Speaker 1: We're officially on the back path of the NBA schedule,
Speaker 1: and we're actually less than three weeks away boom boom, boom,
Speaker 1: boom boom from the NBA's trade deadline, which is February
Speaker 1: ninth end. Teams are gearing up for both the playoff
Speaker 1: push and potential lottery positioning, and we'll discuss that am
Speaker 1: more with the NBA writer and all around entertainer Kelly Dwyer.
Speaker 1: On that day's episode. I'm Miles Grady and I'm Jack O'Brien,
Speaker 1: and this is Miles Jacott Man. Jeez, we did it?
Speaker 1: Were you doing? Like the SNL announcer guy vibe? Miles
Speaker 1: and Jack got bad boost and now your special guest Kelly.
Speaker 1: They never fixed it, so that guy wasn't saying the
Speaker 1: same name right in a row, you know, maybe intro
Speaker 1: who the guest is right before, but I don't know,
Speaker 1: it had a bit of a rhythm to it as
Speaker 1: it just did then, you know either way, that guy
Speaker 1: was on sax getting his check, the iconic saxophone player
Speaker 1: from that band. Anyway, Well, let's roll come our special
Speaker 1: guest water Kelly. What's going on. I'm just looking forward
Speaker 1: to some sweet sax lines from Lenny Pickett right now
Speaker 1: and the rest of the SNL band. I need some
Speaker 1: some sort of like faux gospel grooves to to leave
Speaker 1: us in, you know, telling us it's been a great
Speaker 1: week with the writers and the cast, and don't forget
Speaker 1: to stay tuned for a showtime at the Apollo. Thank
Speaker 1: you for the Don Pardo intro. I'm I'm ready to
Speaker 1: to rock it out. I'm sorry, did you get names? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What what are your studio? Eh? Or what what studio
Speaker 1: they in? I bet you know this too. Uh, that
Speaker 1: would be fourteen B fellas the I mean the way
Speaker 1: I get in, you know, straightway of fourteen D. But
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess you got to go the way
Speaker 1: Rob Barrow goes. Yeah, when you're pulling up a thirty Yeah,
Speaker 1: great pull. It was. I was at a wedding where
Speaker 1: Lenny Pickett played in the band, and I was like
Speaker 1: the biggest fan because a friend of mine worked on SNL,
Speaker 1: and I was like, how did you get him on here? Anyway,
Speaker 1: he's iconic. I work on SNL, paid him to play
Speaker 1: a gig. Technically, I'm like, oh okay, I thought it
Speaker 1: was off. The strengthen relationship but anyway, Kelly Man, welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. I gotta ask you quickly who who
Speaker 1: are your fan of? What's your what's your basketball fan history?
Speaker 1: Where you grew up? Who you come up on? Where yet? Now?
Speaker 1: Spurban Chicago in Lafayette, Indiana right now, which is halfway between,
Speaker 1: not halfway, it's closer to Indianapolis. But I'm a Bulls
Speaker 1: guy in Chicago, So I was in my late twenties
Speaker 1: and uh, for better words, the most embarrassing franchise the
Speaker 1: last twenty five years is mine to call my own.
Speaker 1: I I bleed red and black and have games and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's I think it has something to do
Speaker 1: with all the zinc I've been taken in. But should
Speaker 1: version to the luxury text. But yeah, I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: a Bulls guy. Yeah, okay, okay, that's a little it's okay,
Speaker 1: that's the right that's the right response. We've had to
Speaker 1: back Bulls fans. It's just your like the third Bulls
Speaker 1: fan that we've had in in recent weeks. And so no,
Speaker 1: it's fine, it's great. The uniforms are nice, right, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, iconic some of the best. Yeah you are
Speaker 1: in Indiana, the scene of the crime that we're going
Speaker 1: to get to on a little bit of the job dunk.
Speaker 1: I mean these happened. These jaw breakers, as I've coined them,
Speaker 1: and nobody else ever has are happening on a pretty
Speaker 1: frequent basis. But oh oh yeah, M O R A
Speaker 1: N T. I'm trying to do like that song with
Speaker 1: jar Will and j LO when she's spelling are you Ellie?
Speaker 1: And I thought it was a question if he was Ellie,
Speaker 1: I'd rather than spelling are you Ellie? Are you Ellie?
Speaker 1: I thought that was the thing, was like, are you Ellie?
Speaker 1: I'm like, who's Ellie? Is this a blind day? End
Speaker 1: of the scene? Jaw rule? But okay, um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: A question like, with your fandom being you know, like
Speaker 1: talking about the game so much, are you able to
Speaker 1: kind of have a healthy distance, are you still like
Speaker 1: kind of caught up in your child fan mode? Or
Speaker 1: you live and die by all the results. So I
Speaker 1: can sit I can sit tight on press row and
Speaker 1: not make it, not move a muscle and not raise
Speaker 1: an eyebrow, even if Gilbert and running and this is
Speaker 1: hitting a game winner in Kerfeinerck's face, not you know,
Speaker 1: for me to to to, you know, lose Chicago's home
Speaker 1: court advantage in the first round the playoffs. You know,
Speaker 1: I can. I can handle my own stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: I should have been at that game. I had planned
Speaker 1: on making a press cidential going in for that game.
Speaker 1: I was all set up to go to that game.
