14:37 Where I really started to discover people who, who identified as Christian but had maybe different beliefs than me was when I was gosh. I I don't want to admit to how old I am or how young I am, but I was serving I had just had Allison, my only child, my daughter. And she was 10 months old. And I was asked by Frank Ward to serve on the production team, which what did we call it before? We called it a design team for Presbyterian Youth Triennium.
1:20:06 You know, it just occurred to me that I probably need to make that list because it would be a good exercise for me, and maybe, maybe I should reach out to those people, you know, at some point and let them know how they've, inspired me and encouraged me and supported me. But, you know, my parents first. Right? Because they established a a foundation and a faith practice, for me that continues that has continued on. And then for me, you know, when I look to my high school years and then my young adult years in my twenties, Frank Ward, Cumberland Presbyterian minister, long time, director of CPYC.