Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two seventy, episode
Speaker 1: three of Daly Like Guys Stay production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's share consciousness. Was saying that little like Joe Nameth, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Broadway Joe when he said I want to kiss you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Anyways, That's how I'm feeling. I want to
Speaker 1: kiss you. I could care less about the team struggling,
Speaker 1: struggling right now. I just want to kiss you, just you.
Speaker 1: It's Wednesday, January eleven, the day on which when we
Speaker 1: look at the calendar we say one eleven, one eleven,
Speaker 1: maybe a wish one leven, one eleven. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's sur friend. There's nothing like palindrome like adjacent within you.
Speaker 1: These days, it's Heritage Treasure's Day, which sounds like like
Speaker 1: what the British like Museum of History would talk about
Speaker 1: the things they've stolen, like Heritage Treasures Day from other
Speaker 1: places we're doing, but it's about I don't know that
Speaker 1: they say, it's about celebrating your own heritage or something
Speaker 1: like that. Would look at old photographs, volunteer at an
Speaker 1: excavation dig because you know those are constantly popping up
Speaker 1: Everywhere's also a National Human Trafficking Awareness Day that's a
Speaker 1: worthwhile cause, National Milk Day, National Arkansas Day, and actually
Speaker 1: a very appropriate day, National step in a puddle and
Speaker 1: Splashed Day for those of us in California. Oh man
Speaker 1: shouts and prayers and all that to the people in
Speaker 1: northern central California, because I know, or you know, just
Speaker 1: above us, it's getting really bad. So I hope you're
Speaker 1: stay safe. Even Ellen, did you see her? She was panicked.
Speaker 1: She was like, God is mad at us, all of us,
Speaker 1: not just me. There's this video where she's like, I
Speaker 1: guess she apparently she has like a creek ordering her property,
Speaker 1: so like all this water was like flowing through and
Speaker 1: she's doing a cell's like it's really bad right now.
Speaker 1: And I immediately went like, let me figure out what
Speaker 1: this property looks like? Really cool because it's not like
Speaker 1: you're doing some like live on the street reporting and
Speaker 1: she has this like a state there. But I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, cool,
Speaker 1: all right, yeah, all right. Now the whole place with
Speaker 1: the Oprah and the Ellen and the Prince Harry estate,
Speaker 1: it's all they had to evacuate about. So all right
Speaker 1: there already, yeah, because I mean five years ago, right,
Speaker 1: there was a terrible like rock slide that ended up
Speaker 1: killing like yeah, man, and there's there's some terrible rock
Speaker 1: slides happening now. It's you know, it's bad when a
Speaker 1: rainstorm where you live is on the front page of
Speaker 1: the New York Times. Yeah, right, but because yeah, we're
Speaker 1: with the you know, the earth has been so dried up,
Speaker 1: just like a little bit of moisture can stuff all
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. And this little drainage pipe that I
Speaker 1: have that's always clogged up, got it unclogged and now
Speaker 1: there's just water coming up through it as if commock me, like, nah,
Speaker 1: you're doing the opposite. Yeah, we're doing the opposite here. Anyways.
Speaker 1: My name is Jack O'Brien, a K Young chap O,
Speaker 1: a k L che E to a K L Chapo
Speaker 1: off the old Block. That is in reference to the
Speaker 1: fact that ever since the arrest of El Chapo's youngest son,
Speaker 1: people have been pointing out that they think we look alike.
Speaker 1: Ship think he's like pretty handsome, he could get it,
Speaker 1: and he's young. And Francesca Fiorentini raised it to the
Speaker 1: level of conspiracy. She said, why does Jack O'Brien look
Speaker 1: like El Chapo Son and why have we never seen
Speaker 1: them at the same place at the same time. Hannah
Speaker 1: Montana over here, Okay, I'm actually not allowed to comment
Speaker 1: on that. Yeah, it's it's you weren't seen a little recently, right,
Speaker 1: I was not. No, I don't know what you're talking about. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I'm thrilled to be joined by my co host, Mr
Speaker 1: Miles Grab Miles Gray A K Soon I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: a big pop book throw my hands in the air.
Speaker 1: I am real scared. Soon I'm gonna be a big
Speaker 1: pop got a back to grabbing case her majesty water breaks.
Speaker 1: Why because I think her majesty might have started having
Speaker 1: the baby. Maybe out out to Christie. I'm a Gucci
Speaker 1: mane at Wobble House for that. Christopher Watt inspired DK. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I am nervous though he knows that because you DM
Speaker 1: me and I was like, bro, I'm sucking tripping over here.
Speaker 1: Thank you for absolutely. Yeah. It's a tough one because
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you should be nervous. It's crazy. It's
Speaker 1: a crazy and a cat. But anytime like you can't,
Speaker 1: it's like one of the most you know, like I
Speaker 1: got married last year. At least, you know that's a
Speaker 1: day You're like, I gotta I gotta pull up on
Speaker 1: this day correctly. Right now, I'm like, huh huh, everything Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I said this on the air.
Speaker 1: I think it was I was saying this off Mike Rebecca.
Speaker 1: I was with her majesty. She had a water bottle
Speaker 1: and she dropped the bottle and the bottle cap broke off,
Speaker 1: like shattered, like the plastic cap shattered off, and she goes, oh, no,
Speaker 1: my water broke What she said in the other room,
Speaker 1: I said, what she's been No, she was like, my bad.
Speaker 1: I did not mean to say it like that at all.
Speaker 1: The cat broke off the water. So that's kind of
Speaker 1: pumpins and needles, but excited. Yeah, alright, well, Miles, we
Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by
Speaker 1: a brilliant writer, speaker, social justice educator who's written for
Speaker 1: Ebony Complex, at the Route and appeared on NBC News, BuzzFeed, Fox,
Speaker 1: many others. They're also the host of the amazing podcast
Speaker 1: BFF Black Fat Fan. Please welcome Dr John Paul Higgus Johns. Hello, Salutations,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me, Thank thanks for coming back.
Speaker 1: I'm always excited. He's good seeing you both online and off.
Speaker 1: I know we got to see each other holiday party. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. A White Elephant gift exchange. Remember, got a
Speaker 1: little I don't know if I should be saying this.
Speaker 1: I'm Mike. I remembers getting a little tense at the
Speaker 1: White Elephant. John got this Starbucks coffee and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you don't want that home? You know, there's no you
Speaker 1: can just give it away. It was the Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was a polite tenseness around me winning a phone um
Speaker 1: basically was like a phone zapper for like bacteria or
Speaker 1: whatever it was. I just don't know where. And that's
Speaker 1: basically what I said. I was just thinking, Okay, here
Speaker 1: we go another electronic product that I have to bring
Speaker 1: home that I have no idea where I'm going to put.
Speaker 1: And so they were like, oh, you could just go
Speaker 1: ahead and take the Starbucks when you could trade it,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, bet And so yeah, it
Speaker 1: wasn't that I was mad about it. It was just
Speaker 1: but it was more than on the other side being
Speaker 1: like you don't like it, huh, Like all good. I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm fine, I just don't know where I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put it because but no, it was all good.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad that I get to see you all
Speaker 1: and you know, on the mic again. And I had
Speaker 1: the goat gifts too, she spot on because I got
Speaker 1: the Mariah carry On Vinyl Christmas album and then Jack
Speaker 1: got the wordld board game. These are guided focus. She's
Speaker 1: honestly one of the best, I would say truly in
Speaker 1: the world. And also for my my little ones, she
Speaker 1: always hooks it up and gets them their favorite toy
Speaker 1: every Christmas. True producer on an. That's the kind of
Speaker 1: like family friend you want to be like. That's always
Speaker 1: think when I have friends with gifts, like you want
Speaker 1: them to be the one that thinks you bring you
Speaker 1: always bring the little ship because those I remember as
Speaker 1: a kid, those are the adults I was always like,
Speaker 1: so and so it's coming over. Yes, they're either going
Speaker 1: to bring ice cream or like stickers or some ship.
Speaker 1: And that's it's such a low bar to like be like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna lay my foundation in your memory.
Speaker 1: I tell people you want to be friends with people
Speaker 1: like me because I am queer and I have disposable income.
Speaker 1: So that means when I'm really good friends with you,
Speaker 1: that means I'm going to spoil your child to death.