Speaker 1: Then a couple of days before I was just like,
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of stuff to do around the house.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen the wife in a while. I got
Speaker 1: to take the tree down and I didn't go to
Speaker 1: the game. I'm just very upset I did not have
Speaker 1: that site to behold in person. Of course, while we're
Speaker 1: on the subject, I may not have survived. So better
Speaker 1: that I did not go to that game, because you know,
Speaker 1: I'm getting up there in age and I don't know
Speaker 1: how many sicks listening has left, and seeing on TV
Speaker 1: was was close enough. So that was plenty. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was wonderful. You got to take the whole thing, and
Speaker 1: you got to take the bench reaction in and we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about it all. But should we talk
Speaker 1: about should we talk about who's running the table of late? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you've got three teams that are kind of separating
Speaker 1: themselves a little bit. At West, you got the Nuggets
Speaker 1: and Grizzlies. The grizz have won ten straight and the
Speaker 1: Nuggets have won sixth straight. And then the Celtics won
Speaker 1: seventh straight, largest point differential in the league at six
Speaker 1: point five, best road record in the league. That's an
Speaker 1: interesting thing that like things were trending in the direction
Speaker 1: that like road versus home court advantage wasn't as big
Speaker 1: a deal, and then this season it's just really really
Speaker 1: reverted back. Yeah, it's weird. You think Darius Garland's road
Speaker 1: home splits. It's very it's all very strange, like now
Speaker 1: it matters all of a sudden. Yeah, this game against
Speaker 1: the Hornets. I'm living in fear of Jayson Tatum. I
Speaker 1: always live in Tatum has ruined my life. My team,
Speaker 1: the seventies Sixers traded the ability to draft Jason Tatum
Speaker 1: for Mark l. Folts and gave like additional picks. I
Speaker 1: believe I've never felt like the seventy sixers got the
Speaker 1: better half of that deal. And so it's always it's
Speaker 1: always stung a little bit every time he has proven
Speaker 1: himself to be a generational talent. Yeah, I mean fifty
Speaker 1: one points nine rebounds, five assists. One thing to note,
Speaker 1: I don't know what they have in the water in Charlotte,
Speaker 1: but people show up. I mean embid fifty three twelve
Speaker 1: and three on twenty thirty two shooting this year, Yokich
Speaker 1: had that forty game, twenty seven rebounds tripled uple over there. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then Jayson Tatum. Good things are happening, good things.
Speaker 1: It's almost like Kai Jones place for the Hornets or something.
Speaker 1: It's almost like, gee, I wonder what's happening now, But
Speaker 1: let's it's probably some sort of hotel set up, or
Speaker 1: maybe it's it's the bus, you know, like the eight
Speaker 1: c M fees are like way lower in Charlotte than
Speaker 1: other banks around there. Yet it can't be Kai Jones,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. Jayson Tatum, by the way, number of fifty
Speaker 1: point games scored in a Celtics uniform. There are five
Speaker 1: players who have one game. Larry Bird has four games,
Speaker 1: and Jason Tatum, who I believe is nineteen years old,
Speaker 1: he's always so much younger than I expect him to be,
Speaker 1: has five games already where he put up fifty or more.
Speaker 1: It's unnerving. Yeah, there's no sign of them slowing down.
Speaker 1: So whatever, they had that one little skid that like
Speaker 1: teased some of us, but uh yeah, everything might fall
Speaker 1: apart with them and the markets smart may not be happening.
Speaker 1: That just that just gave some sort of hope. But
Speaker 1: but no, and it's just you know, it's you can't
Speaker 1: like them because they're the ceutic. Yeah yeah, but then
Speaker 1: it's like yeah then, but it's hard like as I watched,
Speaker 1: oh my god, it they're so good. Your part to
Speaker 1: be has like a morbid fascination. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I won't be wearing a jersey anytime soon. Yeah. We'll
Speaker 1: link off to some of the highlights from that Tatum
Speaker 1: game of fifty one, nine and five against the Hornets.
Speaker 1: But if you need more evidence that Jayson Tatum is incredible,
Speaker 1: uh yeah, well we'll link off to it. But man,
Speaker 1: he looked like he could not miss, which was I
Speaker 1: think that the scary part, which just felt like I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I'm going to wail everything to happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they look like small shots. They look like he's so
Speaker 1: strong now that when he gets up to that that
Speaker 1: high point on his release, it doesn't look like a
Speaker 1: twenty four ft shot. It looks like he's just going
Speaker 1: in for a free throw line pull up and and
Speaker 1: it ain't fair for someone who's I think sixty eighteen
Speaker 1: years old. Yeah, and this is a podcast that we
Speaker 1: do in partnership with the NBA, and I think that
Speaker 1: that's a message that we're trying to send. It's not
Speaker 1: fair and we need to do something about this. Jayson
Speaker 1: Tatum guy, it's not it's not fair to the rest
Speaker 1: of the league, to the fans, Nerf. Some of his
Speaker 1: stats man like putting up date do a roster date, Yeah, Nerf,
Speaker 1: some of those four on five should be should be
Speaker 1: thought of. I think it's you know, especially teams around
Speaker 1: the second half of the back to back. It's just
Speaker 1: at some point you have to keep feelings in order.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, Jason Tatums is just clearly unfair.
Speaker 1: You're allowed to throw things at the ball when he
Speaker 1: shoots it. I think would be maybe you know, get
Speaker 1: the bench involved, you know what about them as sharp shooters.
