The Gray Area with Sean Illing

The Gray Area with Sean Illing takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty in the most important conversations of our time. New episodes drop every Monday.

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The chaplain who doesn't believe in God


As a non-believer, Devin Moss never thought he would become a chaplain or a spiritual adviser, much less one who counsels hospital patients with terminal illnesses and inmates on death row. Devin joins Sean to talk about his improbable journey, the death penalty, and the role of religion in an increasingly secular society.


Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

Guest: Devin Moss. His podcast is The Adventures of Memento Mori. 

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  • Producer: Jon Ehrens 
  • Engineer: Patrick Boyd

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 March 25, 2024  48m