Speaker 1: My I'm seeing one of my friends kids tonight, and
Speaker 1: I know he's going to be excited because whenever we
Speaker 1: see him, he knows that that means he's getting dessert
Speaker 1: and treats and whatever he would. I'm really big on that,
Speaker 1: that notion of like spoil other people's kids and then
Speaker 1: give them back. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Yeah. Alright, Well we
Speaker 1: are going to get to know you a little bit
Speaker 1: better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners
Speaker 1: a couple of the things we're talking about. We're gonna
Speaker 1: check in with a couple of white guys who are
Speaker 1: doing great. Yeah, nothing to say here, and uh, the
Speaker 1: UFC guy, Dana White. Dana White. Yeah, yeah. The media
Speaker 1: is just treating it that Dana has gone through a
Speaker 1: tough time. He he feels bad. So we'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about the number one story on the right,
Speaker 1: which is that Biden also had some classified documents. How
Speaker 1: many seven hundred I think like a handful. I think
Speaker 1: they said less than ten or something. Yeah, but there's
Speaker 1: some shadiness to it. We'll get to it. We'll get
Speaker 1: to it. We'll get to it. There's a there's a
Speaker 1: shady element. We have a conspiracy to report on. From
Speaker 1: back in two thousand twelve, Kim Kardashian was flower bombed.
Speaker 1: Did any did either of you remember this? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know where I was what was going on with me,
Speaker 1: but you probably you had better ship to do A
Speaker 1: Yeah I was. I was just way too online on
Speaker 1: the celebrity. But it's like this was like peak what
Speaker 1: Perez Hilton almost? Yeah? Or did press start falling off?
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit before anyway, but like in the
Speaker 1: era of like celebrity gossip websites, it was a conspiracy.
Speaker 1: It was a PR stunt that she was in on.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna talk about that and also speculate about
Speaker 1: what other PR stunts, what other things that seemed a
Speaker 1: little strange at the time might have been PR stunts
Speaker 1: Because this it feels somewhat ingenious. I guess, I guess
Speaker 1: the fact that you guys know about it, like that
Speaker 1: they figured it out. It's also the clearest example of
Speaker 1: a brainstorm where you can like hear the cocaine being
Speaker 1: snorted that I've seen in a while, Like, I feel
Speaker 1: like this is where all that energy from eighties movies
Speaker 1: went was in into the world. It's called conflict marketing man,
Speaker 1: right exactly. So we'll talk about that, we might get
Speaker 1: to the new passion of the Christ movie, all of
Speaker 1: that plenty Moore, But first Dr John, we like to
Speaker 1: ask our guests, what is something from your search history
Speaker 1: that's revealing about who you are? Yeah. So I want
Speaker 1: to say upfront that I am, amongst all of the
Speaker 1: many things that I do, I am a dreaming TV
Speaker 1: writer slash screenwriter. I have written a film. I have
Speaker 1: written a lot of TV pilots. Um. That's my subtle
Speaker 1: way of saying somebody, if you're listening, please wrap me.
Speaker 1: But I I was. I went and saw Megan this weekend,
Speaker 1: and when a great film, Yeah, yeah, yeah, is it
Speaker 1: in three ging is? That's what That's the only way
Speaker 1: I say it. Yeah, Okay, we went and see We
Speaker 1: went and seeing it. I've been doing the dance all weekend.
Speaker 1: But the thing for me is seeing how much the
Speaker 1: how much money went into making the film, and then
Speaker 1: how much money actually has been made from the film.
Speaker 1: There it got my will spending and I was like,
Speaker 1: how does that split actually work? So wanting to just
Speaker 1: kind of go in and better understand it of because
Speaker 1: there's all this talk about money around the film. For me,
Speaker 1: I was just I spent a little bit of time
Speaker 1: this last couple of days kind of googling how someone
Speaker 1: actually makes money when a film like that does really big,
Speaker 1: and then thinking to myself, like, what would I need
Speaker 1: to know or what should I be thinking about if
Speaker 1: I don't like to sell something, yeah, in terms of
Speaker 1: like a film. So that was what I have been searching,
Speaker 1: had been searching, and then ultimately spending a lot of
Speaker 1: time just reading up who's been thinking what about the film? Megan?
Speaker 1: So I would saying it's ultimately pretty fucked up, like
Speaker 1: the when I've had this experience where you hear like
Speaker 1: the director gets a lot of the credit for the
Speaker 1: movie and the actors are like the main people that
Speaker 1: we associated with it, and that's not the case. I'm
Speaker 1: like in the world of plays like the Tony's the
Speaker 1: Big Award is like for play, right, you know, in
Speaker 1: the Academy Awards, like the original screenplay is always like
Speaker 1: I think the most interesting group of movies or usually
Speaker 1: among the most interesting group of movies, and it's not
Speaker 1: one of the main awards that people pay attention to.
Speaker 1: And then when when you like go back and read
Speaker 1: scripts of of movies like classic movies, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: that ship's like all there on the page, like they
Speaker 1: did that, Like that's but but it's not. That's not
Speaker 1: how the incentive structure is set up. No. And I
Speaker 1: mean also once you do a deal, right, like if
Speaker 1: you've got a manager, you got a lawyer, you got
Speaker 1: an agent, that's right there because manager and your agent
Speaker 1: get ten, your lawyer get five. So then you've got
Speaker 1: to really negotiate your fee. And then after the fee,
Speaker 1: what what other sucking things can you get? Like can
Speaker 1: you get a producer credit on it? Can you get
Speaker 1: a whatever? Like what are the credits that you're getting?
Speaker 1: What are the back end points you're gonna negotiate? Are
Speaker 1: you going to have? Like is it? Because the huge
Speaker 1: thing too is what a lot of people like, oh,
Speaker 1: this money made so much money, you gotta go, well,
Speaker 1: first the studio has to get recoup all their marketing money.
Speaker 1: That's the big thing that ends up shrinking the pie
Speaker 1: because they're like, what we have to spend thirteen million
Speaker 1: to get people to get in here. So you know,
Speaker 1: usually at least double the production budget. The budget that
Speaker 1: gets reported is the production budget, but then yeah, they
Speaker 1: double at least double it for the if it's a
Speaker 1: movie that like exists and they're not just like dumping
Speaker 1: in theaters. But yeah, just just trying to be like
Speaker 1: Robert de Niro, you know, trying or what's who? Or no,
Speaker 1: was it Bill Murray who has no reps? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's always so funny insane to me. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a different time, and that's how you end up making
Speaker 1: Garfield because the name of one of the directors is Cohen,
Speaker 1: and you think it's I think it was either Joel Er.
Speaker 1: You think oh, and he was like, oh, the Cohne
Speaker 1: brothers are making a Garfield movie and just went and
Speaker 1: started a Garfield movie by accident. So there you go.
Speaker 1: Is that true true story? Yeah, he admitted that he
Speaker 1: thought it was the opportunities. Oh my gosh, what if
Speaker 1: something you think is overrated? Okay, so I'm ready I
Speaker 1: already know I ca cancel and get in trouble for everything. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say I think Chick fil A is overrated.
Speaker 1: And the reason why I say Chick fil A is
Speaker 1: because one they're building, so where I live, I have
Speaker 1: one on one side of me, and they're building another
Speaker 1: one on the other side of me, and one that
Speaker 1: is near me is near a Best Buy. And I
Speaker 1: can never get into the Best Buy. When I need
Speaker 1: to get into it, It's like I have to go
Speaker 1: all the way around the corner because yeah, because of
Speaker 1: the line, the way that the line is set up
Speaker 1: into the Chick fil A, it blocks both of the
Speaker 1: entrances into the Best Buy. And I just recently, probably
Speaker 1: telling you all way too much, I had to buy
Speaker 1: a humidifier for my apartment and I was so annoyed,
Speaker 1: and I just was like, I don't get it, Like
Speaker 1: it's for me, it's not even so given they are
Speaker 1: very homophobic, very much than this notion of like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, we don't like the gates. Okay, I get that,
Speaker 1: but for me, it's not even that. It's like the
Speaker 1: food is not good. Like I've eaten there one time
Speaker 1: in my life and it was the most bland and
Speaker 1: the most like it just I don't get it. I
Speaker 1: I just don't get the draw and the same thing
Speaker 1: within and out, like I know what I know, people
Speaker 1: go up for in and Out, especially people who don't
Speaker 1: live here. But I feel like Chick fil A and
Speaker 1: in and Out are very much a staple of southern California.
Speaker 1: And I don't understand why. I just mean, because we
Speaker 1: didn't get Chick Fila in California until like maybe ten
Speaker 1: years ago, I'd say, but California, California is reacting to it.
Speaker 1: It is yeah, say we're raising Kanes. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not the greatest. It's like, it's just a chicken sandwich. Really,
Speaker 1: it's just what you need. Is like, there's just because
Speaker 1: I think the difference is there's the chicken sandwiches at
Speaker 1: the fast food places like the you know, like the McDonald's,
Speaker 1: Burger King, Wendy's or whatever, and those is don't hit
Speaker 1: as well as the place that they're like, we do chicken.
Speaker 1: And if you like chicken, then I I makes sense.