Speaker 1: You know. Again, anything that brings Kai Jones into this
Speaker 1: I wanted to happen. He has, he has hornet hair,
Speaker 1: and uh, yes, it needs we need more of him
Speaker 1: on the court, even if it's only in a four
Speaker 1: on five setting, right, So it feels like we're almost
Speaker 1: saying that the Celtics are foregone conclusion nearly Celtics in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Brooklyn still still intrigued. Okay, when they had it going
Speaker 1: in the playoffs before everybody got hurt, Like if they
Speaker 1: can keep it going for the whole playoffs, and I
Speaker 1: think they're pretty pretty tough to deal with. They still
Speaker 1: continue to look good even with Katie banged up. But
Speaker 1: the Celtics look like I would say the Celtics are
Speaker 1: a clearer pick to come out of their conference than
Speaker 1: anybody out west. The grizz and the Nuggets are both
Speaker 1: pretty hard to separate from one another. The Grizzlies have
Speaker 1: the more recent kind of run and playoff experience. The
Speaker 1: Nuggets had that one bubble run though, where they looked incredible,
Speaker 1: got to the Western Conference finals, so I could I
Speaker 1: could see absolutely lost his mind, right, Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: that was some good shot making. Uh, We're we're kind
Speaker 1: of unique here, Kelly on this podcast because we talked
Speaker 1: about the importance of shot making and how good shot
Speaker 1: making is in the NBA these days. You could put
Speaker 1: a friendly wager on Brooklyn beating these Celtics and five
Speaker 1: you would five close games where Kevin Durant hit six
Speaker 1: of his two point shots. I mean, yeah, I took
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Is. It's just as hot as anything I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: I'll go follow the Magic Johnson tweets about it, like you,
Speaker 1: there's no reason why we should be at all discounting
Speaker 1: even without Nick Lackson's ascension, this team that just pulls
Speaker 1: up for jumpers and does not miss them. Yeah, Magic
Speaker 1: Johnson some of my favorite hot takes. You know, a
Speaker 1: hot take factory, one of one of the great tweeters, Katie,
Speaker 1: who you like Between the Grizzlies and the Nuggets. Grizzlies
Speaker 1: are so many different teams at once. Player goes down
Speaker 1: and they're the best defensive team in the NBA and
Speaker 1: a player that loves into the lineup and the best
Speaker 1: three points you need team in the NBA, and a
Speaker 1: player and in the middle of it as a JO
Speaker 1: and sometimes he's not in the middle of it. So
Speaker 1: I feel like they haven't shown me their greatest yet.
Speaker 1: So I should say the Grizzlies. But Denver has a
Speaker 1: full of smart and intelligent role players expertly put together
Speaker 1: and then as the best player in basketball. Sorry that
Speaker 1: the guy from Denver is the best player in basketball. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Grizzlies because I don't know
Speaker 1: what they're gonna even be like in May, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. They're hard to prepare for, right, and that
Speaker 1: they did seem to surprise some people in the playoff
Speaker 1: flash year because of that, right, Like Joe went down
Speaker 1: and they still got a gamer too. So let's talk
Speaker 1: about that guy from Denver. Um. We are, of course
Speaker 1: talking about uh Man, formerly known as the Joker, but
Speaker 1: will now be known as Big Honey. To me, I
Speaker 1: didn't even know that was a nickname, but super producer
Speaker 1: Jabari let me in on that and that that works
Speaker 1: much better. Yeah. It reminds me of like watching Greg
Speaker 1: Maddox pitch at his height when like he wasn't throwing heat,
Speaker 1: but it was just like everything was exactly on the
Speaker 1: you know, pinpoint corner, and they were like, how come
Speaker 1: these guys aren't just like rocking this dude and dead
Speaker 1: glasses out there? You know? But Big Honey man, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can just watch him pass the ball
Speaker 1: all day. Every every time we talk, we're like, did
Speaker 1: you see that pass? You see that, but like his
Speaker 1: passing is unbelievable. And I know, if I think what
Speaker 1: was I may it may have been the listener made
Speaker 1: Paul Garaventa, one of y'all were reaching out and saying,
Speaker 1: this is our vetus o bonus eracer. Well, yes, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously there's no shade rvy to Sabonus. But what we're
Speaker 1: seeing with Yokich is like it's he's building on that,
Speaker 1: and it's it's beautiful to watch the way he's doing
Speaker 1: it is like we are seeing the next level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the the league is so much more creative offensively
Speaker 1: than it used to be because it's more spread out,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I don't know, it's like it's like comparing
Speaker 1: a Renaissance master and then like one of those dudes
Speaker 1: who was painting when everything was like, you know, they
Speaker 1: would paint babies that look like middle aged men. You know.
Speaker 1: It's just like like like the Dark Ages painters, where
Speaker 1: everyone just looks like middle aged men of various sizes,
Speaker 1: Like the Sabonis wasn't wasn't working with the same you know,
Speaker 1: level of creativity and movement and spreading of the court
Speaker 1: is putting up the Guernica you know, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Alright, let's take a quick break. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about some of the best performances we've seen.
Speaker 1: We keep keep seeing stuff from this Lebron guy that
Speaker 1: I think it's Lebron Lebron Um. So we're gonna come
Speaker 1: back and talk about these great performances, including some from
Speaker 1: le Bron. James. Well, we'll be right back, and we're
Speaker 1: back and we'll catch up with the Wendy Race next week.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be what we're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, now that we're in the back half, you know,
Speaker 1: I think there's a little more substance to that conversation.
