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episode 25: Indra Den Bakker - Overstory & Tackling Climate by Monitoring Vegetation with Satellite Data - MBM #25


Indra Den Bakker is the CEO & Co-Founder of Overstory, a company providing vegetation information to electric utility companies about the state of (mostly) trees around power lines by using high resolution satellite imagery. This can lead to prevention of wildfires by finding hazardous vegetation before it falls on a line.

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About Indra: 
- Twitter
- LinkedIn
- Overstory

Shownotes: 
- Kaggle
- Planet
- Global Forest Watch
- Vandersat’s Acquisition by Planet
Book recommendations;
-  Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis in One Generation by Paul Hawken
-  The Overstory by Richard Powers


Timestamps: 

00:00 - Teaser 
00:29 - Introduction 
02:18 - Conversation begins, Indra Describes Himself 
05:20 - Indra's description of Overstory 
08:44 - The Story of Overstory 
10:57 - From a Kaggle Competition to Founding a Company 
13:54 - Talking to Customers in Early Days 
16:58 - Find Product-Market Fit : Why utility companies?
19:37 - Finding a Sweet Spot in the Imagery Resolution - Price trade-off 
22:02 - Deciding to build a product, not focusing on imagery 
28:34 - Bringing in a dedicated designer in an early stage data start-up 
30:12 - Finding focus as a company 
33:44 - Could Earth Observations Companies ever have millions of customers? 
36:13 - Could Overstory get to more consumer facing applications? 
39:58 - Failures along the way 
42:14 - Moving from bootstrapped to taking investment 
44:31 - Staying on the Mission while raising money & losing control 
47:49 - Preventing Green-washing 
53:20 - What does Indra do today? 
55:42 - The transition from Data Scientist to CEO 
58:56 - Does a Data Scientist background help as a Leader? 
01:00:14 - Hiring 
01:04:12 - Deciding to become a Remote First Company 
01:07:20 - Building a start-up in a post-covid recession 
01:11:15 - A supermarket analogy to the Earth Observation industry 
01:15:57 - Is Indra worried of data providers eating into downstream company's business? 
01:18:20 - Balancing exits strategies with keeping on a Mission 
01:19:51 - Newly public space start-ups are going down in valuation 
01:23:45 - What is Overstory's current main challenge? 
01:25:44 - Dealing with number of employee growth: Not knowing what everyone does anymore 
01:34:00 - Book & Podcast recommendations
01:35:48 - Having the same company name as book

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 July 15, 2022  1h39m