Speaker 1: But I haven't had Chick fil A and maybe like
Speaker 1: since the pandemic began, and and I and I don't
Speaker 1: live near one, so I've like slowly just like forgotten
Speaker 1: about it. Uh. And Plus I just like I like
Speaker 1: Popeyes because I like the red beans and rice. The
Speaker 1: chicken sandwich was the only thing I would get at
Speaker 1: any of these places is by far better at Popeyes.
Speaker 1: I am the victim of some like ingenious, shrewd, predatory
Speaker 1: Chick fil A marketing because when I was in high school,
Speaker 1: they sold Chick fil A in our high school cafeteria.
Speaker 1: Like that is when you were at your hungriest as
Speaker 1: a human. Is like yeah, as a teenager coming in
Speaker 1: there and you know, I have my bad the lunch
Speaker 1: and then people are coming away with those like little
Speaker 1: nuggets and the chicken sandwiches, and like I can't not
Speaker 1: associate that, Like I don't go to Chick fil A,
Speaker 1: but in my mind, Chick fil A like that that
Speaker 1: is both smart marketing and should be illegal if it's
Speaker 1: not already right, basically, get them in our middle California.
Speaker 1: I don't California. There were some schools that they would
Speaker 1: they would bring Taco Bell in for the school lunch.
Speaker 1: Basically you can only get the bean burrito. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I can't stand that ship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those hot dogs tastes like I don't even know what
Speaker 1: they're like. They just they're not right kind of gross. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they as they kind of gotten gross. I eat winters.
Speaker 1: You you know, you're like in a rush and you're
Speaker 1: just kind of like, I just need something to eat,
Speaker 1: and what's the nearest closest. We have a Wiener Schnitzel
Speaker 1: next to the freeway where I live, and so I
Speaker 1: usually just zipped through there. And then they also sell
Speaker 1: mountain dew. You I've been on there and I've talked
Speaker 1: to you about my love for mountain dew, So they
Speaker 1: sell by like I know for a fact that they
Speaker 1: have mountain dew and that yeah, h what is something
Speaker 1: you think is under So I'm gonna make a very
Speaker 1: big statement and then I'm gonna make a smaller statement
Speaker 1: under it, because they connect doing stuff alone. And what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is is I went and saw
Speaker 1: so my partner he wasn't a fan of Black Panther,
Speaker 1: and so when I told him I want to go
Speaker 1: see what kind of ever, he was like and I
Speaker 1: just was like, Okay, I will see about myself. And
Speaker 1: so I recently got that AMC Plus pass where you
Speaker 1: can go see all the movies. And what I tell you,
Speaker 1: going to the movies by yourself is nice, Like I
Speaker 1: almost he's probably he'll never listen to this, he'll he'll
Speaker 1: probably hear me playing it, but he'll never listen to it.
Speaker 1: But I wanted to go see Megan by myself, but
Speaker 1: he came along with me, and when we were done,
Speaker 1: was like, I'm kind of glad that he came, but
Speaker 1: part of me was like, damn, this movie would have
Speaker 1: probably been really nice about was by myself. So just learning,
Speaker 1: like really how to enjoy my own company. But I
Speaker 1: really feel like going to the movies by yourself is
Speaker 1: that girl like it's the thing to do. It's my
Speaker 1: it's my number one. Actually, if I have never done
Speaker 1: a free time for some reason, you've never done it.
Speaker 1: So I've seven by myself. I'll go to it's weird.
Speaker 1: I'll have a meal by myself. But I think because
Speaker 1: I'm an only child, I think I grew up with
Speaker 1: going to a movie as like a social thing I
Speaker 1: would do. But at the same time, I love being
Speaker 1: bottling truck and nobody likes to chill with themselves more
Speaker 1: than me. But now that I hear this all the time,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, ship, yeah, eventually I'll get to that,
Speaker 1: But I have never done it. I don't know this pleasure.
Speaker 1: So I'm a type of like my psychological defect makeup
Speaker 1: is that I naturally like without therapy, get I like
Speaker 1: live through how the people around me are feeling, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm just like very sensitive to them and like
Speaker 1: wanna you know, I don't like I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: type there and watch a movie with somebody and be
Speaker 1: like I don't care if they like it or not,
Speaker 1: Like that's all Like I'm so focused on that that
Speaker 1: the movie you're like me, show them somebody Planet Earth
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. Yeah, there's just like so much So going
Speaker 1: to the movie by myself is like really it for
Speaker 1: me because it's the only time I can fully appreciate
Speaker 1: a movie. And it might have something to do with
Speaker 1: going to see something about Mary with my mom when
Speaker 1: I was a kid and turning to me and saying,
Speaker 1: what's in her hair? Oh no, maybe that spoiled You
Speaker 1: saw that movie with your mother? Yeah, with my mom,
Speaker 1: that ship came out. So what, you're eighteen or something,
Speaker 1: let's go see something about Mary. What a choice for
Speaker 1: of that? I love that? Yeah, And she was asking
Speaker 1: you like out of the innocence of her heart, like
Speaker 1: she didn't know and then trying to fig out. She
Speaker 1: laughed really hard, But yeah, what about the zippers? How
Speaker 1: I think she knew what that was? I know, but
Speaker 1: how is that like? Watching that kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: it was comedy with someone's testicles and the zippers and
Speaker 1: you're sitting next year yet not great. I just think
Speaker 1: it's for me. It's the The bigger part for me
Speaker 1: is like I hate I think. The older I get,
Speaker 1: the more I'm learning that don't like to share, and
Speaker 1: it's like having to make decisions around how much better
Speaker 1: to put the popcorn with drink to share with somebody's Like,
Speaker 1: I just don't want to do that. Let me just
Speaker 1: go by myself so I can enjoy the full movie
Speaker 1: experience without having to argue with you over and it's
Speaker 1: not even my partner, it's just people in Gerald. Oh,
Speaker 1: we should go see this movie together. No, we shouldn't.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see it by myself because I don't
Speaker 1: want to have to do with that. Did y'all see
Speaker 1: the talk the TikTok video of that guy in the
Speaker 1: movie theater in Texas who was buttering that popcorn if
Speaker 1: you like, if you care about how popcorn is buttered, well,
Speaker 1: I'm just playing this video for you. Look at my
Speaker 1: man's here. He's about to he look he's butter boom,
Speaker 1: get another scoop on there, flip it, totally, get another
Speaker 1: layer of butter. He got the tech, he got the
Speaker 1: teckers and everything, got the technique down. Technique. He is
Speaker 1: the popcorn guy. But he's screen is around his ankles
Speaker 1: is a three ft high pile of pop That's a
Speaker 1: lot of popcorn that's on the ground. Girl. But what
Speaker 1: I will say is so it's funny because I had
Speaker 1: retweeted that video and I was like, that reminds me
Speaker 1: of when I worked at Starbucks and people would come
Speaker 1: in with all these weird requests for their dreams about
Speaker 1: like how much poppuccino to put in, how much was
Speaker 1: likely versus how it was like actually blended. And someone
Speaker 1: was saying that when they worked at a m C,
Speaker 1: they like long time ago, back in a MC, people
Speaker 1: would come in and specifically be like, I want forty
Speaker 1: seven percent butter, and then I want you to put
Speaker 1: another scoop in, and then I want you to hit
Speaker 1: with another twenty seven percent of butter, and then I
Speaker 1: want you to put another scoop in, and then do
Speaker 1: three packets of salt? Like people are that exhaust like that? Exactly?
Speaker 1: What are weird on the outside for you to do
Speaker 1: it yourself? Get somebody else to do it. Get somebody
Speaker 1: else to do it. You can always take one little hack.
Speaker 1: You just say, all right, I'll buy the tickets, and
Speaker 1: then when if it's a signed seating, you put like
Speaker 1: the three people you're with one place, and then you
Speaker 1: pay yourself all the way. You're like, I don't know
Speaker 1: it said that it was crowded or something. I guess
Speaker 1: everybody she's still open. I don't in case they come,
Speaker 1: I don't want to. Man, all right, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick well we'll let off to the popcorn guy in
Speaker 1: the footnotes. But he's basically taking the joy and out
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, he's he's got a bucket that he's
Speaker 1: spinning on his finger, than filling it up with a scoop,
Speaker 1: than putting like a circle of butter, than tossing it
Speaker 1: like the tworld, though he's using centrifugal force distribute the
Speaker 1: butter topping more. I look at that, I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: sucking respect. Because sometimes you go to a place you're
Speaker 1: like a man, I like a lot of fun. Like,
Speaker 1: look me in my eye, man, I like a lot
Speaker 1: of butter. Man, that's like cholesterol. Yeah, I'm like, look
Speaker 1: me like, I'm not saying just but I'm not saying
Speaker 1: butter that ship. And he looks like a guy who
Speaker 1: understood the assignment. Other people you see, they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: they do like halfway, put a little other half boom,
Speaker 1: They're like, okay, get the gut. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: like you got to put more effort into it. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying there's levels to how people butter it. And
Speaker 1: that's that's God. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right, he deserves
Speaker 1: an Hosker. That's that's a big category in the Academy Awards,
Speaker 1: and a living wage fun even that maybe I don't
Speaker 1: know if you popcorn like that, I think, look, anybody
Speaker 1: was some more money or like start a fucking you
Speaker 1: can start seminars man, like they have flair bartenders and
Speaker 1: like Vegas bars, Like why don't you have like flair
Speaker 1: popcorn people. All right, let's take a quick break. We
Speaker 1: will be right back. And we're back. And there's been
Speaker 1: a couple of incidents over the past couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: When we talked about on here one I had totally missed,
Speaker 1: But Myles, you made the good point that the way
Speaker 1: these stories are being written is leave something to be desired.
