Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season two seventy two,
Speaker 1: Episode three of dir Daily Guy production of I Heart Radio.
Speaker 1: This is a podcast where we take a deep dive
Speaker 1: into America's shared consciousness. Is Wednesday, January three m That is,
Speaker 1: It's Burns Supper Day. It's about Robert Burns, the famous
Speaker 1: Scottish poet. Get yours the lines are long there. You
Speaker 1: also National Irish Coffee Day. We were just talking about
Speaker 1: Irish pubs a second. It's also a National opposite Day,
Speaker 1: National Library shelfy Day, and National floor today. But what's
Speaker 1: a shelfy day? So you take a picture in the
Speaker 1: stacks or something catch hell yeah, some collectors of books arrangers.
Speaker 1: Oh so it's just taken. It says, look, if you're
Speaker 1: a bibliophile, flex up on your shelf and take a picture.
Speaker 1: Let people know you funk with books. Man, I really
Speaker 1: I love the Irish coffee. We were just talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, Irish pubs. We were talking about Andy cap
Speaker 1: happy official like mainstream culture appreciation of functional alcoholism. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, Irish coffee days. Great, yeah, functional according to
Speaker 1: who's always the question, Let's see, it's uh just yeah,
Speaker 1: get get yourself a strong cup of Irish coffee. They say, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's when you put whisky and coffee, right. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Liam Neeson style we called I think we just call
Speaker 1: it a Nissan now Anson. Yeah. Nice. Anyways, my name's
Speaker 1: Jack O'Brien, a K. Potatoes O'Brien, a K pretty Chez o'breedy,
Speaker 1: and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my
Speaker 1: co host, Mr Miles Graun. I'm wearing champions my friends
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Speaker 1: wearing campions. Thrank on the Bard. Alright, shout out to
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Speaker 1: confusion on the trending episode where I forgot my name
Speaker 1: and I had to look at my underwear and turns
Speaker 1: out my name's Champion name Miss Champion anyway, So thank
Speaker 1: you that. I love that. All of that great a kay,
Speaker 1: and we're thrilled to be joined once again by a
Speaker 1: writer who's one of the best podcast hosts EPs doing it.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm from stuff they don't want you to know.
Speaker 1: Ridiculous History. The new limited series let's start a coup.
Speaker 1: Please welcome Ben Bowling. Oh my gosh, back again. Uh,
Speaker 1: Happy New Year, guys. We haven't talked in a minute.
Speaker 1: I saw, I saw you had my colleagues Matt Frederick
Speaker 1: and Nold round over at the very end of two.
Speaker 1: How'd that go to be honest and not good? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a bit of a ship show. I think
Speaker 1: we were like, we we expected some level of professionalism
Speaker 1: based on Ben's appearances here, and man, I think I
Speaker 1: don't know what was going on. I think Nol was
Speaker 1: like I think he was like tuning a guitar. I
Speaker 1: think he got a concert to go to. He was
Speaker 1: just very distracted, very distracted, every busy. He's a busy guy. Also,
Speaker 1: I I gotta say, you know, to the Zeit gang
Speaker 1: at large, you guys know, I am a fan of
Speaker 1: this show in a way that has made some of
Speaker 1: our past interactions awkward. I want to shout, I want
Speaker 1: to shout out. I want to shout out Old. Matt
Speaker 1: Frederick's underrated. He said, you know, knowing how to do
Speaker 1: stuff in the dark without without you know, without without
Speaker 1: the visual element. And I asked him about it, and
Speaker 1: he was like, I don't know. I wonder if I
Speaker 1: weird Miles and Jack out fucking way has he heard
Speaker 1: this show the people we've had on before. Well, all
Speaker 1: to say, I stand on the shoulders of giants. I'm
Speaker 1: really happy to hear that is off to a good start.
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's got the new car smell still absolutely,
Speaker 1: which is actually a half drank Lacroix that you left
Speaker 1: in the in the cup holder overnight, my bad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and his underrated actually made a huge impact on me,
Speaker 1: which is why I've been doing the podcast ever since.
Speaker 1: Blindfolded just you know, heightened my senses. Just I feel
Speaker 1: like it adds something, Yeah, just a extra layer of
Speaker 1: complexity in the edit, because half the time he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm recording, but he has a blindfold on, and they're like, yho,
Speaker 1: just just put the blindfold on after you start recording.
Speaker 1: All podcasters are daredevil, That's right, Yeah, a d All
Speaker 1: podcasters are daredevil. A pad includes includes me. All right, Well, Ben,
Speaker 1: gonna get to know you a little bit better in
Speaker 1: a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple
Speaker 1: of things we're talking about today. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: doomsday clock now, ninety seconds from midnight, which means nothing.
Speaker 1: We're now approaching midnight. What does it mean? Well, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about what it. I mean. It doesn't mean like
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing. It means that a group of scientists think
Speaker 1: that it's advantageous for the purposes of messaging of the
Speaker 1: around the problems of nuclear proliferation in particular. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, it doesn't seem super scientific. So well, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about what it means. Check in. We know we're screwed, okay,
Speaker 1: finding for so many reasons. We're gonna talk about George Santos,
Speaker 1: who was on Hannah Montana was also uh assassinated, almost assassinated,
Speaker 1: but fought it off in like a really sick way
Speaker 1: with actually like a proprietary version of kung food that
Speaker 1: you guys actually don't know about. So yeah you might, yeah,
Speaker 1: uh Santos mcgawa Santos. Someone might look like he's just
Speaker 1: like stumbling around or whatever, but what he's doing is
Speaker 1: actually like what other Black Belts call like impossible and
Speaker 1: a miracle of he he learned from Steven Seagal, I
Speaker 1: believe was his sense a in terms of like their
Speaker 1: main thing is transparency and truthfulness. Except when it comes
Speaker 1: to your balding and then you you painted on thick
Speaker 1: and sweat it out in your movies. Oh my god. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Oscar Nams came out. We're gonna talk about snubs, baby,
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about what we're glad to see on
Speaker 1: There Are Are Are was snubbed in every category apart
Speaker 1: for best apart from Best Original Song. So that's the
Speaker 1: one I care about. The other headline you're gonna see
Speaker 1: a lot is that the Razzies are out, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna actually take a look at the Razzies because it
Speaker 1: is just it's shocking. Like you we were talking about
Speaker 1: how the Doomsday clock is not super rigorous. The Razzies
Speaker 1: is basically like a club you can join for you know,
Speaker 1: forty dollars and there's just nothing there. It's it's absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1: The voting is just anyone who wants to pay them
Speaker 1: forty dollars. Essentially, it's a it's a pyramid scheme. So
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that plenty more. But first, Ben Bowling,
Speaker 1: we do like to ask our guests, what is something
Speaker 1: from your search history? I got to, I got to.
Speaker 1: I'll just squeeze them in real quick one, Smedley Butler.
Speaker 1: Everybody looked that up. I know, it's a dumb sounding
Speaker 1: name and the guy names of yeah, you're having Smedley Butler,
Speaker 1: who was like secretly one of the most important historical figures,
Speaker 1: and we just like let that go. Well, he's got
Speaker 1: a shitty name. I mean, that's just the real in
Speaker 1: my opinion, Are you kidding? Sounds like yeah, exactly. Imagine like,
Speaker 1: so where should this story have got, Like it's the
Speaker 1: subject of your let's do a coup? Is that let's
Speaker 1: start let's let's start a cou So back in then
Speaker 1: is promoting what's that thing again? The well yeah, but
Speaker 1: the business plot, right, yes, sir, Yeah, Just so back
Speaker 1: in the nineteen thirties, there were a bunch of well
Speaker 1: life absolutely sucked for most people in the US, and
Speaker 1: there were a few people who were doing well and
Speaker 1: they ran a lot of banks and uh, a lot
Speaker 1: of munitions companies like Remington Arms and were it was
Speaker 1: a different times. It was a different time backers and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, weapons magnates were able to get much wealthier
Speaker 1: than the rest of them. Now, it may be difficult
Speaker 1: to picture here in tree, but there's this one guy
Speaker 1: it was just h he's a hard ass. Uh, he's
Speaker 1: a marine, he's an absolute pill. He's honestly a real
Speaker 1: piece of shit. But but he had some boundaries and
Speaker 1: these uh, this cabole of very wealthy people, titans of industry,
Speaker 1: come to this guy and they say, I don't know
Speaker 1: this Roosevelt thing. You know this this new deal, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very red to me. And uh, we want you
Speaker 1: to lead an army to put the nation on the
Speaker 1: right track. And this guy, uh, this guy essentially says, nah,
Speaker 1: I ain't get his bullshit. And uh there's a congressional
Speaker 1: hearing about it in the thirties and it's covered up,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's a wild ride. And oh, buddy, how
Speaker 1: history repeats. That's that's the search history, and history repeats
Speaker 1: if they if they bury the ship out of the story,
Speaker 1: and like, don't tell you that like the titans of industry,
Speaker 1: the same people who still run our country once tried
Speaker 1: to have like a fucking military coup like and like
Speaker 1: become a fascist nation, like be like jump on the
Speaker 1: Nazi bandwagon. Essentially around the same time that that was
Speaker 1: becoming a thing. Damn it, Jack, where were you? You
Speaker 1: should have written the press release for the show that
Speaker 1: was pretty now, but the show. I'm excited to listen
Speaker 1: to the show. I I devour everything I can about
Speaker 1: about the business plot, the other search history thing. Let's
Speaker 1: see if I can say it correctly and throw an
Speaker 1: throw podermic biblio Peggy books bound in human skin? Yeah sorry, wait,
Speaker 1: hey what? Yeah? You know, Miles, I'm telling you it's
Speaker 1: a whole thing, you collect. What the fun? You're describe
Speaker 1: a book bound in humans like a skin book? This
Speaker 1: is a specific term for it this language. Man leather. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: just so people are crafted in the finest man leather, leather.
