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39:49 professors that are hired are beginning to mirror the anti

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20:07 There are ways in which different communities might talk in conspiratorial ways as a kind of protection from the state, from other entities that would do them harm. I mean, there's probably no more canonical example of that than the kinds of stories that black people were telling each other about what was going on with Tuskegee. And people having knowledge or feeling knowledge about something without a way to confirm it. And so what it really taught me and it taught a lot of other folks in that space is to, as a researcher, really try to dig in and figure out, well, what is the driver here? Is it that there is, you know, cultural historic reasons why someone might be making up, you know, stories about the government because, you know, x y and z had already happened.

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15:50 That that one's actually that one's really polarizing. It's and and and the thing about it is it's polarizing in so many ways that I that that have been that they don't feel like they fit in one particular aisle or the other in terms of politics, because you can find people on both sides that are just extremely you must support or you must not support this particular thing. It feels so much more black and white than a lot of our other sticky situations that we get into.

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44:17 the content gray, black and white, so that the reward

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12:35 the biggest black mark against the Jubutian government. There isn't