Speaker 1: But I would like to see the Pistons good. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say who raised the idea that the Suns
Speaker 1: should enter the race. Uh now they're one and nine
Speaker 1: in their last ten um. It was not me, but
Speaker 1: somebody raised that idea that the Suns might just want
Speaker 1: to blow it up and try and try and make
Speaker 1: some moves. I see a lot of their fans talking
Speaker 1: about that right now. Um, but less talk about performances
Speaker 1: of the week. Man, This guy Chrysler le Baron Hamaz,
Speaker 1: let me tell you he is doing s forty nine
Speaker 1: forty eight points nine? Is this eight rebounds no turnovers
Speaker 1: against Houston. Jabari did point out that we talked about
Speaker 1: I don't know if we talked about on the show,
Speaker 1: but there was this locker room conversation a while back
Speaker 1: where it looked like, you know, Darvin Hams trying to
Speaker 1: get the team fired up, and Lebron is like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need let's get greedy boys, blah blah blah, and
Speaker 1: the Russell Westbrook's like, hey, let's just try and have
Speaker 1: a good time. Man. When loser draw, let's have fun
Speaker 1: out there. And we didn't win at all following that
Speaker 1: conversation until this game against Houston. Obviously, also shout out
Speaker 1: to Opering Shingoon, Uh what what record did he said?
Speaker 1: Whatever it was, it was him and Shack, congratulations. It's
Speaker 1: fantastic And for anyone who hasn't like looked at some
Speaker 1: Shingoon highlights, so Shangoon has been I think when we
Speaker 1: were first talking about starting this podcast, super producer Jabari,
Speaker 1: who's like real NBA stat just knows everything that's going
Speaker 1: on in the league and like in the people pay
Speaker 1: attention to the league and all, you know, he was
Speaker 1: talking about Shangun and I finally started watching some clips
Speaker 1: of this person. So he's the youngest center to ever
Speaker 1: record a triple double in the first Houston Rocket to
Speaker 1: do so since a team. When you watch him, first
Speaker 1: of all, he doesn't like even really read that big.
Speaker 1: He looks like a swingman size. I would say he's
Speaker 1: six five. He's definitely bigger than that. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if you you just like scan him, you're like, he
Speaker 1: also is just doing these things in close quarters where
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to another non basketball sports reference, but
Speaker 1: like it's like watching one of those mm A fighters
Speaker 1: or like martial artists who's like real good at like
Speaker 1: the close quarters like hands and like he has his
Speaker 1: hand over yours and you don't realize the fights over
Speaker 1: like grappling or something like grappling, Like he's just like
Speaker 1: grappler man, Like all his footwork is wild, his hands
Speaker 1: like just where he has his the placement of the
Speaker 1: all again, it just feels like it shouldn't work as
Speaker 1: well as it does. He's got that chuck daily hair
Speaker 1: um and just you know he's not he's not reading.
Speaker 1: Is like this person is going to strike fear in
Speaker 1: your heart, but he's he's doing it out there, I
Speaker 1: think gets people out of the way. He's got that
Speaker 1: LaMarcus Aldridge, you know, rear end Paucosol rear end thing
Speaker 1: where he can just he just you don't know how
Speaker 1: he moves them out of the way, but it just
Speaker 1: gets the job done. He's tremendous to watch the ball
Speaker 1: flow throughout that offense. And I'm just happy he's on
Speaker 1: the court enough to pull that stuff off, because I
Speaker 1: was a worried with him coming out of international play,
Speaker 1: was just going to foul all the time. But he's
Speaker 1: he's just he grapples well and he stays. But I
Speaker 1: don't want to make the same mistake that every other
Speaker 1: NBA podcast is, And uh, pay all our attention to
Speaker 1: Shinguon and none of it to Lebron. James So Lebron
Speaker 1: over the last seven games thirty seven points, nine point
Speaker 1: seven boards, eight point six assists on the back end
Speaker 1: of a back to back like that is the back
Speaker 1: to back like this reminds me of when everyone's like,
Speaker 1: well they just came into the bubble in better shape
Speaker 1: and like more focused than everyone. It's like, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: part of the that's part of the thing. And also
Speaker 1: he's older than everyone and he's ready to do it
Speaker 1: more than anyone. Like the fact that he is at
Speaker 1: this age, like has the advantage on the back end
Speaker 1: of a back to back is wild. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: wild too, Like the Jabbar was sharing, like, you know,
Speaker 1: a tweet that was just saying, like, the youngest player
Speaker 1: in NBA history to a thousand points Lebron, two thousand points, Lebron,
Speaker 1: three thousand points, Lebron all the way to twenty thousand points.
Speaker 1: And you see these comments from people that are like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean unfair advantage. Kids, He's been
Speaker 1: doing it since he was eighteen, So like, let's adjust
Speaker 1: that a little bit, Like as if that is like
Speaker 1: would niggate what he's achieving. It's like, no, he's actually
Speaker 1: so good that he is able to begin putting the
Speaker 1: numbers down at that age. Not oh man, he bought
Speaker 1: his way into the league or something, Miles, that's his
Speaker 1: privilege being that good at basketball from a their young age.
Speaker 1: You know, he was kind of he had an advantage,
Speaker 1: and that's not fair. Again, the NBA needs to step
Speaker 1: in and do something because this guy's got an advantage.
Speaker 1: Over everyone, and he's at it for a long time
Speaker 1: and it's not fair. What's good as a child? I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm giving a speech that like a Brad
Speaker 1: Bird character would and like the incredible. But um, it
Speaker 1: was kind of heartwarming and endearing to see Jabari Smith Jr.