Speaker 1: A tremendous amount of grace is being afforded to these
Speaker 1: people who are doing up objectively fucked up things. So
Speaker 1: we talked about match Lap, the founder of spack. He
Speaker 1: was credibly accused of sexually assaulting a mail campaign worker
Speaker 1: during the mid terms. But when you look at the headlines,
Speaker 1: journalists are just using the term groped, like, oh, he's
Speaker 1: accused of groping someone. Oh he groped a guy, rather
Speaker 1: than like, actually, like, look, if you're being groped and
Speaker 1: you don't want some motherfucker groping you, you are being assaulted.
Speaker 1: So why are we why are we mincing words here?
Speaker 1: Like in one of the the interviews that the accuser gave,
Speaker 1: he used the phrase quote pummeled at length to describe
Speaker 1: this physical interaction like this wasn't just like so it's
Speaker 1: a lot of excuse, like a lot of excusing language.
Speaker 1: And I just don't know how we can advance any
Speaker 1: kind of discussion about like rape culture in our society
Speaker 1: when we can't even call out assault as assault without
Speaker 1: some editor getting all fucking torn up about using like
Speaker 1: accurate descriptions in their boarding, Like it just does everyone
Speaker 1: a tremendous disservice and it allows things like oh he
Speaker 1: you know, like people in their minds probably read grope
Speaker 1: and it hits differently than hearing sexually assaulted. And anyway,
Speaker 1: that's so that was again when I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's interesting because most of the headlines say grow, A
Speaker 1: few say actually use the turn, like are actually using
Speaker 1: the correct terms, but a lot are just going this
Speaker 1: quote unquote like using quotes and stuff. It's very don't
Speaker 1: But again in the headline, like it just said accused
Speaker 1: of growing GOP staffage crust, which it's an important distinction. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but again that's one that's afforded to powerful white men
Speaker 1: in this country, especially one who's so connected and in
Speaker 1: the conservative circles. And then there's Dana White, who is
Speaker 1: the head of the UFC, okay, the biggest fucking mm
Speaker 1: A organization in the world. Over New Years, he was
Speaker 1: caught on camera in a violent altercation with his wife
Speaker 1: at a club in Cabo, where she's in his face,
Speaker 1: she shoved him, she's wraps him then he he comes
Speaker 1: right back and he slapped her twice in the face
Speaker 1: on fucking camera. Okay, this is You've been caught literally
Speaker 1: in four K with all this ship going on, and
Speaker 1: guess what crickets fucking nothing like Jack, to your point,
Speaker 1: said I didn't even I don't even I didn't even
Speaker 1: hear about this. I haven't heard anything about Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know why. ESPN, who was one of the UFC's main
Speaker 1: partners along with Endeavor, they're both like mum on the topic,
Speaker 1: like and there there were a few tweets that you
Speaker 1: saw from people wo worked at ESPN. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: we've kind of been instructed to not have any I
Speaker 1: guess incendiary commentary regarding this story. And you're like, oh shit, okay.
Speaker 1: Dana White came out and he said, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I crossed the line. It was a terrible excuse, a
Speaker 1: terrible mistake. There's no excuse. This is the first time
Speaker 1: this has happened. Which I that's that um. And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith took time out on the show just
Speaker 1: to like excuse the behavior. He was even like I
Speaker 1: just wish the best him and his family, you know,
Speaker 1: I know, he says he knows how wrong he was
Speaker 1: to do this. He knows that we're on this. He
Speaker 1: knew ahead of time because I reached out to him
Speaker 1: to let him know I would be talking about it
Speaker 1: this morning. Okay, it's a nice courtesy. He knows that
Speaker 1: he crossed the line that he has never crossed before
Speaker 1: that he swears he will never cross again. So you're
Speaker 1: doing all this pr work for this person, like why
Speaker 1: White himself has said, like for example, Ray Rice, who
Speaker 1: was an NFL running back who like you know, violently
Speaker 1: attacked his then fiance. He was done when that video
Speaker 1: came out. And it's funny at the time, Dano White
Speaker 1: said his career is over. He's like, oh, boy said,
Speaker 1: the second you put your hands on a woman, you're done.
Speaker 1: But that hasn't That hasn't also stopped him from signing
Speaker 1: people that fight in the UFC, that have DV allegations
Speaker 1: against them. And you know, you you look at all this,
Speaker 1: I mean, the full the full weight of sports and
Speaker 1: media will come down on people's like you know, if
Speaker 1: they're black, especially we've seen it, and especially when it's
Speaker 1: objectively inexcusable behavior, it should be called out because that's
Speaker 1: how we move forward. But when you start, when you
Speaker 1: start being inconsistent with it, you don't have the same
Speaker 1: energy because the last name is literally white. Were now
Speaker 1: now you're sucking up on so many levels. I mean,
Speaker 1: fucking Will Smith was jettisoned from the earth when he
Speaker 1: snapped Chris Rock after he made a joke about his wife,
Speaker 1: and some people like, oh my god, I can't amagine
Speaker 1: the stage that she's an angry black all this nonsense, like,
Speaker 1: and I get that no one wants to see that.
Speaker 1: That's whatever. That's that's their own bullshit that they're dealing
Speaker 1: with in a very messy public setting. But again, how
Speaker 1: are we going to protect women or take domestic violence
Speaker 1: seriously if the collective response of the media is going
Speaker 1: to be just a shoulder shrug yeah, or even worse,
Speaker 1: there have been takes from other athletes or other people
Speaker 1: around Dana White who are saying, oh, well, she hit
Speaker 1: him first, Yeah, so it's all good. Nothing to see here.
Speaker 1: I was actually wrong. I did see a headline about this,
Speaker 1: but this was the headline on ESPN Power Slap League
Speaker 1: run by UFCS. Dana White has TV debut delayed and
Speaker 1: then buried down in the article is the fact that
Speaker 1: it was the result of him admitting to a physical
Speaker 1: education with his wife. The do you remember the power
Speaker 1: Slap League? Is this that's horrific idea where people just
Speaker 1: stand toe to toe and are not allowed to guard
Speaker 1: as they just get slapped as hard as the person
Speaker 1: can and people like the day that we talked about it,
Speaker 1: it was coming up, like the premiere of Dana White's
Speaker 1: Power Slap League was coming up in a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks and someone had just died in Poland from them,
Speaker 1: And that's not what stopped it. It was right, yeah,
Speaker 1: just the irony too of like Dana Whites Power Slap League.
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to send him the therapy. That's what that
Speaker 1: sounds like. It sounds like he has a problem with violence,
Speaker 1: like oh yeah around like just in general, and it
Speaker 1: sounds like he needs more help though his own mother,
Speaker 1: his own mother said that he has issues with treating
Speaker 1: women properly. He needs His own mother came out and
Speaker 1: said that like years ago. But again it's just you
Speaker 1: see the protection that is afforded to wealthy people who
Speaker 1: are influential, and you have a media class who's you know,
Speaker 1: just kind of have to It's not always going to
Speaker 1: be consistent. Sometimes it's a strike. Sometimes it's a terrible
Speaker 1: mistake that will never do again, and it was the
Speaker 1: first time, and it's just you know, I think this
Speaker 1: is just all part of our current like media landscape
Speaker 1: where there's so much ship going on. You need to
Speaker 1: inform people what is happening, not mince words, and be
Speaker 1: able to when people are outraged over something like that,
Speaker 1: be able to inform people because they should be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I can add, I think the bigger thing too,
Speaker 1: and saying this is the idea of being complicit with
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. Right, So when you were for
Speaker 1: media company and you see a story like this comes
Speaker 1: out and you you you try to run the story
Speaker 1: because I this is what again the journalism And me
Speaker 1: I can hear someone putting the story together and then
Speaker 1: have someone in the background saying we can't say it
Speaker 1: this way because they're a sponsor, there's money involved, yad YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: But I think for me, this this notion of what
Speaker 1: we're saying is is when we run a story a
Speaker 1: certain way and we're not calling out the idea that
Speaker 1: violence was at the root of it, right, or that
Speaker 1: DV is at the root of it. We're now complicit
Speaker 1: with saying that it's okay to do this, And I
Speaker 1: think that's the thing that really makes me so upset.
