Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career

Donna Lichaw is an internationally sought-after executive coach, keynote speaker, and best-selling author. She helps visionary founders, CEOs, and executive teams level up their leadership and scale their impact while staying true to their mission, purpose, and themselves. Donna works with leaders at companies like Google, Disney, Twitter, Microsoft, Mailchimp, and Adobe, as well as a plethora of mission-driven startups and nonprofits. In our conversation, we discuss:

• How our personal narratives influence our success and failure

• Why identifying your superpowers (and kryptonite) is so important, and how to do it

• The value of doubling down on your strengths rather than trying to fix weaknesses

• How to acknowledge and reframe feelings of impostor syndrome

• The Double Diamond framework for personal growth and goal-setting

• The power of visualization and how it can fuel motivation and creativity

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Where to find Donna Lichaw:

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dlichaw/

• Website: https://www.donnalichaw.com/

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Where to find Lenny:

• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Donna’s background

(04:25) Donna’s origin story and transition to coaching

(08:38) The power of storytelling in leadership

(11:36) Becoming the hero of your own story

(14:49) Changing your story

(21:19) Understanding and shifting others’ stories

(25:41) Imposter syndrome

(31:28) Exploring different types of kryptonite

(36:41) Identifying and leveraging strengths

(43:53) Identifying superpowers

(56:39) Running experiments

(01:01:52) Using product frameworks for personal growth

(01:12:41) Identifying subconscious goals

(01:15:27) Envisioning impact

(01:16:44) Lightning round

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Referenced:

• The Leader’s Journey: Transforming Your Leadership to Achieve the Extraordinary: https://www.amazon.com/Leaders-Journey-Transforming-Leadership-Extraordinary/dp/1959029134

• Effective Leadership Is Transformational, by Ken Blanchard: https://www.chieflearningofficer.com/2019/06/13/effective-leadership-is-transformational/

• Ken Blanchard’s website: https://www.blanchard.com/

• How to write a kickass README: https://dev.to/scottydocs/how-to-write-a-kickass-readme-5af9

• This Week #5: Overcoming impostor syndrome, introducing growth to an org, and how to partner with your Data Scientist: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/this-week-overcoming-impostor-syndrome

• Community Wisdom: Dealing with impostor syndrome as a PM: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/community-wisdom-dealing-with-impostor

• Stuart Smalley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Smalley

• Kryptonite: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kryptonite

• How Dyslexic Thinking Gives Entrepreneurs a Competitive Edge: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisoncoleman/2023/05/16/how-dyslexic-thinking-gives-entrepreneurs-a-competitive-edge/

• Characterizing Creative Thinking and Creative Achievements in Relation to Symptoms of Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder and Autism Spectrum Disorder: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9283685/

• Robert Iger: https://thewaltdisneycompany.com/leaders/robert-a-iger/

• CliftonStrengths test: https://www.gallup.com/cliftonstrengths/en/252137/home.aspx

• VIA Character Strengths: https://www.viacharacter.org/

• How to fire people with grace, work through fear, and nurture innovation | Matt Mochary (CEO coach): https://www.lennyspodcast.com/how-to-fire-people-with-grace-work-through-fear-and-nurture-innovation-matt-mochary-ceo-coach/

•10 Steve Jobs Quotes That’ll Stick With You Long After You Read Them: https://www.themuse.com/advice/10-steve-jobs-quotes-thatll-stick-with-you-long-after-you-read-them

• Gestalt coaching: https://gestaltcenterforcoaching.com/

• Gestalt therapy: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapy-types/gestalt-therapy

• Head, Heart and Hands: http://creatingminds.org/tools/head_heart_hands.htm

• Managing nerves, anxiety, and burnout | Jonny Miller (Nervous System Mastery): https://www.lennyspodcast.com/managing-nerves-anxiety-and-burnout-jonny-miller-nervous-system-mastery/

• The User’s Journey: Storymapping Products That People Love: https://www.amazon.com/Users-Journey-Storymapping-Products-People/dp/1933820314

• For All Mankind on AppleTV+: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/for-all-mankind/umc.cmc.6wsi780sz5tdbqcf11k76mkp7

• Ted Lasso on AppleTV+: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy

• The Art of Possibility: Transforming Professional and Personal Life: https://www.amazon.com/Art-Possibility-Transforming-Professional-Personal/dp/0142001104

• IMPRESA Monkey Noodle Stretchy String Fidget/Sensory Toys: https://www.amazon.com/IMPRESA-Glitter-Stretchy-Phthalate-Latex-Free/dp/B0868X6NRQ

• Dolly Parton quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/21268-find-out-who-you-are-and-do-it-on-purpose

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Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.