Speaker 1: Talking to him. I think it was like right off
Speaker 1: the tip, like first play of the game. Uh. I
Speaker 1: think we have the audio from it. Yeah, just coming
Speaker 1: up and being like you played with my daddy and
Speaker 1: you get if you listen closely here, I'm like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: are you trying to make you feel older? Hey, you
Speaker 1: played with just my dad first, your first NBA game
Speaker 1: ever Sacramento. You feel ha ha ha ha. And then
Speaker 1: Lebron doun't. Moments later, right before the half, Lebron is
Speaker 1: bringing it up the court and credit to this young
Speaker 1: man because he really he's like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna show him how dedicated I am on defense, only
Speaker 1: for Lebron James to be like, you know, I've been
Speaker 1: doing this since you were literally born, young man. Now
Speaker 1: get out my way. That's just like the second or
Speaker 1: third really three points down search Barie Smith looking for
Speaker 1: some help. Yeah, we better call your daddy. We do
Speaker 1: have to commend. As Lebron was making his way to
Speaker 1: the rim, you Sawmond Garuba maybe challenge, maybe challenge, and
Speaker 1: then at the last minute he decided, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't need to be on a poster or even
Speaker 1: near a highlight. But I do want to give it
Speaker 1: up to him because he thought for a second right here,
Speaker 1: he decided to gather jump and then he actually was
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, we gotta get out of the circle,
Speaker 1: you know, because otherwise that's a charge or that's not
Speaker 1: a charge. No, this is so Superducer Javari was saying
Speaker 1: that he made a good business decision. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think we need to find the right player in
Speaker 1: the NBA to name that. That should be their nickname,
Speaker 1: like street clothes, like business decision. Is the player who
Speaker 1: just always is like smart enough to get out of
Speaker 1: the way. Yeah, but like not appear on posters. He's
Speaker 1: like the Forrest Gump of Dunk posters. Like he's in
Speaker 1: all the posters. He's he's because he decided running the
Speaker 1: other way. But yeah, he's exactly. I mean, should we
Speaker 1: talk about somebody who made a poor business decision? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I probably should. Oh, John Marant. I mean, we might
Speaker 1: as get to this dunk. Oh boy, should we just
Speaker 1: watch it once to remember what we saw. Let's let's
Speaker 1: do it against McConnell. Okay, we need multiple angles. The
Speaker 1: most cocked back a ball has ever been. Look at
Speaker 1: the bench. The bench. It turned into a single celled organism. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The reaction is so wonderful. Yeah, because you got like
Speaker 1: somebody holding everybody back. Is it Baine who's holding everybody back?
Speaker 1: I think so. I love I love the holding everyone
Speaker 1: back like something tragic or horrible has happened, just like
Speaker 1: you're you're leaning on the other people for supports. Please
Speaker 1: don't hurt yourself. Don't hurt you, don't don't get don't
Speaker 1: jump into the fray. The firefighters do the job. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's like the Mystic River. Yeah exactly. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I like I like how. Even John Ray tweeted afterwards
Speaker 1: he said he quote tweeted the video said jump with
Speaker 1: me if you want to go viral um, which again,
Speaker 1: I think that's the point. Mr Jalen Smith, maybe that
Speaker 1: wasn't the best business decision you could have made, but look, hey,
Speaker 1: not all of us find ourselves j Smith. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: also known for becoming a single sell the organism on defense.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it gets into some trouble with coach. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say I was not a big business decision in
Speaker 1: my in my career, I played against Dan get Zurich,
Speaker 1: who you know, my from U c l A. Base
Speaker 1: went on to play U c l A. I was,
Speaker 1: you know, I was the two on my team. But
Speaker 1: I also was like, you know, the defender, and I
Speaker 1: was like, no, I got him. I got him, coach,
Speaker 1: And I got dunked on like I thought that was
Speaker 1: getting me points like I got so many times repeatedly embarrassingly.
Speaker 1: It was like Rocky you know how he's just like
Speaker 1: like he's eating punches like it's his job. Like he
Speaker 1: like the like the judges on the side there, Like, man,
Speaker 1: he took there's three in right. Yeah, this rounds going
Speaker 1: to a Balboa. Yeah, that's a McDonald's game. M v P.
Speaker 1: Duncan on you. That is that is you know, that's stuff.
Speaker 1: That's Jordan, Jonathan Bander, Lebron James and Dan Gya Zerry
Speaker 1: the greatest. I remember in eighth grade, DJ Strawberry almost
Speaker 1: dunked on us in our basketball game. Yeah, that was strawberries. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah like that, and it was weird. He like his
Speaker 1: school had like a carpet gym. Did you guys ever
Speaker 1: playing gyms like that, Like carpeted floor, like a carpeted Jim.
Speaker 1: I had new basketball shoes. I was ready to play
Speaker 1: on parque and I was like, I'm sorry, it's carpet
Speaker 1: in here. It's carpet in here. What is going on?
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what was going
Speaker 1: on in California like in the nineties, but there were
Speaker 1: some spots that had like it was like on the court,
Speaker 1: the court was carpet. It was like very dense carpet.
