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The Fare Fight Over Turnstile Jumpers


Nicole Gelinas, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and City Journal contributing editor and David Jones, president and CEO of the Community Service Society of New York (CSS) and an MTA board member, discuss the problem of subway fare evasion.

"Fare evasion on the buses is the fastest growing effort. It’s coming in from the back door and not the front door. The bus driver should not be the enforcer of who is paying," says David Jones, president and CEO of @CSSNYorg.

— Brian Lehrer Show (@BrianLehrer) January 3, 2019

Buses should have random fare inspectors with portable MetroCard scanners like in EU. Passengers should be able to board in the back too. NYC buses are slow because of this. Driver should just drive. #honorsystem@MTA#andybyford@NYCTSubway

— stefano giovannini (@stefpix) January 3, 2019

@BrianLehrer I jumped the turnstile only once in my 22 years in the city. My monthly pass that was purchased two days prior was not working. The ticket agent said it was damaged and nothing she could do. Late to work with no money on me I jumped the turnstile.

— julie_jo (@julie_jo) January 3, 2019

A note on this fare beating convo for @BrianLehrer@WNYC: The precarity of being poor or working class is not a choice. The question isn't how to keep people from fare jumping but why people need to evade the fare in the first place. That's the problem that needs to be solved.

— Simon Galperin (@thensim0nsaid) January 3, 2019


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