Speaker 1: It's not even the idea of race. The race piece
Speaker 1: is important, yes, and I want to make sure that
Speaker 1: we name that, but I think for me, it's this
Speaker 1: notion of we have so many people in media who
Speaker 1: are complicit with all of these terrible things that continue
Speaker 1: to happen. And that's the reason why that that the
Speaker 1: status quo continues to stay where it is, Because the
Speaker 1: status quo is somebody going to ESPN, somebody going to ABC,
Speaker 1: someone going to NBC. That's really and whatever that the
Speaker 1: base level or the tone of that reporting is is
Speaker 1: what is what the country is. So if it's Dana
Speaker 1: Dana White caught in a heated exchange with wife and Cabo,
Speaker 1: then domestic violence doesn't exist. There's only heated exchanges. Heated
Speaker 1: exchanges yet and yet to your point, that is only
Speaker 1: going to erode the our ability to actually properly address
Speaker 1: and be outraged at these kinds of things, or women
Speaker 1: dealing with this and and not reporting it like so,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, we see it in four K in
Speaker 1: this case, but how many other women in and you know,
Speaker 1: positions of a who are married to are connected to
Speaker 1: people with power, are not sharing the fact that they
Speaker 1: were beat up in a in an elevator, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and it's again the absolute power of whatever
Speaker 1: is the most profitable thing winning out in in the US.
Speaker 1: And yeah, any any you know example of royal corruption
Speaker 1: and ship it's like, yeah, we will excuse at worst
Speaker 1: behavior and in order quite literally. Yeah, all right, well
Speaker 1: let's talk about excusing the worst behavior further proving the
Speaker 1: classified documents are basically pokemon for elderly politicians. Joe Biden
Speaker 1: had a small number of classified documents you too, He
Speaker 1: had m you too, not a charge, but these were
Speaker 1: from his time as p VP, and they were found
Speaker 1: in private office by his lawyers while they're packing files.
Speaker 1: Last Paul. You know, people on the right are immediately
Speaker 1: comparing it to Trump smart Lago document hoarding, which I
Speaker 1: think is probably gonna be very effective right with their listeners,
Speaker 1: with their viewers, that the same thing. Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, you know, it doesn't matter for that group.
Speaker 1: They could have a million exactly. Also, I don't know
Speaker 1: any of the words I got the since guy gave
Speaker 1: a pigeon. Yeah, two things that are happening here though.
Speaker 1: So the thing that distinguishes it from Trump's, you know,
Speaker 1: intentional long term hoarding was that Biden was never notified
Speaker 1: he had the records, nor was he asked to return them,
Speaker 1: and as soon as they were found, his team informed
Speaker 1: the government and they were handed back within a day.
Speaker 1: Whereas Trump had boxes of documents, ignored requests to return them,
Speaker 1: even when he allowed some to go back, he seek
Speaker 1: really hoarded more, necessitating the grand jury subpoena. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of the difference between like forgetting to return a
Speaker 1: library book you didn't realize was still checked out and
Speaker 1: you know, trying to burn the library down, or trying
Speaker 1: to like blackmail the library with like I don't know,
Speaker 1: we're just trying to steal like a whole section of
Speaker 1: the whole section of the library. You're like, hold on,
Speaker 1: are you checking those out there? Because I mean was
Speaker 1: second floor empty? Yeah? What what happened to all the
Speaker 1: y A romance novels? Were a man took them? But
Speaker 1: he really was going through documents like he was record shopping.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah that was spicy. Ah, I like that one.
Speaker 1: And that's again, I think the biggest thing is just
Speaker 1: the timing of it, because what we so this is
Speaker 1: the other thing, the other big thing that's happening here
Speaker 1: that kind of ties in with the story that we
Speaker 1: talked about. I think in last week's episode about pet
Speaker 1: Buddha Jedge was in charge, like was the only federal
Speaker 1: employee who was able to do anything about the Southwest
Speaker 1: fiasco meltdown that left a bunch of consumers stranded, and
Speaker 1: Southwest just was like as sorry, them's the brakes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and the mainstream media did seem to just be
Speaker 1: somewhat complicit in that. In this case, Biden's documents were
Speaker 1: found back in November, just weeks before the mid terms,
Speaker 1: but they waited until now to announce it, presumably because
Speaker 1: of potential political blowback. So I guess it's not the
Speaker 1: media knowing about it in this case, but it is
Speaker 1: them sitting on it. To be on it. They're like,
Speaker 1: I wonder what happened to Like a, um, I gotta
Speaker 1: talk to you. Uh, the President had some classified documents
Speaker 1: that work we had to return, and like the chief
Speaker 1: stuffs like fuck yeah, exactly, Okay, fucking wait, like can
Speaker 1: we wait a month? Yeah? Fucking I can't I can't
Speaker 1: have yeah right, yeah, So whatever CBS was really like
Speaker 1: some of their headlines was like Biden also has classified documents.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have the both sides in. There's some real
Speaker 1: interesting both sides and going on do with this story.
Speaker 1: It's just a little bit like, Okay, like, are y'all
Speaker 1: gonna focus on what's happening with the house right now?
Speaker 1: Because they are they have lost the plot over there. Fully,
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, we gotta get this fucking deficit under control.
Speaker 1: I think they're like the latest like budget thing that
Speaker 1: they're putting forward, like puts us over like a hundred
Speaker 1: billion already, like with no no thought of like this
Speaker 1: deficit that they were so mindful of. But anyway, he also,
Speaker 1: I think they're voting to abolish the I R S.
Speaker 1: And not not the ICE that they should vote to
Speaker 1: abolish ice, not actually, but the new I R S Agents,
Speaker 1: which we know famously go after the wealthy people, which
Speaker 1: is because my dad's broadcast was audited in ninety three.
Speaker 1: We don't know why. But I'm like, he's like, I
Speaker 1: don't gotta ship then is this about also the pre internet?
Speaker 1: He's like, I gotta file all these paper ship all
Speaker 1: my taxes for this many years. But it's just it's
Speaker 1: a joke too, And like you know, they're they're clearly
Speaker 1: laying the groundwork for some really like an attack on
Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community too, because they've already one of the
Speaker 1: first orders of business was reversing the gender neutral language
Speaker 1: that was introduced in one and also being like, and
Speaker 1: nobody should be getting trouble if they want to use
Speaker 1: gender terms whenever they want, Like they're just already they're like,
Speaker 1: take that stuff down, take that out, this, this, this, this,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be We're pretty despicable, i'd imagine. Yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: let's take one more break. We'll be back to talk
Speaker 1: pop culture and other silly stuff. And we're back. And
Speaker 1: this is this is our JFK assassination conspiracy. This is
Speaker 1: our yeah, for our generation. So back in two thousand twelve,
Speaker 1: you might remember I didn't, but you guys did. Kim
Speaker 1: Kardashian flower bombed. She was being interviewed on the red carpet.
Speaker 1: Someone came up and I thought it was going to
Speaker 1: be more like violent than it was. It was more
Speaker 1: of like she was sprinkled with flower. Her head did
Speaker 1: go back and to the left as as it happened,
Speaker 1: but she was at an event launching her new perfume.
Speaker 1: It drew attention to the product in the seriousness of
Speaker 1: begging ingredient based attacks like police were called and everything,
Speaker 1: like Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department says deputies were called
Speaker 1: to the London hotel because somebody threw powder on her
Speaker 1: and you know, you don't know that it's flower exactly
Speaker 1: be the cocaine that her pr agent was doing. When
Speaker 1: so that's a that's an expensive prank. Yes, I want
Speaker 1: to throw like a quarter pound of cocaine on somebody. Okay,
Speaker 1: do you I've got eight ounces of money. She bravely
Speaker 1: refused medical treatment at the time. Paramedics were called to
Speaker 1: the hotel, but Kardasisan refused medical treatment and described it
Speaker 1: as the most craziest, unexpected, weird thing that ever happened
Speaker 1: to me. Do you want to jack you said you've
Speaker 1: never seen it. Do you want to see the Do
Speaker 1: you want to watch the video? The story? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: mean the audio is just interesting because she's giving an
Speaker 1: interview and the person just utters for hag because it
Speaker 1: was like an anti fur protest, supposedly, but given an interview,
Speaker 1: she's talking, she's talking. Oh, here comes a person from
Speaker 1: the back with the bag. Here's the thing though, This
Speaker 1: is the beginning of Kim Kardashian's terrible acting career, because
Speaker 1: knowing what we know now her her reactions are very
Speaker 1: like I knew that she was gonna she was like
Speaker 1: feigning outrage. She's like, oh no, but she's smiling. She's
Speaker 1: smiling right here, she's smiling. Oh ship, it happened the
Speaker 1: recording to plan anyway, So what were you saying about
Speaker 1: this in and then walks off with her head down
Speaker 1: like almost like trying to stifle a laugh. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Or it was kind of doing that thing
Speaker 1: where like someone through a like on a reality show
Speaker 1: where someone throws a drink on someone and they're not
Speaker 1: trying to let that phase them, so they go right,
Speaker 1: oh okay, right and just wipe the drink off their hair.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. Anyways, recently learned that it was all
Speaker 1: a PR stunt. She was totally in on it. Her
Speaker 1: PR agent and her planned the Foe attack in order
Speaker 1: to create a media moment. She supposedly told Kim Kardashian.