Speaker 1: That's that's not okay. Yeah, no, Like to the point
Speaker 1: when you came in, you're like, am I hearing like
Speaker 1: a basketball game being played through a styrofoam cup? Because
Speaker 1: when the ball hit the floors, like like it wasn't
Speaker 1: that snap of it here? And the way those games
Speaker 1: or points should have counted. Thank you, vacate those games,
Speaker 1: thank you. Then c double steps in. It is like
Speaker 1: nobody who played in any of these games can go
Speaker 1: to a n C double a school. It's it's illegal.
Speaker 1: Academic pursuit you are not allowed to. Just I'm trying
Speaker 1: to engauge, like come up with the thinking that arrives
Speaker 1: at that, because like the worst thing to fall on
Speaker 1: and have rub against your body when you're like running
Speaker 1: at full speed is carpet. And they were like, you
Speaker 1: know what would be good for people a contact sport
Speaker 1: where you fall down a lot, especially when Dan get
Speaker 1: Zurich is dunking all over you. Carpet. Let's let's go
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, I don't know ory friction. Yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1: It's it was just jim floor carpeting because like it
Speaker 1: was one of those things that had all their lines
Speaker 1: on it, like like a I don't know, it must
Speaker 1: have been discount or something. Anyway, do we want to
Speaker 1: talk about our teams going against one another? Jack that
Speaker 1: almost ruined us? I mean it was, it was a
Speaker 1: good game. I mean, it's just it was like the
Speaker 1: hard bit was that clear foul on Russell Westbrook by
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid, But then the league's like, according to our analysis,
Speaker 1: that's not a foul, and like Lakers fans like that
Speaker 1: from games. We're dying over here. But you know what,
Speaker 1: it all melted away because Like I said, Joel Embiid
Speaker 1: is a gunner, so you know he also supports the
Speaker 1: right football club. So eleven from Joel Lebron continue to
Speaker 1: look incredible reach thirty K not a great close out
Speaker 1: for it wasn't great. It wasn't great, but look, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. So this is why I like,
Speaker 1: I'm doing that Homer Simpson bush gift or I'm wearing
Speaker 1: my Lakers uniform as I go back. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: should we take one more break and come back and
Speaker 1: do the rapid fire. Let's talk about some questions after this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and we're back and guess what, y'all as
Speaker 1: I smashed my microphone about the studio, it's time to
Speaker 1: close this episode out with the rapid fire round up.
Speaker 1: I was gonna guess that I should have said it.
Speaker 1: I just well, right now, but I told you you
Speaker 1: don't get points because you knew it was going to happen.
Speaker 1: We went out anyway. Let's let's get to the point though.
Speaker 1: This is the most fast paced rapid questioning segment are
Speaker 1: in sports podcasting history. Kelly, We're gonna ask you questions.
Speaker 1: You answer, don't think, don't over analyze, don't don't aggrandize,
Speaker 1: don't know you're analyze. Don't analyze at all, just yeah,
Speaker 1: just like analyze this. The second we ask a question,
Speaker 1: favorite movie, you answer right back, baby, Actually mine is
Speaker 1: analyzed that I got the sequel, wasn't the sequel? Analyze that? Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: all right, whatever, we can't get sidetrack, Jack, we gotta
Speaker 1: keep umping. We gotta stay focused here. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: ask you a question. We're gonna start the clock and
Speaker 1: then you just answer, Kelly, are you ready the readiest? Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go because this is fast, so prepare yourself.
Speaker 1: Start the clock. So mean. So I'm sorry, Brian. I
Speaker 1: just want you to know, super producer, Brian, I'm holding
Speaker 1: space for you, and you can start the clock whenever
Speaker 1: you wish, Brian. Jack can't save you, he can't save you.
Speaker 1: You better start that clock. Start the clock. It's true.
Speaker 1: I'm terrified, Brian. I'm not gonna save you. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna stand up for any one. All right, Jack, we
Speaker 1: gotta keep this and let's see who's gonna go first,
Speaker 1: You or me? Rock paper scissor already go rock paper scissors, shooting,
Speaker 1: rock paper scissor. Shoot. Oh, I got you Chris Rock
Speaker 1: over here. Okay, all right, I'm gonna do it again
Speaker 1: with my first question. Here we go, Kelly. Is Jalen
Speaker 1: Rose's hairline too good to be true? No, it's true.
Speaker 1: He's from Michigan. Okay, we like to helines. We can't
Speaker 1: fathom it. It's just so hard to process great legs hair.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's all that fresh air. Oh you go
Speaker 1: to the Detroit, Canada border. Oh my gosh, it's just
Speaker 1: like looking at the Sea of tom Born, Midwest where
Speaker 1: it's at paper. I gotta tell you love, love, the whole,
Speaker 1: whole whole. Look, he's Jalen Rose has never looked on cool, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but trulier, and he has no reason to avoid baldness
Speaker 1: because he looks great bald the became famous. Can't have
Speaker 1: it always, is what we're saying. Kelly, he can't have it.
Speaker 1: It's infuriating. But but if anyone's earned it. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: true again. All right, let's keep it moving, Kelly. No
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, you have Twitter for making a
Speaker 1: pizza joke or something like that at him one day,
Speaker 1: so you know I shouldn't be on his side, but
Speaker 1: not come on, he'said a tremendous broadcaster and had a
Speaker 1: wonderful player. Yeah, and that hair. So I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm looking at like images from the James Webb telescope. Wait,
Speaker 1: does he have like some spicy pizza takes? Yeah? What happened?
Speaker 1: Were getting any techno signatures? Uh? No, I just thought
Speaker 1: I made it. I made a joke about his draft
Speaker 1: analysis that had him comparing different types of pizzas to
Speaker 1: one another, and uh, apparently it's too popular for his tastes.
