Speaker 1: the live version of that song, it's a different version
Speaker 1: than the recording. Oh, I know because you have a
Speaker 1: female singing with you and it's just so much different production.
Speaker 1: But when you play solo acoustic life, so you have
Speaker 1: to remember. I'm running the stairs listening to your podcast
Speaker 1: and I hear you do your Oprah voice. Of like,
Speaker 1: then he fucked up his own song, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I spit out my water. I started laughing. So and
Speaker 1: then of course I texted you right afterwards. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about it? Right away? You were like,
Speaker 1: first of all, I did not fuck up. I just
Speaker 1: want the audience to know that. Donald asked Josh to
Speaker 1: sing him and his wife's first song in his wedding
Speaker 1: and then made fun of him on front of thousands
Speaker 1: of people because he didn't like the version. Josh sang,
Speaker 1: it's me, It's me, all right, we've gone two hours.
Speaker 1: Don't know. We don't entertain you. I know, right, I
Speaker 1: just but ye that being said, But I do love
Speaker 1: and I love you too, that being said, though. Man.
Speaker 1: At my wedding, when we were sitting up in Zach's
Speaker 1: house getting ready myself, Josh and zach Um, Josh sits
Speaker 1: down and he starts strumming on the guitar and just
Speaker 1: start singing, and he writes a song at my wedding,
Speaker 1: and I then hear the song maybe like a year
Speaker 1: later on a plane ride to New York, and I
Speaker 1: remember hitting him up and being like, dude, that song
Speaker 1: you wrote at my wedding is playing on the plane
Speaker 1: and it's the one where it's like it's a wedding,
Speaker 1: it's a freaking love song, man, And I can't remember,
Speaker 1: but it's like, if you go something like, I'll find
Speaker 1: you something. Come on, I haven't played that song and forever.
Speaker 1: You wrote that at my wedding, and so I have
Speaker 1: to find it now so that Daniel could play it
Speaker 1: out if you laid it down, josh right. It's available
Speaker 1: to an album called of mine called Waxwings. Daniel, It's
Speaker 1: on Waxwings. Thank you everybody. The onesies Joel told me
Speaker 1: are are restocked on twelve eighteen, if you want to
Speaker 1: give the love of me and Donald on your body,
Speaker 1: and thank you to Daniel, Joelle, Lena, our guests. And
Speaker 1: here is Joshua Raden with the song Donald, just beautifully.
Speaker 1: What's the call? When we're together? When we're together, y'all,
Speaker 1: bae Angsky of the water Fire at Nights no pleasure
Speaker 1: without sacrifice. Shore and the ocean, the moon sun, one
Speaker 1: way without the other hand boat done. Now, I believe
Speaker 1: you what's supposed to be supposed to be you and
Speaker 1: me ah you forever because we are the best. Gather
Speaker 1: ah with you forever. You are the old one, and
Speaker 1: we've just been done. Let the waiting new lotion fall
Speaker 1: on my shore. Your glass is empty, porson more. I
Speaker 1: left the table lack of news any time to search
Speaker 1: for you. Now, I believe you what's supposed to be
Speaker 1: supposed to be you and me I with you forever
Speaker 1: because we're the best. Wegether, I with you forever. You
Speaker 1: are the only one, and we've just been gone that
Speaker 1: a mountains to reach to the sky, that kind to find.
Speaker 1: If you forget, I'll do my best to try to
Speaker 1: remind you, with you forever, because we are the best
Speaker 1: when we're together to get forever. You ade on Mone
Speaker 1: and we've just begun with you forever, with you forever
Speaker 1: you are on Mone, and we've just begun