Speaker 1: You would love to see it? What we hold on? Okay?
Speaker 1: Where what the funk? I just wanted to find out
Speaker 1: it was real. I was you guys know, when I'm
Speaker 1: not hanging out with the swells here on t d Z,
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm involved in all these kind of things.
Speaker 1: Yeah so so, I uh, I wanted to find out,
Speaker 1: for an unrelated thing, whether or not there were any
Speaker 1: books actually bound in humans flesh, and I uh, I
Speaker 1: found that this question is so common that there's a stupid,
Speaker 1: fancy phrase for it in this language. I've got I've
Speaker 1: got to imagine like this feels like the thing that
Speaker 1: the German language would have a single word for the
Speaker 1: English language going like having the two word phrase built out,
Speaker 1: creaking it up like that. You know why, Well I didn't.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. There's like one that said a book
Speaker 1: bound in the skin of the murderer William Burke on
Speaker 1: display Surgeons Home Museum in Edinburgh. What yeah, and the
Speaker 1: Scottish Museum. Yeah. Yeah, like a super fun at part easy.
Speaker 1: That is so fucking weird because like in this Wikipedia
Speaker 1: article they said, like there have been like an analysis
Speaker 1: of books that were believed to be bound in human skin.
Speaker 1: They said, of the thirty one out of fifty books,
Speaker 1: eighteen have been confirmed as human an animal leather, which
Speaker 1: is still gross, Yeah, would you do that? But also
Speaker 1: like to know that you could also if like someone
Speaker 1: was really like, yo, that's that skin, right, and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Like the leather still also kind of is the eye
Speaker 1: test to the point that they had to like go
Speaker 1: deeper to analyze it, which also freaks me the funk
Speaker 1: out great. I can letly imagine what kind of fucked
Speaker 1: up I should have saved that one for when I'm
Speaker 1: back in October or something. But yeah, weird stuff. So
Speaker 1: my search history is screwed up. It's the equivalent of
Speaker 1: a face tattoo. That's that's what that's that's what face
Speaker 1: tattoos are in again. Are they back? Yeah, they're back.
Speaker 1: It's a day to day thing. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: like the doomsday clock. You just gotta like kind of
Speaker 1: keep it, keep track of. I can't wait to talk
Speaker 1: about that. Was waiting to jump into that double double
Speaker 1: dutch style into the face tattoo game. Hold on this.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a story about this guy who who
Speaker 1: was like I guess gonna be like he had made
Speaker 1: a deathbed confession in prison and like wanted this book
Speaker 1: made and he said, I want my own skin to
Speaker 1: be presented to a man like that. He once tried
Speaker 1: to rob and admired for his bravery and the other
Speaker 1: to his doctor, and then when he died, they took
Speaker 1: his whole back off to make the book. Jesus, wow,
Speaker 1: that's so yeah. Sorry, I know I threw us for
Speaker 1: a loop. I know then. I know. The mind like
Speaker 1: fires off in weird ways as you're about to die.
Speaker 1: But like the the people who are listening to that
Speaker 1: and being like uh huh yeah, and then I actually
Speaker 1: go through flip them over fresh, take it to the tannery.
Speaker 1: All right, you heard, Yeah, that's the new face tattoo.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? What's what's something you think? Calendars?
Speaker 1: Calendars jack? Uh, It's one of the most ancient technologies
Speaker 1: of the human species. It's cartoonishly arbitrary. It's a loadable shit,
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, everybody just sort of goes along
Speaker 1: with it because we all have to be on the
Speaker 1: same page about how you know, there's a Tuesday and
Speaker 1: then there's a Wednesday, and that's today, and then there's
Speaker 1: a tomorrow, and we can all agree it's Thursday and
Speaker 1: take the longer view, and you realize that people in
Speaker 1: the past, who we're not stupid, there were no different
Speaker 1: from the average person today. They were working with the
Speaker 1: information they had, and they were oftentimes, uh motivated by
Speaker 1: ideology rather than mathematics. So now we have all this
Speaker 1: kind of weird bullshit. I gotta I gotta remember the
Speaker 1: leap day birthdays. I gotta I gotta somehow like explain
Speaker 1: to a kid that there are twelve things we call months,
Speaker 1: and you know you're gonna run into a lot of
Speaker 1: people in the wild, who are gonna ascribe a personality
Speaker 1: to you because your parents banged like nine months before that.
Speaker 1: That's nuts. It's nuts. Everybody accepts it. You guys know.
Speaker 1: I don't like to say things are overrated, but the calendars, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a big say. So what's the Yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a shark. If I was on Shark Tank,
Speaker 1: I'd say then I'm sorry, I'm out on this one. Oh,
Speaker 1: you're you're calendar gonna be Mark Cuban. I'm going to
Speaker 1: be Mark Cuban and entertainer. Bad idea, and go, well,
Speaker 1: hold on, not tell me what what's what's like The
Speaker 1: more math centric argument for account like is you're saying,
Speaker 1: because of like our you know, pagan and religious calendars
Speaker 1: that we've had to like mash up over the centuries,
Speaker 1: is there like, is there like a like a scientific
Speaker 1: calendar that people are like, to be honest, we should
Speaker 1: be doing we should be measuring time like this. It's
Speaker 1: just not convenient. That's the problem. Miles. Like, the the
Speaker 1: current calindrical system, right, the dominant one is the Gregorian calendar,
Speaker 1: and the older calendars are the older calendar is worth
Speaker 1: respecting are things like the lunar calendar, right, that's a
Speaker 1: measurable thing that people could see. Uh, the Julian calendar
Speaker 1: and the Gregorian calendar when they're all beefed up, they
Speaker 1: caused a lot of problems. You know. I think it
Speaker 1: wasn't until this seventeen hundreds or so that the monarchy
Speaker 1: of the United Kingdom was like, Okay, we gotta get
Speaker 1: with the new thing. So everybody, we're just gonna lose
Speaker 1: eleven days. We're just gonna collectively fucking skip that week,
Speaker 1: and everyone be cool. So you're you're not out on
Speaker 1: calendars in general, you're out on this calendar in particular.
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, do better. I just like,
Speaker 1: I like the anarchy of no calendars, no calendars, just
Speaker 1: vibes in a couple of days. You're like, what's a man,
Speaker 1: I'll see in three vibes? Okay? Yeah, Like they were
Speaker 1: more vague, they're like four score seven many moons. People
Speaker 1: were just freestyling. Yeah at some Goldilocks moment, yea, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean there is interesting stuff about Like it was
Speaker 1: really the advent of train travel that made it so
Speaker 1: that we had to all agree on what time it was,
Speaker 1: and before that it was just like people kind of
Speaker 1: showed up when they could, right at the second light
Speaker 1: of February and like that all sounds like very poetic,
Speaker 1: but then you realize they're just like trying to keep
Speaker 1: it intentionally vague, like like back then even then, they
Speaker 1: were like, what the fund does that mean? Bro? I'm
Speaker 1: on the way, Okay, I'll be there at some point.
