14:56 Yeah, I don't know how that make me more famous than you, Kevin. has also been on SPI. So, we are now just if anything equally famous. I think the first time I met Pat was like one of the first podcast movements. It was I think it was probably like five years ago. And we did with Kevin, I actually built a recording studio. And we auctioned off like or not auction like raffled off time to interview, like all the top speakers at that podcast movement, and one was Pat. And I specifically remember the girl who won the interview with Pat was, like, petrified. And she was like, Oh my gosh, I can't believe how nervous I am. And I had no idea who he was. I was like, This guy said he was like an architect or something like two weeks ago. Like I didn't know what was going on. So I remember kind of being like, Oh, you don't want to be nervous. It's fine. You're just interviewing someone. And then five years later, he was like, hey, do you ever be on my show? And I'm like, Oh, no, I'm the one getting nervous. I think Kevin pointed out he was like, you know that, uh, the amount of people that listen to SPI that's more than like, the Jaguars stadium like completely full of fans like you're being interviewed on the 50 yard line. And I was like, oh, gosh, that's a Yeah. So you start imagining that then you definitely get a little bit of butterflies.
26:53 Yeah, Google podcasts manager. It's very similar. If you've used Spotify as if you've logged in and claimed your podcast on Spotify, very similar to that. They don't give all the data that Spotify does. Spotify gives some demographic data. And they differentiate between plays and streams things that the I think is listens in streams, listens and streams. I can never remember the terminology they use. So they differentiate their Google podcast doesn't seem to be as sophisticated yet the Google podcast manager, but it's awesome that it's something I mean, Google has, up to this point, been doing their own thing their own way. And this is like, kind of falling in line with what others have been doing, just kind of like unexpected of Google in a good way. The claiming process is super simple. I loved it. I did a really short video showing how you can claim your show there. It also sounds like it has the side benefit of Google has never given us a way to submit shows directly to Google podcasts before. We've had To put up a website that met some very technical specifications to set yourself up to be discovered by Google podcasts seems like they've kind of piggyback submission on top of this Google podcast manager feature. So if your podcast hasn't been picked up in Google podcasts yet, you can still drop the feed in. they'll recognize it possibly as a show. We haven't tested this, but it's been reported by James Cridland to pod news that he had a podcast that wasn't in Google podcasts. It was brand new, he dropped the feed and they recognize it as a new show and let him index it right there. So it's very cool. I don't I'm not overly impressed with the data yet. But I don't need to be because it's something that I didn't have before. Right. Like it's it's how can you be picky? Like you got something you didn't have before, but you're saying it's not good enough? Well, it's better than nothing. It's better than what we had two days ago. And so I don't want to like naysay it. I mean, it's pretty cool. I have if anybody is watching on the livestream, I'll show you. I've got the Buzzcast podcast loaded up in Google podcasts manager show. I'll show you that screen. It has Like number of plays across the top number of minutes played, again, not super exciting, the data seems to only go back to April 6. So it seems like that's when they started collecting this pool of data that they were going to make accessible to people who access Google podcast manager. So it starts at April 6, then it goes forward. So we see some plays, which is showing 65 plays for Buzzcast from April 6. One of the things I want to do is compare that to what Buzzsprout is reporting. So if I go over to Buzzcast, we don't.
We don't let you like lock in a date range when you're looking specifically for apps and devices. So the filters that we get for apps and devices are by episode, you can look at your last episode last five last 10 or all episodes. So I figured the closest thing to 30 days that we have is about the last five episodes. five episodes for Buzzcast actually spans two and a half months, not just a month, but I don't have you know, 30 days on here. But if I scroll down and look at Google podcasting where that shows up, we were showing 152 plays on Google podcasts over the past roughly two and a half months. They're showing 65 plays for the past 30 days. So I mean, those numbers are, you know, they're in the same ballpark. It's interesting. I like seeing the little bumps when we release episodes. You can see here, here's what you get from services like this that you don't get from your podcast host. And this is where the value is, when you log into Apple podcasts Connect when you log into Spotify podcaster dashboard. Now when you log into Google podcast manager, even if you don't get a lot of plays on Stitcher, but stitcher has a dashboard that you can log into as well. The most valuable thing is that you can see they know that we don't is how much of your episodes are being played. Because they're the app they know more than we do. We just know if somebody downloaded the file or not. They know how much of that file was actually played on the person's device. So that is that's why we love this stuff. When Apple came out with their podcast analytics when Spotify did theirs, now Google podcast is done. There's, these are the three biggest players in the podcasting space. And now for all three of them, you can log in and not just see how many downloads you're getting. But you can actually see how much of your episode is being listened to hugely valuable. And it's great that they're providing data that podcast hosts can't. So we're doing the best job that we can and providing all the helpful data that we can like total number of downloads, and where in the world people are listening from and the types of apps that they're using and stuff like that. But how much of your episode is being listened to is not a data point that we have access to? Until the apps provide API's that we can actually pull that data that they provide it to us, which I don't think Apple's ever going to do. I don't know that Google is ever going to do that. So it's really nice that they don't want to share that data with with partners, which I understand why they wouldn't because there's like it's a huge trust relationship. There's some liability there, right. And so they want to anonymize it. They want to control it. I totally get But make it available to the public. And now we have the third major podcast host or listening platform, making that data available to podcasters. Huge when, again, there's I have my critiques, but I'm not gonna say any of them. Because I'm so excited to be doing this. I think this is a fantastic tool for podcasters.
23:27 Like, don't just look at Fox. 04:26 I went to a boarding school, so I met people from all over the world. 05:13 Can you talk a little bit about things like friendships and the people that you've met while in Wilmington?
20:04 Even if a lockdown happens, I think it will be met with a lot of backlash. 00:56 So the last time we spoke, you had not met your boyfriend, your partner, in so many months. 17:20 She has opened up her relationship with you and she has brought back babies…So have you met any new people after you guys decided this?
04:55 I met him in a conference that I believe was the Boston writers conference. 13:37 But one positive I believe is that I met my agent during a conference that would normally take place in Boston and maybe I would end up querying him.
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