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39:35 Yes. Like, how and why is it that contemporary media and technology is something like this setting that can be found in tabletop role playing games? Let's start with Paolo.
36:41 Not the metaphor, which we will sort of get to in a moment, but just the sort of like base concept that exists in the world that appears in tabletop role playing games, what is a mega dungeon? Gabriele, let's start with you.
49:23 But the stories that develop around them are are infinite. People make an entire lore about the backrooms and how to noclip into them, inventing words and practices and and monsters that inhabit them and what they mean and where they come from. So it's it's this endless lore production that is very similar to role playing games, to what players and and and game masters do together, fabulating a medium. So, yes, it is hopeful because it proves that you can make that, exist.