Speaker 1: I'm in a fucking carriage being pulled by horses right now,
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's no night man, I'm like, what
Speaker 1: do you want me to ask the horse? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: also like that in this version, the person who's traveling
Speaker 1: instant communication. Oh, they're just sending like, uh, they're sending
Speaker 1: a cavalcade of messenger crows, you know, like and additionally,
Speaker 1: just the sickest with smoke signals in the world anyway.
Speaker 1: Calendars overrated Calendars all right, dude, it remains to be seen.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm back in on the idea of evaluating our
Speaker 1: current clindrical system. I think we need some calendar, ben.
Speaker 1: That's That's where I'm at. I'm willing to like, if
Speaker 1: there's another way to do it. I'm open. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying we should do it. But I want to hear that.
Speaker 1: I want to hear that out loud, described you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have the answers. That's why I don't like
Speaker 1: saying stuff is overrated, because I feel like I'm just
Speaker 1: bringing you guys problems, you know what I mean. Now
Speaker 1: we have to solve, Ben, I mean, you bring us
Speaker 1: the calendar ship, and now Miles and I have to
Speaker 1: come up with a new system for organizing days Japtember alright,
Speaker 1: Jack denvertober October. So we'll not do that one. Uh my,
Speaker 1: my my, may my, my, lie my a lie whatever.
Speaker 1: Look we got we have March to work with as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: right in with your you know, your alternatives to the
Speaker 1: clindrical system, Ben, what is something you think is underrated?
Speaker 1: Oh uh? Specificity of the English language see above the
Speaker 1: word clindrical. That comes pretty good. Actually, it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I like the specificity of it to the earlier statement
Speaker 1: about the German language just cramming a bunch of shipped
Speaker 1: together and saying, you know, that's that's just the thing.
Speaker 1: I think we wrote about this like back it cracked
Speaker 1: like just the wildest words that exist in foreign languages.
Speaker 1: And I think one of them. I think it was
Speaker 1: in German and it might have been in Russian, was
Speaker 1: like a child like giving birth while standing in an alleyway,
Speaker 1: like out of shame. There's a word for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a word for that, like just like the process
Speaker 1: of like it's not even laying down to give birth
Speaker 1: because you don't want anyone to notice. How come no
Speaker 1: one finistrates? How come falling out a window is defenestration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody always there for for when it happens. You know,
Speaker 1: I just think it's I think it's funny. I feel like,
Speaker 1: I guess, do not do not google German giving birth
Speaker 1: in an alley way by standing up? Yeah, that's not
Speaker 1: a way, you know. That's a good note. That's good.
Speaker 1: I keep my safe search on because I google some
Speaker 1: weird ships. Yeah. It's just between you and the n
Speaker 1: S A Jack, that's right. So they're like, we got
Speaker 1: he's completely off the end of the jfk assassination. We
Speaker 1: got them all looking up the German words and we
Speaker 1: just see in his brain they have their own doomsday
Speaker 1: clocks for how close I am to the truth about
Speaker 1: the jam second boy. Yeah, Oh, and there's a specific
Speaker 1: word for it. It's like, uh, Jack chronologic, Helen Direk
Speaker 1: is the demon. Yeah, thank yeah, yeah for sure. All right,
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break. But just to that point though,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry because Jack, you talk about a feature of
Speaker 1: the German language which I think does have this specificity,
Speaker 1: and I don't know, I feel like we don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of specificity in the English languag It's like
Speaker 1: we use a lot of words from other languages sometimes
Speaker 1: to like encapsulate something, but we don't have like these
Speaker 1: kind of like what we do. It's like mash up ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know, yeah, you know
Speaker 1: the English language I feel like is we have we
Speaker 1: have to use a lot of different words to get
Speaker 1: it a concept. A lot of the time, the English
Speaker 1: language is a bunch of people freestyle e for fucking
Speaker 1: thousands of years and just going with stuff, you know.
Speaker 1: Like so someone was like, like, imagine how weird it is.
Speaker 1: You know, you're learning English. Sometimes you're close to something,
Speaker 1: sometimes something's about to close that's fucking confusing, and no
Speaker 1: one's gonna fix it. We're all just sort of vibe
Speaker 1: and off that anyway. I love it. I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm still learning this language. That is one of the
Speaker 1: things that comes up constantly when you have a kid.
Speaker 1: The calendar less so in my experience, but the spelling
Speaker 1: and how completely fucking arbitrary it is, especially because like
Speaker 1: my kids are also learning Spanish, and so Spanish just
Speaker 1: follows rules, so it's just like, oh, yeah, that's how
Speaker 1: you spell that, and then English is yeah, it just
Speaker 1: seems before he excepted, like they seem to get distracted
Speaker 1: like halfway through words sometimes. Okay, it's a real level
Speaker 1: with you. English is a colonizer language where we steal
Speaker 1: a bunch of other words from other people. That's why
Speaker 1: the spellers all over the place, like shampoo is like
Speaker 1: like from the Indian, like an Anglo India, like a
Speaker 1: Hindi words from the Philippines. You know, like there's so
Speaker 1: many things where it's like what does that means? Like, look,
Speaker 1: we kinda once we got our boats up and round
Speaker 1: and we just started jacking other people's words and idea
Speaker 1: didn't didn't ever best people on it. I do wonder
Speaker 1: like do other languages, like is there some sort of
Speaker 1: like centralized body that is like that's fucking stupid. Like
Speaker 1: another colonizer France has a national body to just keep
Speaker 1: their ship buttoned up on language on the language front
Speaker 1: in true story, Well, I don't know if it's interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't speak French. I just walked around Paris, you know,
Speaker 1: doing like a white over bite, you know, like yeah,
Speaker 1: like I look like I say my os right, you know,
Speaker 1: right right right there, you go, all right, let's take
Speaker 1: a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back,
Speaker 1: and the doomsday clock is back. It's now ninety seconds
Speaker 1: from midnight, which is the closest that's ever been set
Speaker 1: to armageddon and its seventy six year history. I'm not
Speaker 1: like here to say and just ignore this ship out
Speaker 1: of this everyone, the people making these decisions are dumb
Speaker 1: first of all, like yeas, it doesn't sound great or
Speaker 1: horny for the Cold War, the I guess the we're
Speaker 1: ad And of this comes from repentant Manhattan Project scientists.
Speaker 1: Created by Manhattan Project scientists and set at seven minutes
Speaker 1: until doomsday. The extremely scientific reason for that was because
Speaker 1: the artist who designed it thought it looked good to
Speaker 1: my eye. Wow, got it started at two pm? Bro? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like good good A gaves the breathing room, you know.
Speaker 1: But I guess the thing that it causes the invention
Speaker 1: of a clock like this is obviously going to be
Speaker 1: not not a moment where they're like, we might need
Speaker 1: this eventually down the line, right, So they invented at
Speaker 1: a time when they thought this is a problem, and
Speaker 1: they were feeling bad for helping to invent a thing
Speaker 1: that like turns people into shadows, No, burns their shadows
Speaker 1: permanently into the ground, burns their shadows perfectly into the ground,
Speaker 1: and yeah, evaporates the rest of them. So there are
Speaker 1: their intentions are good, though it's it's not, as you said,
Speaker 1: kind of vigorous, but they're they're saying, look out right, yeah,
Speaker 1: look out for what we made there. And they also
Speaker 1: like in line with the clock oppose, like they dropped
Speaker 1: nuanced policies and like fixes, and it's just all ignored
Speaker 1: except for the USA Today little colorful chart in the
Speaker 1: corner that they did with the clock. It's like they
Speaker 1: they've summed up the entire problem of nuclear proliferation to
Speaker 1: a little US USA Today color pie chart. Everyone's just
Speaker 1: paying attention to that, because of course they are, because
Speaker 1: it was designed like it's perfectly shaped to just stick
Speaker 1: in the American brain. Yeah. Also, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: helping their k that like a wait, when you go
Speaker 1: to these articles and you click through on like the
Speaker 1: doomsday clock, you know, predictions and stuff like that takes
Speaker 1: you to a website that is also selling a book
Speaker 1: at the bottom that says the doomsday clock at seventy five.
Speaker 1: All right, it's like a full color like coffee table book.