Speaker 1: If we create media gold, guess what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Everyone's going to be talking about your perfume. Everyone's going
Speaker 1: to buy it. Did that happen? I'm wearing it right now? Okay,
Speaker 1: But I thought you were saying you always wear white diamonds.
Speaker 1: You said, yeah, it's a little, it's a milange. Didn't
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise have something similar happen to him to where
Speaker 1: he got flower bombed? It literally they got sprayed with
Speaker 1: a squirt gun. I think was it? I thought he
Speaker 1: got flower bombed too. I think he did so well,
Speaker 1: or maybe he got glitter bombed. He got I think heat. Wait,
Speaker 1: let's see there's a whole thing he said was get attacked,
Speaker 1: glutter bomb, flower bomb? Uh, Kim got the flower? Who
Speaker 1: is this? I think Lindsay Lohan got hit with glitter
Speaker 1: and flower? Oh yeah? What? Yeah? What? What? Something? I
Speaker 1: don't know that looks like a liquid on. Maybe he
Speaker 1: did get wet. He did at one point get spread
Speaker 1: with a squirk gun. And I just remember because he
Speaker 1: he has this like very friendly facade. But when he
Speaker 1: got sprayed with a squirk gun, it went away. It
Speaker 1: was because I thought this was a part of something
Speaker 1: about Mary. Somebody has what is happening in this picture?
Speaker 1: So yeah, he got mad Lindsay Lohan and the screen
Speaker 1: cap that they used of her glitter Bama Tech looks
Speaker 1: like she's being hit with molten metal. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: know that This is interesting to me because it suggests that,
Speaker 1: like there are those times where you hear a conspiracy theory,
Speaker 1: like I had recently heard that all the Don't Worry
Speaker 1: Darling extreme media push controversy was all part of some
Speaker 1: four D chess plan and it did seem to like
Speaker 1: it had a big opening weekend and then kind of
Speaker 1: died off after that. But that is a big opening
Speaker 1: weekend is usually a testament to a really successful media push,
Speaker 1: And I don't know like this. So first of all,
Speaker 1: it's such a bad idea, like to say out loud,
Speaker 1: We're going to make people buy your perfume by dumping
Speaker 1: flower on your head. But it is also like the
Speaker 1: it was definitely like conceived by someone who was doing
Speaker 1: too many stimulants I think, whether it be coffee or
Speaker 1: what it was, but it's it does kind of open
Speaker 1: my mind to Okay, I'm going to be viewing any
Speaker 1: anything like this in the future through new glasses because
Speaker 1: of this, right yeah, I mean it makes sense because
Speaker 1: so much is like celebrity is such a spectacle that
Speaker 1: all you have to do is, you know, think a
Speaker 1: little bit ahead of how people are going to respond
Speaker 1: to what's happening to a celebrity, and you get this
Speaker 1: kind of ship like all the time, or like it
Speaker 1: would be like, oh, if someone does this, then it's popping.
Speaker 1: If you've got all this talk around, you know, the
Speaker 1: stuff that was going on set or whatever, people are
Speaker 1: going to be talking because I feel like it's the
Speaker 1: days we used to just take movies in. There would
Speaker 1: be a billboard, there will be a fucking bus bench ad,
Speaker 1: there will be a couple of music videos, and you
Speaker 1: knew a movie was coming up. But I think in
Speaker 1: the age of like the Internet everything, it's like those
Speaker 1: same I don't think those work in the same way,
Speaker 1: and they kind of have to do like run ssy
Speaker 1: ops on the fucking audience to get them interested on
Speaker 1: some level. Right, well, related but not related. I was
Speaker 1: thinking about the whole I don't know if you've all
Speaker 1: talked about it without the gin Shaw thing, right, So,
Speaker 1: her bringing a fake back to her her sentencing. Everyone
Speaker 1: has been talking about that, and I'm like, as much
Speaker 1: as people are like, oh, this thing, I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: what these reality folks have been crafted to do. They've
Speaker 1: they've learned how to make every moment of their anything happened,
Speaker 1: it's a moment. And so like, I'm not surprised that
Speaker 1: someone would come out and say Kim Kardashian's flower blom
Speaker 1: thing was a moment for me. I'm sorry, but I'm
Speaker 1: laughing because as I'm looking through the photos, there's these
Speaker 1: people vacuuming up the flower, and it's taking me down
Speaker 1: every time I see someone with an actual vacuum vacuuming
Speaker 1: up the flower. But all that to say, I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised clean it up. Yeah, I'm not surprised at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I'm curious to hear from you guys any any
Speaker 1: like gang, what are stories like this that you always
Speaker 1: suspected we're an inside job? There? There have been that
Speaker 1: Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian's sex tape leaks were both
Speaker 1: you know, things that they did that you know what,
Speaker 1: whether it was an inside job or not, both like
Speaker 1: exploded their careers and the stratesphere you know, Paris Hilton
Speaker 1: say that wasn't she wasn't a part of that. She
Speaker 1: has come out and said that because because it was
Speaker 1: that wasn't. Yeah, because I feel like the guy she
Speaker 1: was was like a total yeah predator. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know what other things. I mean. I'm not saying this
Speaker 1: is an inside job. But when the Caitlin Jenner Vanity
Speaker 1: fair cover came out, when she came out, that was
Speaker 1: the day like the renewal of the Patriot Act was
Speaker 1: going on, and there was a lot of outrage because
Speaker 1: Edward Snowden was like seeing like, you know what the
Speaker 1: n s A Is kind of up to. There was
Speaker 1: a huge conversation around surveillance. But the debate like on
Speaker 1: like the day before, there's all this debate going on,
Speaker 1: and then that like they were like trying to get
Speaker 1: the votes right and they finally got it through just
Speaker 1: served as a great It was more of an example
Speaker 1: of a great like pop culture distraction. Was something really
Speaker 1: fucking like is happening? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's what I
Speaker 1: always thought, Like when you look at the dates of it,
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, that's I think just more serendipitous for
Speaker 1: the military industrial complex and surveillance state. Then Caitlyn Jenner
Speaker 1: ends up being a Republican politician. Yeah, and then and
Speaker 1: then at the end it's like it wasn't off. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like Julia Fox was never interested
Speaker 1: in Kanye, but that's not necessarily something I think was
Speaker 1: a setup that just seems like self serving, like social
Speaker 1: climbing of the lowest common denominator variety. But I don't
Speaker 1: know what other you know, like was the Tom cruise
Speaker 1: jumping up and down on the couch that felt contrived
Speaker 1: or was that real? You know, like what what where
Speaker 1: do we land on that? I think that was a
Speaker 1: Dean scream level, like the media ran with something because
Speaker 1: they were ready to pile on you doing the opposite,
Speaker 1: and because he when you picture that moment in your mind,
Speaker 1: what do you see? Like do you see I'm coming
Speaker 1: up and down on the couch like it's the trampoline? Yeah?
