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41:37 And performance art as a medium owes a lot to clowning and there's a large percentage of people who do performance art who have gone to clown college. This is, like, a known path to getting into cool performance art. As you go to clown college, you get your skills, and then you come do the weird stuff in the black boxes. So, clowning's everywhere.
31:56 And the thing is, like, it's cool when they do it. I I know that I am bad for not knowing how to do this, and that they are cool, but I decided very early this was not a skill I was gonna pick up. And similarly, editing, I'm so amazed when Steve Lacy puts together something on his iPhone that is great. I will never learn anywhere near that skill. I went to a celebration of the closing of the comparative literature department at Hamilton College a couple years ago and showed up with my reel book, my actual reel book because there was gonna be some jazz players there and I was gonna play with some folks and we had a good time and all the kids were aghast at my reel book, and they had never seen one in person, and they all had their iPads, and this was like a relic to them, and they enjoyed it.