Speaker 1: We're in TikTok category. Now, who has time to read? Well,
Speaker 1: it's broken down into nice little it's like what the
Speaker 1: page that I screen capped here does look like a
Speaker 1: Instagram timeline or you know, like it's got all the Okay, no,
Speaker 1: easily digestible. Okay, no, that makes sense. Yeah, easily way
Speaker 1: to digest how the proliferation of nuclear weapons and geopolitics? Yeah,
Speaker 1: keep it simple to end your world. Yeah yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's also not that accurate. Like so during the Cuban
Speaker 1: missile crisis the clock stood still at seven minutes to midnight,
Speaker 1: they were like, the ship's overrated. And it also just
Speaker 1: seems to be like so it also just only really
Speaker 1: focuses on the prospect of a Russia US nuclear war.
Speaker 1: So like the reason it is now closer than it's
Speaker 1: ever been is because of the conflict in Ukraine and
Speaker 1: ship that the West cares about. In other words, like no,
Speaker 1: there's no movement of the clock with all the nuclear
Speaker 1: debtonations off of like the Velor incident off you know
Speaker 1: Marshall Islands, which we talked about previously. That ship doesn't
Speaker 1: move the needle, right right, Yeah, I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: I think they were doing those tests after before they
Speaker 1: became repentants, to make them repentant. Man, No, no, what
Speaker 1: was the first clock? Then? What was the non doomsday
Speaker 1: clock when they were unrepentant? What was their fucking ya clock?
Speaker 1: I think high five in at the in the fucking
Speaker 1: lab or something obnoxious watches where both hands are like
Speaker 1: the minute hand and the out hand or high five
Speaker 1: in each other. Yeah, yeah, no, I I know about
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties. We're doing the Mickey Mouse watch that
Speaker 1: she was. Yeah, hey remember bobcat goldweit War one in
Speaker 1: Police Academy and then he ruined it in the pool
Speaker 1: and then he said he killed one of my favorite lines.
Speaker 1: That that's funny. I wonder like that was what my
Speaker 1: my favorite comedy for many years of my life. Police
Speaker 1: Academy one that's like the only good copaganda out there
Speaker 1: because they're so stupid, you're never like I want to
Speaker 1: be them tells the truth about how stupid police are,
Speaker 1: h but not about gay bars. Their depiction of gay
Speaker 1: bars seems to be slightly off. When they go to
Speaker 1: was it the Blue Oyster? I think they go through. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that song L A Bimbo plays, which is when they're
Speaker 1: just waiting for a straight guy to accidentally bumble through
Speaker 1: the door so they can force him to slow dance
Speaker 1: with them. You know it's funny. At my wedding, I
Speaker 1: danced with my mom to that song Bimbo because look,
Speaker 1: I'll give some people some insight to my wedding. My
Speaker 1: mom twisted her ankle when she like like a few
Speaker 1: days before the wedding, and she couldn't move, like your
Speaker 1: ship was busted. So we had to figure out a
Speaker 1: way to do like a dance that wasn't her standing
Speaker 1: and ship. So I'm stupid, So I did a whole
Speaker 1: thing where she was seated with a cane, and I
Speaker 1: danced around the cane but to that song L Bimbo,
Speaker 1: And then at the end, my mom tossed the cane
Speaker 1: and we did like some like medicine show. Ship. We're like,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh Ship, she got up on her
Speaker 1: feet and she did a dance move. It was a
Speaker 1: whole thing, but everything was set to the background of them.
Speaker 1: That's a moment though. That's amazing, just to show you
Speaker 1: how much in my fucking skull that's I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: the best joke song I've ever heard in my life.
Speaker 1: Police Academy might be coming back anyway, you know, it
Speaker 1: depends on the Doomsday Clock. Did the entire top or
Speaker 1: the entire act that you and your mom choreographed? Was
Speaker 1: it reliant on people knowing Police Academy? It's more just
Speaker 1: stood on the Yeah, they're like, what is this song?
Speaker 1: Because the whole thing was like I was like going
Speaker 1: around doing all this like joke fucking Bluth ship around
Speaker 1: my mom like sucking jazz hands and ship, so I
Speaker 1: needed choreography. Was amazing. Yeah, it was, it was. It
Speaker 1: was something else, but anyway, that's amazing. We digress. Yeah, anyways,
Speaker 1: like the Doomsday Clock is specifically about, you know, the
Speaker 1: possibility that Russia is going to news like when when
Speaker 1: nine eleven happened and the US was suddenly on a
Speaker 1: war path that was going to kill millions of people.
Speaker 1: The clock didn't seem to really you know where you
Speaker 1: where were you on that one? Dip shit, it seems
Speaker 1: you did clock that one. Oh, let's talk about George Santos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, Well, you know Representative in Congress Jorge Santos,
Speaker 1: Tony Devolder Stark or whatever his name is, who represents
Speaker 1: Narnia's fourth district, is adding even more ship to his
Speaker 1: lie pile. And we talked about the lies. Of course,
Speaker 1: we kept track. He lied about this school, he lied
Speaker 1: about where he worked his fucking job, that he's like
Speaker 1: he's wanted criminal apparently in Brazil. But he fucking somehow
Speaker 1: keeps getting better with the kinds of lies that like now,
Speaker 1: like only a nine year old would bother telling. So
Speaker 1: last week a lot of his spelling, like hold on, sorry,
Speaker 1: just real quick, are we certain, I don't know, have
Speaker 1: to make fun of people spelling? My spelling is not great?
Speaker 1: Are we certain though, that he is not a series
Speaker 1: of six year old in a trench coast? Because his
Speaker 1: spelling is on par with my kindergartener? Sho, we gotta
Speaker 1: check his Twitter, you guys, you might you might say
Speaker 1: it's confirmed he's the first collaborative Congress member. Is a
Speaker 1: group of kids that the lies and the spelling really
Speaker 1: are leading me in that direction, But go and thropa
Speaker 1: dermic pd man. Yeah, yeah, a bunch of kids wrapped
Speaker 1: in skin pretend to be no dark That the darkest,
Speaker 1: the darkest direction that a Silent the Lambs reboot could
Speaker 1: take is that it's three toddler, three young children trying
Speaker 1: to create a skin suit. But yeah, George Santos, just
Speaker 1: by the way, you gonna take credit for you guys
Speaker 1: film idea, just so they can buy movie tickets there.
Speaker 1: We gotta run for Congress first. He's gotta fake idea. Na, no, no,
Speaker 1: come on, what's going on with this guy? Though? This
Speaker 1: is still a thing, right, Like, I stop trying to
Speaker 1: keep us on track right now, Ben, we're doing a bit,
Speaker 1: you know, but for real, thank you professional podcaster here.
Speaker 1: But again, we pointed out, like a lot of people
Speaker 1: pointed out that, you know, the hypocrisy of this k
Speaker 1: legislator who is like voting against his own community, being
Speaker 1: like completely anti drag show. When we found out he
Speaker 1: himself performed and dragged multiple times, and he denied it
Speaker 1: at the time he said it was a one off.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna play this so you can understand kind
Speaker 1: of like what how he was handling it When people
Speaker 1: are like, hey, we saw those picks of you as
Speaker 1: Kitara in Brazil, like what's good? Like are you we
Speaker 1: thought you said drag was bad, but you're doing it.
Speaker 1: This is him trying to find a way to like
Speaker 1: shrug off the reporters to explain why he's just doing
Speaker 1: his things. Young and I had fun at a festival
Speaker 1: for having a life. I don't know if you heard
Speaker 1: the other Price said is your mother at the World
Speaker 1: Trade Center on nine eleven, because that was I think
Speaker 1: we talked about he said. I mean, I feel like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, every time I see reporters hounding someone
Speaker 1: like this, I immediately feel sorry for the person or
Speaker 1: like m like slightly drawn to their side. But obviously, uh,
Speaker 1: the details do not support that assessment. Bro, I've been
Speaker 1: to festivals as well. You know it's you could own
Speaker 1: that though nobody Yeah, that's only the only people. It's
Speaker 1: a problem for these This makes you fucking cool, which
Speaker 1: you knew at one point when you were bragging about it.
Speaker 1: But this is him basically being caught between rock and
Speaker 1: a fascist party, where he has got to be like, ah, well,
Speaker 1: there's no way I can be like, yeah, funk with drag.
Speaker 1: I already made my bed hopping in it with these
Speaker 1: fucking people, So what the fun I'm I supposed to do?
