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In recent years, Australia has faced a reckoning over the actions of some of our special forces soldiers, who have gone from decorated heroes to murderers accused of horrific war crimes against civilians.

David McBride is the former military lawyer who first gave journalists documentary evidence of civilian killings in Afghanistan.

To his supporters he’s a war crimes whistleblower, but detractors say that was never his motivation.

During a secretive national security trial, he pleaded guilty to handing over those files and this morning his sentencing hearing gets underway.

Today, David McBride, on why he did it, whether he has any regrets and how Australia keeps its secrets.

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Guest: David McBride