Speaker 1: In my mind, I think, so what actually had he
Speaker 1: jumped on the couch, stood there for a second, and
Speaker 1: then jumped off Like when you go back and watch it,
Speaker 1: it's somewhat underwhelming. He just hopped on, Yeah, he hopped
Speaker 1: on and hopped on. He like, I'm not saying the
Speaker 1: version that came through into the like collective consciousness was
Speaker 1: earned by just like his being intense to a degree
Speaker 1: that it's like, well, that person is really not human
Speaker 1: and their career is built on them portraying humans up
Speaker 1: to that point. And since then, Tom Cruise has been like,
Speaker 1: all right, what if my thing is just I'm the
Speaker 1: most intense person and I will die for you to
Speaker 1: watch my movie. But I think I don't think the
Speaker 1: media had to work too hard on that one as
Speaker 1: opposed to the Dean Scream. But I I do think
Speaker 1: that that one was it was just people were ready
Speaker 1: to be like this person is We're out on Tom Cruise. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's my theory anyway. But yeah, you say I love
Speaker 1: my wife, or he say I love that woman. I
Speaker 1: love that woman. I believe that's what I remember. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was that's a lot, yea very believable. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of that's a lot of drugs, funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, yeah, I think he's just
Speaker 1: got the natural he's got that CEO energy, you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: because he's like, yeah, if if he weren't an actor,
Speaker 1: he'd be like some billionaire who like you know, like
Speaker 1: let like millions of people die under his watch, but
Speaker 1: his day clapping, you know, like just that right alright, Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of other movie stars, Mel Gibson is reportedly making
Speaker 1: Passion of the Christ to cruise control as writer jmu
Speaker 1: it's not control but control. Yeah. But he's apparently just
Speaker 1: months away from making a sequel to his torture porn
Speaker 1: blockbuster The Passion of the Christ. He had talked about
Speaker 1: the what's it about? So this is this is interesting.
Speaker 1: So he's talked before about the project and said that
Speaker 1: it's going to be wild and a vast theological experience.
Speaker 1: That is an acid trip, which sounded cool to me,
Speaker 1: much cooler than the first Passle of the Christ. I
Speaker 1: don't know if y'all saw that, but that is the
Speaker 1: least movie Like Anti Semitism was a little wacky in
Speaker 1: that one. Oh my god. And there's just like no
Speaker 1: there there's no plot. It's just a person getting beat
Speaker 1: until the thing and look in Jim Caviel is doing
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, it really He also I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: got struck by lightning while he was on the cross
Speaker 1: during the filming of that movie. Is like, how many
Speaker 1: signs do you need, like this is this is the
Speaker 1: sort of thing you'll believe in, Like, how many sides
Speaker 1: signs that a god is up there not wanting this
Speaker 1: to happen? Do you need if that's what you believe
Speaker 1: him today? Anything? Anyways, the idea is that it will
Speaker 1: happen in the time between Jesus dying and Jesus rising
Speaker 1: in like some like heaven, hell nether world thing. So
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a totally different genre. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a light a man. I love to see someone
Speaker 1: really religious their religion and treating with the proper sanctity
Speaker 1: in respect it deserves being like a man. What about
Speaker 1: between Friday and Sunday? Though? What the funk was? What
Speaker 1: was going on in that's right? He was in the cave. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think it starts off like Friday? Like it
Speaker 1: starts like the first thing, but but but but but
Speaker 1: this Friday? Yeah, but then they yeah, then they have
Speaker 1: him what like in a I don't know, it's I
Speaker 1: can't believe, like someone's finding whatever. Yeah, there's always somebody
Speaker 1: wants to make Jesus stuff. Yeah, so there's a there's
Speaker 1: a history of people trying to make sequels of this
Speaker 1: because mel Gibson can't like copyright the story of Jesus
Speaker 1: or anti Semitism, so he's you know, lots of people
Speaker 1: have been like, hey, this, this is a recipe that works.
Speaker 1: So there was a Christian film producer who tried to
Speaker 1: crab fund forty million dollars to make a sequel. It
Speaker 1: didn't really go anywhere. Most funded up attempt to make
Speaker 1: a follow up to the Passion of the Christ came
Speaker 1: from the original film screenwriter Benedict Fitzgerald. So Benny fits
Speaker 1: after the movie came out, was not getting any job offers,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, it is one of the most
Speaker 1: successful movies of all time. But on the other hand,
Speaker 1: the film was let's say controversial and also literal garbage
Speaker 1: is one of the worst movies. But also I was
Speaker 1: just like curious about, like what was his backstory? Was
Speaker 1: he working? Like did he write Lethal Weapon four? And
Speaker 1: then mel Gibson wiped him into this or what? Not
Speaker 1: a ton of credits, but is from like have you
Speaker 1: ever seen quiz show? Movie quiz Show where it's refines. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then and this guy who is like from a famous
Speaker 1: intellectual family becomes a famous quiz show contestant and gets
Speaker 1: all the answers, but he's cheating, and like, that's what
Speaker 1: it seems like. This person is the So his dad
Speaker 1: is a famous poet critic named Robert Fitzgerald, and when
Speaker 1: he was a kid, Flannery O'Connor babysat him. But so
Speaker 1: he's like literary loyalty. And this was kind of he
Speaker 1: like worked on a couple of TV shows and then
Speaker 1: this was his biggest thing. And then everyone's like, oh man,
Speaker 1: we really didn't like that. So he hasn't been able
Speaker 1: to get work, but he was able to get a
Speaker 1: big pay day by saying, actually, okay, what about prequel?
Speaker 1: And he and he interested in a prequel and everyone's like,
Speaker 1: hell no. But he was able to raise money to
Speaker 1: make the movie by turning to a Mexican drug cartel. Okay,
Speaker 1: signed an agreement with them. Was very signed agreements exactly,
Speaker 1: was shockingly incurious about like what what are these people?
Speaker 1: Where's all this money coming from? From these people that
Speaker 1: nobody in Hollywood's ever heard of? And the cartel sued
Speaker 1: him over some money he couldn't pay back, and the
Speaker 1: cartels sued him. Yes, I like that. The cartels like
Speaker 1: a man get a business agreement. Yeah, we don't know when,
Speaker 1: we don't know how he moves. So the cartel signed
Speaker 1: over the rights to the movie to two men, one
Speaker 1: of whom wanted the other to give up his half
Speaker 1: of the script, and when he refused, the other guy
Speaker 1: kidnapped his brother, with the ransom being a fact note,
Speaker 1: ringing to give up his half of the Passion prequel.
Speaker 1: Oh my, this is the movie. This is the movie.
Speaker 1: Why someone's not making this a movie? Just be writing
Speaker 1: what is happening? From stupid ahead. This guy runs a
Speaker 1: ballot the cartel. There's fucking kidnapping over the rights to
Speaker 1: the Passion of the Christ. This is the movie. Why
Speaker 1: is no one making this? This option? Has someone optioned this?
Speaker 1: Because we should? It is actually a fantastic movie that
Speaker 1: you can make like and Argo, Yeah exactly. The script
Speaker 1: was then sold for one million dollars to a producer
Speaker 1: who was immediately questioned by the d A, and then
Speaker 1: when the arrest was made, the government, like the U.
Speaker 1: S government, claimed the rights to ten percent of the
Speaker 1: future profits of Mary, Mother of Christ, the name of
Speaker 1: the movie, because it was gonna be all about Mary,
Speaker 1: which they then ended up losing in court, like they
Speaker 1: got sued to give up their rights to it, and
Speaker 1: then after all that, the movie was never made because
Speaker 1: the scripted become tainted. But this is the legacy of
Speaker 1: a passionate christ sequel, which is like, on one level,
Speaker 1: it's like the Titanic sequel, like it's a thing you
Speaker 1: would joke about. It feels impossible, but yeah I should.
Speaker 1: It's just not I gotta see this movie now about
Speaker 1: this fucking guy going to the cartel to make a
Speaker 1: film that is so awful and the downward spiral that ensues.
Speaker 1: That's that's why I'm mad. Yeah, you know, but I
Speaker 1: just like that that the pivot was all right, then
Speaker 1: let's do it like right after they take him off
Speaker 1: the cross until it's Sunday. We'll do that. Okay, we
Speaker 1: burned the prequel, we don't. Nobody has the rights to
Speaker 1: the acid trip in the fucking cave in the tomb
Speaker 1: as it were. That's right, so we'll see. Well, I'll
Speaker 1: be eagerly awaiting that talking to Satan the Serpent. Do
Speaker 1: you think what is that gonna look like? Do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? How do you even do that? That?
Speaker 1: Won't I feel like even Christian people who fused with
Speaker 1: the first one might even be offended by whatever the
Speaker 1: director's depiction is of all this other stuff. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be wildly offensive and boring at the same time. Like
Speaker 1: the first one, Like, is there going to be a
Speaker 1: scene where he's like, I mean like going to like
Speaker 1: the camera who and then he lands in like a
Speaker 1: dark void where am I Welcome to Hell? Jesus your
Speaker 1: mind unless you can beat me in this fiddling content.