Speaker 1: Like that would be something if he was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the problem with drags? Like, but you just voted
Speaker 1: never minds or whatever. But when you look at his
Speaker 1: own Wikipedia page that he altered himself in eleven, it
Speaker 1: tells the exact opposite story. It says it shows that
Speaker 1: a user named Anthony de Volder, which is the name
Speaker 1: he uses uh Santos alias, was writing that quote that
Speaker 1: he quote started s t a r t t e
Speaker 1: d U his stage life at seventeen as nd gay
Speaker 1: nightclub drag queen, and with that one seven ral s
Speaker 1: e v r a L all caps gay quote, beauty
Speaker 1: against against the Yeah, it's it's a real, it's real.
Speaker 1: And you weren't going to crack on spelling, Jack, you
Speaker 1: said you're not like his spelling in particular just really
Speaker 1: reeks of being three six year olds trying to come
Speaker 1: off as an adult and like using quotes all weird
Speaker 1: and out of Weird All Caps nightclub drag Queen All Caps,
Speaker 1: Like it's almost a single quotation over stage. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I guess because that's like a specific but it's I
Speaker 1: don't look, he's lying and that's all he knows. But
Speaker 1: I do want to continue because the sort of revisionist
Speaker 1: history of him has not ended. There Again, people point
Speaker 1: out his bio, which is full of This is from Politico,
Speaker 1: which is full of spelling and grammatical errors, appears to
Speaker 1: contain fantastical descriptions of his supposed career in show business.
Speaker 1: It claims that he had a part in Disney's Hannah Montana,
Speaker 1: among other examples, I'm sorry what talent? I mean what
Speaker 1: you were and what you were in Meigos two. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm from Atlanta, so you're basically part of Meg's Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah we all are. We are you from
Speaker 1: North Atlanta too, because that's what watch wait till he
Speaker 1: comes out. He's like, yeah, man, straight out North Atlanta.
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm sorry what, I'm sorry? You were on
Speaker 1: T shirt too? You said, yeah, I was speech short
Speaker 1: on T shirt. People don't know that. But again, it
Speaker 1: doesn't even stop fucking there. This guy went on a
Speaker 1: Brazilian podcast like right in Like in the early December
Speaker 1: to claim that he was robbed on Fifth Avenue and
Speaker 1: also had an assassination attempt and made on his life.
Speaker 1: But he's like very casual in this interview, He's like, man,
Speaker 1: that was a good try to cat me. I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm moving. But wait fifth Avenue in the US, and yes,
Speaker 1: at the intersection of Fifth Avenue and fifty fifth Street.
Speaker 1: He says he was intercepted by two muggers on Fifth Street.
Speaker 1: The criminals took his watch, his briefcase and found time
Speaker 1: to demand that he hand over his shoes as well.
Speaker 1: And this is from this is This was an interview
Speaker 1: in Portuguese, but it's translated to him saying, quote at
Speaker 1: three in the afternoon. Uh yeah, this happened at three
Speaker 1: and in the afternoon. And before you ask, they weren't black,
Speaker 1: they were white. As a matter of fact. He decided
Speaker 1: to put that in there, so okay to kill and
Speaker 1: was like, now now imagine they're white, right, Like, how
Speaker 1: is this not okay? So previous to Santos, there was
Speaker 1: another guy who was a prominent public figure who is
Speaker 1: bad at lie and that's Jesse Smolette, right, and Jesse
Speaker 1: Smilette is like, yeah, he's accidentally doing too much improv.
Speaker 1: He's like yeah and yeah, yeah, and was just dropping
Speaker 1: Jesse's Smallett's like on the rend, like casually. That's like
Speaker 1: one of the lies that we've learned about today. He'll
Speaker 1: drop with Jesse Smolette. In the first quarter there it is,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's where he's. By the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, we don't even know where the funk we are.
Speaker 1: Suddenly we're in am Eagles video and he's Hannah Montana.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, this Hannah Montana. I love that.
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got to bring that song back because
Speaker 1: it is banger, man, it's a banger. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The other like in this there's this article written by
Speaker 1: one of it's in English. It's written in English by
Speaker 1: one of the people that was there for this Brazil
Speaker 1: At Portuguese interview, and they're like, dude, it's the most
Speaker 1: frustrating fun interview with this guy. He's like not to
Speaker 1: mention that he said. He claims he's like fucking robbed
Speaker 1: and like one of the busiest parts of Manhattan when
Speaker 1: Manhattan is one of the most surveiled places. There's they
Speaker 1: can't find a police report him. They can't Yeah, they
Speaker 1: can't find a police report. They can't find witnesses. He
Speaker 1: he says, like, I don't know, it's probably somewhere, you know,
Speaker 1: this kind of stuff. And he also in that same
Speaker 1: interview said that New York City has three hundred drag
Speaker 1: shows in schools per day. That's my favorite lie. Wait,
Speaker 1: like like right now, by the end of today, there
Speaker 1: all have been three hundred drag shows across New York
Speaker 1: City schools. Right, well, that's great. I mean it's probably
Speaker 1: great show, you know. Yeah, wow, that just three hundred
Speaker 1: a day, just dropping. Yeah, But he's he's just taking
Speaker 1: whatever he was using to lie before, where he was
Speaker 1: like again a child who was claiming to have been
Speaker 1: in Hannah, Montana and I would robbed the famous drag queen.
Speaker 1: And then now he's just using that same like lying
Speaker 1: abandoned and like back then it wasn't like a thing
Speaker 1: anybody was believing. But then you hook that intent up
Speaker 1: to the Republican Party and he just makes up the
Speaker 1: lies about the things that they want to believe, that
Speaker 1: cities are extremely dangerous and that they are just cramming,
Speaker 1: just fucking forced feeding fuak grass style our children with
Speaker 1: drag entertainment, and like the he starts lying about it
Speaker 1: and it's good enough to get you elected. You guys
Speaker 1: gotta interview him. You got you gotta have him one.
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine the amazing stories. I mean I could
Speaker 1: finess the funk out of him. You know what, set
Speaker 1: up a whole fake podcast so you can see there's
Speaker 1: like a feed with shows and we're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: this week we had so and so, so and so
Speaker 1: that are people like, oh, we interviewed Peal before he
Speaker 1: passed away, also Rue Paul, you know, like we got ever,
Speaker 1: we got everybody on here, then we'll get him on.
Speaker 1: I don't think I actually I don't think I can
Speaker 1: handle it. I would just be like, are you for real? Man?
Speaker 1: Like going on, what is going on? George? But yeah,
Speaker 1: apparently even these people who tried to interview or when
Speaker 1: they interviewed him in Brazil, he had no interest in
Speaker 1: engaging any of these like lies that he would say
Speaker 1: just breathlessly. And I think, to your point, Jack, that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of the kind of that's sort of the momentum.
Speaker 1: I think the Republican Party wants is to have everybody
Speaker 1: in lockstep, just be like a regurgitator of lies, no thought,
Speaker 1: just like cost don't even worry about like your own
Speaker 1: dignity at this point. Yeah, but anyway, so he's he's
Speaker 1: still there. Uh, there's there's a lot of calling him
Speaker 1: to resign, but as he said himself, he has no
Speaker 1: interest in that. So look, he may he might be
Speaker 1: on the new Outcast album by the end of the day.
Speaker 1: Damn it. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll
Speaker 1: be right back to talk oscars and we're back. And
Speaker 1: I did confirm during the break there is no confirmed
Speaker 1: new Outcast album, just rumors. So yeah, just was googling
Speaker 1: or about to google. I'm old, I don't. I can't
Speaker 1: tell the difference between when Miles was joking and not anymore.
Speaker 1: But let's talk Oscar. Like I said, I'm a great liar,
Speaker 1: like George Santos breathlessly will say things like out he
Speaker 1: has a new album. But he's a bad liar. That's
Speaker 1: the amazing thing is that he's a bad lie. Republicans
Speaker 1: come is why how the probably want you to exactly
Speaker 1: Let me tell you about the scourge of biracial people
Speaker 1: better with no except for me misfortunate by racial person.
