You Can't Say That!

Part 1: I envy Katori Hall. She gets to call a spade a spade without getting branded an angry black woman or as difficult which is what I always hear about myself from people who don’t know me at all. She is represented on Broadway with Tina the Musical, at The Signature Theater with The Hotwing Kings and on TV with Pussy Valley. She gets to create in every venue imaginable from Broadway to West End to TV/Film...

Part 2: I was invited to a salon at Staceyann’s house for Black women to share their disdain over Jeremy O’Harris’s SLAVE PLAY. I was afraid I might not get out alive so I invited her to talk about it on the show. She is a force of nature as a poet, Drama Desk Award Winner and star of Tony Nominated DEF JAM Poetry.

Part 1: I was invited to a salon at Staceyann’s house for Black women to share their disdain over Jeremy O’Harris’s SLAVE PLAY. I was afraid I might not get out alive so I invited her to talk about it on the show. She is a force of nature as a poet, Drama Desk Award Winner and star of Tony Nominated DEF JAM Poetry.

Part2: Who am I? What is needed? How can I serve? These are the questions serial entrepreneur Anne Hamburger has been asking from early days as a visual performance artist to originating site specific theater, to running a regional theater, to starting Disneys Global entertainment theme park division to her return to socially relevant theater with her company En Garde Arts.

Part1: Who am I? What is needed? How can I serve? These are the questions serial entrepreneur Anne Hamburger has been asking from early days as a visual performance artist to originating site specific theater, to running a regional theater, to starting Disneys Global entertainment theme park division to her return to socially relevant theater with her company En Garde Arts.

Part 2: Three time Tony Nominee and current star of Girl From the North Country, Marc Kudisch and I shared the broadway stage in George C Wolfe and Michael John LaChiusa’s Wild Party. Catch us reminiscing about the good , the bad and the ugly of theater, Gen Z’s and what it’s like to be Jewish but look like a Wasp Patriarch.

Part 1: Three time Tony Nominee and current star of Girl From the North Country, Marc Kudisch and I shared the broadway stage in George C Wolfe and Michael John LaChiusa’s Wild Party. Catch us reminiscing about the good , the bad and the ugly of theater, Gen Z’s and what it’s like to be Jewish but look like a Wasp Patriarch.

PART 2: The cool thing about being a colleague of McArthur Genius, Pulitzer Prize Finalist Taylor Mac is getting to bear witness to some of the behind the scenes intrigue of his Broadway playwriting debut GARY. Eavesdrop on a conversation with one of America’s most exciting, challenging and thrilling Activists.

PART 1: The cool thing about being a colleague of McArthur Genius, Pulitzer Prize Finalist Taylor Mac is getting to bear witness to some of the behind the scenes intrigue of his Broadway playwriting debut GARY. Eavesdrop on a conversation with one of America’s most exciting, challenging and thrilling Activists.

Part 2: Tonya welcomes Ron Russell, award-winning Director and renown educator to YOU CAN'T SAY THAT! Ron is co-founder of four theaters that still produce today. He is the Executive Director of Epic Theatre Ensemble.