Speaker 1: I thought he g rated and very funny. But you know,
Speaker 1: these people are under a lot of stress on draft. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: and Kelly. Look, and while I do love that personal anecdote,
Speaker 1: we really do have to keep things moving, which is
Speaker 1: why I'm gonna ask you this next question. Contender, verse
Speaker 1: is pretender? Are you ready? And this is for the
Speaker 1: title as currently constituted, And the title is the NBA title,
Speaker 1: the National Basketball Association Championships that's currently cost Here we go, Nuggets, Oh,
Speaker 1: absolute contender, Okay, the Allans Pelicans, pretender, Wow, I have
Speaker 1: to see. I respect their defensive intensity. You think that
Speaker 1: guys like Dison and Trey and or grow between now
Speaker 1: and then? As I can put any team over the top,
Speaker 1: and I need to see a little more playmaking from c. J. McCollough.
Speaker 1: It's totally trust Okay, okay, you know what shot making?
Speaker 1: Shot making? Yeah, that's why I trust Denver. You know
Speaker 1: that game when are the yok unfurled the other night?
Speaker 1: That's just king shot maker. That took longer than some
Speaker 1: baseball games. Uh. And also a wise man by the
Speaker 1: name of Alice Cooper taught me how to pronounce this.
Speaker 1: But the Bucks of Millie Wauke absolute concenter, absolute consenter,
Speaker 1: not because of the the What do the bass players
Speaker 1: say the three socialist mayors that they've elected. Uh, they're
Speaker 1: they're they're a champion at the bit because they feel
Speaker 1: like they were wronged by a wet spot in the
Speaker 1: United Center floor. And for this I cannot blame them.
Speaker 1: They are they are a frightening basketball team in all regards.
Speaker 1: And Brook Lopez is having an outsize defensive season that
Speaker 1: I wish we'll get more and more recognition. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: you have the chance to win ten thousand dollars by
Speaker 1: making a layup with each hand dollars to make five
Speaker 1: or five free throws, where one thousand dollars to make
Speaker 1: at least four or five from deep. You are shooting
Speaker 1: at the Spurs game that broke the record for attendance,
Speaker 1: and the crowd is not on your side. Um, they
Speaker 1: know you're not from Texas. Uh, they they are hostile.
Speaker 1: Which challenge are you taking? I'm gonna have to take
Speaker 1: the layouts. I'm sorry. I'm not a shooter. I'm not
Speaker 1: here to shoot. I'm here to set screens and defend
Speaker 1: and rebound. Okay, And it's not my fault that all
Speaker 1: my teammates left me on court here to make tend
Speaker 1: the brand. But that's what I want to do. Unless
Speaker 1: the Texans don't get angry. The worst they do is
Speaker 1: they call your boss and they're still really friendly to you.
Speaker 1: So I can't you know, I can't really imagine all
Speaker 1: those texts sixty two thousand or whatever it was. That
Speaker 1: ain't right. But no, come on, I'm great at the
Speaker 1: bobbla near left hand lap, so I can't you can't
Speaker 1: trust my stroke? Com Yeah, I'm gonna hit four or five.
Speaker 1: Oh and it is. It is one of those uh
Speaker 1: backyard basketball hoops where you can just like drill it
Speaker 1: against the just throw it as hard as you can
Speaker 1: and then dropped straight up top straight up, stop just
Speaker 1: straight away because it absorbs all the energy because all
Speaker 1: the screws are loosens, like my like how full it
Speaker 1: just dropped like yeah, you just gotta hit the square man.
Speaker 1: I gotta say, ZERK didn't want to see me on
Speaker 1: that basketball on my home court then then when because
Speaker 1: he would have broken broken the rim after the first
Speaker 1: dunk and then we would have been done. You like
Speaker 1: NBA jam, I love it, Okay, unless you're playing Charlotte,
Speaker 1: then I get really upset. It seems like me to me,
Speaker 1: they were a little overrated on that game, but you know,
Speaker 1: the high powered, high powered you you couldn't usually were
Speaker 1: like you can't have Zoe and LJ. But it's just
Speaker 1: like you gotta be your dues, you know how Just
Speaker 1: to me, they were just you know, too young, but
Speaker 1: that you know, I was an old thirteen year old. Okay,
Speaker 1: well then how about this? Who is your ultimate NBA
Speaker 1: J M duo? And don't say m j M Pitt
Speaker 1: Come on, it's it's it's the What was the RP
Speaker 1: that only had VJ and Horace? Was that a thing?
Speaker 1: I think I remember that? Yeah, yeah, I love that
Speaker 1: but that's just modern NBA right there. That's more freeze
Speaker 1: and stretch chords. So you know, if you're looking to
Speaker 1: slam a jam and get you know, on fire and
Speaker 1: the flag on all those nineties things, fine, But if
Speaker 1: you're looking to make some points for possession trying to
Speaker 1: look at your offensive efficiency through the riff, you're gonna
Speaker 1: go with Courts. You're gonna go with b J gonna
Speaker 1: through a sensible NBA jam game. That's my approach. You
Speaker 1: guys want to slam a jam, go ahead. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I do think it was a statistical advantage to get
Speaker 1: on fire personally, but I don't know you can put
Speaker 1: together an all time four man dunk contests. Let's get
Speaker 1: your list Thence Carter, Fence, Carter, Vince Carter, Okay, Freddie Jones,
Speaker 1: Desmond Mason. It would probably be Chris car and Deep
Speaker 1: maybe Mike Finley because I'd like to see those guys
Speaker 1: get another dump test chance because if you go him
Speaker 1: on YouTube, you know Mike Finley that the cart wheel.