Speaker 1: I wish I could change things that I could, y'all.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean luckily, I'm right. I'm right. So
Speaker 1: we're so we're saying Santos is probably not up for
Speaker 1: an oscar You know what we should We should just
Speaker 1: fucking ask him. I bet he's got a supporting role
Speaker 1: in something. Yeah, he's probably claim he was Jamie Lee
Speaker 1: Curtis actually and everything everywhere all at once. One of
Speaker 1: these performances at least was inspired by and he's like,
Speaker 1: you know, the hot dog thing, those sausage fingers, those
Speaker 1: long mass fingers, that was me. Yeah, I gave that
Speaker 1: to Daniel. Well, you never forget what Daniel was. But
Speaker 1: I told Daniel. But I think just generally, as we
Speaker 1: talked about before, like the direction that America wants to move,
Speaker 1: like the that like the mainstream American culture, Like you
Speaker 1: can tell a stupid lie in the direction of like
Speaker 1: right wing fascism and like right wing fascist talking points
Speaker 1: and it's going to work for you. You can throw
Speaker 1: a coup that tries to overthrow the government and they
Speaker 1: will bury that ship. If that had been a coup
Speaker 1: the business plot in the early thirties. If that had
Speaker 1: been a coup like to try and do a communist
Speaker 1: overthrow of the US government, that got as far as
Speaker 1: it did, the like we were, the heads of the
Speaker 1: plotters would still be on pikes like in every US city,
Speaker 1: and their family members like that, they would still there
Speaker 1: would be museums to that ship. Yeah, they're big country
Speaker 1: songs about it and ship. Yeah, alright, Oscar Nom's best Picture.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a fun category. We got we got
Speaker 1: some hits. We got Avatar, The Way of Water, Banshees
Speaker 1: of inn Sharing, All Quiet on the Western Front, the
Speaker 1: German film that came out on Netflix. Shout out to
Speaker 1: my middle school teacher who made where read that book. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a classic of middle school teachers. Shout
Speaker 1: out to spark notes on that one. You just gotta
Speaker 1: live in it for a second. Yeah, Elves, which I
Speaker 1: think is part of the Santa Claus universe. I think
Speaker 1: that's Alvis Elvis. Yeah, my brain, my brain is refusing
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that is in the best picture category. But
Speaker 1: all right, man, we're in the year of maximalism. It's
Speaker 1: on the list right there, next to Everything everywhere else
Speaker 1: at once, which deserves to be there, The Fableman's which
Speaker 1: I haven't seen, Tar Top Gun, Maverick Triangle Sadness, which
Speaker 1: I need to see still. That's like kind of the
Speaker 1: one on this list that I'm I'm like excited to see.
Speaker 1: And Women Talking, which is the title of a film
Speaker 1: that's not just some random thing Jackson, Yeah, dude, that
Speaker 1: you have you heard about that film? That one? I
Speaker 1: mean women Women Talking? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want
Speaker 1: to see that one too, for sure. That's Sarah Polly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly for Sarah Paulson. No, Sarah Polly, Sarah Polly yeah yeah, Okay. Anyways,
Speaker 1: there's some snubs. The best director category is all dudes, right,
Speaker 1: you couldn't even get Sarah Polly in there, like bothering
Speaker 1: to nominate Women Talking for Best Picture. But then you
Speaker 1: can't even be like, and you know it might be
Speaker 1: one of the best directors too, that made one of
Speaker 1: the best pictures. They were like women directing, that's too far,
Speaker 1: you know, Women Talking will allow its Yeah, with the
Speaker 1: Women King, which was pretty dope, kind of got shut out,
Speaker 1: like there's it didn't get nominated for Best Picture, didn't
Speaker 1: get nominated for Director Viola Davis was viewed as a
Speaker 1: front runner for a nomination for The Woman King and
Speaker 1: got snubbed, So that that one's pretty frustrating. Let me
Speaker 1: ask a question, though, because you guys are way more
Speaker 1: plugged into this sort of stuff than I am. Who
Speaker 1: the fund is Oscar? Like, I I know, there's the
Speaker 1: Academy Awards. It really look I think the old myth
Speaker 1: is that it resembled someone's uncle named Oscar, and that's
Speaker 1: how that that name got like put onto the statuette.
Speaker 1: I mean, I trust you, but this sounds like some
Speaker 1: Santos level stuff. Look at up. I believe you. I
Speaker 1: believe you, But I just like the Academy Awards. Can
Speaker 1: we say I knew we were going to talk about this.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of great film out there, but it
Speaker 1: feels kind of rigged. Dare I say, like, I'm not
Speaker 1: plugged in. They're not. I'm not in the Producers Guild
Speaker 1: of America or whatever. I'm not getting anybody checking in
Speaker 1: on what I think about a film's merit. But like,
Speaker 1: how can you? Hey? Hey, but they do ask us
Speaker 1: about the I Heart Podcast Awards? Now they do? They
Speaker 1: are we are involved in some award giving that's all internal. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're kind of big. But but the thing is like,
Speaker 1: is the Academy award process. Is it something that you
Speaker 1: guys would say, is is fair? Or is it something
Speaker 1: that's more like changing in the wind of opinion. I
Speaker 1: just don't know. I'm clueless on this, I think more
Speaker 1: than I think. The one consistent thing that I remember
Speaker 1: Jack saying early on was like, like, include movies that
Speaker 1: do well, like stop looking at it through this narrow
Speaker 1: lens of like cinema because now like this is like
Speaker 1: the first year that we're like, oh, look at these
Speaker 1: blockbusters that are fully like part of it. But I mean,
Speaker 1: on some level, all of these things are easy to
Speaker 1: influence because for the longest time, the criticism was levied
Speaker 1: against the Oscars that they're just copying the Golden Globes
Speaker 1: because the Golden Globes nominations would come out before the
Speaker 1: Oscars and it was informing how those nominations worked. And
Speaker 1: then like they were starting to be like, we're actually
Speaker 1: gonna announce our nominees before the Golden Globes like months out,
Speaker 1: and people like what just to prove you, like that's
Speaker 1: not going hand in hand. But I think on some
Speaker 1: level there's like a I guess there's like an internal
Speaker 1: momentum that it brings people to say, you know, like
Speaker 1: that like how they're voting. But I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a it's an industry that's like like
Speaker 1: rife with parties, fucking gift bags. Like you know, there's
Speaker 1: just ship like this all the time to you know,
Speaker 1: create goodwill for a film. Yeah, it's an industry award show.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like industry insiders rewarding one another. There's
Speaker 1: like a weird thing this year, like I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people are calling out this movie to Leslie,
Speaker 1: and like it got there was this big ground swell
Speaker 1: on social media of people supporting the lead actress in
Speaker 1: this movie to Leslie, and it was like Gwyneth Paltrow
Speaker 1: hosted a screening of the film and like it made
Speaker 1: twenty seven thousand dollars at the box office, so like
Speaker 1: nobody saw it, but like all these celebrities suddenly like
Speaker 1: we're on board and like pushing this. And I know
Speaker 1: some I know a good friend of mine who is
Speaker 1: invested in like best actress the best Actress race, like
Speaker 1: not not professionally, but just like cares about that stuff.
Speaker 1: Was like, yeah, she's actually like great like it. You know,
Speaker 1: it makes sense that she was nominated, but it does
Speaker 1: feel kind of suspicious like that. There's some skepticism that
Speaker 1: a bunch of celebrities all just decided to start supporting
Speaker 1: their friend and that it wasn't like some sort of
Speaker 1: pushed from an agency or you know, some you know,
Speaker 1: some agent or like behind the scenes machination because they
Speaker 1: want to cast this actress and something in the future,
Speaker 1: or like somebody is tied to her career in some
Speaker 1: way that makes it beneficial for that to happen. But
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I think there's always interesting stories behind
Speaker 1: the scenes that don't come out come out for years on.
Speaker 1: I will say I always say that they should be
Speaker 1: nominating movies from five years ago, and I do think
Speaker 1: that they completely left Nope out of any of the
Speaker 1: major categories. I think it's going to be what's going
Speaker 1: on with that Nope was amazing? Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those things where that's one of
Speaker 1: the movies we remember from this year and that people
Speaker 1: still talk about and like it's still all in custom
Speaker 1: like years from now, and you know it's but the
Speaker 1: oscars miss it because they always miss because all these
Speaker 1: people who are assigned to C. A A. Decided to
Speaker 1: sing the same from the same hymnal suddenly and be like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: you hear about this Andrea Rise bro oh she's the
Speaker 1: next thing. You're about this Tobias Bluth. Like it's like
Speaker 1: what the funk like arrest of developments just going around me, like, hey,
Speaker 1: you're about this guy? Yeah, it sounds a little bit
Speaker 1: like a conspiracy. I know, it's it's kind of on
Speaker 1: the nose for me to say stuff like that. I mean,
Speaker 1: but there's I mean, look at just even like the
Speaker 1: celebrity crypto thing. There's a dissorted web of connections with
Speaker 1: all that fucking n FT garbage that happened, and like
Speaker 1: you're like, man, it looks like the connective tissues seems
Speaker 1: to be Reese Witherspoon's husband, right, but you know whatever, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Are are? I think also
Speaker 1: the movie that people My my theory on that one
Speaker 1: is that they didn't nominate it because that they were
Speaker 1: they were jealous of how much of a movie it was.
