Anthony Dworkin steps in for Mark Leonard and speaks with Janka Oertel and Sebastian Mallaby about US-China trade talks, their relationship and Europe’s role. The podcast was recorded on 30 January 2019. Bookshelf: Troublemakers: Silicon Valley's Coming of Age by Leslie Berlin https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Troublemakers/Leslie-Berlin/9781451651508 The Code: Silicon Valley and the remaking of America by Margeret O’Mara https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/534709/the-code-by-margaret-omara/9780399562181/ Die Neuerfindung der Diktatur by Kai Strittmatter https://www.piper.de/buecher/die-neuerfindung-der-diktatur-isbn-978-3-492-05895-7 Algiers, Third World Capital: Freedom Fighters, Revolutionaries, Black Panthers by Elaine Mokhtefi https://www.versobooks.com/books/2736-algiers-third-world-capital Picture credit: 1444957 by Mohamed Hassan via Pxhere https://pxhere.com/en/photo/1444957, CC0 Public Domain