Speaker 1: Chris Carr was way better than he than he performed.
Speaker 1: Fred Jones won it, but he was still better than that,
Speaker 1: and doesn't Mason's just fun to watch jump. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with those four unheralded times. Love that love
Speaker 1: the cart wheel. And here's my question for you. You
Speaker 1: can go back in time and watch any single NBA
Speaker 1: game from throughout history live in person. Which game are
Speaker 1: you choosing to be at? I would go Game two
Speaker 1: of the six Eastern Conference Finals, where up on the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bulls came back from any team point episode at
Speaker 1: halftime to overtake him. I feel like that is not
Speaker 1: to put any dispersions on Doc Rivers and Bob Neil's
Speaker 1: call for TVBS, which was which was wonderful, But you
Speaker 1: know that that seem to be like the front Tuesday
Speaker 1: Night from the burgeoning Chicago spring. So probably that one,
Speaker 1: the Wilt one is always enticing. But I don't want
Speaker 1: to see a lot of free throws. No one wants
Speaker 1: to see that. I mean, okay, Grady hit free things,
Speaker 1: get out of here. Yeah, I want to see Dennis
Speaker 1: Scott missing threes and never come back from that. All right.
Speaker 1: And finally, and I want to make it clear to everyone,
Speaker 1: I'm not weeping openly at this point. So anybody who
Speaker 1: said that I put pressure on the guests by weeping openly.
Speaker 1: I'm hiding the fact that I'm weeping. The question is
Speaker 1: Jack or Miles. It's gonna be Jack because of the tees,
Speaker 1: the way they blend into his cheekbones. It's just listening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cool run here. I'm on a freaking run here. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I don't know if the viewers can kind of wait,
Speaker 1: doesn't it to be consecutive? Stopped crying. It's actually gotten
Speaker 1: worse since we switched to Mike's five times. This is jewels.
Speaker 1: Tears are missing it up. He's biting his fists. This
Speaker 1: is okay. I don't know if they end every show
Speaker 1: like this, but it's quite spectable. But yeah, Jack, it's
Speaker 1: definitely Jack cool Man. All right, Kelly, Well, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for stopping by. Miles and jackot mad Man. Oh
Speaker 1: this is so pathetic. Look I'm fine, and that is
Speaker 1: courage water coming out my because I'm sick on you
Speaker 1: next time. Wow, you're doing those like arms stretches like
Speaker 1: he just came out of my side, Like right now,
Speaker 1: that's just the sun's shining. I didn't even notice the
Speaker 1: sun was shining today. Wow. Something California really is beautiful.
Speaker 1: You know, the swallows have returned from their winter. What
Speaker 1: all right, Kelly, thanks so much for real for joining us.
Speaker 1: Where can people find you and follow you and support
Speaker 1: you and all that good stuff. Just google Kelly Dwyer
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Speaker 1: and uh yeah, that's that's that's a boot get if
Speaker 1: you having me on that, this was this was a
Speaker 1: tremendous and I'm glad we've brought a ray of sunshine
Speaker 1: into ut into Jack's house. Not only that, I'm about
Speaker 1: to go to Lake Superior and dunk my head in.
Speaker 1: If you knew, you knew, that's that's the cure. That's
Speaker 1: what all rogaine is is Lake Superior water. Go to
Speaker 1: the great lad Yeah, cleanse yourselves in the water of
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Speaker 1: D B double O, S T I E s uh
Speaker 1: and our tweets of the week man Molly Morrison. As
Speaker 1: we're saying off the top rope, Yeah, the spurs an
Speaker 1: all time attendance record at the Alamo Dome. Molly tweeted, yeah,
Speaker 1: like quote, tweeted the video with all sixty eight thousand
Speaker 1: fans there and said, yeah, everybody showed up with the Spurs. Well,
Speaker 1: come on, that's not fair. And also it's a testament
Speaker 1: to what great fans the Spurs have that they're showing
Speaker 1: up in record numbers to see this team. You know,
Speaker 1: that's called dedication, dedication, that's love Spurs game on a
Speaker 1: Friday night down there. As a as a past attendee,
Speaker 1: I highly recommend it is such a convivial, fun atmosphere.
Speaker 1: Whether they're Tim Duncan and it up or in the
Speaker 1: middle of the pack, I highly recommended there. You go there.
Speaker 1: And we also asked some of our listeners for the
Speaker 1: best in game dunkers of all time, and people came
Speaker 1: back with at Nest egg Up tweeted number five, Kobe four,
Speaker 1: Vince three, Shawn Camp to Michael as in Jordan's and
Speaker 1: one Wilkins as in Dominique II. Key Hemp put number five,
Speaker 1: Mike Jout, number four, Bron three, The rain Man, Shawn Camp, two,
Speaker 1: Vince and then one Jamil Okay and then Dad Sham
Speaker 1: Dad we love that one. I love Dasham Dad, just
Speaker 1: as Sean Camp says, high, Yeah, we're gonna take that.
Speaker 1: Many people who were. I think it was pretty consistent
Speaker 1: with like Vince m j Nique Shawan Camp, kind of those.
Speaker 1: But thank you everybody who wrote in. We'll see you
Speaker 1: next time. Bye bye