Against the Rules with Michael Lewis: The Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried

From Michael Lewis and Against The Rules comes a special series – Judging Sam: The Trial of Sam Bankman-Fried. Judging Sam will follow the daily courtroom drama as the former FTX CEO is tried for financial crimes, with expert commentary from author and Against the Rules host Michael Lewis, reporter and Against the Rules producer Lidia Jean Kott, finance journalist and What’s Your Problem host Jacob Goldstein, as well as legal experts and journalists who cover cryptocurrency and the law. iHeartMedia is the exclusive podcast partner of Pushkin Industries.

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Gesamtlänge aller Episoden: 1 day 20 hours 39 minutes

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episode 5: Judging Sam: Catching up with Michael Lewis

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Week 1 of Sam Bankman-Fried’s trial is in the books. The jury is seated, opening statements have been given, and witnesses are taking the stand. Lidia Jean has been in court, and Michael has been on book tour. In this episode they catch each other up. Michael wants to know what it’s like inside the courtroom, and Lidia Jean is curious about what new information Michael is learning.

This conversation was recorded on October 7...


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 October 9, 2023  21m
 
 

episode 6: Judging Sam: Caroline Ellison Takes The Stand

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Caroline Ellison, former co-CEO of Alameda Research and Sam Bankman-Fried’s ex-girlfriend, takes the stand and has a lot to say. Ellison recently pled guilty to financial fraud, and is cooperating with the prosecution. In this episode Lidia Jean Kott discusses what came up on Day 1 of Caroline’s testimony with Jacob Goldstein, financial reporter and author of the book Money. 

This conversation was recorded in the evening on October 10...


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 October 11, 2023  16m
 
 

episode 7: Judging Sam: Ellison Testimony Wraps Up

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Caroline Ellison, former co-CEO of Alameda Research and Sam Bankman-Fried’s ex-girlfriend, spent 3 days on the stand this week. Ellison recently pled guilty to financial fraud, and is cooperating with the prosecution.

In this episode Lidia Jean Kott discusses Caroline’s testimony with Jacob Goldstein, financial reporter and author of the book Money. 

This conversation was recorded in the evening on October 12...


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 October 13, 2023  18m
 
 

episode 8: Judging Sam: Week 2 Catch-up with Michael Lewis

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Week 2 of Sam Bankman-Fried’s trial is in the books. The prosecution has called witnesses, including star witness Caroline Ellison, and the defense has cross-examined. There have been dramatic, emotional moments, a secret recording and laughter in the overflow rooms. Lidia Jean has been in court, and Michael has been on book tour. In this episode they catch each other up. Michael is curious how the characters he got to know while reporting his book have come off in court...


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 October 16, 2023  25m
 
 

episode 9: Judging Sam: Nishad Singh Takes the Stand

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It was supposed to be a quiet Monday in court, but it turned out to be everything but. Nishad Singh, a former top executive at FTX, and a close personal friend of the Bankman-Fried family took the stand. Lidia Jean calls Michael Lewis from court during her lunch break to get his take on Singh, and updates us with the latest as the SBF trial enters its third week.

This conversation was recorded on the evening of October 16...


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 October 17, 2023  8m
 
 

episode 10: Judging Sam: Michael Lewis Talks Money with Matt Levine

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Today on the show, Michael talks with Matt Levine, business columnist at Bloomberg News and author of the newsletter “Money Stuff.” Matt knows more about how crypto markets work than just about anyone else. And also about how they don’t work. Like when there’s a more than eight billion dollar hole nobody seems to have been able to fill. Matt and Michael talk trial, SBF and FTX. 

This conversation was recorded at 2pm on October 17...


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 October 18, 2023  27m
 
 

episode 11: Judging Sam: Week 3 is in the books

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Another week come and gone, and like everything SBF, it wasn’t without a healthy dose of drama. Lidia Jean Kott catches Michael Lewis and Jacob Goldstein up on all that has gone down. 

This conversation was recorded on the evening of October 19.

Questions for Michael? Submit them by clicking the link in our show notes or visiting atrpodcast...


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 October 20, 2023  18m
 
 

episode 12: Judging Sam: An FTX Victim Speaks Out

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Voices of the victims of Sam Bankman-Fried’s alleged crimes have been few and far between during the prosecution’s presentation of its case. On today’s show, Lidia Jean Kott sits down with Jake Thacker, a tech worker from Portland, Oregon who borrowed money to bet big on FTX, only to be left holding the bag. He says he’s now bankrupt and unsure whether he’ll be able to keep his home. 

This conversation was recorded on October 23...


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 October 24, 2023  20m
 
 

episode 13: Judging Sam: After The Prosecution Rests

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After a few days off, the trial resumes tomorrow, October 26. The prosecution has said they will likely be ready to rest their case by midday. Michael Lewis, Lidia Jean Kott and Rebecca Mermelstein, a partner at the law firm O’Melveny & Myers, sit down to analyze the prosecution’s case and talk about what might happen next, including the possibility of Sam Bankman-Fried taking the stand.

This conversation was recorded on October 23...


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 October 25, 2023  28m
 
 

episode 14: Judging Sam: Michael Lewis comes to court

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Michael Lewis finishes his book tour and joins Lidia Jean Kott in court. His timing, as usual, is impeccable. The government rests its case. And then, everyone thinks Sam Bankman-Fried will take the stand. Instead, in a surprise twist, Judge Kaplan sends the jury home. LJ and Michael meet up on the courthouse steps to talk through the day’s events. 

This conversation was recorded on October 26...


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 October 27, 2023  17m