Drinking Coffee Rum called "Ampersand" at Old Harbor Distillery with Michael Skubic in San Diego California. Maybe wee tried a few other things, and threw in a little Drunken Cake Pops, no big deal, we like good times and good vibes. NOTICE: This episode was recorded in a big warehouse and is a bit distorted, we are learning and growing on this podcast and you get to watch the process happen.