Speaker 1: So they were just like no, we can't. I can't
Speaker 1: have people seeing that. But well we'll see five years
Speaker 1: from now. What what holds up? I do want to
Speaker 1: talk real quickly about the Razzies because that continues to
Speaker 1: be like a major headline like that. This year they
Speaker 1: nominated movies like Blonde, the Marilyn Monroe biopic, which also
Speaker 1: on a Day arm Miss got nominated in Best Actress
Speaker 1: category for that, also More Bious, which you know, was
Speaker 1: a bit that people liked to do. It was it
Speaker 1: was meme. It was fun meme for a little while.
Speaker 1: They also nominated a fucking twelve year old. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was fucking that's what what if that's not you know,
Speaker 1: like that's it's you're supposed to do it like adults. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like going after the fucking adults in their
Speaker 1: own I'm like, who is that for? Is it? It's
Speaker 1: just for that like Reddit forum where people like hey children,
Speaker 1: because you do ask like, well, what what was the
Speaker 1: institutional like intent behind ridiculing a twelve year olds performance?
Speaker 1: And first of all, they've been doing this for years,
Speaker 1: like they've they nominated Brookshields when she was thirteen, Macaulay
Speaker 1: Culkin like three times, Jake Lloyd from Star Wars The
Speaker 1: Phantom Menace. He was eight at the time and later
Speaker 1: later revealed that like bullying, that's traumatic, that's that's bullying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's not really another word for it. You know. The
Speaker 1: Razzies are complete garbage for a number of reasons. They
Speaker 1: published transphobic jokes. They repeatedly referred to Transformers Age of
Speaker 1: Extinction as trainees number four like that. So that was
Speaker 1: like recently, and they thought that was like funny and
Speaker 1: worth putting it, putting out there in a national like
Speaker 1: a story that they knew was going to get national attention.
Speaker 1: At least they do the thing the Academy won't do,
Speaker 1: which is nominate more black people. Yeah, the worst actor
Speaker 1: of the year. What then is that? Yeah, they've given
Speaker 1: at least fourteen Acting Razzies to black actors, where in
Speaker 1: the same time thirteen black actors have revealed received Oscars
Speaker 1: for their work and in the same time, so that's cool.
Speaker 1: They seem to really have it out for black actors,
Speaker 1: which is cool. I mean, it's like when you look
Speaker 1: at it all, like the hatred of like a boy
Speaker 1: who was Anakin Skywalker, like racism, you're like, oh, this
Speaker 1: really is it's like the Internet found a way to
Speaker 1: give awards. Basically, well, so that's exactly what it is.
Speaker 1: So you you sit back here like, all right, what
Speaker 1: is this like bizarro academy of racist creeps? And it
Speaker 1: turns out it's anybody like to vote on the Razzies.
Speaker 1: You just have to pay for an annual membership online
Speaker 1: which starts as low as forty dollars, and you can
Speaker 1: also pay five hundred dollars. And then I'll like try
Speaker 1: and rope in twenty five friends into like joining your
Speaker 1: voting membership. Yeah, yeah, and then they and then they
Speaker 1: find friends. Well I'm assuming you're paying for them at
Speaker 1: least on that first one, but then yeah, they become
Speaker 1: your downstream and their next the next year, they're like, hey, really,
Speaker 1: the Razzies are wondering if you're going to re up
Speaker 1: with me to be part of my Razzies team. We're
Speaker 1: actually having to get together in my place. A little
Speaker 1: later on, I thought of you because you hate kids
Speaker 1: and black people. This is perfect. It's like, where did
Speaker 1: they get their screeners, like someone server where they just screeners?
Speaker 1: There's it says specifically in the by laws there is
Speaker 1: no requirement to have seen the movie first. Yes, A
Speaker 1: Time to be Alive. Yes, we win. We wait, we win.
Speaker 1: There's the whole thing started out as a joke by
Speaker 1: one publicist and his friends during an oscar party, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, if you know any publicists wolf that
Speaker 1: that's exactly where where people the sort of hellish origin
Speaker 1: story I would expect from this. But then it got
Speaker 1: picked up by CNN and eventually spread around and for
Speaker 1: some reason, these publications still give this ship oxygen when
Speaker 1: it clearly just needs to be killed. But like, like,
Speaker 1: what's that? How much fucking revenue are they? Like? That's
Speaker 1: the thing, Like they're like, man, we got a cash
Speaker 1: cow fucking internet a Yeah exactly. I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: the perfect award for our time. It's so aggressively stupid
Speaker 1: and like just zero thought put into it. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that's about right. It's about right. I like how they
Speaker 1: the founder, Maureen Murphy said that, they're like, you know,
Speaker 1: we wouldn't have we wouldn't have not neated Shelley Duval
Speaker 1: if we know how hard she had it on the
Speaker 1: set of The Shining Shell. For her performance in The
Speaker 1: Shining like one of the great performances. Wow, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you're dumb as ship, but like you're like, if
Speaker 1: you you know the fact, the fact that they recognized
Speaker 1: her performance is better than the Academy Awards, I guess
Speaker 1: I guess you know her the absolute worst reasons. So wait,
Speaker 1: what we're saying then, is that we could you guys
Speaker 1: and our producers and me and all of us listening
Speaker 1: at home, we could fucking hack the Razzies right for money.
Speaker 1: Yeah jeez, that's the way they do it. I mean
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, go ahead, like you can try and
Speaker 1: change some ship. We're getting forty bucks every time. I
Speaker 1: think the most efficient one is to buy five one
Speaker 1: because that's twenty votes and the math works out better
Speaker 1: than buying memberships. So you would have to like do
Speaker 1: a go fund me or something and then just really
Speaker 1: drive towards so some voting that And now someone who
Speaker 1: is in the midst of all this chaotic, terrible stuff
Speaker 1: in the real world in is like I'm gonna slide
Speaker 1: my five there, you know, like it's very important to me.
Speaker 1: The starvation, climate change, famine aside. Yeah, let's fix this.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this. Oh wow, this art teacher with
Speaker 1: like new supplies for their classroom. That fuck that we're
Speaker 1: putting out theati on the board. Also, Babylon appeared nowhere
Speaker 1: on the Razzies, so I think they made a mistake.
Speaker 1: They know better than to touch Police Academy. I hope
Speaker 1: that's a great point. I bet. I wonder if any
Speaker 1: police academies were nominated for a Razzie. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's the sort of thing they would go after. No,
Speaker 1: because they would be jealous that somebody else like wrote
Speaker 1: those jokes, because like, those are the sorts of jokes
Speaker 1: that they seem to prefer. So interesting A part of
Speaker 1: me just things like, no, that's sacred material. Man, I'll
Speaker 1: talk ill about Police Academy. I mean, as you got
Speaker 1: big for their britches, gentlemen, Police Academy four called out,
Speaker 1: which is a shame because it's clearly the culmination of
Speaker 1: the franchise is that Miami Beach. Look, I'm not a
Speaker 1: doctor of Police Academy. That is oh that citizens on Patrol,
Speaker 1: Citizens on Patrol with the hot air balloon on the
Speaker 1: VHS cover. Yes, sir, I believe those cartoonish film covers.
Speaker 1: When when can we go back to that? I know
Speaker 1: the House Party reboot did it, and I was like
Speaker 1: I'd like to see that that style come back Police
Speaker 1: Academy five Assignment, Miami Beach, The rare two colon double
Speaker 1: Cullen movie title five Assignment in Miami Beach. We need
Speaker 1: the audience to know what they're getting into, guys, say
Speaker 1: the producers. Right, well, Ben as always pleasure having you
Speaker 1: on the daily zeitgeist. Where can people find you? Follow
Speaker 1: you all that good stuff? Yeah, you can find me
Speaker 1: in a burst of creativity calling myself at Ben Bullen
Speaker 1: b A W l I in on Instagram. You can
Speaker 1: find me harassing Miles and Jack on Twitter. You can
Speaker 1: also tune into shows like stuff they don't want you
Speaker 1: to know. I think I'm contractually required of hold up
Speaker 1: a book. We made a book, that's the thing. We
Speaker 1: made a book. And how many pages? How many pages?