Speaker 1: James Brown gets a whole sequence because he's down there
Speaker 1: entertaining welcome to Hell and the doors open and it's
Speaker 1: just Jesus is like, what is going on? I mean,
Speaker 1: that would be in a way if you said, there's
Speaker 1: a fucking sequence where Jesus goes in a fucking wormhole
Speaker 1: to a black void which is Hell, and then he
Speaker 1: has a dance battle with James Brown. Yeah, the lights
Speaker 1: pop on. Yeah, I'm like, okay, look, I don't funk
Speaker 1: with mel Gibson, but this is so absurd. I might
Speaker 1: have to torrent the indegual version of the film because
Speaker 1: I might have to see that. Yeah, I would watch
Speaker 1: it just to laugh. Yeah yeah. Oh man, Well, the wait,
Speaker 1: would Jim Cavezel come back for this, I have to imagine.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna object Jim Caviezel. He's gone
Speaker 1: full right wing mega. Yeah, what's that gonna do? I know,
Speaker 1: I mean talk about controversy on top of controversy. Hey,
Speaker 1: past the christ too, and it will probably do extremely
Speaker 1: well from conflict marketing. Yeah, so called electric tumloo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is funny to me that It is funny to
Speaker 1: me that they blamed for for the flower bombing, like
Speaker 1: they're made up villain was animal rights person, Like they're
Speaker 1: just always they they know, Yeah, they have the four
Speaker 1: D chess mind to know that, like the media wants
Speaker 1: to blame, like they won't look too deep into that.
Speaker 1: They would love to blame an animal rights person. So yeah,
Speaker 1: there it is. But yeah, I mean the conflict, the
Speaker 1: first passion of the crisis probably the best example of
Speaker 1: conflict marketing, Like that movie is a monster monster hit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't like they were churches were being like
Speaker 1: it is your duty. You will go to hell if
Speaker 1: you don't go out and see this movie. Because isn't
Speaker 1: an aramaic to and ship? Yeah yeah, yeah, I remember
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different languages. Yeah right, Well I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see the the shroud of turin, Like,
Speaker 1: is he going to use the shroud? Is? Like? Does
Speaker 1: he tie that up in like a nice head wrap
Speaker 1: or something like? Yeah? Oh wow, Okay, we're starting our
Speaker 1: own Yeah, the three of us about to write the script. John,
Speaker 1: We're about to You have to write this. This has
Speaker 1: to get written. Well, John, such a pleasure having you
Speaker 1: on the daily. I just all I do is sit
Speaker 1: here and laugh because y'all literally a lot of these stories.
Speaker 1: All you can do is laugh because it's so terrible.
Speaker 1: If you don't to keep from crying, what else can
Speaker 1: you do? So lean into a little bit outrage? Yeah,
Speaker 1: where can people find you? Follow you, hear you all
Speaker 1: that good stuff? Um? Well, right now you can find
Speaker 1: me a swimming outside of my apartment because everything is flooded.
Speaker 1: But with that being said, you can find me online
Speaker 1: by using the handle at doctor John Paul Um. You
Speaker 1: can also visit me on my website at ww dot
Speaker 1: door John Paul dot com. Amazing And is there a
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media that
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Yes, so I bookmarked actually this thing
Speaker 1: because it's so me. Uh, this person mask potatoes. They
Speaker 1: tweeted abruptly running from the elevator to my apartment because
Speaker 1: my brain told me there could be a killer in
Speaker 1: the stairwell. I genuinely, like my brain tells me all
Speaker 1: the time, like someone's in that corner. Run And so
Speaker 1: sometimes I don't like getting out of my car, and
Speaker 1: like I psyched my own self out and then I
Speaker 1: like dart up the street because I'm like nervous that
Speaker 1: like Jason or somebody is after me. I don't know
Speaker 1: why I'm that way, but yeah, that that resonated with
Speaker 1: me because that's so me. I've always suspected it is
Speaker 1: because when our brains were designed, we were actually running
Speaker 1: from I think, like things that we're trying to kill
Speaker 1: us constantly, and so our brain just is like we
Speaker 1: gotta burn off some access running from something that was
Speaker 1: trying to kill us energy. So let's let's get up
Speaker 1: and go. Let's make something. Yeah, let's make a movie. Miles.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? What is the tweet you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles
Speaker 1: of Gray. Check Jack and I out on Miles and
Speaker 1: Jack Got Mat boost these our basketball podcasts, and also
Speaker 1: check me out on four twenty Day Fiance where I
Speaker 1: talk ninety fiance. But that's that's almost over. So I think,
Speaker 1: all right, let's see Marvel. I mean, I can't say Angel,
Speaker 1: she's like a nasty man. There's like so many, so
Speaker 1: many toxic, abusive relationships on that show that people are like, wow,
Speaker 1: they're messy, and I think half people are like, no,
Speaker 1: this is actually terrible to put on teath like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's wild. It's I feel like Fiance is gonna
Speaker 1: be the first show where somebody kills somebody else on
Speaker 1: the thing and they put it in the show like
Speaker 1: as part of the running Man, you know, the type
Speaker 1: of thing where it's like, that's where we're at our
Speaker 1: new entertainment U star crossed lovers anyway. Uh, here's one
Speaker 1: from a tweet from Rohita Rohita Kadambi at Rohita Canambi
Speaker 1: tweeted about a hundred five years ago, when royals had
Speaker 1: an extended family feud, people died by the millions in trenches.
Speaker 1: Now we're just watching it like an episode of the Kardashians,
Speaker 1: and I see that as progress. Uh yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: like that absolutely. We don't need to know to send
Speaker 1: people off for your empirical wars. Also at Menace to
Speaker 1: Snacks tweeted this like screen cap of a Gina Krano
Speaker 1: tweet you know the UFC like mm A fighter who
Speaker 1: went like hard right and then like god completely kicked
Speaker 1: off the mandalorian and then be like oh anyway, She
Speaker 1: tweeted this, I didn't fumble the bag. I just didn't
Speaker 1: go along with the sellout narrative. The online mob couldn't
Speaker 1: handle that, so they petitioned to have me fired. In
Speaker 1: one I'm not sorry for that. I stood for what
Speaker 1: I believe the right thing to do was. And the
Speaker 1: more time goes by, the better I feel. And then
Speaker 1: they quote to it and said, quote I wanted to
Speaker 1: make shitty Westerns for Ben Shapiro instead of headlining a
Speaker 1: spinoff of the most highly valued I P and entertainment
Speaker 1: history Checkmate lives. Hashtag I'm not owned man, fast and furious. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the then the then the COVID vaccine takes
Speaker 1: came out, and you know, people gotta unmask in public
Speaker 1: tweet I've been enjoying from January one, actually from will
Speaker 1: send it at send Underscores. But my friend padding me
Speaker 1: down sorry to do this. It's just the last time.
Speaker 1: Everybody at the party was pretty weird. It at me
Speaker 1: with my kindle duct taped to my stomach. All good
Speaker 1: for other man, our fight with the kindle lot of
Speaker 1: stomach just read at the party like he's smuggling it.
Speaker 1: In my mind, I thought of this thing of like
Speaker 1: you would take phone books to your stomach so you
Speaker 1: can take a blow if somebody tried to sucker punch you.
Speaker 1: I don't know why that's where my mind. I'm more
Speaker 1: of a read at the party, guys, so maybe that's
Speaker 1: what it was. Maybe don't punch me in my week
Speaker 1: core please? All right? You can find me on Twitter
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Speaker 1: that we talked about in today's episode, as well as
Speaker 1: the song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what
Speaker 1: do you think people might enjoy? Oh? Man? So I've
Speaker 1: been listening to this group from this Irish folk group
Speaker 1: called the Breath And I had never heard this group
Speaker 1: until this weekend. And this song I thought was like
Speaker 1: a West African kind of like rock tune going on. First,
Speaker 1: like the rhythm was very like West African. And then
Speaker 1: the vocalist, her name is Rena connolly Man, fantastic like
Speaker 1: voice for like this like kind of Irish folk thing.
Speaker 1: But the but the band is like funky in this
Speaker 1: weird way, and I think she's played for like like
Speaker 1: like selt afrobeat type like crossover bands and all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff. But she's like a very interesting vocalist. This
Speaker 1: trick was pretty dope. It's called what You Owe and
Speaker 1: it's by the Breath, So I think of it like
Speaker 1: funky Cranberries kind of in a way. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know that that's an app you know, comparison, but that's
Speaker 1: how I was like, Oh wait, I'm back on my
Speaker 1: Irish ship now, and don't try and figure out how
Speaker 1: to spell the lead singers and name just to look
Speaker 1: up the band and then man shout out to those names.
Speaker 1: Man every time I look at him, like Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tackle this one. Can we pack into this fucker?
Speaker 1: It seems like either guiding principal man. I remember the
Speaker 1: first time I met a Chavan. I was shook to
Speaker 1: say their name because I didn't. I had no idea
Speaker 1: how to say it. And then they said Chavan. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, it almost called you see open. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my bad for a strage in there, just yeah, alright,
Speaker 1: well we'll link off to that in the footnotes. The
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