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, alright, let's see it's four pages. But they're
Speaker 1: very nice pages, saying yeah, yeah, now you know Collectors Edition,
Speaker 1: human Skin. We don't know. But the the the other
Speaker 1: place you can hear me with my right die friends.
Speaker 1: You know, you can find Matt Frederick Noel Brown with
Speaker 1: me on stuff they want you to know. You can
Speaker 1: find us on Ridiculous History most importantly. And I don't
Speaker 1: know if I'm telling tales out of school this let's
Speaker 1: start a coup show. It's fucking crazy. It's like we
Speaker 1: made a scary thing, a dark comedy. If you like
Speaker 1: the film Death of Stalin, then you are gonna dig
Speaker 1: this ship. And so please check that out before I
Speaker 1: get fired for being involved with it. And and uh
Speaker 1: and and that's my bit. Yeah. And is there a
Speaker 1: tweet or some of the work of social media you've
Speaker 1: been enjoying. I I got, I got two real quick
Speaker 1: ones I loved. I found this one through our pal
Speaker 1: Robert Evans. Guy named Zane GT. Cooper hipped me to
Speaker 1: this thing that there are AI reproductions of historical figures
Speaker 1: that you can have a chat with, and uh, they
Speaker 1: are very not good. It's it's a damning observation of
Speaker 1: just the dangers ahead in the world of education. You
Speaker 1: can see a link I put where this guy talks
Speaker 1: with an AI representation of Henry Ford and asked him
Speaker 1: about anti semitism test by going from going Nazi on him,
Speaker 1: he uh, you know, deny right avoid and uh, it's
Speaker 1: just you can see other conversations like this with Ronald Reagan,
Speaker 1: for instance, a reproduction thereof reproductions of all these historical
Speaker 1: problematic figures. I don't think they can do Henry Kissinger
Speaker 1: yet because that guy is still alive, still here, still
Speaker 1: shipping the bed with us on Earth how anyway, So
Speaker 1: that's that's something that I think we should all keep
Speaker 1: an eye on other social media. I I really like
Speaker 1: this overweight, one armed monkey out of China. It's called
Speaker 1: Ching Ching, and it's just, uh, it lives with it
Speaker 1: lives with this elderly monk, and it's it's just some
Speaker 1: eye bleach, you know, it's it's weirdly wholesome. It's probably
Speaker 1: propaganda if we're being honest, because it is state approved.
Speaker 1: But you know, I feel like I'm going through it
Speaker 1: like those cooking videos I loved on YouTube. I was like, look,
Speaker 1: it's all whimsical and just stay propagaind I'm like, ah, man,
Speaker 1: well it's shot beautifully. Well did they shoot that on
Speaker 1: the red? That's right, dude. This exchange, I'm sorry, like
Speaker 1: with Henry Ford is so fucking weird, like asking a
Speaker 1: questions like oh no, Like I mean, those those comments
Speaker 1: that were in the Dearborn Independent were wrong and offensive
Speaker 1: and I deeply regret them. Then the person asked, but
Speaker 1: you were famously an anti semi. My reputation as an
Speaker 1: anti semi is based on a few isolated incidents. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I heard that they were. They had like an
Speaker 1: apologetic Hitler, because I guess the program I mean is like,
Speaker 1: well we can be you can't. You can't do Nazis,
Speaker 1: so like Hitler's apologetic. So yeah, if we had time, like,
Speaker 1: if we had time on this episode, my olterior motive
Speaker 1: was to try to convince you guys to do a
Speaker 1: staged reading of that conversation with fake Henry Ford because
Speaker 1: it's just, oh my god, it's Yeah, it is funny
Speaker 1: because it acts. It's basically if Henry Ford had a
Speaker 1: pr had a publicist who was alive in Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. How it reads. It's like, it's like, look,
Speaker 1: we're not trying to deny things. That's bad, but here's
Speaker 1: some other context around my terrible world view that might
Speaker 1: help while also saying it, but it's bad, it's bad.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Miles, where can people find you? What's a
Speaker 1: tweet you've been enjoying for work of Mediagram? Whatever? Ship?
Speaker 1: I I just saw the Doomsteay clock, We're ninety seconds out.
Speaker 1: I'm it for the big ride, baby, as I think
Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage says in face Off. But some tweets I
Speaker 1: like you find me again At Miles of Gray. We
Speaker 1: have at symbols. First one is from at at Dan
Speaker 1: White tweeted, met my girls parents are the first time.
Speaker 1: Last night couldn't have gone worse. Only goal was to
Speaker 1: make good first impression, and instead I accidentally walked in
Speaker 1: on her dad going to the bathroom eleven times in
Speaker 1: two hours. At Rachel Millman tweeted, when can we turn
Speaker 1: the tide on all the newer quote unquote museums? Uh
Speaker 1: just being selfie slash Instagram photo spots. It sucks so bad,
Speaker 1: which is so true. The things that we're calling museums
Speaker 1: now really don't work. And then at sim Simmas, who
Speaker 1: got the keys to Mabyama? Which I believe I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna finish that lyric from that handle, uh said. Learning
Speaker 1: that Peprika is just dried and crushed red bell peppers
Speaker 1: was really shocking, Like I don't know why I thought
Speaker 1: there was a peprika tree somewhere and what consider me
Speaker 1: shocked as uck? Oh cue. The more you know rainbow right.
Speaker 1: Uh no, no, we're gonna hit Yes, there ain't no
Speaker 1: paprika tree. But also the red pepper like that just
Speaker 1: really makes me like paprika much less red pepper, red
Speaker 1: bell peppers. Yeah, it's just funny too, because like when
Speaker 1: you look at like like in a Spanish like if
Speaker 1: you buy spices, like like a Spanish brand, like it's
Speaker 1: gonna have bell peppers on it and be like bimenton
Speaker 1: like right, but we're like paprika, oh smoked paprika alright?
Speaker 1: Uh tweet I've been enjoying toler t O. L. E
Speaker 1: R tweeted. It's just my most profound belief that if
Speaker 1: you hold in diarrhea will turn into normal ship after
Speaker 1: a couple of hours like a diamond. Yeah, just diamonds
Speaker 1: up and this guy is doing his cable, so I
Speaker 1: guess you know what I mean. Hey, you know, powerful,
Speaker 1: powerful muscle. You can find me on Twitter at Jack
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Speaker 1: where we post our episodes and our foot note we
Speaker 1: link off to the information that we talked about in
Speaker 1: today's episode, as well as a song that we think
Speaker 1: you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people
Speaker 1: might enjoy? This is a track that I'm fairly certain
Speaker 1: is by Asap Rocky, but I don't know why. On
Speaker 1: Spotify it's the artist is called Fragments of the Mind
Speaker 1: and the track is called BOMBA b A m B A.
Speaker 1: It's it's this is an ASAP Rocky song when from
Speaker 1: what I've seen on the internet, I think this is
Speaker 1: a leaked track, but like because someone's put it under
Speaker 1: a different name, like it's just been cooking on or
Speaker 1: on Spotify and like other streaming plays platforms. So check
Speaker 1: this out. It's also got a really dope sample from
Speaker 1: this like Senegalese artist. It's just a really dope track.
Speaker 1: Check this out. It's it's just like it's a single
Speaker 1: little poppy. Yeah, it's asap afrobeats poppy. Uh. It feels
Speaker 1: like it feels like maybe him, you know, being with
Speaker 1: Rihanna and then like maybe he did some mushrooms. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't have to talk about mixing
Speaker 1: the purple drink and the yellow stuff and then call
Speaker 1: it Pikachu. He sounds very sad. He sounds like he
Speaker 1: read those Rihanna dump Asap Rocky rumors and and wrote
Speaker 1: this that day before. Everyone's like, no, they're fine, they're fine,
Speaker 1: they're fine. Oh my god, because the things like clip
Speaker 1: my wings and like throw my ring away. No, you're
Speaker 1: right there all right for people to be vulnerable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's nice. It's just there's like but it's it's always
Speaker 1: funny when you see these rappers who start off one
Speaker 1: way and then they're like, yeah, you know what, like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fine being a little more vulnerable. Now let
Speaker 1: start singing, like go ahead, rock came all right, well
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